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to balance it, i imagine there's some hefty charge time for it
Since historically lasers aren't eaten by DM.
might not be one shot perse
Which a hit scan that can't be eaten by D'va is going to be insane, if they ever figure it out.
it could be a charged beam
I'd drop it out of one shot, for balance purposes, yeah.
longer you charge, more damage you deal
But its something they're looking at.
i can see it working
Railguns and burst rifles pop up constantly in their development games basically.
Which I can see because of how Orissa got developed.
Someone was fucking around and put a Bastion Gun on Rein's arm for one of their development games.
And they were like ".... Hey. Thats not bad."
I'd like to see more abilities that are like...
Recharge reduced when you hit. So you get punished for spam/whiff.
like a lesser genji dash
people suggested mccree roll cd goes down if you get hs
i like these designs tho it promotes snowballing which can be fun if it isn't easy to pull off
I like it in concept but its impossible to balance imo.
Because you have to assume a pro will hit the requirement near 100%
Whereas some gold kid may get luck to get 40%
Look at Hook % disparity alone.
works out for genji since it's a lot more situational
So I'm finally watching the watchpoint that happened recently
good watch
So day one
vs 
My prediction
will win
vs 
Winner: 
vs 
Tough one, but i think
will win
vs 
Tough, but
will win their first game
SHD is gonna be way better
hard to tell with LAGLA until we see them w/o fissure lul
NYXL and LDN will always be nutty
Fusion will be better than last year, they've only upgraded tbh
Seoul I have no idea about honestly they're weird
BUP is probably middle of the pack but they're not gonna be like their stage 3 team at all
> 
do I like the team colors better? yeah
but SHD has 4 Kongdoo Panthera players, they got 2nd in KR contenders and will have good synergy
i'm just a little upset that Vancouver didn't get the runaways colors and GZ did instead lol that should have been a gimme
vancouver was never interested in pink + blue
lol nice one 😉
@south pelican spark, dragons, hunters or charge?
best one i think?
The Pacific Power rankings are realistically charge at the bottom
gz roster isnt that good i think
But they have as much capital to earn over the first half of the season
Potential Im not afraid to admit could be lacking
dragons has alot of kdp players
and spark has Seven players
so i think dragons looking good this year
Kdp had a lot more in their favour thoughout their contenders run
They just looked stumped on ilios and runaway managed to steal the mental proficiency in an 8 round grand finals matchup
yea but Vancouver wasn't in the question..

i just dont think the Hunters will be that good..
I'd argue YangXiaoLong could be two things
Pop off as a defensive hitscan
Or just washed out and not really competitive anymore
(i dont know anyone but Yveltal, Baconjack and LateYoung)
And
They're not washed
Recent performance tells me they have a capable roster
And I know an all Chinese should never be overrated
They just won't make the same mistakes as the OG Dragons roster
all they got is Poko now lol
I mean
YXL was basically just Hitscan based Leave.
If he's even 90% as good as Leave still was.
He'll do fine
It's probable
He wasn't called a deceny dps in Miraculous Youngster for nothing when they played against Lunatic Hai
Seoul Cup would have a good one to watch in the moment

In other news, water is wet!
element mystic just 4-0 kdp lol
Roars not on the roster anymore so what do you think
is this contenders match?
@south pelican what a washed out team /s
any saving grace for them exists in the second half of season 3 matchups
does anyone know how well kodak performs ?
not really, no 😐
Yeah he is.
whatcha doin dafran
@south pelican hi
Friendly or contenders match?
The performance in Contenders KR has never felt so void of that all star appeal
So team Hangzhou Spark debuts 2019, and they're pronounced Hanzo Spark....


