Bruh
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
yeah but thats like being paid to torture yourself
i mean if anything
woohyal hates his shit the most
karmic grotto
Can't do anything about meta
Meta is literally being lead by Blizz making changes in heroes
Blizz decides the meta
green stump
The meta is community created, not developer
pearl stratus
Community created, regionally supported and stagnated.
jUsT gO gOaTs says NA and EU, as they don't have capacity to create their own shit.
mYsTeRy HeRoEs FuNtImE says China as they make weird as fuck combinations before the rest of the world.
Meanwhile potential rip for Stage 1 Dragons unless Guardian gets back up to speed quickly.
limber pine
what happened to Guardian
pearl stratus
Fearless is sick, and back in Korea for the moment.
Which means Guardian most likely as MT, which he was in Contenders about a year ago.
pearl stratus
xQc used to dip into masters constantly, when he was still playing pro.
Dafran almost did last night.
It's ladder.
Dafran dropped from like 4607 to 4050 or something like that.
It was painful.
sleek zephyr
He's constantly masters
balmy wolf
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/NN0NEGNDPAR81549652245653.png
Soon looks like he needs to take a fat shit lol
balmy wolf
damn that weight gain
limber pine
maybe it's muscle from all that carrying he did
and apparently surefour grew a beard
balmy wolf
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/OTK5K8S8TTSB1549652239246.png
pine lookin like an absolute unit
limber pine
river ember
Surefour is sick 😦
pearl stratus
I like how people find the Korean thing in OW amusing.
It's the same thing as baseball, football, basketball. White people just aren't that good except for rarities 😛
gloomy tapir
Cmonbruh
pearl stratus
Hey, they still got hockey. Tiger Woods killed the Golf thing though 😛
supple prism
white people are the coaches, quarterbacks, pitchers, team owners
gloomy tapir
torn cape
anyone know if the ny excelsior are doing anything to celebrate the opening of the owl?
like in the city?
ruby pendant
@torn cape only found this https://nyxls2wp.splashthat.com/
green jewel
nyxl is my jam
sullen berry
@limber pine been an underground Uprising fan since I started picking a team to win. They certainly have what it takes to pounce again for playoffs
I'm more fascinated by HuK's weight on their just as much as Bishop, Wizard, Moon and J1n
sullen berry
My problem are those who just still stuck with them instead of making it a cost for fanatic to accept the return
ruby pendant
@sleek zephyr you know where to catch the streams?
balmy wolf
sleek zephyr
hey, seeing owl teams not take these early matches seriously is much more fun 
either we'll see teams try to have fun
or goats.
round token
Intro to the gladiators uploaded here: ^_^ https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/aou7ol/introduction_to_the_la_gladiators
silk linden
do we know if OWL season 2 airing times will be more, less or just as "RIP EU" as last year?
sleek zephyr
@silk linden the games start at like 1am cet
very unlucky
OWL Team Scrims Event On ZP's channel ZP_TV
STARTING IN 1 HOUR 12 PM PST 8PM UTC 9PM CET
Matches :
Paris Vs : 
New York
Atlanta Vs :
Toronto Vs 
Philly
Washington Vs 
SF
Florida Vs 
Houston
fleet walrus
daring prism
worn falcon
Mickie <3
magic zinc
Community Countdown starting about now
Not really being casted sadly, although Jayne will be commenting ofc
limber pine
Day 1 of the OWL 2019 Season Community Countdown is live!
TODAY'S MATCHES
12:00 PM PDT: Paris Eternal vs New York Excelsior
1:15 PM PDT: Atlanta Reign vs Boston Uprising
2:30 PM PDT: Toronto Defiant vs Philadelphia Fusion
3:45 PM PDT: Washington Justice vs San Francisco Shock
5:00 PM PDT: Florida Mayhem vs Houston Outlaws
sleek zephyr
very unfortunate no one on their main heroes
balmy wolf
i was hoping to see some camera views of the stage
and some serious gameplay
kinda disappointed tbh
balmy wolf
chat actually imploding lol
sleek zephyr
lol
balmy wolf
give us some proper gameplay
peak nacelle
sadly not gonna happen
pearl stratus
None of these games are actualyl going to be serious.
If you thought they were, unfortunately, you're stupid.
The league starts next week. You're not going to show off a comp or a strat when you need to use them a week later.
Did plat chat actually expect people to try for this?
fast basin
I expect to see Effect on DPS. That is reasonable... and it's a strat that Dallas will use.
They ARE using strats they will use in the league! Like Pine is playing Widow
balmy wolf
dps in current year
fast basin
xD (If you couldn't tell, It's a joke)
I just like how Jayne's commentating like it's a serious match as they're playing 4 DPS
pearl stratus
They shouldn't have done scrims, they should have just made it all memes all week. Its what the teams are doing.
1v1's, more widow tourney stuff, etc.
fast basin
They should've just done something like the All Star Weekend but with teams instead of divisions...
Fun things!
Exactly what i'm thinking
Jayne dissing mercy?
balmy wolf
I like Jayne but he's kind of a boring caster.
pearl stratus
Could be worse.
balmy wolf
ZP died for this
pearl stratus
Could be Hamtornado etc.
fast basin
I don't get why ZP isn't an OWL Caster
pearl stratus
Those two are literally the worst thing in Contenders.
fast basin
I guess they need someone to make Contenders casting bearable?
pearl stratus
He's development talent now, honestly.
balmy wolf
ZP and Avast are a great caster duo
pearl stratus
He's a perfect person to train casters.
Showed it with Jake, showed it with Avast.
