esports-discussion

[worn falcon]

Mano is

[warm quartz]

nah full hold

[tardy fog]

Mano is a top 3 main tank for a reason

[warm quartz]

Like there's no way

[tardy fog]

Top 2 with how fissures playing recently

[warm quartz]

GOOD NO HALF C9

[north beacon]

the one thing i like about current meta is how stressful it must make things for instalock DPS people

[warm quartz]

TY NYXL

They should be nervous Lightsong

being honest

[latent vigil]

this is sad dude

[warm quartz]

yep

[sand violet]

full held

lol

[mossy bone]

LUL FULL HELD

[warm quartz]

get fucked

2CP

[minor flame]

fucking destroyed

[smoky spade]

Ez clap

[mossy bone]

this is rape

[mellow niche]

NYXL FTW

[minor flame]

NYXL holy shit

[mossy bone]

this isnt right

[warm quartz]

That was hardcore 2cp

[mellow niche]

Steamrolled

[nova wadi]

God damn nyxl

[warm quartz]

cool1o

[serene tendon]

imagine rooting for nyxl 😴

[tardy fog]

This reminds me of nyxl last season

[karmic grotto]

Outlaws not ready for OWL

[pearl cedar]

Houston did the same thing on horizon against defiant

[mellow niche]

They almost lost that point

[worn falcon]

NYXL is love <3

[warm quartz]

why have you been playing apex for 21 hours

[pearl cedar]

why didnt they run monkey too

[tardy fog]

Absolute untouchable

[balmy wolf]

nyxl looking unstoppable again

[smoky spade]

I live in New York smh, dont judge @serene tendon

[minor flame]

NYXL S1 roots

[mellow niche]

So many close calls

[pearl cedar]

Also Linkzr should be in, why is Jake in?

[nova wadi]

Fuck nyxl is so good

[warm quartz]

close calls

LOL

NICE MEME

[tardy fog]

They're 4-0 now

[mossy bone]

@smoky spade ay same bro

[karmic grotto]

Nyxl still hasn't played against London or fusion yet

[mellow niche]

This was SUCH A CLOSE GAME

[pearl cedar]

people keep talking about Jake being better on brig but its not showing lol

[mellow niche]

WTF

[smoky spade]

Ayee @mossy bone

[mellow niche]

"close game"

[warm quartz]

Honestly, if they have Linkzr in they may have had a chance

[tardy fog]

Linkzr brig was definitely worse

[smoky spade]

Guess you could say that's

[balmy wolf]

@karmic grotto londons goats aint looking that good

[smoky spade]

Coolio

[worn falcon]

Lets back to Jakerat

[warm quartz]

noooo

[karmic grotto]

But hey, they make up for it

[warm quartz]

not jakerat

[bold pier]

20-0

[serene niche]

Is fl0wer not playing?

[nova wadi]

@karmic grotto fusion when they get boombox back maybe. But their goats isnt perfect

[warm quartz]

20-0 aka FUCK YOU

[pearl cedar]

I mean at least Linkzr attempted to make plays though lol

[karmic grotto]

Talent of London and fusion

[north beacon]

as much as i hate junkrat in my games, i kind of miss seeing him more in OWL

[warm quartz]

@serene niche Flow3r is supposedly benched

[tardy fog]

Linkzr didn't do anything lmao

[mellow niche]

[warm quartz]

b team

[bold pier]

21 - 0

[pearl cedar]

Jake kinda just sat back too often and didnt really initiate anything

[bold pier]

gosh dang

[warm quartz]

NYXL

SIT DOWN NY

[tardy fog]

Yeah because he gets hard dove

[sand violet]

houston kinda sucks wieners

[warm quartz]

P L S it hurts not harder

[karmic grotto]

Houston sucks indeed

[mellow niche]

Jake's basically just a meme now, isn't he?

[warm quartz]

We know houston sucks

[tardy fog]

Brig is the squishiest target when rawkus plays behind rein shield

[sharp kindle]

If they stuck with pharmercy and tracer they probably could've won but noooo they had to go back for goats

fucking idiots

[warm quartz]

@mellow niche oh honey are you new here

he's been a meme

[serene niche]

@warm quartz Why? D: Rip Guessing they are keeping him until they face real contenders.

[mellow niche]

@warm quartz Yeah, this is the first time I'm paying attention to the OWL :3

[warm quartz]

@serene niche No its cause he actually sucks compared to their players

@mellow niche YEP YOU'RE NEW

he's BEEN A MEME

[north beacon]

where's jakerat at

[mossy bone]

i feel bad for that person in the houston jersey

[mellow niche]

Unfortunate.

[warm quartz]

J LUL K E was the original meme

[mellow niche]

J K E

[warm quartz]

Thanks to xQc

[lavish zenith]

one on the elft is a cute button

left*

[mellow niche]

Anybody else have the pass?

Who you guys been focusing on?

[nova wadi]

Jjonak

[warm quartz]

J LUL KE, Trihard 7, SOOOOOOOOOON, and a few others

[nova wadi]

And mano

[warm quartz]

also shd was straight up a meme

[mellow niche]

Good choices

[worn falcon]

Bring back Jakerat

best meme

[tardy fog]

Ark exists wtf

[minor flame]

ARK

ARKARKAKRAKRAKR

[tardy fog]

I forgot about that guy

[solar trout]

just...don't watch the dj khaled mess from last season

[nova wadi]

I miss ark

[mellow niche]

I'm spectating Mano and Libero because tanking and dps

[nova wadi]

Oh

[mellow niche]

@solar trout How bad was it?

[worn falcon]

I miss SBB

[balmy wolf]

Ark might be in cuz they're planning to do a Mercy comp

[solar trout]

it was very bad

[nova wadi]

My stream is so far behind

[mellow niche]

VERY bad?

