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gaunt acorn
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there are 3 other chinese teams that get first pick

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and probably one of them will attempt a full-chinese roster

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the others, i imagine, will just settle for koreans

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shanghai included

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they seem to be going for a mix of korean/chinese players

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wouldn't surprise me if at least 1 chinese team goes full-korean

hidden vault
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The chinese is the only nationality capable of not going full korean without being mediocre

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If they don't no one will

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Even Houston didn't but look at them

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Ok that's besides the point

idle beacon
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spain vs who?

vast geode
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Denmark

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Why do I get the feeling China gonna be soon rivals to Korea

idle beacon
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why are u18 players allowed in thw world cup?

vast geode
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Why not

idle beacon
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is it because of no money prices?

vast geode
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Well it’s not a job I suppose

idle beacon
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no winghaven in spain this year

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too bad ^^

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lol i dont know one of the danmark roster

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oh kellex

gaunt acorn
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because they aren't under contract for world cup

balmy wolf
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I feel bad for Korea

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They’re going to ruin Lunatic Hai’s legacy

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I expect Korea to lose this year

hidden vault
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I don't think any of the teams are actuallt strong enough to beat korea

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But is was a mistake that they chose players mainly from NYXL

balmy wolf
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Unless fate can learn how to feed less I don’t see him not getting farmed by Finland, Canada, or the US

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Yes that’s mainly it

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They’re going to choke

hidden vault
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Aww no more Fate and Fury combo

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You are gonna meet your fate with fury

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Ok that's lame

balmy wolf
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I expect the members of LW Blue to choke, fate is going to feed, and it’s going to end with disaster. They should’ve picked a mixture of London spitfire and Seoul dynasty like it was intended by Seoul failed us

hidden vault
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Carpe Fleta is great too

balmy wolf
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Actually Seoul never failed. Their coaches failed them.

hidden vault
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NYXL is too dive

balmy wolf
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So was Seoul

hidden vault
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Really wonder how they would far in goats

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They have Carpe

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We will see

balmy wolf
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They never had time to adapt to new metas because lunatic hai was busy winning tournaments they never had time to change it up or practice new metas and strategies. Eventually even if lunatic hai remained as their original roster I think the goats meta would’ve been the beginning of the end for them, wouldn’t you agree their end was inevitable? They are too dive

hidden vault
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Well lunatic hai didn't win Apex 4

balmy wolf
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That wasn’t because of goats. They just simply got outplayed

hidden vault
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Lw blue dripped out

balmy wolf
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It was still dive season

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Yeah the both big elite teams dropped out or failed

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Also I just want to see EscA make a return and try to regain some lost glory

hidden vault
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Lunatic hai got out played

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Nah miro is gone

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Gido is gone

balmy wolf
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Can you really blame them? Once you’re at the top the only way is back down...

hidden vault
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Maybe we can wait for season 3 for whoru

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I don't know I think overwatch league is really sad

balmy wolf
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I think it’s unfair

hidden vault
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Players get booted not for their skill but for meta plays

balmy wolf
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It seems like they’re killing the korean teams to make it easier for western teams to win

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Doesn’t it?

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Life is unfair

hidden vault
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every and I say EVERY single team had to scumb to getting koreans

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Players to coaches

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It's just disappointing

balmy wolf
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It really does seem like they can’t beat the korean teams so they just tore their teams apart

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It makes me angry because if they were allowed the same structure and resources the Koreans would 4-0 every map and end every fight with a team kill

hidden vault
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Looking at mayhem looking at seoul

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Shanghai idk how many players were involved with the scandal

balmy wolf
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Yeah no resources allowed

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Mayhem never had a head coach

hidden vault
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But that's beside the point

balmy wolf
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Do you think there’s a scandal in the former best korean team that comprises of Seoul?

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Like in Shanghai but on a much deeper level?

hidden vault
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No

balmy wolf
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Regarding their old coaching staff probably

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They told miro conflicting styles

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It’s like the cop that says stand up but cross your legs and if you do one or the other you’ll get shot

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The way to win is not to play

hidden vault
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I don't know what coaches are supposed to be doing other then analyse

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The players actually have more experience playing

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The irony

balmy wolf
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But I have faith in Seoul. They’ll make some shit happen. They’re good at that. These coaches have too much power, making roster choices. They should ban coaches like they did in league and leave the roster choices to the players so they can fucking win

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The players on each team are MORE than capable

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It’s just these coaches tripping on paper

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Most failed teams can be traced back to coaches

hidden vault
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Why hire coaches

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Just analyst will do lol

balmy wolf
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Because people are greedy

idle beacon
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aren't coaches better than players, have more knowledge than players ?

balmy wolf
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And some people like being in control

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No

idle beacon
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atleast they are in any other sport

balmy wolf
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Just because you coach doesn’t mean you can perform in-game in overwatch and just because you’re a performer in-game doesn’t mean you can coach

idle beacon
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again

balmy wolf
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Overwatch isn’t like other sports

idle beacon
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coaches in other sports played that sport

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and the games i've played

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coaches were players before aswell

balmy wolf
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It doesn’t apply

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Not all coaches can just hop in and win lol

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There’s a reason they’re coaching and not playing

idle beacon
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That’s like saying that all black people should be assumed violent human beings because of prison inmate racial statistics very stupid comparation

hidden vault
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It's just specifically overwatch cause it's still a relatively new game

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And the players indeed spent more time playing then their coaches

idle beacon
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no

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i said

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coaches were playing themself before they were coaches

balmy wolf
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You just said any and all coaches can outperform any and all players because they use to be players

idle beacon
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you can't just become a coach like that, with no practical experience? Oo

hidden vault
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Ok chill

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Weeknd

idle beacon
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whatever, kid .. learn to read and understand

hidden vault
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I'm not saying they weren't players before

balmy wolf
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“Kid” sounds like you’re self aware

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I doubt Kyky can be thrown in for Muma or whoever the main tank is and outperform him

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Or whatever role he plays idc

hidden vault
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Most of the current coaches had lesser time as a pro player in overwatch as compared to most of their players