thanks
oh
lol
I want them for a semi long term coding project and so I'll just wait till theyre released to implement the new team
The Vatican contenders team?
the Vatican Apostles
Oof, when season 1 had a 45.38% korean roster and season 2 outdoes it with 57%. 106/186.
I mean 23 Americans...
The chinese teams don't even have chinese players aside from Chengdu Hunters. At least Paris Eternal has frenchmen on it...
Toronto and Vancouver, Canadian teams. All Korean players...
Really sad to see logix go
Hey, at least we don't have a Pacific and Atlantic divisional ladder with all these Koreans in teams for a league that's now half Asian/Euro teams and... .oh.
It's almost like teams want to win, so when one area produces the predominant majority of the best players it gets utilized.
Imagine baseball without the funnel from South America.
Other regions should just stop being shit, and support their scenes.
It is kinda funny that we have 2 Canadian-owned teams of all SKoreans and 3/4 Chinese-owned teams have mostly SKoreans, yet there is only 1 SKorean-owned team. You'd think with as many SKoreans professionals as there are that there would be more SKorean-owned teams
Busan was rumoured to be a new team and didnt eventuate
!players defiant
No such team 'defiant', for full teams list please type !teams
Toronto Defiant is the team representing Toronto, Ontario, Canada in the Overwatch League. The team is owned by OverActive Media, an integrated company delivering esports and video game entertainment. The team was founded by OverActive Media and Splyce, with the team being o...
@solar trout there are chinese players like guxue and diya on their respective teams
Just that the 3 chinese teams are majority koreans
Probably left 1 or 2 chinese so that they are still a "chinese" team
A day of 4-0verwatch in Australian Contendies 
If I had a dollar for every 4-0 in Australian contendies
You'd have 3.
Big money
@balmy wolf wrong channel. Use this one: #lf-players-na
sorry
how to find teams in here?
I wonder who LAG is thinking about signing
LAG looking really good
if Panker/Roar can play anywhere between Fissure and iRemix, they'll be quite the team to beat
LAG should do tank duos
Like say Panker/Void and Roar/Bischu
Unless it's just going to be GOATS
Then it will be Roar/Void/Bischu
At least, if CN/KR continue we're getting an elemental triangle of comps for Season 2.
Cause right now its Goats > Dive > Four DPS > Goats.
And I'm kind of okay with that.
Panker will probably just be two way, I imagine
Also side tangent.
The new Junkrat skin is amazing.
Because he eats children.
Why do people put Paris at the bottom of all their power rankings
Is everyone a koreaboo
They don’t have infinite talent lol
I personally think Toronto sucks
I only worry about Paris's tank line
if they can be good, then the team will go places
I'm not worried about their DPS or support
Toronto started strong with envy and Neko, but I don't really like the rest of their pickups
Eh their second dps is kind of whatever for Paris.
But yeah their tankline overall looks weak.
Same reason I rank Chengdu so low
Chengdu, Toronto, Atlanta, Paris. Four teams I don't expect to do amazing starting off.
Jesus. Christ.
Nothing like being staggered so hard you die AFTER your team gets back to the point.
Doesn’t Toronto have runaway?
If so they should be fine
I think they will be the top expansion team and a playoff team
Vancouver is RunAway
Paris is outlaws 2.0 imo
This is Toronto:
Overrated overhyped
I don't think anybody is over-hyping Paris
Except maybe France themselves
Paris will be in the 7-12 range
aka play-in tourney range
Ehh people are overhyping SDB
we'll see
he should be the starting Zarya in GOATS
assuming GOATS is the way to go in stage 1
we'll find out very quickly if he's still got it
for some reason i read that as panzer first time seeing that
Peter Panker
PankChamp
finally
Roky wasn’t on the image
which image?
Any more signings unannounced?
RoKy, Nero, and somebody else were missing, but nobody knows why
Kyb
is the window for transfers still open or no?
lol who are they gonna get without striker
the real question tho is what the hell does shock want with like a 4th dps player on their roster
Sinatraa, Architect, Babybay, and Striker? too muchhhh
BU is known to think outside the box
it's possible they'll pick somebody up from anywhere
Babybay doesn't exist.
You forgot Rascal.
Shock DPS = Architect, Striker, Rascal.
Bench = Sinatraa, Babybay.
Only one with a chance getting off the bench is Sinatraa.
This... kind of counts as e-sports.
But right now Taimou is streaming new McCree and literally only right clicking.
And its straight 2016.;
Yesss
Overwatch League plans to run preseason games from January 28, 2019 to February 4, 2019, per league sources. No specific match-ups have been finalized at this time, however.
Additional details on 2019 season and report will follow later in the day.
Nice, seems a bit short though
They know people are itching for that owl goodness
8 days? That's enough to give every team 3-5 games each
I'm excited for that
I'm kinda hoping they give the 8 new teams say 4 matches and the others 3.
ATL Academy seems too strong
x
I feel upset bc my college gives my team no recognition whatsoever and the same funding as a regular student organization
@UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON
in all seriousness though it's fantastic and it provides another path to pro
hopefully blizzard will endorse it/let it become serious enough for that though
bc there's plenty of players who just never get involved/leave university to play overwatch professionally
it would be fantastic to have some sort of system which encouraged them to finish college instead of quitting out
ex. Seagull stopped going to WSU to pursue pro level
but more of a separate thing to get scholarships which is always niec
I mean
following the model of professional sports, it could be a path to pro
I know there's a contenders player (zeerocious) that plays for UC Irvine
he is not a contenders player
is he not??
no
lol what
hes not very good
you have some specific problem with zeerocious
no i do not
I'm confused
he was on the local lan sister team to a team i coached
he tried out for the main roster
and rang a lot
i know him pretty well as a player
great guy
lacks game sense
inconsistent on widow
which is his best hero by far
ic
I recognized his name from somewhere, I assumed it was contenders
any idea where I would have seen him?
sfshock fan events
such as the california cup?
or
bc I watched that
either way I'm glad to see college ow representation, I know young players like super/sinatraa are probably putting off college to play ow, and if the game dies in a few years, they either master a new game or have to go to college/get a job after all that time which is rough
at least this way people can get a community with a mindset oriented around professional play while still being able to earn a degree
I'm on UW's b-team as a plat-diamond player lol
tespa is pretty lit
we get lanyards hopefully
Rn my team is ranked 3 places behind WSU's a-team, which is our rival school
@frosty sun use #lf-players-na
oh i forgot this is around now
outside PTR, were away skins always available prior to the seasonal patch?
nice thing about that is
all the away skins i got from all-access pass
it now grants me the home version too
👏🏼
I have the away skins
Meta Athena and Meta Bellum dissolving into one now?
Holy crap
Fan the hammer now deletes Brigitte
i wonder when the normies are going to get that memo
we might actually stop seeing that deleteBrig stuff
@gaunt acorn what if we get the all access pass now?
@hidden vault then i would imagine you'd get the away skins
then their home variants on top of that
Hmm alright
not to mention the other home variants you get to begin with
The meme never dies:
where would i find a team to try out for like open div
I'd check team recruitment, and then try and find some of the other competitive discords
@hallow remnant Think it's to late
ok
Home Games will only be: Dallas, Atlanta, Los Angeles for 2019.
So. Called it 😛
called it from where?
When they first announced the road games thing, and people were trying to include Canada etc.
I stuck to straight US only because all the visas etc are already in place. They just need venues for dry runs to make sure production value is fine when outside the Blizzard arena.
I equate it to test markets prior to a global product launch.
I wasn't expecting a 3.5million increase in prize pool though.
unexpected but nice
I figured there would be a small increase, but not that much
It's hard to gauge an expected value from a franchised league
with so few esports doing it
Yeah, but it seems like an appropriate number in retrospect with how many teams they did pick up.
true true
Finally, generous prize. Season 2 is looking better and better!
So I know this is mostly about OW, but this whole thing about China banning Fortnite and PubG? That's interesting.
Missing paris eternal in the emotes
?
why did they ban fortnite?
From what I've researched and found they basically focused on all BR's for gore and violence.
OW/LoL are close to being banned, but require corrective action.
OW has immoral things (probably McCree smoking, etc), and inharmonious chat (toxic) that they don't feel Blizzard controlled well enough, I guess.
Looks like I’m going to Atlanta 
who is hyped for the fusion vs spitfire game?
all I want to see is Atlanta play Fusion and im happy
when

