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certainly not poised to win owl season 2 rn
Fissure Ado and dust
fissure has already replaced miro, yeah
ado could work, but i feel like they'll get some other dps players as well
really a shame, don't know what happened to Miro.
Ado is pretty good too, might be the best genji in the league.
I hope they get another hitscan.. fleta is so inconsistent
Don't need to if I'm going to be honest
fleta was inconsistent in the same way zunba was inconsistent
i dont think fleta himself was the problem
it was stress/burnout/coaching
fleta carried hard in stage 1
Micro has some individual plays
Idk for a tank I can see that, a dps not really
Fleta hands down best player in Seoul in s1, past that tho he’s just meh
@queen drift Maybe Fissure will help open some room for Fleta
Maybe
seoul's tank line looks really good now
rn they just need another consistent dps
and to maybe figure out what they want to do about support
do they want to keep running rjh + tobi as starters?
Fleta blade
Can they clone Jehong yet
lol
i think the starters will just be
fissure/zunba
???/fleta
ryujehong/tobi
inb4 valiant trades them bunny back
in return for kuki
Bunny is p trash on regular hitscan tho, he only really plays tracer
was joke
Any dps they sign will be awkward
Ik
Was leading on to
Because of fletas hero pool
You don’t want to go for a big money flex bc.. that’s fleta
But
You don’t want to go for a hitscab
Because
That’s fleta
Return of bunny
i think they will sign someone new from contenders
im not sure about that
How come
their hero pools are too similar
Flower is much more flexible
nanohana (fl0w3r) plays widowmaker, genji, pharah, and other hitscan
just like fleta
Fletas soldier tracer Zarya aren’t amazing
Nor is his junk or pharah
Fine yeh but compared to flower?
Elaborate?
shadowburn and eqo had similar hero pools
while sdb may have been the better pharah
overall it was hard to run him, most of the time
Right but neither of them can hitscan
so he was benched a lot
its not a perfect analogy
im just saying
i think they overlap too much
to be a dps combo
you can have one or the other, but running them both at the same time seems less than ideal
i think a smart contenders pick up would be best
i dont know of any owl free agents or potential trades that would fit, off the top of my head
snillo to seoul lul
meme
Nae Nae Nae
nenne would be pretty good, although his hero pool is kind of limited (imo), maybe too limited
and he's on nyxl's academy team
so nyxl gets first dibs on him
I hate speech to text just as much
Didn’t their contracts run out?
Like they had a 1 year contract on flower and that was it
i think nenne is still signed to xl2
Everyone else on XL2 is just another contenders player iirc
but the fact that xl2 is the academy team for nyxl means that nyxl gets first dibs on them
thats the reason for academy teams
Didn’t know it worked like that
ye
Why was flower signed to nyxl then
too young
oh
well, yeah
he was signed because they knew they wanted him, i guess
but he was just too young to play
But the contract ran out before he was of age iirc
idk perhaps he was important enough they felt he was worth it despite not being able to play
i cant comment on the reasoning behind their decision
thats just my understanding of it
Just seems like a waste of money
Maybe they offered the contract before academy teams were fully explained
iirc cutoff date was before flow3r turned 18
To make sure teams didn't exploit the system by running new players just before end of regular season or during postseason, the cutoff date was April 5th
His birthday was May 14
Im still salty about fissure leaving glads to play for an all Korean team. He's an awesome tank, but his attitude.. . He's like the Korean xqc.
Fissure was put in a cab with two hour notice and shipped to a forgein team
Even his glads player number was a refrence to his old korean team, kongdoo
Fissure had a tough time too
Still doesn't excuse him throwing his team under the bus during season playoffs
fissure is anakin and seoul dynasty is the senate
"Good, Fissure, good... throw the playoffs... throw the playoffs now."
"I shouldn't..."
"Do it."
so we were talking about esport in olympics the other day.... apparently they decide to exclude any game that countains killing
so rocket league only
good
i dont think being in the olympics would really be a positive thing
not least because the IOC is corrupt as hell
fighting games aer allowed... well exept those like mortal kombat
My favorite video games are killing games