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This is what I meant

balmy wolf
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They’re picked because their input and assets to team play and strategies are valuable

hidden vault
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I apologise if I wasn't clear winston

balmy wolf
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But that doesn’t mean they can be equal to or greater than the players they’re coaching

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I’m sure there is a coach somewhere

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Who can do that

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But MOST coaches cannot

hidden vault
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Most of them were converted from other games, which of course if their pro play was overwatch I believe they will do alot better

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There are some really good coaches like coach moon, Aero Wizhyeong

balmy wolf
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Yeah. It’s just a huge blow of disrespect to the pro players who spend countless hours doing what they do for someone to just say “oh yeah the coach, he’s both an endless fountain of knowledge and mechanical skill”

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Because the former is not true

hidden vault
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I don't know but somehow I feel this batch of pro players would make great overwatch coaches

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I believe this batch went through alot

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If overwatch lasts that long

balmy wolf
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Yes I agree

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It’s just sad we couldn’t see them all compete against each other for longer than they did

idle beacon
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where did dhak play before?

balmy wolf
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Shock and selfless with dafran and sinatraa

idle beacon
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@hidden vault no need for an apology .. i've understood what it was about

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ah ye shock

balmy wolf
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It’s important to note he came from the team dafran was on. He isn’t some random dude

idle beacon
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i just didnt remember in what owl team he was. i only remembered some red / orange color ^^

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happyhook was / is from fuel

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right?

gaunt acorn
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harryhook, yes

hidden vault
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Dafran does full time streaming

idle beacon
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kellex?

hidden vault
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Boston uprising

idle beacon
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damn, i haven't followed owl for ages. forgot where they all played at

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ah ye boston

hidden vault
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You mean ow not owl

idle beacon
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?

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overwatch league

hidden vault
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But be crazy if you are an owl player

idle beacon
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owl

hidden vault
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Oh

idle beacon
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wait

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what ??

hidden vault
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Oh dear misread it

idle beacon
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i am confused now 😄

hidden vault
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Just ignore it

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I misread

idle beacon
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ah about what i said

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i've missed stage 4 completly

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only saw the finals

hidden vault
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Missed the finals XD

idle beacon
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but there was no sfs, boston @ finals 😃

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and dhak hasn't played for sfs for a long time, if i remember?

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lol spain on fire atm 😮

hidden vault
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Yeah cause moth took over

idle beacon
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the same with danteh

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i never understood why they benched danteh

hidden vault
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And dhak has been booted from sfs

idle beacon
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this popifresh has some interesting tracer play

hidden vault
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Cause architect sintraa

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Both babybay and danteh got benched

idle beacon
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ye, too bad

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architect ok

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but sinatraa so much better than danteh? Oo

balmy wolf
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He was performing badly when he first got a chance to play so they put him back on the bench and it was stuck in a weird situation because nobody expected sinatraa to underperform his debut

idle beacon
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did he then performed better?

balmy wolf
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Nope

idle beacon
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i haven't watched stage4

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lol

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too bad for danteh, eh

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damn popi pops off 😄

balmy wolf
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Danteh has a better performance than sinatraa. Yeah maybe before owl sinatraa was a thing but unless he proves himself in the World Cup, id say he’s done or probably going to another team

idle beacon
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ye i hope so

balmy wolf
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But

idle beacon
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danteh was doing damn well

balmy wolf
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He did make 150k

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Regardless of how long he plays that’s a fortune

idle beacon
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danteh or sin ?

hidden vault
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Yeah sintraa was choosen over danteh for USA OWWC anyways

balmy wolf
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Yeah sin

idle beacon
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150k

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heh

balmy wolf
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He was signed 150k so even if he fucks up he’s still making way more than some of the Seoul dynasty members

idle beacon
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and then delivering such a trash performance

balmy wolf
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Not his fault I’d say

hidden vault
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Seoul members deserve more my god

balmy wolf
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Too much pressure on his shoulders. Everyone expected a god tier performance. He’s a kid of course he’s going to fuck it up

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The same is for Seoul

hidden vault
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Zunba even started smoking because of that

idle beacon
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he did? 😮

hidden vault
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Yeah

idle beacon
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now that's stupid 😄

hidden vault
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Just search in the chat

idle beacon
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smokin weed

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or plain cigs ?

hidden vault
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Zunba smoking

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I think cigs

sullen berry
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Zunba and the big smoke

hidden vault
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Not too sure

sullen berry
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🚭

balmy wolf
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Everyone called seoul back to back world champions and the moment they had a chance to prove themselves on an equal play field they got outplayed and fucked it up. When there’s that much pressure on you and everyone expects you to be literally the best, what teenager or young adult wouldn’t fuck up there?

idle beacon
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and about seoul .. i never understood the hype about them

balmy wolf
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They beat the korean teams that are beating the overwatch league for years back to back and never dropped a single map in the World Cup

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They set records impossible or nearly impossible to recreate

idle beacon
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aren't they having people which talk with the players, to calm them down and motivate them?

balmy wolf
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No their structure was poor compared to the western teams

hidden vault
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Nah they don't

idle beacon
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too bad

hidden vault
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The industry isn't mature enough

balmy wolf
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The only reason they were good was because of more play time. Once the field is leveled and equaled they aren’t the best anymore. It’s not fair for all.

hidden vault
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And damn bilzzard for not making that a tos

balmy wolf
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^

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Damn the players for not making a players union

idle beacon
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so only assholes being "you better perform good" instead of a positive motivation peops ?

balmy wolf
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It’s really on them for not making a players union

hidden vault
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Uh huh

balmy wolf
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They’re just kids

hidden vault
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It's not players union

balmy wolf
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They should make one

hidden vault
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But playercare and welfare

balmy wolf
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But they cared more about money

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And the status of being a pro

hidden vault
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If they players are satisfied they wouldn't need that

balmy wolf
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thing is

idle beacon
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when owl started, i really were anti-seoul

balmy wolf
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Nobody would care what happens to a championship team. Many would say they need to step down to make room for others

long belfry
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🛠

idle beacon
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later at the end of stage3 and 4 .. i felt a lil pity for'm

hidden vault
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Looked at what happened to miro

balmy wolf
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They were predicted to win the entire thing without dropping maps or stages

hidden vault
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Revolutionary winston too

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Ahem

idle beacon
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that's a bit too much to expect, eh

long belfry
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Miro was figured out

balmy wolf
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They were called the best team bro

hidden vault
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From his own team

balmy wolf
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Here are six guys

hidden vault
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Booted

balmy wolf
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They’re the best

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And then they fuck up

idle beacon
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yea, but not losing a single map .. is not really doable

balmy wolf
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Instead of the coach being like it’s okay come practice he’s like nah you’re out

idle beacon
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maybe they did that before owl .. where other teams haven't had analysts and shit

balmy wolf
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Actually

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No losing maps is doable.

