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yeah, we've discussed it quite a bit
as a vancouverite, it'd certainly be cool to have them represent us
however i don't think the pink colours are happening

i know the different atleast like which side is which is on.
Vancouver is West and Toronto is on East
vancouver runaways dont sound that bad though
i very much doubt their branding will have anything to do with runaway
but still, sounds cool, yeah
yes but no team is going to name their permanent branding after their original roster
you can't just change the team name if you trade away the runaway players 2 yrs down the line or something
the point of the original franchise clause is to prevent this exact situation
so there's no affiliation to existing orgs or teams
it must be entirely original
i mean, you probably know this and just want to mention how it would sound cool
but just for the people that don't understand that, i guess
did anyone else enter that nyxl survey/raffle
said i got entered for 600 owl tokens and some merch
the survey was pretty long, though
like 10 mins long
did they forget to stop the fucking rerun?
oh why is it happening 2 hours later today
god damn inconsistency
I don’t get why they stop the rerun at all
I’d rather have it on constantly so I can drop in and watch
Link @gaunt acorn ?
match are 2 hours later cause the baguettes are not out of the oven till that time during weekend.
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Day 2 of the Overwatch World Cup: Paris Qualifier is live!
TODAY'S MATCHES:
12:00 CEST: 🇫🇷 France vs Germany 🇩🇪
13:45 CEST: 🇳🇱 Netherlands vs Italy 🇮🇹
15:30 CEST: 🇩🇪 Germany vs Poland 🇵🇱
17:15 CEST: 🇫🇷 France vs Italy 🇮🇹
19:00 CEST: 🇳🇱 Netherlands vs UK 🇬🇧
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look at that bird
https://clips.twitch.tv/HealthyBusyNightingaleTheThing
manuvers like an helicopter
fr vs de playing?
yes
This zen on germany was pog
kkodak
map 5 lets gooo
germany playing much better than yesterday against NL
Wait, how quick did poko build that grav?!
I wish they did console division

