I mean.
#esports-discussion
clear crane
wait till after a month or 2
pearl stratus
Dallas looks like shit right now, lol
clear crane
wen ppl are not rusty, and teamwork improves
well dallas has always been shit
so watever to them
whole mulch
Dallas had months to practice
pearl stratus
But like right now from Night 1:
solar trout
dallas had like 1-2 really good games in season 1
pearl stratus
Everyone looked solid though London and NYXL were not secure with 3:3.
clear crane
wat has dallas done this offseason ebsides sign like 3 more hitscan players
balmy wolf
not much
pearl stratus
I honestly wasn't even mad at Youngjin for his tank play for Shanghai.
balmy wolf
Hitscan is perfect for goats
pearl stratus
Hadn't played Main tank for two years, just started scrimming it like two weeks ago.
Got some solid shatters.
clear crane
nerfing doomfist reall killed the main counter for goats
pearl stratus
Good enough for a week.
solar trout
I'm gonna have to dip before game 4 tonight, but I'm really looking forward to seeing the results
mossy locust
@solar trout shock wins nuff said
pearl stratus
He means the Chengdu Guangzhou game.
solar trout
I meant the hunters vs charge
pearl stratus
It's most likely going to be a Guangzhou win.
balmy wolf
looks like most of the expansion teams are gonna be good
cedar drum
It's a-me, Montecristo
mossy locust
wait we have one last match
pearl stratus
But I'm hoping Chengdu pulls out some shit so its entertaining.
clear crane
its crazy how thursday and fridays are gonna have me awake till 2 am lol
if i wann watch every game
inland pawn
4Head analysis
pearl stratus
@balmy wolf Most of the expansion teams seemed to have REALLY learned from S1 failures.
balmy wolf
@pearl stratus seems like it
pearl stratus
They had their infrastructures in place pretty properly.
sullen berry
Puckett's lowkey tracer cosplay reverses the score to dallas 2-0
solar trout
I like to sleep 10:30-11:00 or so, but these games starting at that time is just killer
bold garden
Fuel getting rolled
cedar drum
Only way Dallas will have map wins if by a production mishap on the screen
sullen berry
Fuel looking pretty woke to me, Production
balmy wolf
They should buff reaper to counter goats. That what I want
sullen berry
That ain't nomy
balmy wolf
SF seems to be a overall top 5 team already
frozen perch
the chat's spamming jeff; what happeneed
serene tendon
the song
feral jacinth
Song
kindred schooner
Chat always spams Jeff
serene tendon
it sounds like jeff
clear crane
the song just sounds like its saying JEFF JEFF JEFF
balmy wolf
The song says Jeff Jeff
clear crane
its twitch chat dont read into it lol
pearl stratus
Honestly they just need to nerf heal stacking.
sullen berry
🤖 JEFF JEFF
pearl stratus
Make supports do less healing when there's more than two of them.
mossy locust
I love the memes twitch makes
pearl stratus
And just call it a fucking day.
cedar drum
Anyone else find it funny how much Zacharee memes and whines about having to play brig
And he's so bad at it
LUL
clear crane
zach needs to go back to FU
balmy wolf
Nah buff reaper.
pearl stratus
I mean he's bad at it because he hates it.
sand pond
anyone know where Bren and Sideshow have been?
mossy locust
bad at brig 
balmy wolf
zach just a meh hitscan and that's it
pearl stratus
But its why you shouldn't pick him up.
sullen berry
this clip didn't make much sense after the EMP, but in a nutshell this is what I'm looking out for next match
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlindingHelplessMacaroniBCWarrior
pearl stratus
@sand pond England.
balmy wolf
Make really counter goats
sand pond
@pearl stratus thank you
pearl stratus
They'll probably be around next week, iirc.
clear crane
Reaper is too slow to be that viable
cedar drum
Watch Dallas live?
clear crane
once hes outta position hes as good as dead
balmy wolf
that dallas watch party must be having a fun time
sullen berry
if you bought tickets, you should read what was included with your purchase
short vault
i hate this map so much
clear crane
time for space fight!
mossy locust
I hate 2cp in general
whole mulch
Is Mickie still on fuel?
balmy wolf
yes
clear crane
yes
sullen berry
@balmy wolf they are embracing a losing streak
pearl stratus
Hahaha.
whole mulch
Wasn't he known for his brig play
short vault
no
sullen berry
!players fuel
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
pearl stratus
Dallas next match is against Seoul.
clear crane
take zacheree out wtf
pearl stratus
That's,.... going to be interesting.
clear crane
Seoul gonna roll them
bold garden
zach fuckin sucks lmao
clear crane
architech on genji
balmy wolf
Seoul looked awesome other than trolling on koth
clear crane
top 5 genji imo
clear crane
how long is he gonna take to charge it 🤔
pearl stratus
Oh thats weird as fuck.
