they advertised zach as a hitscan god but when got the junkrat he wasnt doing anything with him or when zach got a dps hero he was the first to die
#esports-discussion
trim shadow
frail ridge
@gaunt acorn hey, since this is an esports chat, am I allowed to advertise a twitch channel that is an esports broadcast?
trim shadow
i could write it down to rookie syndrom
frail ridge
like put in a url?
gaunt acorn
@frail ridge that depends heavily on what's being broadcast
frail ridge
ah ok
I happen to be heading to this college and Im going to join their eSports team. Northwest Christian University is a private university in Eugene OR and they have eSports and the games that they play are overwatch and league of legends. So far, I dont think they have an esports team for league of legends but they do have an overwatch team. You can check their livestreams @ www.twitch.tv/gobeacons and the schedule at www.gobeacons.com
Just to advertise some esports.
solar dagger
So 
beat 
🤔
frail ridge
yeah.
frail ridge
surprisingly.
From what I see, most teams are running 3 support and 3 tanks from which is the new meta in the league from what I have seen
trim shadow
its been meta for almost a year
young grove
!schedule spoilers
somber yewBOT
@young grove, We don't want to spoil for everyone... I've sent you a DM with the results
solar dagger
!schedule spoilers
somber yewBOT
@solar dagger, We don't want to spoil for everyone... I've sent you a DM with the results
gilded peak
I wonder but which meta has been the longest? 3-3 (GOATS) or Dive?
gaunt acorn
@gilded peak dive
dive was meta for well over a year
goats has been meta for ~8 months
gilded peak
Ah, kk. Hopefully Meta dies by 2nd Stage
gaunt acorn
we'll see
outer moth
I would love to see more shake up in the GOATS strategy. Its becoming very formulaic and I get it's effective and this is high level plays but is not very fun to watch.
trim shadow
twitch chat wasnt happy with what they were seeing lol
outer moth
Basically let's take the world league and Korean league plays but for some reason make them sloppier. I'm not saying the matchs are completely boring.
gilded peak
The strategy are almost the same for each team
You're just gonna see more DVA bombs now + Grav
outer moth
Which sucks because that use to be my teams trick lol as a Dva player I feel like I've lost a card in my hand lol it will be alright. What the league needs is something to shake up the plays.
blazing ridge
Rumors are they're putting armor on top of shields, so that might do something
supple prism
not a rumor
outer moth
I feel like they won't put that kind of a change into the middle of a league season. Maybe to the public. I was thinking me various maps or hell even a few game type changes every once in a while. Just something to force in the match changes to strategy.
supple prism
if it makes it to live, it will shortly make it to owl
they tend to apply them between stages though
modest onyx
Was symmetra used for today's matches?
outer moth
Will it really change anything though? Zen is the only character with a constant shield. Symmetra was and it was the only few interesting plays in the game. But really only effected, what a single round?
outer moth
Her shields arent constant. So the change would effect very little from what I understand.
supple prism
zarya and zen both have the same type of shield health
outer moth
It more just comes down to which weapons effect what and in which order
supple prism
im just wondering if putting armor in front of shields could allow it to block emp from taking the shield health
outer moth
That would be odd and really play with symmetra ult. I don't know if it would be a good idea but play up more that energy weapons hurt shields faster and bullets tear thought armor. This would definitely change up some character counters but it would also mean players are more likely to change characters in matches.
supple prism
nah, fire be the counter to armor, like molten core. could make ashes dynamite do it too and nerf it a bit for everything else.
trim shadow
i just hope blizzard does a full balance for most of the roster so that we can see the pros use there skills that got them to where they are instead of coping out for goats
supple prism
the skills that got them there is timing, ability use, and ult tracking
lunar narwhal
for tomorrows oppening match, uprising vs outlaws. who do you think will win the match? Why do you think that team will win? was uprisings fusions just a one time thing? or is he gonna be consistent enough to carry the team again? is outlaws going to fall under pressure after losing one map again? lmk what you guys think about the first match
sleek zephyr
I think that fusions is definitely consistent enough to carry the team. Perfect pickup for boston, if their whole team can play around the strengths then they could do rather well. Fusions is a monster 💪 🇬🇧
But, we'll see how he does in the next few matches
gaunt acorn
@lunar narwhal boston will take it
sullen berry
yeah
Boston has enough in axxiom & note duo
alemao has impressed for a first showing against NYE
hidden vault
Do we get 3 tokens for watching every match?
tepid moat
I believe so
gaunt acorn
@hidden vault no, 3 tokens per hour watched
unique dome
!schedule spoilers
somber yewBOT
@unique dome, We don't want to spoil for everyone... I've sent you a DM with the results
balmy wolf
Is decay playing against shock or does he have to wait one more match??