so I assumed teams would play 0 - 3 games a week per stage, but it looks like 1 - 2 instead
no wait
0 - 2
i think im switching from seoul to vancouver this season
oh yea fuck i live under a rock i completely forgot they picked up fissure
nvm
im staying
Self doubt
yea i should be proud of myself
I am not exclusively a spitfire supporter
im one of the few seoul fans who started as a seoul fan and stayed one through the season no matter how bad they did
But when grand finals kicks in you know I'm rooting for the raw mechanics team
doubt
More doubt than valiant being in top 6?
I ditched Valiant when they ditched Verbo
Literally the only reason i rooted for valiant in season 1
Valiant is playoff material though
@pearl stratus I meant nobody reacted with paris eternal in #esports-news
Verbo was busy with Valiant stuff when Canada was trialling, ironically
Thats not a hard choice.
Verbo is good, which isn't a problem at all, but Custa has solid leadership qualities and comms. He's extremely likeable and kind of brings people together from what they've said.
After their initial issues that was the perfect person for their roster.
I think a lot of teams are still growing into the fact that raw skill alone doesn't do it, look at some of the people that weren't picked up by any teams.
They play so many more games with so much more pressure than Contenders, its a different mindset and team environment.
Indeed but what I meant was verbo should have known that was gonna be released and look to prove himself in world cup
It is indeed ironic
Verbo is a good player, sad that he didn't get resigned
To a different OWL roster
Custa just brings so much
Non korean players aren't that sought much
Most players that got resigned are koreans
Christmas for KYB in Guangzhou?
Charge overrated, now it’s time gimme gimme Runaway activated > :3
I mean
You could just have another 80-100% Korean roster
But picking up EU players in a 1/5 Chinese roster is a multinationalist company's dream