Week 3 is Dallas vs. Shanghai.
Week 4 is Dallas vs. Shanghai.
mossy locust
oof
balmy wolf
They’re both gonna win 0 games those weeks
sullen berry
"Architect has built so little ult charge"
balmy wolf
5 maps 5 draws
sullen berry
it's the little things I have to notice to enjoy this match
short vault
hell yeah
mossy locust
Diem just looks better than DF's dps players
clear crane
Carpe Diemmmm
pearl stratus
Diem looks better than a lot of DPS players tbf.
short vault
??
sullen berry
@pearl stratus not the weirdest double matchups all stage but yes
cedar drum
Get this kid off Junk....shouldn't be allowed to disrespect Seagull's junk skin
pearl stratus
It's that its back to back.
Dallas has no other matches.
They play Shangfhai.
Then 6 days later.
bold garden
oge??
pearl stratus
They play SDhanghai
clear crane
shock bout to roll this
short vault
hugeee
bold garden
fuel suckkk
solar trout
pearl stratus
They're not even swapping Smurf back in.
feral jacinth
balmy wolf
bye fuel 👋
short vault
is zach that bad?
pearl stratus
"Here. Play our NA people. You aren't worth of our Koreans"
balmy wolf
yes ever since the WC
whole mulch
He's supposed to be a decent DPS but
pearl stratus
I blame it on Aero being overrated, imo.
whole mulch
his brig is awful right now
pearl stratus
People love to pretend Aero is this genius coach.
balmy wolf
Well, bed time. I’ll watch the replay tomorrow. Can sleep well knowing Dallas still sucks
bold garden
Zach hasn't done anything
pearl stratus
But his coaching in the World Cup had the same weaknesses.
And he hasn't fixed it.
bold garden
effect looks bad too
sullen berry
@balmy wolf night saucen
cedar drum
@balmy wolf Dallas V Fuel, neither wins.
tired anvil
its so... underwhelming
balmy wolf
u know for being a 2 time contenders champion, u think you improve over time, but nope
pearl stratus
And he picked up Zach because he "Liked working with him at the OWWC"
So he probably should have you know.
bold garden
OGE looks like the only one doing anything
balmy wolf
^
whole mulch
I feel bad for Fuel
short vault
effect tracer
balmy wolf
and supports
pearl stratus
Ooh
balmy wolf
elk and alarm are scary
pearl stratus
Another day of AAP.
whole mulch
Holy shit Fasty you're alive
bold garden
supports are doing good
pearl stratus
Alarm is Korean, he's part of the Korean carry.
short vault
i am :)
mossy locust
tracer against goats 
short vault
did u change ur name or something
whole mulch
I'm Salty
bold garden
effect keeps forcing tracer against goats
whole mulch
Hiya
clear crane
short vault
who u rooting for this time
clear crane
sint aero their head coach
pearl stratus
I feel like Aero doesn't actually understand 3:3.
whole mulch
@short vault I don't like Sinatraa.
pearl stratus
USA was vastly underprepared for it in the World Cup.
whole mulch
So Dallas
clear crane
aero doesnt seem tat good of a coach lol
pearl stratus
And they don't seem prepared for it here.