as long as its only KO
I don't understand the issue to be honest, Overwatch is one of the least graphic video games I've seen
What about poor bastion when he dies
That's gorey
The problems that Seoul had in this season:
Miro was washed up
Fleta was inconsistent
Tobi had a wrist injury
Munchkin was underwhelming
Zunba and Jehong were basically the only 2 consistent players on the team
WTF WAS GIDO DOING IN JEHONG'S SPOT
Wekeed was not OWL ready
Gambler was a 6/10
And when Zunba got an injury, Xepher showed us why he was warming up the bench
uh they also had 4 head coaches contradicting each other
true true
coaching was the biggest issue, imo
miro wasn't "washed up" so much as he wasn't getting the help he needed
this impacted all the players
plus the stress, demoralizing atmosphere, and uncertainty did a lot of harm, too
especially to zunba and fleta
on top of that you have a meta that doesn't favour their support duo at all
then, finally, but (imo) least importantly; some poor roster pickups
like kuki, etc
Tobi just wanted to play Lucio 
and jehong wanted to play ana
sad
it's almost like hero pool is an important aspect for pro players 
And they should try to get either Stitch or Nenne
@deft valley they have those heroes in their hero pool
But they are not AS good
Jegong is an ana main and Tobi is a lucio main
being as good or not as good is part of it
They play WAY better on those heroes
they were clearly lacking compared to others who adapted
They are better than most of us anyway
...
everyone gets the same one lol
if you think mercy meta was boring, do not look back on ana threetank lol
3 tank was also zzzzzzzzzzz
it wasn't diverse (in healers anyway) but there was plenty of action
But Im talking about OWL metas
The comp you saw in Stage 1 included 80% of the time Mercy, Zen and Spamrat
that was on junkrat
Mercy meta overall had the most diverse dps combos
for a while anyway
And in Stages 2 and 3 not having a God tier Tracer was an insta loss
And Munchkin was BAD
Playing Mercy at that high of a level is not easy
Imagine having Mano, SBB, Meko and Libero ON YOUR FACE
Or having Carpe and SDB
Its not easy
playing anything on that level ain't gonna be easy
that said there were still clear differences on mercy
Neptuno 🙏
If you are not a Mercy 1 trick or dont get good enough peels, you insta die
Neptuno for instance is an almost Mercy 1 trick
Nus is a Mercy bot
lolwhat
And Ark has a team that doesnt let him die
Neptuno played Mercy in most of OWL because she was the best pick for the entire regular season
It also depends on the teammates
he used to be best known for his Lucio
and he's pulled him out in slambulance and later goats comps
Tobi is really good, but he had a wrist injury
Same with Jehong
Zunba had a wrist injury too
He couldnt play like he used to because of that
AND CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE FUCK THEY HAD 4 HEAD COACHES THAT COMTRADICTED EACH OTHER AND PUT GIDO IN JEHONG'S PLACE?
Seoul's coaches were WAY worse than MemeMeme
Seoul's org was a JOKE
They should have tried to convince Esca to stay
He was the soul of LH
Ark???? A Mercy one trick???? Wow
I thought Esca left because he had military service to do
I never said that
I said that he is not, but he has a yeam that doesnt let him die
NYXL (before they choked) worked like a well oiled machine
Less they choked, more that good mechanical skills weren't rewarded as much once brig was in
Couldn't play tracer/ genji/mccree
Brig = anti skill
Today we will have Worldcup right?
tomorrow
Idk
LOL
LMAO they’re not wrong
This is deep
It gives me more confidence to try out for my high school team, but I don’t believe I could do it.
That article just put me in my feels
Same
I wanted to write an article about my experience with the OWL on medium
I'm not that fluid in my writing style, but would be a good read from a city trying to grow into esports as a part of our local identity
rip eu owl
AU gets more attention by ratio of its population than EU
I still don't get what decision had to be made from Blizz AJ to allow NZ to be able to collect OWL Tokens watching games while Australia didn't
NeptuNo just killed people as mercy and went for nutty rez’s
Token collection was always done based on local laws in some situations. NZ probably had less strict regulations than Australia.
Like for Canada to collect tokens they have to do math questions and shit
and Neptuno paid the price for it in the finals
@sullen berry did you try writing before?
WC America starts tomorrow right?
Yes
🇺🇸 sweeet

