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which side do u think enjoys to jebait plat chat
both
^

we're talking about mykl and dafran cmon
dafran just setting it up so if he gets rejected/suspended he can play it off.
China vs. Finland is going to be good.
mykl doesn't seem to want to blow his cred jebaiting anymore
stupidity leading to accidental jebaits is still a jebait
I'm pretty sure its because in the last week mykL went from like "Leaks" to everyone telling him to fuck himself with a cactus again.
Hard downward trend since the Agilities thing.
I don't foresee Kate's thing going anywhere.
Because it's been refuted by 3-4 parties now.
And mykL's biggest proof is LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED LALALAALLALALA
i think he got some stuff right but now just says everything he hears
bc lEaK GoD McNeCkAsS
really not that helpful
I think he has a punchable face, and not enough people take advantage of that fact.
I want to believe his sources more often
when I listen to something from him on stream
pretty sure realleakboy is his alt
it's nothing
The problem is he's basically the OWL equivalent of Trumps twitter
no that's xqc
Just verbal diarrhea.

i agree but why dyou think so dray
xQc doesn't post enough for that to work.
just seemed like a way for him to avoid the stigma he carried and build rep on the merit of his leaks alone
it worked so he decided to try leaking on his main too
to mixed results
could just as easily not be him too, though
it would make sense i think its just too much effort for him
when he was doing his daily owl videos n shit he had a decent audience
not really respected for leaks buuuttt
moderately big
tru
i wish slasher would start reporting again
big same đŚ
dafran replace sinantra and play for usa
Dafran on Team USA... Hmm
Might as well
At this point
London spitfire with all korean members lul
Pyongyang spitfire
nice bait
HMMM
Big announcement today 4:15pm EDT Iâll be streaming 15 minutes prior to it đ
https://t.co/uObUQQdOgw
If this is Elk to
, it would confirm a leak from mykL last week.
đ
well
it's strange how people still dont believe him
every one of his leaks from sources has been proven so far
When it's just the rumor, it's been fine
news rumor
The Kate stuff are still unknown
And the Agilities stuff is...whatever
Agilities being benched and not being able to talk to other teams is a lot different than adding KSF to the rotation and LAV allowing him to talk to other teams
^^
his rumours are fine
when hes putting everything on something, giving details and calling specific people out its bneen bad
I love Elk
rip Last chance
Losers, im an OWL player
real top bait
But if it is fusion then Rip Neptuno?
depends
Neptuno played Mercy like 3/4 of the time, but I wonder if Elk is more well-rounded
idk. either way they need a Lucio player now that Joe is coaching
Theyâll run Neptuno on mercy whenever they need a mercy imo
Useless to keep a support for one role like that. Waste of money.
I mean doesnât he play like everything
rip Neptuno, the most hype mercy đŚ
Not super well, he was pulled in for Mercy.
guys, do you think OWL skins next time should have players's name?
i think they would make more money out of it
Not just that - the individual actual cost.
Because do you name it around the player and rotate it when that player/leaves/trades?
How often do you update it?
Even though its quick, its still man hours.
well think about mayhem
they are going to rebrand their colors
i doubt they will take away mccdonalds
they just make new skins each season
That's just changing hex values though.
Adjusting everytime the Mayhem drops a swedish person would be tedious.
Pretend like
Logix got one last year what would they do with the skin
Since heâs not there anymore
Also they're just establishing the rules for rebranding.
Don't expect that to happen for like.
6-10 months.
According to Unikrn's sources, that request has been denied for season two, with a process being put into place for future seasons. btw.
I also have brigitte mayhem LUL
So saying Florida is rebranding is kind of a lie đ
I have a LOT of Dallas skins
Brigitte mayhem skin is meant to be
rip
And got the brig one when she came out for the lulz
Rebranding isn't a simple process, really.
well, i still like the mcdonalds
And it turns out that they had a really good brig
but the new swag is the Atlanta

Isnât Dafran one of the best trackers?
he is THE best
Yes
THE best
But the retard is banned so often he makes xQc look plain adult half the time.
I want to see what the skins for the expansion teams are
Also like Sprite or Dray was saying earlier, Dafrans going to get banned in S2 a few times anyway if he actually makes it.
and roster
True.
so like XL?