Not come pared to shudder or necros
console isn't really a viable path for growing a successful esport
it's only really had limited success in smaller cases like halo, cod
nowadays pc gaming is the top dog
Sleeper
and will likely remain that way indefinitely
Sleeper
I’m a console player, it sucks but I love it
personally i think pc allows a higher tier of play
F
so it's the opposite of sleeper, as a spectator
guess the screen is fucked now
Like overwatch on console
I agree, Dray
It feel neglected
didn't they do the ptr pharah changes in part due to console
FIX THE STREAM
stream work fine
no lol
we have to look via that screen omegalul
it's cozy
ghetto stream!!!!
the stream is fucked
What
camera men went on strike
What’s happening
it's france
dray
who won
france
sad
LMAO
germany deserved it
france had poko
germany had kodak that did really well last few matches
mei aye
happy to see her more
I miss Poko
No def not
[haloofthoughts] anonymous source: poko traded from fusion
But I did hear that Dallas wanted both Poko and Hotba
dallas likes french boys
That French Connection plus Hotba is pretty solid
i think fuel will pursue mcgravy for off-tank instead
he's on their academy team so
seems like a smart move
That would be a smart move frfr
mcgravy is certainly a capable off-tank
i'm nervously excited my city is getting runaway
i think the coaching staff has a lot of work to do, to get them up to par with owl teams
What happened
LMAO everyone is pissed about it
I never got to seethe
who is pissed
Broken stream
korean fanbase
No the opposite of the Korean fan base
oh
everyone i saw from north america seemed to like the news
that they finally got into owl
but atm runaway is like, a mid-tier owl team
certainly not candidates for playoff champions yet
especially against teams with an entire year of owl experience
Someone in Fusioncord was like “wow I can’t believe Vancouver is going full Korean, guess I’m rooting for Shock”
Very true
i hope they beef up their coaching staff
i heard a.. certain philly coach is being signed
Stoooooop
STOOOOOOOP
as much as i love runaway, they're once again the underdogs
gonna need some serious bootcamping
to make it in season 2
also kaiser reunion?
probably not
..but maybe?
if only for the chance that i can meet him at some kind of meet-and-greet in vancouver
Okay so I got sick last night while watching WC so what happened
aye first map to NL
wat een twist
wat een geweld
Did they switch the map order?
i don't know anymore
italy big
Goats residentsleeper
heartbeat his gravs are so EH
vizility is doing really well in getting grav hellla fast tthough
2 gravs 30 seconds
another one
Italy as a team is pretty good
They do things like ult management and position a lot better than some teams
But individual contribution is still lacking
Hup Holland hup
🇳🇱
Runaway is already probably a mid to high tier owl team imo @gaunt acorn
emphasis on mid
I think their only big problem will be separated from flowervin and runner
no owl coaches or players seem to believe runaway is high tier
their biggest problem is having no owl experience
they're essentially a year behind other teams
That’s a given tho, it can’t really be fixed without just playing
well yeah but
that's sorta my point
im not talking about their potential
im saying rn runaway is comparable to a mid-tier owl team
I don’t think they’re high tier but I don’t think they’re mid tier
With 20 teams instead of 12 though it’s gonna be easier to distinguish the leaders
You can have an actual mid high low tier
Rather than great, average, Shanghai
a whole year of getting acclimated to the schedule, environment, scrimming & playing against the best teams in the world every week
this is something runaway didn't get
Did they only start scrimming SK recently?
relatively, yeah
I see what you mean
I think that could also work in their favour though
Like Boston, they’re new and somewhat of a dark horse
sure
Like Boston were *
but boston was against 11 other inexperienced teams
The experience is gonna suck
it's not the inagural season anymore
the established teams have an inherent advantage this time
I think it’s kind of hard to imagine perspective on how much these teams have grown until we see them vs the new teams
thank god that was avoided
also flowervin isn't entirely out of the picture
she'll just be working remotely from korea
which is still pretty cool
Any news on who’s coaching
Both Canadian teams are all Korean?
I hope Flowervin moves along or keeps working with them in some way
Resident Sleeper
Rumors are she will (?), but I dont think she'd leave Korea
it's said she'll remain in korea but work for vancouver remotely
Is corn good for you? 🌽
Not if it's from the Netherlands! 🇳🇱
#OWWC2018 @OWranje https://t.co/fpMGTPgEo9
Netherlands looks pretty inconsistent throughout rip

Corn pog
Not a 4-0 tho rip
OH FOUR WATCH WORLD CUP

They should call Germany one trick Volskaya.
DANYE NO
wat? no akm?
dude fuck this crowd
booing every time italy does anything
oh wait nvm it's soon
xd
benbest is nuts
tanks are getting more attention then the dps
soooooooooooooooooon
Poko too stronk
in an hour, we get Netherlands - UK
Nerf France
Is he Korean?
from his plays it seems so
uhm
or france is the new korea
A bit weird to classify someone as another nation lol
just a joke that koreans are amazing at videogames and since poko is so good,he is secretly korean
I understood that reference lol 😛

So....
Give France the 4-0 and move on
@karmic grotto UK has a shot against then this stage.
Did they already play each other?
hmm
schweep
i bet this WC will end with a france vs UK
France vs Croatia
UK won't use to NL lmao
uh oh Anubis
Well
I mean they are getting boo’ed out the door anything they do
Neighbour countries
whose booing
wat do u want italy to do lol
oh u mean choose another map
idk
i thought u meant team comp
impressive
yeah heartbeat was being chased so hard by winston and still survived
holy crap the sleep dart plays
they really shoudnt have nanoboosted the primal rage
cuz the netherlands represent 2 flags
- the red white blue flag
- just orange and with a black lion sometimes
or the hollands represent the orange flag and the netherlands represent the red white blue
idk its confusing even as a dutch person myself
can someone explain how the scoring works?
is it a best of 4 maps or is it who has the most points by the end of 4 maps
its best of 5
5th map only played if neccessary. maps always go to 4 to make sure if theres a tie in the standings, the team with the higher point difference is on top
ah
No no
The crowd is really annoying
the crowd are sheep
Yep
yeah why
Culture
is there another set on the world cup?
Uh oh big brain Surefour coming back on the Torb changes.
Even with changes to torb he'll still rarely be used because his hitbox is just telling everyone to kill him.
1610
kreans i can understand they arent european
What
all european countries should lern english imo
See, the US should have just stayed out of it.
i mean in the EU
Ye, everyone should speak German
America didn't do shit against germany
Languages*
Well neither did Europe.
thats fine but if the EU has one general language
So I guess we're even 😛
it would be better
Let's learn Chinese
lets be realistic
I mean if you want to get paid more its a good language to learn for business
Not really
Depends on what field you work in
Yeah, but we're talking about successful business languages.
Latin