I wish Canada all the best. They gave me hockey so i have nothing but love for the brothers of the north xD
Except Toronto because they stole Tavares. But anyway
Who else seems like a legit contender besides Canada/US?
brazil
Is Agilities a starter for Canada? Or sub
mangachu plays a great pharah, too
mangachu's pharah is credited for defeating russia last year
Nice. This is my first year watching it. Purrrty excited
if you ask me, i thought norway's roster looked kind of intimidating
onigod is pretty good
🇨🇦

So
have 2 days to sign a tank. Who do they go with?
Miro 
Janus, Smurf, Panker, Beasthalo and Cloneman are all very good options
Pfft, they're going to pick up xqc.
Why did they pick Iremix in the 1st place though
I think LA valiant is the only team that hadn't revealed any roster
Seems like they would be keeping all of them
@hidden vault because him (iremiix) and bischu were a pair
they were the tank duo for kungarna, prior to being signed to the gladiators
and valiant are definitely releasing a few players, i would think
Yeah going into OWL last year all everyone was talking about was having a strong tank duo so tanks we often getting picked up in pairs
I hope VAL will give us the news soon!
ooooh my gut tells me it might really be true

please, kyle souder, stay away from my city
you've done enough damage elsewhere
just retire or something, dude
dm me your paypal
i'll pay you to retire
Who do you think they would release then?
None of the new players had much play time
And there was a few discussions that kyky was actually helping dallas but Hastr0 was the one harming dallas
i think it's been established kyky was ultimately responsible
hastr0 may have done some dumb shit, too
but the brunt of blame belongs to kyky
and @hidden vault off the top of my head.. numlocked? bunny?
finnsi?
i don't know what they plan to do with izayaki since we didn't even see him
but numlocked is almost certainly getting released, imo
and i don't see much reason for them to keep bunny
Yeah numlocked probably he didn't even play for the British
I see teams like LAG releasing their tracer specialists so bunny maybe
We hadn't really seen finnisi too have we
Verbo? KSF?
And I'm not even sure why LAG released Asher
Ok that's not the point
Oh London also hadn't announced their released players too
Oh wait london already did ahead of everyone
yup
Verbo for sure
Expect whole Val B team minus Izayaki to go
PankChamp
3 chinese teams
4 american teams
x fuckin d
the two european teams are literally a 2 hour train ride away from eachother
and I'm sure other EU cities were bidding
the only european team that was leaked as potentially interested was berlin
there was a stockholm rumor too
LETS GO DC
Still no AUS team
Riot infront of Austrailan Multi-Millionaire's houses for a OWL team
Toronto Vipers
maybe by percentage when compared to other games it isnt, but due to china's sheer size, i guess it is relative to other countries
what they do have is lots of 💸
nah i bet a majority of their players will be chinese
at least on the 3 new teams
Shanghai tho
¯_(ツ)_/¯
LOL shanghai
china has its own contenders because they have their own servers though
China also has enough players, and some of them are actually pretty good. We just didn't see any of them in Season 1.
I'm sure one of the teams will try and pick up the entire MY roster, since they're almost all of legal age now, etc.
yes
hope whoever managed shanghai's roster got what's comin to him
well kinda
sky moved to Shanghia and creed to a shanghai coach
a couple are on their academy team
two retired
pleb bot
leave was insane, hope he comes back
maybe he will now that there's 4 Chinese teams in OWL now
Sky, lateyoung, and leave are in the Chinese World Cup team
hey guys,
what twitch channel is the stream going to be on?
not the league i'm assuming
PlayOverwatch
thanks
yes, is very soon
Guess I'll stay up for it 
I thought you meant disabled as in
xQc invaders
oh boi
I love his name
I love how twitch chat is just spamming xqc's huge fucking schnoze
thats what happen when everyone give both mom and dad's last name to their kid and then next generation does it aswell
end up with 10 words names
Is this in the same blizz arena as the OWL?
Fking lol at the xqc nose spam