I wouldn't be surprised if they bumped his pay and literally just made him like 'Head of casting development'
gloomy tapir
Jlulke casting
fast basin
Honestly, I prefer ZP over a lot of Casters
balmy wolf
ZP explained why he wasn't picked up. Something because he didn't have a partner he had chemistry with, before he teamed with Avast
fast basin
my favorite Caster has to be Uber though
balmy wolf
I actually like Monte and Doa ngl
fast basin
That Australian voice 😉
sand violet
I'm totally glad they're streaming teams fucking around instead of contenders trials
sand violet
Who cares about the next generation of pro players 
pearl stratus
If it was Contenders Trials there'd only be 3k viewers anyway.
So 19k people would just be doing something else.
balmy wolf
this is trash
balmy wolf
i want preseason
sand violet
There's been 7k people watching every time I've seen
They could do OWL at a later time or another day instead of recording trials matches and then having them stream on fucking Monday morning
Like anyone is gonna watch that
balmy wolf
trash production team
they're not actually gonna scrim, who thought of that
This is a waste of time.
sand violet
Let's stream jjonak on widow and rein instead of serious trials matches
magic zinc
is this the legendary east coast ranked experience I hear so much about 
balmy wolf
When I saw them saying they were gonna scrim on stage I was hoping for some camera shots of them playing on stage and actually trying but instead we get meme games zzz
they should stream it on the playoverwatch or owl account, and stream preseason. this would make it more understandable to stream over trials
Next time take me out to dinner before you fuck me
Well at least JJonak is on Ana
sand violet
Jayne trying to analyze this shit like anyone is actually trying
round obsidian
not a fuel fan but their roster reveal video is by far the best out of all OWL teams
balmy wolf
I feel kinda bad for Jayne. Like he's expected to analyse but this is basically mystery heroes
magic zinc
Lmao their actual Twitch account 
balmy wolf
It's kinda hard to get a feel for how good a team is when they're just fucking around like this
Imagine if this is what their normal scrims are actually like lol
sand violet
Yeah let's stream teams actually throwing for memes instead of trials
Holy shit
No wonder contenders has a hard time getting views when decisions like this are being made
balmy wolf
I understand not wanting to reveal strats but come on.
Contenders trials died for this
gloomy tapir
Contenders trials died a long time ago
balmy wolf
sad but also sad
gloomy tapir
Ow died for owl
balmy wolf
Okay they're semi-trying now
karmic grotto
nsh
paris dont use tanks while nyxl does
pussies
shadowburn
nyxl still using tanks
pussies
so now paris respond to that
gg
sleek zephyr
???
limber pine
These games are incredibly stupid
green stump
Im finding them facinating
bold axle
@limber pine gets boring after the first few
rapid bobcat
What are the scores from the previous scrims?
ruby pendant
idk, didn't feel interested after the first match.
harsh tulip
NYXL beat Paris 2-0
Atlanta Reign beat Boston uprising 2-0
I didn’t see the end but Toronto Defiant vs Philadelphia Fusion was at 1-1
Didn’t see the other 2 games
gaunt acorn
Twitter
sullen berry
@gaunt acorn what's wrong with showcasing
sullen berry
Well half of those predictions went right out the window
Mayhem defending their loss when they flipped the format to mystery heroes
I just saw effort at synergy lost because a widow had to defend a point against two tanks
slow walrus
these scrims didn't count for anything
no one was on their main roles
no strats were given away
limber pine
yes we're aware
slow walrus
I figured, ppl looked like they were analyzing them which seems pointless to me
rare sonnet
Where? Wtf
jagged crater
what did i miss? there was some drama with the community countdown? Is this supposed to be the preseason?
balmy wolf
We were told it was gonna be scrims but the teams decided to play mystery heroes
jagged crater
who knows maybe they were scrims
dont be surprised to be dafran torb sweatin it up
cuz i wont be!
pearl stratus
@jagged crater TL:DR - Blizzard thought the teams would try hard the week before real matches started, giving away comps and maybe strats.
Teams thought Blizzard was retarded.
So they just played mystery heroes.
jagged crater
you're very welcome
peak nacelle
lmfaoaoaoao
balmy wolf
balmy wolf
COCCO IS TANKS COACH AYYYY
hidden vault
I rather cocco played
jagged crater
jayne supports coach 🤔
pearl stratus
He's not the right style tank for OW anymore.
So if Cocco played he'd just lose.
A lot.
Like a real lot.
Then be more sad.
Why would you hate Cocco so much you want him to be sad.
jagged crater
I miss envy
They should of u like d out since kind of indeed so the Petra can at least try symmetry's
sullen berry
god that autocorrect
jagged crater
daddy dhak
sleek zephyr
daddy dhak is masters ;(
jagged crater
the masters liphe
quartz heart
Is any body looking for a team to play with Na gold to high plat dm for more info
supple prism
odd place to post
jagged crater
when are the games starting?
supple prism
@quartz heart #lf-players-na
quartz heart
thank you
manic shore
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/261797229877133313/543927836432662558/IMG_20190209_165436.jpg
blessed image
limber pine
Day 2 of the OWL 2019 Season Community Countdown is live in 5 minutes!
