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pearl stratus
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So D'va can't eat it, etc.

jagged crater
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to balance it, i imagine there's some hefty charge time for it

pearl stratus
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Since historically lasers aren't eaten by DM.

jagged crater
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might not be one shot perse

pearl stratus
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Which a hit scan that can't be eaten by D'va is going to be insane, if they ever figure it out.

jagged crater
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it could be a charged beam

pearl stratus
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I'd drop it out of one shot, for balance purposes, yeah.

jagged crater
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longer you charge, more damage you deal

pearl stratus
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But its something they're looking at.

jagged crater
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i can see it working

pearl stratus
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Railguns and burst rifles pop up constantly in their development games basically.

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Which I can see because of how Orissa got developed.

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Someone was fucking around and put a Bastion Gun on Rein's arm for one of their development games.

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And they were like ".... Hey. Thats not bad."

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I'd like to see more abilities that are like...

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Recharge reduced when you hit. So you get punished for spam/whiff.

jagged crater
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like a lesser genji dash

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people suggested mccree roll cd goes down if you get hs

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i like these designs tho it promotes snowballing which can be fun if it isn't easy to pull off

pearl stratus
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I like it in concept but its impossible to balance imo.

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Because you have to assume a pro will hit the requirement near 100%

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Whereas some gold kid may get luck to get 40%

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Look at Hook % disparity alone.

jagged crater
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works out for genji since it's a lot more situational

analog lark
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So I'm finally watching the watchpoint that happened recently

sour marlin
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good watch

analog lark
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So day one
PhiliFusion vs LondonSpitfire
My prediction LondonSpitfire will win
BostonUprising vs NYExcelsior
Winner: NYExcelsior
SeoulDynasty vs LAGladiators
Tough one, but i think SeoulDynasty will win
ShanghaiDragons vs HangzhouSpark
Tough, but ShanghaiDragons will win their first game

torpid charm
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I’m stumped with a lot of my predictions

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Going into the season blind once again

slow walrus
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SHD is gonna be way better
hard to tell with LAGLA until we see them w/o fissure lul
NYXL and LDN will always be nutty
Fusion will be better than last year, they've only upgraded tbh
Seoul I have no idea about honestly they're weird

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BUP is probably middle of the pack but they're not gonna be like their stage 3 team at all

gaunt acorn
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HangzhouSpark > ShanghaiDragons

slow walrus
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do I like the team colors better? yeah

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but SHD has 4 Kongdoo Panthera players, they got 2nd in KR contenders and will have good synergy

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i'm just a little upset that Vancouver didn't get the runaways colors and GZ did instead lol that should have been a gimme

gaunt acorn
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vancouver was never interested in pink + blue

south pelican
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lol nice one 😉

sullen berry
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@south pelican spark, dragons, hunters or charge?

south pelican
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best one i think?

sullen berry
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I have a lot of love for charge

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Sentimental, mostly

gaunt acorn
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they have nice colours

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but their roster..

sullen berry
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The Pacific Power rankings are realistically charge at the bottom

south pelican
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gz roster isnt that good i think

sullen berry
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But they have as much capital to earn over the first half of the season

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Potential Im not afraid to admit could be lacking

south pelican
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dragons has alot of kdp players

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and spark has Seven players

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so i think dragons looking good this year

sullen berry
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Kdp had a lot more in their favour thoughout their contenders run

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They just looked stumped on ilios and runaway managed to steal the mental proficiency in an 8 round grand finals matchup

south pelican
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yea but Vancouver wasn't in the question..

sullen berry
south pelican
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i just dont think the Hunters will be that good..

sullen berry
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I'd argue YangXiaoLong could be two things

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Pop off as a defensive hitscan

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Or just washed out and not really competitive anymore

south pelican
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(i dont know anyone but Yveltal, Baconjack and LateYoung)

sullen berry
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And

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They're not washed

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Recent performance tells me they have a capable roster

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And I know an all Chinese should never be overrated

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They just won't make the same mistakes as the OG Dragons roster

hidden vault
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what did fusion upgraded they sent hotba away

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no more sado hotba tank

south pelican
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all they got is Poko now lol

hidden vault
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and they only acquired elk for two way

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how is that an upgrade

pearl stratus
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I mean

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YXL was basically just Hitscan based Leave.

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If he's even 90% as good as Leave still was.

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He'll do fine

sullen berry
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It's probable

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He wasn't called a deceny dps in Miraculous Youngster for nothing when they played against Lunatic Hai

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Seoul Cup would have a good one to watch in the moment

queen drift
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Dafran has gone insane

surreal lichen
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In other news, water is wet!

south pelican
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element mystic just 4-0 kdp lol

hidden vault
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Is that the new kdp?

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Or the ones with roar?

warped axle
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Roars not on the roster anymore so what do you think

hidden vault
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is this contenders match?

sullen berry
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@south pelican what a washed out team /s

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any saving grace for them exists in the second half of season 3 matchups

idle beacon
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does anyone know how well kodak performs ?

sullen berry
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not really, no 😐

idle beacon
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he's in dafrans team

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and i think the only german player in the oWL

torpid charm
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Yeah he is.

jagged crater
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whatcha doin dafran

south pelican
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@hidden vault new kdp

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Kodak was on Team Germany this year

frosty mulch
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@south pelican hi

hidden vault
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Friendly or contenders match?

sullen berry
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The performance in Contenders KR has never felt so void of that all star appeal

balmy wolf
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So team Hangzhou Spark debuts 2019, and they're pronounced Hanzo Spark....

sullen berry
sullen berry
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Kyb is missing at this meetup

whole gyro
magic zinc
cyan sun
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Is there a list of 3 digit codes for the new teams?

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Like PHI, SHD, NYE, etc

hidden vault
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HZS

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GZC

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CDH

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VCT

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ATL

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DCJ

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TRD

cyan sun
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thanks

hidden vault
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PRE

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Ok at this point I'm just guessing

cyan sun
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oh

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lol

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I want them for a semi long term coding project and so I'll just wait till theyre released to implement the new team

hidden vault
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Yes you should

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But the chinese teams should be like this more or less

gaunt acorn
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more likely VAN

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not VCT

sullen berry
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VAT

upper niche
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The Vatican contenders team?

gaunt acorn
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the Vatican Apostles

solar trout
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Oof, when season 1 had a 45.38% korean roster and season 2 outdoes it with 57%. 106/186.
I mean 23 Americans...
The chinese teams don't even have chinese players aside from Chengdu Hunters. At least Paris Eternal has frenchmen on it...

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Toronto and Vancouver, Canadian teams. All Korean players...

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Really sad to see logix go

upper niche
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Hey, at least we don't have a Pacific and Atlantic divisional ladder with all these Koreans in teams for a league that's now half Asian/Euro teams and... .oh.

pearl stratus
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It's almost like teams want to win, so when one area produces the predominant majority of the best players it gets utilized.

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Imagine baseball without the funnel from South America.

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Other regions should just stop being shit, and support their scenes.

solar trout
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It is kinda funny that we have 2 Canadian-owned teams of all SKoreans and 3/4 Chinese-owned teams have mostly SKoreans, yet there is only 1 SKorean-owned team. You'd think with as many SKoreans professionals as there are that there would be more SKorean-owned teams

upper niche
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Busan was rumoured to be a new team and didnt eventuate

solar trout
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but dafran is in, OWL is a meme

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can't escape it

sullen berry
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!players defiant

somber yewBOT
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No such team 'defiant', for full teams list please type !teams

solar trout
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sullen berry
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Probably updates to their dB in Feb

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Thanks

hidden vault
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@solar trout there are chinese players like guxue and diya on their respective teams

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Just that the 3 chinese teams are majority koreans

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Probably left 1 or 2 chinese so that they are still a "chinese" team

torpid charm
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A day of 4-0verwatch in Australian Contendies zaryalul

sullen berry
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If I had a dollar for every 4-0 in Australian contendies

upper niche
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You'd have 3.

sullen berry
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one for each season

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now include the 4-0s from the last two

torpid charm
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Big money

karmic grotto
balmy wolf
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sorry

woven ermine
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how to find teams in here?

analog lark
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The entire lfg

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Below this

pearl stratus
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I wonder who LAG is thinking about signing

limber pine
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LAG looking really good

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if Panker/Roar can play anywhere between Fissure and iRemix, they'll be quite the team to beat

warped axle
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LAG should do tank duos

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Like say Panker/Void and Roar/Bischu

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Unless it's just going to be GOATS

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Then it will be Roar/Void/Bischu

pearl stratus
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At least, if CN/KR continue we're getting an elemental triangle of comps for Season 2.