You're more succesful if you learn the language of your desired clients
Learning English is only one aspect
Best language
Best language is whale sounds
I don't know enough about other languages to call it
In terms of GDP Chinese and Arabic are the most important. Portuguese ranks up there too, but strictly just because of Brazils economic standing.
Spanish is still important - but growth centers have shifted away from those markets in many places.
Russian can be important because its a place where English is not a big thing.
Yeah, they're treated like the worlds farmer slaves
It's more just global ties to arab markets etc. Last year alone Arabic speaking countries accounting for something like 700 billion of the world GDP - and trending upward.
And its not a common spoken language outside of those areas, so the pay increase for speaking it is relatively large still.
gdp is a valuation of total goods produced, and the oil industry is valued really high
Mandarin is a decent pay bump just because its difficulty.
Spanish and French are relatively very easy to learn.
So what you guys think about France in OW Wcup ?
I think they're playing against a bunch of bronze yeams.
*teams
So its hard to tell since you know they'd win.
It was the same for US/Canada in their bracket.
You didn't have to watch the games to know those two teams would be top.
Canada Won ? i aint watching
But the teams in the US/Canada bracket actually had standout players from each area, Brazil had a lot of promise, etc.
No, second seed.
USA won.
Pretty handily too.
You mean a good chunk of Canadas issues?

He was way too disconnected from the team in terms of his play style when going against a real team.
He's reverted to playing like its ladder a lot.
Should be fixed by WC.
oof
xQc is my fav streamer so , i can't get an objective opinion
Nah, he should be fine. xQc knows how to play - he did the same thing in Stage 1 OWL.
He plays that super aggressive play you can get away with on Ladder, but gets punished by real playerrs.
Until getting kicked
He'll tone it down and get more in sync with NotE, I'm sure.
Yeah I hope so
While Muma is not always my favorite player he builds synergy with other tanks very very quickly.
And Space was just a monster.
Poko is doing Poko things, the only thing that never impressed me with him is his ult eating.
Zarya by pro players is so op
Whe n i just see the cam focus on a zarya , it's just impressive how they melt enemies hitpoints
uk win ez
Might be boring for you, but for me, it's funny how Zarya melts enemies away
goats is more boring
But uk has the most owl players
yh
Rite?
1 owl player
damn OWL players
ezclap
kyb is nutty
lmao
LOL
that was incredible
kyb was stupid diving into a brig
imo vizility has been playing so well this WC
yes man
so has crusafe
ive noticed that
i enjoy these casters
These people really like to dive
the NL v UK result has me deeply conflicted
my dutch pride is conflicting with my british pride
my dutch doesn't extend that far D:
Would be nice if they push these games a bit earlier, keep missing them!
did UK win?
Yes
what is up with the OWWC game sound for the players... why is nobody hearing the sombra is near sound
is the french crowd that loud that they cant hear any of the game sound
maybe the organizer need to invest in some glass wall like korea does
kinda stupid if the crowd is too loud to hear shit
france and uk are locked
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TODAY'S MATCHES:
12:00 CEST: 🇮🇹 Italy vs Germany 🇩🇪
13:45 CEST: 🇫🇷 France vs Poland 🇵🇱
15:30 CEST: 🇮🇹 Italy vs UK 🇬🇧
17:15 CEST: 🇵🇱 Poland vs Netherlands 🇳🇱
19:00 CEST: 🇫🇷 France vs UK 🇬🇧
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FR V UK 
Esketit I’ve been awake for 24 hours and ready to watch some Overwatch
don't over watch now
I’ll probably die but it’s okay
ur ok
@gaunt acorn im not ok
ok
NOT O K
this stream is indeed very uh, bad quality wise
i thought it was me
No it's actually subpar with the past three group stages
And that's comparing the Blizzard arena
As well as one of Bangkok's first major esports production
IDK why can't stop think about unkoe's face. He in my head. Holymoly
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2329
KappaPride
it was the fps, but then also the audio cutting out, weird overlays etc
Danye east
any1 watching poland vs france?
trying
?
Pirate ship on the point mmm
Does anyone know if Valor uprise has a community discord?
check their twitter
poland is a bot burger
"just play like we do against bots guys"
need to change their career path
wait what's going on
overwatch
i see 0-3 but the match's not over yet
why a widow on attack?
widow is a staple
poland srsly need to try something different..
Map wins
if just 1 of them was on the payload for the entire time, they might've got that point
first point secured
3000 IQ by 🇮🇹
KSP gonna pull a DSP
alright time for some EN vs FR who is the best
As a Brit, I want team UK to win
first time to Blizzcon, let's go 
This crowd is fucking AMAZING
🏆 ➡ 🏠
@sullen berry join vc pussy
Genuinely sounds like a football stadium it's great
WHERES THE STREM GONE
It happened yesterday as well XD
welcome to france
EU production
FR Stream lul
where wires dont last more than 5 minutes
its really the french, german, english and the dutch who have the best crowds in football stadiums
[article 13 meme]
gotta say i hoped this would be closer but i know france will win
Not just any home side advantage
I'll go and sing Football's Coming Home there
Still, that fucking crowd
clearly the uk lack a player with an OOOH sound in their handle. thats the key to france's successs
entire french team on fire

