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marsh pumice
pulsar hill
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how

cobalt sierra
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WHAT HAPPENED

balmy wolf
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oof

stuck agate
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ohhhhh my gooosshhhfshafsdhfakwebv

tawny sigil
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not one sided

vagrant niche
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You lose the Winston and Mercy

hidden osprey
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two epic matches so far

wide herald
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LOL THAT HOTBA CROUCH HIDING

green stump
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@cobalt sierra tied 1 to 1 now

frozen perch
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And this is why you don't leave the point guys.

vagrant niche
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and you still hold that???

azure harbor
balmy wolf
stable wadi
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Sado abandoned his team to chase kills

quasi vault
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nice

stable wadi
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and they got rolled

minor oar
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they actually did it

gloomy gorge
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what is this lol

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so good

minor oar
opaque cargo
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sado's move confused me

balmy wolf
wide herald
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Hotba's just like please not like this

cobalt sierra
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more tokens c:

hearty sundial
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Sub sadp jayneO

marsh pumice
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that was insane

frozen perch
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Moral of the story: Don't chase kills when capturing a point.

balmy wolf
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i'm not getting token notifications wtf

feral wing
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Wut

wicked vigil
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what tokens

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:D

feral wing
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How did philly lose that fight

marsh pumice
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fusion thought they had it and lost it, wait what? they didn't had it how can they lose it

feral wing
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..

minor oar
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anyways, you actually get sprays for watching the finals?

green stump
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@sullen berry Im trying to ask some of my friends in Cali about where the game is being streamed, I know theres a Buffalo wild wings somewhere in San Fran thats packed filled with people streaming the game

wicked vigil
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how? :o

balmy wolf
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how

hearty sundial
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Can I watch the game on multiple devices for multiple drops?

minor oar
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idk

vagrant niche
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Yo wtf that was dumb as hell

minor oar
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it was a question

hearty sundial
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🤔

minor oar
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lul

vagrant niche
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you had that fight

marsh pumice
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it's the spitfire power, that's how

vagrant niche
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and they don't contest

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wtf

cobalt sierra
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S ❤ E

balmy wolf
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that was funny asf

stable wadi
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@hearty sundial one per account

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It's not credited by device

opaque cargo
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philly lost because sado thought they had it when they didn

vagrant niche
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Hotba's bomb was worthless

hearty sundial
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Ah

trim wadi
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LUL

green stump
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TIME TO ORDER HOT WINGS!! DOMINOS DONT FAIL ME NOW!!

opaque cargo
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and he ditched point before it swapped

hollow leaf
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Time to find food!

balmy wolf
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sub the ape zaryalol

hearty sundial
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Dinner for me was a burger, hot wings, cherries, grapes, and yogurt

shrewd jacinth
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261k !

marsh pumice
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see i told you, im feeling the london vibe, they going to win this

hearty sundial
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Feelsgoodman

wide herald
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The best moment was just hotba crouching at the end trying to hide LUL

marsh pumice
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i hope

wide herald
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He's just like nope, not like this

rustic perch
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oh btw didn't know that, for people that care about tokens, you gain x2 the tokens during the finals

balmy wolf
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im just happy its close

marsh pumice
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it does feel good, and gives london the moral boost they need to wreck phili

sullen berry
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good luck dancing your way out of the front row seats

balmy wolf
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are you getting token notifications on twitch?

sullen berry
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if you're in there

rustic perch
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you do

balmy wolf
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seeing a team steam roll another isn't fun to watch

minor oar
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cool, so how much would you get in total if you watched all the rounds?

wide herald
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@marsh pumice, I'll fight you mate

elder skiff
sullen berry
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probably over 900

wide herald
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Lord Carpe's carrying this

vagrant niche
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@balmy wolf incorrect, watching dragons was VERY fun

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I miss Freekill

minor oar
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I mean all the rounds this final

vagrant niche
green stump
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THe dragons will return next season...

lethal plank
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can't wait for the new owl teams to be announced tomorrow

minor oar
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yay ShanghaiDragons

green stump
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@lethal plank Im not 😦 No japanese team.....

steady turret
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does the next season start soon?

lethal plank
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do you live in Japan?

