@pearl stratus i need that for vancouver
#esports-discussion
sullen berry
The oldest competing of all time is InternetHulk, despite no longer being in the scene
I would expect more gamers to come out from the german powerhaus
Nah, I'm going to be hedging my bets on GZ
If you can't lean on the past
and the futures of these teams immeasurable
I can at least lean on the results of Stage 1 playoffs
winged hamlet
gaunt acorn
@sullen berry i was fucking jebaited
vancouver was not leaked
thank god
@torpid charm im buying the merch again
torpid charm
LMAO I was gonna ping you earlier
torpid charm
The ugliest leak I’ve ever seen in my LIFE
torpid charm
the rest are real??? Really???
gaunt acorn
i was certain there was no way a professional design firm would submit that
and i was right
@torpid charm yeah rest are legit
they were leaked from the owl app
torpid charm
Wowee
gaunt acorn
vancouver has no branding yet it seems
torpid charm
Vancouver slacking
gaunt acorn
yeah
guangzhou's branding already looks pretty cool
unique colours
the storm theme seems cool
chengdu has a weird name + colours are super close to seoul/philly (but at least have a cool logo)
hangzhou sucks all around
washington sucks
paris is eh
dull cypress
@gaunt acorn RIP your wallet
maybe
I'm actually invested in what the vancouver logo will be now
ruby pendant
Teams should take note of NYXL branding.
gaunt acorn
@ruby pendant you mean paying a ton of money to a prestigious design firm?
ruby pendant
investment worth making!!
gaunt acorn
i'm not disagreeing but it cost them a lot
if vancouver could get something close to as good i'd be happy
sullen berry
I'm becoming one of those people who refresh the team's twitter pages
when I see 9 Tweets from the GZ twitter
I am going to pop on this
sullen berry
why do I sense fans will count this as part of the mega jebait
ruby pendant
I'm not familiar with him, but this would have fooled a lot of people.
gaunt acorn
it's not a jebait
sullen berry
watching his videos, it sounds quite traumatic for him
ruby pendant
lol, traumatic?
sullen berry
well that's how mykL tries to portray his soft throwing
gaunt acorn
burgerflippr -> burger flipper
gilded peak
ESPN reported this? Based on a twitter?
ruby pendant
well current day news does the same!!
gilded peak
I mean, I would understand TMZ but come on, ESPN?
gaunt acorn
seems a little presumptuous for you to say that
queen drift
i just dont see how he can go through the process of getting signed to ATL, it must have taken a while and a lot of talking based on how long the leaks were around
to quitting within a week
he was so hyped for the announcement
gaunt acorn
this is dafran we're talking about
doesn't seem like a jebait, just him having a mental breakdown again
gaunt acorn
fair
and i mean, he is
doesn't seem like atlanta were given notice
he just announced it on twitter lol
queen drift
they hadto know
gaunt acorn
i figured they would've had a statement prepared
instead they've remained silent and given reporters "no comment"
queen drift
if they didnt know and the post was all there is, they're probably trying to talk to him
sullen berry
Would you like to close DAFRAN_ATL.exe without saving?
queen drift
no 
sullen berry
Maybe Guangzhou can trade bench players with atlanta
gaunt acorn
dafran_irl
torpid charm
green stump
@gaunt acorn lol so it becomes truth and defran disappoints not only his fans, but makes all his critics right
limber pine
I like this picture: https://twitter.com/411607192/status/1060496686844305408
pearl stratus
So many people still holding onto that last 10% chance that its just a jebait and not a Dumbfran
I appreciate their hope. They're like fat people with undersized elastics.
forest raven
Those people are stupid
limber pine
for the same reason anybody holds on to anything
pearl stratus
Its a lot of trust.
limber pine
I hold on the the 10% chance that the DC team won't be terrible this year
maybe it's false hope, but I like to believe
limber pine
feelsbad
gaunt acorn
logo is scuffed london spitfire
paired with the most unoriginal colours
and weird name
pearl stratus
I'm hoping some of the rumors out of China are wrong too.
gaunt acorn
such as
pearl stratus
Like I'm hoping the Chengdu Owner, who was at Blizzcon, goes back and throws around a shit ton of money
And gets Team China all on Chengdu.
Because he realizes letting it be split up is a horrible plan.
He gets YXL on the roster till Leave is of age.