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In the 2016 World Cup

idle beacon
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so as i said, seoul having assholes

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as coaches

balmy wolf
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Most teams had equal resources, coaches and time to practice

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Yet Seoul still never dropped a map

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This year they might

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LW “Choke” Blue instead of LH

idle beacon
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who got dropped out of dynasty?

balmy wolf
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Miro, Gido, Wekeed

idle beacon
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😮

balmy wolf
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Goodbye 👋

idle beacon
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who came in?

long belfry
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Seouls coaches were worse than KyKy

balmy wolf
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Fissure

hidden vault
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Xepher and Kuki

idle beacon
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what?

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WHAT?

balmy wolf
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Seoul coaches are worse than kyky

idle beacon
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fissure left glads?

balmy wolf
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Yes

hidden vault
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Yes

idle beacon
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

balmy wolf
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Obviously

hidden vault
balmy wolf
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He hates non korean teams

hidden vault
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It's all there

idle beacon
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@hidden vault i haven't followed owl much, bruh 😄 but thx

balmy wolf
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I mean

hidden vault
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Yeah that's the fastest read

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And catch up

idle beacon
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i bet dynasty offered a shitload of money

hidden vault
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Well fissure wanted it too

balmy wolf
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I think season 2 will come down to Seoul vs London in the season grand finals

idle beacon
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glads weren't really bad .. there can't be a reason he hated it there

balmy wolf
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Fissure will tear London a new one

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If anyone can save Seoul, it’s fissure and his leadership

idle beacon
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so 3 left, 1 came or any other player?

balmy wolf
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None yet but Seoul expressed wanting ado from the shanghai dragons

hidden vault
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Xepher and Kuki got given away

balmy wolf
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They never were apart of LH so I don’t care for them as much as miro

hidden vault
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I suppose that's where fissure's purchase money came from

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Ha ha

balmy wolf
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Even gido

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He was with them after their peak

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Same for fleta

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He’s not really... lunatic hai.

hidden vault
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Gido was the original lunatic hai

balmy wolf
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Only for apex season 4?

hidden vault
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No

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Check that

balmy wolf
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I did

idle beacon
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Today we announce that we have parted ways with @FCTFCTN.

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lol?

balmy wolf
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Kay I was wrong

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Season 3

long belfry
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Gido was a dps player

balmy wolf
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Yeah the coach putting him on Zen is like kyky putting akm on genji

hidden vault
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Gido mained zen actually

idle beacon
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nyxl's headcoach also quit

hidden vault
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But gido should have been on tracer

idle beacon
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wtf is going on? 😄

balmy wolf
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Dude

hidden vault
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It's overwatch

balmy wolf
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What if the old lunatic hai members returned under headcoach Wizardhyeong

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They’d win so much

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Xd

hidden vault
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Nah forget it I'm not expecting anything frim the old days

balmy wolf
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Why didn’t Seoul just buy him?

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Even KuKi with his average tier performance

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But I don’t think wekeed was owl ready

idle beacon
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the mcdonalds team also released alot

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😮

balmy wolf
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They might sign a full korean roster

idle beacon
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mayhem

hidden vault
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McDonald's team wants to change colours too

balmy wolf
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Good

idle beacon
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any other match going on now?

vast geode
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Ye Spain vs Denmark right now

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But I wanna see Thailand vs Australia and the contenders match

idle beacon
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custa from ehm

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can't remember ^^

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and mickie from fuel ?

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australia have 2 valiant players and can't take down thailand? 😄

gaunt acorn
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australia only has one valiant player

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custa is the only australian in the overwatch league, currently (mickie is also the only thai player)

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australia vs thailand is 1 owl + 5 non-owl v.s. 1 owl + 5 non-owl

sullen berry
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CKM is not AKM

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Understandable

idle beacon
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liquipedia says that gunba is also from valiants

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i need a new gaming chair

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any recommendations?

sullen berry
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I work in returns

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I would recommend the opposite

idle beacon
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what?

sullen berry
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We get a handful of Dxracer gaming chairs where at least one of the wheels don't hold up

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While we use the ones they use on stage

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Thunder X3

gaunt acorn
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dont get a gaming chair

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get a respectable office chair

sullen berry
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They are inconsistent in quality

gaunt acorn
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that is comfortable

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and good build quality

sullen berry
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Office chairs are ergonomic

gaunt acorn
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gaming chairs you pay more for the branding

idle beacon
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well i'd need a chair with adjustable arm rest things

sullen berry
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Basically what I associate with the OWL Gaming chairs

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They look like straight up office chairs

idle beacon
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but with adjustable arm rests?? .. i dont know what they're called

upper niche
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WTF was that I just watched against that Dva?

copper solstice
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Isn’t those chairs like 1000 dollar chairs?

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Herman Miller chair named like Aeron I think @idle beacon

idle beacon
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poor thailand 😦

rapid bobcat
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Australia is playing 3 matches in 1 day

idle beacon
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is this still ive?