short vault
just call him an alien
bold garden
probably cause you're bad
short vault
did u see the thing between him and kephrii
whole mulch
Yes
balmy wolf
Aero failed as a coach when the WC happen
short vault
still same old sina
whole mulch
lul
mossy locust
@short vault what happened
bold garden
sina 👽🖖
whole mulch
Yeah I saw it
balmy wolf
oof
mossy locust
sinatraa is an overpaid player
short vault
hes just dumb
bold garden
koreans reportedly get paid so much more
clear crane
wow couldnt kill super lmfao
bold garden
super isn't looking too hot imo
whole mulch
Sinatraa himself has said he's not the highest paid in the league
short vault
yeah
clear crane
its prob decay now
short vault
its just hes so young
balmy wolf
300k jfc
bold garden
i heard seagull got like 250k
clear crane
also player sshud not sign for more den 1 year deals
the amount the salary will jump each year is crazy
whole mulch
Seagull was benched most of the time so
bold garden
overwatch might not be a thing next year though
clear crane
and the majority will be underpaids
it might not be
but from wat it looks like it will be
balmy wolf
well its the opening week
bold garden
taking a risk signing for just one
mossy locust
oh look fuel being beat back
clear crane
the league makes so much moeny
clear crane
compare to the salary paid?
bold garden
sponsorships
pearl stratus
For a two year contract.
plucky patrol
Holy
clear crane
sponsorships and deals
bold garden
massive viewership
whole mulch
That's not that much money.
balmy wolf
@plucky patrol to get in as a team, it's like 60 mill I think
pearl stratus
It's not, but thats just for them to STREAM it.
short vault
wtf am i looking at
clear crane
the owners "only paid" 20 mil to own a team
forest raven
Franchising, marketing, merchandise, sponsorships
pearl stratus
Then you have it being on ESPN3 now, Toyota, Coke, TMobile, Sour Patch Kids, etc.
mossy locust
effect just fucked up a grav
forest raven
Coca Cola, the biggest brand on the planet is a sponsor of OWL
mossy locust
hit a pillar on 2nd point
pearl stratus
Season 2 paid more.
plucky patrol
Do you guys thing viewership is going to stay so high throughout the season or drop to like 60-70k
whole mulch
It's 40m+ now
pearl stratus
Franchising always increases as the risk decreases.
clear crane
and why it wont die next year
pearl stratus
@plucky patrol On twitch it will drop.
Because Twitch is a shit viewing experience.
You only run twitch for tokens.
plucky patrol
LOL
pearl stratus
The stream quality is so much better on other sites.
Or you watch it on ESPN, etc.
plucky patrol
Wait really
clear crane
ye twitch quality is pretty bad
pearl stratus
Yeah.
plucky patrol
how is it better quality
plucky patrol
Does anyone know how many viewers they get with all the sites combined
bold garden
oge is a god
pearl stratus
Too much bandwidth across the entire site.
pearl stratus
No, because there's tons of them.
Bilibili, MLG, ESPN, Blizzard directly, in game client.
Blizzard probably knows.
But they haven't shared it.
Not to mention all the chinese sites now.
plucky patrol
ooh wow I thought it was only twitch and disney xd
pearl stratus
Since there's 4 chinese teams in the league.
Well technically Disney = ESPN.
Since the mouse owns ESPN.
plucky patrol
what dont they own
pearl stratus
If you want the real picture for it.
forest raven
pearl stratus
quasi stump
THE SYM CHEESE LUUUUUUL
forest raven
Dallas
whole mulch
Symmetra OP
pearl stratus
Thats all of disneys shit, in the shape of mickie mouse 😛
mossy locust
UUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh C9
plucky patrol
nerf shock
forest raven
Dallas garbo
inland pawn
Dallas Dragons PogU
short vault
theyre tilted
pearl stratus
...
short vault
asf
pearl stratus
Did Shock just pull some playground quick play bullshit?
And completely punk Dallas./
plucky patrol
oof and Jayne was bragging at how good they were gonna be
balmy wolf
GG 
pearl stratus
I mean Jayne is overrated as fuck.
plucky patrol
Kinda feel bad but happy at the same point
whole mulch
No offense but Jayne isn't a great coach OR player
plucky patrol
Him flexing about their scrim results was annoying af
pearl stratus
The rest, I could take or leave.
whole mulch
Who did dallas scrim vs anyways
pearl stratus
Uh
whole mulch
Like OD teams or something
plucky patrol
dont they scrim everone?
pearl stratus
You'd have to go through the weeks and find who they don't play
Thats what most teams did.
forest wharf
all shd all the time
pearl stratus
Like London and NYXL scrimmed.