Keeps Leave on the Chengdu Academy.
sullen berry
letting them split is just that though
I don't have the time to break it down, there were several NA teams that kinda dissolved into LA Gladiators or the Valiant at the start of the regular season
I'm still vehemently determined to see this GZ team or get some semblance of it this week
pearl stratus
Oh I know. I'm just saying I hope someone throws the money in to make it wrong. I think Team China, based on their relatively unique play style and coordination could do decently in OWL. Probably low to midpack for Season 2 since they'd be missing Leave.
But at the same time I like the concept of Silkthread being Bischu 2.0
So.
Hey.
sullen berry
totally with that Bischu 2.0
valuable assets they are to an up and coming team
with Vancouver
well
what is it officially 
we still have to wait for the announcement there too
sullen berry
well, logos and a name would also be nice for a start 😃
sullen berry
nice
limber pine
Vancouver Salmon
sullen berry
Stanley Park
gaunt acorn
nah i would say
limber pine
sullen berry
Vancouver Is Famous for Its Marijuana
gosh, really
I mean it's not the reason people need to go
limber pine
maybe this one
sullen berry
what's the most tech innovative thing happening in Vancouver
gaunt acorn
um
sullen berry
it's no silicon valley but
Auckland is noted for that
we're just called the city of sails
gaunt acorn
yes
pearl stratus
Someone should work on that being Vollywood.
pearl stratus
Vancouver Drizzle
gaunt acorn
it'll be a bird, tree, or water-related
sullen berry
it wouldn't be ideal to name yourself after a weather pattern that's not always fun
gaunt acorn
orcas is too obvious though like i said
sullen berry
vanguard was pretty tongue-in cheek and fits one of those categories
gaunt acorn
Vancouver Ravens could work
just hope it's not another dumb concept
Vancouver Supremacy
plucky rune
Vancouver supreme
gaunt acorn
all i know is that the boston uprising will be our sworn enemy
pearl stratus
Spirit Bears
gaunt acorn
sorry note and huk
pearl stratus
Hopefully you won't be the Stellar Jays.
gaunt acorn
actually not sorry, huk
pearl stratus
Since its a small weak bird.
sullen berry
you mean like the animal race from the chinese zodiac?
who would want to be the rat that came first in that smh
plucky rune
none of the other teams have used animals in their names
plucky rune
wait the dragons
plucky rune
frick
sullen berry
i get shock confused a lot
hopefully, with rascal in their lineup
that will not be the case
clear crane
What do u mean confused
clear crane
Ooo
sullen berry
karmic grotto
Hol up
magic zinc
European time reveal Pogggg
limber pine
r/Overwatch is hosting an AMA with the EU Contenders Desk: Come ask them anything: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/9vb7pu/ama_with_the_european_contenders_desk/
pearl stratus
You know I expected something official by now on Dumbfran.
I wonder if the org was taken by complete surprise as well, so they're trying to figure out what the hells happening.
limber pine
I think that's a fair conclusion
green stump
@pearl stratus didn't they make an announcement on some media site?
limber pine
afaik neither ATL or Blizz has publicly commented
only ESPN and some esports stuff has taken Dafran's tweet as confirmation
green stump
Maybe they are trying to figure out still what to do with it
Like, maybe talk with him about it to make sure he's in the right mind
Either way, it's hard to salvage this due to his behavior of throwing games over and over again right before that
He kept saying 'play overwatch and get rich' but that seems odd....
pearl stratus
There's also other issues.
Like they gave him the $5k tip on his stream as a "signing bonus"
which he'll most likely have to pay back, etc, etc.
Depends on the contract that we have no clue about.
green stump
@pearl stratus I believe it's more than that because he's breaching the contract himself
He's not worth anything to other teams so it's not like they can sell this contact
Er contract
He's basically wasted money, publicity, marketing and not
Er more
pearl stratus
Yeah but thats all guess work, so I'm trying to keep it to the minimum.
green stump
So he'll most likely pay something to Atlanta to break the contract. He could have done something else like be used for promotion or marketing or something just to use his pre established Fame
pearl stratus
The only one I know for sure is in -most- contracts signing bonuses are returned if the player is removed/quits within [x] date.
So thats the only one I'm addressing.
green stump
@pearl stratus in common cases though, but this feels so uncommon
He basically sabatoged himself and then made himself look pitiful
He probably doesn't even understand what he did because he's so stuck in his little bubble
limber pine
Again, I'd argue he knows exactly what he's done
because his contract was approved
so I'd hope both ATL and Blizz sat him down and told him what they expected of him
green stump
@limber pine someone needs to...