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Cause right now its Goats > Dive > Four DPS > Goats.

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And I'm kind of okay with that.

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Panker will probably just be two way, I imagine

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Also side tangent.

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The new Junkrat skin is amazing.

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Because he eats children.

rare sonnet
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Why do people put Paris at the bottom of all their power rankings

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Is everyone a koreaboo

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They don’t have infinite talent lol

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I personally think Toronto sucks

limber pine
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I only worry about Paris's tank line

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if they can be good, then the team will go places

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I'm not worried about their DPS or support

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Toronto started strong with envy and Neko, but I don't really like the rest of their pickups

pearl stratus
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Eh their second dps is kind of whatever for Paris.

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But yeah their tankline overall looks weak.

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Same reason I rank Chengdu so low

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Chengdu, Toronto, Atlanta, Paris. Four teams I don't expect to do amazing starting off.

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Jesus. Christ.

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Nothing like being staggered so hard you die AFTER your team gets back to the point.

balmy wolf
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Doesn’t Toronto have runaway?

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If so they should be fine

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I think they will be the top expansion team and a playoff team

limber pine
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Vancouver is RunAway

queen drift
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Paris is outlaws 2.0 imo

limber pine
queen drift
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Overrated overhyped

limber pine
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I don't think anybody is over-hyping Paris

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Except maybe France themselves

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Paris will be in the 7-12 range

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aka play-in tourney range

queen drift
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Ehh people are overhyping SDB

limber pine
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we'll see

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he should be the starting Zarya in GOATS

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assuming GOATS is the way to go in stage 1

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we'll find out very quickly if he's still got it

limber pine
copper solstice
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for some reason i read that as panzer first time seeing that

vagrant niche
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Peter Panker

warped axle
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PankChamp

gaunt acorn
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finally

rare sonnet
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Wait how do Toronto have 7 players

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You have to have 8

gaunt acorn
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@rare sonnet they have 8

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Yakpung, envy, Ivy, Stellar, Asher, Neko, Aid, RoKy

rare sonnet
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Roky wasn’t on the image

gaunt acorn
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which image?

balmy wolf
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f

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oops

hidden vault
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Any more signings unannounced?

limber pine
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RoKy, Nero, and somebody else were missing, but nobody knows why

warped axle
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Kyb

limber pine
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no kyb was on there

sharp drum
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is the window for transfers still open or no?

limber pine
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there is no window for transfers

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in the offseason

pearl stratus
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Still waiting for Boston DPS pick ups.

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Since Colourhex isn't their main dps

slow walrus
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lol who are they gonna get without striker

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the real question tho is what the hell does shock want with like a 4th dps player on their roster

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Sinatraa, Architect, Babybay, and Striker? too muchhhh

limber pine
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BU is known to think outside the box

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it's possible they'll pick somebody up from anywhere

pearl stratus
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Babybay doesn't exist.

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You forgot Rascal.

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Shock DPS = Architect, Striker, Rascal.

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Bench = Sinatraa, Babybay.

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Only one with a chance getting off the bench is Sinatraa.

pearl stratus
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This... kind of counts as e-sports.

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But right now Taimou is streaming new McCree and literally only right clicking.

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And its straight 2016.;

queen drift
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Yesss

torpid charm
ruby pendant
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Nice, seems a bit short though

green stump
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They know people are itching for that owl goodness

upper niche
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8 days? That's enough to give every team 3-5 games each

analog lark
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I'm excited for that

upper niche
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I'm kinda hoping they give the 8 new teams say 4 matches and the others 3.

karmic grotto
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ATL Academy seems too strong

warm nexus
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x

karmic grotto
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There they go

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Another 4-0

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Also, Hanamura, meme comp

cunning sable
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if it was just hanzo

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it would be alot nicer

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hanzo and the dragons not the quote

slow walrus
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I feel upset bc my college gives my team no recognition whatsoever and the same funding as a regular student organization

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@UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON

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in all seriousness though it's fantastic and it provides another path to pro

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hopefully blizzard will endorse it/let it become serious enough for that though

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bc there's plenty of players who just never get involved/leave university to play overwatch professionally

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it would be fantastic to have some sort of system which encouraged them to finish college instead of quitting out

rustic plaza
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collegiate is on a much lower level tho

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wont be really a path to pro

slow walrus
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ex. Seagull stopped going to WSU to pursue pro level

rustic plaza
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but more of a separate thing to get scholarships which is always niec

slow walrus
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I mean

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following the model of professional sports, it could be a path to pro

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I know there's a contenders player (zeerocious) that plays for UC Irvine

rustic plaza
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he is not a contenders player

slow walrus
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is he not??

rustic plaza
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no

slow walrus
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lol what

rustic plaza
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hes not very good

slow walrus
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you have some specific problem with zeerocious

rustic plaza
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no i do not

slow walrus
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I'm confused

rustic plaza
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he was on the local lan sister team to a team i coached

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he tried out for the main roster

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and rang a lot

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i know him pretty well as a player

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great guy

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lacks game sense

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inconsistent on widow

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which is his best hero by far

slow walrus
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ic

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I recognized his name from somewhere, I assumed it was contenders

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any idea where I would have seen him?

rustic plaza
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sfshock fan events

slow walrus
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such as the california cup?

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or

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bc I watched that

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either way I'm glad to see college ow representation, I know young players like super/sinatraa are probably putting off college to play ow, and if the game dies in a few years, they either master a new game or have to go to college/get a job after all that time which is rough

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at least this way people can get a community with a mindset oriented around professional play while still being able to earn a degree

rustic plaza
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ye that thing

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i would play or coach tespa if my uni had it for sure

slow walrus
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I'm on UW's b-team as a plat-diamond player lol

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tespa is pretty lit

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we get lanyards hopefully

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Rn my team is ranked 3 places behind WSU's a-team, which is our rival school

gaunt acorn
sullen berry
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outside PTR, were away skins always available prior to the seasonal patch?

gaunt acorn
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no

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only via all-access pass

sullen berry
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bingo

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I thought that was the reason i could see streamers with away skins

gaunt acorn
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nice thing about that is

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all the away skins i got from all-access pass

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it now grants me the home version too

slow walrus
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oh nice

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wow

sullen berry
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👏🏼

pallid spruce
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I have the away skins

gaunt acorn
sullen berry
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Meta Athena and Meta Bellum dissolving into one now?

vagrant niche
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Holy crap

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Fan the hammer now deletes Brigitte

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i wonder when the normies are going to get that memo

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we might actually stop seeing that deleteBrig stuff

hidden vault
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@gaunt acorn what if we get the all access pass now?

gaunt acorn
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@hidden vault then i would imagine you'd get the away skins

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then their home variants on top of that

hidden vault
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Hmm alright

gaunt acorn
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not to mention the other home variants you get to begin with

pearl stratus
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The meme never dies:

vagrant niche
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he had the same birthday as me

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and my Genji skin is the fuel for obvious reasons zaryalul

hallow remnant
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where would i find a team to try out for like open div

pearl stratus
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I'd check team recruitment, and then try and find some of the other competitive discords

ruby pendant
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@hallow remnant Think it's to late

hallow remnant
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ok

pearl stratus
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Home Games will only be: Dallas, Atlanta, Los Angeles for 2019.

