What do you mean?
#esports-discussion
hidden vault
tawny sigil
omg stop trolling
hidden vault
Would you mind explaining lpl
tawny sigil
"stop trolling... what do you mean"
i was expecting that
you know what watchpoint is?
in OWL
limber pine
Blizz or the Watchpoint crew hasn't given any indication that Watchpoint won't be back
and it was popular. I'd hardly call it "trimming the fat"
and idk what shanghai's boosted means
tawny sigil
well if they start to cut stuff i'd think that would be one of the first
tawny sigil
but that's probably not likely at this point
limber pine
we still don't really have any confirmation that they're trimming anything really
just a lot of rumors at this point
tawny sigil
i expect season 2 to be exactly the same, nothing new nothing removed
and if the views are not higher than before i'd guess season 3 they start to cut stuff
hidden vault
Ok what the hack is watch point?
limber pine
the preshow
hidden vault
The only watchpoint I've heard related to overwatch is Watchpoint Gibraltar...
tawny sigil
watchpoint recap and watchpoint preview at the start and end of a week every week
tawny sigil
watch the entire season and missed every single one of them?
hidden vault
This is good stuff
But I don't think they are gonna cut it lol
Sports has this, they won't cut it if they want esports close like sports
tawny sigil
yeah only way this goes is if it doesn't become a standard for esport
pearl stratus
Watchpoint was your OWL equivalent to something akin to a Sportscenter.
It was popular, it had solid view count.
They won't drop it.
With the hiring they did for internal stuff you'll probably find them adding more 'traditional' sports things. They have NBA execs, ESPN execs, etc.
tawny sigil
watchpoint needs to infiltrate espn
pearl stratus
With the broadcasting deal with Disney it could, but it'd be relegated out to ESPN3 most likely.
They already talk about OWL quite a bit on 3, if I'm not mistaken.
tawny sigil
how many espn do they have
pearl stratus
There's a bunch, they started subdividing by content.
ESPN2
ESPN3
ESPNews
ESPNU
ESPN on ABC
ESPN Deportes
ESPN Classic
Longhorn Network
SEC Network
ACC Network
ESPN Goal Line & Bases Loaded
ESPN UK
But again, they're owned by Disney.
And Disney has broadcasting rights to OWL right now.
tawny sigil
shanghai gonna end up on ESPN Deportes 
pearl stratus
So it can end up.. anywhere.
copper solstice
I thought owl been on espn though
pearl stratus
The finals were.
This conversation was more geared towards watchpoint.
Which is seasonal.
copper solstice
Still close enough so far
pearl stratus
So I doubt it would be on main ESPN - you wouldn't want it to compete with football etc.
copper solstice
I know the one thing was broadcasted on Disney XD
copper solstice
Yeah, which disneyxd is pretty much the kids espn or was Atleast
The teens Disney
pearl stratus
We'll see if they do TV or stick to stream.
The problem with TV Broadcast minus very small things is you lose token viewers.
copper solstice
Probobly with espn you’ll probobly have to try to get it exclusive with them before they say “ok sureL
pearl stratus
If Mickey tells you what he wants
copper solstice
Nothing else
pearl stratus
You grab your ankles and do it.
Disney owns pretty much everything media related in the US, if they say ESPN airs it, ESPN will air it.
It's not even a slight majority ownership.
Disney owns legit 80% of ESPN.
copper solstice
Soon enough, there will be a espn channel just for esports
pearl stratus
You can use 2/3 for that, I doubt it needs its own channel honestly.
There's not enough viewable e-sport content that you'd want on main tv.
Right now it'd be OWL and LoL.
copper solstice
I remember when g2 tv was a thing
pearl stratus
Beyond that its too much minor stuff, with too little structure.
pearl stratus
My guess would be, if they want to broadcast/stream it, they want it franchised because otherwise its too volatile and unstable.
In terms of channels like ESPN/Disney.
copper solstice
Yeah, into its brand or something
pearl stratus
Well more like... take Contenders for instance.
I'd only broadcast the finals.
Other teams come and go too often.
copper solstice
Rip LNL
pearl stratus
It'd be confusing to most average viewers who weren't super into the esport.
OWL/LoL have players locked into contracts, minus trades etc.
It's easier for your standard viewer to follow.
Stuff doesn't change too much other than meta.
tawny sigil
seasons will be unwatchable for me if they get more team and they start having matches at the same time
pearl stratus
Also as stupid as this sound - team branding is huge for viewers. You may not know who.. Surefour is.
