fleet walrus
I saw score
#esports-discussion
supple prism
@molten skiff if you ask me, both teams were kinda messy. it was like watching 2 plat teams
molten skiff
i see gamsu didnt play
supple prism
a lot of the pushes seemed like luck
or spent most of the match just building ults to combo with
molten skiff
isnt SHD basically KPD + geguri and gamsu now?
man i wish diya to be playing when they win for the first time, but i dont think he will be
quasi egret
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
inner sequoia
Who is the best Hammond player?
ruby pendant
idk, but geguri seemed decent with Hammond yesterday.
gaunt acorn
@inner sequoia no
inner sequoia
Who
gaunt acorn
people are saying shadowburn isn't even the best genji on paris eternal
inner sequoia
eqo is a new name to me
inner sequoia
Did he pick up noriety in stage 2 and beyond?
inner sequoia
I think I stopped paying attention to owl around then
But, I already have Genji's fusion skin, so it checks out
gaunt acorn
spark currently, i'd say
inner sequoia
Fuels bad man
lunar narwhal
is that based on goats?
gaunt acorn
well now it represents eqo @inner sequoia
inner sequoia
Yay
lunar narwhal
because i heard super wasnt the best main tank but smurf is a great winston. the only problem is that smurf is a winston main and some maps calls for a rein. ik smurf can flex onto rein but how good is it?
lunar narwhal
yeah i would say shock in general too but i think we have to see the goats pov in these matches
inner sequoia
They were bad all first season
gaunt acorn
i would've liked the redemption arc to come to fruition, but
@inner sequoia not all -- they did well in stage 4
lunar narwhal
@gaunt acorn doing bad where?
inner sequoia
Nani
lunar narwhal
ahh
inner sequoia
So its cool to be a Fuel fan again
gaunt acorn
i mean it was for like 3 weeks
inner sequoia
Even though they don't have Seagull anymore so like why would I even be fans of them anymore smh
gaunt acorn
rumour has it they're in a bit of a slump again
but we'll see
scrims and rumours are not definitive
lunar narwhal
well are they testing dps comps or goats comps? like yesterday how nyxl was supposedly said to 4-0 uprising but fusions rein carried uprising pretty hard
gaunt acorn
goats is the predominant meta
lunar narwhal
but like surefour zarya, that wasnt a good zarya for la
inner sequoia
I know you're all sick and tired of it but I'm pretty happy its not a Mercy meta
gaunt acorn
dps comps can be run in an attempt to counter it (see: yesterday's london vs philly volskaya)
but goats is the main comp
inner sequoia
What's the standard goat comp
gaunt acorn
@lunar narwhal surefour just isn't very good at zarya
inner sequoia
Is it any different from triple tank
lunar narwhal
yeah i agree. certain maps calls for different comps
gaunt acorn
@inner sequoia rein/zarya/dva/zen/lucio/brig
lunar narwhal
yeah ik hes not a good zarya. only if bischu wasnt out sick and was able to play
inner sequoia
So triple tank, triple support but its 2019 so it has a name now
gaunt acorn
2018, really
lunar narwhal
i personally think they lost because of a hole in the comp. seoul dynasty definetely brought it brack with the fissure pick up with a great rein.
gaunt acorn
it's been the dominant meta for many months
inner sequoia
I heard
gaunt acorn
named after an open division team that had a perfect record in may 2018
lunar narwhal
i have too until owl came back lol
inner sequoia
I wasa wondering where the name come from
I dropped competitive Overwatch when the Mercy meta made me realize Blizzard can't balance
For jack
lunar narwhal
thats hard to say then. if dallas isnt doing as good then thats really hard
gaunt acorn
well you missed the brigitte meta then
inner sequoia
I'm thankful I did
lunar narwhal
i just heard that supers rein is inferior to oge rein
gaunt acorn
oge is a good reinhardt
lunar narwhal
yeah and super isnt. im just thinking if shock is gonna play smurf instead
but how good of a reing does smurf have?
i know hes a winston main but does he have a good rein?
inner sequoia
Is Toronto looking to be any good?
lunar narwhal
thats like the only question im asking myself to see who wins shock vs fuel
gaunt acorn
that's about all the enthusiasm i can muster for toronto
inner sequoia
In fact, can I get a rundown of the expectations of all the new teams?
gaunt acorn
@lunar narwhal 80/20 odds on shock
inner sequoia
So I'm caught up to date
lunar narwhal
that much? damn
gaunt acorn
titans and hangzhou good
other expansion teams not as good
mayhem still dumpster
shanghai decent
then past that, around the same as before
except shock is good now
lunar narwhal
i thought it was more of a 60/40 for shock
gaunt acorn
70/30?