feels good
the best casters, fuck yeah
seeing xQc back
theres some tall bois on team canada
on stage
Just turn off the chat Lol
aye adrian
watching twitch without chat, why even watch
Canada has some absolute units
then watch on the overwatch website :CAT:
Reinforce is taller than Mangachu...
me too
Mangachu POGGERS
hope this is the start of a redemption arc
please play Pharah
s4 and xqc kind of look like they could be brothers
XQC on WB 
yooo
He hasn't been playing him much on stream
I wonder if it's to hide strats
aww, he's on orisa
GO CANADA
They should add a XQC schnoze cam
lmao
I feel like USA is really under estimatin surefour and mangachu
I want USA to get absolutely dicked on
^

I didnt know they would be live at EU friendly times
Mangachu Wrecking Ball wew
Oh shit
MANGACHU DOOMFIST
ugh, I hate that hero so much
man these colors fking suck lmao. I look at the kill feed and get confused
yeah, I was just about to say, hard to tell which team is which on the point
its less important on KOTH imo if your team is good at stagger contesting
oh dear, wrong nano boost target
you could delay to 99pct without ults
Its even more important imo because they went 2 ults for 2 picks but Austria still stalled 15% on top
because its KOTH
Austria is doing better than I expected tbh
man i wanna hear the comms, xqc fking yelling and shit lmao
keyboard BIG SLAM

I mean it didnt look like they were winning until the 3rd ult
Twitch chat is never gonna stop spamming
whenever he's on camera
I hate defending kings row tbh

