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hollow jasper
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spam

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ul

hidden osprey
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Mobile NotLikeThis

hollow jasper
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lul

green stump
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yup

hollow jasper
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also @fleet walrus Haida :)

green stump
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there it is..

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no more torb

pearl stratus
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Junkrat and Roadhog.

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Those are the two we haven't seen.

fossil tapir
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Imagine having a team so trash that they run torb on you

feral jacinth
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Probably did it during the beginning for hype

karmic grotto
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???

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the what

forest wharf
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E

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Z

green stump
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@feral jacinth as they should, that probably just nailed Atlanta to be be the favorite just for doing that

pearl stratus
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Interesting Grav.

feral jacinth
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Oh yeah 100%

reef imp
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"Daco not eliminated"

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near-immediately eliminated

solar trout
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caster curse

karmic grotto
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EZ

reef imp
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it's real

clear crane
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tat stall lol

frozen perch
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who are the heroes we haven't seen yet

pearl stratus
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Junkrat and Roadhog.

karmic grotto
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Erster smilig

frozen perch
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i know junkrat was played already

mental cliff
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Let’s gooo duuude

karmic grotto
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having fun

supple prism
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there was a soldier?

pearl stratus
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There was Soldier.

hollow jasper
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lets gooo dudde

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that was good

sullen berry
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@pearl stratus Dafran still looks like the type of guy who downs alcohol before going on stage after a huge party the night before

rapid locust
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was doomfist played?

feral jacinth
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Genji?

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No doom

supple prism
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genji yes

hidden osprey
hybrid helm
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Dafran POV is the real shit

rapid locust
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that is what I thought

solar trout
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ty moh

hollow jasper
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???

hidden osprey
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yw haha

clear crane
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AWWW

green stump
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oh my god...

karmic grotto
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RIGGGED

hollow jasper
karmic grotto
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RIGGED

reef imp
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uuuuuugh

rapid locust
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I think it's genji and doom that haven't been played

feral jacinth
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Dafran broke the game

karmic grotto
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Mayhm: tactical pause

reef imp
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I hate pauses.

sullen berry
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@reef imp ok dudes

rapid locust
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the production is more disruptive then hammond

pearl stratus
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@sullen berry I figured what he looks like. Homeless hipster. That weird scruffy pubic facial hair.

fleet walrus
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Pause g a m e

karmic grotto
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tactical pause guys

fleet walrus
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No u

hollow jasper
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LOL

green stump
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@pearl stratus Do you count reaper being played if he does nothing? lol

feral jacinth
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We need a hammer kill

rapid locust
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yes

fossil tapir
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Nope

feral jacinth
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By the end of owl

rapid locust
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technically

hybrid helm
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PauseChamp

fossil tapir
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Reaper literally is just a worst pick than brig

pearl stratus
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@green stump He was played last night. We got Nano Blossom. Beyblade was back.

feral igloo
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He’s already at 50 percent ultimate charge TF

green stump
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@pearl stratus ugh the games I missed when I was on my date, I need to catch up on those

solar trout
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I mean, it's sombra

pearl stratus
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Eh Spark Shanghai was the best one.

feral jacinth
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Sombra 🤨🤨🤨

sullen berry
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sucks to be an erster fan today

pearl stratus
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LAG Seoul was just 'Watch LAG not focus down RHJ, so he can keep an overextended Fissure alive with Ana"

feral jacinth
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That emp uhhh

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Sketchy

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I mean yeah hamster but thats all

hollow jasper
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dafran is being really annoying haha

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he's alwaysb ehind them

feral jacinth
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hmm

hollow jasper
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hacking

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and they can't do shit

fleet walrus
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What I miss

karmic grotto
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dude

solar trout
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to survive that

karmic grotto
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holy shit

solar trout
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wow

karmic grotto
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erster

hollow jasper
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@fleet walrus UwU

green stump
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HOLY CRAP

hollow jasper
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not much

copper solstice
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I wish I could survive that

green stump
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HOW DID HE LIVE?!

karmic grotto
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amazing heals

reef imp
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wasted

feral jacinth
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That was wow

karmic grotto
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heals on point

reef imp
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not the ult, its victims

pearl stratus
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Heals on point, and his rotation.

solar trout
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poor mayhem

fossil tapir
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Florida = new dragons

hollow jasper
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hahah dafran is solo ulting so much and i love it

karmic grotto
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of course

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solo ulting is ultimate humiliation

green stump
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@pearl stratus wait, has solider been used? (Not just panic switching, but actually played played)

reef imp
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The new meat is dominating.

fossil tapir
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No

feral jacinth
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Played played no

pearl stratus
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Just as a hold thing

light quarry
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Soldier hasnt been played

feral jacinth
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just a quick panic

light quarry
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probably wont for a bit

green stump
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theres your other hero then

rapid locust
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it doesn't look like this is even going to be a close game

light quarry
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If anyone were to play it, i'd expect Dafran to though

feral jacinth
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Yeah true

hollow jasper
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At this point you can probably expect him to play anything

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tbh

pearl stratus
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I mean I don't think anyone actually expected Florida to do well.

feral igloo
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I think Atlanta is overwatch league season playoffs material

hollow jasper
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sym hasn't been used before in OWL right

pearl stratus
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They went b team Koreans.

rapid locust
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yee

pearl stratus
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Not even good ones.

light quarry
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He's the only one I could see Soldier working with

clear crane
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sym has

hollow jasper
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Once

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or

clear crane
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surefour

hollow jasper
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multiple

pearl stratus
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Misfits is a very poor, very badly run Org.

hollow jasper
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there's not a single hero that hasn't been used then?

fossil tapir
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76 is bad but who knows they might do it for the meme

clear crane
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i think someone else used as well

light quarry
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Considering he's practically a human Aimbot

pearl stratus
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And it shows in their scrambled pick ups.