[north beacon]

i was thinking mercy too

[nova wadi]

@worn falcon my bb sbb :(

[solar trout]

horrible

[minor flame]

khaled didnt even dj

[warm quartz]

Yeah i just listed off the memes off the top of my head

[minor flame]

he just terribly danced

[balmy wolf]

Anamo is the better Lucio but Ark is the better Mercy.

[minor flame]

and said

[mellow niche]

The very thought of him with the OWL sounds disgusting

[minor flame]

ARE YOU READY OVERWATCH

[warm quartz]

LOL

[north beacon]

NY do 4DPS again

pls

[tardy fog]

Bastion strat calling it now

[warm quartz]

THE FUCKING TWITCH CHAT

[mellow niche]

[north beacon]

i want to see 4 DPS

[nova wadi]

Why not put in sbb if theyre gonna do a dps comp

Oh wait sbb sucks as tank

[mellow niche]

JJonak solo healing owo

[minor flame]

SBB should do well as zarya

but i think hes outclassed

[worn falcon]

SBB as Ana

[minor flame]

lol

[nova wadi]

^

[bold pier]

mekkooooo

[warm quartz]

📞 hello yes this is ssb can i be released 📞

[feral jacinth]

Ssb?

[mellow niche]

seybyeolbe

[balmy wolf]

ssb pepega

[nova wadi]

Nyxl better goats over runaway?

[karmic grotto]

If you don't gonna play, might as well stop playing for nyxl

[lavish zenith]

what happened with the sombra?

anyone had eyes on?

[nova wadi]

Sbb isnt gonna play goats meta

[minor flame]

LMAO

[nova wadi]

None of the 3 dps are gonna see play time ngl

[north beacon]

meko forgot which hero he was playing

[karmic grotto]

Some players get wasted so hard

[warm quartz]

surefour

lets be real hes always on somethin

[nova wadi]

Muma isnt that good

[warm quartz]

usually hype

Muma is cute

he's there for the cute card

[nova wadi]

Lawl

[mellow niche]

JJonak's popping off again 😄

[worn falcon]

OOOF

[warm quartz]

Cute and LGBT card.

He's admitted thats probably why he got picked

[mellow niche]

Isn't Effect bi though?

[balmy wolf]

LUL that rally

[nova wadi]

Effect is bi yes

[lavish zenith]

which team does he play for?

[feral jacinth]

Jjonak

[mint turtle]

Muma always came up as whiny to me

[mellow niche]

So Muma's not the only one sporting the LGBT card

[nova wadi]

Dallas

[mossy bone]

THEY WON A FIGHT

[feral jacinth]

Fix ya trans

[karmic grotto]

Texans teams are inconsistent

Decease to exist

[mossy bone]

that emp didnt do shit

[lavish zenith]

muma just keeps being wiped out

[mellow niche]

Nobody went for JJonak

[warm quartz]

as i said

[mellow niche]

NOBODY fired at the 50 HP target

[warm quartz]

Muma is kind of overrated as of right now

[nova wadi]

Always has been

[warm quartz]

@mellow niche They fire at jjonak he fires back and they die

[cedar drum]

The team owner is gonna take all their guns away after this game

[karmic grotto]

Lol

Waiting for mid seasons pickup

But one player will never play in OWL :(

[worn falcon]

what the heck did boink jumping in the 6 stack

[mellow niche]

@warm quartz True

[warm quartz]

They know not to fire at jjonak. He's like Meliodas from seven deadly sins

he uses full counter and wrecks your ass

[cedar drum]

Difference between Super and Muma is, they both do the comedy routine about them being insane but only Super is funny and only Super is actually good.

[warm quartz]

im sorry was that a bullet? take my bALLS

[karmic grotto]

anime reference

[nova wadi]

I dont like super

[tardy fog]

Super is definitely not good lmao

[warm quartz]

Yep take my weeb reference

[cedar drum]

@tardy fog Better than Muma

[nova wadi]

@tardy fog rt

[karmic grotto]

Np I watched the Anime too

[mossy bone]

they might not finish the map 🤔

[mint turtle]

Super seems pretty good imo

At least better than muma

[nova wadi]

Isnt that hard

[tardy fog]

Super is literally the biggest reason why shock lost their one map loss

[nova wadi]

To be better than muma rn

[tardy fog]

Dude died twice in important teamfights

[mossy bone]

i remember like freshnuts with a video that was titled "IS SUPER THE BEST REIN IN OWL" or something like that

[balmy wolf]

Super is not better than Muma lol

[tardy fog]

Randonly

[mossy bone]

[tardy fog]

Do people not remember?!?!?

[balmy wolf]

Freshnuts looks for clicks

[cedar drum]

Yeah... @mossy bone Super isn't even top 10 probably

[balmy wolf]

I wouldn't take his titles too seriously

[nova wadi]

I didnt watch sf games

[cedar drum]

But Muma hangs out in bottom 5

[karmic grotto]

Who's another top 3 tank

[tardy fog]

Gesture is the best tankin the world

[karmic grotto]

🤔

[cedar drum]

I wanna say Oge is top 3 but I'll be shat on here because of his inconsisteny this season

[nova wadi]

Glad u see it yourself bhu

[cedar drum]

Sado is definitely one of the best

[karmic grotto]

[nova wadi]

Erhm

Sado is inconsistent as well

[mint turtle]

Gamsu top 3

[tardy fog]

Gesture is the reason London won S1

[mint turtle]

[mossy bone]

wow they didnt finish

[minor flame]

this is like

the first time houston

won a fight

in the entire series

besides map 1

[karmic grotto]

Nyxl not being seriously last map

[mossy bone]

that line of 0's for the first 3 maps is kinda sad

[north beacon]

this is going to be like when my team holds the last 5m on defense in comp and cheers. and then on attack we can't even get to first point

[smoky spade]

Yeah with the solo gravs lol @karmic grotto

[stoic crater]

big sad

[tardy fog]

Bastion strat

Calling it now

Don't @ me

[cedar drum]

I'm gonna ask the same Poll question that I love to ask whenever such a game happens...