green stump
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WHERES MY TOKYO KAIJU!??!?!

sullen berry
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@lethal plank tomorrow is pretty loaded time to announce, can't wait though

vagrant niche
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Japan contender is Korean zaryalol

sullen berry
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when are they going to have time for DJ Khaled?

hearty sundial
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This music is SourPls

sullen berry
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not during halftime, surely??

lethal plank
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@green stump you in Japan? I live in Tokyo near Ikebukuro

green stump
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@lethal plank Nope, but I am Japanese

vagrant niche
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They going to have Anotha ONE zaryalol

hidden osprey
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IRL weebs GWfroggyPoggers

lethal plank
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ah

green stump
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my apologies friend

lethal plank
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France, Australia, USA + 1 team and another Asian team coming

green stump
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Another China Team

hollow leaf
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Guanzhou?

green stump
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And apparently a Thai team

upper niche
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I don't think the Aus team got through, the money isn't there.

sullen berry
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Guangzhou baby

hollow leaf
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Paris and Guangzhou are confirmed

sullen berry
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they're going to be China Number 1

green stump
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Australian team, the true meme team

sullen berry
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Dragons was just beta testig

upper niche
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Paris and Guangzhou are all but confirmed, and the other will probably be Busan in the AsiaPac region.

lethal plank
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Loserfruit already leaked Aus

balmy wolf
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dragons gonna be woke next time

green stump
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wait, didnt they say a canada team was confirmed?

sullen berry
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depends if busan is interested in any way to stake that much for a franchise

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melbourne would

lethal plank
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canadian team = usa team

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cuz you know

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america hat

sullen berry
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that's a pretty ginormous amount of funding for an esports league though

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especially for OCE

hollow leaf
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There are expected to be 6 teams added within the next month

sullen berry
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seattle team would be great, but it wouldn't be canada

green stump
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I have a free pizza from Dominos...WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY DOMINOS?! DID YOU KNOW THIS WOULD HAPPEN!?

lethal plank
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give

worn hornet
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free pizza?

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I'll take a free pizza

upper niche
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Melbourne has the fans but not the owner.

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The two potential owners I spoke to went "nup" because of the franchise terms.

lethal plank
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i have many 50% off coupons but i can't use them because the new dominoes store near me won't take them

sullen berry
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Toronto, you can come outside. your contenders phase wants you to play with some friends!

upper niche
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One of them is a board member of an AFL club, the other owns a massive franchise in Australia.

elder skiff
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I got them BOGOF coupons but it's 1am I think they're shut

vagrant niche
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yes they are right, the Tanks are playing very strong

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Carpe is just not carrying today

upper niche
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So unless PantheonES or Blank had the money, I don't see Aus happening.

worn hornet
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I hope refreshing the page didn't reset my watch timer

vagrant niche
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so far, it has been tanks what's winning games

lethal plank
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I really need to learn dva better lol

vagrant niche
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Gesture is dominating

rustic perch
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@worn hornet you just need to have 1.5h / 3h in total

green stump
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2 orders of hot wings, some cinnamon twists, and a 2 liter of coke..am I missing anything

brisk roost
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Sado and Gesutre are winning the games

upper niche
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and in the case of 'blank' by 'money' i mean a massive private entrepreneur who wants to bankroll it.

balmy wolf
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ANY MOXXERS IN CHAT? (spitfire better win)

lethal plank
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every time i try to dive and coordinate, my team doesn't follow and I get rekt

finite hound
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how do you see how many hours you have

rustic perch
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@finite hound clock

lethal plank
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GO SPITFIRE

balmy wolf
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SPITFIRE POG

dense jasper
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Got stuck in the upper deck at Barclay center today. Tomorrow I'm going to get here super early to get in the lower deck.

vagrant niche
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Sado played like garbage on the last games @brisk roost

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he's overfeeding

pulsar hill
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too agro

vagrant niche
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and not playing point

green stump
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@dense jasper Hows the energy over there?

worn hornet
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I wonder if they're including the pregame Watchpoint & introductions

upper niche
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@dense jasper Oh what, was it not allocated seating? That blows goats.