Isn't Shock tied with Houston now since they both have a korean?
i think white is not possible cause they leave those for away skins
white as a secondary is an option
I mean a black skin
I thought shock had more then one
With white and gray accents
They have 3
atlanta is very likely going black and red
Atlanta my fav team now LoL
what are you going to do after week 4 when he's dropped for multiple suspensions
The confuse
After being congratulated on the move by a viewer in Twitch chat during a recent stream, Dafran replied âyou guys really think I was gonna fucking join Overwatch League? You guys really fucking thing that? You fucking dumbasses.â
Dafran went on to state "that's all I'm gonna say", although he did add a shout-out to mykL, saying "you have been a great piece of the puzzle, thank you mykL. My little pawn."
what even is this offseason lol
Alright because this same writer literally posted a story an hour before about how he was approved and it made it even more confusing ahah
Idk who this writer is or see the stream so i was just curious if anyone knew anything different
Dafran getting exposed
he's playing Doomfist now all of the sudden cause "he's fun"
yeah right
lol no
Elk for Fusion itâs official
hype
I love Gritty
What is it supposed to be? A muppet?
the less you think about it the better
Heâs a friend thatâs what he is
đ°
Elk said on stream that he was a Two-Way player
so he'll play in the next season of contenders before OWL starts up
Fusion only have two supports after they released Joe and Dayfly, so regardless they still need a backup
and if Elk's only a Two-Way player, they'll call him up when the others need a break
I really don't think it'll affect neptuno too much
nope
yeah, cuz boom plays zen and moira
with a little bit of Mercy mixed in
and apparently Ana for team UK
Lmfao waaaait a minute
Ive been an Islanders fan for 25 years and i dont ever remember seeing that thing when they played the Flyers
LOL thats an awesome mascot
Oh hes new lmfao
yeah you havent' seen him because he hasn't been at games yet lol
Hey guys - I had posted a survey here not too long ago (I think I posted here at least) - here are the results of the "Favorite OWL Player by Hero" https://imgur.com/a/dljbxHf
30 more minutes until shock annoucement
J LUL K E
New announcement from sf coming bois
#RascalReturns to the @OverwatchLeague in Season 2!
Please welcome @Rascal to the San Francisco Shock. https://t.co/aspzfafTpu
I have a video of a shootmania tournememt finale with unkoe, soon and akm
In 2014
IMPORTANT: Stream starts at 0:50 I had to remove the sound shortly from 3:40 until 5:03 because of the copyright ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Akm unkoe and soon before they were overwatch pros
Scroll up
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G U R I
#RascalReturns to the @OverwatchLeague in Season 2!
Please welcome @Rascal to the San Francisco Shock. https://t.co/aspzfafTpu
Just in case
So it doesnt get lost
LMAO deadass
I am
How
Very true
Architect > Rascal
But they could just interchange between the two with Sinatraa
I voted for myself
can you stop spamming it one by one
Cuz i believe in myself
CKM blade > AKM blade
just not by much
@fossil drift
after the world cup
you should go do one
i would vote for the boi Patiphan
for sure
I think I will.
Definitely need to make sure I donât let people write in their own answers though. For my own sake...
Youâre not the only one shudder

Easier to sift those out than organize all the Jakes, jjonaks, and ryujehong
Man, no love for Fate
i'm surprised Ryujehong scored so low on Zen
Jjonak is pretty obvious, but still
and peple forgot to add the Ryujekong
it's funny Jake won the torb vote
just for that minute on attack torb in numbani
i remember that 
my boi Dafran is going to take that vote on season 2
he's the torb master
@fossil drift
Jayne is not OWL yet
he will be on season 2

Yeah
I messed that up. Working on a fix to replace that one
I got so involved in removing non OWL people that Jayne somehow slipped my mind
And by me. I mean those helping me. Then I didnât double check the work on that one
Absolutely
Hence the necessity of a drop down box. Wouldâve made it a lot easier to move.
More work upfront. A lot less work in the end
Might have encouraged everyone to leave an answer for each hero too?
Yeah. Other than the muma memes and all star weekend
Surefour being the only one to really have real Symm time
Not all star weekend
He played Symm in regular season.