But you know the Purple.
copper solstice
Yeah, I know paladins (curse me for saying that outloud on overwatch discord) they have contracts and such which are on Facebook only which ded because of that
pearl stratus
Yeah but you can contract all 6 people who play Paladins, its never gotten huge.
copper solstice
Yep, like max view count at there lans now is like 5k
pearl stratus
Even OW right now is back on a small up-surge with the current meta (minus ladder main tanks).
Pretty overall open meta at the pro-level.
Really only 1-2 heroes that don't get used.
In terms of viewers its probably the best its been for pro-play in OWWC.
I think the only thing we haven't seen much of in the brackets right now is what.. Torb and Reaper?
Minus Mangachu Torb, which everyone expects.
Also, in my opinion, thanks to OWL we get to really see non-traditional names/countries who are really shining when they play against these pros.
copper solstice
Sym in owl season 1
pearl stratus
Yeah but I'm talking about current meta.
pearl stratus
Shes been on a few maps for OWWC so far
Nothing crazy, but its thee.
*there.
Watch USA vs. Switzerland on Hanamura.
Zacharee Bastion + Sinatraa Symmetra.
It's hilarious.
Everytime Switzerland goes to approach the bastion and collapse on him they teleport him to a new spot.
Then for the next push the bastions in a new random spot.
I don't think it will translate over to OWL, but I see it staying as a thing in Contenders where there's a bit more room for mistakes and weird comps.
copper solstice
Yeah, it’s more like a pocket thing anyways I think well in OWWC
pearl stratus
But my point was more as an e-sport this is a good time for them to promote it as the meta really opened up and its more entertaining for viewers than static dive dive dive dive.
GOATS may be a stupid easy comp.
But its, from a viewer standpoint, a fun one.
And its variable, so you can see different dps in it.
limber pine
somebody will pull out sym/bastion in OWL next season
but it'll be a wierd play like
'The Great Bamboozle'
and then it'll never happen again
hidden vault
Torb will probably get played after his re work lol (hopefully)
hidden vault
Source?
soft jetty
@narrow summitofthoughts on twitter
pearl stratus
Yeah, rumor mill still.
hidden vault
Architect leaving sfs would make sense for rascal coming in though
pearl stratus
But with LFZ looking to get picked up the concept of a Korean team from China gets less stigma behind it.
Since LFZ is Korean.
pearl stratus
The coach going LFT looks like coaching may have been the big terms thing though.
soft jetty
the coach went lft?
hidden vault
But no team is pickkmg RUI amd MY?
pearl stratus
No rumors about them yet.
soft jetty
ive only seen rumors about KR teams
pearl stratus
RUI also is potentially retired.
His illness is no joke.
Spondylosis is a degenerative spinal condition
The amount of sitting/working for OWL probably isn't sustainable.
soft jetty
thats sad man
narrow summit
Did you mean to tag me?
hidden vault
But china OWWC coach?
soft jetty
china 
narrow summit
hidden vault
What is he thinking
pearl stratus
OWWC has a lot of downtime, and its a short event overall
It's not 7 months.
You do your qualifiers then you have what.. two months to Blizzcon?
pearl stratus
Well he's not technically.
He said part of the issue was his medical coverage in the US was expensive and not accessible.
He's back in China for most of it now.
hidden vault
Unless seeking medical care in the US
I see
Remote coaching from china hmm
Probably would have do that for bilzzcon
pearl stratus
It depends on frequency of appointment etc.
I would assume.
But all hypothetical either way.
hidden vault
Btw why did you think cloud 9 did not pick up void and wakawaka?
pearl stratus
Because Void didn't try out because he was hanging out with his girlfriend.
hidden vault
Are you serious?
pearl stratus
He was picked up by c9 for London Spitfire, but they ran into disagreements where void wanted to facilitate spending time with his girlfriend and more because he took time off scrims to spend time with his girlfriend too often, so he just decided not to hop onboard
Basically the tl;dr is he was whipped.
And missed being on London.
soft jetty
wait waht is that for?
spitfire getting new players?
theyre the c9 team
wait thats old as fuck
thats why im confused
lul
pearl stratus
Yeah Nice was asking about why C9 hadn't picked up Void/Etc in season 1.
And I just remember stupid shit, lol
Such as not joining the OWL because you want to spend time with your girlfriend.
hidden vault
Yeah I was asking
And wakawaka wanted to play on seoul lol
But he retired anyways 🤷
In the end Fury and NUS worked out great for them
soft jetty
fury is the best dva in the league i think
hidden vault
I'd say space but everyone has their point
queen drift
how old is that LOL
pearl stratus
About a year or so, give or take.