Since they never play each other in the regular season
plucky patrol
Oh thats actually really smart. I thought they just scrimmed whoever they wanted
plucky patrol
I know so much less than I thought I knew about OWL
pearl stratus
Or at least they don't till late Stage 4.
feral jacinth
Akm over affect
pearl stratus
I mean I think it'd be safe to scrim anyone who you don't play that stage or the next stage.
feral jacinth
plucky patrol
I wonder if effect went to Korea yet
ruby pendant
lol effect hasn't been traded yet
ruby pendant
thought he didn't like the team
pearl stratus
Same issue as Logix.\
ruby pendant
oh
forest wharf
akm genji coming in
plucky patrol
effect can be very good though
pearl stratus
You have a player who you know couldn't make it through the first stage, and disappeared for an entire stage.
Thats a lot of risk to put money into.
Not worth it.
At least from an investment perspective.
Too much risk.
plucky patrol
Also, did these matches run this long last year?
mossy locust
taimou, mickie, and harryhook saw no play
plucky patrol
They seem to be running super long this year
whole mulch
Bring KyKy back ;-;
plucky patrol
oh thats right
vagrant niche
how do you type the phone?
pearl stratus
And these games have been going long.
feral jacinth
Tfw final match was supposed to be 35 minutes ago
pearl stratus
If everything was the length of Atlanta vs. Florida they'd be on schedule.
solar trout
I'm drawing conclusions...DF worst team shown so far
pearl stratus
But Houston vs. Toronto was long af.
feral jacinth
^ good match
mossy locust
I just want krillin to play a game for london, twitch chat would have a field day with him
pearl stratus
I'm saying Dallas isn't great, but I don't want to say they're the worst.
plucky patrol
what about florida
pearl stratus
Because I want to see Shock play other people.
plucky patrol
they got 4-0d
solar trout
florida put up a fight
pearl stratus
Before I come to an agreement on Dallas is really bad, or Shock is just that good.
plucky patrol
tru
pearl stratus
Because it could just be that Shock is just that good.
proud sky
pearl stratus
So Dallas actually might be a decent team, getting pub stomped.
forest wharf
florida got a participation medal
pearl stratus
They may not have had anyone else scrim on Brig.
azure harbor
I mean, Dallas is the most stable team in the league
plucky patrol
it feels like this is a NYXL vs SHD from last year
pearl stratus
Typically your hit scan people scrim Zarya.
pearl stratus
So AKM most likely would be Zarya not Brig.
ruby pendant
should try to make these games earlier
pearl stratus
Hard to.
If it goes too early you lose the west coast for your starter games.
It already starts at 4PM for the west coast.
cedar drum
You guys think they should fine Fuel for playing so bad?
pearl stratus
Which is where your physical crowd is.
cedar drum
They lost like 30K viewers because Fuel is paying so bad
feral jacinth
I go home to owl
ruby pendant
understandable
mossy locust
@cedar drum yep
cedar drum
And match is boring
pearl stratus
Tomorrow will be the real test of the schedule though.
plucky patrol
Dallas is definitely sandbagging
forest wharf
thats why sat and sunday start a lot earlier
pearl stratus
So don't miss the first games with the schedule shift.
cedar drum
As an Asian, that's awesome
solar trout
At least atlanta vs florida was super fun to watch
cedar drum
Early game s
solar trout
this match though...
mossy locust
zach xsomehow dies as brig to a dva bomb
plucky patrol
can they just call it
pearl stratus
Probably jumped.
plucky patrol
get the next game started
cedar drum
Zach is masters lvl player
feral jacinth
Oh i have go wake up at 12pm
cedar drum
Lul
feral jacinth
Sad
pearl stratus
I shit you not Brig is not allowed to jump if there's a D'va bomb.
You die to it every time.
Even with your shield up.
Because it loses contact with the floor so the bomb technically goes under the shield.
Same with shatters.
plucky patrol
I wish ana was meta. I love playing/watching her gameplay
forest wharf
was not expecting super to start over smurf tbh
pearl stratus
He didn't.
Smurf played Game 1.
Then they just put Super and Sinatraa in because hte game was boring.
forest wharf
ah missed the first map
ruby pendant
lol
tired anvil
actually 1 hp
azure harbor
Super
plucky patrol
There should be an Overwatch League Viewer, similar to world cup viewer
gaunt acorn
@plucky patrol it's planned
cedar drum
Wtffff
short vault
lol that shield
azure harbor
a little bit too late to start playing
cedar drum
@gaunt acorn Where is this info from?
