really exciting
#esports-discussion
warped axle
Pretty sure only Atlanta and Guangzhou have been officially announced
gaunt acorn
that's basically what i said
but yeah
it's pretty safe to say the final 8 are confirmed
despite no announcement on the owl blog yet
gaunt acorn
i'm glad that toronto and vancouver weren't mutually exclusive
we got both
would've been nice to get another european team or two instead of more chinese/american teams
but oh well
i'm personally satisfied
warped axle
Another Korean city is incredibly needed
Absolutely the worst part about it
To non Chinese people there is very little differentiating all of these new cities
hidden vault
Would be good if we could get a japanese team too
gaunt acorn
well, yeah, i would've liked to see busan or seoul #2
i don't think a japanese team will ever happen
esports and pc gaming in general aren't that big
gaunt acorn
that still requires a massive investment and believing japanese audiences will support it
hidden vault
I think 8 teams is great makes the total number of team 20
So is a stage gonna be twice as long now?
sullen berry
It doesn't need to be longer
Playoffs is where the best of both divisions will compete, so with more teams in each division you end up playing fewer teams in the other division
During Stage 1 playoff race, it wasn't looking like there would be another team from the Pacific division
long belfry
I just want to have an SA team
sullen berry
@vagrant niche FloridaMayhem Florida Mayehm release 6: https://twitter.com/FLMayhem/status/1037415180206915584
sullen berry
Tragic, I know
gaunt acorn
wait what
so the top 6 teams in regular season make playoffs..
then another 2 teams are given the opportunity to get in, by some gladiatorial arena battle?
limber pine
With 20 teams, I’d image 8 more would play for the final two spots
Wild card
So the bottom 6 teams wouldn’t qualify for anything
gaunt acorn
sounds cool, i guess
after the revelation that was a vancouver team today, i can't really get hyped for anything else tbqh
that playoffs format sounds interesting though
gaunt acorn
dunno about manneten
limber pine
McGravy can also flex like Seagull, cuz he was DPS before being in contenders
he was Hitscan on EnVision
limber pine
Well, this weekend is a good time as any for SA to show its stuff
jagged crater
mcgravy and fahzix please
wasnt mcgravy the tracer for envision? He had a pretty good run at one point
limber pine
yes
jagged crater
i remember the recording of him clutching out in OT, so nice to watch
long belfry
Its a shame because every time someone speaks about the SA playerbase they talk about how toxic Brazilians are
Ant the rest of SA gets fucked for that
paper crag
Is the roster limit going to be 8 instead of 12 now?
Is that one of the reasons for all these huge drops we’ve been seeing?
long belfry
8 is the bare minimum allowed
gaunt acorn
@west elk post in #video-content
west elk
ty
lethal plank
I just looked at the "released" list. It's the beginning of the end for OWL. Like Florida just nuked the entire team.
queen drift
" It's the beginning of the end for OWL. " its really not tho
this is good
sucky if you're a fan of the team or the player(s), but in the grand scheme of things this is good
frees up space for new talent, encourages competition between the teams
and it keeps things exciting
plush trout
The two teams that nuked their rosters were the two worst teams
lethal plank
Not really. It's sending a message that teams will send you away if the entire team can't win instead of finding ways to train the players.
plush trout
They want to compete. Watching some of the Mayem matches...they rly needed to be cut xD
lethal plank
Fuel nuked a good amount too. And we all know Coco will be released from his coach position before season 2
queen drift
If you go 5-35 and 0-40 respectively, you're a bit beyond training for most ORGs
They'd much rather pick up an entirely new roster
lethal plank
Seoul nuked coaches
queen drift
thats not really nuking tho.. thats like 2 or 3 people
plush trout
I think the first match the Valiant had against FLA...LA steam rolled em in the first round and florida barely even got a kill
if it were my team and its costing money...why keep turd players
lethal plank
I read 4or 5
plush trout
the goal is the win
lethal plank
Yes but it's the first bloody season. Removing an entire team because of poor performance sends a bad image
plush trout
honestly compared to most Florida pro sports teams its nice to see someone care about one and try to fix it
gaunt acorn
lol
queen drift
i disagree.. i think that it shows they're committed to winning rather than pandering
gaunt acorn
how is releasing your underperforming roster the end of the league
florida mayhem performed horribly in season 1
major roster changes were required
the only thing i disagree with is keeping mineral as head coach
plush trout
I disagree more with Shanghai releasing everyone if anything since those kids were just overworked
gaunt acorn
yeah just train them loool 
queen drift
just get better loool 
gaunt acorn
shanghai had a lot of players that weren't good enough to play in a tier 1 environment
lethal plank
Try finding people willing to play the game as much as players did in season 1. Especially when you have many of them not wanting to go back like seagull
gaunt acorn
i wish them the best of luck in contenders
queen drift
there's a lot
like a lot a lot
of players that are willing to play the game as much if not more
gaunt acorn
certainly
queen drift
maybe not shanghai level
queen drift
ye
gaunt acorn
also wow raev thats weird
queen drift
wasup
gaunt acorn
i was looking at that exact art last night
queen drift
haha
gaunt acorn
unrelated to you having it as your pfp
queen drift
Rachael is Baechael
queen drift
agree
plush trout
Mayhem honestly looked like a bunch of random dudes who play for fun on a friday night
lethal plank
In any sport you're going to have those few teams that are relatively easy to beat.