And I'd say right now Space is, but I think Fate and Space don't have the synergy of other teams tank duos since they're so new.
New to working together, thatis.
hidden vault
Space and Fate work better together, agree. But thats the synergy/mesh thing. Synergy can't account for a lot of ability.
I quote you
pearl stratus
That was versus the previous LAV off-tank though.
Since we were talking specifically about Envy on LAV.
Fate+Space is much better than Fate+Envy ever were.
But Fate+Space aren't close to Mano+Meko, or Muma+Matt.
hidden vault
Fate+Envy had more time with Fate+Space though
pearl stratus
Yeah, but they still didn't sync well.
Fate+Space have a lot of room to grow, I'm not disagreeing with that
But right now while I think Space is probably the best D'va in the league I wouldn't say those two are the best duo.
If it was the older meta I'd say Meko is better than Space. But NYXL/SK isn't doing as well in this meta compared to Dive
hidden vault
Basically Mano+Meko and Muma+Matt are the only old duos that stuck. The rest are newly formed duos during league time
pearl stratus
Spitfire kept their duo as well.
I'd argue Gamsu+NotE as well, they're pretty solid. Bostons problems were mostly DPS based.
But they didn't exist pre-OWL.
So thats a hard call.
hidden vault
Nahh GC was Gesture+Woohyal kongdo was Fissure+Void
Gesture+Fury was league time
XQC+Note
Best main tank Fate?
pearl stratus
In which situation - OWL or OWWC, or just in general?
Because there's also a ton of Contenders tanks that are insane.
Panker, for instance.
hidden vault
You can call all 3 if you want
Why was panker picked for OWL1?
Age?
He's speculated to move up to glads anyways
pearl stratus
In current meta? Fate or Gesture, I'm tied between the two because I haven't seen Gesture play as much Goats type stuff.
pearl stratus
For dive? Mano. Because Dive is entirely based around your team coordination, and Mano had Meko with him and their synergy was just noticeably better than everyone.
It's also how you noticeably see NYXL fall off when Dive stops working.
I honestly don't think Koreans play this current meta that well, I think both Canada and USA have a solid shot at OWWC.
hidden vault
It's USA then
pearl stratus
Depends, there's two months and Canada didn't make a lot of mistakes.
If they can shore up those mistakes it'll be very close.
Their biggest issues were xQc + NotE synergy, and adaptability.
But they have the talent for it.
hidden vault
It's two months for SK to close things uo too
pearl stratus
Provided nothing changes meta wise between now and then Canada has the better Sombra too.
Which is huge.
hidden vault
After their lost with runaway, I would hardly see them not too
pearl stratus
Surefour is just better than Hydration at her.
hidden vault
They totally should have picked Dante lol
pearl stratus
I think they made the right call with Hydration, but Hydration is Hydration.
He's a bit like Taimou.
His lows are lows, but his highs are REALLY high.
hidden vault
Hydration plays sombra when Surefour plays sombra? Really?
pearl stratus
Well previously to this meta it didn't overlap.
Because Surefour was on Widow.
Hydration was their Sombra through most of the stages.
hidden vault
I would see sombra as more for the tracer/hitscan dps
pearl stratus
I mean historically Sombra was for your second support.
hidden vault
I would probably pick dante over sintraa
pearl stratus
I wouldn't - just for the reasons we saw when USA played Canada
Sinatraa has an interestingly big pool, but it leans more towards the tank side.
Which is rare in a lot of DPS.
His Zarya is ridiculous, his Rein was really good.
But then he could quickly swap back to a Doomfist.
I wouldn't be surprised if Aero has Sinatraa grinding Sombra.
So he can run Sinatraa + Zacharee.
As a standard Sombra + Fist, with the options for Sinatraa to rotate to Brig/Zarya.
hidden vault
Speaking of which why isn't Zacharee in owl.
hidden vault
Professional Athletes do not have age llimits
I hope they would do away with that
It does feel kind of un fair
Zacharee to Houston
I don't know I just see it coming
pearl stratus
Actually they do.
For instance to join the NBA you have to be 19.
Technically the NFL requires you to be out of high school for 3 years, but doesn't set an "age" requirement.
hidden vault
So age limits are only for lesgues?
pearl stratus
Yeah, then you get things like the Olympics (which is the OWWC equivalent) which is loser than those being paid for the sport.
Age requirements tend to be about: legality of the person in question; their future. Even if you're a one and done college athlete (one year of college then you go pro) you've at least started an education should you fail horribly.