TODAY'S SCRIMS (MYSTERY HEROES)
12:00 PM PDT: 
Dallas Fuel vs London Spitfire 
1:15 PM PDT: 
Vancouver Titans vs Los Angeles Gladiators 
2:30 PM PDT: Guangzhou Charge vs Los Angeles Valiant
3:45 PM PDT: 
Hangzhou Spark vs Seoul Dynasty 
5:00 PM PDT: 
Chengdu Hunters vs Shanghai Dragons 
supple prism
now
supple prism
can try esl_oneamongstmany, they are also streaming it
harsh tulip
Link?
supple prism
harsh tulip
Someone change the other link to this stream because this isn’t scuffed
vagrant niche
WOAAAHH
wait wait
they are playing already on ZP?
WTF why there was no announcement about this? @limber pine
magic zinc
Its in both #esports-news and here lol
harsh tulip
Dallas beat london feelsgoodman
slow walrus
mystery heroes is a way better format for this
it removes any possibility of a league level team strategy and replaces it with mercy jump rope
sleek zephyr
^
slow walrus
this is cool bc they're treating it seriously; they're targeting the carry heroes of the other team consistently
Shaz gets 3 HS kills on the other team? Haskal kills himself on doomfist just to get him off hanzo
fast basin
Who won the fuel - spitfire match
harsh tulip
fuel
pearl stratus
I think he'll be a good back up for a bit.
Him (and people like Hawk) still ran into issues under pressure with bad ults etc. So I think he'll clipboard carry for a bit.
balmy wolf
@pearl stratus click the link
pearl stratus
I saw it
worn falcon
Dogman left?
pearl stratus
Promoted.
languid cobalt
okay i'm refunding 🧀
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/ap4npi/you_cannot_spectate_different_povs_in_owl_after/?utm_source=reddit-android
pearl stratus
Hah. Shu's Widow is so ridiculous.
elder skiff
sullen berry
@languid cobalt not as taken aback compared to the OWL Jersey quality
@pearl stratus I don't know anyone who would deny Shu being bad at widow, it's a comfort pick for him
pearl stratus
No one would, he just got it in the Mystery Heroes though.
So it was fitting for the moment.
slate helm
supple prism
shanghai is up, can they win the match?
pearl stratus
Depends on RNG, lol
Chengdu getting the double Pharah was a little.
Unpharah for a bit.
foggy peak
Do you guys think that the All-Access pass is worth it?
supple prism
welp, looks like shanghai won 2-0
pearl stratus
@foggy peak Only if you're able to watch live. The Vod reviews don't have the first person, so break it down that way.
For me personally if I can watch at least 15 games live, I'll get it.
Makes it $1 a game.
sullen berry
Well now I feel validated for passing up on AAP
Yes it's worth it if you will be watching every game with your own spectator mode live and want a discount on some merch
But I've got no chance to enjoy either of those things with the current schedule
dawn basin
Youre getting 9 dollars in tokens and when u do your free prime month u get 500 bit (? dollars) so you’re pretty much getting all the value back
pearl stratus
I don't think it needs to be -every- game.
Just enough games you feel the value is within the price point.
For me $1 /game day is reasonable.
So if I can watch ~50% of the season live, it makes sense to me.
YMMV due to your value of a dollar
urban badger
Does anyone know where I can rewatch the pre-season stuff? None of the Twitch accounts have it.
limber pine
If the specific twitch channels don't have the vods, then they aren't anywhere
^has all of them
urban badger
thanks dude!
pearl stratus
Don't watch Day 1.
It was stupid.
Just start at Day 2 of mystery heroes.
It's basically just structured day 1
ruby pendant
14th is almost here!
jagged crater
valentine's day is first day? neat
bronze scroll
Isn’t there anything preseason today? Wherent the ashe 1v1’s today?
sleek zephyr
I think they're starting later?
bronze scroll
Oh okay, thank you
limber pine
@bronze scroll 6 PM PST
daring prism
grim jungle
Where was he before
grim jungle
Thanks
balmy wolf
can someone explain what exactly college ow teams are/do?
supple prism
@rapid bobcat mystery heroes vs hunters. Won 2-0
rapid bobcat
wow pog
sullen berry
@balmy wolf @balmy wolf pretty sure collegiate teams help you get into professional leagues through mentoring and playing in a team formed on campus, correct me if I'm wrong
@worn falcon he continues to take us places no Caster has taken us
Including his grandma's living room way back when
balmy wolf
ah ok ty
sullen berry
Bren sideshow and reinforce weren't mentioned now that I think about the casting talent 🤔
Reinforce notably absent from the desk at least
worn falcon
Reinforce has confirmed he is gonna do guest appareances
Wonder if i can handle Mica
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf basically what obi said + possible scholarships/money winnings/scouting for contenders/owl
worn falcon
didnt liked her so much in OWWC
balmy wolf
only reason i was even allowed to try out for some contenders teams and scrim as ringers is bc of collegiate
What sr do you have to be to get on a college team?
I’m assuming like really high right?
supple prism
they have a limited pool so they take what they can get
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf depends
So the top 30 teams are like 4.2k +
mine is top 11 tn, UH Premier, and is a 4.3k team
UoT i think is 4.4 and so is maryville
but they have dedicated like gaming houses and varsity esports scenes
I see
limber pine
Day 3 of the OWL 2019 Season Community Countdown is live!
TODAY'S MATCHES
Ashe 1v1
6:00 PM PDT: 
Guard vs Kyo
6:15 PM PDT: Pine vs Surefour
6:30 PM PDT: Danye vs Diya
6:45 PM PDT: Alemao vs Bunny
7:00 PM PDT: Sayaplayer vs Eileen
Ana 1v1
7:30 PM PDT: Asher vs Moth
7:45 PM PDT: Snillo vs Twilight
8:00 PM PDT: Masaa vs Idk
8:15 PM PDT: Rawkus vs Closer 
8:30 PM PDT: Fahzix vs Zunba
supple prism
and shanghai wins another
pearl stratus
Diya was never bad.