queen drift
which is weird because they were one of the most succesful teams pre-owl
yeah.. but those teams dont like being those teams
if those teams could release their entire roster and sign better players, they would
which florida cna
can *
plush trout
Theres plenty of better players out there im sure and they probably know it otherwise they wouldve kept em
gaunt acorn
for sure
plush trout
I think if the pool of upcoming players was small...everyone would be hanging on to the current rosters for dear life
lethal plank
Xqc signed for Toronto
gaunt acorn
if crimzo gets on team vancouver i will 
queen drift
is xqc sill banned
gaunt acorn
no
lethal plank
Nope
plush trout
Hes playing WC as well
lethal plank
He can still be signed but he doesn't want to
queen drift
wc is a different ruleset i think
lethal plank
Doubtful.
queen drift
i hope he does
gaunt acorn
i think he's matured a bit as a person
and can reflect on why season 1 went so poorly for him now
queen drift
say what you want about xqc as a person, i probably agree, but damn hes a good player
plush trout
not after the US crushes them and he rage throws his keyboard
lethal plank
If he does and goes to a Canadian team I'll root for that team
gaunt acorn
obviously it depends how he wants to balance streaming/pro life
since he won't quit now that he's grown significantly on twitch
but i don't think him ever playing again is entirely out of the realm of possibility
queen drift
i want to see his keyboard on the WC stream
gaunt acorn
havent you seen it?
plush trout
If he can follow code of conduct for the league he might be alright xD
queen drift
ive seen it
lethal plank
Trihardseven
plush trout
Lolll
queen drift
protect pepe
gaunt acorn
i'm just really happy vancouver secured a spot
it seemed like the dream was dead when toronto got leaked
lethal plank
I wanted an Australian team
queen drift
think toronto will have to change their name
lethal plank
Toronto Maple Syrup
queen drift
ye
gaunt acorn
yeah, probably
queen drift
wasnt there a seattle team that had to change
gaunt acorn
the outlaws academy team also rebranded to ggea
but that wasn't due to geographical stuff
queen drift
busan?
paper crag
i mean, XQC technically isn't banned from OWL, right?
gaunt acorn
no, he isn't
paper crag
he got penalized a couple times then left the team
gaunt acorn
he's free to play again, if he chose to
queen drift
‘Mutual decision’
paper crag
i wonder if blizz will try to keep him soft-banned though
although him being on the WC team says otherwise
plush trout
Im sure theyd prefer he not lol
I mean you reach a pro level of something, especially something that CHILDREN idolize
Probably a good idea to not be a complete douche
queen drift
To be honest after the other drama that’s happened since I don’t think they’d really care about xqc joining
plush trout
i mean thats an expectation of any job. A supermarket can fire you for putting racist or homophobic stuff on your facebook. It certainly is no different for that entitled dick lol
queen drift
Kazper? Undead?
paper crag
i just wanted to know if he was technically eligible to play in OWL or not
@queen drift oh I thought you meant there was another drama involving xqc but i misread something
apparently daddy dream wasn't charged?