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So. Called it 😛

limber pine
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called it from where?

pearl stratus
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When they first announced the road games thing, and people were trying to include Canada etc.

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I stuck to straight US only because all the visas etc are already in place. They just need venues for dry runs to make sure production value is fine when outside the Blizzard arena.

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I equate it to test markets prior to a global product launch.

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I wasn't expecting a 3.5million increase in prize pool though.

limber pine
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unexpected but nice

pearl stratus
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I figured there would be a small increase, but not that much

limber pine
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It's hard to gauge an expected value from a franchised league

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with so few esports doing it

pearl stratus
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Yeah, but it seems like an appropriate number in retrospect with how many teams they did pick up.

limber pine
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true true

pearl stratus
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Also if you need for pins anywher:

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Thats for Stage 1

ruby pendant
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Finally, generous prize. Season 2 is looking better and better!

pearl stratus
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So I know this is mostly about OW, but this whole thing about China banning Fortnite and PubG? That's interesting.

limber pine
hidden vault
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Missing paris eternal in the emotes

pearl stratus
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ParisEternal ?

ruby pendant
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why did they ban fortnite?

pearl stratus
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From what I've researched and found they basically focused on all BR's for gore and violence.

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OW/LoL are close to being banned, but require corrective action.

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OW has immoral things (probably McCree smoking, etc), and inharmonious chat (toxic) that they don't feel Blizzard controlled well enough, I guess.

torpid charm
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Looks like I’m going to Atlanta boomDance2

prime folio
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who is hyped for the fusion vs spitfire game?

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all I want to see is Atlanta play Fusion and im happy

karmic grotto
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when

torpid charm
limber pine
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so I assumed teams would play 0 - 3 games a week per stage, but it looks like 1 - 2 instead

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no wait

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0 - 2

sullen berry
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GZC pls

coarse willow
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i think im switching from seoul to vancouver this season

sullen berry
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Can say there's a problem with that

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Fissure and Zunba leads this seasons tank line

coarse willow
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oh yea fuck i live under a rock i completely forgot they picked up fissure

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nvm

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im staying

sullen berry
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They're not the best new tank duo

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But one to keep an eye out for

coarse willow
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idk why i even had the thought to switch

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god im unloyal lmao

sullen berry
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Self doubt

coarse willow
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yea i should be proud of myself

sullen berry
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I am not exclusively a spitfire supporter

coarse willow
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im one of the few seoul fans who started as a seoul fan and stayed one through the season no matter how bad they did

sullen berry
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But when grand finals kicks in you know I'm rooting for the raw mechanics team

coarse willow
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yea imma be loyal

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i bought a sticker pack for seoul i cant leave

fleet walrus
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Who’s better

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Vancouver or Spitfire

coarse willow
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lul

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whos better

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shanghai or any of the new teams

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(answer is shanghai POGGERS)

gaunt acorn
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doubt

sullen berry
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More doubt than valiant being in top 6?

analog lark
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I ditched Valiant when they ditched Verbo

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Literally the only reason i rooted for valiant in season 1

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Valiant is playoff material though

hidden vault
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@pearl stratus I meant nobody reacted with paris eternal in #esports-news

rare sonnet
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Valiant are like 6th imo

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Agilities doesn’t play enough heroes

hidden vault
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Was verbo good?

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He didn't even made it into Canada's owwc shortlisted team tho

rare sonnet
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Verbo was busy with Valiant stuff when Canada was trialling, ironically

hidden vault
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Lmao

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But in the 1st place valiant choose custa instead of verbo

pearl stratus
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Thats not a hard choice.

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Verbo is good, which isn't a problem at all, but Custa has solid leadership qualities and comms. He's extremely likeable and kind of brings people together from what they've said.

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After their initial issues that was the perfect person for their roster.

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I think a lot of teams are still growing into the fact that raw skill alone doesn't do it, look at some of the people that weren't picked up by any teams.

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They play so many more games with so much more pressure than Contenders, its a different mindset and team environment.

hidden vault
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Indeed but what I meant was verbo should have known that was gonna be released and look to prove himself in world cup

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It is indeed ironic

analog lark
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Verbo is a good player, sad that he didn't get resigned

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To a different OWL roster

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Custa just brings so much

hidden vault
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Non korean players aren't that sought much

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Most players that got resigned are koreans

sullen berry
surreal lichen
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Charge overrated, now it’s time gimme gimme Runaway activated > :3

sullen berry
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I mean

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You could just have another 80-100% Korean roster

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But picking up EU players in a 1/5 Chinese roster is a multinationalist company's dream

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!players justice

somber yewBOT
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Washington Justice Roster
janus

tank

Fahzix

support

Sansam

tank

Corey

offense

Stratus

flex

Hyeonu

support

gido

flex

Ado

offense

sullen berry
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!players fuel

somber yewBOT
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Dallas Fuel Roster
HarryHook

support

aKm

offense

uNKOE

support

OGE

tank

Taimou

offense

Closer

support

Mickie

flex

rCk

flex

ZachaREEE

offense

EFFECT

offense

hidden vault
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Why would kyb go Guangzhou?

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Or rather why woukd Guangzhou pick up kyb?

sullen berry
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Why not

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Unlike shanghai

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GZ has set out and focused on an international roster from the very beginning

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That being said, meta bellum is essential for a core of Korean players that can't be replaced with ordinary international players, to maintain viability

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Carpe is an example of a hard carry during the regular season that was helped by players like fragi and boombox

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Effect is the opposite, his carry potential was there but needed a lot more reliance on the rest of his team to pull through when xQc/cocco/mickie plus chips/custa/harryhook didn't play into the teams' quirks well in stages 1-2. Last season

pearl stratus
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I'd argue that Carpe's carry potential also helped with the fact that Eqo was pretty stellar, so he had a secondary DPS.

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Dallas had...

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A bunch of washed up shit

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Its hard to 1v11

analog lark
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How good will dallas be now

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With Closer and rCk

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I'd say low midtier, i think Dallas' success in stage four was mainly thanks to the meta, Seagull provided a great d.va that allowed Mickie to shine on brig

pearl stratus
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I think they'll be solid mid, probably make it to each stages finals.

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But I put that mostly on Aero, and the growth of some of the players.

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While I still think OGE is a shit bag for boosting I think he has a good team mentality and can lead very well. If he can get ladder fuckwads to work together he can get Dallas to.

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I also think they have actual DPS now, not a super limited hitscan pool they put too much resources into.

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But we'll need to see how Zach works/grows.

analog lark
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True i suppose, I'm thinking 12th-14th. Btw

pearl stratus
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Eh I see them more 8-12, with the potential to grow a bit if they've gotten the coaching they need.

analog lark
#

There are so many decent teams, i don't feel right placing them higher

pearl stratus
#

I still think Shock is going to be the most "surprising" jump of placement.

analog lark
#

I could easily see San Fran Shock being 5th or 15th

pearl stratus
#

I think it just depends on how quickly they overcome the language barrier if they try to mix.

#

Poor Moth needs some intensive Korean lessons.

analog lark
#

Indeed

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There's no bischu to help him like Fissure and LAG

#

In game i mean

#

On a tangent Bischu is amazing

pearl stratus
#

I'm sad Silkthread quit instead of going on to be Bischu 2.0

analog lark
#

Being able to play an OWL level D.va and doing live translations at the same time is rather amazing

pearl stratus
#

I just hope the games start at more of a Stage 3/4 intensity and we don't relapse back to Stage 1 for a bit.

#

Stage 3/4 was nice because on any given day you could have some random ass upsets.

analog lark
#

Yeah

pearl stratus
#

Also it was funny listening to Jake explain about poor Shanghai on the podcast.

#

And every team prepping for them ridiculously hard in Stage 3/4.

#

"We're playing Shock and Shanghai this week." Full week prep for Shanghai.

analog lark
#

That's sad, why beat a dead horse

pearl stratus
#

Because by then you could lose to Shanghai if you didn't prep.