Diya was just forced to flex around a lot of people.
In terms of hitscans he's actually quite up there when you let him play when he's good at.
Preseason Diya Widow in S1 was actually pretty nice.
If you watched the Stage 4 Diya Widow against Houston it was basically that. But they put Undead on Widow since he had no flex 😦
pearl stratus
Eileen is fucking Saya in the mouth.
I'm so glad theres more good chinese talent in OWL this year.
Lot of surprises for people.
harsh sleet
Hey does anyone want to play overwatch leauge fantesy
gilded peak
Never doubt Saya
north beacon
gilded peak
Are they still talking? Wow...
hidden vault
What else can saya play??
modern cypress
Who would y'all say is the best pro at each Hero?
modern cypress
My list would probably go like this
fast basin
i confuse myself
modern cypress
Ana: Jjonak or Ryujehong
Ashe: Effect or Surefour
Bastion: ??Kolorblind?
Brigitte: Profit
D.Va: Space
Doomfist: Sparkle
Genji: Shadowburn
Hanzo: Libero
Junkrat: Jake or EQO
Lucio: Jecse or Custa
McCree: Pine
Mei: Rascal
Mercy: Anamo
Moira: lol is there a pro who's bad at Moira?
Orisa: Gesture
Pharah: EQO
Reaper: Taimou or Birdring
Reinhardt: OGE
Roadhog: Bdosin
Soldier 76: AKM or Dafran
Sombra: Danteh
Symmetra: Seagull
Torbjorn: Mangachu
Tracer: Profit or Saebyolbe
Widowmaker: Carpe
Winston: Fissure
Wrecking Ball: Jjanu or Fate
Zarya: Spree
Zenyatta: Jjonak
sullen berry
I'd rather factor more Season 2 players, which most you need contenders knowledge or just go with recent game biases
Personal Preference Tanks: Meko D.Va, Gesture Orisa, Fragi Rein, Kyb Roadhog,
GuXue Winston, Fate/Panker Wrecking Ball, Decay Zarya
D.Va
Orisa
Reinhardt
Roadhog
Winston
WB
modern cypress
I tried to get notable contenders and Season 2 Players like Sparkle, Jjanu, Jecse but I didn't include a lot because they haven't competed at the highest level so its hard to compare them to people who have
sullen berry
that's true
on the surface, chengdu have a lot of gray area as much as the players on washington
I'm comfortable with the fact that the league is not representative the very best players in each role
but it's hard to argue if you are basing it on either team synergy vs individual performance
and tanks can be harder to assess (read: not asses)
nobody is screaming that jiqiren is a great tank based on recency bias or his mechanical ability
modern cypress
yeah i was more trying to go off of individual skill but its impossible to remove the team factor unless your on a trash team and still stick out e.g Sayaplayer last seaon
sullen berry
Ado Pepehands
modern cypress
Oh yeah i'm excited to see how he plays this season but i can't imagine Justice performing super well regardless
sullen berry
I'm in the unpopular camp
modern cypress
You big on Washington?
sullen berry
I don't think they can be that low, it's just against the rest of the teams they have shown no signs of confidence
people are still snoozing on the new rosters based on assumptions that don't line up very well
modern cypress
Yeah it'd be awesome if like Washington or Chengdu turned out to be really good but theres still so many unknowns its hard to say that they will with confidence
sullen berry
you know whose unknown
spitfire
you cannot explain how their skill ceiling is so high
modern cypress
its ridculous
sullen berry
but then fail to address what went wrong between stage 3 and 4
modern cypress
For at least stage 1 when people expect GOATS to be play at a lot at least in certain maps i cant see London doing super well because Gestures Rein is OMEGALUL
But like you said if they play at their peaks they're unstoppable anyway
sullen berry
I also don't consider nyxl going for a perfect first stage
they face defiant, seoul and shock near the tail end of their stage
modern cypress
yeah the competition has increased so much at the top I can't see any team dominating like NYXL did last year
Do they face Spark first stage?
sullen berry
NYXL face spark once during the season
but are likely to face off in stage playoffs
modern cypress
I could see Spark being a massive upset team to the season 1 giants
If they can get Guxue playing at 50% of his potential it's gonna be season 1 Fissure times 2
worn breach
@marble dock i am very interested.
tawny sigil
Considering the state of activision blizzard, do you guys think this is the last OWL season
i guess its not to outrageous to say this could be the last one, so enjoy it?
vagrant cargo
I doubt it heavily
torpid charm
Twitter
vagrant cargo
Gamsu is a good fearless backup
torpid charm
Indeed he is
Especially with Fearless having an injury rn, not a bad pick up but I just can’t fathom it
A lot of the original Uprising roster is gone so it makes sense
sullen berry
all the korean players are leaving
vagrant cargo
And HuK is an Idiot
vagrant cargo
Ye
sullen berry
@tawny sigil up to hundreds can't be that tough, but i see your concern
tawny sigil
what was the state of heroes of the storm, does anyone know?
was it going up and this esport can made no sense or was it going down hill and predictable?