Olympics iirc is 16.
hidden vault
Wait I always thought Olympics doesn't have one nvm
pearl stratus
No, its gone up over time according to their website. It was 14 forever ago, then moved to 15, then 16.
hidden vault
Hmm gone up
pearl stratus
Science for this stuff changes, reminds me of baseball pitchers. They suggest most pitchers don't even throw curveballs at young ages now, because it can really fuck with their development, etc.
Then they swapped it to fast balls, etc, etc
hidden vault
Damn I didn't know curveball affects
pearl stratus
It's never been solidified, then swapped to fastballs, etc. Science isn't always right, just changing. And most rules adapt to that. Like how the NFL has the head collision stuff now, but it leads to more knee injuries.
hidden vault
I see
dusk hinge
When does the World Cup start
dusk hinge
It should have started I think
torpid charm
It doesn’t start till later
torpid charm
Idk, it starts 8pm PST which is 11pm for me because EST
https://www.over.gg/event/221/world-cup-2018 this might help @dusk hinge
limber pine
Yup same as SK
torpid charm
I’m pulling an all nighter to watch the games, I don’t have class tomorrow so no sleep won’t hurt me
copper solstice
i really want ot watch just swedens matches but i dont want to stay up until 10am
but i will watch them when i go to sleep
queen drift
no OWL updates? 😭
torpid charm
On weekends during Season 1, I would try to stay up and watch the matches but I always ended up falling asleep.
I’ve only ever missed matches because I fell asleep. Other than that I’m watching eeeeeverything
gaunt acorn
im the opposite
i only missed matches when i slept in
usually i'd wake up and it'd be ongoing at 2-1 or something
mostly only matches for teams like shock or mayhem
ruby pendant
This upcoming world cup group stage looks decent, might be more competitive than last 2 group stages?
balmy wolf
@limber pine idk if you follow Tespa, but keep an eye on ASU and Maryland
they have very healthy OD-competing teams
that BU's bleeple scouts
balmy wolf
very much so
they both qualified for T3 through OD
UH's current team is much better than before but tbh theyre still much better
ruby pendant
lol, Valiant desperate
molten skiff
doesnt valiant already have the best main tank in the league
hidden vault
I suspect they want the colour change for it to be more reflective of their organisation?
I really prefer the skins to be more customisable
For the chracters
Instead of having say a deviant of the classic skin in 3 colour priorities
Look at valiant they have a nice helmet as a logo that's a potential legendary skin for the team
gaunt acorn
@hidden vault makes no sense
because fusion's current colours literally do reflect their organization
it's the same colours as the philadelphia flyers
owned by the same company, comcast-spectacor
so idk why they'd wanna change their iconic orange/black/white
also, the purple of the gladiators is possibly the best part of their branding
it's a lot better than their actual logo
and i don't think we're getting owl legendaries
gaunt acorn
the only team that should be changing their colour is mayhem
hidden vault
8 other colours is alot to fill, there maybe another purple that challenges the glads
But I'm surprised that any of the organisations wanted a change
I thought that would be communicated before owl
Fusion's colour is the least striking and largery overshadowed my shock
I would suspect they may go for a brighter orange
hidden vault
Yes maybe something that mix well with white
long belfry
I want a Black and White skin
long belfry
Black with a little bit of white accents would look nice
ruby pendant
@molten skiff Gesture says hi!!!
hidden vault
Colour changes, we don't know the the extend of the colour changes they asked for @gaunt acorn (and if it is true)
copper solstice
i dont remember kuki playing?
long belfry
It would be classy af
copper solstice
is kuki a person who was benched for like whole thing
long belfry
He played when Miro was bad
gaunt acorn
kuki played quite a few times
ruby pendant
33 mins left!
long belfry
Or may I say when he stopped being good
gaunt acorn
also, overshadowed by shock?
everyone i know thinks philly has the better shade of orange
shock has a ghastly eye-melting orange
combined with... grey
philly branding is a lot better than shock
gaunt acorn
maybe for a new team
hidden vault
For the legendary overwatch league skin, for teams that's just my wishful thinking, 🤷 some characters would seriously look this in valiant's helmet
copper solstice
Yeah theres some people in season 1 who i dont even remember being in it
then again i didnt keep track of dynasty
hidden vault
Branding is a thing, but I do fill philly's colour alittle dull
Just brigitten it up alittle would be great
limber pine
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limber pine
This qualifier will actually be the best so far
clear crane
yea u got the favs in chian and sweden but all the other teams can easily steal a spot
tawny sigil
is there a highlight of Effect walking on stage and looking straight ahead and not highfiving anyone
people always complain its bad time for them in europe... what is everyone in europe doing not being awake at 5am to watch this
dont kill me soe please im sorry
my ears
tawny sigil
its peaking like crazy
copper solstice
Wait the thing is tonight
ruby pendant
@tawny sigil not sure, personally waiting for China vs Sweden match
tawny sigil
or everyone is confuse and think its tommorow
i thought it was tommorow... i had a flash of genius 5 minute before it starts
copper solstice
You are probobly thinking American time zones
tawny sigil
yes i was
copper solstice
Same here.