hollow jasper
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soldiers aimbot isn't good

rapid locust
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mayhem is the florida man of overwatch

green stump
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I dont think we've seen Atlanta's best yet though....I dont think they are looking at florida as a real threat

cloud granite
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I dont wanna see a repeat of soldier like AKM did

fossil tapir
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Especially since dive goats is a thing now

rapid locust
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#bringthemayhem to themselves

vast geode
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Nah not rly

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Atlanta was basically joking around

cloud granite
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Burst is pretty king

mossy locust
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Tac visor cant headshot thats one of the problems with it

rapid bobcat
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Come on Atlanta 4-0 this game

molten wave
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in atlanta watching atlanta stomp florida ez

silk dawn
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bruh tviq tracer lmaoo

light quarry
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can you not tell that I wasn't being literal

silk dawn
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logix was such a good find

pearl stratus
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I know they'll run the Dafran narrative.

karmic grotto
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atlanta didnt seem like putting much work

pearl stratus
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But Daco was a monster that first map.

feral jacinth
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2/3 analysts said that florida was gonna win so f

sullen berry
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Dogman's Zen

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TIL

karmic grotto
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atl took it ez

pearl stratus
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Dafran was just normal.

vast geode
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Tbh that

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He didn’t rly feed so that’s good

silk dawn
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i wish i could hear comms

fossil tapir
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76 would just get murked if he pops it, D-Va eats that up with matrix and Winston dives him

light quarry
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Dafran is just being gassed rn for returning to Pro Scene

hollow jasper
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is that Kodak Black

pearl stratus
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he did fine.

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Nothing wrong with that

fossil tapir
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And that’s it

pearl stratus
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Daco was just everywhere.

clear crane
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o wow Gator

karmic grotto
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KODAK, here we go

solar trout
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oh boy

green stump
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heres gator

hollow jasper
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Kodak Black Pog

green stump
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Gator, the first goat

karmic grotto
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@green stump theory crafting 3-3 comp in a night

sullen berry
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Mayhem be prepared for any team subsitutions?

karmic grotto
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then suddenly gets used in overwatch league

silk dawn
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i think they will sub out dafran here

green stump
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which one?

karmic grotto
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goats

green stump
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???

karmic grotto
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randomy cheese comp

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turns out to be strong

mossy locust
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weather in california here has been miserable

green stump
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Pretty much all the comps I was predicting have happened EXCEPT for doomgoats @karmic grotto

feral jacinth
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Yup

mossy locust
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just cloudy and raining

feral jacinth
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Rain rain and more rain

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And the wind

mental cliff
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They were actually doing well on torb, hanzo, orisa, Dva, zen, and lucio

feral jacinth
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granted out mountains have kept snow

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Dafran running out alone a couple times made me worry for a sec

hollow jasper
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Solo grav

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solo emp

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i love it

karmic grotto
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solo grav

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alwasy put 5v6 sitaution

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ex

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ez

rapid bobcat
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It works

karmic grotto
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well played

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always winning with emp and barrage

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win conditions

mental cliff
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Aaaand they go goats

pearl stratus
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I think that was too quick a swap to pure Goats.

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You can do A->B with non Goats comps.

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There's enough verticality.

vast geode
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Tru

pearl stratus
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You'll definitely need to swap for B->C, but this hurt them.

vast geode
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But theyre running Gator

rapid bobcat
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Goa.. 😪

vast geode
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Gators known more for his rein

pearl stratus
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Gators playing pretty meh, all said and done.

green stump
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They should have tried to force Atlanta to switch before they did or at least try to even the ult economy

pearl stratus
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And I'm talking Florida, personally.

rapid bobcat
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Goats is super sleeper dude

pearl stratus
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Florida should have kept their comp.

hollow jasper
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noooo dude

karmic grotto
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great reaction of dafran bubble but

feral jacinth
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Ooof

pearl stratus
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SCRIM BUCKS WITH A BOMB

karmic grotto
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...

rapid bobcat
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It's 3:40 am and goats is making me really sleepy

inland pawn
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HUGE

green stump
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go sleep then

pearl stratus
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He must have cashed in some scrim bucks like Arcade tickets for that play.

vast geode
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Dafrans zaryas mediocre tbh

inland pawn
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Warrior, sleep.

rapid bobcat
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But what about Dafran

karmic grotto
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Gator???

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wasnt that too aggresieve

pearl stratus
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It's good for damage, but he's not the best with bubbling.

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His tracking keeps his damage high though.

green stump
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@rapid bobcat if you dont like goats, go sleep, you'll be seeing goats pop up

vast geode
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His gravs are predictible

rapid bobcat
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Oh no, more goats

hollow jasper
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yeah, you can tell

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but what could dva do

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tbh

pearl stratus
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Wait till game 4.

hollow jasper
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i think she was out of matrix and low af high ground

forest raven
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Swon?

pearl stratus
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I'm hoping GZ vs CDH is not a lot of goats.

mossy locust
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imagine if someone backcapped right there

pearl stratus
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Though GZ might default to it, with Kyb.

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But Chengdu I'm hoping comes up with that playground chinese bullshit.

rapid bobcat
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 1 Week 1
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Feb 15th 21:10 EST (33 minutes ago)

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Feb 15th 22:00 EST (in 17 minutes)

undefined CDH vs GZC undefined

Feb 15th 23:30 EST (in 2 hours)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs PAR undefined

Feb 16th 15:00 EST (in 17 hours)

undefined WAS vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Feb 16th 16:30 EST (in 19 hours)

<:VAL:438251672720900097> VAL vs HZS undefined

Feb 16th 18:00 EST (in 20 hours)

undefined VAN vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Feb 16th 19:30 EST (in a day)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Feb 17th 15:00 EST (in 2 days)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs ATL undefined

Feb 17th 16:30 EST (in 2 days)

<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

Feb 17th 18:00 EST (in 2 days)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs DAL <:DAL:438251672783814657>

Feb 17th 19:30 EST (in 2 days)

pearl stratus
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Cause thats the shit thats fun to watch.

hollow jasper
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gator

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negating

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;)

rapid bobcat
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Oh Dallas is next

pearl stratus
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He didn't get booped hard enough

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If you saw Kris got the boop in

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But didn't displace Gator far enough

feral jacinth
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Nice

rapid bobcat
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Winnable

karmic grotto
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winnable

feral jacinth
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w i n N A b l e

pearl stratus
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At least Florida didn't look like bots that game.