rustic perch
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stream started 2 hours ago, match started 1 hour ago, depending on from what point the countdown starts

brisk roost
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@vagrant niche He played great on Dorado tho

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But yeah he fed on Oasis

dense jasper
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Its amazing

vagrant niche
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he fed on Dorado but it worke dout

green stump
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@dense jasper was it worth the cost?

brisk roost
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He didn't lol

elder skiff
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With Dva literally dive and hope for the best. Usually even if you don't get a kill you'll get a stagard team for the rest of your team to pick off @green stump

brisk roost
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He was even carrying at some point in Dorado

vagrant niche
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on the last minutes he did

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he overextended

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and went to far

dense jasper
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@upper niche there was, but we got in after work right as the first match started

vagrant niche
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and got killed

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twice

brisk roost
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Yeah but he carried more than he fed in Dorado

dense jasper
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So our seats got taken

vagrant niche
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cause the team helped

lethal plank
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SHOUTOUT TO WATCHERS IN JAPAN

brisk roost
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Exactly

vagrant niche
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in fact

upper niche
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@dense jasper So kick them out?

vagrant niche
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2nd point was lost cause of Sado

brisk roost
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You can't carry alone if your team is gonna do bad

vagrant niche
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trying to go far in

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Birdring got rez

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and they killed him

worn hornet
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hmm. free food at a work event, or watch at home and get skins

vagrant niche
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allowing them to dominate on point B

green stump
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@elder skiff exactly right, its great to see dive there being pulled out, but still gotta wait to see whats next.

lethal plank
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is it just me

upper niche
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what kind of douchebag takes someone elses allocated seat?

dense jasper
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@green stump totally worth the cost. Plus, this is the inaugural season, so this is history

lethal plank
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or is this halftime long?

vagrant niche
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and then they got that sick triple spawn camp

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kill

elfin ermine
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How many matches are they playing?

green stump
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@dense jasper Next season will be greater, more teams...

upper niche
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@elfin ermine Best of 3 Best of 5.

brisk roost
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Sado still got two supports to cripple London giving another time for them to hold

vagrant niche
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we'll see

elfin ermine
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Ok cool ty

dense jasper
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@green stump but it isn't the first season

vagrant niche
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I hope coach slapped him

sly karma
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Shoutout to watchers in germany

elder skiff
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@green stump true that. Knowing your team will follow you is always a bonus lol

upper niche
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@elfin ermine So it could be as few as 6 (7 now cos it's 1-1), or it could go as long as 15+ games.

green stump
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@dense jasper isnt this the inaugural season? They keep saying that

vagrant niche
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it's the first OWL

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yes

green stump
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thats what I thought

elfin ermine
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So how many matches are tonight?

vagrant niche
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we going to have 2nd World cup soon

elfin ermine
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Just the 1?

rustic perch
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ayy germany HYPERS

vagrant niche
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@elfin ermine whoever gets first 3 then it's over

upper niche
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@elfin ermine Just one best-of-5 tonight

vagrant niche
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if not, we going to 5

cobalt sierra
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xqc ???

elfin ermine
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Ok cool

green stump
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Wings have been ordered....

dense jasper
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@green stump I mean this is the first season, and second season won't top how historic this is.

balmy wolf
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Was that sans? Lmao

dusky tinsel
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Oasis is no longer cursed

sullen berry
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back

upper niche
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So if PhiliFusion win tonight we would only get game 3 if LondonSpitfire win the first match tomororw.

sullen berry
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and i still need to finish my drink from last game

green stump
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@dense jasper OHHHHHH thats what you mean, you never know....more teams, more countries open up...

sullen berry
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not going to last on a map 5

vagrant niche
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there's already France, Germany and 2nd Chinese team

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only 3 left

green stump
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Im hoping this goes down to all 3 games....I want this to end 2 v 2, in overtime!

stuck agate
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dude same

balmy wolf
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Was Germany confirmed ?

vagrant niche
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yes

green stump
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with a tracer duel on the point!

full gorge
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whose gonna win

vagrant niche
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it was the first one

full gorge
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and why is it london

vagrant niche
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Berlin hunters i think

balmy wolf
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Oh naisu

green stump
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I want this to end how OWL began..tracer duels on overtime..