#

And it was more scary to lose to Shanghai, and be their first win, than to lose to Shock who you might lose to anyway.

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No one team wanted to be their first win.

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So they prepped for them. Hard.

limber pine
#

pretty much

balmy wolf
#

!players mayhem

somber yewBOT
#
Florida Mayhem Roster
HaGoPeun

support

SWoN

tank

sayaplayer

offense

Kris

support

TviQ

offense

xepheR

flex

bqb

offense

Apply

offense

SNT

tank

analog lark
#

Still looks bad

limber pine
#

yeah I don't have a lot of faith either

pearl stratus
#

Trade Kris to another team plz.

#

I don't want my name associated with the Misfits org.

#

ITT: People find out a job is more like a job than fun times and candy.

pearl stratus
#

Oh Contenders.

#

So many ults, so few kills.

pearl stratus
#

@limber pine This is actually... pretty good and makes me dislike Kephrii a little less nowadays

ruby pendant
#

"redemption" lol

pearl stratus
#

I mean, he's arguably doing pretty solidly in Contenders and is actually making the steps. It's a proper fit of the word.

#

No flex whatsoever so I don't think he'll leave Contenders for a while (especially with his language barriers)

#

But he's not doing badly.

ruby pendant
#

I trust you, we'll see if he ever leave Contenders.

pearl stratus
#

If he can get some more flex I could see him potentially doing it. But right now his hero pool is a specialist pool, which doesn't help him.

green stump
#

@pearl stratus the thing is that he's trying to be legit. He wants to prove himself and to his haters he has what it takes and people are growing too cheer him on. It's a story of growing up to achieve a victory.

The day he walks down stage in owl will be a very special moment that will be cheered in by thousands of fans he earned and inspired

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Which I'm sure overwatch will be fully behind

upper niche
#

See, I'm not sure an opinion video of anyone by Jayne is gonna give anyone negative opinions of someone, as that appears to be what he's trying to do. The immediate reaction by a lot of people would be the enemy of my enemy is my friend response, so a takedown video by Jayne can only go in Kephrii's favour.

karmic grotto
#

Dafraaaaan

limber pine
#

He’s definitely a contenders-level Widow

#

But what else does he have

pearl stratus
#

Nothing and I think thats his biggest misunderstanding of going from Contenders to OWL. He notes it at the end he most likely won't continue doing contenders because economically it'd be just stupid.

karmic grotto
#

He reached his peak

#

Needs to accept that

balmy wolf
#

Guys how hard do you think it is to start making money of playing video games ( streaming , tournaments , etc)

#

I rly wanna be an esport famer but i dont want to waste years of training and fail

grand glade
#

@balmy wolf mood

#

however, the best things are worth the chance of failing and if you never try then you will never succeed

balmy wolf
#

But if i failed in it it ll probably affect my whole life , also i have to get a good pc , good internet (which is so hard to get where i live) if it is too risky my mom probably wont support me and pay for all of this

grand glade
#

@balmy wolf yeah same here

#

dm me if you find any information

balmy wolf
#

Yeah sure

balmy wolf
#

I kinda found an idea that may work for me (maybe u2)

#

I already know a little about programming so i will dedicate this year to learning enough amount to work and get the money to buy all my gaming needs

#

So i both get a skill on demand so if i fail in esports

#

And nice gaming gear

#

Cuz tbh gear makes all difference

#

@grand glade

rigid field
#

Saw Jayne say that there was some Symmetra play in Contenders, anyone got a link to a match with that?

wintry kraken
#

@green stump just look at first season of Seagull of what is required by OWL these days. He was hired as Hanzo/Pharah player. By the middle of season, he was their tank player. Do you really think Kephrii would be that flexible ?

hazy venture
rigid field
#

@hazy venture Thanks a lot! I'll find the game from there 😃

hazy venture
#

Tipical mykl running sweaty strats

grand glade
#

how does the washington justice look?

analog lark
#

Pretty bad ngl

limber pine
#

I've been grouping teams into "Playoff" , "Play-in", and "Missing Playoffs"

#

Top 6, 7 - 12, and bottom 8

#

Washington is definitely in the bottom 8

pearl stratus
#

DvaSalt on all of it though, we could all get super surprised. But yeah.

#

Then there's some teams where it could be this giant range.

#

I think Shock will be playoff, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they were in Play-in or Missing Playoff.

limber pine
#

hm

analog lark
#

Shock is a big wild card

limber pine
#

Shock was trending upward at the end of last season

#

I just don't see them being a lot better

#

is smurf > super, viol2t > sleepy, and striker > Danteh

pearl stratus
#

Viol2t and Smurf should both be relatively noticeable upgrades.

#

Striker is wildcard imo, since his attitude issues could be bad. However with Rascal + Architect you have double korean dps potential.

#

If Viol2t plays like he was in Contenders at least, we'll see how he adapts to OWL.

hidden vault
#

So shock is going full korean?

limber pine
#

it looks like they're going in that direction

pearl stratus
#

All that would be left is to drop babybay and pick up a main healer, honestly.

#

But from their scrims they were mixing.

#

So no ones actually sure.

#

Viol2t was going to be picked up by someone either way, so I don't think it was 100% replacing Sleepy.

#

More like "This kid is Jjonak'ing all over Korean Contenders, we should get it."

limber pine
#

yeah it'd be disappointing to see super and sleepy benched

pearl stratus
#

Super I found amazingly underwhelming.

#

Yes, he looked better than Nomy.

#

But Bob is a better tank than Nomy.

limber pine
#

lul

pearl stratus
#

But he also could be getting downplayed because he launched at the same time as Space.

#

And Space is insane.

#

So Super just looks bad by comparison

#

Not the same roles, but nearly the same hype.

#

One lived up to it, one didn't.

#

Smurf is really smart though, his play is great. Same with Choi.

#

But I wouldn't want to see Choi flat out replace Nevix.

#

Because I think Nevix has been a key player for them.

#

I'll miss iRemix, but I dont see him getting back into pro play with his showing on Skyfoxes - to tangent to another team.

limber pine
#

tbf skyfoxes has made a lot of pros look bad

pearl stratus
#

Agreed, but to go from a bench tank on LAG to a tank on Skyfoxes with 0 wins, to getting cut for a korean swap prior to the fact they'll need to completely remake the team

#

It doesn't look good.

#

Like they chose to completely drop him, knowing they'll need another tank soon with the region locks.

#

But at the end of the day I don't care who's from where, or what happens, as long as its good games to watch.

analog lark
#

I hope verbo gets picked up

#

Verbo isn't the best player out there

#

But i have a soft heart for him

green stump
#

Ptr patch notes, the new owl skins available in ptr

upper niche
#

That Sym/Bastion video was bloody fantastic 😄

#

I've wanted to do exactly those strats for a while so the idea of them is not new to me, but I've never once had a team remotely coordinated enough to come close to pulling it off.

limber pine
#

Playoff: LondonSpitfire LAValiant LAGladiators NYExcelsior PhiliFusion SeoulDynasty
Play-in: BostonUprising DallasFuel HangzhouSpark ParisEternal SFShock VancouverTitans
Out: AtlantaReign ChengduHunters GuangzhouCharge HoustonOutlaws FloridaMayhem ShanghaiDragons TorontoDefiant WashingtonJustice

#

would be my 5-second, pleb opinion

pearl stratus
#

If anyone wants a hilarious stream to watch right now.

#

Seagull is three stacking with Dafran and Emongg.