[nova wadi]

Muma orisa

[karmic grotto]

I'm advertising for bastion goats

[cedar drum]

Who here think they should fine teams for paying this bad?

This shit loses viewers

[karmic grotto]

^

[cedar drum]

Not fun to watch

[karmic grotto]

You playing bad? Fined.

[smoky spade]

Lol you were right @tardy fog

[north beacon]

i'm waiting for the next meta being 4+ supports

[tardy fog]

I'm a god

Pay me

[karmic grotto]

Become Chendou Hunters

Not always wij

Win

[feral jacinth]

GENJI

[mossy bone]

DPS

[feral jacinth]

NOOO

[karmic grotto]

But their matches are entertaining

[nova wadi]

Imagine having a shit day, you play bad and get fined

[feral jacinth]

DOOOOO@

GENJI

NO

YOU FUCKS

[cedar drum]

Chengdu gains viewers....they're the most entertaining team

[nova wadi]

Fining for playing bad is bullshit

[feral jacinth]

Wait you get fined for playing bad??? Is shd ok?

[nova wadi]

No

Bhu asked if they should

[feral jacinth]

Oh okay lmao i was gone say

[tardy fog]

If you get fined for playing bad every team but nyxl would get fined

[warm quartz]

see theres the meme

[north beacon]

SHD players got fined for playing bad by getting traded

[warm quartz]

SHD would be bankrupt if that happened

[mossy bone]

theyre not serious about this map lol

[lean badge]

What universe is this? Why they pick 5 DPS?

[warm quartz]

@lean badge NYXL already won

[lavish zenith]

rawkus doing some work

[warm quartz]

doesnt matter besides map win

[tardy fog]

I'm a prophet God BTW

Called that bastion

Bow to me

[north beacon]

NY pls do 6 support

[jagged crater]

route 66 must have some fun hero diveristy

[nova wadi]

You would want to 4-0 tho

[karmic grotto]

Bastion goats

When?

[nova wadi]

Never

[bold pier]

oh

[nova wadi]

POH

[tardy fog]

Man I missed dps

[bold pier]

well then

[feral jacinth]

Where tf was this houston

[nova wadi]

LUL

[cedar drum]

Ok...we can cancel Houston's fine

[feral jacinth]

Lmao the boo’s

[karmic grotto]

Nah

[jagged crater]

boooooooo

[gilded peak]

Well, that's how everybody feels about Goats

[simple badger]

boooooooooooo

[cedar drum]

@feral jacinth all previous maps were too goats friendly.

[tardy fog]

This is the meta.picking dps on escort is a throw

[north beacon]

jake's starting to untilt. he was about to leave the match

[cedar drum]

They did ran varying comps on nepal

[nova wadi]

J lul k e

[karmic grotto]

Goats is the most save meta

But C'mon

[stoic crater]

wow they are running sombra decently

[nova wadi]

Jake on brig is omegalul

[stoic crater]

o

[karmic grotto]

There's no dps

[cedar drum]

SPREE POGGERS

[nova wadi]

Pog

[stoic crater]

Spree indeed

[warm quartz]

i posted good shitpost in the chat

📞 4Head HEY HOUSTON 📞 4Head JUST HIT BRONZE 📞 4Head CAN I JOIN?

imsorry

[feral jacinth]

LMAO

[nova wadi]

Nice charge muma

[feral jacinth]

pls tell us of good shitposts thann you my dude

[warm quartz]

i stole it

its originally a dallas meme

[normal hornet]

g

[warm quartz]

stop

stop

stop

[karmic grotto]

Idiot positioning

[nova wadi]

Ffs

[supple prism]

dude

[tardy fog]

Nice

[feral jacinth]

<@&397922982632226816>

[nova wadi]

MOOODS

[karmic grotto]

Outlaws worst positioning every seen

Danteh on top

Meanwhile their team gets picked off

[warm quartz]

@feral jacinth I reported it to modmail so

[karmic grotto]

Tf is he doing there?

[feral jacinth]

Oh bet

[nova wadi]

1 token per hour REEEEE

[karmic grotto]

Feels like nyxl is only punishing mistakes

[mossy dagger]

Cough not serious, Cough modmail. COUGH.

[karmic grotto]

Only that

[feral jacinth]

shhhhh

[stoic crater]

no way

Yup

[gilded peak]

Playing Russian Roulette with 6 bullets XD

[feral jacinth]

I forgot bout modmail

[stoic crater]

Wait

[minor flame]

BOINK

WHERE IS IT

[warm quartz]

@mossy dagger They started in other chats sorry lol

[stoic crater]

yup

[smoky spade]

EZ CLAP

[minor flame]

4-0

[bold pier]

so in total

[minor flame]

fucking hell

[tardy fog]

That was a good barrier, cancelled two ults from nyxl

[bold pier]

houstan won like 1-2 fights

[stoic crater]

the biggest rip that ever ripped

[tardy fog]

But they have 4 more ults

[minor flame]

Houston won like a total of 5 fights

[tardy fog]

So still rip

[cedar drum]

Is it mean if I call them Houston OutLULs now?

[ashen gull]

That was the most one sided game I’ve seen this season

[lavish zenith]

boink delivered at the right time tho what you on about

[minor flame]

NYXL showing their dominance rn

[bold pier]

@cedar drum stop it

[stoic crater]

#Valla commin up bois thats my team

[tardy fog]

Mayhem loss was worse

But this is close 2 nd

[cedar drum]

@bold pier Bronzeton OutLULs

[lavish zenith]

@cedar drum height of maturity

[mossy dagger]

Couldn't follow much, how are the outlaws doing?

[bold pier]

lmao

[warm quartz]

rolled and smoked my doggies

[stoic crater]

[ashen gull]

The only won 1 point, 1!