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the first one to get off point, loses

balmy wolf
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rip timer

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oh there it is

stuck agate
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imma grab meself a coke real quick

balmy wolf
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It needs to end in torb 1v1 hammer only, no armor packs

heady idol
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man, twitch laggin for me, feelsbad

green stump
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@heady idol its still half time, you're good

sullen berry
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@green stump maybe we might have got that if it were NYXL vs VAL

fallow scroll
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I’m sitting right near Saebyeolbe!

green stump
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@fallow scroll pic or it didnt happen

fallow scroll
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I’d post a pic but u can’t in this chat

green stump
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Then I shall assume it to be a lie!

wicked vigil
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take my water

sullen berry
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DM, I'll pass it on!

stuck agate
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but if it isnt, can you tell sbb that Luminox says hi

rustic perch
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stay hydrated 4Head

hearty sundial
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C9 Jersey and London hat

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Lul

stable wadi
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wait a minute

sullen berry
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@fallow scroll I'll post, check dms

stable wadi
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I could have sworn that the Barclays Center was black

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did the outside fuckin rust

green stump
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...damn..

sullen berry
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@fallow scroll hello there!

stable wadi
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what the hell

balmy wolf
rustic perch
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huge plays 4Head

green stump
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suddenly Im a london fan

marsh pumice
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jhahahahah

azure harbor
marsh pumice
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indeed

balmy wolf
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OwO

wicked vigil
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huge plays forsenGASM

hidden osprey
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OwO

balmy wolf
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im a london fan now

marsh pumice
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😛

rustic perch
fiery reef
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Jesus, I do not envy her .. if my boobs were that big I'd hate life.

final river
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oh no..

balmy wolf
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yo fuk philly

green stump
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lol the twitch chat right now..

quasi vault
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susie kim tmobile mvp

marsh pumice
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she's cute she seems to be an awesome girl

feral wing
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Chat literally spamming "Boobs!"

worn hornet
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If I had that chest I'd never leave the house

stable wadi
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this is the cringiest I've seen twitch chat in a while

azure harbor
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zaryalol chat

rustic perch
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@fiery reef you're just jealous 4HEader

quasi vault
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she got that engagement ring on

fallow scroll
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OMIGOD HIIII

brisk roost
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This is the first time Twitch chat has seen some cleavage so don't mind them

feral wing
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Not only plat chat, but also virgin chat (joke, no ban pls thenkz yo)

fiery reef
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no my friend has triple K boobs and she hates life.

hearty sundial
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12 year old play chat

fallow scroll
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EEEEE IM FANGIRLING so hard right now

fiery reef
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you ahve to get special made bras and they cost a lot of money

hearty sundial
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@fiery reef KKKboobs🤔

solar trout
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fire and fury

marsh pumice
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size doesn't matter

feral wing
rustic perch
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special made bras, you mean like a wheelbarrow?

jagged crater
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twitch chat is honry af

raven badger
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big boobs = back problems

feral wing
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Esports-discussiom becoming general

sullen berry
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witchhunt chat

fallow scroll
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@obj wankenobi#1662 so who are u rooting for? :3

sullen berry
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@fallow scroll take a guess

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😃

worn hornet
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no don't be ridiculous @rustic perch . It's two small wheelbarrows with some cloth tying them together.

hearty sundial
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@worn hornetzaryalol

fallow scroll
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Philly?

rustic perch
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@worn hornet sorry, didn't think of that PepeHands

sullen berry
marsh pumice
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at least susi made all those twitch kids happy

balmy wolf
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london manager got me like OwO

stable wadi
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how to play videogame??????

hidden osprey
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w-w-whats this

stuck agate
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attACK MERCY

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DFHJSDGFKJAGSDFJKASDF

upper niche
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I knew the conversation wouldn't be able to resist going straight to that 😛

raven badger
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a tutorial

rustic perch
marsh pumice
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she's cute and seems awesome so GO LONDON GO

feral wing
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Seems like most people are rooting for philly. (Especially the people at the barclays center)

green stump
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@marsh pumice Just sayin.....when Susi came on....extra 5k viewers suddenly? just saying..