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trash keyboard

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is this still live?

gaunt acorn
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no, it's contenders pacific now

idle beacon
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but live?

gaunt acorn
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yes?

idle beacon
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is there also a page with infos about it, @gaunt acorn ?

torpid charm
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I’m pissed I missed Contenders Finals

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Wait I didn’t nvm

long belfry
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I saw we announce that OGE and EFFECT and almost had a heart attack

torpid charm
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ME TOO LMAO

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I’m not even a Fuel fan but it made me nervous

limber pine
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CAG's ult management has been terrible

pearl stratus
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Which is crazy since they're still handling things really well.

limber pine
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ikr

pearl stratus
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They're basically ignoring Ameken though.

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So little D'va pressure on him

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He just gets to rocket rocket rocket

limber pine
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not enough direct rocket hits though

pearl stratus
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Yeah - the fun of watching contenders is the nutty comps. The downside is watching the skill gap

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Imagine if Ameken was like.. Agilities level.

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All of those fights go completely different.

limber pine
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definitely

torpid charm
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CAG pls get it together

pearl stratus
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I want Vods from last night to go up, I heard Jake did a solid job casting.

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Remove Monte and Doa, replace with ZP + Jake.

torpid charm
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I never really how soothing Wolf and Achilios are because they deadass put me to sleep

limber pine
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If OWL's schedule looks similar with 8 new teams, they'll need a 4th casting duo

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i'd think it'd likely be ZP + whoever

torpid charm
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ZP & Jamerson 👀

pearl stratus
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Jake. Boot him off the roster, get a Danteh over.

limber pine
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one can wish

pearl stratus
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Not that Jakes play is bad.

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But I like having his analysis around.

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Having a second Reinforce figure would never hurt.

torpid charm
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That’s a good point

grizzled trout
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season 2 is gunna be neat

pearl stratus
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So far its looking like they're ironing stuff out.

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The schedule changes look potentially really nice, if that leak was true.

limber pine
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The Great Bamboozle Part 2

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the Re-Boozleing

pearl stratus
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CAG playing a modified Dive into this comp

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Is like crazy amateur

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Can Taiyo not play Rein?

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"Lets play Dive into Goats."

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Then Talon on the cart:

limber pine
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I'm trying to remember Taiyo at OWWC

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uh apparently Ta1yo is a DPS

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playing tank now?

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no wait

pearl stratus
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That makes sense then. Probably would get out-Reined.

limber pine
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yeah I'm right

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off tank and DPS at OWWC

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so if you think about it, it's kinda miraculous that they've done as well as they have

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without a main tank

pearl stratus
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Yeah, that's pretty huge.

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It also explains why they struggle so much with GOATS with people being on unfamiliar roles.

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CAG does solid when Talon isn't running Goats.

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But they suffer when they swap.

limber pine
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ah I see

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SamuraiD was their main tank

pearl stratus
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I was surprised Talon dropped GOATS at the end of their push.

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Because the more people they swapped off Goats, the worst their push went.

limber pine
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aye

pearl stratus
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I hope GOATS lasts long enough for Season 2.

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Because its fun to watch and its counterplay is even more fun to watch.

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Doomfist gameplay is a great visual for the e-sport.

ruby pendant
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Dynasty 40-0 Season 2!

limber pine
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i mean, Fissure is an upgrade to whatever they had at main tank

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that alone is an upgrade

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i wonder how they'll fill out their bench

pearl stratus
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It's more filling out dps now, Fleta can't stay there alone.

vagrant niche
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hey i felt assleep on the australia match

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who won?

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spain?

limber pine
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🇦🇺

vagrant niche
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YOIKS

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what about china and sweeden?

limber pine
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🇨🇭

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oops

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🇨🇳

vagrant niche
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OOF zaryalol

pearl stratus
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China was favored pretty heavily.

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Not that surprising.

vagrant niche
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wow really?

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they beat reinforce that bad?

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and snillo?

limber pine
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China is rank #1

pearl stratus
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Snillo isn't impressive.

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It's not a tracer meta.

ruby pendant
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Would be cool if Dynasty could get sayaplayer

pearl stratus
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They need a flex, not a Widow.

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In a meta where Widow isn't constant.

vagrant niche
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was was the winning key of china? did they had good dps players? or was sweeden just throwing?

limber pine
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no clue it was 3 AM for me

pearl stratus
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China has a lot of really really good players. Shanghai's Chinese players (minus Diya) just weren't an indication of that.

vagrant niche
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isn't Sky on the chinese team tho?

ruby pendant
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@vagrant niche saw a replay, they were pretty dominant

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all around

pearl stratus
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Yes, but its with people he's comfortable with

ruby pendant
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@pearl stratus Fleta can't be flex dps?

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or is he not good enough?

limber pine
#

are vods of today's matches up yet?

pearl stratus
#

You want two flex now.

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Current meta isn't widow heavy.

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And Fleta is the flex to Widow, no need to double up.

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Ideally they pick up someone who can flex to Brig/Zarya.

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Or Brig/D'va.

limber pine
#

Ado?

pearl stratus
#

Ado is the most likely pick up.

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Zunba "Just hung out" before they signed him.

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So this looks like a repeat.

ruby pendant
limber pine
#

yes

pearl stratus
#

@vagrant niche Also Leave came back for the OWWC.

limber pine
#

gracias

pearl stratus
#

And he's a monster, used to be on MY.

limber pine
#

Can Denmark win against China/Australia/Sweden?

pearl stratus
#

Australia and Sweden maybe.

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I don't see them taking China.

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Australia, while doing well, has some sloppiness they don't seem to be able to shake as I watch Aus. v. Thai right now.

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I expected them to be playing a lot tighter.

ruby pendant
#

Sweden

limber pine
#

I think Thai is playing really well

pearl stratus
#

Thai is 50/50 to me.

limber pine
#

despite match scores

pearl stratus
#

Teetawat is really impressive, so is Patiphan.

limber pine
#

the foundation is there

#

yeah

pearl stratus
#

Pannys or whoever

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Has some NUTTY sleeps.

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But like Oputo and the others are kind of meh.

limber pine
#

Oputo clutched on Hanzo, but that's about it

pearl stratus
#

But its still nice to see a few really solid Thai players.

vagrant niche
#

yo, that thai dps player

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what's his name

pearl stratus
#

Since its a more neglected region.