lunar narwhal
yeah ik that but its goats thats why
inner sequoia
Oh
gaunt acorn
@inner sequoia their roster is entirely different from season 1 stage 1
lunar narwhal
which is the reason why im suprised because fuel seems like they have a better goats comp on paper
gaunt acorn
it's almost entirely different even from season 1 stage 4
inner sequoia
Geguri can just carry with goats?
inner sequoia
oh
pearl stratus
Honestly Shanghai was decent in Season 1 too, For stages 3 and 4 they were the most prepped for non-playoff team.
lunar narwhal
yeah i agree
gaunt acorn
shanghai signed most of kongdoo panthera
lunar narwhal
i personally want to see how gamsu will fit into the team
gaunt acorn
as well as gamsu
inner sequoia
You say season 1 they were decent but they went 0-40
wintry kraken
when she said "best available winston", i bet xqc fans gone full rage 😄
jagged crater
That's chef gamsu to you
pearl stratus
Read the second half.
gaunt acorn
because people tried especially hard vs them
pearl stratus
Selective reading doesn't work.
lunar narwhal
everyone is yhyping hi up over fearless
gaunt acorn
nobody wanted to lose vs shanghai so they scrimmed extra hard to beat them
light quarry
Monte's mustache is even worst today
gaunt acorn
had they been treated like mayhem, shanghai could've won
pearl stratus
Teams would prep for Shanghai, not prep for say.. Boston. It was okay to lose for Boston, so you'd let that game just be a wing it.
inner sequoia
eh
pearl stratus
Multiple teams, and not low ranking ones.
inner sequoia
I mean eh from a results standpoint
Which is what matters
They're not bad but they didn't win once
jagged crater
Jake admitted it
pearl stratus
Eh depends.
I'd rather be Shanghai than Dallas.
Dallas actually requires the results.
hidden osprey
I'm guessing these breaks in WP are for ads for the live TV broadcast?
lunar narwhal
isnt violet suspended to play for shock?
inner sequoia
I need to find a good OWL skin for Hammond
jagged crater
The pink one
lunar narwhal
is that gonna change the decision of fuel vs shock?
jagged crater
Sleepy the non-korean hope
lunar narwhal
@pearl stratus what do you personally think of the match. shock or fuel? and is that with goats or no?
pearl stratus
Shock.
Dallas is too Jiminy Cricket for me.
They have theoretical good stuff.
If you wish upon a star.
lunar narwhal
yeah on paper they seem like a great goats comp. many people are saying shock tho. i just want to see why exactly lol
pearl stratus
OGE is good, rCK is... okay.
The two DPS they pick for Goats swaps are going to be interesting.
lunar narwhal
im not a fan by any means. im making predictions and want to see other opinions on it lol
pearl stratus
And most people have no faith for Zacharee.
Since he was literally dog shit in the OWWC
Six months to fix it.
But those results aren't forgotten.
lunar narwhal
lol do you think mickie will play over rck? he has a dva in him
lunar narwhal
you think he will play? as the brig pick?
pearl stratus
No
inner sequoia
Is dynasty going to be good?
light quarry
i cant take anything monte says seriously with that stache
lunar narwhal
dynasty is looking good
inner sequoia
Ooo
pearl stratus
Dynasty looked... okay last night.
lunar narwhal
but it might only be for goats
pearl stratus
They actually looked -really- weak last night.
But Glad didn't adjust to exploit it.
Fissure is over aggressive, and overextended.
inner sequoia
Man
pearl stratus
Which is why RHJ was on Ana, not Zen.
inner sequoia
Rip the legendary teams pre-OWL
feral jacinth
Guys
inner sequoia
Like seriously what a shame
jagged crater
The most popular you mean
pearl stratus
If LAG had dedicated more to getting RHJ first, not Fissure, it would have flipped.
lunar narwhal
yeah goats comp seemed good for dynasty. maybe not the overall team yet especially with fissure aggresive style
feral jacinth
Wasnt it three?
inner sequoia
I don't know
hidden osprey
My last years tokens didn't expire 
pearl stratus
But LAG never really adjusted to go for RHJ on Ana, so he got to sit back and keep FIssure alive on over-extension.
feral jacinth
Oh okay good
jagged crater
Who knows there could be surprises. People ranked Boston very low and they got close with nyxl.
wintry kraken
btw their rules are weird for the tokens LOL
jagged crater
Boston was also playing a sub
wintry kraken
my country is not in the list of the ones which are supposed to get tokens. but i got 6
hidden osprey
hax
inner sequoia
I wish you can view skins by hero honestly
jagged crater
Sounds to me no one played well
limber pine
------------------------------------------
Stage 1 - Week 1 of the Overwatch League is live in 15 minutes!