[warm quartz]

except they got rolled and smoked

[cedar drum]

@mossy dagger Ho boi

[stoic crater]

@mossy dagger they dided

[mossy dagger]

Oh well

[stoic crater]

like bad

[cedar drum]

@lavish zenith Height of throwing from Houston

[ashen gull]

4-0d and only got 1 point

[tardy fog]

Nyxl did nyxl things

[warm quartz]

will someone try to grab the mic

that is the question

[ashen gull]

And NYXL only lost 1 point

[tardy fog]

It's not throwing when you get outclassed

Pure domination

[lavish zenith]

^

[tardy fog]

Tbh

[warm quartz]

manos chuckling

oh no

[cedar drum]

This day needs to turn around

[molten skiff]

wtf they just understand english questiojns

[feral jacinth]

Why is mekos face so so shiny

[cedar drum]

Both games have bene rather one sided

[mossy dagger]

What about the Gladiators?

[tardy fog]

Nyxl have been in America for almost a year now

[molten skiff]

everyone in nyxl becoming ark

[cedar drum]

@feral jacinth Lot of Koreans are into make up I think.

[tardy fog]

Ofc they know english

[ashen gull]

@molten skiff These questions are preasked

[stoic crater]

something smug

[warm quartz]

@cedar drum No everyone gets makeup before going onstage

[feral jacinth]

Makeup doesnt make you shiny like that tho wha

[warm quartz]

doesnt matter who

@feral jacinth When you sweat a lot it can

[bold pier]

^

[feral jacinth]

Oh isea

[tardy fog]

No the owl makeuo team was laid off

[cedar drum]

@warm quartz Ofc, but u do get a say in how much.

[tardy fog]

There is no more makeup team

[lean badge]

Dragons will give them first lose.👌

[feral jacinth]

Deadass?

[north beacon]

HA. my face is shiny after sweating WITHOUT makeup

[cedar drum]

What? I think they were replaced

[tardy fog]

Yep.

[north beacon]

get on my level

[cedar drum]

The old team was laid off

[warm quartz]

There's some sort of a makeup team-it was shown in Houston's Focus series

[tardy fog]

Could be per team basis

[warm quartz]

Not a huge one but there is one

[tardy fog]

And not owl official

[ashen gull]

Tbh I can’t see another team beating NYXL

[warm quartz]

@tardy fog Soe was in the makeup chair w/ outlaws

[cedar drum]

Esports Make-up was their name....i think their contract wasn't renewed

[warm quartz]

@ashen gull toronto. mic drop

[cedar drum]

They must have someone else though

[tardy fog]

But owl itself doesn't have a makeup team as far as anyone knows

It's prob just per team

[cedar drum]

@ashen gull Paris can shit on this NYXL team, legit.

[ashen gull]

Toronto? Really?

[warm quartz]

yes

[cedar drum]

Same with Vancouver

[warm quartz]

the green and blue nightmare

WAIT

[lavish zenith]

theres a toronto team?

[tardy fog]

Toronto is not a threat to nyxl lmao

[warm quartz]

WRONG CANADIAN TEAM

HOLY SHIT

I MEANT VANCOUVER

[ashen gull]

Paris I think will be same as NYXL

[cedar drum]

@warm quartz ABORT! ABORT!

[stoic crater]

OUCH

[warm quartz]

TYPOTYPO IMGAYIMGAYIMGAY-Muma quote

i actually made that my senior quote

[minor flame]

imagine if you showed

[warm quartz]

"TYPO TYPO TYPO" 'This is real life.' "T Y P O"

[stoic crater]

AYY

[minor flame]

SHanghai higher than valiant and outlaws

to someone in s1

[cedar drum]

Valiant deserves to be higher

[ashen gull]

Atlantic teams are leading the scoreboards nice

[stoic crater]

@minor flame Valla is working on it smh

[warm quartz]

hold on

[cedar drum]

Their first showing was decent

[warm quartz]

i need that guys facd

[feral jacinth]

Atlanta is gonna be clapped next week

[stoic crater]

@cedar drum Right? tf is going on

[cedar drum]

Hopefully they'll find their footing

[tardy fog]

Shanghai is only higher due to less games

[cedar drum]

@stoic crater Bad matchups

[tardy fog]

Shanghai and Justice are 100% the bottom 2 teams rn

[ashen gull]

What do you think will be the biggest match?

[warm quartz]

1s i need this shitpost of a face

[cedar drum]

@stoic crater Inversely, I think NYXL has had really lucky matchups

[stoic crater]

Agreed

[cedar drum]

Ofc they are strong af, but they haven't faced a single other strong team.

[tardy fog]

Nyxl haven't faced Paris or Vancouver yet, so yeah they're lucky.

[lean badge]

Nah dragons wont be bottom 2 this season.

[stoic crater]

Think that trading Soon to Paris was a good idea?

[cedar drum]

I wanna see kruise slap Nyxl silly

[tardy fog]

Kruise was one of the reasons they lost last game tho

Dude is way too hungry

[ashen gull]

But kruise is why they won Dorado

Yesterday

[cedar drum]

Kruise is why they win most of their fights

[warm quartz]

https://imgur.com/a/GUIh1yM

[tardy fog]

Losing 3 >>>>>> winning one

[warm quartz]

we found seagull after retirement

[cedar drum]

Kruise is bringing some of the most advanced Lucio goats plays

[tardy fog]

Kruise got picked off first and lost them team fights 3 maps. Dont kid yourself.

Dude has been worse than last year so far

Id prefer alemao at this point

[ashen gull]

I think Paris are in a good place, they have a roster that can adapt easily to meta changes with Dayne and SDB

[molten skiff]

kruise still playing too aggresive?