ruby pendant
yea was only reminded by the comments here, think Overwatch can do better to advertise.
forest wharf
theyve done like 0 marketing for the world cup
forest wharf
aus should be good too
tawny sigil
mickey is on thailand?
forest wharf
idk about the rest
tawny sigil
ho yeah he is im blind
ABSOLUTE MAD LAD
lower the volume please
let me increase mine instead
my volume is at freaking 5%
copper solstice
I enjoy the EU casters
tawny sigil
bren went ape shit
tawny sigil
its bren and side show
forest wharf
oof mickie dva
tawny sigil
ez clap i guess
forest wharf
this green screen/lighting tho
copper solstice
Not another breakdown
tawny sigil
someone on the sound team is gonna get fired
peaking, wrong music, music volume too low too high
all over the place
copper solstice
Next there going to put dva voice lines at max
copper solstice
Best sound guy ever 
torpid charm
@gaunt acorn I just woke up and I’m baffled by the color change request
tawny sigil
someone is gonna get fired so bad
forest wharf
ummm? now you can only hear casters
copper solstice
I want to hear the game too
forest wharf
the korean stage production was kinda shit too, but not nearly this bad
copper solstice
Paris is probobly going to be good
forest wharf
no in game audio this whole round
oh, they brought it back for overtime....
kinda
forest wharf
literally fucking up the audio in every way...how
mental cliff
They didn’t mute the casters mics during the interview.
“What’s widowmakers ult called again?” He whispers.
serene tendon
goldenboy was hosting a battlefield thing the other day, they left his mic on while he was in the bathroom
solid few seconds of pee sounds
tawny sigil
now its only 1 ear sound... most annoying thing ever... worst than peaking sound
now no sound
fucking bronze sound crew
forest wharf
better than if it was shitting sounds lol
serene tendon
they need to balance the audio
tawny sigil
you think?
serene tendon
just a tad
tawny sigil
FUCK IT WE'L DOO IT LIVE
vast geode
sound crew keeps finding ways to make us cringe
tawny sigil
lets see what they come up with next
vast geode
audio cuts out completely
forest wharf
well theres still this green screen
tawny sigil
cant think of anything else... they fucked up pretty much everything that could be fucked
vast geode
well at least sound production fixed
forest wharf
In game audio is still fuckedp
vast geode
2CP 
vast geode
Patiphan owl worthy if not best in his team?
forest wharf
mickie going brig, tryhard mode activated
vast geode
Im not sure if Thailand is terrible or just inconsistent
forest wharf
its possible every asian country besides korea just sucks at overwatch
serene tendon
now the game audio is louder then the casters 
pearl stratus
Fun new leaks are SDB is having a pretty hard time finding a team and not getting much offers because teams are looking more at team culture over individual star talent.
forest wharf
im still waiting for team comms to leak
vast geode
feelsbadman
forest wharf
at this point its pretty much the only audio thing they havent fucked up
tawny sigil
might not be possible
serene tendon
audi pls
forest wharf
slowly gets quieter...lol
serene tendon
IT KEEPS GOING
vagrant niche
Thai production
forest wharf
is it that hard to move volume sliders?
lyric pivot
Denmark can't win without shitty Goats
serene tendon
how can this even happen
lyric pivot
omegalul
forest wharf
its been fucked the whole game so far
zenith patio
Twitch should be spammed with comments about audio right now
serene tendon
did anyone else see the cursor
lyric pivot
lol they've been going on about the audio issue for the entire broadcast. No, no one is fucking reading it. They're probably too dumb to notice despite the 19k people saying "Your audio is bad!"
zenith patio
And this is supposed to be streamed on ESPN3 and DisneyXD
forest wharf
its been 99% comments about audio since the stream started lol
vast geode
10% of chat - Actually about the game itself
zenith patio
What the hell kind of production
vast geode
90% - NA AUDIO OMEGALUL
lyric pivot
No, that's bangsuck audio lol.
