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Anyine cliped that gamsu match?
@minor flame It's part of their beliefs to have loss posters and to respect teams after losing to them.
Runaway cando the same.
Apparently there's some people who own Unused Philadelphia Championship merch that was made just in case they'd beat London last year, but it's like super rare and I've never seen it, But I've heard some Inside Employee's got their hands on it.
slime 21-0
so are there any bookies giving odds on SHD reverse sweep here
woow
It's just amazing their marketing.
like 5000:1
Being stuck in Contenders means they're better prepped for hte current meta.
POGGERS just got a 100 owl token drop
By a huge margin.
@simple badger HOW
@dawn gull random i guess
Thats the one benefit for the new teams.
thats a really good point actually
maybe they should allow the losing team to take adderal during half time ?
at least the chinese fans have some good chinese teams to root for now
Shanghai at least isn't getting rolled.
instead of the now all korean shanghai
They have one chinese team.
gamsu gets to play monkey
surely they wont go goat
rip
he'll be improved
maybe he'll wake up
spark, charge and hunters are all chinese teams or??
christ
theyre all chinese
and chengdu are all chiense roster
Spark is Korean, Charge is Korean.
the titan's (formerly runaway) clawed their way into the OWL with the same team they had in contenders and other tourney's their team synergy is on par with the champs of the last OWL season
Chengdu actually has Chinese.
Chengdu is Chinese yeah
spark has guxue
Gamsu :(
Who has played one match of each game
Then he gets pushed back out because of comms.
HS looking like a top 5 team right now.
gamsu needs to learn how to press s
okay vancouver, you convinced me
feels like the rein that backs down first puts his team at a disadvantage
runaway is as good as a top 5 OWL team
Vancouver vs Shanghai isnt a great test but
runaway has always been great
Runaway is shutting out kids for sure
too close man
where'
Shanghai vs Fuel will be spicy
stitch in runaway
diem deserves better
what is this
Both teams in total disarray
ult usage
Lolol
this is a mess
wow ok
Shanghai isn't bad, thats just plat chat at this point.
shanghai will destroy fuel imo
The only two "bad" teams we've seen so far
based on first week games
Shanghai isnt as bad as last year yea
Are Dallas and Washington
Gamsu is a huge upgrade
also the mini story of gamsu vs his old team
I see Gamsu and to me it seems like he is feeling right now how I feel playing rein in comp, my team won't press W
Vancouver Titans is definitely a mid-top tier team
this shanghai would be decent in s1
when's fearless gonna be back
his shatter was blocked buth e has good gamesense
shanghai isnt bad " theyre 0-41
so itll be interstig
if fissure's is anythign to go by
this isn't Shanghai full power
Being a Fuel fan right now you should be on suicide watch based on that Shock match
they will be extra motivated
Hey guys
My name is Stratos
and im gonna ignore how a team changed 90% of their roster
ehh shock is thought to be top tier this season
So was London.
I still lost respect for Fuel
fuel used to have likeable people like micki and taimou playing
How they doing so far?
now they're benched and jayne
They talk a big game
Power Rankigns don't mean shit.
is being a massive cockhead on stream
But were completely shit tier yesterday
ppl forget london was a crazy emotional team
demeched in spawn
what a spawn camp
they had huge highs and huge lows
how crazy good he is
holy shitt
o.O
the playoffs just came on a high
london just seem to not have this whole goats tthing figured out, which is inexcusable for a top owl team
Runaway beat the Korean OWWC team in their exhibition match.
We knew they were going to be good.
o no
3-3 is not their specialty
niiiiiiiiiice