gaunt acorn
@hidden vault automatic unless you reside in canada or an excluded country
@balmy wolf he doesn't turn 18 until the 27th
balmy wolf
Cause surefour didn't really impress me in the match against seoul so i think shock will take this one
Will be a good match though
I just hope that dallas doesn't get stomped again and we will get a close match like in stage 1 of last season
hidden vault
But how do we actually get the 100 tokens?
gaunt acorn
@hidden vault it's random chance
hidden vault
Alrights thanks
karmic grotto
I just got alot of tokens
Ez clap
Wait a minute
I didn't receive all the tokens
??????
feral wing
lol I still find London's extremely long and pointless volskaya B flank hilarious
trim shadow
how many teams do you think owl will expand out to?
personally i wanna see tokyo and maybe pittsburgh
sleek zephyr
doubt they will do tokyo
hidden vault
More korean teams please~
eternal topaz
What is Owl, and pls dun kill me
feral wing
overwatch league
eternal topaz
Oh... right
feral wing
I would love a scandinavian team
feral wing
not yet
trim shadow
theres no midwestern teams so i think we could see like denver or maybe salt lake city become a team
feral wing
australia/oceania is a very underdeveloped region in overwatch esports
eternal topaz
:/
More reason for me to try and escape the hell called silver, I really don’t believe my skill level is that low
feral wing
well @trim shadow I personally think USA has enough teams already. Its not like America needs one team per state
maybe 1-2 more, I guess, but I would prefer if they added teams in different regions
sullen berry
@eternal topaz this is why I prefer the phrase OW League
feral wing
Again, one scandinavian team, an australian team, a couple in the iberian region maybe etc etc
sullen berry
Contenders Australia had the Melbourne Mavericks, but that's just for the Tier 2 contenders scene
if dafran can pop off and has friends with money strapped to be in the esports scene in scandinavia
hidden vault
@eternal topaz Ordinary Wizarding Levels
sullen berry
i don't see why there wouldn't be a third EU team
trim shadow
There shuld rightfully
sullen berry
Nanzer & Co. were originally looking at sweden though
feral wing
Trondheim/Stockholm/Copenhagen Ragnarok maybe?
trim shadow
Germany or even italy maybe switzerland
feral wing
scandinavia has a pretty big overwatch esports scene so i think the next location in europe should be there
sullen berry
@feral wing Bring up the Sydney Drop Bears
🐨
look at it
so feral
it could dominate an entire region
feral wing
drop bears are dangerous
sullen berry
have to wait another week to see him really pop off
this coming friday/sat (he has a chance to be on stage now after his suspension)
feral wing
im looking forward to seeing shadowburn
but i think we'll have to wait until we get a new meta i guess
because i believe soon is more comfortable on zarya than on brig and nico is just generally a better brig than shadowburn
sullen berry
if Dallas does not have a grasp of their own destiny this stage
Shanghai will get their first win to break the losing streak
only notable opponents are Chengdu Hunters
feral wing
wdym
sullen berry
Hunters have team comps that disregard the meta to wipe them out
Fuel
what do they have exactly
because if it was non-dive comps
this is their stage
rck fits in just fine
what whatever their dps is doing is not working too well
feral wing
twitch chat will go wild next week
shanghai vs boston, most likely shanghai's first win
sullen berry
axxiom/note combo
feral wing
and not to mention the fact that shanghai will probably pick up 2 more wins in week 3
sleek zephyr
boston > shanghai
feral wing
dallas and chengdu are not two very strong opponents
sullen berry
vs geguri/youngjin/gamsu
feral wing
shanghai > boston
sullen berry
they're doing the same thing charge is doing rn but better
during this stage I have to see GZ willing to stand up to HZ
feral wing
wait what, am i looking at this right?
shanghai will face dallas in week 3
and then face them again in week 4??
sullen berry
Pacific teams face off against each other twice throughout the season
sleek zephyr
Do pacific only play against other pacific teams
sullen berry
so you'll get these weird weeks where a rematch is going to happen
1 team from the opposing division
2 from a team in your division
math checks out
feral wing
oof I just took a look at the schedule of paris
havent taken the time to look at the schedules yet
analog lark
Look at Washington justice's schedule
sullen berry
10 matches from the other division
18 matches from your division
28 end of season (barring any playoffs)
feral wing
I mean they're gonna beat atlanta and washington, but other than that
wasnt it 27 matches
sleek zephyr
playing goats vs eu team LULW
feral wing
Paris might have a shot against vancouver and gladiators, but that's kinda it
but even so its highly unlikely
sullen berry
0-68 dream is still going for the ignorant hecks
feral wing
tru
are there any teams that have a very easy schedule
Paris has an extremely easy schedule for stage 2
guangzhou and chengdu, then dallas and florida
sullen berry
well now that you're reviewing the schedule
I'll need to take a look again for my thoughts looking ahead
keep in mind
the schedule gets pretty weird for stages 3 and 4
some games will be played outside of blizzard arena
Atlanta, Dallas and LA (different venue) will be hosting matches for one weekend
lunar narwhal
what are your predictions for the games? why do you pick certain teams over the other?