Set turrets next to a junk trap. Got a kill and immediate switch?
I donât even remember
i don't even remember that
World cup so far has gotten playtime from everybody tho
Found t
Not even a kill and he was in attack
U late bro
how am I late? it's only 30 minutes
click and you will see
it's about the Dafran jebaits
I already posted it here
you only posted the Rascal tweet
bruh, i don't even really care about Rascal
i'm in for the big fish Dafran
specially since i was having a convo early today here about fake news talking about Dafran with @pearl token
I hope we get to see Rascal's Brush
Yeah im learning to just ignore everything until official announcements happen. Ive followed other sports off seasons most of my life and this league is just handled in such a bizarre way so far
But its an internet community so im not all that surprised
I got a good laugh out of reading the Shanghai roster changes.
In: ??? Out: nearly everyone.
You know how we sometimes joke about how in some countries if you're a spring star (or referee) and your team loses you just 'disappear'? It feels like that :)
49ers 137.5 million dollar qb tore his ACL;(
Yeaaaah its pretty amazing lol
And thats american football. Baseball is the most absurd of the four major us sports
Clayton Kershaw of the dodgers makes 34 million a year
215 mil contract
Who is the highest payed in OWL?
I don't think they release any of that info besides minimum paid is 50k
@upper niche It's pretty heavily hinted at, pretty near confirmed, that Shanghai is pulling in all the remaining members of Kongdoo Panthera.
And they would not add more chinese players for diya?
From my understanding Diya pretty much understood he'd be a sub only until language barriers were fine, if rumors are right.
Diya a chinese having language barrier in a chinese team đ¤
wow i didnt realize that till now
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that girl at 0:41 was like hell naw Im out
1:19 you know he got her number at the end
And he threw his friend under the bus lul
Lol, girl at 1:19 is clutching her phone like she's just waiting to try get a request in for a photo/selfie.
Things are starting to fill in.
just a little bit
I really want some new team branding soon though
The LGD v. Runaway match is so good.
Gaga getting a 3k on Hamster 20 seconds into Hanamura will forever be a highlight
Best part - Psuedo redemption arc for MG.
Who is now on LGD and doing really well.
I think viewers get too caught up on players that were "bad"
I think a lot of old SHD is very good, but "0-40 lol" is the prevalent opinion.
I don't think they were all great at their roles.
MG is basically chinese Mickie.
He's not a great D'va.
But he did other things -very- well.
Like Brig/Hog, etc.
my main problems were altering and frefeel
MG is bad at Dva
everyone else was kind of alright i guess
Not at other off tanks
except ado and sky
i liked sky
Communication issues made him legitimately worse than Freefeel stats wise.
He just wasn't comfortable.
Sky was still better than Freefeed
Stats wise he actually wasn't most of the time.
Because he a.) never played because of the language barrier, b.) played bad because of the language barrier.
If you look at OWWC he's in a much more comfortable position, so he doesn't look like garbage.
Who thought it would be a good idea to put 3 Chinese bois with 3 Koreans
At the time a lot of the really good, visually apparently, chinese talent was under 18.
Like Eileen is a nutty as shit dps.
But he was underage.
Leave was still retired, MY had 3 people under 18 still.
Beyond that if you look at Chinese contenders you had LFZ at the time.
Which is a Korean team.
So it was better to shop Korean.
mg is in Big Time Ragel Gaming not LGD gaming
He's playing with them for this match against Runaway.
You can check the LGD roster.
They have MG and Gaga atm
hmm? is this the updated one?
No clue. I posted the Summer tournament ones since thats the match I was watching and care about.
ok I saw your link
but thanks
undead not playing for LinGan e-Sports anymore?
lul
He changed his name so you might have to find the new one
nope he isn't I checked
Do we know all the teams for upcoming OWL season?
Poor Rascal.
Hopefully the Shock can figure out whats making everyone grumpy and he can find a solid spot.
He has the same hero pool that Architect has
It's actually noticeably larger, and has the Sombra they're missing without Danteh.
Widow?