stable wadi
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Mercy not healing her team hyperlul

sullen berry
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I'm upside down no thanks to being on the opposite side of the world @fallow scroll

marsh pumice
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yeh

balmy wolf
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yea

wide herald
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She's thicc, that's all

quasi vault
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philly is basically hometown

balmy wolf
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im going for london now though

hearty sundial
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Bastion 1v3 🤔

rustic perch
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MERCY ACTUALLY HEALING KreyGasm

feral wing
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Barclays center is really philly lobsided

unique summit
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Philly!

feral wing
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Which is bad

stable wadi
marsh pumice
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common LondonSpitfire 2 more

hearty sundial
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BASTION NOT BEHIND SHIELD

vagrant niche
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This video is Horrible for noobs, that mercy is using pistol too much

worn hornet
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um...

stable wadi
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lmao this is the fuckin funniest video

feral wing
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Because philly only win when people are against them

rustic perch
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MERCY FRONTLINER

wide herald
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Man all these explanations for these disney kids....

hearty sundial
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ATTACK BASTION

worn hornet
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that ult looked like a huge c9 risk

balmy wolf
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that d.va highlight transition was juicy

stable wadi
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"but the explanation video said I can just walk into a bastion"

feral wing
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ResidentSleeper

wide herald
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Let's all pray to lord carpe

rustic perch
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what

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poko for boombox?

feral wing
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POKO

vagrant niche
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that D.Va walking into bastion zaryalol

feral wing
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FOR BOOMBOX

wide herald
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All hail lord carpe

runic stag
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waht

sullen berry
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HELLOB THERE POKO

stable wadi
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the video was clearly based on a bronze game

fluid wagon
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this is.. odd.

stuck agate
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i mean

feral wing
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Hotba supporr

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Support

stuck agate
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i think even bronze mercys know not to bring the pistol out that much

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i hope

sullen berry
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sugoii

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my boys

cobalt sierra
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poko for boombox ????

hearty sundial
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Mei DF?

upper niche
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People need to STFU on their opinions of when Mercy should pistol and not.

hearty sundial
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I'm dumb

rustic perch
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@stuck agate i'm certain they don't know

sullen berry
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profit's not playing around

feral wing
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Neptuno knows when to whip out the weapon tho

stable wadi
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akashra - Today at 7:25 PM
People need to STFU on their opinions of when Mercy should pistol and not.

the joke is she wasn't healing her team at all in the video

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it's fine, calm down

runic stag
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hotba on zen, did boombox break a goddamn arm during the break

stuck agate
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@rustic perch o no

upper niche
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Players know what they're going for, and the constant "you used your pistol too much" any time Mercy brings out pistol makes you look like a massive idiot.

green stump
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someone in the pro channel said it right "I wonder how disney felt about Susi there..."

stable wadi
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dude

feral wing
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Neptuno is a battle mercy god

stable wadi
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we're shitting on the map explanation video

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it's fine

upper niche
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@stable wadi That's the problem. people see pistol = not healing - it's like STFU.

balmy wolf
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Mercy should pistol at ALL time

stable wadi
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you're missing what I'm saying here

feral wing
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He had over 40 eliminations in one match

runic stag
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what is this comp lmao

worn hornet
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Disney said it was the breast

balmy wolf
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3dps 1 healer

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Is this quick play

stable wadi
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we're joking over a silly-looking map explanation video

upper niche
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yeah - and you're sounding like the same kind of tool, not being funny.

balmy wolf
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also ye

green stump
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@worn hornet ........you.......you win this round....

stable wadi
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wow

balmy wolf
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waddup with this comp doe

stable wadi
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it's not that serious man

balmy wolf
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OOF

stable wadi
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I say that as a former healer main even

fallow scroll
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I’m a torb main

rustic perch
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can we stop fighting about if mercy should take her pistol out or not, the finals are going on PepeHands

upper niche
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then you should know to just STFU about giving advice like that.

stable wadi
green stump
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guys guys...finals

heady idol
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POKO

balmy wolf
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ladies ladies

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ur both pretty

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stfu and watch

stable wadi
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must've missed the video

balmy wolf
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I can’t believe this comp worked

stuck agate
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OOF

stable wadi
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GOTTEM FUSION

balmy wolf
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OOOOOo EQ goin in

marsh pumice
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waste of barrage

upper niche
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It's a goddamn explanation video to introduce non-players to the game.