DAY 2 MATCHES
4:00 PM PST: 
Toronto Defiant vs Houston Outlaws 
5:30 PM PST: 
Atlanta Reign vs Florida Mayhem 
7:00 PM PST: 
Dallas Fuel vs San Francisco Shock 
8:30 PM PST: 
Chengdu Hunters vs Guangzhou Charge 
Watch live at:
🇬🇧 https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague
Full schedule:
🗓 https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule
lunar narwhal
i agree @pearl stratus but i have to give props to fusions
supple prism
he really needs to shave that thing
pearl stratus
Minus Horizon Lunar Colony I think Spark and Shanghai both played well for their rosters.
hidden osprey
GB flag Sprite? 
pearl stratus
Shanghai with no main tank, and Spark with their second tank and no Krystal.
HLC was just awkward though
Both teams ran an anti-Goats comp on it, but neither team was playing Goats.
So it just got weird.
balmy wolf
Ive earned more bits in the preshow today than the ENTIRE STREAM yesterday
err tokens
limber pine
¯_(ツ)_/¯
balmy wolf
4 tokens in the last 17 minutes
pearl stratus
A lot of that could be them fixing stuff from last night
Logic would dictate.
Considering I got 9 tokens 18 minutes ago.
And I haven't watched the pre-show
At all.
I'm watching Shroud play Apex.
balmy wolf
Reign vs Mayhem gonna be fun
inner sequoia
I'll probably just get aa Toronto Defiant skin for Hammondd
hidden osprey
I just got 3 tokens 
pearl stratus
Most likely. Probably had to fix stuff, like usual.
jagged crater
Happened last year
wintry kraken
his moustache makes sense now
hidden osprey
jagged crater
Is there any room for taimou
feral jacinth
“Make 76 solider great again”
wintry kraken
this is seriously cringe 😄
pearl stratus
It's so bad its actually relatively funny.
feral jacinth
Why are they even doing this
wintry kraken
filling out time
hidden osprey
I miss the proper WP show now 😦
upper niche
WTF am I watching? :?
pearl stratus
Rip Seoul.
jagged crater
Desk budget cuts tho
pearl stratus
You know you were bad when you get represented by Doa.
bitter oxide
wtf is going on lmao
feral jacinth
I sunno
hidden osprey
yeah :/ the thorough analysis was always good to watch
pearl stratus
You mean Reinforce. Becaue there was no other analysis.
hidden osprey
How do Americans live with so many ad breaks on their TV programming?
feral jacinth
Weird that the fact that on twitch is like 30 secs delayed compared to on the owl websites
pearl stratus
Twitch is like discord.
It's fucking garbage.
But its free garbage.
So people like it and use it.
pearl stratus
OW website, MLG website both have better stream quality than Twitch.
In game client too
supple prism
ha, suck it fuel
inner sequoia
FUELS BAD MAN
pearl stratus
I would not be surprised if Hunters won today actually.
Guangzhou has lots of language barriers, and Chengdu has the power of Chinese Bullshit Comps.
Which might require a lot of communication to deal with.
feral jacinth
Why make teams with language barriers is my question
hidden osprey
Is Malik not part of OWL anymore?
pearl stratus
I mean him being back and him not having another breakdown aren't the same things.
Malik is still around, he was listed with the talent.
hidden osprey
haven't really seen him at all yet
sullen berry
What an absolute rager
pearl stratus
Dallas is probably still rated so low because realistically Aero's track record isn't as clean as everyone likes to say (cringe bad coaching in the World Cup, for instance), and a lot of new people to try and slot in.
sullen berry
3 for the price of 6 hours
feral jacinth
I hope long i like dafran
sullen berry
I don't trust in Jayne to have the same decision making he's reputed to have to translate instantaneously during the season
pearl stratus
Jayne is only the supports coach.
sullen berry
He won't last long dudes, if sephy gets to him
pearl stratus
They segmented out coaching on Dallas.
Honestly if I was playing Atlanta? I'd literally fuck with Dafran entirely as my tactic.
I would be intentionally doing everything in my power to trigger the fuck out of him.
pearl stratus
Like Seoul used to do to xQc.
solar trout
I am NOT an xqc fan, but he was punished harshly and unfairly imo
pearl stratus
I remember Seoul sending Munchkin on a flank to the Dallas spawn just to pulse bomb and kill him when he spawned.
pearl stratus
Because if you can trigger a fucknut, you win.
plucky rune
the new Atlanta Strat will be hard pocketing dafran on torb
pearl stratus
Aid is apparently an absolute unit.
solar trout
Poor aid
pearl stratus
Look at that buddha boy.
solar trout
outlaws <3
pearl stratus
Oh hey, Boink over Bani.
Dammit, I got one wrong.
I knew Matt and Linkzr wouldn't start.
pearl stratus
Spree is better.
humble moth
i hope not
pearl stratus
Spree has been playing D'va constantly for the last seven months.
So welcome to your new OT.