forest wharf
its just an audio slider at this point
zenith patio
I can't hear a damn thing
serene tendon
and people complained about OWL production
forest wharf
like how
vagrant niche
even when is another country, people say NA ult
vast geode
OWL production was for the most part fine
serene tendon
@vagrant niche they probably think NA refers to Not Applicable which i did at first too
vagrant niche
vast geode
ppl saying EU AUDIO too
lyric pivot
OWL production has been better than the slowest, most boring meta that OW is currently using.
vagrant niche
Brenji and sidethrow casting for no reason now
lyric pivot
And most teams can't win without it, which is fucking sad
forest wharf
the casters may as well stop talking at this point
lyric pivot
They have a monkey working audio
serene tendon
this is really bad actually
how do you mess this up
is there only like
1 guy working audio?
lyric pivot
probably
zenith patio
Is it possible to tweet this at Overwatch or something?
This is just sad at this point
vagrant niche
i'm surprised they don't have someone watching the stream
otherwise they would know
unless that person designated to watch it is not really watching it
forest wharf
now no audio at all lol
serene tendon
again
serene tendon
HES TURNING IT THE WRONG WAY
vagrant niche
forest wharf
got better for a second there....
cant even pay attention to this game because im so distracted by this shit audio
serene tendon
its so funny
zenith patio
hahah
SO
How's everyone doing this afternoon? Since there's no point inwatching the stream now
serene tendon
turned down again
forest wharf
well they are at a hotel
serene tendon
im eating froot loops out the bag with a spoon, so lifes pretty good, almost midnight here
vagrant niche
i really should go to bed
forest wharf
this is an asmr stream now
zenith patio
You can watch Reinforce play
In Overwatch: ASMR mode
This is why Esports can't be taken seriously. XD If something as simple as audio production can't be done correctly, then all hope is lost
vagrant niche
finally
forest wharf
inb4 they turn the sliders all the way down again
zenith patio
This is too loud. My poor sensitive ears
forest wharf
oh god its getting quieter again
serene tendon
bye bye audio
forest wharf
so we taking bets on how many games it takes before audio gets fixed
im going with map 4 of sweden vs china
vagrant niche
WTF was that???
forest wharf
annnnddddd its gone
zenith patio
I WANT MY REFUND BLIZZARD
... oh wait. This is a free stream
Does someone here know anyone who is in the audience???
forest wharf
BLIZZCON VIRTUAL TICKET NOW REQUIRED FOR AUDIO
forest wharf
woo one game down with ded audio
vagrant niche
the fact that some folks actually buy a ticket for a stream
zenith patio
GUYS
WAIT WAIT
Oh there we go
DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT?
Thailand for a bit actuallly WON
forest wharf
?
limber pine
yeah it was a close match
zenith patio
It was quickly replaced by Denmark.
hahah
The production quality is freaking amazing
serene tendon
hot mics
pearl stratus
Patiphan is kind of a tiny monster.
limber pine
cool story
zenith patio
Serioulsy though, what in the world is with the audio
forest wharf
amazing interview, very well said
vagrant niche
zenith patio
I don't even think the mic is on right now. They're just picking this up from the lavalier mic
serene tendon
SOUND 
vagrant niche
Patiphan is pretty good
forest wharf
i give it 2 mins before its silent again
vagrant niche
Too late
vagrant niche
OMEGA
serene tendon
i swear if chat spamming "TOO LOUD" is what makes them turn it down again im gonna cry
zenith patio
Because of course they'll believe Twitch chat
Without actually testing if it's true or not
vagrant niche
someone on chat said
fix it, and once it's fine
fire the guy and lock the door
stuck agate
h e ck????
zenith patio
I'm looking forward to more of this ASMR
Blizzard is always on point with innovation
serene tendon
C 
S T A
forest wharf
ASMRVERWATCH
ionic hemlock
thank god i am not the only one
who has lowered audio
vagrant niche
the Payload video for noobs was loud tho
zenith patio
WOW
stuck agate
earlier i opened the stream, was like, 'wow its so quiet better turn up the volume :D ' and then proceeded to get my eardrums blown to pieces
zenith patio
It's so quiet I can actually hear myself think
serene tendon
whats wrong with the camera?
serene tendon
C 😩 S T A
ionic hemlock
you might be onto something there
forest wharf
dafuq are these guys
vagrant niche
what guys?
serene tendon
where are my C E L E B R I T Y casters
forest wharf
the casters
ionic hemlock
probably contenders casters
serene tendon
korea they said
forest wharf
annndddd quieter......