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Compared to map 1.

karmic grotto
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ye

vast geode
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Nah they looked solid

karmic grotto
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waiting for sayaplayer

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and nlaaer

hybrid helm
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I didn’t think TviQ will play.. thought they kept him for driving the bus lol

vast geode
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Pepehands

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No saya

exotic mirage
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im just waiting for dafran widow/soldier

karmic grotto
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dafran tracer

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battlw

vast geode
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Dafran widow zaryalul

sullen berry
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!players reign

somber yewBOT
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Atlanta Reign Roster
Erster

offense

Kodak

support

Dogman

support

Masaa

support

Gator

tank

dafran

offense

Daco

tank

NLaaeR

offense

Pokpo

tank

vast geode
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Hes not ready

exotic mirage
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i love when off meta heroes are chosen then they win

mossy locust
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soldier is most likely never going to come out

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he is sustain dmg, not that viable in a goats meta

exotic mirage
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like they won with torb LOL who would have thoguht

ashen umbra
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Mayhem did worse than people realize. That first point shouldn't have taken anywhere near as long as it did.

pearl stratus
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I keep replaying the Houston Vancouver game in my head.

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And I really think Linkzr might become a Pine.

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And just bench ride till they know they can use a widow.

hybrid helm
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@mossy locust maybe in 3 or 4 dps comps

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Since he has sprint and self heal

exotic mirage
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@endoken i dont think players should be compared, since there are different playstyles

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as linkzr is more of a tracker, and pine is a flicker

ashen umbra
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They gave up a lot of time. Probably should have had an extra two fights in streets.

pearl stratus
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I just mean a widow specialist.

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Nothing about their play at all.

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Just that they sit on the bench till you want a widow, nothing more.

exotic mirage
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^

karmic grotto
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his bubblw can improve

vast geode
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Late beat by Masaa

karmic grotto
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more improving on predicting incoming damage

hybrid helm
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Pine mccree is sick too tho

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And now can play trAshe

mossy locust
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well I just saw florida get demolished

pearl stratus
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Yeah but you don't play someone just for McCree, you play for the Widow and use the McCree on bad Widow spots.

vast geode
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To me Pine is like Taimou on steroids

pearl stratus
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But more the point that Linkzr looked like the odd-man out the entire match.

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Minus when he was on Widow he was -never- impactful.

karmic grotto
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this due is smart

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he's just charging grav

pearl stratus
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I'm guessing Houston will settle into Muma, Matt/Spree (Equal in my mind), Jake, Danteh, Boink and Rawkus.

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Jake, Danteh and Boink were all pretty impressive overall.

vast geode
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Cuz he's more flexible?

karmic grotto
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wow

vast geode
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I'd think he wouldve moved into a coaching position by now

karmic grotto
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that teamwork and focusfire

clear crane
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wat was tat positioning

hybrid helm
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I think pine is overall good hitscan with widow as best hero.. he isn’t a Kefree or anything like that

supple prism
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why

mossy locust
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bots

karmic grotto
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200 IQ positioning

forest wharf
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guess mayhem is still shit zaryalul

pearl stratus
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@hybrid helm I'm not saying he is, but hitscan specialists are on the downturn compared to overall flex.

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And a lot of projectile players have been picking up Hitscan lately too.

vast geode
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Atlanta midfight are kinda messy

pearl stratus
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Like (and granted this is ladder, so grain of DvaSalt) Jake has a really solid Ashe ironically enough.

hybrid helm
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True.. can’t always get a profit/Libero/Fleta those are the most valuable players

vast geode
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Wait what

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Srsly

pearl stratus
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We saw Jake play: McCree and Sombra in the matches today.

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And neither were bad, at all.

mossy locust
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someone get a broom

light quarry
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Atlanta is doing really well

clear crane
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prob gonna see our first 4-0

mossy locust
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atlanta is a mess

pearl stratus
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He jumped in with McCree and double dinked two kills.

forest wharf
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oof

vagrant niche
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i think it's Florida doing pretty bad too

pearl stratus
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I thought it was Linkzr till I looked at the top

light quarry
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Hopefully they dont choke like Houston

vagrant niche
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not just atalanta good

hybrid helm
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What? Jake was doing nothing on Sombra.. he was being carried

vagrant niche
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atlanta

clear crane
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florida is jsut really bad

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like very very bad

pearl stratus
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If you're talking about Busan, he had nothing -to- do.

silk dawn
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how is atlanta a mess

ashen umbra
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BQB letting Dafran get ult by melting swon every fight

vagrant niche
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they remind me of the shangai

solar trout
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Atlanta looks like the kind of overconfident players that will get crushed by a solid level-headed team

karmic grotto
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at least

pearl stratus
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Vancouver died faster than hack was casting.

karmic grotto
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SHD got a ap

vagrant niche
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they are playing like them

pearl stratus
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Literally people weren't staying alive the half second needed lol

karmic grotto
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SHD got a map guys

clear crane
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wait till atl plays an actual competent team

ashen umbra
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Some awful bubble usage

mossy locust
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a lot of the people on FM are just leftovers from other teams

hybrid helm
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Vancouver? You mean Toronto

light quarry
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I think you mean Toronto?

vagrant niche
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Dafran is on point tho

pearl stratus
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Sorry, Toronto.

vagrant niche
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i been watching him on first person

pearl stratus
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Random Canadaland place.

vagrant niche
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since the start

mossy locust
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hagopeun, xeppher etc

pearl stratus
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NonRunawayMapleSyrup team.

hybrid helm
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Canada is pog tho.. the better half of NA lol

vast geode
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All Access Pass pls pogchimp

light quarry
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Camera work was fairly bad towards the end of Hollywood

mossy locust
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Feels like florida needs a better coach

light quarry
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there were times where the action was completely obstructed visually

pearl stratus
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But yeah his Sombra was solid, minus Busan where no one lived long enough.

hybrid helm
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Feels like Florida needs to give a shit about their team

silk dawn
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florida has a full kr team w no kr speaking coach

pearl stratus
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Even on the map 5 his Sombra and Danteh's tracer worked well together.