Be traded off to the X6 group thats looking to get him back
I wonder if Babybay even stays
I think so because he probably would have wanted to be a free agent for the new teams
Baby bay probably will stay, isnât he their best hitscan
^
ehh
I'm pretty sure Architect is their best everything
I don't see a lot of playtime for babybay between Architect, Rascal, and Sinatraa
It's a shame Soldier wasn't more meta
outside of a few maps
He could be after his changes
yeah
The problem is the other stuff Babybay might have to play on the same map
Especially because Architect's Widow is better than his
fuelfuelfuelfuel
His changes, overall, don't impact pros.
For Soldier, that is.
It'll up consistency a little bit, but its more us blind ladder losers the changes impact.
If ML7 learnt how to play the other supps at the level he plays Ana, I would see no reason for teams not picking him up
His stream looks like Chips 1.0
Isnât he decent at zen?
Idk
He'd need to do contenders first.
People tend to forget ladder barely matters - Jjonak was an exception not the rule.
i think endo's point is that, even if you include those, the large majority are still contenders -> OWL
Note and DK still had a lot of experience with TO and Tempo respectively
Eqo is probably the best comparision, but he also played in OWWC
kazper wasnt a no name
he was on a few teams beforehand
didnt see spriteguys reply rip
They hold tryouts for teams just get to top500 and wait for an invite
bry needs to get in
SpriteGuy, As a Dutch citizen, this guy proved himself in this worldcup. Although Netherlands didn't had any OWL players, they still played well
patiphan in 3 years
he also has plenty of Contenders experience with OaH, 6nakes, and TO
Hey guys I'm getting back into OWL because I'm finally getting a home team but I'm interested in seeing what the general sentiment is towards DC and the rumors surrounding them
How much do you believe mykL more or less
Given that Kate denied the rumor and anybody on LNL that's commented on it also denied it, I still put it firmly as a rumor
Scarce out dated, DramaAlert over rated, long have we awaited, kingmykl activated
mykL's record for news has been quite good; his record for news + reasoning has been less than stellar
So it looks like Ex Shanghai Dragons DPS Gi-Hyeon âAdoâ Chon is still training and playing alongside the Seoul Dynasty players at their team facility. As he appears in the back ground of Fissures stream.
Expect Seoul to announce that theyâve signed Ado early in the ...
No surprises here
Good for him
Good Fleta back-up
Is Ado capable of playing Widow too?
Pretty sure he has in OWL
I only remember him on Tracer and Gengu
Jake and ZP are doing an AMA on r/Overwatch! Answers begin at 2 PM EST: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/9jevrg/zp_jake_ama/
I have no questions
Mayhem top 3 this year dont @ me
Dat feel when you get a reddit notif after posting a question and it was of a trending post

I doubt Ado will be a Fleta backup, most likely a Munchkin replacement.
Munchkin didn't grow enough as a DPS in S1, imo.
^
Jake during the ama: "I really like playing DF." Meta hint.
Also: Hardest part about casting for me is finding the most important stuff to say... I generally have too much to say so I end up talking too fast or failing to highlight the key plays that are most important. HE'S SELF AWARE BOYS.
Honestly the Seoul DPS were the best part of their squad
Even Wekeed and Munchkin aren't bad
I wasn't inferring he was bad, but he had the least growth of the DPS in the OWL in my opinion.
So you put overwhelming pressure on Fleta and you could control the field.
Fleta was overrated past stage 2 imo
Fleta was shut down past stage 2, pretty hard. With no real tank line to build him space he looked like a Mayhem DPs.
is that fleta's fault or tank's fault
It's the teams fault - look at the changes that Fissure brought into LAG for their DPS with the space he created for them.
When you have a tank line that can't drive forward and properly build space you have issues with your DPS doing anything, especially with something like Widow.
jake and zp are quite the formidable combo
jake is doing insanely well for being relatively new to casting
He made a decent point in his AMA - If you're a shot caller for your team, and have a history of review transitioning to casting isn't hard.
You basically do what you'd normally do, but you get to cheat by having the full view all the time.
think he's the only one in OW pro level to show this so far
but CSGO, you see a lot of analysts were former in-game leaders, so yes that point def applies
I think we'll see more eventually.
I mean with all star weekend youâve seen plenty of players caster
Not quite the same though, that was more meant to be as goofy as the event.
Very different from casting OWWC, etc.