I even said that he could seriously use this to his advantage and respect... But now he's just a disappointment
teal leaf
brittle bough
f in the chat for dafran
limber pine
jebaited
magic zinc
Its up now wew
karmic grotto
RIP video
limber pine
this camera/video is terrible
karmic grotto
Not sure why, but my phone has a better quality when streaming
limber pine
Nate is there da fak
karmic grotto
Paris Productions
limber pine
magic zinc
I thought it was gonna be the french flag but this is kinda ew
karmic grotto
You don't understand how they play, they let us think that's the flag, but the real flag are their players
limber pine
limber pine
i mean, it wasn't so much leaked as it was ripped from the app
vestal mortar
Mmm I am personally not a fan of the shade combination of grey blue and red they're using. The value contrast is not high enough and it is hard to read properly when you see it small in their twitter avatar
karmic grotto
C'mon, it's all about the players, not their logo 😄
warm quartz
Okay im gonna get my immaturity about the paris team out of my system
Heh they're a bunch of cucks
But i like the logo design
obtuse pasture
Does anyone know if the dafran thing is real or fake for sure?
I think he’s legit
balmy wolf
can we please just acknowledge how boring the dc logo is. Im a dc resident and im quite disappointed. It looks extremely similar to literally every single dc sports team
karmic grotto
Maybe because they're DC?
modern apex
limber pine
really? I think it's better that some of the current logos
oh you mean the DC one
yeah I agree completely
balmy wolf
inb4 the china owwc team is the new shanghai dragons roste
sullen berry
More likely you want to check out Chengdu, Hangzhou
pearl stratus
@balmy wolf Team CC is Shanghai.
balmy wolf
k cool
pearl stratus
Shanghai?
Low to mid pack at best.
Is my guess.
While OWWC showed that Contenders players can do well against OWL that was for a weekend.
Not for six months.
So while I want to believe some of these new expansion teams might do well, I think its fair to assume it will take them a stage or two just to get used to the schedule, the training, and the higher play.
limber pine
true with most expansion teams
it's "expected" that they won't be as good as already existing teams
pearl stratus
And for all intents and purposes Shanghai is a brand new team, again.
Your roster is going to be 4-5 new additions to the league.
Since I don't think Geguris spot is necessarily locked in stone.
limber pine
yeah even if Geguri is a starter, they have an all new support line and (likely) an all new DPS line-up
pearl stratus
It's confirmed new.
Diya is back up until the language barrier isn't a noticeable issue.
BlueHas mentioned it. But he did say Diyas Korean was better than he expected.
Because he's been sitting with Fearless a lot in the facility while they stream/play ranked.
Apparently Fearless got pretty close to the Chinese guys.
He wears Alterings jersey now and again on stream. Wholesome.
green stump
That's pretty cool...
warped axle
I like how we know so much about the Paris team and almost nothing about the Vancouver team
All I know is that they're partnering with Luminosity
pearl stratus
@green stump I don't think most people realized that Altering was tri-lingual and if he had more practice/immersion could have become an in game translator like Bischu/Silkthread. But doing that in game is -so- difficult.
gilded peak
Oh nice, he is back.
That means I'll be able to see how bad he'll get destroyed in competitions.
sullen berry
smh
we knew this
it was a shitstorm to admit it was an accident
worse off that he kept playing how he did for the sake of playing
limber pine
Well I’ll be damned
worn falcon
So unstable for OWL?
hidden vault
Hmm that makes the leaks for the logo true
gaunt acorn
seems like atlanta management spoke to him
mossy bone
but the mental breakdown is very much real
thats gonna be a big problem for him
at least hes gonna put in the time to adjust to pro play again
queen drift
called it
molten skiff
the man needs psychiatric help
molten skiff
and now that he's still in ATL, they should have a team psychiatrist
pearl stratus
Because he threw, viciously, on stream.
Last time was an entire contenders season.
molten skiff
in fact all teams should
pearl stratus
I'm guessing at least 8 games suspension.