!players justice
!players fuel
Why not
Unlike shanghai
GZ has set out and focused on an international roster from the very beginning
That being said, meta bellum is essential for a core of Korean players that can't be replaced with ordinary international players, to maintain viability
Carpe is an example of a hard carry during the regular season that was helped by players like fragi and boombox
Effect is the opposite, his carry potential was there but needed a lot more reliance on the rest of his team to pull through when xQc/cocco/mickie plus chips/custa/harryhook didn't play into the teams' quirks well in stages 1-2. Last season
I'd argue that Carpe's carry potential also helped with the fact that Eqo was pretty stellar, so he had a secondary DPS.
Dallas had...
A bunch of washed up shit
Its hard to 1v11
How good will dallas be now
With Closer and rCk
I'd say low midtier, i think Dallas' success in stage four was mainly thanks to the meta, Seagull provided a great d.va that allowed Mickie to shine on brig
I think they'll be solid mid, probably make it to each stages finals.
But I put that mostly on Aero, and the growth of some of the players.
While I still think OGE is a shit bag for boosting I think he has a good team mentality and can lead very well. If he can get ladder fuckwads to work together he can get Dallas to.
I also think they have actual DPS now, not a super limited hitscan pool they put too much resources into.
But we'll need to see how Zach works/grows.
True i suppose, I'm thinking 12th-14th. Btw
Eh I see them more 8-12, with the potential to grow a bit if they've gotten the coaching they need.
There are so many decent teams, i don't feel right placing them higher
I still think Shock is going to be the most "surprising" jump of placement.
I could easily see San Fran Shock being 5th or 15th
I think it just depends on how quickly they overcome the language barrier if they try to mix.
Poor Moth needs some intensive Korean lessons.
Indeed
There's no bischu to help him like Fissure and LAG
In game i mean
On a tangent Bischu is amazing
I'm sad Silkthread quit instead of going on to be Bischu 2.0
Being able to play an OWL level D.va and doing live translations at the same time is rather amazing
I just hope the games start at more of a Stage 3/4 intensity and we don't relapse back to Stage 1 for a bit.
Stage 3/4 was nice because on any given day you could have some random ass upsets.
Yeah
Also it was funny listening to Jake explain about poor Shanghai on the podcast.
And every team prepping for them ridiculously hard in Stage 3/4.
"We're playing Shock and Shanghai this week." Full week prep for Shanghai.
That's sad, why beat a dead horse
Because by then you could lose to Shanghai if you didn't prep.
And it was more scary to lose to Shanghai, and be their first win, than to lose to Shock who you might lose to anyway.
No one team wanted to be their first win.
So they prepped for them. Hard.
pretty much
!players mayhem
Still looks bad
yeah I don't have a lot of faith either
Trade Kris to another team plz.
I don't want my name associated with the Misfits org.
ITT: People find out a job is more like a job than fun times and candy.
Oh Contenders.
So many ults, so few kills.
@limber pine This is actually... pretty good and makes me dislike Kephrii a little less nowadays
Kephrii joins Jayne and LemonKiwi for an interview about his competitive career and hopes of joining the Overwatch League. Everything from his success, to th...
"redemption" lol
I mean, he's arguably doing pretty solidly in Contenders and is actually making the steps. It's a proper fit of the word.
No flex whatsoever so I don't think he'll leave Contenders for a while (especially with his language barriers)
But he's not doing badly.
I trust you, we'll see if he ever leave Contenders.
If he can get some more flex I could see him potentially doing it. But right now his hero pool is a specialist pool, which doesn't help him.
@pearl stratus the thing is that he's trying to be legit. He wants to prove himself and to his haters he has what it takes and people are growing too cheer him on. It's a story of growing up to achieve a victory.
The day he walks down stage in owl will be a very special moment that will be cheered in by thousands of fans he earned and inspired
Which I'm sure overwatch will be fully behind
See, I'm not sure an opinion video of anyone by Jayne is gonna give anyone negative opinions of someone, as that appears to be what he's trying to do. The immediate reaction by a lot of people would be the enemy of my enemy is my friend response, so a takedown video by Jayne can only go in Kephrii's favour.
Dafraaaaan
Nothing and I think thats his biggest misunderstanding of going from Contenders to OWL. He notes it at the end he most likely won't continue doing contenders because economically it'd be just stupid.
Guys how hard do you think it is to start making money of playing video games ( streaming , tournaments , etc)
I rly wanna be an esport famer but i dont want to waste years of training and fail