FADEAWAY shatter bois
how did bumber not die?
runaway, more like FADEAWAY!
bumper mvp
Slime Beat
This not going well
oh now he ded
gamsu is getting dicked holy shit
naw he did fine
Poor gamsu
And I can't think of a single team who'd beat them at it.
titans' goats is actually just so slick to watch
i knew runaway was going to be good, i was skeptical of them being super good
i am no longer skeptical of them being super good
shanghai was in a winnable state
but then the beat into bumper's shatter
just no stoppin that
Titans is playing Goats perfectly right now
i don't think this is the game you get to say they are the best 3:3 in the league
Not in 3:3.
theyre vsing shanghai guys lol
I know SHD is doing bad, but gotta respect how perfectly VT are executing goats right now.
Runaway has played -nothing- but 3:3 for 10-12 months now.
SHD isn't even doing bad.
shd might have 2nd point here bois Pog
o shit inc reverse sweep
SHD with a disconnected MT is just
For a main tank they've scrimmed with for 2-3 days?
severely outclassed
This is actually really solid.
by Runaway
And Bumper would dick on anyone.
@pearl stratus They had a game day 2 days ago.
In terms of Koreans Bumper is Fusions.
it is a pretty good point that runaway as a collective team actually got to play the meta, unlike every original team
Don't think teams scrimm on game day, don't have time.
plz cmon guys
Yeah, against Spark. Who just beat LAV.

thank you
So not even 2-3 days.
that was a nice blkock
Yeah keep in mind
haksal feeding lolololol
SHD actually was giving Spark a challenge
i almost lost 20$
Oh, I'm assuming Gamsu was there a bit earlier than the announcement.
You usually are.
@pearl stratus Nope.
but if he didnt block that one i woulda said he's fallen off
He literally woke up
that was textbook
mechanically Gamsu is good
And was told he's been traded
There's nothing overall wrong with Shanghai. It's just a hard first week for them.
well gamsu is staying with his team
team wise
And to leave
is definitely weird
that was nice to see but im just worried titans are about to roll through on attack with a 5min+ timebank here
I mean they probably will. But the point was they didn't get held.
Old dragons would have been full held.
hope shd go with something funky on point a defence. maybe an orisa high ground bunker or soemthing
Naw
They have the talent here....they just need time to practice
tbh id prefer shanghai play standard
shanghai is doing well, i like it
honestly they should've looked for a dedicated dva so geguri could play zarya
They also have easy weeks coming up from what we've seen.
i dont know why they're putting geg on her 2nd best hero
if Shanghai takes 1 map off of Runaway
I miss freekill 
shd can't risk funky strats rn
that still doesnt make sense to me
that earthshatter stun stat comparison was just painful lmao
Because you don't play three tanks.
given their circumstances
Lets look for the long ride.
they're oding it bois
is that a torby boy
torb OMEGALUL
Torb throw
yooo
Omegalol

tortb
Wait a second that isn't goats
lol
TORB ALERT TORB ALERT BEEP BEEP BEEP
EZ Clap prediction
titans non goats
oh nvm
This is an old MY Comp.
lol that's a fucking torbjorn
because shd are so outmatched in goats mirror
oh boy
I doubt it works with current Torb as well
LOL
shd is pulling a tilted plat
Torb throw
is awful
That was a comp that MY used to run a lot
oh wow
that was awful
new meta
Yep
Torb throw torb throw
their positioning is pretty awful that
smacked
😢
round
shoulda ust played 3-3 tbh
joke team
is this comp
@dawn gull you mean the throw meta? 
SD isn't comftorable with Goats tbh
yeah you're not gonna beat runaway with goats, but at least you improve your own coordination
yep
Noooo
shanghai 0-42
This round is just a throw bc of that torb
100%
the torb didnt mean throw
well noone saw this coming
the positioning was the throw
That was a game
Titans def won
He was useless the turret didnt get anything done
SHD had no chance with goats mirror
Yeah, Runaway changed their supports and positioning to deny the Widow.
Which ate the comp
Neither did torb himself
well im not sticking around for the rest of this disaster
They didnt have a chance in goats mirror, thats true
lmao great hold dragons
but at least they get practice
If Shanghai was gonna win any map, it was gonna be Busan tbh
have a good night gentlemen
time to go watch the NBA all star event
I appreciate the risk, fuck it.