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Linkzr just kept over extending on Brig and getting caught out. Over and over.

forest wharf
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"best"

solar trout
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toronto?

ashen umbra
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Likely. Florida just lets themselves take too much unnecessary damage and they aren't min-maxing support ult charge as well as they could be.

pearl stratus
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They're also just not a good team.

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Florida picked up b-ranked Koreans.

mossy locust
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whats the thoughts on Seoul btw

pearl stratus
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Seoul is still very shaky.

mossy locust
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they look much better this season

pearl stratus
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The won against LAG, but that was because LAG did not adapt.

hybrid helm
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Seoul is pog! My fav team for more than a year

pearl stratus
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Fissure is still overextending and too aggressive.

hybrid helm
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And now solid tanks and all

silk dawn
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seoul looks a lot better

pearl stratus
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But RHJ can run Ana to mitigate it.

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If a team can actually deal with RHJ on Ana, Fissure will die.

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A lot.

silk dawn
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michelle is insane

mossy locust
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They have some proper leadership

pearl stratus
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Jecse is clutch for that, yes.

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They definitely look better, so far, than last year.

karmic grotto
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F for Zunba

silk dawn
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683 damage lmao

mossy locust
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wasn't fissure on lunatic hai before it become seoul

pearl stratus
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But I'm worried about Fissure playing way too aggro.

hollow jasper
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look at that damage done lul

vagrant niche
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WTF

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a bronze gets more dps than that

pure mason
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I'm watching my first OWL match because of Dafran. I'm really happy he's had a good start.

hollow jasper
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yeah because @vagrant niche

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like

pearl stratus
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He got saved by Nano SO MANY TIMES.

hollow jasper
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the fights are more coordinated, less damage is given off

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fights are a lot more cleaner and quick

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cut and dry

clear crane
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Shave tat pornstache!!!!

hybrid helm
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@mossy locust never heard of that.. Miro was their iconic main tank

hollow jasper
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They minimize the amt of damage they take

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so dps are doing their best to do damage theyre given

pearl stratus
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Nah those were Sombra stats.

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That was just BQB not being good at Sombra.

mossy locust
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@hybrid helm might be wrong then

silk dawn
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i think gator had good synergy there

karmic grotto
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hmm

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questenablw

vast geode
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Monte looks like a South American dictator widowlol

hybrid helm
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Gator is from Goats team right?

solar trout
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BQB looked pretty solid as zarya though

pearl stratus
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When it shifted to Zarya they were pretty much identical.

pure mason
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I want to see Dafran on tracer so badly.

silk dawn
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yep

vast geode
#

Who doesnt?

karmic grotto
#

we want

#

or soldier

silk dawn
#

i want soldiert

pearl stratus
#

Dafrans first game isn't bad. He looks like he's about average, honestly. Which is good.

pure mason
#

Soldier I don't really care about. I think his soldier is overrated compared to his Tracer.

hybrid helm
#

I want Dafran on torb lol he looks so happy laughing when playing torb

pearl stratus
#

Nothing crazy, no overexpectations.

#

Just a good player.

karmic grotto
#

you are always neagtive endoken

clear crane
#

???

karmic grotto
#

jesus

pearl stratus
#

The fuck?

karmic grotto
#

this guy hates players

clear crane
#

Dafran's soldier is prob his best hero.....

pearl stratus
#

Are you going to suck his dick and tell me he was amazing?

solar trout
#

woah now

#

relax

karmic grotto
#

nope, but im not like you either

vast geode
#

No he wasn't amazing tbh

silk dawn
#

he did everything he could his team was rolling so hard theres not much more any of them couldve done

pearl stratus
#

He did okay, so I said he did okay.

#

Thats not negative.

mossy locust
#

hey lets chill out

vast geode
#

But for a first game he is fine so far

pearl stratus
#

Thats literally how he played.

silk dawn
#

he was constantly high charge and pumping out damage

mossy locust
#

lets just enjoy the match

hybrid helm
#

Dafran can show a lot of performance on Zarya with his tracc

silk dawn
#

bro this music thicc

hybrid helm
#

Enemy pharah couldn’t get close to his team without getting tracced by him

clear crane
#

Dafran seems like a pretty good zarya

karmic grotto
#

his zarya can improve

#

alot

vast geode
#

His ability use could be better though

pure mason
#

how would you know if he's GOOD GOOD with 2 rounds as zarya. it's not that easy to pick out individual performances in a game like this. We'll know in a few weeks

silk dawn
#

i dont think we can say that until we see him in actual competitive games \

mossy locust
#

^

pearl stratus
#

He needs better bubbling, his average charge is still about 10% below where he wants it.

sullen berry
pearl stratus
#

But bubbling in a competitive environment is a learned thing.

vast geode
#

And a change in ethnicity

hybrid helm
#

Yea yea yea he is a mechanic based player ofc he has flaws but his tracking is sick

pearl stratus
#

It's not like ladder.

mossy locust
#

Other than performance we should wait to see

pearl stratus
#

Most impressive player on Atlanta hands down right now is Daco.

hollow jasper
#

dogman

mossy locust
#

some teams are obvious if they have improved or stlll suck

hollow jasper
#

yi kers

karmic grotto
#

lmao

silk dawn
#

i wonder if dogman can compete

vast geode
#

KR tank duo back

silk dawn
#

this will be interesting

pearl stratus
#

Dogman did okay in Map 1.

karmic grotto
#

nlaaer?

ashen umbra
#

Seoul didn't look shaky at all to me. They played against one of the most stacked teams and came out on top.

clear crane
#

Daco is performing as expected

#

imo

karmic grotto
#

finally

vast geode
#

oWo

#

Triple dps time?

clear crane
#

quad dps time!!!

pearl stratus
#

Dogmans only major issues in Contenders was his panic ulting.

sullen berry
#

it's triple dps time + 1 dafran

clear crane
#

might see dafrans soldier/tracer here

pure mason
#

TRACER PLEASE

pearl stratus
#

And thats not something that you can just coach out.

hybrid helm
#

Who’s gonna be this seasons SHD? Florida or Boston? Or hunters?

pearl stratus
#

He just needs to play more so he doesn't panic.