Any1 got any tips a ow tourney? Itâs gonna my 1st doing e sports in general @here
Are you signed up or looking for one
Play better than the other team 4head
@long belfry Iâve signed up 4 1. Tryouts r nxt wk
Yikes
Good luck
I know a tournament you can join as a free agent and try to get a team
Ado is hella good though
Seoul got fissure and his tank is preety good
@tepid raft whats ur sr avg
best esports player?

@glacial bear bastion at the mo; trying to expand 2 sombra
Wrong shade of blue
Who else is ready for the drama this afternoon with the new Shock video?
what new shock video?
Rascal is talking about his time on Spitfire/Dallas Fuel.
His voice... his story... @Rascal breaks the silence.
#RascalReturns Tomorrow at 2p PT https://t.co/9XblaD9ehm
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Wouldn't be to me, Hastr0 is a shit bag.
Translators, etc, aren't something Kyky would have any control over.
I wonder why Effect couldnt help by translating a little bit
Effect doesn't have great english either.
And KyKy could have asked for one
And I think Effect was trying to not stab the old Envy players in the throat for being trash.
I mean you can ask for anything you want.
It's up to your GM to get it for you.
And Kyky can't just say anything about Hastr0.
He wants to have a job.
You throw your GM under the bus, you don't work again in most situations
Best english non english player is mickie
ark is good too with english maybe not his accent with it
I mean people always go asian, but forget you have Eqo, Neptuno, etc who are all, by this standard, non-english.
what's kyky getting into this time
Yeah, but its not their native language.
Yeah,
So its the same as Korean players.
I dont even know any korean players who do speak english like mickie/ark anyone is trying
Janus speaks very well too
no i meant overwatch league players in general
ok
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In case anyone missed his little return video where he talks about London/Dallas.
nothing really, its a teaser for a bigger video i think
said he had problems with fuel and spitfire
said he was scared he couldnt come back to owl
He sounds like most đ ąronze Widow/Hanzo/Genji mains sound
Less problems with London overall though, just a congruence of things.
Fuel he notes is majorly different.
As long as Rascal has a brush, he's good with me
Ironically I trust xQc / Seagull the most on the Rascal stuff, both because its completely plausible and historically proven.
What did xqc and seagull said on the rascal issue?
@fast basin stop posting that in this channel
ok
Going back to Fuel, I bet Aero really wishes Rascal was still on DF right now
Since they're in need of a projectile player
I think this was xQc was impersonating kyky on training days asking if rascal wanted to play or not
seagull i don't recall anything that he already said about him, but that at least confirms his words
on stream
Do we have a clip on that???
@hidden vault Both of them said Rascal was hard to work with and it wasn't just Kykys fault. But both of them said it wasn't a -bad- thing.
Rascal, and Effect, both wanted to grind more and practice harder. Effect had just more or less given up on the team by that point.
So Rascal would more or less "whine" about people not trying that hard.
Basically exactly what Talespin had done previously when he quit Envy.
I think xQc said it was a good thing and he wished more people on the team would push him to grind like that, even if he didn't like it.
Basically EnvyUS was a bunch of fat shits who didn't practice that hard.
Which is very very apparent through Stages 1-3.
I mean its alla bout how you go about it.
And I think thats where all the communication issues came from.
So if he said it like a dick - no matter how right you are - you just sound like a dick.
Rascal's English wasnt that bad
He could do the in game comms
People just love to swallow whatever giant cock blames Kyky.
Right down to the balls.
But they needed a translator
Then they wipe their chin and say "SEE I TOLD YOU"
And don't get me wrong, I'm sure Kyky didn't help.
But when Seagull, perhaps the nicest person in the league by a mile, says he was hard to work with too.
It's very clear we're only hearing the side of the story we want to hear.
i mean i think its very clear what happened
effect and rascal are grinders
that's very obvious by how people talk about them, how they themselves act and what they have said about themselves
xQc found it annoying but it was good. he wishes he had people like that to push him to grind and get better
envyus core was never a massive grindy team, you can watch their old envyus vids on how their daily life is
effect is the only one who seemed to really care about putting the effort into getting better
the problem i think was them taking that individual desire to grind and succeed and pushing it onto the team
and language barriers, difference in culture and attitude to the game probably didnt help
We can't use logic in these situations.