i am personally hung up on fusion vs reign and shock vs gladiators. we havent seen the true potential of reigns goats imo so idk how thats gonna go against fusions goats. shock looked much stronger in their match but was that because dallas was bad? can i guarantee that shock is great and is better than gladiators who had a rough first match with surefour on zarya?
hidden vault
Nope fusion
trim shadow
Uk after watching that chengdu match im convinced there a middle of the pack team
And atlanta is miles better st the goats comp then fusion
Also take into fact dafran might pull another torb pick
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
trim shadow
I believe jayne wouldve fixed the shennagins that happened with the shock
gaunt acorn
trim shadow
The dynasty are dependant on fissure and ryu to pop off
trim shadow
If zach starts seo wins
karmic grotto
soeul is just nyxl but korea
gaunt acorn
you think it's going to flip around in 2 days?
i would be extremely surprised if fuel won
gaunt acorn
mickie has been eclipsed
he pioneered brigitte, that doesn't mean he's the best still
seoul has this
trim shadow
Oge underperformed but i blame zach since he was effectivetly sandbagging the entire game
karmic grotto
I don't think we can say much about Zach from one match
trim shadow
The sad thing is most ppl blamed effect for poor zarya play when everyone underperformed
Effect was the stat leader tho
gaunt acorn
seoul just has the better roster and better coaching
and better goats
triple threat
don't see dallas winning at all
fathom acorn
Once spitfire starts playing more 4DPS comps they’ll start winning a lot
They’re goats sucks
karmic grotto
yup
Dragons went anti goats comp from start, works well
but execution can be better
alot better
fathom acorn
London can do better execution
trim shadow
Convinced paris could win the stage from what ive seen
fathom acorn
They have some of the best DPS players in the game
trim shadow
Soon? Shadownburn?
karmic grotto
but so have the other teams
trim shadow
Architecht?
fathom acorn
Once goats starts to get countered more I feel a few teams will fall off
Paris will probably be one of them
karmic grotto
their*
trim shadow
When goats gets countered Vancouver and the spark will take a dip
fathom acorn
Most predictions I’ve seen have goats heavy at the beginning but falling off pretty quick
trim shadow
Paris not so much cause i believe in shadowburn to return to his apex form
karmic grotto
shadowburn, the wannabe whoru
gaunt acorn
what a weird take
balmy wolf
seoul> fuel
gaunt acorn
you know runaway (vancouver) have played in all kinds of metas
they aren't goats one-tricks
fathom acorn
London has profit and birdring though
karmic grotto
Didn't runaway use doom goats?
balmy wolf
philly> alanta?
gaunt acorn
yes
balmy wolf
im just happy with hangzhou spark
trim shadow
Iz more vancouver doesnt have the level of god tier other teams have at the dps position
fathom acorn
They won’t lose to Shanghai
gaunt acorn
haksal and stitch?
fathom acorn
It’s Shanghai
trim shadow
Theyll loose to shanghai im sorry lol
gaunt acorn
haksal is one of the most famous dps players in overwatch lol
fathom acorn
No one is losing to Shanghai
trim shadow
Gamsu will settle down and maybe MAYBE theyre main tank will be back
gaunt acorn
i can't tell what's going on anymore
fathom acorn
Me neither
trim shadow
Ouch
fathom acorn
My moneys on Atlanta or NYXL
trim shadow
I was the 1% who believed chengdu would get the win over the charge
karmic grotto
don't underestimate the hunters
trim shadow
Theyre a multi taleneted team
karmic grotto
taleneted
trim shadow
If they have professional experience they have experience
karmic grotto
are you using phone?
trim shadow
Doesnt matter if it was a year or 2 years off
karmic grotto
xd
trim shadow
@fathom acorn im willing to bet my kidneys that atlanta makes it to the quaterfinals
fathom acorn
Dafran will personally carry them
I wish seagull stayed with Dallas just to see his crazy sym plays in OWL
Then we could get sym v torb
trim shadow
Would love to see dallas not drop xqc because blizzard was trying to blacklist him
Theyre kinda missing someone who can off tank like a god
fathom acorn
xQc is back anyway
gaunt acorn
trim shadow
🤔 i thought he was off tank
gaunt acorn
..why?
