esports-discussion

[warm quartz]

NY bronze, is highest team in the league

[pearl stratus]

You lose to Dallas and Florida.

[warm quartz]

no

being a boston fan sucks

you had dreamkazper

and you lost to shd

[pearl stratus]

I mean Boston is doing better than anyone expected again.

Philly is just turning into a pile of shit.

[warm quartz]

Not wrong

[pearl stratus]

Who's going to be the next Zen? Fragi?

[upper niche]

Between the major dramas the league saw last year, basically Boston and Dallas had any and all that are worth remembering or talking about.

lol Fragi on Zen.

[pearl stratus]

Thats all they have left.

[severe dune]

envy

[pearl stratus]

If Boombox can't play cause he's sick he's their ONLY OTHER PLAYER.

[sharp kindle]

If only envy dropped the bomb on the payload rather than throw it

[minor flame]

EQO will prob go zen

or something

[vagrant niche]

Give him the freaking mic

[minor flame]

im not sure

[vagrant niche]

jesus

[lean badge]

LaV 's next game is against Runaway. There's high chance they start 0-4 in S2.

[minor flame]

LAV wont make it to playoffs

[forest wharf]

damn was expecting a bit of juice from envy about beating lav

[pearl stratus]

I love Chengdu.

In 7th.

-2 map score.

Never give up. Never surrender.

[lean badge]

The schedule of stage 1 is highly biased. How come 2 teams, dragons and fuel, play twice in just 5 weeks.

[warm quartz]

because of timings

Everyone WILL get the same amount of games

[pearl stratus]

Its how it times out. Shanghai also plays LAV twice in Stage 3.

[warm quartz]

It just sometimes takes a bit

waiiit

when is the first Texas Showdown

[whole mulch]

I feel like Fuel is the dominant texas team atm

[pearl stratus]

Lots of teams play each other twice, sometimes it just happens in the same stage.

[lean badge]

But there's a playoff after every stage.

[pearl stratus]

Thats really all it is.

[warm quartz]

I just want to see people be dumb and go "DONT MESS WITH TEXAS" yadda yadda

[upper niche]

oof, Toronto Defiant vs NYXL Saturday 12:30pm AEDT next week. That's gonna be one to watch.

[warm quartz]

Texas Showdown is overhyped but man is the crowd fun

ALSO VALIANT WORSE THAN SHD??

[whole mulch]

Who knows

[warm quartz]

as of right now they are

(In terms of raw wins/losses)

[pearl stratus]

I mean.

[upper niche]

Its worth noting that the order of the teams on the website is wrong.

[pearl stratus]

Out of 20 teams 19 of them only have 2 wins.

[warm quartz]

vs GLHF

[pearl stratus]

NYXL has 4.

So there's very little separating 2-20.

[warm quartz]

but nyxl is bronze according to that one guy

[upper niche]

Because it's incorrectly calculating the position of the teams based on how many matches they've played. Washington should be 19th, even though they've only played 2 matches, not 18th.

[pearl stratus]

I mean that guys a moron.

[warm quartz]

i know

im memeing

wait viol2t isnt banned

[lean badge]

No nyxl can't defeat my Bronze teammates.

[silk fjord]

i got the 100 token drop oof

[pearl stratus]

Yeah Viol2t can play today.

[upper niche]

Similarly Atlanta should be 3rd, not 4th, and Paris should be 4th, not 3rd, even though they have only played 2 matches.

[pearl stratus]

Chengdu got a RIP though.

YXL visa got denied again.

[upper niche]

The rules are pretty clear on how the placings should be determined, and the website doesn't match the rules.

[pearl stratus]

I blame a bunch of people, who should be murdered, who voted for a Cheetoh.

[upper niche]

Voted for a Cheetoh?

[warm quartz]

we know

[upper niche]

oh

[warm quartz]

americans suck

we know

Believe us, we know.

[upper niche]

If it makes you feel any better, less people voted for that cheetoh than 'that woman' ;p

[warm quartz]

Lets get out of politics with this final statement: that election was a shitshow no matter how you look at it

[upper niche]

man the american electoral system is broken heh.

I was trying to compare american politics as a shitshow to a OWL match... but I can't comet up with anything close heh

[warm quartz]

NA production 2.0

[upper niche]

The closest I can come to is Philly vs NYXL Stage 2 final, Map 3 point 2, Philly offence on Route 66 😄

That pinpoint moment where Fragi charged in, got killed, and the map just turned around and NYXL reverse swept it.

[warm quartz]

OH MY GOD

[feral igloo]

VIOLET 😮

[upper niche]

or was it Philly defence. I can't remember heh

[warm quartz]

THATS WHY TOYOTA SPONSORED THAT

GOING SOMEWHERE TO THE MAPS

HAHAHA I MSLOW

[feral igloo]

Ur lame

[warm quartz]

i know

im usually a little slow to the draw

[feral igloo]

I like it

[warm quartz]

im just really slow to this one

rip striker

"TAG ME WHEN LETTER NUMBER" is the best damn account

Nice timing with that lucio ult

post emp

[whole mulch]

:)

[warm quartz]

fuck you

[north basalt]

why can viol2t have numbers in his name but no one else?

[warm quartz]

They can

they just dont

See flow3r nyxl

[woven hill]

lost 50sr, went back and got 60 more

[warm quartz]

Strikers aim seems to be off today

[woven hill]

I NEVER GIVE UP

INTERNETHULK, GIVE ME STRENGTH

[warm quartz]

Sinattraa looks angry

[balmy wolf]

Can someone here explain to me why San Fran picked up Striker? I just can't see why with his hero pool they'd want him

[tardy fog]

Because the meta isn't forever

And as soon as hitscan is meta

[warm quartz]

^

[tardy fog]

Striker is top 3 hitscan in the world

[warm quartz]

Hitscans are mostly dead as of right now

[balmy wolf]

I know but they seem to have players to cover the area's he can cover

[tardy fog]

He's literally LInkzr widow + SBB Tracer

[warm quartz]

but in the future they most likely wont be

[tardy fog]

but better than both at those heroes

and he's together

[warm quartz]

With a hint of Pine in there

[forest wharf]

arguably

[warm quartz]

well when pine performs well

[forest wharf]

hes good, but idk about better than sbb and linkzr combined or whatever

[tardy fog]

He's the reason Boston had an undefeated stage

[balmy wolf]

I don't find him that impressive but I might just be blinded by his personal character. Idk I think San fran has a good amount of DPS already who can cover a lot of areas

[tardy fog]

Striker on fire is basically only matched by Profit tbh

[minor flame]

Striker and Mistakes

were the reasons Bsoton won

Sombra was so meta stage 3

[forest wharf]

ehhh, mistkaes definitely did more than striker that stage

[minor flame]

Mistakes widow was a meh though

[tardy fog]

Striker literally won teamfights by getting 3 picks alone

Mistakes didn't throw

but he definitely didn't carry like Striker did

People don't remember

[warm quartz]

WHAT THE FUCK SHOCK???