Which is the same as him playing since he's a bencher.
forest raven
Dafran needs some CBT
plain nymph
if anyone is good with stream settings dm me
warped axle
@forest raven cbt?
forest raven
Cognitive behavioural therapy
warped axle
Yes
mossy bone
even when hes trolling he still dominates in ladder
i dont understand why he thinks hes bad
queen drift
@pearl stratus is this throwing new or do you mean the old throwing
you can be good on ladder and still a bad player
not saying dafran is but the two arent exclusive
mossy bone
he was really good on selfless anyway
north tendon
im glad dafran was able to listen and recollect himself
queen drift
selfless was a very different team
north tendon
still got a long way ahead though
queen drift
based around their mechanical skill and comfort picks
forest raven
In an extremely different game
queen drift
ye
mossy bone
it shows that he can play in a structured team environment tho
forest raven
Thank you 🌞
queen drift
smile
queen drift
most high level team players have to play ladder
mossy bone
he said he was gonna put less time into streaming'
queen drift
almost every team has an sr threshhold
north tendon
yeah unfortunately, if only blizz had better options
mossy bone
whos that 4.2 peak owl player
mossy bone
4.2 is pretty low for someone in owl
queen drift
it sucks for the players because they also cant 3+stack iirc
at least in early owl, idk if that was changed
north tendon
maybe they themselves think its unfair to do more than 3 lol
mossy bone
i thought fucking fuel stacked a lot
north tendon
the carpe stack is already OP enough
queen drift
fuel used to stack a lot, i havent seen any more than3 recently
queen drift
isnt the carpe stack just Carpe + Jjonak + random korean player
queen drift
ye thats what i mean, its been hotba too
mossy bone
thats still fucking op
"just one of the best widows, zens, and dva in the world"
its nothing to worry about
queen drift
hahaha
north tendon
ah
pearl stratus
Most likely probably would have cost him a shit ton of money.
sullen berry
This is a CogPhamp
*PhogCamp
now I'll have to get weibo to follow all these chinese teams
as it wasn't released earlier through twitter
plucky rune
those colours
plucky rune
gonna look great on pharah for that almost default look baby
roster confirmed for charge?
gaunt acorn
@plucky rune boston pharah is already default look
gaunt acorn
warped axle
Branding themselves at GZ is really smart
Because no one knows how to pronounce Guangzhou
urban galleon
warped axle
Also the GZ logo reminds me of the Tempo Storm logo
limpid estuary
plucky rune
it's like the glads skin, but it's blue
sullen berry
it's a dark bubblegum blue
balmy wolf
lol is dafran bi polar
visual glen
dafran should be dropped if he pulls this sort of shit again
even more unstable than xQc like wtf
lasted less than 2 weeks before meltdown
brittle bough
@balmy wolf he is
upper niche
Those GZC colors look good.
green stump
@limber pine Got a VOD of Hayes (Coach for UK and OWL Fusion) reviewing UK vs SK if you want it
queen drift
Dafran will probably be better in NA with Sephy
limber pine
you can dm it to me
guys i just realized
there's a lightning bolt in between the letters
green stump
go go power rangers?
queen drift
I thought that was the point
queen drift
Also I was close, I called Guangzhou Crash with blue theme 
ruby pendant
wasn't paying attention to the bolt either
worn falcon
So now is Gatorade Ghuanzou
gaunt acorn
i really like the guangzhou colours
sullen berry
you have it pretty good dray
I like your pfp doesn't have to change so much to show your support
sullen berry
a yeti?
gaunt acorn
@sullen berry a yeti.
what convinced them to go with a yeti is beyond me, but..
not too excited for that one
ruby pendant
only 3 months to Season 2!
rough meadow
DAFRAN BACK
karmic grotto
Haha
Told ya
He wouldn't quit
No way he would. Just was not stable
He apologized, so it's alright
:)
mint turtle
Good, I didn't think it was a jebait but I did think he was stressed. He really needs to do something/ get some help though
limber pine
What’s the over/under that something else happens before preseason?
pearl stratus
@limber pine My guess is on an 8 game suspension for the throwing and stupidity.
Wanna take the over or under?
sullen berry
woah woah
8 game suspension is more than a stage, but enough to be subbed in for like the stage playoff finals
river birch
Does anybody know of any watch parties being held?
Or do people wait on that until the finals
sullen berry
too early to call tbh
there are online viewing parties from the respective team discord servers
river birch
Alright I just remember seeing those being held in my area like last year or so
sullen berry
I've been to both LA discords, Dallas, Outlaws, Fusion, Spitfire, Boston, Mayhem and Shanghai
these help considering I don't have the money to travel to these main events/viewing parties
they've been kinda sporadic outside of grand finals from season 1
clear crane
Nyxl viewing party isn’t bad
river birch
I'll look up the link for boston's discord
clear crane
It’s at this gaming cafe in Chinatown Nyc lol
river birch
Im thinking about a boston one
sullen berry
just type in "bostonup" when you want to add a new discord server
boston's watch parties should have a good crowd there
pearl stratus
There's like a few bars that do OWL games too on a few nights.
river birch
Nice
pearl stratus
You can google it on the subreddit.
sullen berry
I just typed guessed it before i searched reddit lol
pearl stratus
One did OW themed food and drinks and shit last year.
gusty flax
a nice torb burger
river birch
Do you remember the name of this place in boston?
pearl stratus
Nah I only went once or twice.
fast basin
Harry potter's scar is in between the logo
pearl stratus
I'd go under 10, since I'm still thinking 8.
pearl stratus
Okay. I wasn't expecting some of the first shade to come from Shanghai.