sullen berry
if you're thinking they've got a pile of quicksand drowning by the 2nd year, okay
I just believe once profit sharing hits in season 3
things get much more turbulent
tawny sigil
well we dont know what the viewer ship for season 2 will be... if its lower than season 1... they gonna can it i think
sullen berry
All of the mass marketing effort that all the franchising dollars went towards branching the OW League is a significant departure from HGC
most of it like a coca cola or a disney XD broadcast are nothing compared to more niche gaming TV channels
they'll need to step the viewership a whole lot on average
they can measure it as 300% higher viewership at its peak last season or whatever
but its still riding the esports trend far better than when hots was around, I hardly expect this year to be the end all
tawny sigil
im not following it enough to know what the public thinks
its all based on the public in the end
vagrant cargo
I mean they expected black Numbers in season 3
And already got that with season 1 @tawny sigil
tawny sigil
what does black numbers mean
vagrant cargo
big Profit
tawny sigil
right now this is the only game activision has left
balmy wolf
On which time will the overwatch league begins?
friday on 1 AM
but like NYC time etc
balmy wolf
Thank's
limber pine
👍
pearl stratus
It's an interesting pick up on the Gamsu thing, but if Fearless couldn't keep up with the KDP people Gamsu should be okay.
Only worry is how much Gamsus Rein has evolved since Season 1.
Because it was a lower-mid tier Rein then, so hopefully we've gotten a lot of work into it.
pearl stratus
Alemao has the better Lucio.
In my opinion
So I'd probably play him over Kellex.
pearl stratus
Best Lucio pick up for this year though goes to Yveltal imo though.
Dudes game sense is just stupid.
balmy wolf
@pearl stratus I'd imagine Kellex would start though, at least for the first few games, since he already has an established synergy.
What does everyone think about Shanghai apparently picking up Gamsu?
limber pine
It means they don't like Youngjin as a starter either
which is weird because liquipedia lists him as a dps
balmy wolf
So I'd imagine Shanghai starter DPS would be Diem and DDing if Younjin doesn't start?
Diya has already said he's gonna be a sub for the first few weeks until he can build his confidence back.
pearl stratus
@limber pine Both Youngjin and Guardian played tank prior to KDP.
Which is why they were the most likely to flex to it.
The Youngjin starting thing was in replacement for Fearless.
If Gamsu is up to speed he'll probably start at Main Tank.
balmy wolf
Gamsu's Rein wasn't too hot last season. That could be an issue if it's still not up to scratch.
pearl stratus
Yeah. Just hard to tell, its been 6-7 months now.
balmy wolf
I imagine 6 months is plenty of time to improve.
But thrusting someone into a new team that he has no synergy with two days before the league is supposed to start can't be too good.
He's never scrimmed with them before, and now he's gonna be expected to start. I feel kinda bad for Gamsu.
pearl stratus
I mean he's not scrimmed with them before that we know.
Things like this could have gone through forever ago.
I remember there were rumors of a Shanghai signing like 2-3 weeks ago
People assumed it was a support to replace Luffy.
But it could have been Gamsu.
hidden vault
Was Gamsu a better main tank compared to Fearless in season 1?
gloomy tapir
Zzz
balmy wolf
@hidden vault It's kinda hard to tell tbh, when he had such terrible supports and a mediocre off-tank to back him up. He's supposed to actually be really good, if he has a good team that can enable him, he could shine in S2 when he gets back.
gloomy tapir
Literally only liked for pink skins and merxh
balmy wolf
And Spark is actually stacked af.
Although the amount of pink skins in the game is unbearable
marble dock
Hosting a highly competitive fantasy league with prize pool. If you are interested just DM me . 7/10 full
hidden vault
@balmy wolf apparently a few people here think he is
balmy wolf
Gamsu had the advantage of a good team to support him though.
balmy wolf
Note was actually pretty good. Definitely above average imo.
balmy wolf
I don't know where "Note was pretty mediocre" is coming from. He may not be as good as someone like Space but he's definitely a top-tier Dva in his own right.
pure umbra
Hello
marble dock
Hosting a highly competitive fantasy league with prize pool. If you are interested just DM me . 7/10 full
pearl stratus
Note was mediocre is the same reddit rhetoric as Gesture being this horrible Rein. Apparently not being top 3 is the same as being bottom 5.
Since reddit is retarded.
balmy wolf
I have an old laptop that i'm thnking of setting up to constantly stream overwatch league channel 24/7
and just refresh every once in awhile
ruby pendant
think about your electric bill
brisk sand
La glads best owl team
torpid charm
tender osprey
@torpid charm I hope this new addition can help them win in ow season 2.
tender osprey
fr?
river ember
XQC
tender osprey
WTF
river ember
Is in GLADIATORS LEGION
brisk roost
supple prism
$10 says he will rarely play anyway
sweet ibex
xQc back in the game HELL YEAH 7
short vault
sub tank
limber pine
i'm missing so much news
balmy wolf
hidden vault
Hmmm would fusion take over as starter for MT or Axxiom?
sand violet
Hey that's pretty epic
limber pine
I only know Fusions is a very aggressive Rein
sand violet
xQc on GL
limber pine
so maybe it depends on what they are trying to do
limber pine
Day 4 of the OWL 2019 Season Community Countdown is live!
TODAY'S MATCHES
6v6 Capture the Flag
6:00 PM PDT: Atlanta Reign vs Chengdu Hunters
6:45 PM PDT: Paris Eternal vs Guangzhou Charge
7:30 PM PDT: Toronto Defiant vs Hangzhou Spark
8:15 PM PDT: Washington Justice vs Vancouver Titans
he'll only play when panker need to play in OWL
marble dock
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Need 1 more Draft tomorrow
balmy wolf
git gud
balmy wolf
moira
aim
okay. you exposed yourself too early also this is OWL channel
digital zealot
naw ik just messin
pearl stratus
Paris confirmed a shit team.