Muma - Tank, Spree - D'va, Danteh - ZArya, Jake - Brig, Rawkus - Zen, Boink - Lucio
There you go.
Keep up 😉
vagrant niche
@pearl stratus who from Defiant i need to watch on the perspective?
reef imp
All right, Toronto. Let's see what y'all can do.
feral jacinth
D p s..... wha unheard of
solar trout
yay mei
hidden osprey
Mei, classic
pearl stratus
They did this in Season 4 when they picked up Kkyky
sinful heron
Jake sticking on Mei
reef imp
Obliteration!
peak nacelle
g
analog lark
uh, for some reason it's not letting me see Boinks pov
pearl stratus
Nothing on their team worth going brig for.
hidden osprey
Grav 
analog lark
oh now it does
sinful heron
Bad Grav, might have been able to kill Winston
analog lark
just fucking 3 minutes in
pearl stratus
The armor would only hurt Sombra, and not even that much
reef imp
That's a waste of an ult. Would have been better served if the entire team was around.
hidden osprey
wtf are the Outlaws doing hahah
worn falcon
sinful heron
Big pog
pearl stratus
I bet at least one of those was just the random BS arrows too
reef imp
All right, Defiant, you're off to a good start.
pearl stratus
The corner spam ones you randomly blink into
sinful heron
Peeked once
pearl stratus
Those are so infuriating lol
sinful heron
Peeked second time boom
Second was a duel
WELL
Was the very start of a duel
Muma's Hammond is amazing
elder narwhal
the rewards from watching OWL.. those emotes. is there way they integrate into discord too?
ruby pendant
lol jake putting in work
sinful heron
Houston are so difficult to move when they set up
fossil tapir
Carpe is hacking
sinful heron
HOW DO YOU STOP HIM
fossil tapir
Cause Ana gets ran over by goats
fossil tapir
Which isn’t ran
sinful heron
RAWKUS NAUGHTY
white dock
anyone watching on the OWL mobile app? I cant turn off the closed captions on that for some reason
fossil tapir
Yet requires zen peel
hollow jasper
that point
crude flicker
I don't remeber seeing much moira yesterday
hollow jasper
was flipped so hard
supple prism
i dont think anyone takes moira anymore
supple prism
could take ana to counter trans but dropping dva for a sombra instead works better
sinful heron
Great round*
pearl stratus
I'm honestly glad that Jake and Linkzr don't have to focus on tracer anymore.
Makes their other heroes look acceptable again lol
whole mulch
There was like 1 moira yesterday
solar trout
dinkzr
whole mulch
from shaz
solar trout
love his widow
pearl stratus
Bebe played Moira too.
pearl stratus
There were actually quite a fewMoira's the other day.
Philly ran one for a bit, LAG, Spark.
hybrid helm
Omg... Houston fans are the worst... screaming so loud
pearl stratus
More than we've seen ever before eally.
supple prism
zen beats moira in every way
pearl stratus
*really
crude flicker
well obvi not
sinful heron
Jesus that damage on Muma
crude flicker
pro teams are using moira over zen
supple prism
moiras healing is a waste and her damage is crap with no utility
crude flicker
quite a few times
crude flicker
like that map?
hybrid helm
I think Moira is good but zen is better the better your team is.. the better they are at taking less damage and focusing targets
Moira is like a forgiving option
She can heal a lot but “just don’t take damage 4head”
whole mulch
Yeah the point of GOATS for the most part is to run over the enemy team's main tank
crude flicker
i think shrine was the map were tor picked moira over zen
supple prism
moira maybe if the enemy has more dps
whole mulch
It's not to sit there and get healed up
crude flicker
and first map houston ran one
whole mulch
so the discord is more valuable
sinful heron
I love that sound barrier into speed amp
whole mulch
Moira comes in I guess on slower maps or when the zen is struggling
sinful heron
OOF 2 SUPPORT ULTS
feral jacinth
Noice
whole mulch
and 180'd when he heard grav
hybrid helm
Envy ate self destruct LUL
whole mulch
holy shit
crude flicker
I think people over reacted about the dva change tbh
I play a lot of dva and still get a lot of good eats
sinful heron
POG
sinful heron
That was awesome
whole mulch
now you kind of have to keep it up
sinful heron
That was SUCH a good fight
whole mulch
when you see something coming
crude flicker
great starting round
mossy bone
boink with da huge boops
feral jacinth
Good 1st round
sinful heron
The zoning Dva bomb was amazing
jagged crater
rawkus without his dyed blond hair looks weird
sinful heron
Blocks out Brig for the entire engage
supple prism
pharah potg
mossy bone
i really need to get all access pass
whole mulch
That was such a good map
feral jacinth
also
sinful heron
That was a great game
feral jacinth
I have 9 tokens now
crude flicker
the all access pass audio is bad
feral jacinth
What are they doing
crude flicker
the in game volume is too loud
sullen berry
@jagged crater imagine rawkus not being free feed
crude flicker
can't hear casters
crude flicker
why no show stats in the middle :c
hybrid helm
I wish we had a volume mixer to change volume of game, music, casters, and crowd
Please twitch
feral jacinth
Oof that would be hard to execute
pearl stratus
That would be insanely hard to do
feral jacinth
like super hard to execute
humble moth
i miss mr x tho
pearl stratus
Especially for poor people prices of $14.99
You have to remember most sports things like that are a few hundred dollars a year by people.