[tardy fog]

but Tracer was literally #1 DPS for a reason

[balmy wolf]

I mean does one good stage immediately mean "They're the best player in the world"

[minor flame]

they were the best on the stage

[tardy fog]

Boston finished like #3 in overall standings

Spoilers: A lot of that was Striker

Dude played out of his mind every stage

[warm quartz]

and boston lost to shd

so

[balmy wolf]

and i would call it a major exaggeration to call him the linkzr and the SBB and better at both, like severely, and where were they during everywhere else

[tardy fog]

Yeah because no Striker

:^)

[forest wharf]

sbb definitely rekt striker at tracer battles a bunch of times too

[tardy fog]

And Profit beat them both

[forest wharf]

not really lol

[tardy fog]

but Tracer duels aren't the only thing that determines tracer skill

Lolwat

London literally beat NYXL stage 1 playoffs

because Profit out-tracered SBB

[forest wharf]

yea, sure, that was the only reason

[tardy fog]

Please point me where I said only

pls

[warm quartz]

Oi

be civil

both of you

[tardy fog]

I will when people recognize the GREATNESS of Striker

[forest wharf]

London literally beat NYXL stage 1 playoffs
because Profit out-tracered SBB

[balmy wolf]

There isn't an objectively best but it's the top tiers fighting against eachother; It's like the Pacific and Atlantic Widow Duels

[forest wharf]

pretty much implies that lol

[tardy fog]

Not really

Anyways tracer duels are secondary to pick ability

Being able to get picks and get out clean is the most important Tracer skill

and Striker is a god at it

[forest wharf]

nyxl were underperforming before that game anyways

[balmy wolf]

Striker I'm a bit disillusioned by only cause of what came out about his character and how he was basically a brat during Boston's terrible treatment but still a brat

NYXL sandbagged too

Ark admitted it

[tardy fog]

NYXL only sandbagged during Stage 4

[forest wharf]

the meta fucked them before the finals

[tardy fog]

Stage 1 NYXL was just pure choke in the playoffs

[forest wharf]

oh youre talking about stage 1 playoffs

[tardy fog]

Dude is basically the closest to a carry Tracer there is tbh

I will never forget how many fights he won that he shouldn't have

[forest wharf]

dont really remember stage 1 playoffs tbh, but cant really take one game and say someone is better at tracer because of it

[tardy fog]

He's a better Tracer because of all 4 Stages lmao

I'd take Striker over SBB anyday

[forest wharf]

i mean, if you want to go overall just look at nyxl's record

[balmy wolf]

I'll never forget the news I heard about how he kept throwing scrims, destroyed personal property of boston org, and was just an overall brat. I understand Boston Uprising was a bad org and didn't treat people well but that reaction is actually not acceptable and seeing that, even with his skill, which I don't think is all that cause his widow game on busan wasn't impressing me, doesn't make me like or worship him like you do

[tardy fog]

NYXL's record is a team effort

SBB has the best support line in the league with jjonak, top 3 tank line, and fucking flex god Libero

[forest wharf]

youre just going in circles lol

[tardy fog]

Striker has none of those

[feral jacinth]

@balmy wolf who

[balmy wolf]

Striker

[tardy fog]

Boston is a trash org

Striker wanted out

[balmy wolf]

Yea but throwing Scrims and destorying boston's property and being an actual brat; Not cool and not acceptable or becoming of a PROFESSIONAL

[tardy fog]

What personal property? If it was the Huk situation that's definitely just hearsay

[balmy wolf]

From what I've heard it was mice, keyboards, and headsets

[feral jacinth]

I thought Sinatraa was who were talking abohf oof

Striker is on what team?

[balmy wolf]

Naw Sinatraa just cocky from what I hear

[tardy fog]

That was all literally hearsay from the Boston organization

[balmy wolf]

San Fran

[feral jacinth]

Why is sf

Full of toxic people

[warm quartz]

am i to point at dallas

[balmy wolf]

I don't think it was all heresay, like I imagine a lot of people are bad in the boston org, like Huk is a scum bag but I'm not giving Striker 100% a "not bad person"

[warm quartz]

who literally had toxicity personified

(xQc)

[feral jacinth]

I mean tru

[balmy wolf]

Dallas is so madly inconsistent right now

[feral jacinth]

But sf seems to be full of toxic people

[tardy fog]

Except you know, HuK is a complete scumbag, Neko AND Striker both left the org on bad terms

[feral jacinth]

Striker

[balmy wolf]

they're pendulum swinging

[feral jacinth]

Sinatraa

[tardy fog]

Striker gets the benefit of the doubt, Boston doesn't.

[inland pawn]

why is dallas full of mentally weak people 😃

[tardy fog]

Gamsu too kinda

So it's frankly a pattern until proven otherwise

[feral jacinth]

Spawn camping was

Dumb

[warm quartz]

they burned like

2mins

[balmy wolf]

^

Pros do it all the time

[feral jacinth]

Oh oof

[balmy wolf]

literally leave one person on cart

and just let it move

[pearl stratus]

@feral jacinth Also you'll notice they gety another fight on the cart

If they'd lost mid-street they would have capped

[warm quartz]

@balmy wolf Defense was spawncamping offense

not that

[pearl stratus]

By playing very far up they can do multiple fights

[tardy fog]

Really wondering what Gamsu really thinks about being traded with almost 0 notice

Poor dude

[balmy wolf]

mb I'm whatever

[tardy fog]

but hey at least he fucked his old team Fissure style :^)

[balmy wolf]

Probably was pissed

[feral jacinth]

Super doing very good with the shatters

[tardy fog]

This might be the one match I'm actually correct on besides NYXL

Shock looking good

[balmy wolf]

Shock looking good once they swapped to Sinatraa

Zarya is too prevalent this meta I swear

[tardy fog]

Can Dva defense matrix while she's grav'd?

No, right?

[balmy wolf]

I don't know, probably can actually.

Given other cool downs work

[inland pawn]

?????????