trim shadow
Winston in world cup 🤔
gaunt acorn
winston is a main tank
fathom acorn
xQc is on the gladiators
trim shadow
By definition yes
gaunt acorn
he was the main tank for most of season 1
fathom acorn
An objectively better team
trim shadow
But by kit hes just a tank who can do both
gaunt acorn
@fathom acorn legion, not glads proper
but.. winston is a main tank and is always played by main tank players
trim shadow
Xqc is backup tbf..Roar popped off even tho they lost
gaunt acorn
xqc is one of such players
fathom acorn
Still, after the bad rep he has it’s a pretty important step
flint pasture
he can only play for glad legion
trim shadow
Really -🤔
flint pasture
back up for panker
trim shadow
Still a backup then
flint pasture
so xqc prob won't play
gaunt acorn
no, not still a backup
flint pasture
unless panker has to sub in for owl
flint pasture
two different leagues
fathom acorn
Is xQc still banned from OWL?
gaunt acorn
no he was never banned
flint pasture
they are 2 way
trim shadow
Gator is on a two way contract tho
flint pasture
xqc isn't 2 way
fathom acorn
What I heard they made it sound like he was banned
trim shadow
I think he wanted out anyway
feral wing
well obviously he left
gaunt acorn
seemed like a smart move to focus on his stream
feral wing
he wasnt treated fairly either so
gaunt acorn
which he enjoys more and makes more money from
trim shadow
Why has his stream been more successful then seagulls lol
trim shadow
Its a big lul that seagull retired so that he can stream but hasnt made as much money as xqc who was dropped by the leauge
fathom acorn
I remember during one of xQcs streams he didn’t know what an acorn was
flint pasture
xqc is way more entertaining
fathom acorn
Seagull is currently taking an extended break from overwatch
trim shadow
So hes trying to be the tyler1 of overwatch?
fathom acorn
And is playing more apex
trim shadow
Everyones playing apex
feral wing
unfortunately
fathom acorn
It’s the new fortnite
feral wing
everyone just flocks over to the newest battle royale
fathom acorn
Battle royale games have gotten boring
trim shadow
Just means blizzard has to get there chit together and start trying to reel more players back to the game
feral wing
I cant wait for battle royale to die
feral wing
battle royale is so boring imo
flint pasture
to play
feral wing
the gameplay loop is just boring to play
flint pasture
legit ruins competitive gaming
fathom acorn
Can’t wait for overwatch to get a battle royale gamemode
trim shadow
You never know what activision will force blizzard todo
flint pasture
i hope ow doesn't do that
trim shadow
heros of the storm
feral wing
i guess its kinda strategy
flint pasture
i miss when proper FPS games were popular
feral wing
but i was thinking more in the area of paradox
flint pasture
or even slightly proper
trim shadow
Game was effectivetly killed by blizzard just by removing esports and leaving update devs basically
feral wing
If I could like messages, I would like that message 100000 times, harv
when people claim that battle royale games will become big esports games I just kinda laugh
flint pasture
they won't ever
feral wing
they are so luck based that its impossible to base an esport on it
flint pasture
they have no esports potential
trim shadow
Pubg tried esports and flopped
feral wing
same with fortnite
trim shadow
Fortnite esports is the dumbest thing ever
feral wing
although they are still trying
feral wing
it is
feral wing
but I like the big brawly fights where there's a lot of mind games
which is what goats v goats is a lot about
trim shadow
The quad dps gives me a chuckle but teams arent really thinking about what makes goats strong
flint pasture
i have a feeling
runaway
is gonna be one of the strongest teams
this season
like top 4
flint pasture
in this meta no
feral wing
they couldnt win contenders until all the other good teams were gone
trim shadow
Theyre good at the goats since all of contenders is goats right now
flint pasture
this meta they're gonna be rly fuckin strong
flint pasture
they're gonna still be like top 8
trim shadow
Yes
feral wing
sure they beat the world cup roster, but that was a newly put together team who were built mostly of NYXL who werent great in that meta
flint pasture
i just have that gut feeling
feral wing
i find it hilarious when people place dallas in top 10
feral wing
they were garbage last season, their roster has only gotten worse
their coaching staff is ridiculously bad
feral wing
there is no way that theyre gonna be any better
trim shadow
Aero is like overrated as fuck
feral wing
same with jayne
feral wing
he overanalyzes until the point of confusion
trim shadow
But jayne can work his magic if aero lets him
feral wing
and often comes to the wrong conclusion
flint pasture
i
feral wing
not to be rude, but please
feral wing
jayne isnt fit to coach an OWL team
trim shadow
Thats a reach
flint pasture
agreed
feral wing
have you seen him on twitter
balmy wolf
I love that dallas sucks
trim shadow
Better then houston
feral wing
he also often comes to the wrong conclusion
trim shadow
who got reversed sweeped
feral wing
dallas isnt better than houston
flint pasture
na
feral wing
yeah well at least houston won a map at all
flint pasture
keep in mind they were vs SF tho
trim shadow
Houston is easily the weakest roster
feral wing
what? how?