So on a random tangent if someone is a huge fan of Paris
Would you call it cock worship?
And will I get banned for it.
red dust
Will closer carry the fuel?
green stump
@pearl stratus holy crap that's some good trash talk
Waiting for one of them to make a 0/40 comeback
pearl stratus
Too easy.
If you resort to that you've already lost.
I need Spriteguy to find out if I'll get banned for calling Paris fans cockworshippers.
limber pine
probably
green stump
Day by day, I'm starting to enjoy surefours streams as a personality...
pearl stratus
I find the thought of me getting banned for an accurate description appalling!
upper niche
What's wrong with being a cockworshipper?
Is that an insult I don't understand?
fast basin
So
paper crag
btw wasn't Paris rumored to be after an all France roster?
whatever happened to that?
is it still likely that they're pursuing that or not anymore?
verbal roost
Henworshippers would be rude as well maybe?
mossy bone
if that were so then london would be english players only
paper crag
how would Paris team pursuing an all French roster relate in any way to London pursuing it
every team can do whatever they want to do, it's just that I think I heard somewhere that Paris was trying to make an all French roster
torpid charm
They were mainly going for a French speaking or all European roster, which they have now
Not necessary all French players, which I’m sure they would’ve loved.
clear crane
An all French team wud be complete crap lol
Given with what Paris were able to work with
gaunt acorn
yes
torpid charm
@clear crane very true, it was unrealistic but you can always dream. What they have rn is pretty alright though
clear crane
yea
they dont need akm
but unkoe and poko are pretty much must haves if u want an all french team
already a shocker they got soon. makes me sad as a valiant fan 😭
jagged crater
torpid charm
gaunt acorn
am i crazy
no, i'm not
the la valiant totally changed their shade of green, right
previously it was this
now all their twitter branding uses the darker green
do you think they petitioned the league to change it officially (including in-game skins?) like we heard rumours of (e.g. with florida)
perhaps to distinguish themselves from.. vancouver?
who are also using green as their primary colour.. or so we're led to believe
sullen berry
You bet this is slightly annoying
As with spitfire orange to spitfire blue
That was a minor tweak in comparison to this
gaunt acorn
@sullen berry what did spitfire change
sullen berry
Between stage 2 & 3?
gaunt acorn
what, though
their colours have remained the same, no?
this looks like valiant have changed/are changing their green entirely
gaunt acorn
that's just changing their preferred background though
the colours remained the same
every team has like 4 variants of their logo
switching the colours around
valiant are now using a whole new shade of green which is different
sullen berry
Valiant is definitely several shades darker
sullen berry
Maybe we got this instead of a gladiators makeover?
gaunt acorn
since it would affect skins, etc
yeah perhaps the leaks got the la teams confused
and it was actually valiant petitioning the league along with florida
gaunt acorn
their discord still uses the old green
yup
clearly quite different from their new green
i wouldn't mind the change
i think the new green looks a lot better
sullen berry
Me neither
I'm indifferent if it doesn't clash more with the Toronto green
Because from memory
It does with the older valiant green
sullen berry
Hax
gaunt acorn
VANCOUVER GREEN
sullen berry
Good use of your personal server
gaunt acorn
i swear you do it on purpose now
sullen berry
I don't
sullen berry
This is the guy whose trying hard not to confuse Guangzhou Spark with Hangzhou charge 
That one was a giveaway
gaunt acorn
sullen berry
We're going to run out of space for the really important emotes
sullen berry
They keep this server relevant when a new hero comes along with a good emoji
gaunt acorn
we need a twitch emote for wrecking ball, ashe
sullen berry
They'll do something about it on Twitch
sullen berry
It's not like they forgot to turn on a few things at the start of a new stage /s
sullen berry
Love it
Don't know why it's an obsession to call them cock worshippers this early
In this server specifically 
sullen berry
Not enough blue 
:HangzhouSpark: :guangzhouCharge: :vancouvertitan:
Would you consider prefixing the team emojis with OWL-?