[warm quartz]

wow

ok

[balmy wolf]

SF overextended lel

[tardy fog]

The tanks were stuck behind the team

Real awkward there

[rugged yacht]

milliseconds

[woven hill]

How many tokens does everyone have?

[warm quartz]

general or today

[tardy fog]

Haksal made a 300 IQ brig stun there

[warm quartz]

today: 9 i think, total 28 (With 1 100)

[tardy fog]

but no one followed up

[woven hill]

just in general

[tardy fog]

That's some bad teamwork

[balmy wolf]

I got a lot, I'm mainly trying to get 3 skins and then I'm pretty good

Paris Eternal got dope colors

[warm quartz]

Toronto has the most cancerous colors but is a promising team

[tardy fog]

How the hell

Are Shock winning this

[tight zephyr]

Toronto stinks

[inland pawn]

[tardy fog]

What the fuck, shock lost two supports

[warm quartz]

oh great hes back!

[tardy fog]

and still clutch the teamfight

[inland pawn]

spark has the best colours

[tardy fog]

where's the targeting

[inland pawn]

dont @ me

[rugged yacht]

shock is getting it

[warm quartz]

i cant even @ you

[balmy wolf]

I personally want to see vancouver suck and eat butt only cause bumper got cocky by saying they'll 4-0 after fighting a not fully integrated shanghai dragons

[tardy fog]

Atlanta's away colors are the best

[warm quartz]

thats not wrong

[woven hill]

Should i get Shanghai Mei or Pink Mei

[balmy wolf]

pink mei

[inland pawn]

P i n k

[tight zephyr]

Neither

[balmy wolf]

always pink mei

[warm quartz]

yeah pink

Pink mei's away looks better than shds

[woven hill]

But they won

[rugged yacht]

toranto's skins are fire tho

[woven hill]

i gotta celebrate

[warm quartz]

Pink mei is still better

[tight zephyr]

Pink rhymes with stink

[warm quartz]

I have I think 3 shd skins

[tardy fog]

"This map is very likely lost"

Titans winning this now

thanks for the jinx

[warm quartz]

honestly id have to check

[woven hill]

But i wanna give Geguri money

she's kinda cute

[warm quartz]

ihavetheshddvaskin

i bought it during s1

LOL

[tardy fog]

When you're known for Zarya

but you're hardstuck D.va

Geguri/Spree life

[warm quartz]

NYXL moira, NYXL mercy, shd dva

forgot the one i got w/ my 100 tokens

[tardy fog]

Architect on Ana
monkaS

[warm quartz]

may have been pink reaper

[tight zephyr]

You should ask for a refund

[warm quartz]

NO WAIT I GOT SHD ASHE

CAUSE SHD ASHE LOOKS BOSS

[woven hill]

I'm never getting a Titan skin

[tight zephyr]

NY bronze skins are awful

[woven hill]

looks horrible

[warm quartz]

Ogba, can you please stop harassing me? thanks

Like you've been trying all day.

It's just getting annoying for everyone.

[tardy fog]

He ain't wrong though

NYXL skins are kinda meh

[tight zephyr]

Dont cry

[rugged yacht]

the choke is real

[warm quartz]

No, but he's been shitposting and being an ass all day

[tardy fog]

I think Titans have the best blue skins now tbh

[warm quartz]

I personally dont like the Titans skins

[tight zephyr]

You are harassing me

[warm quartz]

Ive never liked that green and blue combo

sure kid

sure

Anyways

[tight zephyr]

Anyways

[inland pawn]

HOLY

[warm quartz]

The Titans color just havent been my favorite

[gilded peak]

EFFING TITANS!

[tardy fog]

I TOLD YOU

JINX

[warm quartz]

WHAT

LOOOOOL

[rugged yacht]

jesus

[gilded peak]

The slowmo bomb XD

[tight zephyr]

Whhaaaat

[warm quartz]

TITANS FTW

[tardy fog]

DON'T EVER SAY "MAP IS LOST" UNTIL ITS OVER FOLKS

[inland pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dva-overwatch-tracer-widow-maker-gif-5709928

[balmy wolf]

ugh

[tardy fog]

GOD DAMN WOLF MAKING SHOCK LOSE

[minor flame]

JJANU

IS SUCH A FUCKING

CARRY

[worn hornet]

TIL the LAN client shows a PotG at the end

[warm quartz]

Lol the casters are LOSING IT

[gilded peak]

Bumper got that shatter way too damn fast

that was insane

[minor flame]

OAWGHAWOGHWHGHHGHH MY GOD

[tight zephyr]

[tardy fog]

Wolf should legit pay the shock a fine for that jinx

[gaunt acorn]

jjanu and 4k bombs

name a more iconic duo

[warm quartz]

Lol dommie

[minor flame]

jjanu and clutching games

[warm quartz]

@gaunt acorn jjonak and headshots

[gaunt acorn]

[tardy fog]

It was the shatter that did the real carry though

[gaunt acorn]

back-to-back days

[gilded peak]

Yep

2 shatters in under 15 sec

[gaunt acorn]

still it's uncanny

[tardy fog]

Bomb was whatever

[warm quartz]

no jjonak and causing zenyatta nerfs

[tardy fog]

but the shatter Pog

[tight zephyr]

Rein for the win

[balmy wolf]

Jjanu and Stitch are the carries of that team I swear

[tight zephyr]

Not fake dva

[gaunt acorn]

it's not that the 4k bombs are mechanically incredible

it's that they're hype

[warm quartz]

We all know JJonak was like personally responsible for the Zen alt fire nerf.

[tight zephyr]

Nah

He wasnt

[gilded peak]

I think so, he abused the hell out of it

[warm quartz]

^

[tardy fog]

It was an issue in ladder too

[warm quartz]

He got others to start abusing it

[tardy fog]

It was an inevitable nerf

[warm quartz]

@tardy fog It was put on BLAST due to JJonak

[tight zephyr]

Nah

[warm quartz]

Like a lot of ladder knew about it but it was on blast due to his ass in OWL

[tardy fog]

People in KR ladder were using it before Jjonak really popped of

That's where he learned it from

[tight zephyr]

Dommie is right

[tardy fog]

Alarm used to stream a ton back then

[warm quartz]

Once NA saw it, and everyone imitated it thats when Blizz smartened up lol

[tardy fog]

and he's arguably the bigger pioneer at the time

I'm like 80% sure Alarm was abusing it on KR ladder before the rise of JJonak

(Don't quote me tho)

[warm quartz]

Not wrong 100%, but I still feel JJonak put that shit on full blast globally

i personally had NO IDEA how abusable that was

[tight zephyr]

Dommi is right

[warm quartz]

Until I saw JJonak basically 1v4ing with it

[tight zephyr]

Stop arguing your point. Its wrong

[warm quartz]

Don't be rude.