@balmy wolf mood
however, the best things are worth the chance of failing and if you never try then you will never succeed
But if i failed in it it ll probably affect my whole life , also i have to get a good pc , good internet (which is so hard to get where i live) if it is too risky my mom probably wont support me and pay for all of this
Yeah sure
I kinda found an idea that may work for me (maybe u2)
I already know a little about programming so i will dedicate this year to learning enough amount to work and get the money to buy all my gaming needs
So i both get a skill on demand so if i fail in esports
And nice gaming gear
Cuz tbh gear makes all difference
@grand glade
Saw Jayne say that there was some Symmetra play in Contenders, anyone got a link to a match with that?
@green stump just look at first season of Seagull of what is required by OWL these days. He was hired as Hanzo/Pharah player. By the middle of season, he was their tank player. Do you really think Kephrii would be that flexible ?
@rigid field this is Your Overwatch analysing the match with sym bastion. I haven't got the original game tho. https://youtu.be/jWhQGxyXmoc
New pro team comps! Bastion & Sym at the Overwatch pro level? It's finally happened, Korean Contenders has seen some experimental strategies and counters and...
@hazy venture Thanks a lot! I'll find the game from there 😃
Tipical mykl running sweaty strats
how does the washington justice look?
Pretty bad ngl
I've been grouping teams into "Playoff" , "Play-in", and "Missing Playoffs"
Top 6, 7 - 12, and bottom 8
Washington is definitely in the bottom 8
on all of it though, we could all get super surprised. But yeah.
Then there's some teams where it could be this giant range.
I think Shock will be playoff, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they were in Play-in or Missing Playoff.
hm
Shock is a big wild card
Shock was trending upward at the end of last season
I just don't see them being a lot better
is smurf > super, viol2t > sleepy, and striker > Danteh
Viol2t and Smurf should both be relatively noticeable upgrades.
Striker is wildcard imo, since his attitude issues could be bad. However with Rascal + Architect you have double korean dps potential.
If Viol2t plays like he was in Contenders at least, we'll see how he adapts to OWL.
So shock is going full korean?
it looks like they're going in that direction
All that would be left is to drop babybay and pick up a main healer, honestly.
But from their scrims they were mixing.
So no ones actually sure.
Viol2t was going to be picked up by someone either way, so I don't think it was 100% replacing Sleepy.
More like "This kid is Jjonak'ing all over Korean Contenders, we should get it."
yeah it'd be disappointing to see super and sleepy benched
Super I found amazingly underwhelming.
Yes, he looked better than Nomy.
But Bob is a better tank than Nomy.
lul
But he also could be getting downplayed because he launched at the same time as Space.
And Space is insane.
So Super just looks bad by comparison
Not the same roles, but nearly the same hype.
One lived up to it, one didn't.
Smurf is really smart though, his play is great. Same with Choi.
But I wouldn't want to see Choi flat out replace Nevix.
Because I think Nevix has been a key player for them.
I'll miss iRemix, but I dont see him getting back into pro play with his showing on Skyfoxes - to tangent to another team.
tbf skyfoxes has made a lot of pros look bad
Agreed, but to go from a bench tank on LAG to a tank on Skyfoxes with 0 wins, to getting cut for a korean swap prior to the fact they'll need to completely remake the team
It doesn't look good.
Like they chose to completely drop him, knowing they'll need another tank soon with the region locks.
But at the end of the day I don't care who's from where, or what happens, as long as its good games to watch.
I hope verbo gets picked up
Verbo isn't the best player out there
But i have a soft heart for him
Ptr patch notes, the new owl skins available in ptr
That Sym/Bastion video was bloody fantastic 😄
I've wanted to do exactly those strats for a while so the idea of them is not new to me, but I've never once had a team remotely coordinated enough to come close to pulling it off.
If anyone wants a hilarious stream to watch right now.
Seagull is three stacking with Dafran and Emongg.
And they keep playing into a three stack with an Orissa, Bastion (Kolorblind), and Sym (Stevoo)
And they're insanely fun games to watch.
At one point EvilToaster was with Stevoo and Kolorblind
That was amazing
Cause he’s a top Orisa
He might still be, I never caught the Orissas name
Its nice seeing actual OW games on Ranked, though. Stacking really is the solution.
I’ve been waiting for them to make it
Yes it is
When I do comp I queue with at least 2-3 of my team mates
Cause I play in a little league lol
We’re all gold and plat tho
@limber pine that's not bad
What my list?
It's missing shanghai
oh yeah sure is
I was hoping you were thinking dragons had a chance to step up against its competition
Playoff:

Play-in:

Out:

This is subject to how volatile these team changes could be over the course of the regular season
If they add trade or keep their entire core roster, I hope that my predictions will hold up. Confidence level is under 30% btw
GOATS is boring to watch now
Watching fusions explain how Team UK used GOATS comp with Jayne was really insightful
@green stump so keen to get season 2 team skins for orisa
I don't think Paris is great now though
So is bostom sfs
Philly actually has a chance
So does valiant and gladiators
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@sullen berry you missed Shanghai too
I tried to bump them up
Everyone forgetting Shanghai smh
SMH
DAL
PHI
HOU
BOS
NYE
SFS
VAL
GLA
FLA
SHD
SEO
LDN
CDH
HZS
PAR
TOR
VAN
WAS
ATL
GZC
im gonna get val / van so mixed up
@sullen berry you have Houston twice
it was never planned I swear 😭
Uh huh
Playoff:

Play-in:

Out:

doesn't change personally
now I need a whole weekend before xmas to analyze the regular season schedule
the stage 1 week 4 schedule seems off
Playoff:

Play-in:

Out:

forgot seoul @torpid charm
Thank you, I couldn’t figure out which one I was missing 
haha
I have no faith for so many teams. I thought I was going in blind last season but I honestly don’t know what to expect at all from anyone now (except Mayhem)
My opinions aren’t valid 
nah i mostly agree with your list
I’ve heard things about what’s going on regarding scrims with Seoul, so I’m convinced they won’t be able to do it this year just because
i could see them being low playin
i dont want them to do well
hate that fissure found success somewhere good
I can’t hate, at least he’s happy.
Me: Can’t to support Dallas! Loved the Fuel guys since Envyus UwU
Also me: Can’t wait for reddit threads blaming Zacharee/Aero cuz every team needs a good scapegoat for the drama and storyline 💁🏻♀️☕️
what Reddit threads
filthy
Sparkle with an OW League team wipe
Out of the new team's who most likely to succeed
vancouver & hangzhou
when is Spark coming to the league?
RUNAWAY FIGHTING
!players atlanta
!players Washington
!players Excelsior
!players Titans
!players Fusion
Did they reduce the roster size to 10? I don't remember seeing anything official or any statement saying they had, but everyone seems to have reduced their squad size to <=10
It’s still 12
But with two-way players, and the end of season 1 embracing more flexible players, teams have leaned more toward smaller rosters.
australian contenders just started anyone wanna discuss in voice chat?
!players runaway
No such team 'runaway', for full teams list please type !teams
!teams
DAL
PHI
HOU
BOS
NYE
SFS
VAL
GLA
FLA
SHD
SEO
LDN
CDH
HZS
PAR
TOR
VAN
WAS
ATL
GZC
!players gladiators
!players titans
!PLAYERS shock
!Dynasty
!players dynasty
the chinese team names in french is oddly satisfying to hear https://youtu.be/f8tuvdxJcyo?t=299
Révélation du roster de Guangzhou Charge, récents résultats des Contenders et annonce d'un GIGANTESQUE projet esport dans la ville de Hangzhou sont au progra...
Diverse MC:

Subtle Mixed Rosters

Regional Core Roster:

!players Fuel
!players outlaws
WholesomeWatch: Linkzr just randomly dropping that he's engaged on stream.
when is SPARK coming to the league, i want those sweet pink skins
They're on PTR currently, so it looks like they'll be for sale sooner rather than later.
when is owl season 2
feb
@manic storm https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule The Season 2 schedule is up
!players Dallas Fuel
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!players dallas fuel
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oh well
!players Fuel
Just team name, no geography needed.
Ooof.
Numlocked, who talked a little smack about OWL, getting manhandled in Contenders right now.
!players hunters
!players spark
will there be another preseason or am I just being stupid rn?
No preseason this year iirc
short preseason
@ancient bison yes there will be a preseason
No preseason news though, give or take 2 weeks to announce, play and prepare before regular season over one weekend
They announced the pre season like two weeks ago, its short. Like 4-6 days or something
!players Uprising
Blase is underrated
Can't wait to see him pop off on hanzo
https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyRacyBaconBCWarrior
Scuffed 2016 dive
https://i.imgur.com/Z2Jvwc6.png
always happy to see sbb on tracer tho#
@sullen berry I still think Boston is hiding a signing, because Colourhex said he wasn't the carry DPS. And you know its not blase.
Also ITT of why people take T2 less and less seriously: https://twitter.com/SecondWindGG/status/1074984205753479168
We will be releasing @Colugeisback from the roster. Good luck in your future endeavors.
Tl;dr: Coluge is a person who didn't get enough oxygen in the womb. Flat out posted about going back to boosting. Got instantly removed from his team, and asked why he didn't have reddit threads yet.
Though he didn't kill his career, since he was never good enough to have one above T2.
!players Eternal
Dude I spent like an hour last night retelling my brother the whole history of the OW meta since beta. Jesus I need help
RHJ three stacking on ladder right now. It's not going well for poor Hotba on the other team.
I don't think the
are going to do as good ap people think they would be I think they will be a high mid tier team but will not go far during the playoffs
I don't think anyones really said they'd be top, just that they wouldn't be on the bottom.
They're one of the only expansion teams that looks decent on paper and in theory though.
plus given the success of NYXL and London importing "full teams", it's hard not to give them a long leash
@pearl stratus both people from the preseason show had Vancouver very high
Since when do we trust those people though?
we don't
Thats like trusting a Bren prediction 😛
Honestly I don't hate that list - minus LAV. LAV is -way- too low.
Swap LAV and Vancouver and I'm not anti-Emily.
Oh wait. Wrong list cross checking.
Vancouver at 8/9 with Hangzhou seems fine.
Playoff:

Play-in:
for me.
Boston is a fence for me.
I think its liable to change when they announce their last DPS.
Because I still firmly believe they're announcing more dps.
My fence picks would be:

If the meta doesn't shift substantially this is actually a really good set of comps for Houston.
Also did you see Jayne's interview with Kephrii? Kephrii stating, with no explanation, that Linkzr is the scariest widow in the league to me was interesting, and I wish he'd have elaborated.
He refused to explain why, but he said all things that he'd say Linkzr is the best in the league. And I want to know why, but he refuses to comment on that stuff.
hm
For me I think its because Linkzr's pop off is ridiculous, and his consistency is at the higher end of some peoples pop. But I don't know.
and
are all fine fence choices.
I feel like they could be anywhere between 10 and 20
probably the best.
anywhere between terrific and terrible
It's basically all about which team overcomes their language barriers / cohesion with those teams.
I think alemao speaks fluent English, which gives Boston an esge
Boston are gonna do a lot worse imo
i honestly don't see how. The worst part of their team was their dps and I don't think they've gotten any worse
If Gamsu leaves, then that's a different conversation
Aimgod = Neko
I think they'll do worse overall, but I don't see a drop into the bottom 5-6 like a lot of people
I think he stays because he has no where else useful to be.
Where's he going to go... Florida?
That's like signing your professional death bell.
I guess he could go back to Korea and play Contenders.
Yes
Dray won't be getting his Vancouver vs Uprising match until Stage 2

I'm assured this is going to be promotable if both teams make their presence known early on
The Pacific version of that? Maybe..
why would i care about vancouver vs uprising @sullen berry
yeah but you mentioned me
i don't really care about uprising
they're pretty trash
what's the significance
Uprising 
Vancouver and Boston?
It says the yellow accented matches are TBD and part of Ultimate Weekend
That might explain the fewer games
@queen drift neko was better than gamsu Same for aimgod and note
Gamsus rein isnt that good
Neko was better than gamsu?
And in the Playoffs gamsu was, after kellex, the worst Player
U ok?
Yes i am
Neko is a top Tier flex Support and so is aimgod
Gamsu Fed in Stage 4 and Playoffs
I dont see any Team that needs him besides Mayhem
Also the worst Part about Boston was the Lack of a widow Specialist thats all
I'm worried about their lack of dps in general
I know they said they have more coming, but I'd like to see it first
While its a Mykl article so i hate it.
It's still about to happen.
The two known ones would be Axiom and Dafran.
I wonder who else.
Oh Happy from Hangzhou had some stuff going on iirc.
But he donated his entire salary on Meta Bellum when that first came out
So Blizzard might let him go through.
@limber pine Boston is Not going to be good next season i think
I respectfully disagree
I don't think they'll be great, but I don't think they'll be bottom 5 like other people have said
I mean there's people who think Atlanta is going to be insane.
So who knows.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Right now I'd argue their contenders roster is stronger than their OWL one.
So bottom 5 who?
This is my list:
Playoff:

Play-in:

Out:

I don't have a bottom 5 yet
but it includes Washington without a doubt
I think the "gaurantees" for bottom 5 for every list include Washington and Florida for 95% of people.
I'm treating Florida like an expansion team this year
as I'd think most would
I expect most of the expansion teams at or near the bottom
I disagree with Shanghai. I have hopes for them this year because they are now made of an actually good roster
Shanghai is one of those teams I feel could be anywhere between 5th and 15th.
I do like that they've brought in KDP's core roster
And Coach.
And the assistant coach was the EM coach.
Who worked with Fearless prior.
Geguri and Diya are the only "new" people to the coaches, which is useful.
aye
they've certainly put themselves in a position to succeed
better than Season 1 anyway
I personally think they were in good hands with RUI but he needed to go home for surgery and such.
Since paying for it in the US would have been stupid.
Sidenote:
Guxue in the Chinese community had his primal rage nicknamed to #MonkeyBlade.
Shanghai this Low?
What
Also you underrate how important the atmosphere can be
Boston has a good Backline
Solid tankline
Average at best DPS lineup
And huk
Huk Alone is a downbringer
That's why I put them in tiers and not a list
despite atmosphere, I still think Boston is a Play-in team and Shanghai will miss the playoffs
ask me in three weeks and that could change
This is a tier list without seeing any preseason games or any more roster changes
it's amateur
good
Gen G has been doing a ton, hiring Chris Bosh, a bunch of NBA people, etc. It's smart.
No point in investing this much money just to destroy your assets.
Shanghai is literally the Second best korean Team
From contenders
While Boston only Sold good Players
And got way worse
Also i dont see Boston competing with any top 10 Team
It's not though.
They have 60% of KDP, not 100%.
Missing Roar and Decay is noticeable because you're integrating with a new tank.
And you're losing your primary hitscan.
They still have growth room.
It's not comparable to Vancouver which is a 1:1.
Also the argument that Boston got way worse isn't logical. It's a jump to conclusions mat.
If the new team is more cohesive they could come out better, despite losing Striker.
The players that Boston lost where, by literally all accounts, toxic and destructive.
That causes issues that don't always translate to the game, but can translate into teamwork.
Right now all we can judge Boston by is what they did last season, and how they did it. Which was some weird ass moneyball coaching that worked really well.
I honestly think that because they did moneyball pretty well last year, they get the benefit of the doubt to do it again.
It's not like Colourhex and alemao are slouches either
Blase isn't either, he seems overall generally consistent. They're just missing a carry.
I could honestly see them going for some of the leftovers now, like Sinatraa who may want more playing time.
I'm excited for boston's new roster and hopeful. They looked decent until s3-4
I hope
gets to the finals again in season 2

Let’s talk about something we’ll hear very soon
”Seoul Dynasty will be your Overwatch league champions”

They need to get miro and gido resigned along with whoru and EscA season 3
Maybe even leetaejun he’s better than munchkin and fleta on hitscan
Get the dream team together for one last run
His career shouldn’t have ended struggling in the middle of a season they all are championship material.
Superstars.
@astral locust Want NYXL to be in the finals. Sucks they missed their first chance at it!
@balmy wolf Think Miro gave up on Overwatch League. Only streams now.
He said he didn’t quit esports on his stream. He said he’s not going to be looking for a team at the moment, but that he is not going to avoid giving a team a chance if they wanted him.
So I mean just look at xqc. The guy always whines “I quit!” But ends up rejoining teams on contenders level or OWC level of some kind of level of competition. Same with mendo, he cries about quitting he yet plays ow as much as he cries, which frankly is a lot.
@ruby pendant
If that's the case then at least there's hope!
Yes there is!
If you got kicked from a multiple time world championship team, I think most people would have a moment where they kind of fuck off for a while and treat themselves, then maybe rejoin later and see if your chances at the same old team of yours are still somewhat existent and good and they’ll let you tryout, or if you need to join a new team.
I thought xqc whined a lot until I tried to watch Surefour's twitch channel and a few videos he's done. That guy has issues.
No French, but if you are looking for a French eSports team, you can check out Paris Eternal
Pretty sure dallas would beat paris
likely, yes
!players Houston
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Cloud 9 is my team
!players Paris
!players spark
when is SPARK coming to the league
When the league starts
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They're the last game on Day 1
Can’t wait to see how this undefined team does 
mousepads pros here?
!players excelsior
Link to the schedule, for you bot-loving roster checkers
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/i2/I2T7WYE14RPA1544587572381.pdf
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cringe
Hopefully, OWL learned their lesson. It was a funny performance though.
@pearl stratus our boy Dafran not suspended yet
@limber pine damn it! You beat me to it
2 fast 4 u
2 fast, 2 cranberrt
How does Ripa get a 5 game suspension for throwing games
But other get a 2 day for boosting???
from the link
While the league reviews each case on its own, key factors informing the level of discipline include both the severity and recency of the actions under review.
it's possible the boosting is from a long time ago and the throwing is recent
but nobody knows for sure
Tru
I know neko's stuff is from before Season 1
idk
the boosting is not but the discovery is
idk how Blizz would handle that
it does look he got dinged worse because of the obstruction though
they are missing a lot of owl players on the boosting front



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