sullen berry
Cool
Just make it second in stage playoffs, mayhem
Maybe you will earn the respect of the league back eventually
gaunt acorn
(they won't)
sullen berry
How early is too early for me: not a chance
If this means something like 6am PDT
Err
More power to you with the current OWL Panel, Blizz. I can marathon a weekend to watch some inaugural matchups of the new team
So long as there are new additions to the panel of casters and analysts handling the early morning games
warped axle
gaunt acorn
thanks kuni very cool
warped axle
:monkaS:
torpid charm
Season 2 let’s goooooo
Dray has a discord server??? Wowee. Also I peeped that Val shade change recently, I feel like their green should’ve initially been that dark
torpid charm
LMAO I wanna join
gaunt acorn
and i agree the green reads better
the yellow didn't work that well with the lighter green imo
i kind of hope they change their in-game skins
to reflect the new green
torpid charm
Idk I feel like they’re in game skins already look that dark to me??? Like it should’ve been that dark all along
I’m now binging Val vids because I’m being starved of content but thank goodness I get to see the team at the end of the month
forest raven
CORN FARMERS 
torpid charm
BRUH WHAT were the skins always that light???? I’m tripping
I swear they were dark already
gaunt acorn
yeah they were lol
gaunt acorn
quick shitty edit but
this is what they might look like in-game with the new green
i like it much better
torpid charm
That’s like an emerald green, I fuck with it
upper niche
I didn't buy an LAV tee last year because the images on the website made it look brown
hidden vault
Nahh light green is better
hidden vault
for the logo probably
but not the in game skins
the new change in colour kinda looks like a different team
gaunt acorn
i don't see them changing their official branding but only rolling it out partially (i.e. exclusively their logo)
i'll bet they petitioned the league to have their colours changed and it will be reflected in the skins, if approved
florida and boston petitioned the league for colour changes too i believe
hidden vault
the logo should reflect the same colour scheme as their skins
gaunt acorn
yes
hidden vault
but changing it changes their identity, kinda would cause alittle confusion
gaunt acorn
not really
hidden vault
imagining london changing to Dep red or something
gaunt acorn
it's just a different shade of green and they want to change it
hidden vault
totally bizzare
gaunt acorn
well florida wants to change to pink/blue so
hidden vault
yeah but the impact is still there
gaunt acorn
it's better to change it now
hidden vault
less of course
gaunt acorn
rather than 3 seasons down the line
hidden vault
of course
gaunt acorn
branding is still relatively new
if they think it looks better, they should do it
rather than stick with something they're unhappy with
personally i support it
i like the new green
hidden vault
I could understand Florida cause they had the McDonalds stigma
gaunt acorn
and i think florida becoming pink/blue would be cool too
not sure what boston will do but their colours suck currently
hidden vault
would also be an issue if another new team comes along and uses a similar colour scheme
unless they would block out the old colour skin
would be kinda a waste
too many blue teams unless boston does something to stick out or differentiate their blue
gaunt acorn
well vancouver is using this, presumably
that'll be the only other green team
so perhaps valiant changed their green preemptively
hidden vault
there's also houston with black and bright green
sweet scaffold
So, basically it's the Vancouver Canucks colour scheme?
That's disappointing, but oh well.
gaunt acorn
yes
hidden vault
it would be the best if non of the teams changes their colours after reveal
but I hope to see more skin customisation, instead of just colour changes
torpid charm
gaunt acorn
@torpid charm wow the skins are pretty similar to philly
it's like philly and seoul had a baby
gaunt acorn
torpid charm
So it’s whatever yellow concoction, black, & champagne? Interesting
Little panda on Genji’s chest is cute
queen drift
damn i kinda like that
gaunt acorn
looks like it was an accident
tweet deleted
and they removed their twitter banner + pfp
lol
balmy wolf
Deleted :omegalul:
upper niche
They'll announce it tomorrow I'm sure. Saturday in the US, get it out there before its too widely leaked.
queen drift
"symbol of peace, good luck, perseverance, determination . . . . . lets go hunting"
warped axle
samsung morning stars look great
balmy wolf
didn't xqc say there wouldnt be another world cup
karmic grotto
Not another for him, that's sure
You never know what talents will rise for Canada
There are many unknown players with latent talent
pearl stratus
Oh interesting. Doom nerfs, Bastion and McCree buffs from Surefours stream.