[quasi pelican]

WACK

[tight zephyr]

Except you are wrong kid

It happens

[tardy fog]

Yeah people talking about the JJanu carry

but that 4K bomb was all bumper's crazy shatter

GIVE MY MAN SOME RESPECT

[tight zephyr]

Rein for the win

[warm quartz]

Yeah thats pretty good

[gilded peak]

2 best team of the league?

[tardy fog]

NYXL don't exist

[gilded peak]

But Shock already has a loss

[warm quartz]

NYXL, 100%

They're currently leading.

[tight zephyr]

Nyxl is junk

[gilded peak]

What's NYXL? 4-0?

[balmy wolf]

yea

[warm quartz]

Yep!

[tight zephyr]

They fold like a lawn chair

[warm quartz]

New York ExcelsiorNew York Excelsior ATL 4 0 4 12-4-1 +8

copy and pasted from website

3:1 win/loss

Not bad considering

[tight zephyr]

How'd last season go?

[feral jacinth]

When did jjnonak abuse the alt fire

[tight zephyr]

Choked

[feral jacinth]

I wanna see a vod if it lmao

[warm quartz]

I

[feral jacinth]

*of

[warm quartz]

You can PROBABLY look up a JJonak like

compilation

and find it

[feral jacinth]

Ok bet ill do that

[drowsy basin]

how did it work again?

[warm quartz]

The original alt fire?

[drowsy basin]

wasn't it when you put discord on before the alt fire shots hit right?

[warm quartz]

no it just charged faster i think

I'd have to double check

[drowsy basin]

i'm pretty sure they nerfed the fire rate of it by 20%

[warm quartz]

Im digging give me one moment and ill @ you

[drowsy basin]

so when you fire the volley it takes 20% longer to get all of the orbs out

[warm quartz]

yeah that

Lower fire rate on his right click (15%).

Bloggerman5831 posts
Mar '18

Zenyatta

Orb of Destruction

    Secondary fire rate of fire reduced by 15%

Developer Comments: Zenyatta is meant to be able to deal a lot of damage, especially for a support, but his alternate fire burst damage was a bit too high. This change keeps the overall damage the same but lowers the DPS slightly and makes it harder to hit multiple shots at very long ranges.

word for word @drowsy basin

This was straight up JJonak in OWL

[drowsy basin]

for sure, the dudes insane

[warm quartz]

Him being able to volley volley volley was just broken

[woven hill]

Hey I’m new to this game, whats this innovative strat they’re running, how come it doesnt have any damage dealers? Are damage dealers allowed in competitive play? Are damage dealers banned???

[warm quartz]

Lets NOT put twitch shitposts in here

Like I do it sparingly but lets not start that

[drowsy basin]

the sustain of healing is too high for most damage to work against this

[feral jacinth]

I cant tell but im now watching xQC being pissed off in overwatch

[supple prism]

why

[balmy wolf]

Christ Jjanu is good

[feral jacinth]

I dunno

[balmy wolf]

@woven hill So that is called Goats, named after the team that came up with the strat, the point of the comp is to come at your enemy with so much damage and and sustain that they'll outlast and eventually kill whatever is in their way.

[feral jacinth]

i-

[drowsy basin]

@balmy wolf it changed to be more damage oriented with zen over moira though in these newer iterations

[balmy wolf]

They don't have damage dealers cause Goats depends on tanks covering for one another and having a large health pool for the support line to gain ults faster which are powerful af since supports gain ult charge by healing or helping the team in some way and tanks gain value and ult charge by just hitting a lot of shit

@drowsy basin I know but this is the basic gist of it

[forest wharf]

dude youre getting jebaited by a copypasta

[balmy wolf]

mb didn't know just trying to help

[feral jacinth]

I thought kaeore was jebaiting us

[forest wharf]

lol

[feral jacinth]

So i just let it happen

[warm quartz]

xQc, pissed at OW.

[inland pawn]

just click heads

[warm quartz]

Whats new

[balmy wolf]

I don't jebait, I got better things to do with my time

why is he pissed at OW this time?

[warm quartz]

better question

when isnt he pissed

[feral jacinth]

I dont understand how people get so pissed at a game

[balmy wolf]

minecraft I hear; it's like apparently rage gamers rehab

[feral jacinth]

Just turn it off 4head

[warm quartz]

but then xqc would "lose viewers"

Despite when he was banned he had MORE viewers

[feral jacinth]

His viewers would watch anything

Theyre cancer

[warm quartz]

You act like we dont know that

lol

[rugged yacht]

shock is getting their ass kicked

[warm quartz]

We know, quite a few of us around here arent exactly fans of xQc, we're ok with Felix but not his persona (xQc)

[cedar drum]

Oof......bumper finally pays for his big ego plays.

[warm quartz]

full hold???

[gilded peak]

How they lose that?!?!

[cedar drum]

But Shock....just...oof

[rugged yacht]

okay i'm done for today time to farm points

[cedar drum]

Welp, this is a gg.

[gilded peak]

lol!!!

[warm quartz]

NEVIX????

[gilded peak]

Well, Titans kinda threw that lol

[warm quartz]

BUMPER YOU HAD THAT

YOU FUCK

[vagrant niche]

NICE THROW

[cedar drum]

Ahh fuck....Now I gotta watch more.

@warm quartz Bumper is amazing.....but also has an amazingly massive ego.

[gilded peak]

How?

[cedar drum]

Both big mistakes because of his massive mistakes

[gilded peak]

How does one do that charge?

[warm quartz]

Often times miscalcuations

You think you'll hit a wall

then you dont

[cedar drum]

He didn't need to charge....that was the ego play.

[feral jacinth]

xQC is a persona

[cedar drum]

But he is a big show off

[feral jacinth]

Wait so hes like

Not a dumbass?

[warm quartz]

No he didnt but still that is how the majority of accidental deaths happen

@feral jacinth I like to think Felix and xQc are seperate. xQc is a persona, Felix is a little more levelheaded

[cedar drum]

What about trying to sneak shatter a top tier OWL team? Then dying

[warm quartz]

he's still loud, still a smartass, but he's a little smarter and calmer

But he's far less toxic/encouraging toxicity

[cedar drum]

Oh...xqc...yeah, no, I think Xqc is the real person...the person you see in old videos on his YouTube was him trying to act normal.