Dragons aka Boosted
Shanghai either has to improve in goats to live through the season or go full out
unorthodox
time for reverse sweep bois Pog
try and change the game
It's like the point A volskaya roof strat.
When it works, it works.
When it does, rip.
But sometimes you throw it out there.
anyone knows how to get OWL tokens for free
watch stream
shanghai had to do something off the wall because a goats mirror wouldnt work in any dimension
sort of a "smells like desperation" play
is going left preferable to going right now?
Ot
it's over
in goats mirror
It's a trick play.
Dragons be like
"Let's all die instantly"
Do we have to connect our account?
Yes
lol dancing
bruh
Doo doo dragons
bruh
Dragon fans be like " we got a new player . we new" 
BUMPER
Rip Shanghai
Right now. I feel like I have to get this off my chest


Worse than Mayhem
Rofl
naw
No wait
Mayhem is fucking
We've all been shitting on Gamsu this whole time, but I have been noticing how Youngjin always died really early every single fight of Goats V Goats.
Go to Reddit with that edgyness.
fuel is worse
Mayhem had wins >:(
why you bully me
Mayhem was boring
What is wrong with dragons?
no flare
Seriously
even with wins
7 mins to hold 1 tick
they were terrible
lol
bland
Adriel let me ask you something different.
They have good capable players but this meta
Who do you think -would- beat Runaway right now?
I would assume gamsu joining really late with like no practice
Imagine having a good comp brought to you by the shanghai dragons
@karmic grotto Apparently Fearless was doing really bad
That's the better question.
So they added Gamsu less than a week ago
@karmic grotto Who do you actually think would beat Runaway in 3:3 right now.
you shit on dragons now but in the long run
No proper scrimm time with 6-8 lock main players
I'd agree on that but man
given their 3-3
"Bro where tf my turret at"
Use your Main Tank knowledge and pop off
@minor flame You're focusing on the wrong things. Until we know who he thinks would beat Runaway the entire argument is useless.
What is this for performance
0-42
big damn
Imagine setting up all over and not behind the shield
@karmic grotto it also seems they just don't have a lot of time practicing goats
Because if its no one, then the point is stupid.
YESSS
Tanks are so important
You're getting mad at a team for losing to a team that you don't think anyone would beat.

but everyone beats dragons 
why do they keep running the torb theyre getting rolled
0-42 
At least use Bastion
7 PlaYErs mEAns bETtER chAnCe gUys
If you can't play goats
dragons was never going to win this matchup. but that doesn't mean they're bad. gladiators would probably lose this matchup as well
I feel bad for Diem
The way they let Seoul dick all over them.
damn shd making this look like it would be close after 2nd map of busan
Anyone cliped that Gamsu throw charge during Geguri's dva's ult combo with Diem's grav?
And so the world record losing streak continues
Last year is last year.
Who do they play next?
London won last year.
Fuel?
Still 0-2.
Mayhem?
Vancouver were always gonna win this we were just hoping for a better game than this.
i do feel bad for diem though, hes actually pretty goofd
🤔
Vancouver has one of the most refined goats
It's why the Dragons memes are retarded.
Shanghai couldve definitely improved their performance but given their 4 day MT
its pretty awkward
"Oh no they lost to the best 3:3 team. They're garbage."
Next Dragons game is vs Boston
0-42
Dallas got rolled with SUPER on Main Tank.
I really dislike Bumper
memes are there for a reason
maybe they can get their first win
Dragons vs Boston
Shock didn't have to use a real tank.
didn't dragons lose they're main tank days before the start of the season?
Week atfter next is Chengdu and Dallas for Dragons
i think for shd they need to go all in on trying to beat fuel next
Why add one 1-2 days before League starts
put one point on the board
42 games nothing but Ls
Nah
@tender root Their first two games were against two of the best teams in the league. It's not that dramatic.
anyone who takes memes as a serious indicator most likely follows reddit meme accounts
^
Remember last time they almost won vs Mayhem and Fuel and they still chocked?
Loool
i hope it doesn't happen again
spark being good in scrims doesnt mean exactly it'll translate, but i agree, shd are looking WAY better then last season
so I got 0 tokens watching on mobile (yes im logged in) thats unfortunate
heck, they could even take a win vs Washington
they're going to pick up some series, i think they definitely romp over fuel and mayhem
They will win
it will update tomorrow
@tender root I'm talking in play. Spark also beat LAV - WITHOUT their DPS.
we'll see
I have been getting them on phone
im new to twitch can someone pls tell me how to connect acc
The team that loses to dragons will be memed
im getting tokens while logged in and watching on my android tv
thing is, how scary must be to the other teams. Nobody wants to be the one that lost to Dragons
theres a connections tab under settings
you're not the only one on their phone
stich looks like a child
baby stitch + haksal Pog
titans bringing out the bench 
Maybe its not available?
It is
It is
They added it