stuck agate
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move ON

brisk roost
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Lets go!!

fluid wagon
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EQ Oh myy

wide herald
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That profit desperation play

stable wadi
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EQO finally found his footing

balmy wolf
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thats an interesting compet

grand bramble
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Why isn’t Snillo playing if Hotba is just gonna play Tracer instead of tank?

green stump
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WINGS ARE HERE!!!

heady idol
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Man I love Hotba Tracer

stable wadi
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good question actually

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where the fuck is Snillo

balmy wolf
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NOOOO

upper niche
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@wide herald Another wasted ult? Who did that last week on Dorado?

sullen berry
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@grand bramble predictability

stable wadi
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rip hotba

runic stag
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and now Carpe on Brig

pulsar hill
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might want him on something else on def

runic stag
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hmm

heady idol
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oops caster cursed him

stable wadi
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Why do they have Carpe on Brig

sullen berry
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snillo's brigitte not bad, but that'ss all we've seen he can play confidently

upper niche
#

I can't remember which match it was... there was a solo ult on payload on Dorado C.

grand bramble
#

@sullen berry But everyone was praising Hotba’s Tracer and saying how they were expecting it ???

upper niche
#

@stable wadi It's the sniper meta.

#

😉

sullen berry
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wide herald
#

God that was weird not seeing widow on eichenwalde

runic stag
#

there you go carpe lmao

hidden osprey
#

Gesture wtf u doin

sullen berry
#

just those inconsistent statements

upper niche
#

Carpe = sniper, brig = sniper meta, so... brig = sniper? 😃

sullen berry
#

anyone can make them legit these days

balmy wolf
#

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

stuck agate
#

oh jumped

heady idol
#

god Hanzo is so tilting ahaa

wide herald
#

Snipe with the mace throw

stuck agate
#

THAT WAS LIKE MARIO KILLING A MUSHROOM

balmy wolf
#

OOF

runic stag
#

Carpe was just like "Oh right i forgot i click on heads"

marsh pumice
#

wow they are doing crazy plays man

wide herald
#

Knock them into the hole

balmy wolf
#

gd

marsh pumice
#

sometimes i get like what? yeh they did it

vagrant niche
#

things looking pretty dire for Fusion

balmy wolf
#

bird is dirty asf

stuck agate
#

air assassination

wide herald
#

SADO?!?!?!!?

vagrant niche
#

@brisk roost i hope you watching how bad Sado is playing

stable wadi
#

GOTTEM

fluid wagon
#

POKO

upper niche
#

I remember this part of the match, this is where LAV got owned by Spitfire.

balmy wolf
#

Big

stuck agate
#

OOHOOO

candid cedar
#

poko GWfroggyPoggers

balmy wolf
#

POKO

stable wadi
#

GO GO P O K O

heady idol
#

LMAO

#

EQO

stable wadi
#

eqo why

marsh pumice
#

it's probably no9t enough or is it

serene tendon
#

what the hell is eqo doing

wide herald
#

audio guy?

stable wadi
#

EQO stop

#

please

marsh pumice
#

1 minute more

stable wadi
#

you're ruining this for everyone

marsh pumice
#

you can do it london

runic stag
#

Fusion pulling defeat from the jaws of victory

balmy wolf
#

eq making bad predictions

wide herald
#

All pray to lord carpe!

heady idol
#

OMG

upper niche
#

now he can open up.

stable wadi
#

POKO YOU MADMAN

stuck agate
#

hoooowww

fluid wagon
#

POKO

heady idol
#

POKO

candid cedar
#

poko pls

stuck agate
#

aBSOLUTELY MADDENING

upper niche
#

nope, res'd birdring

balmy wolf
#

poko is woke

marsh pumice
#

another self and nus caught again..