[warm quartz]

ok listen that black woman has been at every match

wtf

[ashen gull]

She big fan

[warm quartz]

She must live in the area

[molten skiff]

i mean, he used to be genji manin

[ashen gull]

Leave her alone boy

[warm quartz]

OR IS IT

PAID ACTORS

sorry

[ashen gull]

I mean even if he’s aggressive his gameplay is great

[vagrant niche]

the mexican looking dude also goes to every game as well

[tardy fog]

If he dies first in teamfights multiple times he's by definition not great

[vagrant niche]

paid actors

[tardy fog]

Lucio dying first is second only to Rein dying in GOATS matchups

Dude just looks flashy

but is overextending hard

[stoic crater]

yo wtf i love his shirt

nice flowers

[ashen gull]

I mean Lucio dying first is probably the least disadvantaged loss in Goats when they are at the point

[tardy fog]

Wat

Lucio is their #1 source of healing

More than Zen and Brig

That's not even close to true

[warm quartz]

lucio means no real mobility and loss of majority of heals

[cedar drum]

All OWL Lucios in Goats seem to remain 75%+ time in Speed

Better ones are closer to 80%

[balmy wolf]

dam housin got smashed

[warm quartz]

OK THE AWAY TORONTO JERSEYS LOOK NICE

[tardy fog]

It's not about the time spent in the auras

It's about the burst healing from the beat

[cedar drum]

Oh yeah...

[tardy fog]

Which is the only real source of "oh shit we're almost done" healing

[cedar drum]

Ofc ...who else is gonna compete?

[tardy fog]

That's where most healing from GOATS is from

[cedar drum]

Zen's single target 30 Hps

[tardy fog]

Saying Lucio isn't important is stupid, period.

[cedar drum]

Lol

Lucio is like....the most important part of goats

Wtf

[karmic grotto]

[tardy fog]

Well, Rein is

But lucio is a close second

[stoic crater]

THE CITY OF ANGELS

[cedar drum]

He's the most played hero in the league right now

@tardy fog Rein is and can be replaced

Goats can exist without rein

[warm quartz]

lucio most important supp ZARYA is the most important tank

[tardy fog]

Not in Rein mirror on most maps

[upper niche]

Oof, this match feels like it'll be really important for LAV.

[ashen gull]

Custa

[tardy fog]

Winston is only meta on certain phases because of map geometry

[stoic crater]

Custa me gusta lol

[tardy fog]

You can't play Winston on KR's point B for example though

[upper niche]

It kinda feels like the match that'll give us an idea where the teams in the league sit.

[tardy fog]

So Rein becomes the most important damage + shield

[ashen gull]

Custa is chad

[warm quartz]

GLHF

[tardy fog]

Oh shit is Custa going to play

PogChamp

[ashen gull]

When they sponsor a car, when most of thier fan base will be under the age of legal driving lmao

[coarse yoke]

when you try your best but you don't succeed

[warm quartz]

@ashen gull aint that the damn truth

[upper niche]

Their W:L on maps with custa vs maps without custa is pretty stacked. I think Custa has played in what... 1 map that they've lost?

[warm quartz]

hippity hoppity give them the boppity

ALSO HELLO MOIRA

[stoic crater]

Nice

[cedar drum]

Why would they run Moira against Zen

[warm quartz]

Let me cancel .5 of an ult

[cedar drum]

Ofc Izayaki participated in all of those kills

Jeez

[stoic crater]

Holy shiet

[warm quartz]

can we talk about that insta 20% ult charge on fate

[stoic crater]

CAPP

Beautiful

[warm quartz]

we got a butt photo

you gotta give em the sassy hand on the hip

THAT SYNC RALLY

[north beacon]

Oh man the one Toronto fan

And everyone else sitting down quietly

[lean badge]

Worthy opponent.

[mint slate]

i found a bug

but i cant send the screenshot because i dont have discord perms

gr

[warm quartz]

Imgur

[mint slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/320338940315959297/549366899645874204/unknown.png

ok here

[warm quartz]

oh hello

not a bug, a feature

[mint slate]

its a lucio undercover as brig

[upper niche]

Brigs ult sound was so loud it killed Envy 😉

[balmy wolf]

ivy with these gravs

already at 50%

[north beacon]

My favorite thing as dva is jumping to reset after a fight

[balmy wolf]

nvm

[mint slate]

agiltiies is so good he can control other teammates while playing brig at the same time

[north beacon]

It’s so fun

[warm quartz]

custas dead

run like a fucker

GUYS YOU FOOLS

GO INTO SPAWN

[mint slate]

hopefully valiant wins

[balmy wolf]

ivy is almost at another grav wtf

[mint slate]

i like both teams but mostly the valiant

[warm quartz]

they keep playing like this hell no

[mint slate]

yeah they lose

rip

[hardy mauve]

Nyxl fucking murdered Houston.

Can they be arrested for it?

[stoic crater]

Ouch

[north beacon]

Let’s go TD Bank

[stoic crater]

Valla was so uncoordinated

In the end it just got messy

[lean badge]

Why valiant goats look so scattered

[molten skiff]

lawl

[warm quartz]

did someone just caw??

[molten skiff]

custa is not going out

[warm quartz]

P A U S E

wait pause or full restart

[feral jacinth]

What was that

Uh oh full restart i think they went back to lobby

[warm quartz]

didnt look good

[north beacon]

Agilities had to pee

[lean badge]

Even in pro league, this game crushes?

[warm quartz]

LOL ID BELIEVE THAT

TAKE NOTE OF THE NAMES OF THE SPECS

"admin. obssombra obszarya obsreaper obsmercy panel_right"

[north basalt]

gonna feel good for envy to beat his old team

[warm quartz]

am i allowed to say na production

in that case

[north basalt]

na production

[warm quartz]

the fact no one noticed that

[tawny sigil]

nobody use overpriced streaming box now

they just use obs

[molten skiff]

oh nice they have win stat next to team names now

[hasty yacht]

This is actually stupid

They had the fight

[warm quartz]

awe spaceee

LOOOOOL

SPACE GOT AWAY

[hasty yacht]

But restarted the map

[north basalt]

valiant has looked awful tbh

[warm quartz]

"sURPRISE BITCH IM BACK"

@hasty yacht They were on the wrong sides.

Don't be salty about it lol

[hasty yacht]

Don't tell me what to be lmao

[warm quartz]

Then dont be rude and whiny 🤷

Anyways

[lean badge]

Yeah they switched sides. First game doesnt count.