Hadn't really listened to his stream with the Dev.
green stump
@pearl stratus Doomfist players under master are panic mode, but the mccree buff is going to make him very...VERY strong
verbal roost
What mccree buff?
green stump
10 extra damage per bullet in his fan the hammer @verbal roost
green stump
he will be very good now vs tanks with a zen
green stump
although people are upset that they are buffing a 'non skill' ability
sullen berry
supercharger on buffs and nerfs will magnify or mitigate damage
green stump
but most people are saying doom nerf will make goats even more powerful, which is not the case
mainly cause they are upset they are losing their free ride with doom
sullen berry
stylistically, doomfist is fun to watch
reducing his control during rising uppercut will be a slight buffer so he can't escape
and the seismic slam damage reduction is a big "what if it does absolutely nothing if it's still used for set up and escape"
green stump
it will make him worth killing at least, as his set up will require a lot more map knowledge, while his cooldowns are still rather low, he will be more predictable with his movements
which is probably his biggest nerf as he loses that unpredictable advance he would normally have
karmic grotto
Makes him more skillful
pearl stratus
The McCree buff is a bit too much, honestly. I think they'll tone it down.
5 not 10.
Good or bad?
green stump
the issue is more that fth will now be its own thing compared to just headshotting with him, the problem is less the damage increase and more how well it works with dmg boost and discord
Pine will be very happy though lol
rare sonnet
FTH should deal more damage on the first few bullets and then scale down
Like 70-65-60-55-50-45
Doesn’t it do 55x6 rn?
Then maybe it’ll be better to use when just emptying your clip and not spamming all the time
gaunt acorn
boy i wonder who dallas fuel are revealing as their newest player
oak oxide
hexed siren
T
balmy wolf
theres so many players with 3 letter names
hidden vault
Ckm
I don't really count Ado and Ark cause it's read as a word
Nus can be read as nus or N-U-S
Kyb as a word too
paper crag
eqo should be read as echo
and form a team with meko poko and neko
mano for honorable mention
and maybe neptuno?
or ado
gaunt acorn
it's pronounced E-Q-O
paper crag
yes, i was just joking
gaunt acorn
paper crag
😃
hidden vault
paper crag
who would beko ceko feko deko be?
hidden vault
New and up coming koreans
paper crag
are they real players?
hidden vault
Lmao hahaha
hidden vault
XD
gaunt acorn
torpid charm
idle beacon
@paper crag marc ecko is a sponsor of what?
paper crag
of a hypothetical team comprised of meko, neko, poko, eqo (read as eko), and ado/mano/neptuno
named the geckos
gaunt acorn
@dusk hinge vancouver titans was rumoured/leaked a few days ago
dc was known to be justice since the 7/8 branding leak like a week ago
dusk hinge
Thanks
karmic grotto
Are there players that are streaming that could be OWL level?
velvet basin
xQc my guy
mint turtle
He's a good widow/genji too, but yh very rarely plays them
queen drift
a support players widow/genji isnt relevant
mint turtle
Debatable, especially since ana and widow are pretty similar skillsets
queen drift
Its not debatable at all.. You're talking about OWL level
in owl he wouldnt play genji or widow
he'd play support
so his genji and widow are irrelevant
its like saying Saebyeolbe has a good Zen
idk if he does or not its an example
but hes never going to play zen in owl
mint turtle
If we're talking support, he's also a good Moira too
queen drift
so its irrelevant
orchid hawk
Why is korea so good?
karmic grotto
Culture
sullen berry
Culture is the big one, Community and Sponsorship is also more faithful to esports and pro gaming over multiple generations
queen drift
esports are actually treated like serious jobs and esports players are treated like celebrities for the most part
work goes hand in hand with life in korea. good job? good life
so most have no problem grinding and grinding to be the best at what they dpo
balmy wolf
People in the western world are incredibly small minded when it comes to eSports
I have a hard time convincing my family that Racing is considered a sport, I can’t imagine how they would feel about eSports
pearl stratus
@balmy wolf As the money increases so will the legitimacy for the most part in the western world. They're tied together quite tightly.
So when you get more Sinatraas/Decays making 150-300k/yr for it it starts looking like less of a waste.
It's why I also think the collegiate league should be more important than contender.
Because its easier to embrace things when you have a fall back.
If Parents knew their kid went to school for e-sports but had a fall back degree?