#

And they keep playing into a three stack with an Orissa, Bastion (Kolorblind), and Sym (Stevoo)

#

And they're insanely fun games to watch.

swift sand
#

At one point EvilToaster was with Stevoo and Kolorblind

#

That was amazing

#

Cause he’s a top Orisa

pearl stratus
#

He might still be, I never caught the Orissas name

swift sand
#

Hmm

#

Maybe

#

I’m excited to see RunAway play in OWL

pearl stratus
#

Its nice seeing actual OW games on Ranked, though. Stacking really is the solution.

swift sand
#

I’ve been waiting for them to make it

#

Yes it is

#

When I do comp I queue with at least 2-3 of my team mates

#

Cause I play in a little league lol

#

We’re all gold and plat tho

sullen berry
#

@limber pine that's not bad

limber pine
#

What my list?

sullen berry
#

It's missing shanghai

limber pine
#

oh yeah sure is

sullen berry
#

I was hoping you were thinking dragons had a chance to step up against its competition

#

Playoff: NYExcelsior LondonSpitfire SeoulDynasty LAGladiators BostonUprising SFShock
Play-in: ShanghaiDragons LAValiant VancouverTitans GuangzhouCharge TorontoDefiant PhiliFusion
Out: ParisEternal ChengduHunters AtlantaReign HoustonOutlaws HangzhouSpark FloridaMayhem HoustonOutlaws DallasFuel WashingtonJustice

#

This is subject to how volatile these team changes could be over the course of the regular season

#

If they add trade or keep their entire core roster, I hope that my predictions will hold up. Confidence level is under 30% btw

balmy wolf
#

GOATS is boring to watch now

sullen berry
#

Watching fusions explain how Team UK used GOATS comp with Jayne was really insightful

#

@green stump so keen to get season 2 team skins for orisa

hidden vault
#

I don't think Paris is great now though

#

So is bostom sfs

#

Philly actually has a chance

#

So does valiant and gladiators

forest raven
#

I'm watching Envy vs KDU rn

#

From APEX season 1

#

Hook 1.0 and absolutely OP dva PogW

balmy wolf
#

Searching for a Caster for Open Division Games. PM me for mor Info.

queen drift
#

@sullen berry you missed Shanghai too

sullen berry
#

I tried to bump them up

queen drift
#

Everyone forgetting Shanghai smh

sullen berry
#

not sure why we both didn't add them tbh

#

i had it before

queen drift
#

SMH

sullen berry
#

but switched when there were too many inside play-in brackets

#

!teams

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Team Names
<:DAL:438251672783814657> Dallas Fuel

DAL

<:PHI:438251672536481794> Philadelphia Fusion

PHI

<:HOU:438251672821563402> Houston Outlaws

HOU

<:BOS:438251672633081857> Boston Uprising

BOS

<:NYE:438251672997724160> New York Excelsior

NYE

<:SFS:438251672712642571> San Francisco Shock

SFS

<:VAL:438251672720900097> Los Angeles Valiant

VAL

<:GLA:438251672632950787> Los Angeles Gladiators

GLA

<:FLA:438251672779882506> Florida Mayhem

FLA

<:SHD:438251672599527437> Shanghai Dragons

SHD

<:SEO:438251672754585602> Seoul Dynasty

SEO

<:LDN:438251672876351489> London Spitfire

LDN

undefined Chengdu Hunters

CDH

undefined Hangzhou Spark

HZS

undefined Paris Eternal

PAR

undefined Toronto Defiant

TOR

undefined Vancouver Titans

VAN

undefined Washington Justice

WAS

undefined Atlanta Reign

ATL

undefined Guangzhou Charge

GZC

queen drift
#

im gonna get val / van so mixed up

rare sonnet
#

Why are they not VTI

#

Or TTN

limber pine
#

@sullen berry you have Houston twice

sullen berry
#

it was never planned I swear 😭

limber pine
#

Uh huh

sullen berry
#

Playoff: NYExcelsior LondonSpitfire SeoulDynasty LAGladiators BostonUprising SFShock
Play-in: ShanghaiDragons LAValiant VancouverTitans GuangzhouCharge TorontoDefiant PhiliFusion
Out: ParisEternal ChengduHunters AtlantaReign HangzhouSpark FloridaMayhem HoustonOutlaws DallasFuel WashingtonJustice

#

doesn't change personally

#

now I need a whole weekend before xmas to analyze the regular season schedule

#

the stage 1 week 4 schedule seems off

queen drift
#

Playoff: NYExcelsior LondonSpitfire SeoulDynasty PhiliFusion SFShock LAValiant

#

Play-in: ShanghaiDragons VancouverTitans LAGladiators DallasFuel

#

Out: BostonUprising HoustonOutlaws ParisEternal

#

I don't know enough about the other teams

torpid charm
#

Playoff: NYExcelsior LondonSpitfire LAGladiators SFShock
Play-in: DallasFuel TorontoDefiant VancouverTitans PhiliFusion LAValiant HangzhouSpark
Out: FloridaMayhem HoustonOutlaws ParisEternal ShanghaiDragons WashingtonJustice BostonUprising ChengduHunters GuangzhouCharge AtlantaReign SeoulDynasty

queen drift
#

forgot seoul @torpid charm

torpid charm
#

Thank you, I couldn’t figure out which one I was missing zaryalul

queen drift
#

haha

torpid charm
#

I have no faith for so many teams. I thought I was going in blind last season but I honestly don’t know what to expect at all from anyone now (except Mayhem)

queen drift
#

OOF

#

rip seoul

torpid charm
#

My opinions aren’t valid HYPERLUL

queen drift
#

nah i mostly agree with your list

torpid charm
#

I’ve heard things about what’s going on regarding scrims with Seoul, so I’m convinced they won’t be able to do it this year just because

queen drift
#

i could see them being low playin

#

i dont want them to do well

#

hate that fissure found success somewhere good

torpid charm
#

I can’t hate, at least he’s happy.

surreal lichen
#

Me: Can’t to support Dallas! Loved the Fuel guys since Envyus UwU

Also me: Can’t wait for reddit threads blaming Zacharee/Aero cuz every team needs a good scapegoat for the drama and storyline 💁🏻‍♀️☕️

torpid charm
#

zoomeyes what Reddit threads

sullen berry
#

only quality /r/competitiveOW threads

deft hedge
#

has everyone seen the games

#

the new skins

limber pine
#

rip sugarfree

#

OWL 2023

forest raven
limber pine
#

filthy

sullen berry
#

Sparkle with an OW League team wipe

balmy wolf
#

Out of the new team's who most likely to succeed

gaunt acorn
#

vancouver & hangzhou

brave quarry
#

when is Spark coming to the league?

balmy wolf
#

When does Vancouver play in Stage 1?

#

!players titans

somber yewBOT
#
Vancouver Titans Roster
BUMPER

tank

Hooreg

offense

Stitch

offense

Twilight

support

SeoMinSoo

flex

Haksal

offense

SLIME

support

RAPEL

support

JJANU

tank

balmy wolf
#

RUNAWAY FIGHTING

cursive zealot
#

!players atlanta

somber yewBOT
#
Atlanta Reign Roster
Erster

offense

Kodak

support

Masaa

support

Gator

tank

dafran

offense

Daco

tank

NLaaeR

offense

Pokpo

tank

lament gust
#

!players Washington

somber yewBOT
#
Washington Justice Roster
janus

tank

Fahzix

support

Sansam

tank

Corey

offense

Stratus

flex

Hyeonu

support

Ado

offense

gido

flex

river ember
#

!plays Shanghai

#

!players Shanghai

somber yewBOT
#
Shanghai Dragons Roster
Geguri

tank

Diya

offense

Fearless

tank

river ember
#

!players Excelsior

somber yewBOT
#
New York Excelsior Roster
Mano

tank

Saebyeolbe

offense

Meko

tank

Anamo

support

Pine

flex

Jjonak

support

Libero

offense

Flower

offense

Ark

support

Nenne

offense

river ember
#

!players Titans

somber yewBOT
#
Vancouver Titans Roster
BUMPER

tank

Hooreg

offense

Stitch

offense

Twilight

support

SeoMinSoo

flex

Haksal

offense

SLIME

support

RAPEL

support

JJANU

tank

river ember
#

!players Fusion

somber yewBOT
#
Philadelphia Fusion Roster
Boombox

support

Poko

flex

Carpe

offense

Snillo

offense

SADO

tank

fragi

tank

Eqo

offense

Elk

support

Neptuno

support

river ember
#

!plays Uprising

#

!players Uprising

somber yewBOT
#
Boston Uprising Roster
blase

offense

Axxiom

tank

AimGod

support

Kellex

support

ColourHex

offense

Fusions

tank

alemao

support

Gamsu

tank

NotE

tank

upper niche
#

Did they reduce the roster size to 10? I don't remember seeing anything official or any statement saying they had, but everyone seems to have reduced their squad size to <=10

limber pine
#

It’s still 12

#

But with two-way players, and the end of season 1 embracing more flexible players, teams have leaned more toward smaller rosters.