!
I don't, he's washed
I'm Italian and oh my God carnifex just can't play Brigitte.
🏳️ LET'S GO FRANCE! YAY TEAM FRANCE 🏳️
🌶
If they nerfed Zarya GOATS would be gone
the audience is crazy 😄
Zarya is useless outside goats
brigs getting anothert nerf in ptr
delete brig tbh
Pls do that
only thing i like about her is shes easy to play with an xbox controller while my shoulder is broken
Brig was a mistake
Its a character made to suit the brainless monkeys that play Genji in Bronze and cant aim for shit
For those "Im lower than I should" people
From my experience, those people are often the ones to complain about brig rather than play her

I dont want to get to high Masters as Brig
Even if its easy af
Its like those top 500 Mercys
With Mercy 1.0
That's not something you'll ever need to consider, don't worry

The power of OWL
OWL players vs ?
Ye
boombox
Boombox is but one man
He's the only one, right
yes
Oh well, France will lose anyways in play offs
UK is still going through
correct
🏳️ LET'S GO FRANCE! YAY TEAM FRANCE 🏳️
China are going to body team UK 
boombvox the guy with like 1 mainstage series at OWL 😛
😦
its south korea vs canada, usa vs finland, and (if the match goes to france) france vs australia and uk vs china
Is Australia equal to France?
monka fucking s
no aus is bad
france is better I think
south korea will win
usa will win
france will win
china will win
What nerfs are brig getting
france winning the 3:3 comp... it would be funny if it was nerfed before bliz con and now they suck
FRA/USA/KR/CND are the best teams in the World Cup, probably KR and FR
French anthem lul
this crowd is doing everything they can to look like what we know about french people.... obnoxious as fuck
whats obnoxious about singing their national anthem and doing chants
USA USA 
yeah and it is obnoxious aswell
its literally every sports crowd in europe
watch any football or rugby game in the uk or europe
imo it sounds like an awesome atmosphere, theyre having fun
I think Finland is better than France
They almost beat SK
They managed to trap them in the spawn
And barely lost a 99 99 round
finland stronk
This is a huge yikes for the uk
Finland is one of the STRONG teams
not really this is the first strong team theyve played in their group.
I'm actually glad the french fans are this loud, it was feeling a bit quiet in the other groups
USA crowd can only chant one thing, and thats USA lol