feral wing
it wasnt even close
trim shadow
The justice can make up for it if wizard performs his magic
flint pasture
i know it's NYXL but still
feral wing
still closer than dallas vs shock
gaunt acorn
wizard isn't performing his magic
flint pasture
i think it would be close WJ vs dallas
flint pasture
and florida too
gaunt acorn
one of the biggest flaws with washington was their coaching
flint pasture
those 3 teams
trim shadow
But wasnt it wizards coaching that got nyxl to the playoffs?
flint pasture
are gonna be dogshit in this meta
flint pasture
and surprisingly london
feral wing
well then he had a roster better than contenders level to work with
flint pasture
is gonna be shit
trim shadow
Shanghai houston florida bottom 3
flint pasture
Nah
feral wing
shanghai in bottom 3?
trim shadow
Shanghai has the roster but not the coaching
feral wing
no washington justice?
flint pasture
Shanghai is good
or average
They just got 2 top 8 teams
in their first 2 matches
feral wing
im curious, what are your power rankings? @trim shadow
trim shadow
My pre season?
feral wing
well yeah sure
flint pasture
i just know i put runaway at n1
gaunt acorn
shanghai bottom 3? lol
trim shadow
I had shock spitfire fusion dynasty and eternal in the top 5
feral wing
I had paris at #8
flint pasture
like #14 or something
i think i had boston at 20
that's before they signed half of their roster
trim shadow
My bottom 5 were mayhem houston chengdu uprising justicep
feral wing
where did you put dallas
trim shadow
And my middle of the pack were dragons reign fuel gladiators valiant defiant and titans
flint pasture
like #16
trim shadow
In pre season i believed spitfire would repeat
flint pasture
i put houston above them at like 14
trim shadow
After week 1 so far
trim shadow
Spark titans or shock will win it all
trim shadow
I had dallas around 13
flint pasture
or philli
trim shadow
Dallas it is hit or miss
flint pasture
with the addition of nenne
trim shadow
If god tier effect and mickie and oge showed up
flint pasture
NYXL are rly fuckin strong in this meta
trim shadow
dallas had a run for the playoffs
feral wing
I found my power rankings
feral wing
I can post them if you want
flint pasture
sure
trim shadow
I had like houston at 17 and i refuse to move em up
feral wing
oh im back
flint pasture
oh
feral wing
morning
flint pasture
afternoon
feral wing
let me just try sending that again and see if the results are different this time around
jk
flint pasture
nah houston are underrated
gaunt acorn
it's too long
flint pasture
tbh
gaunt acorn
less than 15 new lines is fine
trim shadow
Right now both texas boys are under performing or playing how i predicted them to play
feral wing
alright ill do 2 per line then
here we go
- Florida Mayhem 19. Chengdu Hunters
- Washington Justice 17. Dallas Fuel
- Boston Uprising 15. Guangzhou Charge
- Shanghai Dragons 13. Houston Outlaws
- Atlanta Reign 11. Toronto Defiant
- Hangzhou Spark 9. Los Angeles Valiant
- Paris Eternal 7. Vancouver Titans
- London Spitfire 5. Los Angeles Gladiators
- Seoul Dynasty 3. San Francisco Shock
- Philadelphia Fusion 1. New York Excelsior
alright im safe
again, just keep in mind that I made these before the season started so there are some odd placements like valiant above spark even though they just lost to them
trim shadow
What a mad lad u are for not putting atlanta in the top 10
A exteeme mad lad for putting houston with mid tier teams
Hangzhou will 4-0 houston every match just because there individual skill and team play are out of this world
feral wing
nyeh
i feel like people overrate them because of the pink and blue colors
and the anime reference
trim shadow
Its not even the colorsssss
Its the fact they have the colors
and theyve built a all-star team around the colors
And they have guxue and nosmitee
Did u see ria against the valiant?