Had to go goats just for CTF.
Drop in rankings to 20th for everyone.
Oh okay, Nico went Mei. Not fully goats anymore. 19th.
Btw - I mentioned earlier Gamsu most likely has been working with Shanghai for a bit. I'd assume its true by the latest post:
Unless his absolute first thing to do was go to dinner, lol
marble dock
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Need 1 more Draft tomorrow
upper niche
yikes, this casting :/
gaunt acorn
ggs 
green stump
Holy, did xqc sell out? Guess that explains his big deal
sullen berry
@upper niche would be easier on my ears if I just muted the audio
sweet ibex
Easy Visa, going back to his homies, getting paid for Streaming and being able to play in OW Tournies when needed.
That's an easy yes for him.
balmy wolf
yeah and its a win win for that contender team
no one watches contenders but you get xqc? people will watch
sweet ibex
Nothing gets more attention than a simultaneously Famous and Infamous character
Both those who love and hate will watch shit for him
Truly a 5Head move
balmy wolf
Yep
sullen berry
Same situation with people watching Contenders Pacific for the first time
They figured it out
What's next, Moxy joins Contenders South America?
jagged crater
sub main tank for contendies team 😮
balmy wolf
XQC IS BACK BABY TO GET ROLLED BY CONTENDERS INSTEAD OF OWL
sullen berry
Imagine more viewers during NA contenders vs OW League's lowest
balmy wolf
Fusions still in England though.
He hasn't stated when he's going, and none of his friends know either.
limber pine
Hopefully Axxiom’s Rein is good
pearl stratus
@limber pine His Rein is better than his Winston, I'd say. I can't say 100% its better than Fusions but its solid.
The biggest thing is how are they going to fill.
They're missing Colourhex for two games.
I would assume they sold off Gamsu and will take that money to pick up a DPS.
But they've got...
A day.
Also as for people watching LAG Academy just for xQc.
I doubt it.
Because he's not better than Panker.
Which means he's never playing unless Panker is sick.
So if he does play a game, they'll watch.
But his chances of playing a game are low.
limber pine
oh yeah I forgot colourhex is missing for two games
maybe Kellex will play dps /s
maybe blase on zarya and alemao on brig for GOATS
pearl stratus
Yeah, with Fusions still in the UK (I think) they actually only have six players right now.
NotE, Kellex, Aimgod, Alemao, Blase, Axxiom.
limber pine
still not sure why they don't sign somebody like Logix
at least for depth
Or Gods
or bring Klaus up
pearl stratus
I mean there was the rumor that Logix turned down initial offers because he felt they were too low.
Might have burned the bridge.
worn falcon
Kellex on dps heh
kind path
Can someone explain why the Feb 10 scrims were turned into Mystery Heroes? I didn't understand
worn falcon
Because sillyness and they're not gonna reveal their strats
ruby pendant
didn't watch the feb 10th, but the 1st day scrims were pretty boring
was fun seeing the players play but after a while it got lame.
balmy wolf
If I'm logged into twitch on my ps4 and my twitch and ps4 are both linked with my bnet, I get viewer credit for watching OWL there right?
pearl stratus
You should unless they change something @balmy wolf
Make sure you do anything country required as well if you're outside the US.
Like I think Canada has to do a math problem to get tokens.
balmy wolf
In the US
jagged crater
boston not only lost gamsu, they lost their chef 😦
ruby pendant
Spark #1 Overwatch team!
jagged crater
boston did well beyond expectations in season 1 (3rd place in overall regular season), yet only 2 players remain from previous season. That's unfortunate
balmy wolf
jagged crater
are the chinese players speaking korean?
kind path
might not be the best but I will be rooting for them all the way
pearl stratus
They're going to Korean @jagged crater. Both Guxue and Krystal play on KR servers so they at least have -some- preknowledge. But not enough for vods etc.
jagged crater
guxue is playing a comm heavy role, wonder if he's starting early in the season. Competing with nosmite for MT, who i dont know from x6
tawny sigil
is there gonna be an MLG stream this year?
twitch quality cap is pretty low its so noticable doing certain ults
mlg streams didnt do that when they had them
limber pine
I assumed there would be, but Blizzard had also done a "survival guide" for the last few stages in S1 and haven't done that yet either
tawny sigil
i know last year they had it for a few days then i think the deal felt through
not sure what happen, dont even know if it came back later on
ruby pendant
anyone got prediction for who will win tomorrow's games?
sleek zephyr
whos playing
limber pine
supple prism
come on Fusion
sleek zephyr
london will take that imo
LDN > PHI
NYE > BOS
SEO > GLA
HZS > SHD
but it's an even matchup
I'd like to see how they implement guard into the roster
is krillin 18?
balmy wolf
Yes
Guard is probably gonna be used as a backup for Birdring in case something bad happens to him, but I can see him being run in certain comps where Sombra could be useful, since Guard is probably the best Sombra on Spitfire.
I doubt Krillin will get much playtime unless Bdosin is sick.
sleek zephyr
Apparently krillin was picked up from ranked
first i've seen any team do that (jjonak has a history of playing on teams in Korea apparently)
balmy wolf
Krillin played in Open Division and Contenders Trials, but didn't get past that.
His team went 3rd in Open Division but only 8th in Trials for Contenders Korea S2, and then next OD went last place
sleek zephyr
Ahh
balmy wolf
But London must have seen something in him to pick him up.
sleek zephyr
@rapid bobcat nope you need the OWL access pass
and even then it's not in the viewer
it's on twitch
balmy wolf
JJonak played in an Apex qualifier in 2017, and was briefly signed to LW Blue before they were picked up by NYXL
sleek zephyr
Ah
balmy wolf
Apparently he played in a few small tournaments in Korea before he was picked up, so people saying "he was picked up straight from ladder" are kinda exaggerating it a little.