#

Florida, based on what we've seen so far.

solar trout
#

SHD will be this season's SHD

clear crane
#

SHD will be this seasons SHD

silk dawn
#

no

vast geode
#

Nah Boston gave NY a good competition

pearl stratus
#

Boston was scrappy.

pure mason
#

TRACEEEEEEEEEEEEER

silk dawn
#

no way

solar trout
#

but really SHD did great

clear crane
#

Hes on Tracer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

silk dawn
#

the shd match was great

hybrid helm
#

Lol the dream 0-68

vast geode
#

Only cuz Fusions thou

silk dawn
#

they will demolish mayhem

pearl stratus
#

Honestly Axxiom played a very impressive Zarya too.

solar trout
#

symm?

pure mason
#

🍴 tracer

pearl stratus
#

It was mostly fusions, but Axxiom did well too.

clear crane
#

Time to see that tracking

vast geode
#

I'm inclined to say chengdu but even the bottom teams can be back and forth

hybrid helm
#

Fusions is INSANE seriously.. outplaying Mano hard

reef imp
#

I do like the opening shots just before the match. Whoever controls the free camera is good.

solar trout
#

tviq

gilded peak
#

You ask, and he gives

ashen umbra
#

I think Chengdu is being underrated. I think Boston is being overrated and Mano has a Contenders Rein. I think Florida will be bottom.

hollow jasper
#

lets goooo dude he's on tracer

pearl stratus
#

I actually think Chengdu will get some surprise wins provided they don't try to play like anything but Chinese players.

#

Some of the crazy Chinese strats really shake things up, and they'll catch teams unprepared for it.

vast geode
#

He got one

#

How th did Swon die so early

pearl stratus
#

Especially if Chengdu uses Ameng properly.

#

Ameng is probably the best ball in the world, so I hope they utilize it.

clear crane
#

he was caught out

mossy locust
#

the supports just got hunted down

vast geode
#

Hago just won that fight for them

mossy locust
#

6 minutes oof

vast geode
#

Good to know that Florida at least has a quality support player

pearl stratus
#

Xepher cashing in more scrim bucks and not looking completely disappointing.

sullen berry
#

#letsgohuntChengduHunters

silk dawn
#

fuck he missed the sleep

pearl stratus
#

Which is a huge improvement for him.

vast geode
#

Yikes

clear crane
#

wow tat sleep

silk dawn
#

i thought manneten was good

vast geode
#

Florida rolled them

karmic grotto
#

Tracer lmao, so much cc

silk dawn
#

yeah thats a hard yikes

clear crane
#

hmmmm

pearl stratus
#

I mean Hagopeun was never really bad when he played for London, just not as good as Bdosin.

clear crane
#

so was atl actually trying or did florida have a good strat

gilded peak
#

Reverse sweep soon?

karmic grotto
#

atlanta must be trolling

mossy locust
pure mason
#

ok fuck tracer, bastion on next defence for dafran 😄

clear crane
#

Hagopeun is pretty good

karmic grotto
#

^

light quarry
#

Tracer wasn't working at all

karmic grotto
#

I hope so

vast geode
#

Chat already laughing at Dafran

karmic grotto
#

Gimme that Bastion

clear crane
#

u jsut cant expect him to start over closer/bdosin/nus lol

karmic grotto
#

hagopeun?

mossy locust
#

bastion OMEGALUL

pearl stratus
#

He didn't look -super- impressive on Mayhem Academy. But he looks better now.

#

But Mayhem Academy had a very mixed roster.

#

Which always hurts supports.

clear crane
#

who plays after this

#

and the last match

vast geode
#

I should be hyped for Dallas vs Shock instead

silk dawn
#

qwhy so many pauses jesus christ

clear crane
#

i hear that tracer lol

vast geode
#

Both have quality rosters

karmic grotto
#

tracer can not outdamage sustain of 3 support

pearl stratus
#

I think Shock is going to take that one, if they don't have any glaring issues.

mossy locust
#

see almost no play out of bastion outside of 1st point of route 66 and junkertown

silk dawn
#

i think if dallas drops mickie they will be a lot better

pearl stratus
#

They did.

#

rCK is there.

#

Mickie shouldn't be playing D'va.

vast geode
#

Well in effect yeah

clear crane
#

SYM

vast geode
#

But officially not yet

pearl stratus
#

I think the biggest issue on Dallas now is their DPS.

ashen umbra
#

I HOPE Fuel v Shock is close.

clear crane
#

awwwwwwww

hollow jasper
#

aw

#

i wanted sym

clear crane
#

boooooo

pearl stratus
#

But I've personally never been impressed by Zacharee, myself.

#

So that might be more on me.

mossy locust
#

fuel looked good at the end of stage 4

clear crane
#

any of u guys got all access pass

pearl stratus
#

Not a good carry over though.

vast geode
#

Goats mercywhy

mossy locust
#

no

pearl stratus
#

They were the only team that really embraced Brig.

#

I remember the stat was like..

#

Dallas used Brig 65% of the time

clear crane
#

no one here has it? 😮

pearl stratus
#

Other teams only used her 30%.

#

Which is why Dallas pulled away so much, they embraced her early.

mossy locust
#

why is this looking like an average comp game

ashen umbra
#

I have the pass

#

Why

vast geode
#

Would that mean they might use Ashe or smth like that

clear crane
#

wen ur looking at a players pov

vast geode
#

NA Trance

clear crane
#

is the stream like 5 seconds faster den the main stream

pearl stratus
#

I'm surprised we've seen so little Ashe, honestly.

silk dawn
#

pov is laggy

clear crane
#

cause for me it is

ashen umbra
#

Yeah

silk dawn
#

yeah where is ashe

clear crane
#

tats weird

pearl stratus
#

She's not that good against an OWL D'va, which I get.

vast geode
#

Also tf Erster on DVa

pearl stratus
#

But she'd play well into these 1:3:2's.

karmic grotto
#

dont you understand, this is the scrim showdown strat

light quarry
#

The shatter saved that defense

mossy locust
#

ashe needs lucio tbh

light quarry
#

Rein would have died otherwise

vast geode
#

Atlanta rly is sloppy midfight

mossy locust
#

12 second cooldown mobility option guarantees DVA will just hunt her down

clear crane
#

Dogman has his screen so close to his face

#

damn

karmic grotto
#

he hasglasses

#

thats why

#

too see close distance

clear crane
#

huh?

karmic grotto
#

wait

clear crane
#

lotta players have glasses and it isnt tat close

karmic grotto
#

he doesnt have

#

glasses

#

???