[warm quartz]

i cant deny the xqc persona bleeds into his real life

[cedar drum]

How does Jjanu ALWAYS find a kill with bomb

[warm quartz]

But Felix is not just xQc

[gilded peak]

FU YEAH!

[warm quartz]

yep

[gilded peak]

DOOMFIST MOTHER EFFING DOOM FIST!

[warm quartz]

Called it

[cedar drum]

Whatever ....I don't see the appeal at all.

[warm quartz]

I dont either

[north beacon]

Doomfist did something omg

[cedar drum]

Jesus, Vancouver is too strong.

[warm quartz]

I dont like xQc at all but im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt a little

[cedar drum]

Every single player

[warm quartz]

His Viewers are the worst part of the xQc persona

[cedar drum]

Especially the tank duo

Jjanu is insane

[warm quartz]

Not even xQc himself

[cedar drum]

Jjanu is fucking insane

[vale pond]

results for today?

And any game worth watching

[cedar drum]

He might be the best DVA in the league right now

[gilded peak]

So.. Best team and they have 2 losses? How is Shock even in that?

[vale pond]

i saw xl kill outlaws

[cedar drum]

Better than space...

[warm quartz]

@vale pond london, nye, toronto.

Those were the wins

and nothing notable.

besides jjonak being jjonak during nye vs houston

[north beacon]

I thought it was fun watching NY stomp

[warm quartz]

Not wrong.

But its a standard nyxl game

so

Not super notable

[vale pond]

london won?

Damn

[gilded peak]

London is a lot stronger this week than they were last week

[warm quartz]

London won the whole shebang last year

so

shrug

also lucio has been used 91% of the time in owl

"he's not important to the meta" my fucking ASS

[upper niche]

There are no stats available for Lucios speed boost. eg, meters accelerated.

[warm quartz]

That i want to see

[north beacon]

It was probably a good thing that Bumper botched his charge. Hopefully it’s a good lesson for him

[upper niche]

It would be a pretty simple stat to compare, too. You're basically looking at the amount of movement when used he impacted, and put that alongside the healing stats.

[warm quartz]

if bumper doesnt learn from that charge ill be damned

"Keep your ego in your pants"

[feral jacinth]

Lucio is hella important for goats

Helps rein w/ speed if im correct

[rugged yacht]

that speed 👌

[warm quartz]

There was some asshole yesterday trolling-p sure he got banned- spreading false info and starting shit

[feral jacinth]

Ruin lucios speed jeff

[trim shadow]

Oh look at that

Houston got 4-0

Dont know whos more incosistent

Dalls the valiant or houston

[cedar drum]

@trim shadow Dallas

[drowsy basin]

dallas fuel

[cedar drum]

0-4 3-1 0-4 3-1

[trim shadow]

Now that u point that out yes dallas

[feral jacinth]

Guys

Do you think

[cedar drum]

Consistency could sit on Dallas' face and they wouldn't know what it means.

[feral jacinth]

The new hero will destroy goats

[minor flame]

jjanu

is top dva

one of

best

[feral jacinth]

Also the commentator needs to calm down holy shit

[upper niche]

yeeeeaaaaaaah I really am sick of these casters already :/

[trim shadow]

If hes a support dps hell only make it better

[cedar drum]

@feral jacinth They are doing their job.

[rustic perch]

jjanu only gets big bombs

[feral jacinth]

True but holy fuck

[trim shadow]

Itll take more then those half ass nerfs blizzard are dishing out

[feral jacinth]

Mans was screaming

[rustic perch]

his dva play in general is nothing special on owl level

[upper niche]

It's like "hey, I'm from Contenders, I gotta make a name from myself".

[cedar drum]

This is what they are paid for

People like this.

[minor flame]

top dvas in bombs*

[upper niche]

No, they're paid to make it interesting and informative.

[trim shadow]

Sparxk lost to the spitfire?

I must watxj

[minor flame]

yes

[trim shadow]

I predicted 4-0 sparck

[upper niche]

That was neither interesting nor entertaining.

[cedar drum]

These two are particularly loved because of their ability to hype @upper niche

[trim shadow]

Cause i trusted ria and nosmite

[feral jacinth]

Waiting for a commentator just to yell “REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”

To “hype”

[trim shadow]

And now there throwing dirt in my face

Guess time to look towards nezt week

[upper niche]

yeah, nah.

[supple prism]

nah, yeah

[trim shadow]

Oof nezt week is march

Holy shit time flies

Shangjai is gonna win both of there games next weekend

3-1 chengdu 3-2 dallas

[feral jacinth]

Yeah almost time for fanime

Im hype

[trim shadow]

Society will go into deathcon 1 if shanghai gets on a 5+ winning streak

[upper niche]

Would be pretty funny iof Dallas went 0-4 against Shanghai 😃

[trim shadow]

@upper niche the trifecta almost

[upper niche]

"deathcon"??

lol. Well, I guess that's new ;D

[feral jacinth]

Jayne would have a stroke

[upper niche]

I only want to see it happen just to make Jayne stfu for a bit.

[trim shadow]

Deathcon is basically nuclear war

[upper niche]

@trim shadow Defcon.

[trim shadow]

It sounds better with “death”

[upper niche]

It doesn't. And given the implications, it really doesn't.

[trim shadow]

@feral jacinth i would have a stroke i almost died when shanghai won

[feral jacinth]

Me too

[trim shadow]

My roomates at the hospital were also having a stroke

[upper niche]

Man, we really dialled it up to 11 with the exaggeration didn't we?

[trim shadow]

Gotta live life at 100 or get left behind

Capitalism at its finest

[vale pond]

!schedule

[somber yew]

Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 1 Week 2

undefined VAN vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Feb 24th 19:45 EST (2 hours ago)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Feb 25, 2019, 2:36 AM

[vale pond]

sad

[solar trout]

oof

[gilded peak]

Aww, no 4-0

Kinda weird to have a 3-1 ending where Shock wins the last match yet they show Titans winning

[cedar drum]

Bumper is probably just gonna take his dick out on camera now...

Or is that too much even for his ego

Fissure...mmm...ok.

[gilded peak]

Hmm, so his eye isn't set on Fusion

[drowsy basin]

im pretty sure fusion cant play this stage anymore

[gilded peak]

Oh? The whole stage? Thought it was couple matches

Sucks having a 2-way contract.

[cedar drum]

There are talks going on with Blizzard

Lots of people involved

[drowsy basin]

from what i saw 2 way players can only play 2 matches per stage

[cedar drum]

This dumb rule might change

Apparently Blizzard is being very cooperative and open

Idk, I don't trust them.