balmy wolf
#

australian contenders just started anyone wanna discuss in voice chat?

dusk hinge
#

Drop bears obviously will win

#

I wonder who will get 2nd place

river ember
#

!players runaway

somber yewBOT
#

No such team 'runaway', for full teams list please type !teams

river ember
#

!teams

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Team Names
<:DAL:438251672783814657> Dallas Fuel

DAL

<:PHI:438251672536481794> Philadelphia Fusion

PHI

<:HOU:438251672821563402> Houston Outlaws

HOU

<:BOS:438251672633081857> Boston Uprising

BOS

<:NYE:438251672997724160> New York Excelsior

NYE

<:SFS:438251672712642571> San Francisco Shock

SFS

<:VAL:438251672720900097> Los Angeles Valiant

VAL

<:GLA:438251672632950787> Los Angeles Gladiators

GLA

<:FLA:438251672779882506> Florida Mayhem

FLA

<:SHD:438251672599527437> Shanghai Dragons

SHD

<:SEO:438251672754585602> Seoul Dynasty

SEO

<:LDN:438251672876351489> London Spitfire

LDN

undefined Chengdu Hunters

CDH

undefined Hangzhou Spark

HZS

undefined Paris Eternal

PAR

undefined Toronto Defiant

TOR

undefined Vancouver Titans

VAN

undefined Washington Justice

WAS

undefined Atlanta Reign

ATL

undefined Guangzhou Charge

GZC

river ember
#

!players gladiators

somber yewBOT
#
Los Angeles Gladiators Roster
Surefour

flex

Void

tank

rOar

tank

Ripa

support

Bischu

tank

Shaz

support

Decay

offense

Hydration

offense

BigG00se

support

balmy wolf
#

!players titans

somber yewBOT
#
Vancouver Titans Roster
BUMPER

tank

Hooreg

offense

Stitch

offense

Twilight

support

SeoMinSoo

flex

Haksal

offense

SLIME

support

RAPEL

support

JJANU

tank

balmy wolf
#

!PLAYERS shock

somber yewBOT
#
San Francisco Shock Roster
Smurf

tank

Moth

support

STRIKER

offense

Choihyobin

tank

super

flex

BABYBAY

offense

sinatraa

offense

sleepy

support

Rascal

offense

Nevix

flex

Architect

offense

Viol2t

support

grim sentinel
#

!Dynasty

hollow jasper
#

!players dynasty

somber yewBOT
#
Seoul Dynasty Roster
Marve1

tank

FITS

flex

ZUNBA

tank

Munchkin

offense

tobi

support

ryujehong

flex

Jecse

support

Fissure

tank

Michelle

flex

Fleta

offense

sullen berry
sullen berry
#

Diverse MC: GuangzhouCharge DallasFuel AtlantaReign WashingtonJustice LAGladiators LAValiant BostonUprising TorontoDefiant FloridaMayhem PhiliFusion
Subtle Mixed Rosters HangzhouSpark ShanghaiDragons FloridaMayhem SFShock HoustonOutlaws
Regional Core Roster: NYExcelsior LondonSpitfire VancouverTitans ChengduHunters ParisEternal

surreal lichen
#

!players Fuel

somber yewBOT
#
Dallas Fuel Roster
HarryHook

support

aKm

offense

uNKOE

support

OGE

tank

Taimou

offense

Closer

support

Mickie

flex

rCk

flex

ZachaREEE

offense

EFFECT

offense

red parcel
#

!players outlaws

somber yewBOT
#
Houston Outlaws Roster
Muma

tank

Bani

support

Boink

support

LiNkzr

offense

SPREE

flex

ArHaN

flex

Rawkus

support

Jake

offense

Danteh

offense

coolmatt

tank

pearl stratus
#

WholesomeWatch: Linkzr just randomly dropping that he's engaged on stream.

brave quarry
#

when is SPARK coming to the league, i want those sweet pink skins

pearl stratus
#

They're on PTR currently, so it looks like they'll be for sale sooner rather than later.

manic storm
#

when is owl season 2

jagged crater
#

feb

limber pine
balmy wolf
#

!players Dallas Fuel

somber yewBOT
#

Usage: !players [team] - Get the players of a specific team

balmy wolf
#

!players dallas fuel

somber yewBOT
#

Usage: !players [team] - Get the players of a specific team

balmy wolf
#

oh well

pearl stratus
#

!players Fuel

somber yewBOT
#
Dallas Fuel Roster
HarryHook

support

aKm

offense

uNKOE

support

OGE

tank

Taimou

offense

Closer

support

Mickie

flex

rCk

flex

ZachaREEE

offense

EFFECT

offense

pearl stratus
#

Just team name, no geography needed.

#

Ooof.

#

Numlocked, who talked a little smack about OWL, getting manhandled in Contenders right now.

sullen berry
#

!players hunters

somber yewBOT
#
Chengdu Hunters Roster
Yveltal

support

ameng

tank

Elsa

tank

lateyoung

tank

GARRY

support

YangXiaoLong

offense

Kyo

support

JinMu

flex

tribal mauve
#

!players spark

somber yewBOT
#
Hangzhou Spark Roster
Krystal

flex

iDK

support

BEBE

support

Bazzi

offense

Adora

flex

Guxue

tank

Ria

flex

Revenge

support

NoSmite

tank

GodsB

offense

ancient bison
#

will there be another preseason or am I just being stupid rn?

tulip sparrow
#

No preseason this year iirc

ruby pendant
#

short preseason

gaunt acorn
#

@ancient bison yes there will be a preseason

sullen berry
#

No preseason news though, give or take 2 weeks to announce, play and prepare before regular season over one weekend

pearl stratus
#

They announced the pre season like two weeks ago, its short. Like 4-6 days or something

surreal lichen
#

!players Uprising

somber yewBOT
#
Boston Uprising Roster
blase

offense

Axxiom

tank

AimGod

support

Kellex

support

ColourHex

offense

Fusions

tank

alemao

support

Gamsu

tank

NotE

tank

sullen berry
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Blase is underrated

forest raven
queen drift
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2016 dive was genji genji winston Winston Lucio Lucio

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Smh

forest raven
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Early 2016

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This is October

queen drift
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always happy to see sbb on tracer tho#

pearl stratus
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@sullen berry I still think Boston is hiding a signing, because Colourhex said he wasn't the carry DPS. And you know its not blase.

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Tl;dr: Coluge is a person who didn't get enough oxygen in the womb. Flat out posted about going back to boosting. Got instantly removed from his team, and asked why he didn't have reddit threads yet.

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Though he didn't kill his career, since he was never good enough to have one above T2.

hazy venture
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!players Eternal

somber yewBOT
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Paris Eternal Roster
SoOn

offense

ShaDowBurn

offense

Greyy

flex

BenBest

tank

LhCloudy

tank

Finnsi

flex

Kruise

support

NiCOgdh

flex

HyP

support

danye

offense

swift sand
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Dude I spent like an hour last night retelling my brother the whole history of the OW meta since beta. Jesus I need help

pearl stratus
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RHJ three stacking on ladder right now. It's not going well for poor Hotba on the other team.

grand glade
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I don't think the VancouverTitans are going to do as good ap people think they would be I think they will be a high mid tier team but will not go far during the playoffs

limber pine
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Agreed.