4 days ago
Even I can use it
It's like right by the fullscreen, clip, theater mode
How though?
Stitch is as much of a bench as like...
commentator in red is kinda cute
Effect is a bench.
haha
Except Stitch actually can play.
Oof
@gilded peak I don't have it
He's going to break down before its a thing.
Hmm, I don't see it on my phone
With how Dallas played.
I even took a screenshot
I'll see if I can find it and let you know
but honestly zach is showing worse
Zach is garbage.
Thats why.
They should have done a 2-way for him, since Contenders is his home.
Aero likes zachy zachy
@pearl stratus have we seen every character except Soldier?
zach got the effect curse
i just dont understand how bad zach was on brig
@vagrant niche We've seen Soldier too.
so we seen everybody?
Soldier was brief
despite allegedley playing brig for months in goats
If Mickie isn't played over Zach tomorrow than Fuel's basically throwing
@tender root It's not even that he was bad on Brig. It's that he was bad on Brig in the OWWC. So Aero KNEW he was bad on Brig.
And Aero didn't coach him better.
wanst aero USA coach
In six months he should not have looked the EXACT same as he did on Team USA.

Thats just shit coaching.
@tender root and he whines so much about playing brig instead of DPS as if DPS requires real skill and brig doesn't and is boring, yet he sucks on brig.
Like utter shit coaching.
ive heard zach is a favourite of aero's
Apparently only mechanical skill is 'skill'.
Aero and Jayne are overrated as fuck.
Damn Diem wont let Shanghai lose
Prove me wrong.
Positioning, game awareness and timing be damned.
smh

no mirror goats 
Dragons play -really- well when its not Goats.
But when its Goats they haven't had their comp long enough either way.
this is nice
No clue
Bumper
@cedar drum Hmm, I can't seem to find it on my phone or tablet.
I liked Bumpers shade at the entire OWL btw.
@gilded peak I am wondering if it somehow only appears if you buy the pass.
And not with trial.
Bug perhaps
Well its trial right now, so everybody should be able to use it
Yeah, that's what I am saying. Bug perhaps.
Idk, but now I am feeling like I am not crazy. It's legit not there.
who can shanghai get a W against?
In the mobile app.
Damn, wasn't expecting a Genji to do so well
@quasi vault Fuel
Honestly, most teams its looking like right now.
Probably against Florida Mayhem
Whats the score now?
am i the only one who keeps hearing the commentator say luppy?
Most likely 4-0
lol
Vancouver is going to be #1 in their division for Stage 1. Calling it now.
Dragons goats mean the need gamsu as the centre
"What's my password again?"
They basically have a special ed stage 1.
Gamsu has been playing 4 days with them AND hes inconsistent
Their only hard match will be Shock next week.
Shock gonna Fuel them
Is vancouver playing dynasty?
Shock gonna Dallas their Ass
Not in stage 1.
Damn
pharah vs widow jsut seems like a bad idea
When they play i want it to be either monte doa or wolf achilios casting the match
Stage 1 is: Guangzhou, Shock, LAV, Paris, Chengdu, Guangzhou.
Vancouver has a very easy Stage 1.
Get that apex feel back
Ehh
wtffff
Vancouver is not gonna roll teams like shock, LAV, Paris, Charge
Maybe charge. And maybe hunters
But shock, LAV, and Paris.
These teams have really good goats and better mechanically skilled players
Vancouver does so well because all their players have so much synergy and experience playing together. They aren't known for their individual mechanical skills.
It's very disconnected.
well im guessing ball does the same thing monkey did in the old comp
Talking about getting rolled
LAV will too, judging by their 3:3 versus Spark.
shd looking fucking good on this def
They have a week to shore it up
Not losing or winning, sure Vancouver will win against charge and hunters
Rolling will be hard
Haksal used to be og genji god
LAV looked really good, they had a 2-3 flaws but it's very fixable
Holy eff Stitch
2-3 major flaws