serene tendon
why is australia green and yellow
ionic hemlock
that is a good question
is it the brazilian skins
🤔 🤔 🤔
forest wharf
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnB7bbkVsAEIWEe.jpg guess thats just their skin, idk
vagrant niche
Dhak still at it
serene tendon
how did they not capitalize on that
vast geode
Wtf trill just solo dived in
forest wharf
plz dont fuck it up again blizzard
vast geode
Aussie tanks terrible
vagrant niche
rip Uber's hope
serene tendon
carryhook
tawny sigil
0.2
stuck agate
WEOW
tawny sigil
wowe
serene tendon
what are the rules with overtime?
serene tendon
aaaaah mhm yes
tawny sigil
now go play the game
serene tendon
i definitely play enough comp to know this
tawny sigil
well its the same in quick play
overtime is overtime
minimum amount of time is 1 minute so if a team finish with 30 second left... they get 30 second and so does the other team
if the other team was in overtime then they will have 30 second and need another 30 second so the other team will get an aditionnal 30 second
so 0:00 - 0:30 becomes 1:00 - 1:30
0:00 = 1:30 stays that way
so they have 0:00.3 so they will get an aditionnal 59.7 second
tawny sigil
meaning the enemy also gets that
vast geode
ckm airshot pog
balmy wolf
who is winning
serene tendon
spain is 1-0
tawny sigil
1-1 now
stuck agate
STRAYA
vast geode
SNAGS FOR THE BOIS
tawny sigil
tuck in starts
vast geode
Aussies tearing apart spain
tawny sigil
the balance is tilting in favor of australia
tawny sigil
we'll see how spain does on attack
vast geode
CHINA DID IT BOIS 1-40
gaunt acorn
for world cup, yes
glacial sleet
hows he doing?
glacial sleet
whats the other casters name again?
round obsidian
his play was always solid but he's never been outstanding
definitely think casting suits him better
danteh is a huge upgrade for outlaws anyways
gaunt acorn
@glacial sleet ZP
glacial sleet
damn leave is huge
visual glen
Sweden getting clapped
idle beacon
where can i find infos about the captains of each country?
glacial sleet
oh right ZP is one of the better casters imo
but havnt watched any overwatch games in a long time
round obsidian
captains arent really important in OW teams but here are the full rosters for each team
gaunt acorn
if you want a full writeup, seach them individually on liquipedia
idle beacon
i am there, but there is no info about who the cap is 😃
thx
@gaunt acorn @round obsidian
round obsidian
there's no official captains i dont think
but just shotcallers who the players gravitate around in game
gaunt acorn
good
round obsidian
this is the first time they're playing
idle beacon
One of them being administrator for the biggest competitive Overwatch Discord server, "The O.W.".
gaunt acorn
100% less nepotism this year
round obsidian
they seem solid but again nothing special
idle beacon
and i thought this discord server is the biggest ow server?
gaunt acorn
this isn't a competive overwatch server
idle beacon
what is it about?
gaunt acorn
competitive overwatch
round obsidian
it contains all OWL pros, coaches, contenders etc...
gaunt acorn
mostly a server for pro-talk and shitposting
idle beacon
ok
round obsidian
basically everyone famous in OW is there
gaunt acorn
and scrims
glacial sleet
I think you gotta be GM to be invited to the other one
gaunt acorn
no
round obsidian
nah you just need to know the right people
glacial sleet
oh ok
gaunt acorn
literally all you have to do is dm slasher
round obsidian
and they have open invites a few times a year
idle beacon
a german chick is the admin there
gaunt acorn
cool
idle beacon
the german chick which also is the team manager of the british hurricanes
i was checking about the german world cup team.
idle beacon
germany still doesn't have any proper players? can't be true
round obsidian
what do you mean proper players?
idle beacon
well. afaik there wasn't one active german player in the last owl season
serene tendon
sweden pls
glacial sleet
holy
round obsidian
like 5 of the german roster play in contenders
round obsidian
there are many contenders players who would shit on any OWL pros
idle beacon
why are they in contenders teams, then?
round obsidian
because OWL teams are full?
idle beacon
dragons could buy a few now
round obsidian
season 2 introduces like 8 new teams
round obsidian
where do you think those players come from?