It's clear that everything was Kyky's fault đ
I said since the start of Season 1 that EnvyUS needed to get rid of everyone on Envy minus Effect and people said I was trolling.
But looking back literally no one from Envy did anything worth while for the entire season.
i agree about envyus, i love them as personalities but in game theyre just.. lazy and washed up
They can only play a bruiser meta, anything beyond that and they're garbage.
Idk if they are washed up
imagine OGE Rascal EFFECT tho
But they really need more practice
Yeah, the team without EnvyUS always sounds good.
Even keeping Seagull in there.
If he hadn't retired.
Custa and Seagull imo
Maybe Taimou
eh
Maybe
Taimou is literally worth less than toilet paper.
Becasuse I can't even wipe my ass with Taimou.
The problem is that they were too lazy to practice
might get a pretty severe rash
I would just send them all to the contenders team
People remember Taimou from an Apex forever ago and think he's still special.
But unfortunately inconsistency is the worst trait in a Widow.
And get better players
And it would get them down to the earth
Put them in the contenders team
So they learn how to work hard
I could see a few of them on Contenders but some I wouldn't even want as a contenders coach.
they're too good for contenders imo, it wouldn't teach them anything
Keep Eff, OGE and probably akm
Like if you tried to give me Chips on a Contenders team?
I'd tell you to fuck right off.
You know you get players that are only in a team because they're good for morale or team spirit or whatever
I feel like all of envyus core is that
I mean I think that's just Mickie.
Maybe Cocco too
Especially since Mickie's D'va is so weak.
He's being kept for his morale and Brig at this point.
his brig will fall off i think
Well DF did use Brig 200% more than any other team.
So it looked better just from a visual timeline.
Tru
mykL's newest post:
"Kephrii is good enough to be in OWL, and people should try him."
Didn't know mykL didn't have a gag reflex.
I don't know why there's so many people supporting kephrii
He's a 4k Widow who can't even hold his own on ms, let alone LAN.
He's never made it through contenders, and refuses to go to contenders because it would financially be a bad decision for him (which is fair).
But if you can't even go to contenders, why the shit do you think OWL is fine.
he thinks hes jjonak
Honestly Mickie's Brig didn't even look great in the World Cup
Already starting to look washed








EnvyUs can stick as a contenders team, they seems more marketable there
And Kephrii is the 2nd dreamkazper, he had something similar
8 inches of 14 year olds
Gotta give those 8 inch shots
:Kappa:
(Poor man's emotes btw)
That feeling when kephrii wants a tryout for OWL
Not even contenders but OWL

Tfw you barely scrape t500 every season and keep your 4748 peak in your twitter bio

He might be good Widow, but what about his other qualities?
Non existent
He wants to increase his fame, ego etc...
Idfk
Heâs deluded thatâs for sure
Even if he was the best widow in the world with 100% crit accuracy he still would never make even the worst OWL team
OWL is not a place for OTPs
Especially when tanks are so prevalent in the meta
The teams with good widows, their widows are 1000x better
Id love to see Soon destroy him
The problem is heâs asking for a tryout
You know how much work it takes to even get a tryout for contenders? Let alone OWL?
He has neither earned nor deserved the opportunity
Nope. Theres a clear layed out path to OWL and he thinks he is above it
Idk what goes on behind the scenes but gladiators and uprising both had open tryouts a few months ago
I guarantee he didnât apply
Not to mention he has his fallbacks in place, he has a successful twitch stream where he makes more money than he ever would in OWL for less work
These kids trying out for OWL nowadays put everything on the line
I think xQc said it best; âkephrii has a plan B. These guys donât even have a plan Aâ
Don't worry, mykL went down to the balls on the eight Kephriinches and said it'd be a good idea to give him try-outs.
Further proving that mykL is a retard.
I rather get xQc and Dafran combined lol
why is kephrii even successful in overwatch stream lol
Because widow mains largely have mental disabilities
Cos people think it's hard to hit sniped shots.