[hasty yacht]

😂

[north basalt]

custa's going to inn and out tonight

[warm quartz]

Space getting away and healing up tho

that was hilarious

[balmy wolf]

Toronto lookin nuts

[warm quartz]

Space was almost staggered but he came back with a vengence

[stoic crater]

SPACE

[warm quartz]

yeah space is getting revenge

oof fate

nomnom

[cerulean plume]

Envys revenge

[warm quartz]

nice job val

[cerulean plume]

Yikes

[stoic crater]

DUDE

[balmy wolf]

that charge tho on fate

[cerulean plume]

This is actually a surprisingly enjoyable matxh

MonkaS hack incoming

[upper niche]

oh wow and we have Titans vs Shock next...

[cerulean plume]

Yeah should be a nice one

[upper niche]

Oh I'd love to see a draw here 😄

WTF with these stats, so high and so close.

[feral jacinth]

Draw f

[frail fox]

I'm kinda pulling for the Titans.

[cerulean plume]

Same here

[upper niche]

Nah,

[cerulean plume]

Mostly because of sinatra, not because of runaway

[frail fox]

Even though Reign is my choice team.

[sharp kindle]

Skood

[feral jacinth]

OOF

[rapid bobcat]

We can still have a game 5

[pearl stratus]

"tHeReS nO dPs". Meanwhile Kariv has 30,000 damage.

[rapid bobcat]

If they draw on the assault map and la wins map 4 we get map 5

[lean badge]

I'd love to see they tie and end with 1-0

[supple prism]

what?

[woven hill]

3247

feels good

[midnight sage]

Wow, they are running behind tonight

And Houston got stomped by NYXL. That makes me sad

[pearl stratus]

I like Kuki, don't get me wrong, but I'm so glad Custa is back

[upper niche]

@midnight sage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI

[midnight sage]

Disappointed with Houston's performance this stage so far

[upper niche]

meh, they've played Toronto and NYXL, can't complain.

[midnight sage]

True, but 0-4 against NYXL 😦

[upper niche]

What did you expect?

[midnight sage]

1-3? LOL

[pearl stratus]

I mean.

At least it was 0-4 against NYXL.

[upper niche]

Houston, a team that's always been pretty much dead middle of the ladder, vs the team who have always been right upt the pointy end, won what, 3 out of 4 stages last year?

[pearl stratus]

Not like Dallas which seems to go 0-4 against every other random team.

[midnight sage]

At least they didn't lose to Shanghai

[zenith patio]

So what do you guys think of the mirror matches

we;ve been getting so far?

[midnight sage]

RIP Boston

[warm quartz]

boring but entertaining

[upper niche]

Yeah. It could be worse: you could be the team that had a 10-0 W/L record in Stage 3 then lost to the team with a 0-42 W/L record.

[zenith patio]

So the whole meta shift that Blizzard is trying to fix is not working then?

[pearl stratus]

Honestly Shanghai would have beat most teams in the league that night. They just played really well.

[zenith patio]

3 sup 3 tank

[pearl stratus]

You can go beyond that if you want.

[warm quartz]

Pretty much. rovas

[pearl stratus]

But you'd be retarded.

No one was stopping Dding.

[warm quartz]

Dding was fucking people over

[zenith patio]

Maybe instead of nerfing, Blizzard should just buff the low tiers

[pearl stratus]

Whats my favorite three letters? Said DDing to the other team.

[zenith patio]

That's how it should be in terms of balancing a fighting game

[upper niche]

Thing people haven't really realised yet is that there's no clear stand-out team except NYXL. Pretty much everyone else have had tautologies of wins.

[pearl stratus]

E. M. P.

[midnight sage]

I am enjoying the expanded number of teams this year, but growing very tired of all goats, all the time

[warm quartz]

or nerf what the community has been suggesting

[upper niche]

eg, A beats B, B berats C, but C beats A.

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, and even NYXL honestly haven't been like..

Definitive.

[upper niche]

Yeah, it's not a walkover.

[pearl stratus]

Their only definite game was Houston.

Boston they almost went to game 5 by basically... one earthshatter.

LAV brought them to 5.

[upper niche]

Yeah - I mean NYXL v LAV was 3-2. But LAV are 0-2 on W/L record.

[warm quartz]

well

rip izayaki

[pearl stratus]

Yeah but like the desk said

Both of LAV's losses are like 3-2, map 3.

It's not like they're not good, despite the record.

[warm quartz]

n o d r a w

[pearl stratus]

It's why raw map record is never something I like to look at.

[warm quartz]

Toronto wins it doesnt matter

[pearl stratus]

Hell even some 4-0's are really close games.

[upper niche]

I was gonna write a quick tool to do ladder predictions based on previous game scores - using that as a win probability - but basicaly there are still WAY too many matches left to have the procesing power to get a reasonable ladder estimate.

[midnight sage]

SHanghai number 1

[upper niche]

There's 2^38 permutations of outcomes after the end of this stage.

[pearl stratus]

Map score lacks context too, which can really hurt those sort of predictions.

Like say you get a 4-0 game.

But every map was basically the equivalent of 99:99

The tool most likely cant compute that properly.

[upper niche]

I mean with a full-time job I could write something that digs as deep as the player stats... but yeah, I'm not gonna write that ;p

[warm quartz]

FUCKING FUCK

that was a fast primal rage

[midnight sage]

Jesus, that was fast

[warm quartz]

O O F

[midnight sage]

This is why I don't like goats after awhile. You don't get a lot of standout things like that

[pearl stratus]

Thats the problem with Winston.

[upper niche]

processing power isn't actually the sole issue, it's RAM. The best you could get is just a fuzzy number.

[midnight sage]

Who's ball of death can last longer

[upper niche]

heh. yeah.

I played a game on Hanamura offense yesterday(?) where I had 4 moira ults in a single push

[pearl stratus]

Fate is too in love with the Winston on A. And its not working well against that.