Unironically true 
NEVER SURRENDER
^
If you don't fight, you have already lost, but if you fight, you have a chance of winning

rip uk man
first time they're going to bc right?
fragi is that you?
SoOn just destroyed UK dreams in like 3 seconds
Maybe next year Blizzard will randomize pools and not put a team with 4 OWL players and 2 OWL-level players in a pool with 1 other OWL player
:I those UK guys have some out of control chest hair
sombero
goddamnit why is csgo major going on at the same time as this
nvm it's already over
thank you 4-0
Huh
Hopefully there's no crowd so teams can actually use comms. Crowds do nothing positive, they make too much noise so players can't use voice comms well.
^^^
Of course there will be a crowd
...
crowd was so loud nobody was hearing the sombra is near sound
they were walking next to the player constantly... nobody was noticing
"sOOOOOOOOOOOOOn"
koreans got this figured out with glass walls... why can't the american organizer figure out this
FR vs CN, UK vs SK --> FR vs SK --> FR Win. Plspls
Idk man China was taken to game 5 against Thailand, Denmark and Australia
I wouldnt be shocked if Finland wins that one
I want Finland to go to the semis
They took South Korea all the way to the last teamfight and BARELY lost it
(They choked HARD there)
Because the team that wins between Canada and Finland (if they both advance), are the ones than can actually beat SK
SK is not as dominant as it used to be in 2016 and 2017
inb4 US beats SK in semis
no sweden and no danmark? 😮
Sweden unfortunately did their best florida mayhem impression
Almost like making a team based on ancient history and nepotism is prone to failure
I kinda felt bad for the UK Overwatch WC team.. they got stomped so hard lmfao It almost looked like a a bunch of soloques vs a stacked team
Does the Overwatch league games take place in a custom game?
yes
it's also on a special client
5 weeks until more World Cup 
Wait really o_O?
Blizz con
Didnt know it was that far off still. Womp
I have faith in Finland to beat China
I think they will, as long as they can adapt to the new meta
Also the crowd doesn't cover up the in-game sounds, they're called sound-cancelling headphones for a reason
they use aviation headsets
so that you can hear what people are saying in a plane as the pilot
so while they can hear the crowd, i highly doubt that they hear the crowd over in game stuff
"David Clark Aviation Headset", pretty sure thats the brand
Yeah
Like they probably hear if the crowd is cheering, but it won't distract them
or go over in-game sound
ye
when is blizzcon... their stupid website is just not working for me
ok
Aus vs South Korea, oof. That's rough.
The Kangoroo guys will be beaten by Korea chopsticks
Well finals would be canada us korea china
Finland is looking strong as fuck this year
Finland got tank comps on lock
I believe in Finland
Finland has a preety strong roster
I'm just spooked that they won't be flexible enough which has been kind of a problem in the past
Even when Linkzr and Taimou overlap a lot
The biggest thing they lack is the ability to play a good Genji and Tracer
at the same time
This time they have this Contenders player
Who is preety good
And have Linkzr on the other dive dps
I hope Davin is their grand plan if they haven't taught Taimou to play projectile in 2 months (which they haven't)
Taimou is a hitscan specialist
That can flex a little bit
He was preety good against Philly on Hanzo
I just worry about Pharah and Genji
And he can flex to Junk and Pharah
Even if he isnt that good
He was still able to play them in owl
^
And he did decent
He wasnt as good as Jake on Junk
Or as SDB on Pharah
But he was able to be effective
I thought Taimou was a budding Main Tank
Budding? Dude is already there
Are they gonna play on the new patch for top 16?
I mean top 8
They have a month so...
australia with the biggest upset of all time les go
Australia is going to get clapped
trill will carry the f out of aus
also really hyped to see how china will perform vs a good team
i want to see some guxue blades
Hey guys
Do you think China is going to clap 👏 Denmark in blizzcon?
I think China is a region that’s been improving and they deserve a win if they can work for it.
Also trill is a god tier player in Australia. Really excited to see them perform.
Denmark???? In Blizzcon??? You mean Finland?
Chips was good in the ol days. Now he’s a mid tier support. Love him but Dallas need wins and roster spots are limited #fuelsbadman
Yeaa prob more to come
SFS’s announcement is tomorrow 👀👀👀 
The rumor is Rascal is moving up