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Patiphan.

vagrant niche
#

he was really good

#

yes

pearl stratus
#

Kid's 14.

vagrant niche
#

Patiphan

pearl stratus
#

He's a monster.

limber pine
#

also

pearl stratus
#

If he gets a really good coach he'll evolve into something crazy.

limber pine
#

Wolf and Achilios are such underrated casters

pearl stratus
#

Honestly this World Cup has had impressive people on EVERY team, which is nice.

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My issues with Wolf and Achi is they're very monotone. Their content is amazing though.

vagrant niche
#

@limber pine are those from the australia vs spain match?

pearl stratus
#

I've seen 6-7 people I think could be integrated easily into OWL as starters.

#

A few more that could be bench/backup.

limber pine
#

are what from AUS/SPN?

vagrant niche
#

the casters

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wolf and achilios

limber pine
#

they did spain/denmark

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and

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i don't remember what else

pearl stratus
#

They've done contenders forever too, no?

limber pine
#

yeah

pearl stratus
#

If there's call ups to OWL I expect them or ZP+[Someone]

vagrant niche
#

well, who ever did spain vs australia was very good

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ZP belong on OWL not contenders

pearl stratus
#

ZP is really really good at helping develop casters, watching Jake.

vagrant niche
#

him and jake or jamerson are good

#

also

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Brenji was POG

pearl stratus
#

Bren has grown on me.

#

It took some time though.

#

I still think Crumbz and Sideshow can fuck off though.

torpid charm
#

Bren and Sideshow are funny ashell

vagrant niche
#

I always liked Brenji since the start, i remember Phuckett always picked on him

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on the start

pearl stratus
#

Also as much as I like Doa, he's still pretty bad.

vagrant niche
#

Doa and Monte needs to get out

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put ZP in

pearl stratus
#

Monte can stay for content.

torpid charm
#

Bren was like “Sideshow and I won’t ever cast together again because we sound too similar”, here we are now

pearl stratus
#

He's smart about the game, and he does good stuff with Watchpoint-esque formats.

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But his casting leaves somehting to be desired.

limber pine
#

@ruby pendant that link starts at the 3rd match

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btw

vagrant niche
#

also Semmler has gotten my respect

#

he's not a meme anymore

pearl stratus
#

Oh nice.

ruby pendant
#

sorry!!

vagrant niche
#

and his D.Va was godlike

pearl stratus
#

ZP and Jake did Sweden vs. China too.

limber pine
#

lol no worries I wanted to watch the 4th match anywya

pearl stratus
#

ZP does such a good job bringing Jake in line and keeping him from going too long.

vagrant niche
#

ZP needs to be OWL

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he's so good

#

but so were the guys casting australia vs spain

pearl stratus
#

@vagrant niche Btw, Sky in this OWWC match vs. Sweden is crazy different from OWL Sky.

vagrant niche
#

how so?

#

he improved?

limber pine
#

OWL Sky never really got going

#

he rarely played

pearl stratus
#

I wouldnt' say improved, he's playing with comfortable people so he doesn't look as nervous.

#

A few of the OWWC China team are MY, so its old teammates, etc.

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He never settled in the multi-lingual roster, it just confused him to have a language barrier on his tanks.

vagrant niche
#

well that's shangai's fault

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the org that is

pearl stratus
#

But yeah, watching Leave he's definitely carry potential.

vagrant niche
#

you have any good clips?

pearl stratus
#

I'm watching through the match now, just watching him play on Oasis atm.

#

I expected Leave to look a lot more rusty since he "quit"

vagrant niche
#

i'm going to watch that then

#

i was looking forward to it but it was too late

pearl stratus
#

Same.

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Guxue looks solid too, but I want to see his Rein play

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Also Shy I knew was good, LGD did really solid in Contenders.

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And Leave plays Zarya

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Yeaaaah he'll end up on one of the new Chinese teams I'd guess.

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@vagrant niche Have fun on Oasis Map 2.

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It's bananas as hell.

limber pine
#

nice ping

pearl stratus
#

Why are there two of them.

vagrant niche
#

@limber pine wolf and achilious casted spain vs australia

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and those are the guys i was saying they are very good

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they need to be on OWL

pearl stratus
#

Reinforce is doing decently, Tviq is... yeah.

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Basically Tviq looks like Tviq where he's okay, but not a star.

#

And Chips looks like Chips.

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Dead.

limber pine
#

so you're saying I should pay attention to today's first match

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AUS/DEN

pearl stratus
#

...

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I just watched Leave get hacked with a Nanoblade.

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And still get a 3k.

pearl stratus
#

Jake casting with an erection right now because someones playing a Junkrat well.

balmy wolf
#

sweden sucks, delete sweden

pearl stratus
#

Sweden, sadly, has arguably the weakest of the OWL players which hurts them.

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Chips is 2016 out of date, and Tviq isn't a carry dps.

balmy wolf
#

2017 team was great

pearl stratus
#

I mostly mean Chips hasn't been great since OWL started, and continued that into OWWC.

balmy wolf
#

why cant sweden be as strong as they were in csgo

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there aren't many big swedish players anyways

#

sweden wont and wouldnt make it at all with these players

vagrant niche
#

WTF

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that Shy and Leave are playing so good together

#

Sweeden has zero peel for their supports

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sadly chipsha is pretty bad

#

he's washed up DallasFuel rip

pearl stratus
#

It's even crazier when you realize Leave retired like.. a year ago.

#

And just came back to OW.

#

And the kids still fragging like that.

#

Reinforce was playing REALLY well though, but his supports weren't on pace with him imo.

vagrant niche
#

it's talent

pearl stratus
#

His shatters and stuff were really good.

vagrant niche
#

Manateen having very weird bombs

pearl stratus
#

Also Shy is mostly credited as a Zen Ana btw 😛

vagrant niche
#

Sharp himself is not bad

pearl stratus
#

He carried his Sombra over to a DPS role with her changes.

vagrant niche
#

he's doing work

#

but thing is

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they aren't peeling well

pearl stratus
#

They're not handling her at all, it happened during hte other stages too.