[warm quartz]

thats the FOURTH coalescence

kariv

stop suiciding

fuck

[midnight sage]

RIP LAV

[feral jacinth]

Im getting atl hlc vibes

[cerulean plume]

Gg

0-3

[hasty yacht]

Valiant throwing

[warm quartz]

he had four moira ults

[upper niche]

We lack a tank ability that can block coalescence, zarya/sym beam etc... just saying 😃

Watch this space for one of the next tanks.

[warm quartz]

wait what

[pearl stratus]

I mean Moira is so rarely played its not really necessary

[warm quartz]

dps????

[midnight sage]

I think a new shield tank would be nice instead of a Wrecking Ball style tank

[warm quartz]

oh look at that

[midnight sage]

Reaperrrrrr

Wow, this comp

[warm quartz]

LOOOL

[midnight sage]

Lose in style

[warm quartz]

This is a meme

this is a throwing meme

[whole mulch]

Is this gonna be another season where NYXL destroys all season then throws final

[midnight sage]

LOL

[warm quartz]

LOL

[north beacon]

Agilities not charging ult fast enough

[midnight sage]

IZAYAKII

[warm quartz]

IZAYAKI??????

ARE YOU OK?

Izayaki channeling the heart of JJonak

[whole mulch]

Someone needs to investigate, I think Jjonak is on Izayaki's account

[midnight sage]

Izayaki just carried that

[warm quartz]

^

[midnight sage]

And done

[tawny sigil]

"they cant draw they dont have enough map"... wtf is he on about

[warm quartz]

gg

lav

ALSO SPACE GOT POTG

[feral jacinth]

Valient cant win??

[warm quartz]

FUCK YOU IZAYAKI

[vagrant niche]

Valiant dragons

[lean badge]

lol LaV

[polar pasture]

izayaki are you good

[warm quartz]

@feral jacinth nope one draw

2-0

[feral jacinth]

OHHH OK

i was confused

[warm quartz]

Mhm!

[upper niche]

Still too hard to do the numbers but this prettttty much means LAV can't make the finals, because ther'es too many head-to-head matchups in the remaining matches that even if they won all of them, would knock them below the top 8.

[balmy wolf]

who won the NYC game

I fell asleep

[whole mulch]

NY won

4-0

[balmy wolf]

YES

[midnight sage]

NYXL

[warm quartz]

bout to say what do you think

its nyxl

[midnight sage]

Is Pine still playing?

[pearl stratus]

Actually LAV should be fine, at this point it depends on HOW they win them.

[north basalt]

thats akward for valiant

[pearl stratus]

If they start going on 3-1 or 4-0 tears they could make stage finals.

Because they at least have 2 map wins in each of their losses

[cerulean plume]

Well nice to see envy get his revenge regardless

[north basalt]

yeah

deserves it

[upper niche]

Also note that LAV play Defiant Again next week.

[warm quartz]

get these fucking college commercials out of my face

[pearl stratus]

@upper niche Shanghai plays Dallas Fuel back to back.

In two weeks.

[upper niche]

@warm quartz I dont mind commercials, but having seen the same Amazon/Rebel Wilson ad about 200 times so far this season is just annoying.

[midnight sage]

I wonder if Dallas will lose both those games

[lean badge]

Fuel looks pretty strong this season.

[pearl stratus]

Fuel looks...

Bipolar.

[north basalt]

? they dont play them again next week

[upper niche]

@pearl stratus I dont understand why the hell they've done that in the scheduling, for a lot of teams. it makes not a lot of sense when you're putting people in to stage finals.

[pearl stratus]

They either play okay, or they go 0-4.

In their current maps at least they've only had one or the other.

[upper niche]

If there were no stage playoffs then sure, it doesnt make a difference the order people play other teams. But when you split it every 7 matches, it's unbalanced to have people playing people twice withi n the same block.

[midnight sage]

Kariv -_-

[pearl stratus]

Eh, I think people are just taking stages too seriously.

Individual stages matter so much less right now.

[upper niche]

@north basalt Sorry you're right, my calendar put this week at the top of the screen and I saw it as next week.

[pearl stratus]

Teams can have easier/harder stages than other people, which is fine.

[cerulean plume]

Aside from the money they're meaningless 🤔

[north basalt]

no worries, that does happen to a few teams though

[upper niche]

Yeah, stages mean $$ but nothing in terms of placement. They're basically all-star weekends with some cash reward. They might as well just be practice matches.

[pearl stratus]

I mean even with the money it shifts stage to stage.

[midnight sage]

KARIV

[pearl stratus]

LAV is in the same position of Shanghai this stage.

Their first matches were probably their hardest of any stage.

[upper niche]

What they should have done is make the stage winners like protected places for the finals.

[pearl stratus]

But people don't think about that.

Eh Im glad they didn't.

Because I wouldn't want a team to have a walk in just because they had a really easy stage for them.

[upper niche]

eg, if you win a stage, you're gauranteed a top 1-4 seed in the finals.

[pearl stratus]

There's a few teams that have REALLY easy stages.

I forget which team it was ( I want to say LAG?) but I think they play Florida twice in Stage 3 or something.

Which basically gaurantees them two relatively easy wins for 25% of their stage.

[upper niche]

Yeah... you need to balance it better I guess, and can't predict that when you do the scheduling, so maybe it's not a fantastic idea. But the point remains that stage finals are basically meaningless except for a bit of cash.

[pearl stratus]

Thats all tehy were worth in Season 1.

They're there to give the teams their stage breaks honestly, and some hype.

I think they serve their purpose just for that.

[upper niche]

I can't remember how the play-ins work, or even the proposed finals system for 2019.

[pearl stratus]

They replace STage 4.

There's no Stage 4 Finals.

Thats when they do all the play in stuff for the actual finals

[upper niche]

either way, man they were atrocious at describing the way things work in 2018. Like seriously, pull your heads out of your asses and stop using american terminology, swallow your pride and just call them an elimination final ffs.