But I'm just glad my boi Fusions is now a full-time Boston member.
marble dock
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Need 1 more Draft tomorrow
sleek zephyr
Yeah bro
But i think hes still in EU
so axxiom will be playing the first match
how the fuck is boston gonna play their first 2 matches with 1 dps
Okay luckily enough their 1st match they wouldnt win anyway
but 2nd might be an undeserved loss to outlaws
balmy wolf
Kellex apparently can play DPS
So if that's the case the starting lineup would be Kellex and Blase on DPS, Axxiom and Note on tank, Aimgod and Alemao on support
balmy wolf
Bit of a risky lineup
sleek zephyr
Could be worse
sleek zephyr
Who would play what in goats
thats where im confused
alemao on the lucio aimgod on the zen
but who would be on the brig
balmy wolf
Kellex would probably be Brig
sleek zephyr
ah
balmy wolf
It's probably the safest option
Not sure how good Blase's Zarya is
He's more known for his Genji and Doomfist.
balmy wolf
He used it a few times on Gladiators Legion
Before GOATS was meta
He's quite good at him
balmy wolf
Unless Boston use their profits from selling Striker and Gamsu to get a dedicated hitscan player
sleek zephyr
if you compare that to almost every other team they are clearly outmatched
sleek zephyr
and they aren't really bolstering an amazing tank or support line
sleek zephyr
imo it doesnt compensate for the lacking dps
balmy wolf
Yeah but Boston could just run GOATS and never need to play DPS
sleek zephyr
true
balmy wolf
They can just do GOATS until Colourhex's suspension is over, which is only two games
sleek zephyr
I'm just concerned about their match vs houston
balmy wolf
But Axxiom and Fusions are really good main tanks, and people are sleeping on Aimgod's Zen
sleek zephyr
As much as i want them to win it doesnt look likely
balmy wolf
Houston was gonna be a tough one to beat either way. Houston's tankline will be a great asset in GOATS
sleek zephyr
mhm
balmy wolf
Especially if Spree plays Zarya
balmy wolf
But offtank players are in Dva jail so I'd imagine one of the DPS would be on Zarya
FeelsBadMan
Twitter
karmic grotto
Lmao
sleek zephyr
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428608933188468736/544166480464445442/unknown.png
do you think when oge plays winston
he just sees a mirror
lucid ermine
Woah
balmy wolf
Tfw Tracer and Widow not meta
marble dock
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Need 1 more Draft tonight
balmy wolf
Can someone send me the eastern(Netherlands) Time?
gloomy tapir
Effect looks edgy af lol
austere cargo
Nyxl wins this season
upper niche
So just a reminder guys if you want a match schedule ICS link to add to Google Calendar from the tool I've made available, so it shows it in your local time zone etc: http://owl.tjsr.id.au/calendar?format=detailed&scores=true
That variant will give score lines updated after the matches occur.
limber pine
I wish I could believe you @sullen berry
spark lintel
I got a question why doesn't OWL just play on the latest patch?
errant cobalt
cuz there lazy
spark lintel
It seems really bad for their viewership if most their audience plays on the current patch
balmy wolf
Fusions is in LA
https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/1095782132029386752
I wouldn't expect him to play for a couple weeks though, until he's had time to adjust to the time difference and scrim with the team on not 100 ping
hidden vault
They still lack a dps
modern cypress
Rank these Tracer specialists from season 1 (people who just mainly played Tracer)
Asher
Bunny
Munchkin
Snillo
hidden vault
SBB
gaunt acorn
sick bloom
I'm still wondering why boston gave up gamsu
supple prism
for fusions i guess
supple prism
31
balmy wolf
do we get currency if we watch owl rn?
gaunt acorn
@balmy wolf no
balmy wolf
dang
gaunt acorn
not to mention it's already over
little holly
I'm 16 hours ahead. 8am 15th CST
gaunt acorn
of course
balmy wolf
which team did you pick?
gaunt acorn
worn falcon
Are we ready for OWL
gaunt acorn
worn falcon
balmy wolf
(idk what team that is)
also
oh dray you live up there
i forgot
I learned that a year or 2 ago during... something else
worn falcon
Force of nature, is huh? Vancouver titans?
balmy wolf
gaunt acorn
@balmy wolf if you manage to find all 8 of the expansion cheers, let me know
the o.w. doesn't have them yet
and nobody has catalogued them all, to my knowledge
i want to upload them here
balmy wolf
well theres spark from spark discord
gaunt acorn
yeah, same with atlanta
balmy wolf
i have all the spark emotes if you need em
gaunt acorn
still mising 6 others, though
balmy wolf
i have the twitch ones too granted they'er the same
gaunt acorn
and i'm wondering if some inaugural teams changed theirs
@balmy wolf i've uploaded all the twitch emojis to my server
gaunt acorn
i'll add that one now
same with atlanta
i need toronto, vancouver, paris, guangzhou, chengdu, and washington still
digital nacelle
same
gaunt acorn
i got quite a few 100-token-drops over season 1
balmy wolf
i got 2 100 drops iirc
balmy wolf
I probably didn’t watch as much. I work evenings during most owl streams
I’m gonna try to watch them on mobile this season if that works
gaunt acorn
yeah, it does
pearl stratus
I finished last season with something like 700 tokens left.