From that site update they did recently which mentioned a viewer?
pearl stratus
They mentioned it with the World Cup Viewer.
cedar drum
You think they'll make OWWC viewer but with ads ?
pearl stratus
But it has no ETA.
So its just in production.
Also I bet they have a non-compete with Twitch as part of the 90 million Contract.
solar trout
sleepy on 15 kill streak
pearl stratus
Or at least they should.
cedar drum
They never mentioned a League viewer with OWWC viewer
pearl stratus
Where they won't put out a competing product to the AAP.
cedar drum
They just said they'll use this tech for a lot of stuff in future
Yeah, that's what I have been saying every time I see someone on reddit asking for a OWL viewer
No way twitch allows something like that
They paid 90M
wild willow
LETS GO SHOCK
feral jacinth
100 tokens
wild willow
LETS GO SHOCK
feral jacinth
im at 133
mossy locust
@feral jacinth IIRC they randomly give outt 100 tokens at times
feral jacinth
Im so confused but danke
gaunt acorn
@cedar drum the fact that world cup viewer was a prototype for owl viewer
light quarry
I got it once last season
feral jacinth
nut nut nut
gaunt acorn
and that the token drops mention in-game viewing
feral jacinth
time for me to buy skins after this stream
gaunt acorn
cedar drum
Up down left and right
At least for this year
Till the current twitch contract is still on
mossy locust
so when is the next game going to start, they've been doing joke games for the last hour
cedar drum
Btw.....I have been getting tokens for watching
short vault
oh no bby what is u doing
feral jacinth
O h
supple prism
vpn?
cedar drum
Nope
worn falcon
Poor Dallas
worn falcon
There is like no follow ups
cedar drum
India is the country btw ....not on the list
We don't even have Twitch prime with Amazon prime here
They killed something
Pog
feral jacinth
Yeah
cedar drum
Yeah
worn falcon
Is already 11:21 pm here
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
short vault
11:21 where my cst homies at
quasi stump
five matches a day is insane
feral jacinth
9:20pm
candid cedar
EST BBY
whole mulch
EST <3
quasi stump
four matches a day is insane *
light quarry
Houston vs Toronto was so long
mental cliff
Remember how graviton surge is supposed to be a hard ult to charge?
light quarry
it was deadass a 2 hour game
short vault
aah
quasi stump
at least this match was quick
worn falcon
Just make the matches bo3 instead bo5
feral jacinth
Such a good match tho
quasi stump
they're not bo5 though
it's four matches no matter what, a 5th if there's a tie
that's different from bo5
mental cliff
Yeah but if you do best of 3 then you can’t rotate all game modes
quasi stump
if it were bo5 they would end it at 3 wins
whole mulch
The victory is guaranteed at 3 wins.
forest wharf
4-0verwatch
mental cliff
GG fuel, ride the wave
cedar drum
It's not 3 and 5
worn falcon
What a mess from fuel
whole mulch
They just have the 4th game for map score
gilded peak
Seems like Dallas hasn't changed much either
worn falcon
Burn blue
balmy wolf
ez clap
cedar drum
Because that makes timings every uneven
mossy locust
Its finally over
wild willow
WOOOOOOO
vagrant niche
pretty bad
gilded peak
1 more game?
forest wharf
that dumpster fire is burning blue
wild willow
LETS GO SHOCK! LETS GO SHOCK!
worn falcon
It's was like beating a dead horse
cedar drum
Some days they can go 3 maps every match and some days 5 every match
worn falcon
Even SHD was better
wild willow
4-0! 4-0! LETS GO SHOCK
forest wharf
even shanghai got a map
cedar drum
That's why they locked it 4 minimum
vagrant niche
i'm going to bed, not going to watch the china teams, good luck to them tho
balmy wolf
shanghai fuel
vagrant niche
let me know if any of them is worst than fuel
gilded peak
China vs Korea now
cedar drum
Fuel should be fined for playing this bad
gilded peak
Charge shouldn't havve problem beating Panda team
worn falcon
feelsxqc man
light quarry
Fuel's subs have been notoriously terrible
balmy wolf
fuel lose 4-0 
cedar drum
Tier C tank OMEGASUPERLUL
vast geode
How did dallas fuck up so hard again
worn falcon
Zacharee on junkrat
light quarry
so..