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I would put them solidly in 7-12, but Idk if I can put them in 1-6

pearl stratus
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I don't think anyones really said they'd be top, just that they wouldn't be on the bottom.

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They're one of the only expansion teams that looks decent on paper and in theory though.

limber pine
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plus given the success of NYXL and London importing "full teams", it's hard not to give them a long leash

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@pearl stratus both people from the preseason show had Vancouver very high

pearl stratus
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Since when do we trust those people though?

limber pine
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we don't

pearl stratus
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Thats like trusting a Bren prediction 😛

limber pine
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just saying though

pearl stratus
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Honestly I don't hate that list - minus LAV. LAV is -way- too low.

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Swap LAV and Vancouver and I'm not anti-Emily.

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Oh wait. Wrong list cross checking.

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Vancouver at 8/9 with Hangzhou seems fine.

limber pine
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Playoff: LondonSpitfire LAValiant LAGladiators NYExcelsior PhiliFusion SeoulDynasty
Play-in: BostonUprising DallasFuel HangzhouSpark ParisEternal SFShock VancouverTitans
Out: AtlantaReign ChengduHunters GuangzhouCharge HoustonOutlaws FloridaMayhem ShanghaiDragons TorontoDefiant WashingtonJustice

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Seem pretty consistent with my predictions

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sans shanghai

pearl stratus
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Playoff: LondonSpitfire LAValiant LAGladiators NYExcelsior PhiliFusion SFShock

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Play-in: DallasFuel HangzhouSpark VancouverTitans SeoulDynasty ShanghaiDragons ParisEternal for me.

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Boston is a fence for me.

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I think its liable to change when they announce their last DPS.

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Because I still firmly believe they're announcing more dps.

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My fence picks would be: GuangzhouCharge BostonUprising HoustonOutlaws

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If the meta doesn't shift substantially this is actually a really good set of comps for Houston.

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Also did you see Jayne's interview with Kephrii? Kephrii stating, with no explanation, that Linkzr is the scariest widow in the league to me was interesting, and I wish he'd have elaborated.

limber pine
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i did not see it

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I know Linkzr is a very good widow v widow player

pearl stratus
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He refused to explain why, but he said all things that he'd say Linkzr is the best in the league. And I want to know why, but he refuses to comment on that stuff.

limber pine
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hm

pearl stratus
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For me I think its because Linkzr's pop off is ridiculous, and his consistency is at the higher end of some peoples pop. But I don't know.

limber pine
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GuangzhouCharge BostonUprising and HoustonOutlaws are all fine fence choices.

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I feel like they could be anywhere between 10 and 20

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SFShock probably the best.

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anywhere between terrific and terrible

pearl stratus
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It's basically all about which team overcomes their language barriers / cohesion with those teams.

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I think alemao speaks fluent English, which gives Boston an esge

queen drift
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Boston are gonna do a lot worse imo

limber pine
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i honestly don't see how. The worst part of their team was their dps and I don't think they've gotten any worse

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If Gamsu leaves, then that's a different conversation

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Aimgod = Neko

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I think they'll do worse overall, but I don't see a drop into the bottom 5-6 like a lot of people

queen drift
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striker and gamsu were the best part of boston

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i doubt gamsu stays

pearl stratus
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I think he stays because he has no where else useful to be.

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Where's he going to go... Florida?

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That's like signing your professional death bell.

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I guess he could go back to Korea and play Contenders.

karmic grotto
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Today

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Is NA contenders?

limber pine
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Yes

sullen berry
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Dray won't be getting his Vancouver vs Uprising match until Stage 2

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I'm assured this is going to be promotable if both teams make their presence known early on

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The Pacific version of that? Maybe..

gaunt acorn
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why would i care about vancouver vs uprising @sullen berry

sullen berry
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Why not

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Both established in completely different ways

gaunt acorn
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yeah but you mentioned me

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i don't really care about uprising

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they're pretty trash

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what's the significance

torpid charm
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Uprising HYPERLUL

sullen berry
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Vancouver and Boston?

gaunt acorn
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oh right

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sorry i totally disassociated nhl beef

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because uprising are so shit

sullen berry
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It says the yellow accented matches are TBD and part of Ultimate Weekend

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That might explain the fewer games

vagrant cargo
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@queen drift neko was better than gamsu Same for aimgod and note

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Gamsus rein isnt that good

queen drift
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Neko was better than gamsu?

vagrant cargo
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And in the Playoffs gamsu was, after kellex, the worst Player

queen drift
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U ok?

vagrant cargo
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Yes i am

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Neko is a top Tier flex Support and so is aimgod

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Gamsu Fed in Stage 4 and Playoffs

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I dont see any Team that needs him besides Mayhem

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Also the worst Part about Boston was the Lack of a widow Specialist thats all

limber pine
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I'm worried about their lack of dps in general

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I know they said they have more coming, but I'd like to see it first

pearl stratus
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While its a Mykl article so i hate it.

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It's still about to happen.

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The two known ones would be Axiom and Dafran.

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I wonder who else.

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Oh Happy from Hangzhou had some stuff going on iirc.

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But he donated his entire salary on Meta Bellum when that first came out

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So Blizzard might let him go through.

vagrant cargo
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@limber pine Boston is Not going to be good next season i think

limber pine
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I respectfully disagree

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I don't think they'll be great, but I don't think they'll be bottom 5 like other people have said

gaunt acorn
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poo team Pepega

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bottom 12 at least

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maybe not quite bottom 5

pearl stratus
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I mean there's people who think Atlanta is going to be insane.

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So who knows.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Right now I'd argue their contenders roster is stronger than their OWL one.

hidden vault
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So bottom 5 who?

limber pine
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This is my list:

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Playoff: LondonSpitfire LAValiant LAGladiators NYExcelsior PhiliFusion SeoulDynasty
Play-in: BostonUprising DallasFuel HangzhouSpark ParisEternal SFShock VancouverTitans
Out: AtlantaReign ChengduHunters GuangzhouCharge HoustonOutlaws FloridaMayhem ShanghaiDragons TorontoDefiant WashingtonJustice

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I don't have a bottom 5 yet

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but it includes Washington without a doubt

pearl stratus
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I think the "gaurantees" for bottom 5 for every list include Washington and Florida for 95% of people.

limber pine
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I'm treating Florida like an expansion team this year

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as I'd think most would

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I expect most of the expansion teams at or near the bottom

swift sand
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I disagree with Shanghai. I have hopes for them this year because they are now made of an actually good roster

limber pine
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Shanghai is one of those teams I feel could be anywhere between 5th and 15th.

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I do like that they've brought in KDP's core roster

pearl stratus
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And Coach.

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And the assistant coach was the EM coach.

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Who worked with Fearless prior.

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Geguri and Diya are the only "new" people to the coaches, which is useful.

limber pine
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aye

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they've certainly put themselves in a position to succeed

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better than Season 1 anyway

pearl stratus
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I personally think they were in good hands with RUI but he needed to go home for surgery and such.

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Since paying for it in the US would have been stupid.

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Sidenote:

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Guxue in the Chinese community had his primal rage nicknamed to #MonkeyBlade.

swift sand
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That’s amazing

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I liked Guxue

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He could be good for those guys

vagrant cargo
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Shanghai this Low?

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What

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Also you underrate how important the atmosphere can be

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Boston has a good Backline

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Solid tankline

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Average at best DPS lineup

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And huk

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Huk Alone is a downbringer

limber pine
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That's why I put them in tiers and not a list

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despite atmosphere, I still think Boston is a Play-in team and Shanghai will miss the playoffs

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ask me in three weeks and that could change

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This is a tier list without seeing any preseason games or any more roster changes

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it's amateur

limber pine
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good

pearl stratus
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Gen G has been doing a ton, hiring Chris Bosh, a bunch of NBA people, etc. It's smart.

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No point in investing this much money just to destroy your assets.

vagrant cargo
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Shanghai is literally the Second best korean Team

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From contenders

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While Boston only Sold good Players

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And got way worse

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Also i dont see Boston competing with any top 10 Team

pearl stratus
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It's not though.