plush trout
Hes just been fined a few times and suspended for a period of time
queen drift
Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, and I’m sure they want to avoid it anyway
plush trout
Hes not the only one thats been fined for that stuff xD
paper crag
i'm not saying he's innocent
paper crag
i'm just surprised that he wasn't
i'm not saying it should affect his eligibility in OWL
queen drift
Happens a lot in child cases
paper crag
huh interesting
queen drift
Ya, parents typically don’t want to charge and bring attention
When it’s a public figure I mean
paper crag
understandable i guess
plush trout
Itll probably be settled behind closed doors
paper crag
brings unwanted attention to their kids and stuff i suppose
paper crag
lmao
queen drift
Again because it’s a child case it’s not public information
paper crag
is Fissure to Seoul trade confirmed?
paper crag
I see
plush trout
That dude gets my face stuck on cringe
queen drift
ye i dont like fissure
paper crag
Fissure?
plush trout
Great at the game though
paper crag
yeah I think he's kinda over-liked as a meme
paper crag
i don't want to say overrated because i'm not gonna make comments about his skill
i don't think i actively dislike any current players
but if I HAD to choose between like or dislike, Fissure would be dislike
oh wait nvm
i dislike zephyr
gaunt acorn
fissure lost some of my respect when he lied about the gladiators situation
but he's undeniably a great player
and will help seoul, i think
paper crag
what happened in Glads and what did Fissure say?
gaunt acorn
so i'm happy to see him join the dynasty
not least because i'd love to see what zunba can do when paired with him
queen drift
like half of it is up in the air if its truth
but undeniable fact is: it was leaked that he was traded from LAG to Seoul
or, going to be traded
he said no, denied it a lot on twitter / stream
didnt he insult slasher who leaked it at one point too
plush trout
O_o
queen drift
it was also leaked but not confirmed that he was basically being a little bitch in LAG scrims
leading up to the trade
plush trout
Either way it comes off as a slap to LAG fans xD
queen drift
which is why he didnt play
gaunt acorn
yes he said slasher was lying (he wasnt)
queen drift
great player, bad guy
gaunt acorn
at this point i only care about the first part
seeing seoul rise from the ashes would be nice
clear crane
we dont know for sure what happened
gaunt acorn
and zunba deserves better
we have a good idea of what happened
slasher is extremely credible
queen drift
we know for sure he lied about being traded
paper crag
yeah something that people liked to say around playoff time was "LAG would have been so much better in playoffs if they had Fissure" but there are factors other than raw skill that contributes positively/negatively to the team
gaunt acorn
slasher and wolf are basically 99% correct in their leaks
paper crag
and i'm guessing the coaches thought having Fissure play would have been worse for the team
gaunt acorn
anyone else, your mileage may vary
gaunt acorn
it made more sense to run fissure in the playoffs, yup
clear crane
not a fissure fanboy but theres prob another side we dont know
clear crane
with fissure theyu wuda lost lol
queen drift
whatever it is tho its shitty to not only lie but try to discredit someone else i nthe process
should have just kept his mouth shut
gaunt acorn
that's how i feel
plush trout
Well thats why i wonder if he really had no idea
gaunt acorn
i lost respect for him when he pulled that shit
queen drift
kinda impossible for him not to
plush trout
It just seems like bizarre behavior
gaunt acorn
but whatever, if he can put it behind him and just focus on playing well this season
queen drift
fissure is a huge asset to lag, they would have wanted to keep him no matter what
it was probably heavily fissure wanting to leave
gaunt acorn
certainly
paper crag
i mean, he did say he was traded form London to LAG with like 3 days' notice
plush trout
Yeah that is true
gaunt acorn
slasher said as much
paper crag
maybe something similar happened?