feral jacinth
Did
worn falcon
cedar drum
They are gonna blame something
cedar drum
Aero
feral jacinth
WE ARE THE BAY NOT FUCKING NO CAL
feral jacinth
Lmao
solar trout
san francisco more like san poopcisco
feral jacinth
I love san francisco
light quarry
Im pretty sure everyone who isnt in California think that anything not LA is North
cedar drum
This was the first ladder game like game
light quarry
Myself included.
cedar drum
GM team versus Masters team
feral jacinth
And true san francisco smells like poop
cedar drum
LUL
light quarry
but agreed, Its more Mid California
half hollow
lament dagger
"with the help of twitch prime,I was able to pop off" Dafran-2019
whole mulch
who plays next
vast geode
So SF vs ATL when
lament dagger
spark vs hunters
worn falcon
@whole mulch china teams
feral jacinth
People in cal (with common sense) say La is so cal, Sf is the bay, and Sacramento is nor cal
vast geode
Both are technically top teams
cedar drum
Omg....chat is spamming Jayne's tweet as copy pasta. Hahaha
vast geode
By map diff
cedar drum
Hahahahaha
solar trout
I'm not convinced shock is even that good, fuel was just that bad.
I'd like to see how shock does against other teams
mossy locust
yes
whole mulch
thats playing
solar trout
hunters is the only all chinese player team.
whole mulch
Idk what Cuyo means by China teams
whole mulch
Oh
solar trout
Spark, Charge, Dragons, Hunters are all china teams
quasi stump
shanghai was yesterday
solar trout
but 3/4 china teams are koreans
tired anvil
Their HLC map was so... weird.
solar trout
SHD looked good.
tired anvil
fun to watch though
tired anvil
Dallas has Effect and Closer don't they?
mossy locust
just buy koreans 
worn falcon
*then
feral jacinth
Sunday is SEO vs DAL
light quarry
what was jayne's tweet everyones mentioning
cedar drum
Jayne should quit this trash team
solar trout
There's a reason I like outlaws
light quarry
He must've deleted it
cedar drum
His twitch channel is much more successful than Fuel every will be
feral jacinth
mossy locust
mossy locust
Its twitch chat
cedar drum
@light quarry Whenever I see power rankings I silently chuckle to myself thinking of previous day's scrimm results.
Something like that.
feral jacinth
Literally at an hour delay
mossy locust
dont try to reason with it @vast geode
light quarry
LMAO
feral jacinth
For final match
young grove
"Every time I see a new power ranking I just think back to the scrims from the day before and quietly chuckle to myself. This is going to be an exciting season :)"
light quarry
he deleted it then
ashen umbra
The only thing you need to know Shock is good was to watch Shock play. Clean engages, ult discipline, confidence in their main tank, quick disengages and rengages, min-maxing cart time and ultimate charge. It would be clear if they were playing S1 Dragons.
cedar drum
@vast geode They deserve it, we cheer them on every time and they almost always disappoint.
vast geode
Aero has a lot to talk to them about then
short vault
how'd nyxl play yesterday? i missed it
hidden vault
@solar trout and that is?
tired anvil
not goats
mossy locust
most of the coaches aren't exactly great players
tired anvil
which was fun to watch.
mossy locust
so why are they coaching
mossy locust
thats my question
tired anvil
no.
ashen umbra
Mano has a lot of work to do if NYXL is going to win this season.
vast geode
No
cedar drum
They lost like 40-50K viewers because of that game
vast geode
It was Nenne and Libero
short vault
no pine no watch
tired anvil
Meko did go Sombra and was very effective
mossy locust
Nenne is a good addition to NYXL
vast geode
Chinese chat
mossy locust
thank god janus got the boot
worn falcon
I'm still in awe with birding's zarya
vast geode
Still couldnt save London
worn falcon
I know 
mossy locust
well, one of the GZ's players looks lke a fatter jake paul
vast geode
Is London's performance curve over this season be a steep parabolic curve again? 
light quarry
how many times do we have to say that coaching and playing arent the same thing
mossy locust
that distubs me for some reason
light quarry
how many football coaches are good at football?
cedar drum
Hopefully this game is more entertaining
worn falcon
Chengdu is full Chinese I guess?