flint pasture
ria is nuts
feral wing
i mean
trim shadow
He litterally makes no mistakesp
feral wing
for making the power rankings before the season even started
its not that far off
there are some odd things in there
flint pasture
i also have another gut feeling
feral wing
but i mean
flint pasture
atlanta will actually be pretty good
feral wing
yeah they will be pretty good
trim shadow
They showed there not just good at goats
feral wing
i dont think that they will make playoffs, but they might
trim shadow
they can run dps and play out of there minds
Brooo
Theyll not only make stage playoffs all 4 times
Theyll make season playoffs
feral wing
theyll win
trim shadow
They might even win a stage
feral wing
LETS GO DUUUUUDEEE
trim shadow
And i live in atlanta so im proud
feral wing
some times
when the matches get really close and a team im rooting for is playing
i literally grab my guitar and start playing thunderstruck etc to calm myself down lol
thats what happened yesterday when paris played and they were about to win route
feral wing
im debating getting the all access pass
flint pasture
i dont have it
feral wing
the problem is that Im european
trim shadow
Im not falling for that blizzard trap lol
flint pasture
but it's not that expensive tbh
feral wing
so I can only watch the saturday and sunday matches live
flint pasture
12 pound for me
feral wing
and even then I can only watch the first 2 sunday matches live
flint pasture
im from the UK so i have problems watching too
but i still watch it
thursday games may be a problem later on
that's it
feral wing
i have school tho
flint pasture
yeah so do i but tbh
feral wing
and im from norway so the games are even later for me
flint pasture
i go to bed rly fucking late every night anyway
feral wing
and also they start earlier
its so great that the matches start at 9pm cet on saturdays and sundays
last season they only started that early on saturdays and even then it still started later than 9pm i believe
trim shadow
Matches are all weekend to
feral wing
yeah
trim shadow
And seasons shorter
feral wing
this season is so much better when it comes to the scheduling for eu
i wish they could have the teams play in paris one week
that would be awesome
maybe next season
pepehands
trim shadow
Could happen
flint pasture
that's what they're planning
trim shadow
The dallas home game
flint pasture
if teams played in london
trim shadow
And atlantas
trim shadow
Could see teams play in seoul
feral wing
did you guys see how kruise roasted london before their match
flint pasture
where is it
feral wing
he said ''you guys might be called london, but im from london and i'll show you what that means''
analog lark
Kek
analog lark
Wasn't Kruise the MVP?
feral wing
i didnt have time to watch the mvp
trim shadow
Bumper called out most of the owl teams in the leauge
feral wing
he did deserve it if he got it tho
trim shadow
Saying most contenders teams are better then owl teams
feral wing
although hyp was extremely good
feral wing
he always used trans at the right time and got huge picks etc etc
trim shadow
Ready to see bumper eat his words against a team that wasnt bottom of the tree last year
karmic grotto
Titans will lose next match
feral wing
definitely
trim shadow
Against the charge?
flint pasture
i hate how koreans represent my country tbh
karmic grotto
hmm no
trim shadow
Considering how they got jebaited on nepal
feral wing
nvm
karmic grotto
against Shock
trim shadow
Ill agree
feral wing
they will lose against shock
trim shadow
No they play the charge next
feral wing
yeah sorry
trim shadow
The shock are that sunday after them
feral wing
thought they were playing shock next
trim shadow
Theyll get 4-0 by the shock
flint pasture
who
feral wing
that when shock beats vancouver
flint pasture
are we talking about
analog lark
Paris's support line is amazing
karmic grotto
or titans beat shock
flint pasture
oh vancouver
karmic grotto
we never know
trim shadow
Korea represents the owl in a nut shell
karmic grotto
titans have to prove their words
feral wing
one of their members will just say ''yeah, go back to contenders'' or something like that
feral wing
shock will win
flint pasture
4-0 guangzhou
trim shadow
Titans will 3-2 the charge
karmic grotto
unless they pull a reverse sweep
feral wing
wdym
flint pasture
toronto is gonna be pretty decent too
feral wing
toronto gets placed around high mid tier most of the time
flint pasture
tbh
gaunt acorn
because it was super sloppy
trim shadow
Toronto gets no love lol
gaunt acorn
both teams threw hard
trim shadow
Toronto is borderline mid tier
feral wing
danteh was a god on nepal
digital obsidian
i heard that SF played really wel during scrims and they are going to be the best
*well
karmic grotto
X doubt
digital obsidian
defiant is just a well rounded team
digital obsidian
defiant is the next 2018 boston uprising
digital obsidian
boston is going to choke if fusions doesn't carry
feral wing
I remember being a fan of Danteh when he played minecraft (i played minecraft too) I transitioned to overwatch at the same time as him so its fun to see him still playing professionally like that
trim shadow
Boston is gonna get walked on if aimgod and note dont pop off
flint pasture
danteh is how i knew about competitive overwatch
trim shadow
It isnt even about fusions
karmic grotto
Fusions is like jjonak of nyxl
digital obsidian
fusions is a god tho
karmic grotto
take out their strength pillar, and the team falls apart
flint pasture
fusions is my guy
feral wing
i found out through shadowburn getting picked up by philly which is why im such a shadowburn fanboy
flint pasture
representing the brits
digital obsidian
fusions works better with boston than gamsu
karmic grotto
literally
trim shadow
Bur a god can only do so much with a average healer
karmic grotto
if jjonak gets down in fight
flint pasture
gamsu is bad at rein
karmic grotto
nyxl loses teamfight
feral wing
if only paris had gotten fusions
digital obsidian
paris is still really good
karmic grotto
benbest is good too?