gaunt acorn
no
paper crag
although insults are unnecessary in either case
gaunt acorn
fissure very much wanted to leave gladiators this time
london, he didn't
(and wasn't even informed about the trade)
queen drift
he also said publically he missed playing in a korean team, and wants to play with koreans again
while in LAG
clear crane
didnt he wanna leave london cause of pt
queen drift
no
gaunt acorn
fissure has always wanted to play for seoul dynasty
plush trout
Kinda sucks because LAG has some flashes of being rly good
queen drift
fissure didnt want to leave london
gaunt acorn
when he got released from london, he changed all his skins to seoul dynasty
plush trout
without him thats kinda eh now
gaunt acorn
and hoped seoul would make him an offer
queen drift
fissure is a diva
gaunt acorn
but they didn't so he begrudgingly signed with gladiators instead
clear crane
meh
plush trout
Thats hilarious
paper crag
was he released, like he had time where he was up in the air with no team? I always thought he was literally just traded from LDN to LAG
gaunt acorn
i mean, i can understand his motives
he just went about it the completely wrong way
and threw a fit
paper crag
he does seem like a diva
gaunt acorn
actually he plays main tank, not off-tank
clear crane
i wanna see more moves
gaunt acorn
clear crane
what do u guys think valiand does, if anything
paper crag
shitposting will result in a loss of access, even mods
clear crane
good lol
gaunt acorn
i think they like their current roster
clear crane
im a valiant fan
paper crag
clear crane
well mainly a soon fan, since his days with rogue and misfit
plush trout
Im trying hard to remember most of these guys are basically kids still...and being a new league theres no precedent set for how not to act like an assface
queen drift
oh my god
plush trout
Like there is in other sports
gaunt acorn
also, there's a rumour valiant plan to sign kuki
queen drift
fuckin
plush trout
Id prefer Valiant leave things as is
clear crane
imagine fate gets poached
paper crag
why would valiant want kuki?
queen drift
that has to be the worst pic
gaunt acorn
i don't think fate is going anywhere
clear crane
playing with the rest of NYXL at the OWWC lol
gaunt acorn
@paper crag no clue
plush trout
A lot of Valiants failures at times was the players it was the plays
queen drift
drop verbo
paper crag
why would ANYONE want kuki, tbh, unless they literally have no main tank
gaunt acorn
i guess as backup
queen drift
or move him to coach
gaunt acorn
no
queen drift
huh i didnt know that valiant signed ksf
plush trout
As long as Soon and Fate are on board im happy
paper crag
do we know who's sponsoring Paris?
gaunt acorn
soon probably wont leave valiant
paper crag
is it PSG?
plush trout
Unkoe drove me nuts
gaunt acorn
well, they are kind of required if you want to field a top-caliber all-french roster
plush trout
unkoes dead again GOD DAMN IT UNTHROW
clear crane
its owned by some company that owns Olympique de Marseille
paper crag
I'm kinda surprised there's no team named Phoenix yet
unkoe 
gaunt acorn
@paper crag atlanta might
clear crane
woops
plush trout
You could tell unkoe was silent because hed drop ultimates at the most random effing times
gaunt acorn
the phoenix is the symbol of their city or whatever
gaunt acorn
a what
queen drift
when did valiant sign ksf
gaunt acorn
clear crane
i think it was casue i had something in the search bar
i think season 3?
after season 2
stage 2*
plush trout
KSF joined earlier this year
paper crag
suppose Brigitte gets nerfed to the ground. Does mickie have viability?
oh wait, seagull retired
plush trout
Google tells me April
queen drift
hes an okay dva
paper crag
so i guess he's still playing dva
gaunt acorn
mickie will find some other use, yes
i don't think micke will be their starter off-tank
queen drift
mickie is like a mid tier dva/hog imo
gaunt acorn
mcgravy will likely be called up
to be their dva player
mickie is more of a wildcard
and his attitude is good for team morale
queen drift
if they release mickie i might die
gaunt acorn
the issue rn is that flowervin and runner want to stay in korea
so if runaway got signed together, their owners couldn't follow them
gaunt acorn
which kinda kills runaway spiritually
queen drift
why would the owners come anyway?
gaunt acorn
because flowervin and runner contribute a lot to the team
this is runaway we're talking about
clear crane
runway is kinda runned differently
paper crag
because runaway depends so much on the couple
clear crane
den the normal team
gaunt acorn
the "we would rather stick together than accept owl offers" team
queen drift
ah. when you say owners i think of like.. western orgs
queen drift
yeah thats fiar
paper crag
even before OWL, some runaway players were offered slots on other top tier teams but they wanted to stay with runner etc
gaunt acorn
yup
queen drift
so their best bet is a completely fresh franchise in like s3?
plush trout
Is it still just a 1 yr contract for players?
paper crag
runner wanted to retire because people flamed him for being bad, but the players were like "we're not playing unless we play with runner"
etc
plush trout
or can they sign more yet
paper crag
they tight
paper crag
what's Kaiser up to btw
queen drift
shattering shit
paper crag
wasn't he on some academy team
plush trout
Ah makes sense
gaunt acorn
@queen drift no, i think runaway will likely sign for s2
with an expansion team
maybe even one of the chinese ones, who knows
it'll just be difficult figuring out what flowervin and runner want to do
since they likely won't be leaving korea
not least of which because they have a young child, and runner is still doing his military service
queen drift
they have a child together?