#

Whats the biggest thing to me is the way they keep their cool.

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China never panics.

#

Wait till you get to Anubis.

copper solstice
#

Where is wolf and achilious from? Like what do they cast besides This event and the other one.

warped axle
#

Korean contenders

hidden vault
#

I cri we cri

vagrant niche
#

no Fleta

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no Meta

hidden vault
#

basically fuck you felta we don't need you

vagrant niche
#

Fleta is the only reason i would mildly cheer for seoul

hidden vault
#

it's a low key fuck you fleta we don't need you

pearl stratus
#

You have to remember

#

Ryuhejong played with WhoRu and Esca for years.

#

It's comfort more than skill.

#

And Fleta looks like a korean drama villain.

jagged crater
#

curious if seoul had whoru and esca , would they have done better

pearl stratus
#

Not like he'd be fun to hang out with

#

Esca probably not stages 1-3.

#

Whoru? Definitely.

#

Fleta + Whoru would have been monstrous.

#

Fleta basically had to cover two dps slots because Munchkin isn't insane, and Bunny was only Tracer

hidden vault
#

what happened if the moved gido up to DPS though?

#

Gido is supposed to be Tracer Zen

jagged crater
#

i remember gido was tearing it up as tracer back in apex

pearl stratus
#

Gido was a DPS who flexed to support. He's proficient on all the hit scans at a high level.

jagged crater
#

it was when whoru couldnt play or something?

pearl stratus
#

Whoru is 17.

hidden vault
#

and Fleta looks overworked not villianess to me

pearl stratus
#

He won't even be eligible for Season 2.

#

Iirc.

hidden vault
#

Whoru could only play in season 3 of OWL

#

and EscA betrayer lol

pearl stratus
#

If OWL continues on its projected path

jagged crater
#

this was back in apex

pearl stratus
#

Whoru is going to sign for $$$$$$$$$.

jagged crater
#

when lunatic hai put whoru on a time out

pearl stratus
#

I really want Runaway to go to OWL but at the same time I don't.

#

Because it wouldn't be the same Runaway.

#

But they're, by far, my favorite Korean team to watch

jagged crater
#

which incarnation

#

the most recent one?

pearl stratus
#

Current right now in this meta is the most fun to watch imo.

#

Because they were already a team that did some weird ass comps

#

And now all of those comps have merit.

#

So they carry it through so well.

jagged crater
#

was china and sweden favs to win bangkok qualifier?

pearl stratus
#

China Australia.

#

Watching China spank Sweden, I think China will take #1 seed.

jagged crater
#

well now that we've seen china spank sweden like that,

#

but before

pearl stratus
#

Before I thought they would be #1/#2.

#

Almost everyone did.

jagged crater
#

that's why they were the favs

pearl stratus
#

Leave impressed the hell out of me.

jagged crater
#

Australia is blank esports + custa

pearl stratus
#

Guys been retired for what.. a year?

#

Comes back a month or two ago.

#

Just dominates.

jagged crater
#

isnt he crazy young?

hidden vault
#

I wish leave and the MY team would comeback and rival the korean teams lol

pearl stratus
#

Leave? Leaves like 22.

#

Or I may be thinking of someone else.

#

A lot of MY is still 17

hidden vault
#

sky creed

#

creed is still in SHD

jagged crater
#

can u imagine if shanghai was just MY, what a difference that could've made

hidden vault
#

I imagine top 2 teams

#

NYXL vs SHD

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LS vs SHD for play iffs

#

well who knows

jagged crater
#

the difference between an 0-40 team and an above 0.500 team

hidden vault
#

maybe they will got 40-0 instead idk

#

but that's insane so I thinkno

jagged crater
#

captain insano

verbal roost
#

Has any team gone 40-0?

jagged crater
#

in the history of any sport?

verbal roost
#

owl

jagged crater
#

no, not even in pro sports

#

college level yes

verbal roost
#

oh what team?

jagged crater
#

not OW

#

well maybe envyus?

#

online games tho

verbal roost
#

oh ok

jagged crater
#

envyus was on a 57 game winstreak at one point

#

until they lost on lan vs rogue

verbal roost
#

warriors have gone 73-9 before 😄

jagged crater
#

yea and that year they lost championship

#

which is what really matters

verbal roost
#

and then they won two back to back 😄

#

which is what matters currently 😄

jagged crater
#

kevin durant's next chapter

#

😄

verbal roost
#

maybe he might move to LA?

jagged crater
#

lebron and KD would be nutty

verbal roost
vagrant niche
warped axle
jagged crater
#

jeff kaplan is a lakers fan

#

that means we're gonna see sprinkles of lebron around OW

pearl stratus
#

Eh despite not liking Lebron I like what he's done giving back to communities.

#

Could be worse.

#

#DJKhaledNeverAgain

jagged crater
#

another one

long belfry
#

Anotha uan

warped axle
#

AGANE

warped axle
#

I wonder what the longest game win streak was in OWL S1

#

I know Boston had the longest match win streak at 14

#

In Stage 1 Houston had that 18 game win streak

#

because they played the 5 worst teans all in a row zaryalol

frozen perch
#

Ouuuch. Thailand is in last place.

warped axle
#

Tbf Spain only has 1 point more

limber pine
#

But Thailand has looked really good

#

In any other qualifier, their record would be better

#

Their record is fairly misleading

ember jewel
#

The chinese on a coordination level we're yet to see in the world cup

pearl token
#

Their on the fly swaps are top notch

#

When they pulled out the Bastion I lost my mind lol

#

Plus having two players that can murder on Genji just opens up so many more options with that alone

queen drift
#

China wc team actually isn’t bad

gaunt acorn
#

nobody thought they would be, tbh

#

except the people who only knew chinese overwatch via shanghai dragons, i guess

#

china, even with the corruption last year at world cup, still did alright

#

they certainly have talented players

queen drift
#

Ye I’d never really followed Chinese ow

gaunt acorn
#

i suppose this is a better introduction than 0-40

queen drift
#

Think they’ll get picked up? Or is China too much of a meme in owl rn

gaunt acorn
#

there's 4 chinese teams now

#

i'm convinced at least one of them will go for a full-chinese roster

#

the other 2/3 will probably be mixed chinese/korean

#

and i think one might go full-korean

#

but i also think the top chinese talent will get spots, certainly

ruby pendant
#

China world cup team is better than Dragons?