Twitch is doing it for $15.
hybrid helm
Why hard? Have stream output 4 audio sources it won’t make it much more demanding in terms of bandwidth
solar trout
Yay linkzr c:
crude flicker
nice LInkzr
feral jacinth
Well think of it this way
They have to isolate 4 audio sources and the audience im sure cuts into the broadcasters mics, its hard to isolate that loud crowd
pearl stratus
Also they don't have any control in the audio, they'd need to get more feeds from Blizzard.
And again.
It's $14.99
feral jacinth
Yeah not practical for that price and it would be extremely complicated
hybrid helm
Music audio and game audio are isolated and you can isolate casters / analysts from crowd with 2 mics and a simple software
sullen berry
@pearl stratus for real, AAP would be priced higher again
pearl stratus
Mhm.
sullen berry
They saw no one wanted it last season
hybrid helm
Even if very little sound leaks it’s fine
pearl stratus
Just mute your first perosn.
And open a second stream with the normal view and audio.
I fixed it for you.
forest wharf
oh god outlaws game you guys ready for the banshees??
sullen berry
What
sullen berry
Blizz Arena is decent
pearl stratus
I like the less desk time/caster jail.
lavish zenith
banshees?
sullen berry
When you tailor a stage for their game
jagged crater
how did jake become such a meme
pearl stratus
@sullen berry They redid it entirely for this stage, if you didn't see the redo article.
feral jacinth
Its very nice
sullen berry
@pearl stratus I think I glazed over it
Also nice schedule
The perspectives not working like yesterday?
Or are they not supported by Edge
jagged crater
not working for me
pearl stratus
Excuse me.
sinful heron
Muma is so good
feral jacinth
Winston is going bananas
sinful heron
LOL
lavish zenith
man im just happy i get to see outlaws, usually theyre 2nd/3rd match and that is too late on my timezone
ruby pendant
is ivy good?
supple prism
somber
pearl stratus
Ivy is probably the best player on Toronto overall.
jagged crater
hate watchin good dps players on brig tho
sinful heron
Muma is carrying so hard
pearl stratus
Honestly Spree looked much much better on D'va than Coolmatt did
gilded peak
So Defiant is a disappointment?
pearl stratus
I wouldn't say that, overall.
sinful heron
Hardly, Houston is a very good team
pearl stratus
They're running their bad support line.
jagged crater
no they just plainly average
pearl stratus
Since Neko is a shit fuck
gilded peak
Sorry, I just got on and seeing Outlaw dominating
gilded peak
Neko is in Defiant?
gaunt acorn
guys the biggest owl news is
if you live in canada and win 100 tokens
you don't have to do the eligibility test again
pearl stratus
Rawkus isn't being a feed this game too
Which is new and exciting for Houston
Granted his dad died in season 1, so he was probably distracted a bit
ruby pendant
@pearl stratus lol always be making fun of rawkus
pearl stratus
I mean he did not play well in the second half of Season 1.
It's not really making fun of him,.
Its just what happened.
gilded peak
I just wanna see Dafran get destroyed T.T
balmy wolf
@gaunt acorn did you win 100 tokens already?
pearl stratus
But his dad did die, so I can get being distracted.
gilded peak
Yeah. not liking the interval times...
gaunt acorn
@balmy wolf yes, just a moment ago
balmy wolf
not a big deal
sinful heron
Eh, it's the same in literally every televised sporting event
balmy wolf
@gaunt acorn mod loot.
gilded peak
They could atleast do some cast of what happened and etc
gaunt acorn
i also got my drops from last night
balmy wolf
This is between individual rounds in the same map
gaunt acorn
so i've gained 121 tokens in the past 24 hours
sinful heron
Yeah it's 1.5mins, I'm ok with it
pearl stratus
You should probably never watch football then
balmy wolf
mod loot.
gilded peak
How??? I only got 18 tokens last night...
forest wharf
lol shit just checked my owl coins and like 18 slowly came in at once
gaunt acorn
gaunt acorn
@gilded peak 21 from watching the full duration yesterday, then 100 tokens today
balmy wolf
i watched full duration yesterday and got 3
gilded peak
Interesting
gaunt acorn
check now
balmy wolf
you're a lucky person
gaunt acorn
i got them an hour ago
gilded peak
Defiant = Chinese or Korean team?