stitch
stitch POPPING OFF
Those nasty accuracy
My favorite part of Vancouver is you can tell not a lot of people watched KR Contenders.
Because thats like...
Normal Stitch on McCree.
also, in general, not a lot of people watched KR contenders
so you alreayd knew that
listen to those mccree dinks 
@pearl stratus Ofc, it's in Korean. Mostly non Korean people here in this channel.
Eh. 400% more viewers than the other Contenders.
ehhhhh
Lots of people watched it just because it was better players.
Kr contenders was in english
No 20k isn't a lot.
Wolf and achilios casted them
lets see that ult
EU/NA Contenders only really averaged 5-6k. Korea sat at like 20k
wowie
Stitch
Hacks.
nice
O M G
the old flanking mcree deadeye
oh boy oh boy
gg i guess
4-0 O O F

shanghai dragons =|
If only Diem was fast enough
They're so diverse though
Runaway are going to finish Stage 1 in first, all honesty.
ITS HIIIIIIIIIIGH WIN
But really sad, Diem is insane with Widow.
i just feel bad for diem
He's like undead but he doesnt need pocket mercy to pop off
I literally just woke up from a nap and flipped to twitch
at least Shanghai forced titans off goats
Diem better than Carpe. Carpediem
There's lots of Runaway fans in the crowd
I heard flowervin is in LA now too
Runaway won a lot of the Korean fans.
I cant watch the game
I believe Flowervin is the coach? Or am I wrong on that?

I mean in blizzard arena right now
is vancouver titans runaway?
Yes.
I wish runaway was spark instead
Shes still inr unaway
why would runaway be a chinese org lol
Yeah she and the runaway coach both still in runaway
Just for the colors
@simple badger Why would they be a Canadian org?
oof
Another coach is with titans tho
HAHA
lmao titans #1
There was boos on Paris Eternal?
They're saying soon
@cedar drum canada > china
@gilded peak no...lol 'Soooooooonnnn'
Ah, lol
Well.
French fans are seriously amazing ....I'm now a fan of Paris just cause I wanna be one of them.
Tomorrow we get to find out how real Atlanta is.
ATL vs Philly
A 2-3 for Atlanta would be absolutely amazing for them honestly
Is probably going to be Shock
atl will win
They could. They won't.
It's about as likely as Dafrans beard not looking like someone glued pubes to his face though.
Someone make him shave it.
dafran will carry
Their body to the grave
Sadly if Dafran couldn't even carry against Florida, I'm not seeing it against Philly.
he did carry vs fl tho
He was just a good player, which is perfectly fine.
Yeah
Daco would be the closest they had to carry.
dafran hard carried u guys are noobs lol
But he only played 1-2 maps
@simple badger Hopefully u r trolling.
For ur own sake.
im throwing lol
He did well, I think they're working him in slowly because one of his weaknesses in Contenders was panic ults.
For Dogman, that is.
Oh...yeah
And that doesn't work so well in OWL lol
dogman? you mean Pogman?
He was having fun on stage
I feel bad for the Gladiators.
Are token drops random?
i believe so
why she feeding them baguettes
why not?
London failed me
Now I’m very sad
It feels like they’re trying to force out goats even when they could do well with 4 dps
go in
i watched that game and it hurt
as a vancouver fan it was everything i'd hoped for
Overwatch community is gonna fucking party when Shanghai wins
for real
Also it feels like spitfire might be low tier this season
shanghai is basically a ticking time-bomb now
idk theyre not lookin good
hopefully
Yeah London’s really not looking smart
whoever loses to them will be mocked for eternity
even though shanghai is a good team now
There were so many times I just though “why are they going goats?”
hope it isnt seoul
At least NYXL is doing well
florida is probably the worst team in the league
They’re my second fav team
idk they tied a map to boston
boston?
yeah they got rid of their only korean coach
washington worst
fusions did great
yeah he was fun to watch
i don't know -- washington could be better than florida
i didnt watch them
do they play this stage?
4 dps looks stron
oh nice
stage 1 week 5
So hopefully once it does London can get back up
ooh yay
i think washington will win 2-1 (one tied map)
i want them to buff reaper just to hurt goats. make him a true tank killer
they did do that
(like now)
do it more
reaper just isn't suited for pro play
it's not his damage output it's his kit entirely
hes too good
MORE REAPER BUFFS
it relies on something you can't exploit very easily in pro play
which is positioning
teams can and will track him
he has invincibility. i'm sure they can figure out how to make him better
look at linkzr the other day
give him hogs health pool
couldn't even get close
Guard on sombra today was massive
no ty
guard was the saving grace for london
but instant
He was absolutely breaking the cocks
Ugh I’m just so frustrated
Like
JUST PLAY DPS
YOU HAD GOOD DPS MAPS
WHY GO GOATS?
meta gonna meta
They’re alright
it wasn't enough along with their veteran support line and solid tanks
They didn't adjust well, at all.
Dynasty looked really strong other than KOTH. I want to see if they keep it up
WOOOOO
SPARK WON
YESSS
IM SO HAPPY