queen drift
#

Much

gaunt acorn
#

@ruby pendant yes, much better

#

even the 2016 & 2017 chinese world cup teams were better than shanghai

ruby pendant
#

lol

gaunt acorn
#

the bar isn't too high, honestly

#

you could probably argue team thailand this year looks better than shanghai

#

but that's not to discount china -- as i said above, there's no doubt they have talent

warped axle
#

Team China looks better than the Houston Outlaws lmao

queen drift
#

Also not hard

gaunt acorn
zenith patio
#

AND

#

audio is low again. >_<

forest wharf
#

how

limber pine
#

----------------------------------------------------
Day 2 of the Overwatch World Cup: Bangkok Qualifier is live in 2 minutes!

TODAY'S MATCHES:
10:00 AM ICT: 🇦🇺 Australia vs Denmark 🇩🇰
11:45 PM ICT: 🇨🇳 China vs Thailand 🇹🇭
1:30 PM ICT: 🇸🇪 Sweden vs Australia 🇦🇺
3:15 PM ICT: 🇩🇰 Denmark vs China 🇨🇭
5:00 PM ICT: 🇪🇸 Spain vs Sweden 🇸🇪

Join #esports-discussion for live chat of the games!

Watch live at:
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Full schedule:
🗓 https://worldcup.playoverwatch.com/en-us/

tawny sigil
#

im ready for the ear rape 2018 OW edition

zenith patio
#

Ear rape by silence

tawny sigil
#

working fine for me

zenith patio
#

I have to turn the speaker up to even hear

forest wharf
#

fine for now

limber pine
#

aus/den should be a good one

#

we'll see how good denmark actually is

tawny sigil
#

IT BEGINS

serene tendon
#

oh yay

#

audio fuckery has returned for day 2

tawny sigil
#

guess they didnt fire people

#

they just tortured them

limber pine
#

nothing to change

#

you can't fire and hire new ppl day 2 of a 3 day tournament

tawny sigil
#

SOUND BARRIER ACTIVATED

serene tendon
#

they boosted audio

#

lmao

zenith patio
#

Wow

#

It looks like they HEARD US

#

FINALLY

forest wharf
#

suddenly way louder

#

lol at zp just sitting there watching jake talk

serene tendon
#

can you blame him

forest wharf
#

akm blade>ckm blade?

serene tendon
#

rip sound barrier

forest wharf
#

you'd think after 2 blade cancels that they would switch off genji

tawny sigil
#

dayum

serene tendon
#

OI OI OI

#

what a boop

zenith patio
#

what in the world is going on with the audio lol

#

it's cutting out

warped axle
#

Audio NotLikeSoldier

zenith patio
#

omg

#

audio please

#

is there a storm there or something???

gaunt acorn
#

no, just bad production

zenith patio
#

Someone please get Mercy on the audo

gaunt acorn
#

it was even worse yesterday, believe me

zenith patio
#

Audio needs HEALING

#

I NEED HEALING

tawny sigil
#

did nano boost used to increase fire rate?

limber pine
#

yes

serene tendon
#

BZZZZZ

limber pine
#

nano-boosted sombra sounds like hair clippers

serene tendon
#

nano sombra is scary

zenith patio
#

DAMN

#

Sombra's hacking the stream right now

#

audio is EVERYWHERE

warped axle
#

Akraken has slept Nerfdd soooo much

hidden vault
#

@zenith patio dude get lucio instead

warped axle
#

Shax and Fischer are an insane DPS pair

#

What is it with Denmark and good DPS players?

zenith patio
#

@hidden vault Oh snap you're right

#

We need lucio on audio stat

#

He'd probably have a heartattack once he sees the monkeys running stream audio

hidden vault
#

Thailand Monkeys

#

tropical region

#

so yes probably

serene tendon
#

denmark is clean

warped axle
#

Shax is whack

tawny sigil
#

australia is u wot m8?

forest wharf
#

jake actually losing his breath from talking lol

stuck agate
#

im so glad jake looks more comfortable in his role

#

he looked so stiff and awkward first time around \

zenith patio
#

audi please

#

what in the world

tawny sigil
#

JAKE... JAKE

sullen berry
#

I can't wait for more hot mics during intervals

#

Also when jake and ZP were being messed with production with the preview schedule and fake out four times in a row

tawny sigil
#

rip aussie mens

zenith patio
#

I swear, I feel like the audio keeps swimming in the ocean

#

It's like underwater at times

limber pine
#

soooo

#

Denmark/Sweden should be a fun map tomorrow

rapid bobcat
#

Wait, australia lost to kellex?

#

Denmark beat australia? Wowee

limber pine
#

yup

#

but Denmark has tied a map and lost 3 maps

#

so they could very well only lose 1 match and be eliminated on map score

#

still

serene tendon
#

is calling a c9 a charlie nine a way to make cloud 9 feel better?

dusk hinge
#

It’s more professional that way

gaunt acorn
#

@serene tendon the cool kids call it a letter number

serene tendon
#

yeah i like the professional version

#

also yay thailand

#

zen/lucio heals KaplanThink

pearl token
#

D11

sullen berry
#

This is fantastic matchup

#

The David vs goliath of owl investment

verbal roost
#

Nano no longer speeds up fire rate?

sullen berry
#

Since it was originally nerfed, it doesn't now

verbal roost
#

Ok

pearl token
#

Thailand is really giving Leave a rough time

#

Kind of impressed

tawny sigil
#

A DVA bomb can break my bones, but an emp won't stop me from beating you down.