gaunt acorn
yes
queen drift
aww thats cute
gaunt acorn
@queen drift
and yeah, runner doesn't finish military service for over a year
so leaving korea isn't really in the cards rn
queen drift
sorry was just watching runaway vs sk
fuckin comments
"the battle of the bowlcuts"
plush trout
Lol
clear crane
aw tats really cute
gaunt acorn
i'm really excited to see the branding unveiled for all the new teams
hopefully we'll start seeing them by the end of the month
for reference, the first team to unveil their branding last year was the shanghai dragons, on september 28th
i'm guessing we'll see atlanta or guangzhou first, this year
queen drift
im most excited for paris tbh
gaunt acorn
if vancouver has a good colour scheme (presumably, blue green and white) i'm buying all the skins
paris should be cool too
gaunt acorn
yes, that's blue green and white
queen drift
i think the more teams we get closer to eachother the more its going to suck that theres so many koreans
queen drift
it'd be so cool to see a uk-oriented team vs a french team
plush trout
Oh nice
torpid charm
I remember when I first saw Shanghai announce their team and I got really fucking excited
queen drift
but thats not gonna happen lul
plush trout
GREEN MEN AT OWL MATCHES?
queen drift
shanghai colours were dope 
torpid charm
LMAO
gaunt acorn
@plush trout oh my
queen drift
remember when boston was announced and everyone laughed
gaunt acorn
to be fair, we had good reason to laugh
that video was fucking atrocious
philly didn't make a good first impression either
yet somehow they became my favourite team
torpid charm
stop
queen drift
at least they pdjominated
torpid charm
don't talk about that vid
gaunt acorn
@torpid charm that's how we do it in philly
plush trout
I like me some Carpe
queen drift
did they ever explain what it means
torpid charm
fuck #unleashed, bring back #pdomjnate
gaunt acorn
trying to spell #dominate, they fat-fingered it on mobile twitter
plush trout
Lol
queen drift
thats such a big fat finger
gaunt acorn
and ended up with #pdomjnate
queen drift
theres like 3
torpid charm
Beezy made a typo, I still bully him for it
gaunt acorn
philly did one of the better jobs overall building a charismatic team and engaging their fanbase
then you have a team like boston, which, performed pretty well
but doesn't have that many fans
torpid charm
I miss SDB
queen drift
philly is by far my favourite western team but thats like 99% bc of carpe so
torpid charm
STOP
gaunt acorn
its ur fault raven
torpid charm
HOW
plush trout
Having grown up in NY i naturally hate everything Philly but I like Carpe and the Fusion as well
gaunt acorn
u know what u did
plush trout
I also live in LA now so idc about dumb state rivalries with ny lmao
gaunt acorn
yeah, i have no geographical affiliation with philly
torpid charm
I get modded in their discord and everything goes to shit I cry
queen drift
NYXL favourite team, Philly close second
gaunt acorn
i think shock and mayhem did the worst jobs building a fanbase
even excluding the fact they performed poorly in season 1
queen drift
Shock wasn’t that bad
gaunt acorn
they have such small fanbases it's kind of sad
gaunt acorn
both have ugly colour schemes, imo
queen drift
FUCKING kill me
gaunt acorn
that probably didn't help
queen drift
Nrg
torpid charm
That stupid ass Shock orange
plush trout
I mentioned it early but idk what it is about Florida and teams
queen drift
I like shock colours
plush trout
The support is just never there
queen drift
torpid charm
Their away jerseys look cool but overall I’m like nah cause of that color scheme
queen drift
Looks good on tracer and soldier and that’s all I care about
gaunt acorn
grey.. just.. why
torpid charm
Now I have my bright creamsicle orange Sado jersey and I’m very happy
gaunt acorn
creamsicle orange was the much better pick
and surprise surprise
black, a contrasting colour
works better than grey
plush trout
XD
torpid charm
I’m hoping one of the new teams has maroon/burgundy in their color scheme (it’ll most likely happen) because I wanna see how cool it’ll look
torpid charm
That’s what I was thinking yeah
torpid charm
YEEEEEES
gaunt acorn
queen drift
Wow that looks legit
gaunt acorn
either one of those would be cool
torpid charm
A lot of the fan made concepts look nice
torpid charm
Nah gimme more dark
vagrant niche
I wonder who Mayhem is going to get
queen drift
It’s not a meme
gaunt acorn
@queen drift it's a phoenix
queen drift
Confirmed lol
gaunt acorn
it's the symbol of atlanta
queen drift
I thought that was Arizona
gaunt acorn
that's a city named phoenix, yeah
gaunt acorn
all the atlanta sports teams are birds
torpid charm
LOL
gaunt acorn
plush trout
I like the black and red...just not rly sure what that logo looks like xD
torpid charm
Dray, I just realized that they’re all birds, I never knew that before wtf
gaunt acorn
well, not all of them, but y'know
queen drift
Shock has the best icon imo
plush trout
The ooool atlanta thrashers
vagrant niche
umm, so who is mayhem going to hire?