[drowsy basin]

so same thing with Philly and Elk. he's already played his 2 matches aswell

[cedar drum]

Yeah

There are other players too

Not just these two

[woven hill]

is this the last match?

[upper niche]

that was the last match for today yes

[woven hill]

ending a bit early

[upper niche]

So in their remaining games, LAG play the teams that are currently 4th, 9th, 10th and 12th. That's gonna be a pretty big impact on who finishes in and out.

PHI on the other hand play LAV, PAR and NYE. "Good luck".

WTF? I didn't even know you could do that - that Rein barrier blocked Sound Barrier.

[slow walrus]

yeah shields block barrier given

fate will often bubble around an ulting lucio reflexively in his ranked games (seen on super's stream)

it's kinda insane to watch

[upper niche]

Interesting, so I just took SFS as an example - out of the 4 teams they have left to play this stage, only one of those teams (PAR) have played a team (GLA) that SFS have already played.

Makes it really hard to do a head-to-head prediction with 1 level of separation.

[molten skiff]

So titans still undefeated

[fathom acorn]

Aren’t titans like the really cocky and pretentious ones

[gaunt acorn]

i think shock is a lot more cocky

and they got 3-1'd by us, so

kind of unavoidable when you have sinatraa and super on the same team

[fathom acorn]

I’m just thinking back to the first time I heard them when they said that Korean contenders teams were harder than OWL teams

[gilded peak]

Well, they are proving it to be true though

[fathom acorn]

Eh

Most of their matchups have been easy teams

[gilded peak]

Well it depends who is considered a good team or bad team

A lot of people said Shocks was a high tier team with their new line-up

[fathom acorn]

Shanghai has been inconsistent

[gilded peak]

Yet they have 2 losses now

[fathom acorn]

Shock was doing alright but they fall apart under pressure

And make a lot of mistakes

And GZC is alright and gave them a bit of a challenge but nothing really spectacular

Hell, the first matchup id call hard that they have is Paris

Their next match is against Val which hasn’t even won a single match

[upper niche]

Yeah, Shock were tipped to do really well - haven't lived up to hype. But also most of the new teams were also tipped to be rubbish, and they've been anything but.

[little merlin]

is it me or is val just really not great this stage

like they have talent

[upper niche]

In particular all the non-Chinese new teams.

[little merlin]

but is it meta?

ATL has been interesting

same w/ toronto

[fathom acorn]

There were a lot of times where shocks rien on KR (can’t remember the name) would just make the dumbest charges

Like, he would charge straight into an enemy comp for no reason

[little merlin]

Shock need to get they coaching right

period the end

that's a good roster

[fathom acorn]

Goats seems to be being punished a lot more

[little merlin]

thank fuck

[fathom acorn]

Even though it is still very dominant

[little merlin]

I hate watching goats all the damn time

sombra is popping off in this meta rn

shanghi's sombra, idr who it was

[fathom acorn]

Also London has gotten a lot better at goats

Probably cause birdring is benched...

[little merlin]

I didn't watch london today

[fathom acorn]

Poor birdring

[little merlin]

birdring needs a sniper

[fathom acorn]

Birdring is silently crying in the corner

[little merlin]

drop the silent

[fathom acorn]

Profit is a 100% better zarya though

[little merlin]

yeah

[fathom acorn]

Also guard can sombra

[little merlin]

I hope goats dies off soon

wanna see some actual fucking fun lineups

[fathom acorn]

A lot of off goats recently

And some dps goats counters

[little merlin]

hunters really dont wanna play goats

I don't remember them running it their first match this weekend

and I loved it

[fathom acorn]

The casters love the hunters

Shanghai also love running off goats

Atlanta just does whatever they want

[little merlin]

shanghai runs a 3 supp, 2 tank, 1 sombra

wait

3 tank, 2 supp

right

idr

[fathom acorn]

Houston pressured NYXL off goats

And forced them to bring out the Mccree

Then they switched off the counter which was dumb

Cause they started getting rolled

[gilded peak]

Hunters don't really run GOATS because of Ameng insane Hammond

But it can easily be countered hard like how Dynasty did

[fathom acorn]

I like hunters cause of their icon

I like bears

[lean badge]

Let's go dragons!

[ruby pendant]

they got to fix the token drops for this season

[cedar drum]

@ruby pendant They fixed them afaik

If you aren't in an eligible country, you won't get them.

[ruby pendant]

i am in the eligible country

only got like 3 tokens

[cedar drum]

@ruby pendant Where u watching?

[ruby pendant]

lol, was like what?!

[cedar drum]

Twitch?

[ruby pendant]

yea

[cedar drum]

Phone or PC?

[ruby pendant]

pc

[cedar drum]

Any buffering issues?

[ruby pendant]

nah, been constant

[cedar drum]

If not then just try and clearing all browser cache and relogin on twitch. Also reconnect your Blizzard

[ruby pendant]

k, i'll try that bhu!

thanks

[cedar drum]

Other than that, it might just be delayed tokens.

[ruby pendant]

lol that would be cool too

[cedar drum]

Can happen for some people some times, but afaik, there isn't a general big issue anymore.

Like last week there was a day where tokens for most people were delayed by 5 hrs or so

[molten skiff]

im watching titans vs shock highlights

so titans finished king's row 0.1 seconds left and shock finished king's row right when the clock hit 0?

[pliant magnet]

Got 100 league tokens for watching 20 mins yesterday lol

[fathom acorn]

I’m so disappointed in the shock

They fucking fell apart

They had kings row

But they just made so many bad decisions in the last push

[hidden vault]

@pliant magnet it's the 100 token drop

[queen drift]

Surprised by how well expansion teams are doing this season

Also it means nothing so early on but try telling someone in stage 4 that the opening few weeks of season 2, shanghai have a better record than valiant

[forest raven]

A lot of new players came from contenders

Where they'd been playing goats for 6 months

Two biggest examples being Paris and Vancouver

[karmic grotto]

Vancouver rolled SFS

Superiour goats wins

[gaunt acorn]

my team big team

[balmy wolf]

i was super happy with the charge vs titans game

and im hype for the next one theyre gonna do

which is coming soon i think

Charge will have a chance to go that extra mile and show what theyre really made of

and Titans now know that Charge is not to be ignored when they came this close to beating them

[hybrid helm]

Oh wow Houston got “rolled and smoked” or is it smoked and rolled? Idk I need to improve my meme knowledge

[sleek zephyr]

rolled and smoked

[sullen berry]

Charge vs Titans throws me back to Meta Bellum vs Runaway

[fathom acorn]

Houston started out doing well

[sullen berry]

I love the progress they've made but guangzhou plays outside of control maps haven't consistently gone above and beyond for convincing plays

[fathom acorn]

Then they switched to the mirror goats comp

For some reason

[sullen berry]

They had it going for them against Hangzhou Spark?