flint pasture
fusions > benbest
digital obsidian
^
trim shadow
Ive been a shadowburn fanboy since his genji god days
karmic grotto
Fusions on paris
trim shadow
He defined how to play genji
karmic grotto
Makes Paris practically
digital obsidian
i'm a profit fanboy
karmic grotto
Equal to nyxl
trim shadow
Hes one of the old gods like tviq
digital obsidian
london would be #1 if it wasn't for the GOATS meta
karmic grotto
well
trim shadow
who set the tone for playing heros
flint pasture
tviq LUL
feral wing
yeah but unlike tviq hes still good
flint pasture
bus driver GANG
karmic grotto
other teams would been #1 if it wasnt for dive tracer meta
digital obsidian
tviq needs to be on defiant or atlanta
trim shadow
Tviq got punked against atlanta
feral wing
tviq needs to become a full time bus driver
flint pasture
tviq is only there to drive bus
trim shadow
Well accept you in atlanta tviq where the english is good
flint pasture
fr
feral wing
lol tviq must be so lonely on florida
digital obsidian
tviq would work well with philly if you think about it
feral wing
no one can understand him
digital obsidian
tviq and carpe would be great
flint pasture
eqo is a lot better than tviq
feral wing
i just like imagining tviq and the coach sitting in one corner during lunch while the rest of the roster are joking around etc on another table
digital obsidian
lol
flint pasture
jacker thats so true innit
digital obsidian
sayaplayer is a god, he should be on a korean team like Seoul or London
maybe hangzhou
trim shadow
Tviq on the valiant?
digital obsidian
london needs better dps who can play goats
trim shadow
Sayaaplayer cant even play dps cause of the meta i dont know why he got the start
digital obsidian
mayhem's cehmistry is just garbage
tviq would work better with an english speaking team
feral wing
lol why was tviq playing
inner marten
oi
feral wing
against atlanta
flint pasture
idfk
trim shadow
So trade tviq to paris
feral wing
NO
digital obsidian
tviq should go to atlanta or defiant
flint pasture
on valiant
feral wing
tviq should go to contenders
trim shadow
Hes burnt out tbh
flint pasture
look at his last season performance
trim shadow
The mayhem had a terrible roster last year
feral wing
Im in the paris eteranl discord and no one there wants tviq, even the staff members joke about it
flint pasture
legit worse than some shanghai dps
trim shadow
Taking shots at diem lol
trim shadow
Dude flopped hard
feral wing
i was both happy and sad yesterday when paris won
it felt bittersweet because i didnt get to see shadowburn
we didnt get to see shadowburn i should say
flint pasture
he won't get starting time till meta swap
trim shadow
Maybe shadow will get his time next week
flint pasture
tbh
feral wing
me and my friend discussed it yesterday
the thing is that while shadowburn is an amazing zarya
nico is a better brig
and soon is more comfortable on the zarya than on the brig
and since shadowburn and nico have somewhat overlapping heropools
flint pasture
and soon is nuts on the zarya
feral wing
it makes sense to start nico over shadowburn in this meta
trim shadow
How in the hell soon got the start over shadowburn to begin with lol
flint pasture
don't forget to mention it
trim shadow
But they ran goats 90% of the match
flint pasture
that 10% could win the other team the match
feral wing
without soon that wouldve been a catastrophe
flint pasture
and soon's a fan favourite
feral wing
i love shadowburn to death no homo
flint pasture
what's the entertainment without soon
trim shadow
Would shadow be working on other dps outside of hitscan during the off season
feral wing
but it makes sense to start nico over him atm
feral wing
yeah
feral wing
well of course
trim shadow
I was screaming PLEASE SIT ZACH
feral wing
they shouldve gotten a real projectile
trim shadow
Dude was going through hell on that stage
Tracer lowkeys needs a base gun damage buff
feral wing
if she got that then dive might be meta again
that would be awesome
thoughts on how paris would do in a dive meta?