So much easier to support that.
verbal roost
Tespa !
rare sonnet
I wonder why both Canadian teams decided to go full KR
Paris knew that the EU fan base was basically untapped because London fucked up so bad
Now they’ve got a tonne of fans
Would have been cool to see a Canadian team buy out Surefour like Soon to Paris
paper crag
did soon get bought out of LAV?
rare sonnet
Yeah
paper crag
huh
paper crag
i just like watching the games, not as much who goes where etc
until the actual season starts
is paris roster fully revealed?
rare sonnet
Yeah
Unfortunately there are not as many transfers in OWL
I like the transfer window more than the actual games in football
torpid charm
warped axle
polar topaz
warped axle
Trill
upper niche
Finland-based, you say?
Reinforce confirmed.
native glen
haughty sphinx
Is the Chendzu hunters a real team
gaunt acorn
yes
verbal roost
Chengdu looking sharp 😄
upper niche
I can see the golden arches sponsorship now.
upper niche
Yellow/Red/White?
gaunt acorn
are we talking about chengdu?
i don't know what you're referring to
their colours are gold/taupe/black
upper niche
I think we need an xkcd colour chart to decide this one.
gaunt acorn
where are you seeing red dude
upper niche
Genji's leg highlights.
gaunt acorn
that's not red
upper niche
Maybe up close it is. But small, in amongst the other shit? Red.
gaunt acorn
definitely not
gaunt acorn
it's light brown (#ad8150)
upper niche
Too many design people fail to understand how putting a colour next to another colour changes its appearance, espeically when used in small quantities 😃
See, light brown = red.
Just like the fucking overwatch group colour is Green, which looks identical to the enemy team Red, ie, "shoot at anything that moves" when you're playing in a 6-stack.
gaunt acorn
what type of colour blindness do you have
upper niche
Deuteranomaly.
gaunt acorn
ok yeah
sullen berry
@gaunt acorn delayed hype I am pretty stoked despite the potential clash
gaunt acorn
to someone without colour blindness, their skin doesn't look red.. at all -- everything is yellow-hued including the light brown
but if it does for you, i hope it at least looks cool
@sullen berry which clash
upper niche
I mean yeah, it reminds me of chicken nuggets, and that's cool, I suppose...
sullen berry
@upper niche red leg redemption, shanghai season 2
upper niche
Wait I need to know why @sullen berry Doens't like being @'d.
sullen berry
@upper niche
memes
nothing original here
gaunt acorn
their branding looks good, but i don't think the team will be that good
i think they will be the weakest of the 4 chinese teams, honestly
sullen berry
you guys in this channel are fine, in case I have to leave in the middle of a decent topic around here @upper niche
chengdu's rumored roster was one of the first chinese teams leaked, right?
upper niche
It's gonna be a bit of a disaster for OWL if the bottom four teams are the four Chinese teams.
sullen berry
because silkthread had kept himself under NDA for quite some time since end of season
upper niche
Especially if they're below Florida. Oh, and did you hear SFS beat LAV in that show game?
gaunt acorn
Tanks
Tianbin "Lateyoung" Ma
Adam "Beasthalo" Denton
Menghan "vanessa" Ding
Wenjie "Elsa" Luo
DPS
Tzu-Heng "Baconjack" Lo
Ted "silkthread" Wang
Hu "Jinmu" Yi
Zhihao "YangX1aoLg" Zhang
Supports
Xianyao "Yveltal" Li
Chunting "Kyo" Kong
Li "Garry" Guan
sullen berry
why did their cali cup show games feel so staggered, was that San Fran hosting yesterday and LA hosting a month ago?
upper niche
I dunno, I didn't see it, I just saw Custa's tweet saying they lost and I was like "whaaaaaaa?"
sullen berry
can't wait to see shock not whimper out next season
else the whole team is going to go full nomy
balmy wolf
Any other Chengdu Pandaren fans?
sullen berry
Any Po fans in Chengdu?
sullen berry
lowkey I still hope YangX1aoLong gets a soft rename to yangxiaolong
take the Chengdu number 1 for his jersey
and also not be as washed out like talespin for envy
gaunt acorn
torpid charm
I love it
sullen berry
TIL all the competitive resources I need to ride the Pacific wave of social media
weibo, twitter, esports ovserver, dot esports or invenglobal
agilities has a weibo account too
gaunt acorn
now you just need to actually get good at the game
torpid charm
gaunt acorn
[Vancouver] have said that they’re about 3 weeks away from announcing the team. Their hockey game on Dec 6 is also called Gamer Night so you can do the math there.
They have also bought an 11 million dollar house for the team and are looking to pick up a contenders team atm.
Source: was at an event with senior leadership from Aquilini