[fathom acorn]

They were doing 100% better with the goats counter

No the NYXL

They pressured them to use DPS

Cause their goats counter was destroying them

Then the lost a single fight and switch off

And got destroyed

[rose saddle]

Mayhem are beating the charge ⚙️⚙️⛪️

[gaunt acorn]

mayhem and charge aren't even comparable

charge is upper-tier

mayhem is in contention for worst team in the league

although i'd probably give that title to washington atm

granted, a lot of weird chokes/upset wins have happened

but charge would have to fuck up massively to lose to mayhem

[sullen berry]

play KYB on control and Eileen on payload

Charge against valiant would be the best time to play Onlywish with the good English Chinese comma for eillen and co

[sleek zephyr]

Eileen has a decent sombra for control

[sullen berry]

His sombra on Volskaya was pretty good against hunters

I'm getting ahead of myself looking forward to Paris, Oasis, Lijiang and Blizzard world in the next stage map pool

[analog lark]

Chengdu might get into stage one playoffs

Let that sink in

[limber pine]

They got trucked by Seoul and barely won against average teams.

[analog lark]

They were considered bottom of the pack in preseason

[limber pine]

they'll make the playoffs cuz their schedule is pretty weak

3 wins could get them in at 7 or 8

*7th or 8th place

[analog lark]

Yeah, that's part of it. Meanwhile LA valiant is 0-3

[limber pine]

LAV confuses me

their pieces are good, but their team is not

[analog lark]

It's because they lost Verbo (totally not because Verbo is my favorite player ever)

But seriously, they lost their synergy

[limber pine]

also

their stage 1 schedule is brutal

[karmic grotto]

F

[limber pine]

defiant and spark are better teams than anybody thought

[analog lark]

Most certainly, well Spark less so

[limber pine]

I could see them get only 1 or 2 wins

[analog lark]

One thing i like about this season, upsets are a plenty

There's way less 4-0's this season than last season

[pearl stratus]

LAV is out just because of their schedule, honestly.

Right now I'd say Vancouver is probably the best team in the league in terms of 3:3 and adaptability, then NYXL.

I think Bumper and Jjanu are comparable to Mano and Meko, which not many teams can say.

[limber pine]

Bumper's Rein was streaky

at least in yesterday's match

he was way too aggresive at times

[pearl stratus]

He does that though, its kind of his thing.

I'm actually relatively certain its to keep people guessing.

Because he's unpredictable. One moment he looks like a ladder Rein with his weird ass charges, then next he's blocking a 180 shatter.

[feral jacinth]

Atl vs Paris :((

[pearl stratus]

Pretty sure even if Valiant win all the rest of their games they still wouldn't make Stage 1 playoffs

I think they'd have to do something like 4-0 the rest of the games.

[trim shadow]

@pearl stratus map differental plays a big key for playoffs at the end of the season as well

so lets say they bounce back from going 3-7 in stage 1

and they go undefeated in stage 2 then go 9-1 in stage 3 and 8-2 in stage 4 they could still miss playoffs

[pearl stratus]

My reference was just to Stage Playoffs.

Not total.

[fathom acorn]

Bumper yesterday was either amazing or making silver level charges

And most of his silver level charges came at key moments

[limber pine]

I'd think most teams that get 2 losses have to have a good map record to get in

3 losses seems likely a death sentence

[karmic grotto]

ATL will make playoffs

that's for sure

[limber pine]

yeah it's likely

fairly good schedule

idk why TOR is still there

What TOR did decent is force ATL into GOATs when Daco and Dogman were out

[simple rover]

go chengdu

[balmy wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531154134154346508/549667033118408714/cc2714e.png

[green stump]

Da heck

[balmy wolf]

no

[karmic grotto]

mods

[nova wadi]

@balmy wolf cant hate on him for it however might be smarter if he used a more personal acc for that

[sleek zephyr]

Or he wants to share his good taste 👀

[simple basin]

hi guyssssssss

[uneven swan]

@simple rover OMEGALUL

[feral igloo]

I mean he’s a big boi

[queen drift]

Florida are one of the worst in the league but saying they’d have to fuck up to win against charge is kinda meh imo

In this meta it’s a lot easier to lose to lesser teams

[simple badger]

are they doing anything about goats???

[limber pine]

armor changes on live

[balmy wolf]

Such as?

[solar dagger]

@limber pine I am going with Atlanta

[queen drift]

Brigs been nerfed and armour has been nerfed but goats is still strong

Probably will be strong unless there are some big changes, which I don’t think will happen

[ruby pendant]

they can try to add new characters/abilities to counter

[candid yoke]

it just feels like a never-ending cycle of nerfs and buffs lul

[limber pine]

I mean

That’s what every game like OW is

[balmy wolf]

What if the next hero was a hero designed to kill GOATS just like Brig was designed to kill dive? Hopefully with more skill required though.

Zarya would need to die to kill goats

[upper niche]

More anti-heals would kill goats.

[steep hemlock]

I created an OWL Fantasy League for people of the competitive community! Would love for more of this community to join! Please DM me for more info! Wanting to do the draft before Thursdays Matches!

[icy geyser]

Is there a YouTube account that archives each game?

I can't watch on twitch unfortunately

[gaunt acorn]

@icy geyser https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1a4jGftblJ_tR2PEKDJbA/videos

[balmy wolf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/106027866201812992/549765530442268684/D0S4K5CXgAEQXUo.png

(guy on right is horthic from One Point, the contenders team)

[vagrant niche]

is Babtiste the demo man?

[trim shadow]

so yeah currently baptiste will make goats better

goats all year fucking round

blizz confirmed it to be dps and support

[mellow niche]

DPS AND support?

[trim shadow]

basically another zenyatta

[mellow niche]

Oh boy

now they can't be mad when I play Battle Baptiste

[trim shadow]

watch his ult absolutely break the game

in his origin he has this grenade launcher thing in hand

and hes holding a syringe in the other

it could be a zarya laser or a junkrat cannon

[mellow niche]

Either way, I can't wait to see his abilities

Assuming he'll have survivability on his own

[upper niche]

Healing grenade.