After buying 3-4 skins.
I got quite a few 100 drops.
gaunt acorn
i have 51 skins atm
team skins
not including the grey owl skins
i have all 9 of those too, though
long terrace
They're pitting fran and emongg against each other xD
copper solstice
Good
river ember
yes reinforce is back
gentle umbra
something more to look forward to
mint turtle
Idk how many owl skins I have tbh, I got all they greys, all of Shanghai and all of the old and new team skins for tracer, 4 for genji, and probably 10 more on random heroes I have gold weps for
gaunt acorn
zarya is my main but i don't have any owl skins for her
well, i have one, but it was from all-access pass
i don't like her default hair so
champion zarya/siberian front > all
cinder jay
Tracer main detected
balmy wolf
lol
mint turtle
still missing washington, but idc really i dont like the colours
sullen berry
Wow
mint turtle
damn, im gonna check my other accounts now, i might be over 100
balmy wolf
i wish i didnt here ding every single time someone posts a message
sullen berry
How do you turn down Washington skin of all the skins you don't have?
mint turtle
honestly dont like their colours at all
tbf though dont listen to me, my fav is Vancouver titans
sullen berry
I haven't even considered picking a Dynasty OR a Titans skin
mint turtle
i have 29 on my lvl 300 account, 22 on my lvl 180 comp account, 3 on a soldier account and 0 on my play with irl friends account
139 in total
jfc
whats wrong with me
sullen berry
Don't know
Which of them are concession skins
Mine are all a mix of twitch streams and team discord giveaways
mint turtle
well, i have the access pass skin pack which was like 7 or 8 skins, i got a couple hundred tokens from owl, but the rest were bought throught out the year
never entered any giveaways
probs spent like £500 
analog lark
I have 4, Seoul McCree, and Hangzhou Reaper, Sombra and Rein
On one of my other accounts i have San Fran Lucio and Rein
verbal roost
Season starting tomorrow? 😮
gaunt acorn
yes
verbal roost
😄
hazy drift
Who do you guys go for??
gaunt acorn
titans & fusion
forest raven
Glads and Reign
rare sonnet
Eternal 
vestal basin
spitfire or spark just bc i like the colors of both of them lmao
vocal hollow
Glads, just cuz Surefour xQc
hazy drift
@vestal basin relatable
rapid bobcat
11 hours to go
frank sierra
Who thinks Shanghai dragons will get a win this season?
gaunt acorn
@frank sierra zero chance they go winless again
frank sierra
Then who will they beat?
vocal hollow
me
limber pine
An expansion team
Or Florida/Boston/Houston
They essentially have a brand new team
inland kestrel
I see them beating Florida, Boston, Chengdu (maybe)
gaunt acorn
they're a mid-tier team now at the least
hell, they just signed gamsu too
give them some credit
it's virtually a new roster
gaunt acorn
mainly gamsu + geguri @bold axle
there's guardian and fearless too
guardian may play rather than geguri, we don't really know yet
fearless is basically benched, though -- gamsu was his replacement
tight zephyr
Fusion gonna get that w in a revenge game
pearl stratus
I think we may, personally, see more Guardian.
On paper he's a better D'va than she is.
Btu thats paper, not scrims or cohesion.
Also right now no analyst has them under 10 that I can think of in terms of power rankings.
hybrid helm
London gonna rek Fusion tonight
torpid charm
limber pine
@left turret stop spamming the server with that. Nobody cares if you are streaming Apex.
pearl stratus
I'm interested to see tonights SHD Spark game. Going to be a pretty tough one for both teams overall.
green stump
When is the broadcast starting btw ?
tight zephyr
green stump
Hmmm so 5 my time
Gonna miss some of the games then cause i got to go out for Valentine's....
pearl stratus
The earlier games are whatever imo.
Philly v. London should be good, then the mid two are meh, then Spark vs. Dragons.
Basically today will be: Good match, NYXL, LAG, Good match.
Theoretically you have a potential for a Fissure grudge match, but I'm not expecting much.
limber pine
@pearl stratus what are your final standings?
sleek zephyr
who are LAG playing?
somber yewBOT
No such team 'LAG', for full teams list please type !teams
limber pine
!teams
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
limber pine
!schedule GLA
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
limber pine
@sleek zephyr ^^
pearl stratus
@limber pine For rankings?
limber pine
yes rankings sorry
pearl stratus
Honestly nothing major changed. I dropped Boston a few slots, moved Shanghai up a single slot.
limber pine
Playoff:
Play-in:
Out:
I haven't decided if I'm going to change anything yet
probably switch boston and shanghai
pearl stratus
As of right now, with no changing in signings I actually have Boston out of play-in.
Shanghai I've had as Play-in since the start.
limber pine
makes sense
sick bloom
Boston is screwed this year
pearl stratus
But depending on Gamsu's integration I could see them actually going into Play Off.
pearl stratus
Tank was honestly one of my shakier parts of their roster.
Fearless and Luffy were my big hesitations.
Yeah I think our big differences are I have Spark and Seoul switched.
I'm just forever not impressed with Seoul.
But I am impressed by Sparks roster.
Though I think it depends on how long their integration time with Guxue and Krystal is.
Because they need Krystal on DPS. Bazzi isn't strong enough.
limber pine
yeah Krystal is legit
Playoff:
Play-in:
Out:
so yeah, I think this we'll be what it is
pearl stratus
I still think you have Seoul too high, but I won't argue too much 😛
solar trout
Wow, lots of games are gonna be shown on espn3 this stage according to overwatchleague schedule