torpid charm
Everyone
vagrant niche
i'll miss Logix
gaunt acorn
i find shock so uninspired
vagrant niche
gaunt acorn
it's just the initials
gaunt acorn
there's the golden gate bridge, i know
the symbolism isn't lost on me
i just find the logo boring
plush trout
Is that what that is? Lol
torpid charm
It represents the bridge and seismic waves of earthquakes and shit, I’m not very into it either
plush trout
I never looked at it closely i just assumed "oh obligatory waves"
torpid charm
I feel like everyone hates NYXL logo
gaunt acorn
and it's kinda timeless in how simple it is
i hated it when i first saw it
now i love it
queen drift
Idk, I hated it until I saw the branding
queen drift
Ye
gaunt acorn
and it wouldn't scream "IM A GAMER. VIDEO GAMES."
it's really malleable and can be used in a lot of different shapes, applications
kinda cool design, really
queen drift
Wdym I like my rgb water cooled red and black spaceship hat
gaunt acorn
even better is how they incorporate the logo into other elements of their branding
such as the typeface
torpid charm
I like the Seoul logo because the tiger just looks so cool to me
gaunt acorn
like this
torpid charm
Okay I won’t front, that’s hot
gaunt acorn
just really clever design
i think it is a lot different than anything else in owl
they took a risk and i think it'll pay off in a few yrs
queen drift
Nyxl origins is the best thing to come out of owl
gaunt acorn
seoul is kind of the antithesis, imo
it looks cool but it's very gamer-y
and can't be used in a lot of different applications
vagrant niche
btw, i don't know if you folks noticed, but on Reddit a lot of people like to refer them as "SD"
gaunt acorn
yes
vagrant niche
SD is pretty bad way to refer to it
gaunt acorn
SD = Seoul Dynasty
vagrant niche
cause
gaunt acorn
SHD = Shanghai Dragons
vagrant niche
Shangai Dragons
they both share the same starting initials
i seen it used on both sides
gaunt acorn
i think philly, boston, and valiant have some decently clever logos too
plush trout
Seoul's looks the most like a pro sports logo to me
vagrant niche
gaunt acorn
not too in-your-face
and adaptable
you could wear the valiant helmet, boston b, or philly p on a hat
queen drift
I like gladiators because of the players
gaunt acorn
and it wouldn't look out of place
gladiators, meanwhile
while i like their overall branding
vagrant niche
Fuel is the best and most iconic one
gaunt acorn
their logo is not good outside gaming at all
gaunt acorn
fuel is good too, yeah
queen drift
I can’t take fuel seriously
gaunt acorn
i forgot to mention them
queen drift
Because of the fucking goats
torpid charm
London logo is too much for me
gaunt acorn
yeah
torpid charm
It’s like all that shit on one thing
queen drift
I don’t remember where t is but the wheelchair fuel
gaunt acorn
although i at least like london kinda resembles a traditional soccer logo
torpid charm
I’ve always thought that
gaunt acorn
fits their branding and geographical location
so it's fine
i'm just not super enthusiastic about it
outlaws are pretty good as well
torpid charm
I’ve loved their logo and color scheme from the beginning
queen drift
I just love everything about NYXL
gaunt acorn
they definitely have the best branding, i agree
queen drift
Being a LWblue fan for so long was so rewarding in s1
torpid charm
Philly was almost black and green
queen drift
LOL
torpid charm
Bruh I’m still so sad about that
gaunt acorn
it was his destiny
torpid charm
There was no place for him
He was essentially signed to be a bench boi which is sad
torpid charm
Yeah I know
queen drift
Eqo just outperformed
torpid charm
EQO was supposed to be there from the beginning but due to Visa issues, he couldn’t be there for S1
queen drift
Ah
torpid charm
That’s why we saw SDB disappear once Eqo came
vagrant niche
do yall think, Shock is going to get super scary?