😴

Instead of widow every map now Austria gonna goats every map 
Can't really blame them tbh
I feel like Canada overcommits in terms of ults sometimes
They just get away with it because Austria isn't good enough to punish
maybe, but you have to remember, ults are cheap in this game
xqc rein feels good man
Oh no dude the stagger D:
man playing against sombra in pro play must be frustrating as fuck
lmaooooo
Surefour is being such a pain in the ass lmao
huge stagger
She just farms EMP off chip damage looool
fking emp every fight lmao
Oof
Its all 4 played
Literally rolled
Loving the Space Animals dive
Austria are so staggered holy shit
Final fight ol
They're afraid to press W as soon as they lose 1 person
Which is understandable but damn thats rough
Yea...pretty rekt
this is looking pretty free
ez
looks like Austria are making use of their sub?
Team canada is fucking stacked though, idk how good austria's players are since ive never heard of them but yea
He's 15 wtf lol
wow, this kid is 15
Wait wait
Doesnt he have school 
damnnnnnnnnnnn
not when hes in the overwatch world cup Lmaoo
USA prety cool!!
15 pogchamp
Pretty deep voice for a 15 year old lol
Lool
Do they have an analyst desk in this world cup yet
These stats are pretty meaningless imo
Damn, you can definitely tell blizzard cut alot of production budget this year, guess theyre pushing it all in owl
Yeah they also had barely any advertising for World Cup
Yea, like pretty much no advertising
AGILITIES
Agilities lucio???
O_o
that's an odd choice
Uhhh lol
I thought they'd keep him close to spawn to switch if needed but he's staying it seems
Quad tank 
Slambulance xd
random but what patch is worlds on?
He gets the first kill lmao
damn that wrecking ball on austria didnt last long
canada is kicking their ass damn
Yeah this is looking like a warm up
According to google its on patch 1.27
This whole thing is just "Can GOATs get on point"
If yeah, they win
But the odds of that arent very high
Oof
THAT BOMB
^
JESUS
HOLY CRAP
austria just got fucked
that point is hard as fuck to get a good bomb too
holy fucking shit Note
5 + a mech
he got the dva mech too
Gees
so essentially a team wipe
I wish I was watching this rn
tbh i hope that canada makes finals again
and secure themselves as a solid worlsd team
like, canada has a solid team tbh
That and Jayne as their head coach
Agilities 
I wonder if anyone's going to try to pick up Mangachu for OWL next year
10 bucks says he's had offers already lol
But NYXL holds the right of first offer I think
man surefours sombra would make me want to uninstall OW lmao
And they obvs wont sign him but
I dont think anyone else can offer until the academy signing period is over
Nah, expansion teams have first rightz
I think Philly could pick up Mangachu.
MANGACHU 
wow
Oh
If they give up ShaDowBurn
Does expansion get dibs before parent team?
Idk
Does Boston have anyone backing up Mistakes & Striker right now?
honestly id be happy with a non-asian team being known as one of the best at worlds aha
Also as of tomorrow all players not under contract are free agents
Poor Miro dude
Its understandable they let Miro go but damn its the end of an era
Rip Lunatic-hai
Literally all of Shanghai was let go too
Only Diya, Fearless, and Geguri remain
from what I'm reading it sounds more like Mistakes wanted out for whatever reason
The dropped Ado
Same with mayhem 
Oof
Saya, tviq, and awesomeguy only survivors
I wonder what the overall count for released non-korean players is
They dropped Logix too?
Yep
Logix I can see going to the Paris team if they build a French roaster
Although it depends which part of Belgium he's from
Not 100% sure he speaks French
They can
Pretty sure every expansion team are gonna be 90% korean anyways
Korean contenders is gonna be stripped out
Agilities lmao
yeah
Who won the Korean Finals, Runaway or Kongdoo Panthera I only saw half of the match and Panthera was up 3-1
Runaway won
BOOP
Was a pretty epic game
Thats the second time Austrias Rein charged a corner
I imagine theyre nervous af
yeah
Agilities is just trolling at this point lol
Especially having to play this team first
agilities is trolling?
Hes just rolling around trying to boop everyone off the map lol
sounds like how I play lucio
How I play Brig
Rip
Yea canada is super stacked this year
so after this match., we have another one
who's next?
good
after the next one
LOL
is this the finland strat
aahahahah GET REKT
Yeah they keep running that
how did some gold get into OWWC
this is desperation
he didn't
like they should have fell back after the 2 kills
rip
Think theyre just fucking around since they know they obviously lost
BOOP
hjahahaha
WHAT
JEBAITED
#rekt
WHATTTT
AGILITIES
agilities keeps trolling them
MY DUDE
LMAOOOO
Lmfao
ahahahah
LMAO THE SOLO SOUND BARRIER
BOOP
holy fuck
4
4 and mech

i think?
those skins tho
heard someone asked why agilities is on lucio
4 and mech yes
Custa Genji 
that guy is
agilities with potg
trolling so hard
4 BOOP KILLS, MECH AND SOLO SOUND BARRIER
oh god god
not bad, took some time
is it first time
Canada is just messing around loll
9 boop kills lul
torb omfg
we need a new hammer killfeed pic
lol
The signature Mangachu Torb
My god
canada was fun this match lol
ANOTHER BOOP
did you see the OWL all star game?
dam son
4-0verwatch
potg was the 4 env kills
triple torb hammer kill. I would love to see that in OWL or OWWC lmao
so what you do when you win the match>
good meme
play torb
Im so happy he stayed on Lucio
austria just got their ass kicked
That was amazing lol
i hope brasil better give some resistance
Agilities with the 10 boop kills

xQc still repping Dallas
how were the last two maps?
"I love playing interactive heroes" LMAO
I missed them
That interview was basically: "we knew we were gonna win and trolled"
SANGBAGGING CONFIRMED
Fucking agilities lucio
i bet we will see lucios alot now