Tbh I can see one reason why it would be good to give kephrii a tryout
So that he can fail and get rejected and finally shut up
He has decent ability to see a scene/screen and quickly find a target, and people think that's an impressive skill to watch/learn
Thereâs a certain level of work you have to put in to even earn a tryout
then why not glorify saya? he's the best
We do glorify saya
I guarantee people watching kephrii are kids who wanna be widow mains lol
Because heâs hitting these shots and completely stopping teams single handedly in OWL, against the best coordinated players in the world
(no offense)
Not hitting 360 grapple shots in low gm
âI used a sight line to pick someone off as soon as he left spawn! Better clip that shit and send it to freshnutsâ

I can name like 5 or 6 widows off the top of my head that are better than kephrii and donât play pro
Heâs a dime a dozen player
Joom, zombs, kabaji, wraxu, boostio, fuck I bet even samito is better than him LUL
and idiots still watch kephrii?
Eh he cornered the market early
Canât blame him
Heâs smart and got in early and became known as the widow guy
For all his faults he builds his brand well
^
and branding is what xQc does by accident
the knows his audience
but he doesn't need to change his ways to earn the viewership he has
Well theyâre fundamentally 2 different types of branding
xQcâs branding is purely him being himself, the character you see is who he is and by merit of just being himself he attracts audiences and becomes an appealing person to be involved with
Kephriiâs branding/self promo is tryhard to the point of suffocation
He constantly wants to duo/stack with other players who could possibly boost his viewership
But I want tryout for OWL because I'm Kephrii and everyone knows me
When the korean and Chinese pros came to NA none of them knew how cringey and disliked he was
So they played with him
And then they knew
Thatâs why you saw all those vids of him duo with SBB or Roshan
It almost felt predatory in a way tbh
Even if he's a full time streamer, why would he even want to join OWL?
I know he wants fame and boost ego
But
why
?
You have these guys who barely speak English coming over and heâs basically just using their big names to boost him
Itâs an interesting question
Maybe, he wants to be acknowledged as a pro player in the world
Is the majority of OWL players, didn't they came there through Contenders or because they were asked since the beginnings?
Isn't the rule of Blizzard to play in Contenders, and then be scouted by coaches?
No thereâs no rules
Teams decide who they offer contracts to
Then when the team and the player are happy with the contract it is sent to blizzard and they choose whether the player is allowed to play in OWL or Contenders or w/e official tournament theyâre running
So theoretically any team could just field a roster of bronze players, itâs perfectly legit
I see
As for your other question, most of OWL players were already in other teams and got bought out/dissolved when OWL teams emerged
London Spitfire = GC Busan + Kongdoo Panthers
Seoul Dynasty = Lunatic Hai
Etc...
And, is there a tryout for OWL teams?
Yes teams hold tryouts when they decide to
A few months ago la gladiators and Boston uprising had open tryouts for both their contenders team and their OWL team
You just have to be in the right discords and know the right people to hear about it
Wasn't there a private Discord for Grandmasters ?
Actually no thatâs inaccurate, sometimes teams will just post tryouts publicly
Itâs not for grandmasters, itâs called The OW. And itâs famously populated by basically everyone whoâs anyone in competitive OW
So basically every OWL player, contenders player, collegiate player, high elo streamers, managers, coaches etc...
But thatâs another tangent
The interesting question you brought up earlier was âwhy would kephrii want to join OWLâ
I think if youâre in his situation with a successful stream, good financial status and career safety why risk everything you have to go pro for what is definitely less money for more work
Isn't that the reason why Seagull stopped OWL and streamed?
He earns more with streaming than playing
Among other things
Seagull I believe didnt enjoy OWL anymore
He also had health issues with his sleeping
As well as the fact that fuel had no idea what to do with him

He plays genji hanzo etc...
Then they bring in rascal
And tell him go learn dva
He goes and learns dva and becomes a very solid dva in OWL
Then they just donât play him much
Seagull was benched half the time, got moved from dps to tank.
Fuel was a dumpster fire
Not much fun when you want to be not just playing, but playing dps.
Kyky and hastro and effect screwed the team over so hard
Most teams were fine btw
Donât let fuel affect your perception of other teams
Fuel was the outlier not only in their poor management but the fact that the team was so vocal about it
Fuel is what happens when you get people that can't keep things hush hush and professional
"poor management" applies to a few teams too
Dallas Dumpster Fire
Kephrii being a delusional pretentious and self entitled cuck lmfao. Thereâs so many Widow players who have bigger hero pools in contenders (especially the KR ones) What makes him think he gets a free owl roster spot privileges?