#

maybe lens

ashen umbra
#

Florida not confident in that fight. Used support ults too early. Hard defense though.

vast geode
#

The fact that Atlanta isn't rolling over Florida that easily kinda concerns me

ashen umbra
#

Florida isn't playing badly here. I think Assault might be their niche.

vast geode
#

?????

#

Atl actually won that fight

ashen umbra
#

Until Swon does that. :/

#

Spoke too soon, I guess.

clear crane
#

i hope florida wins this map

#

make it somewhat interesting

vast geode
#

Ult timings on both teams somewhat off

clear crane
#

also its gonna be hard to judge teams until like week 4

hollow jasper
#

i mean

#

dafran half the game has been solo graving

ashen umbra
#

It wouldbe nice if there weren't any matches where you already know the loser this season.

hollow jasper
#

solo emping

#

the main tank

#

swon

clear crane
#

cant expect everyone to be not rusty the first month or so

#

so the power rankings are kinda useless rn

#

unless its just very very bad play

vast geode
#

But muh scrimbucks

hollow jasper
#

jah coins

vast geode
#

xaxaxaxaxaxa

pure mason
#

bastion.. guaranteed

#

Dabastion

forest wharf
#

swon is getting rekt by gator

karmic grotto
#

shanhai will win at least one match

reef imp
#

Jeez, that was a mess of Ultimates at the end.

vast geode
#

Lol I posted ez clap on chat and it got removed

karmic grotto
#

but nobody wants to be the team to lose

vast geode
#

Toxic mods widowlol

mossy locust
#

good attempt to hold but florida is messy when they fight

ashen umbra
#

This is where Florida chokes. They've been getting less and less confident this whole game.

karmic grotto
#

theyre afraid

gilded peak
#

Oh? THey all use wireless mouse?

mental cliff
#

We want Bastion Dafran not tracer

sullen berry
#

@vast geode just post GZ EZ during the charge match

ashen umbra
#

But offense gets a big advantage in this meta with scouting swaps so who knows.

sullen berry
#

should be whitelisted

forest wharf
#

have florida not been choking this whole game

vast geode
#

BQB's face screams unconfident

mossy locust
#

bastion sees almost no play outside of route 66 first point, and junkertown

mental cliff
#

Not the first round at least

ashen umbra
#

They played a strong first first defense.

pure mason
#

lol at the diva

vast geode
#

Running Nlaaer might have been a bad choice

sullen berry
#

NLaeer for widow only just doesn't pop off

#

at least they know it now

forest wharf
light quarry
#

Atlanta knew they werent gonna cap

#

they wanted to time stall

mental cliff
#

Dafran stunned out of pulse bomb

coarse pawn
#

Guys I need help

sullen berry
#

Mayhem aren't that easy to pushover for one of the lower tier teams

coarse pawn
#

I ordered a Mendo body pillow but they sent me a bench instead

light quarry
#

Florida has more time on the clock to be too confident in this battle

mossy locust
#

florida should have been faster to engage

clear crane
#

😮

karmic grotto
#

jesus

narrow venture
#

damn

karmic grotto
#

high charged zarya

#

eats alive

clear crane
#

Dafrans tracking is insane

light quarry
#

holy

clear crane
#

just watching his POV

narrow venture
#

that triple

clear crane
#

crazy

light quarry
#

Dafran's tracking is unmatched tbh

karmic grotto
#

t that ust hurt

clear crane
#

the only guy i can see matching dafran's soldier tracking is akm

pure mason
#

@clear crane are there feeds of individual players available online??

clear crane
#

u have to pay for it

feral jacinth
#

Dafran 4k niiiice

gilded peak
#

BQB is just bad man

narrow venture
#

it is free tonight thought and tomorrow

mossy locust
#

bqbLUL

clear crane
#

oh it is?

narrow venture
#

yeah

pure mason
#

is it on the owl website??? will check now

pearl stratus
#

You mean a Sombra shouldn't walk ontop of a tank whos the target of everyones CC?

clear crane
#

its on twitch

#

look for the command center

narrow venture
#

overwatchleague/commandcenter

clear crane
#

hago and these dinks

sullen berry
#

POGGERS

clear crane
#

welp

#

florid acant win

simple badger
#

2cp poggers

karmic grotto
#

emp is such a bitch

clear crane
#

they wont have a chance to attack

forest wharf
#

gator>>>pokpo

simple badger
#

yes they will

gilded peak
#

Well seems like ATL wins no matter what now

simple badger
#

no

gilded peak
#

Yep. 2-1 or 3-0

simple badger
#

they didnt finish with more than a minute

clear crane
#

they finish in ot

simple badger
#

florida gets an attack

gilded peak
#

Nope

clear crane
#

oh nvm

gilded peak
#

Do they?

pearl stratus
#

Yes.

mossy locust
#

florida has just been getting wlked over for most of their defenses

simple badger
#

yes

pure mason
#

oooho I found the command center!!!

clear crane
#

i thought if one team was in ot it doesnt matter

karmic grotto
#

@mossy locust yeh, EMP

gilded peak
#

Oh what? Or is that hybrid rule that I'm thinking?

simple badger
#

@clear crane if u finish with more than a minute and the other team gets ot tahts the case

pure mason
#

this is awesome

pearl stratus
#

The other team has to have more than a minute.

simple badger
#

atl finished with less than a minute

gilded peak
#

Ahhhh

clear crane
#

so if florida doesnt get one tick here

gilded peak
#

Was not aware of that, thanks for clarifying

clear crane
#

they essentially lose

#

cause den they can only hope for tie

gilded peak
#

They tie, they lose

simple badger
#

idk why atl keeps trolling first point defense with this triple deeps comp that isnt working lol

ashen umbra
#

You should see more rolled defenses this season. The meta is really skewed towards offense.