forest wharf
yea same
balmy wolf
i have 12 total with the same view time as you
sinful heron
Linkzr has his ult, he's perfectly ok with dying there
jagged crater
dankteh
sinful heron
Great bomb
balmy wolf
imagine being a dps main
jagged crater
high hp high healing
balmy wolf
it the nature of the comp
jagged crater
so much ult to farm
jagged crater
common for rein to get back an ult in <10s because of zarya grav
dark bay
guys the commandcenter is broken for everybody right?
jagged crater
yes
dark bay
im not able to see any povs
balmy wolf
yes
dark bay
its good if you have prime
jagged crater
what prime do
jagged crater
thank you
sinful heron
That is not jake
sullen berry
@gaunt acorn so that 100 wasn't from random giveaway during stream?
pearl stratus
Aid and Ivy with premature ultimation.
supple prism
yep, 18
jagged crater
jake from state farm
sullen berry
@dark bay no POVs
sinful heron
Turns out
With 3 tanks and 3 supports
You don't have much burst
REIN KILLED BRIG
feral jacinth
Brig has a shield too smh
sinful heron
Brig shield broke and Rein turned
gilded peak
Oh wow, it is back and forth
hidden osprey
HOLY SHIT
solar trout
I really like danteh but that was a big oof
sinful heron
That was close
hidden osprey
Did they get time in the time bank?
feral jacinth
That zarya kill was game saving
gilded peak
Almost OT too
serene tendon
.5 monkaS
feral jacinth
Danteh should of ulted after aids ult
reef imp
Jeez, one flaw, and these teams rip it open and stomp on it.
feral jacinth
But didnt and then died
solar trout
Shouldn't danteh have ulted when their dva was stunned
pearl stratus
He got Brig stunned.
sinful heron
There has been some clutch stuns this map
pearl stratus
Brig stunned, then shattered.
gilded peak
He most likely was gonna use it after DVA got desuited
But waiting to pull the trigger costed him
pearl stratus
Waiting was proper though, if you're talking on the right side of the cart
Aim blew Trans early.
No point to grav the trans.
queen cipher
It was just an unfortunate series of events, though with such little time left and without zen's ult i think he should've popped it sooner
gilded peak
The early trans made no sense
It was obvious they were going to back away in a 6v4 fight
queen cipher
lmao
serene tendon
all those ult trades lol
feral jacinth
The ults jesus
queen cipher
press q to win
sinful heron
"EVERYONE PRESS Q"
feral jacinth
“PASS P A S S”
queen cipher
who can press q the fastest
pearl stratus
I like Matts Grandpa glasses.
gilded peak
That was a lucky matrix lol
sinful heron
No no, who can press Q the bestest
rapid locust
if only envy had ult
gilded peak
meant to do it on the fire strike, accidently got the grav XD
feral jacinth
Would have sucked of houston lost that fight after, would have no ults
rapid locust
envy is the dva
sinful heron
Gotta break def first push
rapid locust
did envy ult first
feral jacinth
Oh god the yelling
serene tendon
pls outlaws
sinful heron
ALL ON YOU BOY
gilded peak
YOU HAD 1 JOB!
rapid locust
they lost it
pearl stratus
Ivy wasting that Grav to get the two supports
rapid locust
they wasted their ults
solar trout
OOF envy
serene tendon
YEEWSSSS
sinful heron
I KNEW IT
rapid locust
wow
gilded peak
C9
serene tendon
THE C9
gilded peak
XD
pearl stratus
Rooooofl.
feral jacinth
C9
vagrant niche
WTF
quasi vault
oh no
sinful heron
I GODDAMN SAID
vagrant niche
WTTTTFFFF
pearl stratus
They all looked up at Muma.
coarse yoke
sea nein
sinful heron
MY C9 SENSE
gaunt acorn
rapid locust
not a real c9
sinful heron
NEVER WRONG
vagrant niche
HOLY SHIT
feral jacinth
balmy wolf
c9 bois
serene tendon
THE ADVANCED MUMA STRATS
sinful heron
NEVER EVER WRONG
gaunt acorn
that is a real c9
vagrant niche
BIGGEST C9
balmy wolf
ACTUAL C9
pearl stratus
@gaunt acorn Its not a C9.
supple prism
thats not what a c9 is
coarse yoke
B10
balmy wolf
we gout our first legit c9 of the season
feral jacinth
gaunt acorn
totally is
balmy wolf
i love it
sullen berry
Toronto C9er
rapid locust
just bronze play
solar trout
A8
pearl stratus
They NEVER touched it in the first point.