oh this is just not a good day for Austria is it
Lets go Norway!
Is Switzerland obligated to run Mercy full time?
Does anyone know if Brazil have a good team?
meh
doesnt really matter
Canada and US are probably gonna move on
Norway is probably 3rd though. (this is not biased, they're actually pretty decent)
is it top 3 or 4 from each group?
wait norway doesn't have a dedicated support?
@ruby pendant they probably just instalock 6 dps and refuse to support the team in any way, shape or form
they do
And dont join vc
Lets go Norway!
New SHD roster confirmed
Canada looked great so far, U.S should probably do good too. I'll only ask about Brazil since, recently they tried to push contenders in South America. Thought maybe they had a decent team.
@long belfry lol
Brazillians are even more toxic than Russians
@feral wing then I'm looking forward to watching them in the upcoming match, they better not disappoint!
Norway is probably the only team that has any chance at taking US or Canada to map 5, based on their performace in earlier world cups
They will lock dps and think that its more important to play torb than actually winning
Im talking about Brazil
norway got it
lol wow
this might actually be closer than I thought
I discounted the dumb from Switzerland
oh yeah gimme dat mei on mei
that was so stupid, 2 missed ults
Norway's tankline is playing really well
like 1v6 missing an ult?
Decod and Tricky

OMEGALUL
see how in comp they move as a unit?
Yeah, nope this wont be close.
I thought you were supposed to trickle in one at a time
norway gonna steamroll
dat rein charge into the wall tho
I watched a comp game that one of the Brazillians played
decod with his shatters
He threw harder than NYXL
onigod is amazing
if switzerland tightens up they are going through
norway made a flanking mistake with rein
they are the better skilled team
they were pretty dominant tbh
1 map goal achieved... go back home OWWC is over
LMAO
SPEEDBOOSTING EVERYONE BACK JUST TO SWAP ZEN
I got pranked so hard
I thought they were swapping their entire comp
lol sweep
Onigod on zarya 
he's pretty good.
that zarya bubble won them the fight
did anyone else see onigod in ow eu contenders
ahahahah rekt
semi final, angry titans vs (i dont remember)
can't remember, was it season 1?
look at that clip
the pulse bomb
everything
I feel like a lot of norway's players could be OWL level
#NoMercy lol
interesting tactic from switzerland
it worked tho
so
this is going well for switzerland
whats that mei wall
wut
slightly off rip
le boop
that mei wall from luux was very questionable
he didnt wall anyone off from their team
OOF DECOD
switzerland have nepal
OMEGALUL
thats a really clutch backcap
That red is something else
it's solid but Canada's is prettier 😉
meh
NICE
REP THE CANADA
wouldve prefered an EU team
Vancouver Canucks?
cause they switching from Hockey to OWL?
the Russian Rocket is first player signed to Vancouver
Im actually enjoying not seeing Mercy
Making it more interesting
Seoul, Shanghai are the only two from asia
I agree actually
@plush trout yup!!1
ONIGOD 
meanwhile LA has two teams by themselves
Luux NA AIM
afterall they are a California invention
But Canada didn’t have any before this
yea
XQC
or vancouver
no
one of them
No
not t.o.
why not
REGINA
ehm
anyone?
new teams yeet
no matter what
There’s more of a esports presence In van
are the team names out yet
one of the canadian teams shouldve been an EU team instead tbh
Canada deserved a team
but
Cri
EU needs more teams
Buffalo/Rochester would probably get decent attendance once the home arena opened
One of the Canadian teams?
We deserve 2 teams
there is more than 1?
Vancouver and Toronto
When they start traveling throughout the season youll probably see more EU teams
They better play for Vancouver
Surefour is from my hometown
That’s sick dude
Kinda rough when no one can watch in that timezone
I feel like I've met him somewhere
Canada deserves 2 teams, but when EU only has 2 teams then EU should have a higher priority
They’ll get them don’t worry
what makes mcree a better pick than soldier?
it's not about "who deserves what"
so far, predictions for the result of this match?
it's about who FUNDS what
and that means there needs to be capital investment
obviously the wanker rich in Euroland isn't willing to pony up money for it
I think this will be a 3-1 to Norway
k
@balmy wolf "Seoul, Shanghai are the only two from asia" Unfortunately, neither made it to league playoffs.
I think Switzerland is gonna take this map but then Norway is gonna win overall
real disappointment!!