#

what has mickie done in the past to deserve such bad teams

#

same him from the world!

pearl token
#

This Patiphan kid

sullen berry
#

Patiphan is a savior of Contenders pacific

#

And so was dep from team japan

pearl token
#

I mean could you imagine, if these younger players continue to have interest and the league goes long enough for them to join...how unreal theyll be by then

visual glen
#

Sombra anti-fun reap

pearl token
#

Paused

#

The sombra meta is pretty fun lol

#

To watch at least

#

I mean overall actually this is such solid stuff to watch. So much variety. Not going into watching expecting the dive or mirror crap

sullen berry
#

When bren and sideshow have game pauses, they try not to physically choke each other in public

#

It's great banter

pearl token
#

Lol

serene tendon
#

sombras taken control of audio again

tawny sigil
#

omg make the pause stop

#

SOUND ISSUES FOR THE PLAYERS WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

zenith patio
#

SOUND ISSUES?

#

OH my goodnes.

#

I never imagined we had that!

#

GASPS

#

Sombra, stop hacking the audio please

pearl token
#

Gotta say that pause was kinda bs

#

And I wouldnt have said that if the casters didnt mention China called for a timeout

#

Like what hell is that

#

If that was an actual option that was known im sure Agilities wouldve called one when he played a whole map with his Interact unbound

upper niche
#

Thailand are beating China... and China just added 3 OWL teams. hmmmm.

stoic zephyr
#

What’s up with every team buying Seoul subs

#

Fl mayhem bought xepher, valiant bought Kiki

#

Like what else?

#

They are better subs out there....

serene tendon
#

thailand owning

stoic zephyr
#

Danteh, Tobi, Hotba/Poko and Fragi

#

Oof is mickie doing good

serene tendon
#

yes

pearl token
#

Kiki is gonna ride the bench all season if the Valiant are anything like S1

#

They pretty much rolled the starting 6 the whole time and especially with Fate/Space

toxic yacht
pearl token
#

Lol theyre temp banning in chat for the pause copypasta

#

source: was banned for 600 seconds

serene tendon
#

holy shit pat is 15

zenith patio
#

Wait seriously??

serene tendon
#

THAILAND

#

HOLY SHIT

#

THEY DID IT

zenith patio
#

WOOO

#

They actually beat China

pearl token
#

Holy crap

zenith patio
#

And here I thought China was unstoppable

pearl token
#

That was unreal

serene tendon
#

2-2

#

reverse sweep please

pearl token
#

^

zenith patio
#

How do they determine the score BTW?

tawny sigil
#

too bad patiphan cant get a career for another 3 years

pearl token
#

Seriously

#

Thats what i mean though about how ridiculously godlike he might be when he finally does

tawny sigil
#

birds are flying side ways

#

they never gonna fix those birds

serene tendon
#

is flow3r eligible yet?

tawny sigil
#

yes

#

he turned 18 in may i think it was

serene tendon
#

hes on xl2 right?

ruby pendant
#

wow 2-2!!

pearl token
#

They need Patiphan on something he can get multiple kills

#

Not damn Tracer

serene tendon
#

"15 year old little legend" lmao

pearl token
#

Loll

gritty sparrow
#

Play this in quarter speed
Pause at 8 seconds - Libero has concussive blasted himself into optimal Barrage position
Pause at 9 seconds - Zappis has recognized the signs of an imminent Barrage and begins flying at Libero
Pause just before 10 seconds - Both Libero and Zappis are out of the frame, above
Pause AT 10 seconds - you see Libero dropping straight down, back into frame, and then pop Barrage
The patience is remarkable
He recognized the incoming D.Va, and waited on the Barrage. He lays off the hover jets and drops one body-length down, forcing Zappis to overshoot him. Zappis is now behind him with no matrix and no booster. Then, Libero pops the Barrage
Incredible Pharah play that in full speed goes completely unnoticed

serene tendon
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rip the dream

gritty sparrow
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I know this match is from much earlier, but in doing my video analysis I got way too excited about this small little play that I had to share

pearl token
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Damn it

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Man after that match its a shame theyre 0-3

serene tendon
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especially painful since theyre the home team

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i love how wrecking ball swinging in a circle on point is a genuine strat

serene tendon
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ckm phara 😩

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what a game

visual glen
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Sweden ain't going to blizzcon

serene tendon
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rip sweden

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what a combo

hidden vault
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Akm and Ckm friends?

gaunt acorn
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akm is actually his father

hidden vault
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then he should play hitscan

serene tendon
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punk bomb pogchimp

hidden vault
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projectile scum

gaunt acorn
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he can play hitscan

serene tendon
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ckm is really good

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but you whiff 1 blade and now youre "CKM BLADE zaryalol " for life

visual glen
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Dat death blossom tho

serene tendon
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noice

hidden vault
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I bet bkm is the better one

sullen berry
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casters this group stage is more comforting to watch after knowing these guys on the desk casting together

limber pine
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I’d love to see Denmark got to Blizzcon

vagrant niche
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so is Sweeden total garbage?

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lol that's going to look bad on reinforce

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it's a shame we can have Patiphan on a pro team

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that kid is so talented and good

sullen berry
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reinforce can make the defense that it was a highly competitive group stage

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but it doesn't help they couldn't do anything with contenders players coming in cold

pearl stratus
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I'll never get bored of this play.

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Guxue is my favorite player to watch in this bracket.

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This bracket actually is more studded with people who could be in OWL than the last one. You knew all about Brazil etc.

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Actually...

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We might actually get a real chinese OWL team.

frozen perch
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I heard Jake was casting

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anyone knows for what match(s)?

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oh day 1

sullen berry
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day 2 also

pearl stratus
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Jake did a good job, thanks to ZP.

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I'll also never get over Jake being so happy with Leave in China vs. Sweden when Leave was playing Junkrat.

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Jake was just so happy.

pearl token
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His hands have a voice of their own

long belfry
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#SeagullForS2Caster

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Seagull would be a great caster imo

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Or have him in the desk

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With Reinforce

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And have you ever watched his stream?

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He does talk

dusk hinge
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I think China can make it to top 8 like last year

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But I don’t think there going to make top 4

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They’re cutting it pretty close with 2 game fives

fleet lance
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Canada needs to pull it together