coarse yoke
that is a c9 @supple prism
balmy wolf
They did
vagrant niche
They touched it
hidden osprey
It's a C9 lul
vagrant niche
and then they left it
gaunt acorn
it's a c9 dude
vagrant niche
it was a LEGIT c9
balmy wolf
worse than a c9
lavish zenith
woaw
sinful heron
They 100% touched
gaunt acorn
i love how every time this comes up it gets more specific
lethal plank
That was a c9 they could've touched but didn't
sullen berry
@hidden osprey hey friend 👋🏻
hidden osprey
lmao dray
barren vector
That was funny af
gaunt acorn
"it's not a c9 unless it's on lijiang tower control center"
sinful heron
Since when does a C9 have goddamn rules
supple prism
they have to have to have player advantage on the point
hidden osprey
@sullen berry Hai Obi 
balmy wolf
@gaunt acorn c9s not require certain comps and maps
gaunt acorn
"it's not a c9 unless 3 or more members get off the point"
austere parcel
Get them to explain C9 as well as they did meta
vagrant niche
coarse yoke
they still had 5 men
solar trout
"it is only a c9 when cloud nine does it"
hidden osprey
Didn't recognise you with that nick
rapid locust
a c9 is when you win the fight but lose the point. they didn't fight they just walked off the point
mossy locust
C9 
gaunt acorn
they were right next to the payload, could touch it, and didn't
supple prism
go back and watch the original c9
gaunt acorn
it's a c9
coarse yoke
They were going to fight they didn't intentionally let them win
gilded peak
3 or more members get off the point? Thats the first I heard of it
balmy wolf
i only like xqc9s
gaunt acorn
@gilded peak i'm just making shit up
every time the c9 debate happens, someone has some definition
vagrant niche
someone on chat said Tactical C9
crude flicker
jfc show more stats
supple prism
c9 involves leaving the point for a pointless kill
crude flicker
:c
gilded peak
XD
coarse yoke
lmao
whole mulch
Does anyone have a clip
sullen berry
"It's only a C9 when you say it"
whole mulch
I missed it
mossy locust
thats so embarrassing
crude flicker
dude why did envy remech
gaunt acorn
for all it matters, a c9 is not capturing/contesting the point when you clearly could have (by mistake)
supple prism
this was just failing to pay attention to OT
gilded peak
If only where I live had a bar that supports OW....
pearl stratus
Where I live does.
feral jacinth
Its okay they only have to win 3 times in a row to to win
hidden osprey
If only OWL was broadcast at a reasonable time in my timezone 
coarse yoke
@supple prism no and yes, they were supposed to fight them on point but they didn't get on
gaunt acorn
the capture point was right there
feral jacinth
I live in california so im sure somewhere around people would care
sullen berry
@gilded peak turn my local sports bar into an esports bar is madness
pearl stratus
Oh we have bars that even do OW themed food and shit in Boston.
gilded peak
The only place in CA is LA with Valiant and Gladiator
sullen berry
We don't have a big enough community for it here
sullen berry
Cool @pearl stratus
feral jacinth
@gilded peak isnt this whole event in cali?
pearl stratus
I don't care about the new people.
gilded peak
Burbank only
sullen berry
Chef gamsu is the best thing Shanghai has in terms of their food situation
feral jacinth
And sf shock isnt cali?
pearl stratus
Did you see their New year spread?
sullen berry
If you can't eat even Chinese food in the states that's good
feral jacinth
Not shock sait
gilded peak
A city nearby LA.
feral jacinth
Wait
coarse yoke
as soon as the fight was about to begin the game ended lmao
pearl stratus
Shanghai is spoiled af now.
sullen berry
Just cook like a normal person 4Head 🍛
pearl stratus
William Ding threw a billion dollars at em.
pearl cedar
AID is actually so clean
im really happy with this toronto team
as someone from Toronto lmao
pearl cedar
everyone's calling them out for the C9 but
feral jacinth
Why
pearl cedar
the envy stagger fucked them
pearl stratus
Because Neko will be off suspension.
feral jacinth
Oof
pearl cedar
Idk if Neko is really better
sullen berry
In week 3
pearl cedar
if they scrimmed more with him then maybe
sullen berry
Neko will pop off compared to Aid
pearl cedar
but AID actually made the games super hard for houston
sullen berry
Not saying much but better for sure hell fare better
gilded peak
Neko is a tank, right?
pearl stratus
Neko was Bostons Toxiysatta.
gilded peak
Ah, nevermind. Must be thinking of a different player then
rapid locust
didn't envy and neko play together last season?
pearl stratus
No
pearl cedar
no
gilded peak
Ah.... lol
rapid locust
ah
pearl stratus
Both were basically released/traded for being kinda toxic 😛
molten skiff
oh damn is wolf and achilios casting?