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They have 60% of KDP, not 100%.

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Missing Roar and Decay is noticeable because you're integrating with a new tank.

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And you're losing your primary hitscan.

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They still have growth room.

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It's not comparable to Vancouver which is a 1:1.

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Also the argument that Boston got way worse isn't logical. It's a jump to conclusions mat.

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If the new team is more cohesive they could come out better, despite losing Striker.

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The players that Boston lost where, by literally all accounts, toxic and destructive.

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That causes issues that don't always translate to the game, but can translate into teamwork.

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Right now all we can judge Boston by is what they did last season, and how they did it. Which was some weird ass moneyball coaching that worked really well.

limber pine
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I honestly think that because they did moneyball pretty well last year, they get the benefit of the doubt to do it again.

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It's not like Colourhex and alemao are slouches either

pearl stratus
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Blase isn't either, he seems overall generally consistent. They're just missing a carry.

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I could honestly see them going for some of the leftovers now, like Sinatraa who may want more playing time.

twin cobalt
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I'm excited for boston's new roster and hopeful. They looked decent until s3-4

red dust
#

I hope DallasFuel gets to the finals again in season 2

mossy bone
limber pine
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Really impressed with Second Wind

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they're putting up a good fight against XL2

balmy wolf
#

Let’s talk about something we’ll hear very soon

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”Seoul Dynasty will be your Overwatch league champions”

astral locust
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yea man

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wanna see seoul and nyxl in the finals

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2 of the best korean teams

balmy wolf
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They need to get miro and gido resigned along with whoru and EscA season 3

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Maybe even leetaejun he’s better than munchkin and fleta on hitscan

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Get the dream team together for one last run

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His career shouldn’t have ended struggling in the middle of a season they all are championship material.

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Superstars.

ruby pendant
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@astral locust Want NYXL to be in the finals. Sucks they missed their first chance at it!

balmy wolf
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Nyxl and Seoul. I can see it

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Just focus Jonak 5Head

ruby pendant
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@balmy wolf Think Miro gave up on Overwatch League. Only streams now.

balmy wolf
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He said he didn’t quit esports on his stream. He said he’s not going to be looking for a team at the moment, but that he is not going to avoid giving a team a chance if they wanted him.

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So I mean just look at xqc. The guy always whines “I quit!” But ends up rejoining teams on contenders level or OWC level of some kind of level of competition. Same with mendo, he cries about quitting he yet plays ow as much as he cries, which frankly is a lot.

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@ruby pendant

ruby pendant
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If that's the case then at least there's hope!

balmy wolf
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Yes there is!

If you got kicked from a multiple time world championship team, I think most people would have a moment where they kind of fuck off for a while and treat themselves, then maybe rejoin later and see if your chances at the same old team of yours are still somewhat existent and good and they’ll let you tryout, or if you need to join a new team.

upper niche
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I thought xqc whined a lot until I tried to watch Surefour's twitch channel and a few videos he's done. That guy has issues.

grand kindle
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Hello have french ??

vale hawk
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No French, but if you are looking for a French eSports team, you can check out Paris Eternal

grand kindle
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Dallas fuel is noob

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Paris is strong

hidden vault
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Pretty sure dallas would beat paris

gaunt acorn
#

likely, yes

swift sand
#

!players Houston

somber yewBOT
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Houston Outlaws Roster
Muma

tank

Bani

support

Boink

support

LiNkzr

offense

SPREE

flex

ArHaN

flex

Rawkus

support

Jake

offense

Danteh

offense

coolmatt

tank

limber pine
#

!schedule

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 1 Week 1
<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Feb 14th 19:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:NYE:438251672997724160> NYE vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Feb 14th 20:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

Feb 14th 22:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs HZS undefined

Feb 14th 23:30 EST (in 2 months)

undefined TOR vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

Feb 15th 19:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined ATL vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

Feb 15th 20:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Feb 15th 22:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined CDH vs GZC undefined

Feb 15th 23:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs PAR undefined

Feb 16th 15:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined WAS vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Feb 16th 16:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:VAL:438251672720900097> VAL vs HZS undefined

Feb 16th 18:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined VAN vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Feb 16th 19:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Feb 17th 15:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs ATL undefined

Feb 17th 16:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

Feb 17th 18:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs DAL <:DAL:438251672783814657>

Feb 17th 19:30 EST (in 2 months)

limber pine
#

That undefined team plays a lot of games

severe ridge
#

Cloud 9 is my team

limber pine
#

!players Paris

somber yewBOT
#
Paris Eternal Roster
SoOn

offense

ShaDowBurn

offense

Greyy

flex

BenBest

tank

LhCloudy

tank

Finnsi

flex

Kruise

support

NiCOgdh

flex

HyP

support

danye

offense

tribal mauve
#

!players spark

somber yewBOT
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Hangzhou Spark Roster
Krystal

flex

iDK

support

BEBE

support

Bazzi

offense

Adora

flex

Guxue

tank

Ria

flex

Revenge

support

NoSmite

tank

GodsB

offense

brave quarry
#

when is SPARK coming to the league

pearl stratus
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When the league starts

limber pine
#

Valentine's Day

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!schedule

somber yewBOT
#
Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 1 Week 1
<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Feb 14th 19:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:NYE:438251672997724160> NYE vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Feb 14th 20:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

Feb 14th 22:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs HZS undefined

Feb 14th 23:30 EST (in 2 months)

undefined TOR vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

Feb 15th 19:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined ATL vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

Feb 15th 20:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs SFS <:SFS:438251672712642571>

Feb 15th 22:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined CDH vs GZC undefined

Feb 15th 23:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs PAR undefined

Feb 16th 15:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined WAS vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Feb 16th 16:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:VAL:438251672720900097> VAL vs HZS undefined

Feb 16th 18:00 EST (in 2 months)

undefined VAN vs SHD <:SHD:438251672599527437>

Feb 16th 19:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:HOU:438251672821563402> HOU vs BOS <:BOS:438251672633081857>

Feb 17th 15:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs ATL undefined

Feb 17th 16:30 EST (in 2 months)

<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

Feb 17th 18:00 EST (in 2 months)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs DAL <:DAL:438251672783814657>

Feb 17th 19:30 EST (in 2 months)

limber pine
#

They're the last game on Day 1

torpid charm
#

Can’t wait to see how this undefined team does Keepo

idle beacon
#

mousepads pros here?

smoky spade
#

!players excelsior

somber yewBOT
#
New York Excelsior Roster
Mano

tank

Saebyeolbe

offense

MekO

tank

Anamo

support

Pine

offense

JJONAK

support

Libero

offense

Fl0w3R

offense

ArK

support

Nenne

offense

sullen berry
somber yewBOT
#

Usage: !players [team] - Get the players of a specific team

limber pine
#

cringe

sullen berry
ruby pendant
#

Hopefully, OWL learned their lesson. It was a funny performance though.

limber pine
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@pearl stratus our boy Dafran not suspended yet

green stump
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@limber pine damn it! You beat me to it

limber pine
#

2 fast 4 u

green stump
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2 fast, 2 cranberrt

misty pasture
#

How does Ripa get a 5 game suspension for throwing games

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But other get a 2 day for boosting???

limber pine
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from the link

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While the league reviews each case on its own, key factors informing the level of discipline include both the severity and recency of the actions under review.

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it's possible the boosting is from a long time ago and the throwing is recent

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but nobody knows for sure

misty pasture
#

Tru

limber pine
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I know neko's stuff is from before Season 1

misty pasture
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Ye

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Neko got discovered during playoffs tho?

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So wouldn’t the offense be recent ?

limber pine
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idk

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the boosting is not but the discovery is

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idk how Blizz would handle that

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it does look he got dinged worse because of the obstruction though

normal thistle
#

neko is pretty bad tbh

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refund the game if you like him

rustic plaza
#

they are missing a lot of owl players on the boosting front