I mean they have soon and shadowburn so obviously the dps talent is there
but the rest?
feral wing
benbest and finnsi are more than comfortable on winston and dva
hyp and kruise can manage
I think they would do very well
trim shadow
But then effect will go godly
feral wing
dallas will still suck
trim shadow
I seen him play ashe and tracer in the off season
feral wing
effect honestly deserves a better team
trim shadow
And i believe in a dps friendly meta effect will hit his strides
Effect said he wants to at least finish the season with the fuel
So maybe jayne and aero would trade him
karmic grotto
you know what
trim shadow
A man of his talent we would fit so well on seoul
karmic grotto
Tracers gun should deal more damage to tanks
feral wing
i think dallas could do very well if they had a better coaching staff
karmic grotto
or dealing more damage to armor
trim shadow
So armor pierce
feral wing
thats an interesting idea
trim shadow
What if
trim shadow
Widow had 100% armor and shield pierce in infared sights
feral wing
i still dont understand why only ashe can explode the dynamite
like enemies should be able to shoot it out of the air
trim shadow
And widow would do more damage to shield and armor characters
So one shotting a mercy is the same as one shotting a orisa when she uses her cc immunity
@feral wing thats a heavy nerf to ashe
She would never get picked in owl
feral wing
it would make more sense from a gameplay perspective
trim shadow
Someone with dafrans tracking will shut her down
You could increase how fast her dynamite travels and add that
feral wing
i would rather have that
trim shadow
But then it would also need a flat damage buff
Bob is one of the best ults in game and to see him not getting used is sad
Even tho sombra hard counters
hollow basalt
I have a question, if i send bits during the live, can i win tokens?
sleek zephyr
No
hollow basalt
okey ty
old gale
i wish lul
pearl stratus
lots and lots and lots of things counter Bob.
He's much much much less impactful when you're not at mediocre SRs.
Even at mediocre SRs you can actually just tank Bob with Reaper.
Reapers healing outpaces Bobs damage, provided no one else hits you
trim shadow
Im talking in terms of melting supports
vagrant niche
Bumper is pretty funny 
balmy wolf
hes only useful when comboed with shatter or grav and even then
other ults do a better job
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
vagrant niche
vagrant niche
Muma was pissed the other day
so based on what we seen so far
who are the top tier main tanks?
trim shadow
Fusion fissure nosmite
trim shadow
Nosmite got at least 2 people per shatter
Compared to guxue
And bumper is a hyper aggresive tank like gator
And he basically has all his friends on his team so they can play aggresive and have perfect communication
fathom acorn
HOU will probably win
trim shadow
But not on the rein lol
Cant really say your a main tank when your rein is below average
fathom acorn
If muma chokes again
Then I’ll be sad
Not even cause I’m a HOU fan
Cause I’m not
sleek zephyr
Boston will take that match
If they have a similar performance from their first match
trim shadow
They almost took it to nyxl
warm quartz
Poor shd, getting fucked again.
trim shadow
Not starting geguri with gamsu set the tone for matxh
I was angry with shangahi lol
And next week they got boston and thats a slim chance theyll win
vagrant cargo
"slim*
pearl stratus
Wait.
Do you actually think Muma choked and the problem wasn't entire Linkzr?
You poor poor fools 😦
trim shadow
No cause link redeemed himself for hitting his widow shots and winning busan basically
pearl stratus
Oh muffin.
Linkzr is Pine. He should have been removed the second he couldn't play Widow because he's actually pretty bad fitting in on every other map.
He's too awkward for a 3:3 set up because he's a ZachaRee tier brig.
We'll most likely see majority of Danteh+Jake going forward, unless the map has a few Widow spots that cannot be nullified with 3:3.
ruby pendant
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
ruby pendant
nice there's games today
pearl stratus
Proving ground games for a few people.
ruby pendant
like who?
pearl stratus
Atlanta gets to see if they're actually good, or Florida was just that bad.
Same for Seoul vs. Dallas.
ruby pendant
oh you talking teams not idividuals
pearl stratus
Was Dallas actually a dumpster fire, or was the shock just that that good.
Or both
trim shadow
@pearl stratus i dare say atlanta has a 81% chance to win
supple prism
cant remember, kept falling asleep
trim shadow
To bad ill be working and ill miss my team play
Like i litterally go into work as atlanta starts playing
pearl stratus
I don't see Dafran winning the Zarya against Carpe.
Carpe has close to his tracking, and better bubbling.
Which should influence the 3:3 pretty heavily.
ruby pendant
if glads beat shock, does that mean shock suck?