pearl stratus
Toronto Toxic
pearl cedar
yea Wolf and Achillios casting
barren vector
nah
pearl cedar
i havent heard these two before
sullen berry
Neko, Meko, Mano, Sado, Miro (lol), Nero
gilded peak
So sad, From Hero to Zero (Miro)
pearl stratus
They're from Korean contenders.
pearl cedar
not as hype but fairly informative and accurate
pearl stratus
Most people are surprised they left.
pearl cedar
so the cast is solid
pearl stratus
I, at least, didn't expect them to leave Korean Contenders.
surreal lichen
Overwatch dead game
sullen berry
Always has been solid casters
pearl stratus
They loved it there.
pearl cedar
and I think the best part is that they're not biased for either team
sullen berry
That's the chemistry test they have going for them
pearl cedar
they're calling out the right players for carrying the fights
like if you guys watched yesterday's BU vs NYXL game
pearl stratus
I mean Wolf made a few mistakes.
pearl cedar
monte kept saying Mano had huge counter shatters
pearl stratus
But that seemed more in production, than in him.
pearl cedar
without crediting Meko for enabling the shatters by fucking fusions in the ass
sullen berry
Say what you want about monte or DoA, at least they have exceptional synergy from years casting every other moba
pearl cedar
They do yeah but im just highlighting the difference
pearl stratus
Monte just has that god awful pedophile moustache now.
pearl cedar
Wolf and Achillios are more accurate, I like DoA's creativity in a cast lol
pearl stratus
I'm surprised they let him in the arena with so many kids nearby.
pearl cedar
He's a married man now, relax 😛
pearl stratus
Thats the moutsache you see on every child molester on Law and Order SVU.
gilded peak
-_-"
pearl cedar
Alrighty I hope Toronto take's Volskaya
pearl stratus
Prove me wrong.
pearl cedar
I mean I dont really WANT to prove you wrong
gilded peak
So having a hitler mustache is bad too?
pearl cedar
so im not gonna make the effort xD
mossy locust
I mean you think that stops him
rapid locust
i agree endoken
pearl stratus
Honestly its his head shape/hair.
sullen berry
.. and I love it, low-key. His discord server is in on the anime villain archetype and dig any time he can bring attention to it @pearl stratus
pearl cedar
Butyeah Achillios and Wolf are more accurate on the cast and I really like it
pearl stratus
He has an awkwardly ovular head
forest wharf
rip the desk
pearl stratus
Doesn't look good with any facial hair.
pearl cedar
Ivy has weird ulti usage but maybe that's just team coordination
he has good zarya mechanics overall but just poor ult usage
pearl stratus
He panics
molten skiff
tbh as a seoul fan, i wanted them to be seoul's own caster when the actual home games become a real thing next season
pearl stratus
No long or short of it
pearl cedar
Also take a look at Aid vs Rawkus ult charge
molten skiff
wolf is insanely good at korean
pearl stratus
He's thrown out a few panic ults
pearl cedar
Aid died first but still had higher charge
molten skiff
like, his twitter is more korean than me
azure harbor
commandcenter is a nice thing, is it new for this season?
pearl cedar
oof high ground
forest wharf
yes
gaunt acorn
it's a preview of the all-access pass
pearl stratus
Rawkus caught up instantly though
pearl cedar
Toronto can get a fast time
azure harbor
@gaunt acorn cool
sullen berry
@azure harbor much improved, flick on the role streams
forest wharf
anyone know how long the trial lasts? ive heard 1 stage?
pearl cedar
ooof
pearl stratus
Muma reading the Rein swap.
pearl cedar
Ivy should've carried that
pearl stratus
4head
pearl cedar
Toronto had that fight won on paper
sullen berry
It ends today mate
pearl cedar
but the team execution isnt there
sullen berry
End of today's matches the free command centre will be disabled
forest wharf
ah ok
azure harbor
that ult
sullen berry
I'll have to use it all for the last match to convince me if I'll want AAP
forest wharf
i bought all access anyways, but was just wondering 🤷
barren vector
wow
sinful heron
Great fight
lavish zenith
that grav miss
sullen berry
Because a lot of teams are so hard to understand positioning when supports and tanks aren't given the attention they deserve
serene tendon
M M A
gaunt acorn
sinful heron
OOOOOOOF
azure harbor
barren vector
omg
sinful heron
Great grav
pearl stratus
Ivy figured he'd pushed Rawkus far enoughout
serene tendon
THAT WAS SOME FUCKING BM
pearl stratus
And dropped back to shield save his support
pearl stratus
And Rawkus pushed despite the low health
I'm getting Spark Ashe
Because giant bright pink Bob = Best Bob
sullen berry
@warm quartz shanghai hanzo represent here
azure harbor
Envy
warm quartz
Listen SHD ashe is best ashe
sullen berry
Thiccus mei
warm quartz
I still need pink reaper tho