Woohoo, more AOE, Goats-enabling supports 😄

[mellow niche]

I hope at least part of him can help end the GOATS meta

[trim shadow]

that has to be a grenade launcher in hand

he can probably dish out mad amounts of damage

i dont think hell have direct healing from it tho like ana

[mellow niche]

if that's the case, it would be useful against barriers

or grouped enemies, like Junkrat

[trim shadow]

that grenade launcher could be slug shots and they can probably hitscan

i dont think hell have any cc abilities like brig did

that syringe might be self healing and outgoing healing as well

from what ive seen from many hero introductions details matter

and the fact he has this giant ass syringe tells me alot about what kind of healing he can do

im gonna put 70% on the fact hell just help goats

[mellow niche]

God no

I hope not

[trim shadow]

hang on make the world a better place one bandage or one bullet at a time

oh my god blizzard please for fucks sake tell me you didnt give a support a god damn machine gun

its either a shotgun or a machine gun

thats not a grenade canister thats fucking drum

[tawny sigil]

did they forget to start the test server?

[limber pine]

probably not until tomorrow

normal patch day

[icy geyser]

I know I'm late

But thanks @gaunt acorn!

[gaunt acorn]

i forgot for what, but yw

[icy geyser]

Archives link

[trim shadow]

owl has been fairly diversed

goats has been played 95% of the time

[gaunt acorn]

@trim shadow you can circlejerk all you want about goats, but the hero diversity has been far greater than owl s1 had

[trim shadow]

Litterally the only map youll see a standard team comp on is busan

and youll have outliars like trying to sym bastion on anubis

Or mei bastion on horizon

[hybrid galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeFsastFvdY Paladins guy explaining why goats even works in the first place

[idle beacon]

oh fuck

SHD won over boston 3-0

WHEN?

gawd damnit

[limber pine]

they did, but boston were told a few minutes before the match that they couldn't play Fusions

so Axxiom had to main tank and Colourhex had to flex to Zarya

[idle beacon]

you think that's the reason for the loss?

😮

[limber pine]

Boston only had that match this week (no second match), so it's safe to assume that they spent all week practicing just for that match

Idk if they would have one, but it would have been better than 3 - 1

[idle beacon]

ok

[limber pine]

I'd recommend catching the vod if you can @idle beacon, you can tell they weren't prepared

[idle beacon]

yea i will watch it later tonite

[limber pine]

!shedule

oh yeha

!schedule

[somber yew]

Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 1 Week 3

undefined WAS vs PHI <:PHI:438251672536481794>

Feb 28th 19:00 EST (in 2 days)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Feb 28th 20:30 EST (in 2 days)

<:FLA:438251672779882506> FLA vs GZC undefined

Feb 28th 22:00 EST (in 3 days)

<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs HZS undefined

Feb 28th 23:30 EST (in 3 days)

<:GLA:438251672632950787> GLA vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Mar 1st 19:00 EST (in 3 days)

undefined TOR vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Mar 1st 20:30 EST (in 3 days)

undefined VAN vs VAL <:VAL:438251672720900097>

Mar 1st 22:00 EST (in 4 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs CDH undefined

Mar 1st 23:30 EST (in 4 days)

undefined PAR vs ATL undefined

Mar 2nd 15:00 EST (in 4 days)

<:FLA:438251672779882506> FLA vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

Mar 2nd 16:30 EST (in 4 days)

<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs WAS undefined

Mar 2nd 18:00 EST (in 4 days)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs DAL <:DAL:438251672783814657>

Mar 2nd 19:30 EST (in 4 days)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs TOR undefined

Mar 3rd 15:00 EST (in 5 days)

undefined HZS vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

Mar 3rd 16:30 EST (in 5 days)

<:VAL:438251672720900097> VAL vs GZC undefined

Mar 3rd 18:00 EST (in 5 days)

<:NYE:438251672997724160> NYE vs SEO <:SEO:438251672754585602>

Mar 3rd 19:30 EST (in 5 days)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Feb 26, 2019, 2:27 PM

[limber pine]

poor Washington

gonna get bodied by PHI and SFS

[pearl stratus]

@limber pine Fusions wouldn't have changed the outcome at all, even in the slightest.

[limber pine]

you really don't think so?

[idle beacon]

is boombox alive again?

[pearl stratus]

Having a different Rein/Zarya doesn't magically let you know how to play against Sombra.

And DDing farmed them like a plat team, unfortunately.

It was a re-hash of the NYXL game.

Boston has no clue how to counter a Sombra.

[idle beacon]

you're talkin like they're fuckin dumb

i dont like that

[pearl stratus]

Dding stats was something like...

158 Hacks, 90 Hacks from EMP.

He wasn't stopped even a little bit.

They also had no answer for his Pharah.

[limber pine]

if that's true then, Michelle is going to roll over them on Thursday

[pearl stratus]

My guess would be after the humiliation of that game they've probably practiced against Sombra a lot.

Because if its an obvious weakness every team will do it.

It reminded me of Stage... 3? 3 or 4 Dallas.

When people realized they had no Widow.

[idle beacon]

sounds like dding's sombra is 10x stronger than danteh's sombra?

[limber pine]

technically they had like 3 widows

lul

[pearl stratus]

Not necessarily 10x stronger, Houston has been playing it into teams that know how to deal with it.

NYXL isn't going to be phased by a Sombra.

She'll still be effective, but they know how to counter play it too.

[limber pine]

well positioned supports

and spacing

[pearl stratus]

Yeah. If I remember the stat lines I believe Dding average something like 4.3 people per EMP.

[idle beacon]

i havent really watched any s2 game yet

are nyxl topnotch again?

[pearl stratus]

Which means he was always catching one, if not both, supports.

Well supports who matter vs. Sombra.

Lucio/Zen.

[limber pine]

@idle beacon NYXL and Vancouver look to be top 2 in this meta

[pearl stratus]

Then 3-20 is like...

Anyones game.

It's weird.

[limber pine]

yup

[forest raven]

NY's SoS so far has also been uh

Dog shit

[limber pine]

Paris/ATL/PHL w/Boom

[idle beacon]

what about dynasty with fissure?

[pearl stratus]

Fissures still shit.

[forest raven]

They've played Washington, Boston and Houston

[limber pine]

!standings

[idle beacon]

still shit?

[forest raven]

Not exactly top 8 teams

[idle beacon]

what do you mean .. STILL SHIT

[limber pine]

tracer bot please

[pearl stratus]

Fissure isn't a good tank for this meta, even in the slightest.

[idle beacon]

oh

[limber pine]

!commands

[idle beacon]

nomore winston?