vast geode
Yeh nah
hidden vault
If dallas was so bad they did so well in stage 4 season 1
vast geode
I dunno
mossy locust
brig
vast geode
TriHard 7 TriHard 7
cedar drum
Is Kyb the only black player in the league?
worn falcon
Kyb like tviq lol
light quarry
I think the meta is just trash tbh
cedar drum
Like no homo
light quarry
It really limits some teams potential
cedar drum
But by god
vast geode
Black players with Euro nationalities? 
light quarry
like some teams are just better than others by default because this meta is so limited
feral jacinth
21 Savage would be triggered by that sentence @vast geode
mossy locust
dps players have been gutted
light quarry
I feel like Dallas have potential to be better.
like a ton.
But the meta wasnt the only thing hurting them
vast geode
So Dallas is rly meta dependant?
feral jacinth
I hope they dont go goats
light quarry
Their subs and decisions to not play some players were really bad.
mossy locust
need to kick a few dps players off
feral jacinth
YES CHARGE
light quarry
Zach didnt need to be played
mossy locust
and get some better players
light quarry
Mickie needed to be on DVa
feral jacinth
Yes
ruby pendant
@cedar drum too late
vast geode
Yikes Chengdu
light quarry
Since he's mainly a Tracer.
lucid ermine
Effect was on zarya i suppose?
vast geode
Where was the follow up after the hamster?
light quarry
"Every time I see a new power ranking I just think back to the scrims from the day before and quietly chuckle to myself. This is going to be an exciting season :)"
inland pawn
Roadhog PogU
vast geode
But muh scrimbucks
whole mulch
I'd assume thye practiced goats
quasi stump
interesting comp
light quarry
It depends who they scrimmed against tbh
clear crane
o i forgot the pokemon is on chengdu
feral jacinth
ROADHOG
light quarry
if they were scrimming like Florida or something, I'd take their scrims with a huge grain of salt
vast geode
Hotba
feral jacinth
All we missin now is junk
worn falcon
We had junk
vast geode
Doomfist?
worn falcon
Zacharee
cedar drum
Man, GC's skins and outlines look cool as all heck.
worn falcon
light quarry
Junk was played on Seoul the other day
feral jacinth
Oh ok all we missin is doom
worn falcon
Yes
feral jacinth
Doom
vast geode
I want more doomfist
light quarry
on Route 66
light quarry
I specifically remember because they ran Junk and Ashe with Pharmercy
it was explosions everywhere
I really like watching Busan
as with all Control Maps
vast geode
Is this match the Chinese meta?
feral jacinth
Guess so
vast geode
This is pretty good
light quarry
Guangzhou tracer had so high sensitivity, I thought my quality dropped
cedar drum
Chengdu likes to play a lot of DPS from what I saw of scrimm rumours
vast geode
Can't get countered if your opponent doesn't know what kind of comp your running 
clear crane
chengdu with the weird goats
cedar drum
Like, they just don't play regular goats
feral jacinth
“Goats but with the wrong tanks” meta
light quarry
I'm gonna root for Chengdu because I like Pandas
quasi stump
this map is exciting so far
mossy locust
tf is tha comp though
vast geode
That was actually pretty close
balmy wolf
lmao fuel got clapped
balmy wolf
yes
mossy locust
@balmy wolf Thats not a good enough word for it
vast geode
Cursed brand
mossy locust
steamrolled isn't even right
vast geode
Rascal wasn't even relavent in Dallas
balmy wolf
true
vast geode
And I wouldn't say that Dallas got carried by Seagull
vast geode
xQc was just being a toxic meme
Hotba kinda seems meh on Tracer
Id attribute it to good teamwork
frozen perch
is that roadhog
vast geode
Yes
light quarry
iirc wasn't there drama behind the scenes with Rascal and fuel
frozen perch
so all 29 heroes have been used?
sullen berry
or one smol hamster
balmy wolf
no goats tho
mossy locust
@frozen perch not doomfist or soldier
feral jacinth
Soilder was picked for like 2 secs but never used
vast geode
Big brain DVa bomb removes hamster minefield
balmy wolf
lmao this 3 3 thing is so annoying
light quarry
^
its so repetitive and limiting for some teams
even if some teams are running DPS
Its still not majority of the games
reef imp
So, how are you guys feeling about these two new teams after this?