If that’s not the announcement then imma be pissed
It’s what makes the most sense, I’ve been saying it for a month. I want my vision to come true
I'd be sad if Rascal goes to Shock with how much the team doesn't seem currently happy with a lot of whsat happened.
Poor guy doesn't need to get fucked twice.
Now let's see how he holds up there or will it be like xqc all over again
You guys see the emongg clip where he talks about how dafran didn't even throw that map? Ofc it doesn't excuse the torb stuff but 
I dont think Rascal in Shock would be a good idea
He overlaps too much with Architect
So is Dafran not joining OWL?
@balmy wolf the opposite
he's now been ok'd by blizzard and is able to play for the atlanta owl team
Atlanta's viewership just increased tenfold
let's go dude
Should start a better square to see how long till he gets banned.
Refunds on if they restrict his streaming
Atlanta is the closest team to where i live. wooh we got a Meme on our team!
Vancouver the best Season 2
full rosters that have been signed to compete with other stacked rosters
it'll go down just fine
if they for some reason pick up xqc I will not even watch them xD
I'm so sick of hearing about him
Here's ATL's team so far (all unofficial)
Is that confirmed then?
(all unofficial)
The Darfan thing
wait is that the kodak I think it is
from 6nakes
thats a good pick up
and german national team
@bitter phoenix I don't think you have to worry about them picking up xQc + Dafran, I don't think any org would be that stupid.
I tend to not believe anything until I get the official news on it
Especially since xQc just got his main account banned again.
It's a day that ends in Y.
There's like a 95% chance of him getting banned for being retarded.
Pretty sure like usually he was doing a "climbing" stream, which meant he was losing a lot.
And he started rage typing.
Not announced, and still just rumors.
it was just posted above
Its confirmed
Daco and ERster is good
It's more on how intelligently Dafrans contract is written.
Kodak is kind of a a boop god nothing much on that
contracts are almost definitely standard form for now
Like if I was ATL I'd have a no/minimum streaming part of the contract, since we know its part of the contracts (ala EQO)
I'm sure the morality/streaming clauses can be amended.
At least should be, if your team isn't mongo.
True
morality clauses are already a thing aren't they
But since they have skrims for 9 hrs they might not stream that long in general
very few teams have them that much every day
Dafran doesnt need to go pro though thats what I dont get he makes legit more money on twitch
Also since Dafran has two historical pro-event bans, you'd be absolutely head in ass retarded not to make it more strict.
some things aren't about money
and he'll still have streaming
maybe he's got the itch again
Maybe he's comparing it to McDonalds again.
he's still getting suspended in stage 1
@pearl stratus damn straight
Wasn't that his line last time? He'd rather work at McDonalds than go pro.
Also he's probably too stupid to use a fryer.
lmao
Dafrans location the ice cream machine is permanently broken when they figured he couldn't screw up cleaning it.
he still might get more followers from owl base
He's probably suspended currently, most likely.
Historically people with pre-OWL charges have to finish out a suspension before play.
OGE, Sado, etc.
doubt it
And he's admitted on stream to boosting etc.
So consistency wise they may have him serve out a suspension right out of the gate.
new leaf??
no
New Leaf only matters when you're two years into it.
No one gives a fuck on day 2.
you wouldn't enjoy if they turned a new leaf
because you didn't sign up for a professional pro player
Yeah imagine if xQc actually acted like a real player?
He'd drop to like 2k viewers.
I'd be shocked if Dafran wasn't suspended at the beginning of S2
I said a week ago that I figured he would
I don't think it'll be Sado length.
I'm guessing OGE length.
Maybe a bit longer.
yeah I don't think it'll be terribly long
4-6 games maybe.
I like LAV including SF Shock in the California battles now.
Also RIP Lateyoung potentially not making it to Blizzcon.
https://clips.twitch.tv/CrowdedFaintDumplingsPermaSmug?tt_content=player_title&tt_medium=clips_embed
just jebait
muma 2.0
moving on to realm royale