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but Krusty
queen drift
Why would they
gaunt acorn
krusty cant solve all their problems
torpid charm
^^
vagrant niche
they played good on the last stage tho
queen drift
That’s not a bad concept stay
vagrant niche
when Krusty changed
gaunt acorn
not good enough, imo
queen drift
I like
torpid charm
Also I saw that Paris concept awhile ago and I love it
queen drift
But I like Mistakes/SDB duo more
queen drift
Cuz mistakes is Russian
torpid charm
What
vagrant niche
do we know if Panker is going to go to Glads?
gaunt acorn
almost certainly yes
queen drift
Likely but not confirmed
lethal plank
Random question. How do overwatch league teams make money other than winning stage and season playoffs? Like did most teams make money just by being a team in the league?
gaunt acorn
it's basically confirmed, lol
they got rid of both of their main tanks
and have a limited window to sign him
before the expansion teams can
@lethal plank merch, revenue sharing
torpid charm
I keep forgetting that Panker is a main tank player and not an off tank player
vagrant niche
Shangai made lots of $$$$$
gaunt acorn
panker will do good
vagrant niche
those geguri merch
lethal plank
Is merch a viable money making option though?
vagrant niche
the hordes buy it
queen drift
Yes
torpid charm
I have the SHD key chain thingy
lethal plank
Even in the long run?
gaunt acorn
ticket sales are a drop in the bucket
the big money is made from merch, licensing deals
vagrant niche
there's so many people with shangai logo
torpid charm
Tickets are hella cheap anyways
lethal plank
But normal sports have their own stadium.
vagrant niche
Shangai might be 0-40, but they winning on sales merch
queen drift
they might go the traditional sports route and change the kits every couple seasons
gaunt acorn
ticket sales are a drop in the bucket
queen drift
just to sell more jerseys
lethal plank
Where they can sell tickets at 100usd per
vagrant niche
that's why Geguri didn't got released
neither Fearless nor Diya
they all big money makers
queen drift
i mean yeah thats a reason but they're also the best players on the team
vagrant niche
yall remember the freaking T mobile poll right?
queen drift
minus ado
torpid charm
I need to figure out who’s jersey I wanna cash out on next
gaunt acorn
!tmobilemvp xQc
queen drift
!tmobilemvp xQcTHUMP
gaunt acorn
@torpid charm if crimzo gets signed to the vancouver team
i will buy a jersey immediately
torpid charm
I support that
vagrant niche
don't yall fee like it's a waste of money tho?
torpid charm
No
gaunt acorn
imagine crimzo + xqc + bischu
queen drift
its supporting
gaunt acorn
on the vancouver team
vagrant niche
then your money goes to waste
torpid charm
How
gaunt acorn
plus its rare
lethal plank
Reading on other sports, it not merchandise but TV that makes teams money apparently
vagrant niche
but you aren't donating to the player, you are giving your money to the owner
gaunt acorn
do you think the people who own xqc dallas fuel jerseys regret it
revenue from merch is shared among teams
or will be
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wouldn't donate on their stream be more supportive?
gaunt acorn
why cant you do both
queen drift
^^^
gaunt acorn
whats wrong with wearing a jersey of your favourite player
regardless of where the money ends up
torpid charm
Because Sado doesn’t stream so how am I gonna donate to him
vagrant niche
to me it feels like a waste if you bought lets say, a shadowburn jersey
queen drift
power move
lethal plank
The question is, will merchandise still sell as well as it did in the second season?
gaunt acorn
now you have a vintage jersey
queen drift
yes
vagrant niche
um, i guess i just don't see the appeal of it
queen drift
if not moreso because of expansion teams and new players
vagrant niche
but whatever, do as you wish
gaunt acorn
not the cookie-cutter jerseys of season 1
all the jerseys will likely be unique this time around
to some degree
which is awesome
lethal plank
My jersey is seagull so yeah lol
queen drift
ill get carpe effect saebyeolbe
lethal plank
Probably going to buy a Mickie season 2 as long as he doesn't leave fuel
queen drift
he wont leave fuel
queen drift
dude loves NV
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only one leaving is Chipsa
gaunt acorn
chipsa lol
torpid charm
LMAOOO
lethal plank
Lol chipsa
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torpid charm
Did Chips get released or is he retired now?