gilded peak
Charge is good, but I never knew Hotba was a DPS? I thought he was a tank main
feral jacinth
well one is going dps and another is off goats aka “i know goats is three tanks but dunno which tanks”
mossy locust
he did play tracer a bit on philly
gilded peak
But this one map is hard to say. Have to see how they do in the next 2 maps
balmy wolf
kinda
gilded peak
They really should do these games earlier.
balmy wolf
wasent jake in for like a round
balmy wolf
then the holy c9 on numbani
earnest canopy
Hotba is lowkey a boss
torpid charm
I KNOW, I LOVE IT
sullen berry
🅱otba
unkempt flame
sf shock beat dallas fuel 4-0
torpid charm
Me in Philly match discussion rn: “I love Charge. I love Charge. I love Charge.” They’re doing well!
gaunt acorn
i like charge but i hope chengdu plays baconjack
gilded peak
Didn't watch the match but how was Dallas?
torpid charm
Okay true, Dray
gilded peak
Did they pick up anybody good?
torpid charm
Dallas 
balmy wolf
yeah people are whining about benched baconjack
sullen berry
@gaunt acorn no bacon without baconjeck and garry?
unkempt flame
Dallas failed
wild willow
Dallas was shit
unkempt flame
some how
supple prism
oh wow
wild willow
Shock creamed them
unkempt flame
last year they were really good
balmy wolf
lmao can we have seagull
feral jacinth
“Didnt watch the match but how was dallas”
supple prism
shock was on point though
reef imp
I swear, pro Wrecking Ball is amazing to watch.
light quarry
Geguri's wrecking ball was a blast to watch
wild willow
I've been supporting shock since the start of season 1 and I'm so happy
unkempt flame
ow wow
reef imp
...Ameng, I doubt that was gonna work.
unkempt flame
i support nyxl
unkempt flame
agrred
wild willow
Shock went into defense once with 6 ults
They took the time breaker with a symm teleport to point, and went right past the slow orisa setup
Tie breaker*
brisk birch
How many matches have there been and who has won them
pearl stratus
But these comps are zzzz.
wild willow
8?
pearl stratus
I wanted more exciting stuff out of Chengdu.
sullen berry
I know it first hand he is a flex looking to outperform hotba
wild willow
SFS won them all
pearl stratus
But I guess they really can't.
wild willow
Cause they are so good
pearl stratus
With no YXL.
pearl stratus
Also no Baconjack, but that might just be because Lateyoung on Zarya made more sense.
sullen berry
No JiQiRen personally
if you're going to add MY
play the OG MY together
just visa situation made them unlucky
pearl stratus
Eh I'm more worried about just having DPS around for flexing onto Zarya/Brig,.
Jinmu is kind of weak imo.
Lmfao Jayne.
cedar drum
Chengdu looking better than Fuel
sullen berry
minesweeper shu
pearl stratus
Chengdu looks not horrible for what they're missing atm.
sullen berry
shu fragging
pearl stratus
Shu is playing like a monster.
sullen berry
do they even need rise smh
quasi stump
lul, emp the zen but can't kill him
feral jacinth
Hotba scuffed dva bomb
quasi stump
this match is great
pearl stratus
Yveltal is going to be a top Lucio this season, mark my words.
inland pawn
china namba wan 😱
worn falcon
That sneaky sombra
feral jacinth
“See if we get another long volskaya” please no
reef imp
Pull!
gaunt acorn
@feral jacinth [in tokens] please yes
feral jacinth
Fuck youre right
inland pawn
c9 LUL
eager cairn
rio had primal as well hahahah
balmy wolf
C9LUP
whole mulch
xQC9
eager cairn
oh god the casters made an "I WANNA BE TRACER" joke
forest wharf
tracer eraser
frozen perch
when is winston's lab going to be updated
eager cairn
RIP Chengdu, GZ has a huge timebank
simple badger
mccree omegalul
interesting how everyone is going tracer sombra widow on volskaya lol
also chengdu hunters mercy's name is a pokemon
simple badger
he only went soldier to get to point fast lol
gilded peak
What hero is missing that hasn't been played?
gilded peak
Yep, by Dafran
eager cairn
lmao ofc
forest raven
3 every hour
gilded peak
I hear its every hour
eager cairn
i remember when i think it was jake who went torb for the first time ever last season and i watched it live and felt like i was a part of history