Because he streams

Not a Kephrii fanboy or supporter (in fact I actually dislike him) but isnât Dafran somewhat doing the same thing as Kephrii?
Like I know Dafran used to play for Selfless but he hasnât been in the pro scene in over a year and he has bypassed contenders and is presumably in the OWL
And Keph isnt?
I mean
Ik hes a one trick
But I think atlanta could use him
They dont have a good widow player
Dafran already confirmed hes not gonna play widow
Pine?
Well hes a 2 trick
But still
He only plays cree and widow
which is why he doesnt always play
A team could use Kephrii as like a widow specialist
to play widow when shes needed
hes also proven he can play sombra mei and a bit of cree
He does have some insane aim and he can stand up to some other widows in OWL
even as a specialist you need to be competent at something else a meta requires
and he's not even on par with top OWL widows
Anything Dafran says right now isn't liable
I wouldnt say that party
if you're going to have a limited pool you'd better be the best at it
because A) he might be under contract to not disclose anything until its official
or B) he isnt even playing in owl
not "one of", the best in the league
he's not a one trick
^
They have him because hes a competant widow player
Kephrii is a one trick
Neither is Keph?
Yes he is
He plays Mei Sombra Cree
which are all trash
Wait what?
He doesnt play them at a top500 level
^
he barely plays them in low gm
much less an owl level
He dominated the Phili LAN tourney on Mei?
LOL
Did you see that match vs Boostio
His mei is definetly top level
Maybe not his cree and sombra
there was no top level teams in the phili lan
he probably wouldnt be good enough for contenders
let alone OWL
I mean he probably will get a tryout for the sole purpose that he would bring clout
Im not saying he should
im 99% positive he wont get a tryout
it's a disrespectful attention grab from kephrii
As there are many other contenders players that deserve
nothing more
what would a tryout do for them clout wise
But a possibility
nothing, if not worse than nothing
it would be bad for them because of Kephrii's reputation
I mean he would probably make Atlanta
They dont have a single competant widow player dafuq?
kephrii isnt an OWL widow
That one contenders guy is gonna get shat on in owl
A ladder that includes OWL players?
you're deluded
I think he can stand up to some others but def not saya soon and pine
That we can agree on
Those guys are something else
Honestly I think saya is owl
?????? and you're saying he should get in because of his widow
Eh idk
We will see
no where near
I wanna see how dafran does in OWL
because hes said he isnt playing widow
And soldier hasnt been meta for over a year
again nothing he says is liable right now
a) hes under contract not to say anything
b) hes not in owl
i think so too but that's the two options
yeah
I know hes is one of the most skilled players in the world
as widow probably not, but as tracer yeah
I hope he doesnt end up in an xqc situation
@queen drift You're never supposed to take what Dafran says seriously
in the first place
he's Dafran
that phrase can explain everything he does
ik
Kephrii gets into OWL or Contenders, heâs gonna get his ass handed to him no matter what.
Doesn't he otp widow
Why would they allow a widow otp on an owl team
When there are flex hitscan better than him at widow
Yeah he is a widow ot
Pretty sure he was trolling but itâs just hella funny
he's just baiting. It gets him attention and attention is what makes him money
People think he's serious for whatever reason
He just baits and then acts like playing contenders is beneath him
and then it gets to the front page of /r/cow
and he wins
Maybe itâs a troll inside a troll
Maybe it's......
Just Dafran
is it for sure they are only adding 8 teams to season 2 or does Chicago still have a chance??
Chicago could be a possibility for next season
^^^^
Team names and logo announcements should start by next month or technically tomorrow since it is October
... Chicago has an esports scene?
Is no one else surprised by that?
Seeing as like 4 blocks in the city aren't a warzone
Whatâs with the attention grabbing claims with Kephrii?
@fleet walrus asked for a tryout from DC on Twitter
the controversy is that kephrii doesn't "deserve" a tryout
Imo itâs pretty disrespectful the way he went about it
Asking publically for a tryout, then essentially saying proving himself in contenders wouldnât be worth his time
To be fair, there's plenty of other players who got to OWL without being made to go the same route.