[minor flame]

imagine showing someone in s1 that shanghai is higher than valiant

[pearl stratus]

Eh, I mean they were tied with London too.

[minor flame]

houston is dead last

[woven hill]

imagine your internet dying and losing 50sr and being suspended for 7 minutes

joy

[upper niche]

The whole "and then we re-seed" etc etc... ffs. Call it an elimination final you wankers then we all know what it's talking about without having to talk about re-seeding etc.

[pearl stratus]

Not dead last, since Houston beat Spark

So Houston is in the same boat as a bunch of others lol

[minor flame]

oh yeah

theyre 19

not 20

[pearl stratus]

Stage 1 just shows that all of our power rankings were wrong.

[minor flame]

higher than val

val is dead last

[pearl stratus]

Also as Goats keeps dropping out with the patch updates they're going to shift even more.

[upper niche]

There will be a big mid-field this year - you have what, 70 matches to spread 20 teams with a 7 game record max - a lot of those cut-off places are gonna come down to map record.

[minor flame]

think Vancouver is going to survive the meta shift?

Vancouver and Paris

[pearl stratus]

Vancouver yes.

Paris...

Ehhhhhh

[warm quartz]

vancouver 100%

[minor flame]

is Runaway also top team dive?

in contendies

[polar pasture]

runaway has been dominant in every meta since they came on the scene

[minor flame]

ah

[pearl stratus]

Yeah.

They've got 3ish years of cohesion in like every meta lol

[minor flame]

they never been split

[tight zephyr]

New meta is bad

[minor flame]

for 3 years?

new meta is passable

[pearl stratus]

They lose a person here or there

Usually for Military Service.

[woven hill]

Ah well, i lost 50sr for my internet dying, but what can you do

[vagrant niche]

blosson did no damage

wtf

[woven hill]

stil l50sr above my original

[pearl stratus]

Reaper is shit.

[vagrant niche]

Jeff with the amazing reaper buff

[pearl stratus]

Welcome to OW.

Reaper is for Plattards.

And Golds.

[warm quartz]

but reaper is op cries the silver

[minor flame]

reaper can easily assist for a win

[tight zephyr]

I want more widow in owl

[minor flame]

or just be a fucking nuisance

for your own team

[upper niche]

OWL need to get way more transparent with info and rules.

[minor flame]

yeah i want widow 1v1s that last for like 40 secs

[pearl stratus]

Playing Reaper into Goats is just not for death blossom.

[minor flame]

and be pointless missing

[tight zephyr]

I want a role que

[pearl stratus]

Death Blossom is so easy to ignore/shutdown/kill.

[upper niche]

Once again, I can't find a document that states how the playoffs will be run.

[minor flame]

until someone gets some shot on opposing widow that he cant even react

[upper niche]

eg, will the division leaders retain the seed they finish with, or will the division leaders get seeds 1 and 2.

[warm quartz]

I cant recall either from last season

[tight zephyr]

Just put fusion in the finals again. Get it over with

[warm quartz]

They have to earn the spot

and right now they have some competition

[pearl stratus]

Eh Fusion is a little fucked right now.

Because they didn't want to read rules.

[tight zephyr]

Fusion op

[pearl stratus]

So they lost Elk till Stage 2.

[warm quartz]

what happened with elk?

[tight zephyr]

Elk sucks

[pearl stratus]

They played him his two games.

[feral igloo]

Did nyxl beat Houston????

[tight zephyr]

He is trash

[warm quartz]

@feral igloo yes

[feral igloo]

Fuck yeah

[warm quartz]

its nyxl

dont bother asking

[tight zephyr]

Nyxl is bottom tier

[warm quartz]

They're top of the ranks right now

and were pretty high last season

[tight zephyr]

They bronze bro

[warm quartz]

Stop trying to start shit LOL

[feral igloo]

[pearl stratus]

Who Ogba? He's plat chat.

[warm quartz]

Deny the basic stats

LOL

ENDO

[tight zephyr]

The ny bronze

[pearl stratus]

Who the hell would take him seriously.

[warm quartz]

Platchat would endo

[pearl stratus]

He's about as dangerous as Philly right now.

I.E.

Not at all

[warm quartz]

No but, what happened with Elk endo?

[tight zephyr]

Philly fo lyfe bruh

[upper niche]

okay, found it. Division winners get seeds 1 and 2.

[pearl stratus]

Who the fuck loses to Florida.

Philly does.

[tight zephyr]

Al gore

[upper niche]

So it's possible that someone could be 5th on the ladder and elevated to 2nd seed.

[twin stag]

really liking toronto so far

[supple prism]

neat zarya climb

[pearl stratus]

@warm quartz They played him 2 games while Boombox was sick

He's on a two way.

So he can't play more till Stage 2.

[warm quartz]

OH HAHAHAHHA

[pearl stratus]

Because he played in the most recent season of Contenders as well.

Exactly what happened with Fusions.

Reading is hard.

[warm quartz]

Did Fusion just not realize

or did NONE of the teams w/ two ways not realize

[pearl stratus]

Most likely they didn't realize or they didn't give out the info properly.

[tight zephyr]

Had to play him

[pearl stratus]

Because all the other teams knew.

[tight zephyr]

But elk stinks

[pearl stratus]

Atlanta didn't sign Dogman to a two way because of it.

Apply knew on Florida.

So apparently a shit run Msifits org can explain shit to their playersbetter than Philly.

[tight zephyr]

Elk plays a terrible zen

[pearl stratus]

He's a main support.

He had to sub in because Boombox can't handle playing sick

[warm quartz]

Yep

its like asking a fish to climb a tree

[pearl stratus]

Who's stronger?

[tight zephyr]

Elk sucks so much he should play for ny bronze

[pearl stratus]

Philly or the Sniffles.

[warm quartz]

Sniffles?

oh wait

[pearl stratus]

The sniffles are stronger.

Being a philly fan has to be tough this year.