queen drift
released
gaunt acorn
@torpid charm released
torpid charm
Okay cause I thought I read something saying he retired but the wording was weird so I didn’t understand
vagrant niche
it was probably one of those thing like, resign or we fire you
gaunt acorn
i think you read "dallas fuel resigns 7 players"
vagrant niche
to put it on a nice way
lethal plank
I freaked out when I read that post.
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Effect was going to quit, but i guess that is not happening
lethal plank
Especially when seeing Mickie and effect
torpid charm
It mentioned him and Seagull in the same paragraph so I immediately thought two retired players??? Whaaaat?
queen drift
if effect quits i quit 😦
gaunt acorn
effect is staying
queen drift
ik
gaunt acorn
so is mickie
torpid charm
He’s been practicing a lot which is good
gaunt acorn
sasuke of overwatch
queen drift
effect is never not practising
vagrant niche
practice is not something Effect has lacked as far as i know
queen drift
that means nothing
torpid charm
I keep forgetting that Kyky exists
gaunt acorn
also
now that teams can customize their jerseys a lot more
seoul, please give us this
please
gaunt acorn
i like that a lot more than their current jerseys
imagine ryujehong wearing it
gachi
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Korean mustard color
queen drift
i think the gold is better as accents
lethal plank
Looks so ugly
torpid charm
Vegas Gold is my least favorite gold. I sported that shit on my fhockey uniform for two years and hated it
gaunt acorn
i like it, it seems like a traditional sports jersey
queen drift
the design is good
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i'll miss my mayhem mcdonalds
queen drift
just dont like the colour order
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torpid charm
More black pls
lethal plank
Yeah it needs a lot more black
torpid charm
I would just choose all dark ass colors for teams
vagrant niche
like the contenders?
i still like the away colors
i wish i could get them with tokens
vagrant niche
i wish i could buy away fuel and mayhem skins
btw, i have like 599 tokens right now, is there a way i can get an extra one?
i wonder if i email bliz
they give it to me
vagrant niche
buy 1 token
torpid charm
Yes, just one (1)
vagrant niche
we aint getting world cup skins with tokens neither
unless for blizcon
talking about blizcon, new character
dam, that's pretty soon
torpid charm
I hate looking at OWL merch because I literally just keep thinking about wanting the ATL All Star jersey for Bren
lethal plank
New character? Didn't we just get one like yesterday?
vagrant niche
so far, all blizcons have new characters
lethal plank
New character: Papa Jeff
lethal plank
Im hoping for a Canadian
sullen orchid
ok so, we have 8 more teams
Atlanta, Washington DC, Toronto, Vancouver, Paris, Guangzhou, Hangzhou, and Chengdu
The chinese teams all go to the pacific division along with Vancouver and the other 4 into the Atlantic division
And with the potential backgrounds from these new teams, do they start messing up some big names in the league?
torpid charm
I also like the change
I loved the All Star jerseys, the overall concept was so cool
queen drift
a lot better
ruby pendant
Nice jersey, would be nice if Dynasty perform better for next season.
gaunt acorn
they likely will
i have no doubt about that
whether they'll be top 3 or anything like that remains to be seen
but all the changes they've made so far have been an improvement, at least
and they haven't even begun signing new talent
(fissure doesn't count, he was traded)
ruby pendant
lol, k
gaunt acorn
i just hope they can give nyxl and london a run for their money this time
rather than wasting away, never making a stage playoffs
torpid charm
They really couldn’t do shit when it came to facing the other full KR rosters and it was kinda sad
ruby pendant
Think Season 2 will be more competitive. New and current teams should at least have a decent idea of how to strategize and manage their teams based on how Season 1 was. Dynasty may still struggle to enter playoff. You can only have hope!!
gaunt acorn
i'm not saying it's a done deal
i just think everything seoul has done so far is an improvement over last season
so the dream is rekindled
queen drift
I really hope runaway wins so it will give blizzard a kick in the ass to how powerful t2 is
Important not powerful
gaunt acorn
runaway in their current state are comparable to a mid-tier/lower-mid-tier owl team