simple badger
#

i guess its working this time tho

narrow venture
#

3rd times the charm I guess

pearl stratus
#

BQB is just such a bot on Sombra.

clear crane
#

jesus dafran

simple badger
#

z9 lol

pure mason
#

i found command center just in time. great dafran POV

gilded peak
#

What team was BQB in?

molten skiff
#

wait

clear crane
#

X6

molten skiff
#

now mayhem cant win

pearl stratus
#

BQB was a bench player for X6 iirc.

molten skiff
#

even if they force draw

feral jacinth
#

Even with a draw doesnt atl still win?

gilded peak
#

-_-" FLM is just bad

#

Xepher hasn't even improved with Dva

frozen perch
#

torb

gilded peak
#

Pretty much

feral jacinth
#

T o r b

gilded peak
#

ATL already wins with 2-1 or 3-0

karmic grotto
#

Torbjorn first round ilios

#

lmao

forest wharf
#

this is what happens when the org is cheap as fuck and just picks up the b tier players

pearl stratus
#

Also they didn't have a real coach.

gilded peak
#

I really feel bad for SayaPlayer...

#

I hope he can get transferred to a better team

clear crane
#

i dont think anyone wanted to play for florida lol

pearl stratus
#

Mineral was garbage. R2der was garbage.

#

Florida basically has never had a coach.

ashen umbra
#

FLM has garbage management. Nothing will improve until Management changes how they think or management changes.

forest wharf
#

yea no coach doesnt help

pearl stratus
#

Then Mineral got to be the OWWC coach for Sweden.

#

And we saw how well they... did?

narrow venture
#

why don't they have a coach?

simple badger
#

i mean they only had 6 players going into the first season. its quite clear they are a cheap org

forest wharf
#

A T zaryalul

pearl stratus
#

Yeah Misfits is just shorthand for mismanaged.

karmic grotto
#

they dont have coach?

clear crane
#

Misfits is pretty bad all around

gilded peak
#

and remember, TVIQ was the bus driver too

#

or maybe still is

pearl stratus
#

Their assistant coach is doing everything, right now.

karmic grotto
#

huh?

forest raven
#

MY BOYS

pearl stratus
#

Mineral doesn't speak Korean (and is just a shitty coach)

forest raven
pearl stratus
#

R2der was horrible, and got fired a week ago.

karmic grotto
#

why does Blizz allow them to be owl team without coach?

forest raven
#

Reign gonna pound

upper niche
#

Holy shit. Okay, so Dafran lives up to the hype.

regal oracle
#

Lets
Go
Dude

karmic grotto
#

better let a top contenders team be a new expansion team

pearl stratus
#

Because its not on Blizz to care if an org is shit.

#

Thats on the org.

gilded peak
#

Honestly, not really. About Dafran

simple badger
#

@karmic grotto they gave bliz the money for an owl team

karmic grotto
#

lmao

gilded peak
#

His team is really good though, can't say much about him yet

karmic grotto
#

and they suck

forest wharf
#

they fired r2der like 2 weeks before the season too lol

karmic grotto
#

management suck then

mossy bone
#

LETS GO DOOD

pearl stratus
#

They did, and do.

clear crane
#

Dafrans tracking has been amazing

karmic grotto
#

how you dont have a main coach

narrow venture
#

His Torb at the start was so fun to watch!

pearl stratus
#

But thats not on Blizzard anymore.

pure mason
#

average league rank 1 for dafran.. not sure that means anything but there you go

pearl stratus
#

Blizzards job is to run the league, not run peoples orgs for them.

#

Its why you see so much growing pains.

analog lark
#

Dafran's tracking is god tier

pearl stratus
#

Stage 1 Fuel, Stage 1 Shanghai.

mossy locust
#

You would think by now all the teams would have their shit together

pearl stratus
#

Stage 1 and 2 Florida, etc.

upper niche
#

3 deaths - and it showed what happens when he gets taken out.

pure mason
#

average damage #1 I mean

clear crane
#

def not

#

most teams dont have their shit together till 3-4 weeks into the season

gilded peak
#

Pretty much.

#

And then some teams start burning out

feral jacinth
#

4-0???

forest raven
#

This is an ez 4-0

karmic grotto
#

florida gonn pay mcdonalds

clear crane
#

cant 100% judge a team on first week or 2 alone

pearl stratus
#

I mean the expansion teams all learned.

gilded peak
#

The new teams may experience the burn.

feral jacinth
pearl stratus
#

Most of the first year teams learned.

#

Florida is just a dumpster fire.

clear crane
#

florida is just bad

karmic grotto
#

they are mayhem

gilded peak
#

FLM is the only team that hasn't learned

clear crane
#

so its not a fair comparison

mossy locust
#

well fuel vs shock

forest raven
#

Misfits is atrocious

karmic grotto
#

maybe not bad

pearl stratus
#

Floridas only saving grace is Hago.

karmic grotto
#

but atl just better

#

also

#

where is sayaplayer?

pearl stratus
#

Widow specialist.

clear crane
#

no need for a widow

pearl stratus
#

Not a widow friendly meta.

gilded peak
#

No SayaPlayer until the meta changes most likely

pure mason
mossy locust
#

florida got thrown scraps for players

pearl stratus
#

I mean they didn't get thrown anything.

forest raven
#

Daco shy Pog

pearl stratus
#

They went to the on-sale bin.