poor shanghai dragons



is SHD cursed?
by bad management
Shanghai comes from one of the wealthiest owners
it's a shame they couldn't hire better management
Dude that owns Shanghai is literally worth 5 Trumps
15 billion dollars is quite a lot of money
he's I think the richest person invested in OWL
he's not worth that much
okay yeah
Trump is like 3b
thats a bit
or 4b
not really
trumps worth much less than he says
i dont want to get into that in this channel
but wealthy owner doesnt always equal success
Is it even confirmed that we get the owl grey skins this year?
Theres no mentioned way of earning them
believe it says on twitch
Only mentions emotes
shanghai dragons downfall was picking mustard and ketchup colors
They're colours look good cmon
no
They're the only team I have every skin for
EVERY?
Ye
how... do you get that many coins
(You buy them)
Nah, think I have like 130 team skins
Shanghai is only 29
Tho only like 85 is on one account, the rest are spread over other accounts
SO has blizzard made any policy changes this season as far as player conduct or will it be as arbitrary as lastseason?
HTF do you end up with 130 skins??
$$$
yeah
I learned the other day the team lead job I applied for and got knocked back for got made redundant 😄
Well there is one but the haven’t updated the standings
The scores are correct at least
Nvm finally updated :))
The app probably caches the data. The json data from api.overwatchleague is pretty simple and usable.
If I watch rerun will I get Owl tokens??
no 😭
Shanghai lose streak status?
0-42
No???
@lean crane No
Only live OWL
would be too easy to just AFK watch reruns 24/7 for tokens
I was afk on live and got 18 tokens
So you need to watch 34 hours of owl
Just start the stream and leave your phone alone
But make sure you disabled sleep mode
and plug the phone in to charger
yo! new member here!
@supple prism yup exactly
London spitfire
Best team in the league last year
This year almost tied with Shanghai dragons for how much they suck
Lol
At least profit is still cute as hell
best team in the playoffs last year*
i think most people would argue nyxl was the best team overall
and their record proves it
current london underperforming isn't much different from season 1
they were mediocre to bad for a good portion of the season
then a brief resurgence during playoffs
They seem to do best when under intense pressure
So hopefully they start picking up again in the next few weeks
Either way I still think NYXL or Atlanta are gonna take this season
Was seagull at the Dallas match yesterday?
There was someone in a seagull mask
And seagull merch
Who stood up when they came out
So I wasn’t sure
He left Dallas
Anyone cliped that Gamsu throw charge during Geguri's dva's ult combo with Diem's grav?
seems legit
noone's throwing shit in OWL.
If you're actually accusing players of throwing matches in a professional league, your probably don't understand the definition of what throwing is.
i was deeply sadened that jayne and the fuel got absolutely walked on
but then again the shock looked unstoppable
@trim shadow lol, is there a /s there? I loved ever minute of it.
He's spent the last 6 months running his mouth, going on how he knows better than everyhone elses predictions, criticising the plays in contenders matches which worked great over the last three days - so I thought it was hilarious to watch.
It's like... he does a full fucking stream/video criticising some contenders team for running some of the exact strats teams pulled yesterday which were out of nowhere... yeah 😉
but wasnt it like jaynes first professionally coached game?
you also gotta think of aero and the other coaches and there clashing opinions
also im not counting world cup
I dunno, he's the only one that I see constantly all over the web.
Most other coaches keep a low profile or I'm not familiar with (for that reason, really).
Jayne is like the Bill O'Reilley of OWL coaches.
they should have sat zach i feel like effects zarya wasnt to blame it was more the team not making adjustments to what the shock were doing
and jayne is basically a celebirty coach
zach played like trash
and they never subbed him out
akm was the only player on dallas fuel who looked alive
i did a hot search and jaynes previous teams were farely average to basically finishing last