contenders ofc
no one has been kicked
the league has expanded
serene tendon
swedon Pog
round obsidian
you dont get kicked out of OWL
idle beacon
ye sure. i know that. just weird that owl orgs haven't bought the better players
round obsidian
teams pay upwards of 20-60 million USD for a spot
even if you go 0-40 like SHD you cant get kicked out of the league
idle beacon
they have removed 8 players
glacial sleet
poor SHD
idle beacon
released*
round obsidian
you release players before you sign new ones
that's basic management
give it time and you'll see the rosters develope
it's still early in off season
idle beacon
ye .. so where did i say anything wrong? 😄
round obsidian
i never said u did
idle beacon
released or kicked after a season. same thing for me 😃
round obsidian
you're asking why they havent bought better players, im saying it's still early and there's a lot of time for them to sign new players
glacial sleet
I wonder how many people are still playing overwatch in china
round obsidian
just gotta wait it out until we know
idle beacon
but interestin is that geguri stays with shd
round obsidian
they would never let geguri go
idle beacon
i would've bet that she'd move to a better team
round obsidian
if she's happy with SHD then SHD management would never willingly let her go
she's the most valuable player in all of OWL
glacial sleet
rip potato stream
idle beacon
maybe we'll see some more ladys
round obsidian
i mean if i was SHD and NYXL wanted to trade jjonak and pine for geguri i'd say no lmao
serene tendon
yosh
idle beacon
women always play differently than men .. but not in a negative way
round obsidian
it's not about her playstyle
idle beacon
rofl
round obsidian
it's about marketing
serene tendon
say no to
round obsidian
having the first female player in OWL is a huge money maker and marketing tactic for SHD
idle beacon
jjonak isn't really THAT valuable .. i never understood the damn shit hype about him, nor about pine
idle beacon
in your eyes maybe
round obsidian
pine i agree is not super special
he's like taimou, when he's on form he's the best player in the world
when he's off he's useless
he's a highlight reel, he makes insane plays and gets the spectator's attention
inconsistent players never held any appeal for me personally though
idle beacon
imo carpe is one of the best
round obsidian
but to justify my point about jjonak, he's a support player with damage values equivalent to or greater than his teammates on NYXL as well as keeping his healing numbers competitive with the other top zens in the league
idle beacon
and boombox wasn't really any worser than jjonak
round obsidian
boombox is a great zen and he's underrated but jjonak is miles ahead of him
idle beacon
hasn't he been pocketed by ark, very often?
round obsidian
ark pockets jjonak because jjonak's skill on zen demands a certain playstyle
round obsidian
other zens in the league tried to play the same way as NYXL
idle beacon
nah not me, after i saw that china is leading against sweden 😄
round obsidian
but you cannot pocket zen if your zen is not jjonak
round obsidian
well SBB threw 
serene tendon
yeah that was a great push
round obsidian
bruh
you will not find a bigger SBB fan than me
he's like my favourite player
but he threw hard vs fusion
which is fine
players have bad games
idle beacon
nyxl didn't lose because sbb being bad or whatever you're saying
round obsidian
it's not like it was intentional but he was definitely the flaw in NYXL during that game
idle beacon
for me jjonak was the flaw
round obsidian
not to mention their tank play was terrible
i agree that it wasnt solely SBB but NYXL on a whole was weaker than the NYXL we know
idle beacon
will be freakin interesting to see how they'll use both
round obsidian
i think the next round of world cup will be on the sym patch actually
not sure though
i heard talk about new sym in world cup
glacial sleet
team feedin lmao
serene tendon
OOOOOOOOOOO
glacial sleet
hoyl
idle beacon
wb is some good hero .. symm can be a bad or good thing ..
round obsidian
wb?
serene tendon
hamster
idle beacon
is one of the owl mods playing for sweden?
idle beacon
cool
round obsidian
i was gonna say before i was rly surprised reinforce was playing
he's so fkn good though
im rly impressed by his rein
glacial sleet
lol
round obsidian
monte and doa will always be my favourite duo
idle beacon
i am there, but it's weird
idle beacon
oh yea
day 1 to day 3
found it 😛
these players of china, are they in contenders?
glacial sleet
tviq getting clapped
hidden vault
I think it would be interesting to see the Finland team and sweden team combine and play togther
Tviq and Linzker dps
visual glen
Man imagine team China was the Shanghai Dragons
idle beacon
^
visual glen
Definitely would be better than 0-40watch
ruby pendant
wow China doing pretty good.
serene tendon
krystal carry
idle beacon
or sweden throwin
wheee .. sweden havin a hot chick in their back 😄
why isn;t jake playin for usa this year?
dusk hinge
Still sad that China c9’d on kings row
dusk hinge
Also glad sky gets to Ana
vast geode
There will be rioting if this China team doesn’t get signed to SHD
gaunt acorn
SHD will likely not be signing them, imo