#

And grabbed a few koreans.

clear crane
#

dude ur basing these stats off 1 game lol

feral jacinth
#

Daco fidgeting as hell

clear crane
#

give it a month before comparisons

simple badger
#

on sale bin omegalul

pure mason
#

wait, they still play the 4th map? weird

feral igloo
#

Daco is a cute shy boy

#

I’m not gay but daco is cute

pearl stratus
#

I mean they could have gotten -good- Koreans.

feral igloo
#

gilded peak
#

You must be new hmexx

pearl stratus
#

They just didn't want to pay for them.

feral igloo
#

I’m not gay but daco is bae

karmic grotto
#

sayaplayer could be in this map?

clear crane
#

saya cuda played here

pearl stratus
#

Eh. Saya could have played two points.

feral igloo
#

Daco covered his eyes and blushed when the camera turned to him

pearl stratus
#

He'd be a liability from B->C though

gilded peak
#

As long as 3-3 exist, you won't be seeing the big DPS play for a long long long time

feral igloo
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:3 shy boy

pearl stratus
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Not a great Widow hallway.

feral jacinth
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4 dps

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nvm...

feral igloo
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Daco is bae

pure mason
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I'm not new at all. I was on the overwatch alpha team

simple badger
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goats is dumb

feral igloo
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Forget dafran, love daco ❤

clear crane
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goats is pretty intense on the highest highest level

gilded peak
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Blame Jeff for creating Brig

feral jacinth
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“Run dps we arent winning anyway”

feral igloo
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Both teams are running goats

feral jacinth
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Yeah they switched

feral igloo
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This mayhem is way better than the previous mayhem

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They are full korean

simple badger
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jeff is a bot

feral igloo
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Eventually they will adapt

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It’s korean nature

simple badger
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idk how he thought brig was a good idea

feral igloo
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I believe in every team ❤

pearl stratus
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They're open division Koreans, though.

gilded peak
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Maybe, but if they don't have a coach, there is no room for improvement

pearl stratus
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Which are only equal to NA Contenders.

feral igloo
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I like underdogs

clear crane
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ooo bad grav

mossy locust
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took so many nerfs to get her to not be oppressive, she still is though

feral igloo
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Dafran is playing above expectations

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I won’t deny

karmic grotto
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lmao

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zoning grav

pure mason
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he's not playing above my expectations 😄

karmic grotto
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kinda works to delay

simple badger
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i expected defran to pop off.

pure mason
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but then again I'm a fanboy

feral igloo
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I expected him to choke. You’re allowed to waste ultimates if you can combo and time cooldowns to get picks

simple badger
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but also its florida mayhem

serene tendon
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ladder grav zaryalul

gilded peak
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Meh, ATL can screw all they want now. They already won

simple badger
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aka slightly better shanghai dragons

gilded peak
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and they can see the big difference in teams

pearl stratus
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Not right now.

feral igloo
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Does anyone want to team chat whilst watching the game??

clear crane
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map diff matters

pearl stratus
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I think Shanghai actually would be winning this match against Atlanta.

clear crane
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esp with all these new teams

forest raven
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Map differential is very important

pearl stratus
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Even without the main tank.

clear crane
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so cant take a map off

tired anvil
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once they get their main tank integrated.

simple badger
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shanghai is going to go 0-68 lol

pearl stratus
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No, even without it.

feral igloo
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I’m down to voice chat if y’all wanna have a live discussion

gilded peak
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You mean 0-28

pearl stratus
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Atlanta has some really big weaknesses with ults.

simple badger
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plust the 0-40 from last year

pearl stratus
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An organized team would take advantage of it this early in the season.

simple badger
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so 0-68

feral igloo
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Let’s have an online watch party

gilded peak
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Ah, lol

weary sequoia
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wait, why are they playing a forth game? I thought it was best of 5

gilded peak
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Doubt that will happen.

feral igloo
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Bet y’all are too pussy to voice chat

gilded peak
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Nah, its 4 games. Its based on points

tired anvil
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they play 4 maps regardless

clear crane
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basing atl's "power" off facing florida is kinda pointless lol

feral igloo
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Florida isn’t lacking

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They’re a new team

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They’re allowed to lose

light quarry
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No they arent

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lol

clear crane
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every game is 4 maps min

supple prism
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so their schedule is extra crap

pearl stratus
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Sunday will be Atlanta's make or break, imo.

light quarry
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Florida has been here since the beginning of the OWL

gilded peak
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New team, new everything, but no management

weary sequoia
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ohh

clear crane
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cause in the end it cud come to map diff to see who makes the playoffs

pearl stratus
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Their first game was Florida, which was a nice intro the league.

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Sunday Atlanta plays Philly.

clear crane
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atl gonna get anhilated next game

mossy locust
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yep

clear crane
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prob 0-4

light quarry
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I mean, Shanghai has more handicaps rn than Florida does, and Shanghai played better than Florida is rn

simple badger
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carpi monkaS

pearl stratus
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I mean Sunday will test how good they are.

forest raven
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Imagine forcing your five Korean players to comm in English for Tviq

mossy locust
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philly is a great team

gilded peak
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Oooh, Philly weill destroy them

forest raven
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That's all you need to know about Florida

pearl stratus
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You'll be able to see a lot more about Atlanta than this game.

tired anvil
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doesn't Tviq know some korean?

light quarry
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yeah

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But Iirc he's the shot caller

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so they prioritize him

sullen berry
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I found this hard to enjoy

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light quarry
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honestly I never got the hype over Tviq

forest raven
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Florida is dog shit

clear crane
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philly will prob destroy every team

tired anvil
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i mean. it worked for LAG S1 w/ fissure but...

clear crane
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they can flex like crazy

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this meta is all abotu flexing

pearl stratus
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The map changes make stages matter a lot less overall - stages themselves can shift in difficulty a lot. It's weird. The less games is hugely impactful.

mossy locust
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them vs london was a great 1st match

clear crane
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ny shoudl be able to flex very well with libero and flow3r

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but who knows

pearl stratus
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Flower? Pfft.

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You mean Nenne.

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The not washed up one 😉

gilded peak
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Meta is all about flexing? YOu mean all about 3-3

mossy locust
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libero on brig PepeHands

clear crane
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its not all 3-3 anymore tho

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majority yes

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but not 100%

light quarry
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3-3 IS NOT flexing

pearl stratus
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I mean people say its all 3-3.

clear crane
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if it was 3-3 the entire way

pearl stratus
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Yet we've seen 27 out of 29 heroes played seriously.

gilded peak
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90% is 3-3, 2CP is flex

light quarry
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If 3-3 is majority of meta, how can u say the meta is flexing