rustic perch
#

poko did put the bomb right on the fucking edge

upper niche
#

annnd hes dead again ahah

stable wadi
#

EQO s t o p

hidden osprey
#

OwO

fluid wagon
#

wtf

#

eqo quit

azure harbor
runic stag
#

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER AGAIN

marsh pumice
#

poko is doing an awesome job, the rest not so much

wind umbra
#

what is the map score rn i can’t watch

serene tendon
#

finally

balmy wolf
#

yea, poko putting in work

stable wadi
#

EQsoftthrOw

heady idol
#

this is fucking ladder man, doing good plays and then no onetransitions

balmy wolf
#

Poko has gotten so many huge kills what is happening

stable wadi
#

Poko reminds me of Geguri on Shanghai right now

balmy wolf
#

niiice

stable wadi
#

Entire team choking and trying to be the anchor

wind umbra
#

what’s the score

stable wadi
#

1-1

#

Unless you mean the current match

upper niche
#

Spitfire will get this one.

balmy wolf
#

OOF

fluid wagon
#

wtf

hidden osprey
#

Uber the rap king

silk tiger
#

Rapgod doing work

balmy wolf
#

lmao

stuck agate
#

oh SNEP

wind umbra
#

does fusion look like they could send it to a game five or a third series?

pulsar hill
#

eqo wtf

stable wadi
#

eqo literally lost it for them

pulsar hill
#

eqo throw

frank terrace
#

sado and eqo

#

throwing

balmy wolf
#

ye eq messed up

rustic perch
#

yea this one was legit on eqo

frank terrace
#

sado died so many times

wide herald
#

I believe in lord carpe full hold

vagrant niche
#

EQO and SADO were pretty weak

sullen berry
#

@fallow scroll nice spot next to SBBhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472562159142961153/472562212347838474/image.jpg

vagrant niche
#

Poko carried hard

sullen berry
#

damn

brisk roost
#

Yeah EQO can't land those rockets yo

stable wadi
#

I'd place it more on EQO than Sado honestly

feral wing
#

New universal choke sign lads

sullen berry
#

he's actually there

stable wadi
#

Tanks can't tank properly if there's no pressure

frank terrace
#

EQO should've switched earlier

stable wadi
#

And EQO had zero pressure

runic stag
#

and no Boombox, like ok Fusion

fluid wagon
#

yeah, that was on eqo.

frank terrace
#

they prob could've capped second point if he went brig earlier

stable wadi
#

and I mean like zero pressure

#

negative pressure

#

5v6 tbh

feral wing
#

Philachokeia fusion

lethal plank
#

eqo throwing

heady idol
#

feeling ult charge lul

lethal plank
#

report eqo

worn hornet
#

V A C U U M

balmy wolf
#

eq mind aswell play torb

grand bramble
#

I didn’t watch right then, What did EQO do?

stable wadi
#

it's free ult charge

green stump
#

@fallow scroll damn man! you are next to godliness

quasi vault
#

nothing

lethal plank
#

he kept his ult for like 6 mins

stable wadi
#

Havana - Today at 7:34 PM
I didn’t watch right then, What did EQO do?

Played Pharah into double snipers

#

lul

vagrant niche
#

he should have gone Junkrat or Hanzo

heady idol
#

he had like 20% accuracy on pharah and stayed on her for too long

#

lul

stuck agate
#

CAN YOU TELL SBB WE SAID HI @fallow scroll

stable wadi
#

not even like periodically

#

the entire game

#

pharah into double snipes whole game

#

soft throw

runic stag
#

EQO get the fuck off of Pharah

frozen perch
#

wtf? is philadelphia throwing? they're solo healing...

stable wadi
#

HE'S ON HER AGAIN

heady idol
#

EQO on Pharah again

stable wadi
#

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lethal plank
#

lol eqo pharah

balmy wolf
#

roadhog dancing is very wholesome

stable wadi
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

lethal plank
#

he's getting subbed out

heady idol
#

solo healer is meta in OWL

sullen berry
#

this could be a wrecking ball of a series once they cap this

lethal plank
#

he's gonna get subbed out

#

and trade

#

traded

vagrant niche
feral wing
#

They literally get huge bombs on the mercy all the time and sometimes end up in 6v3 situations but still choke

stable wadi
#

PHARAH INTO DOUBLE SNIPES ROUND 2 HOLY FUCK

#

WHAT ARE YOU DOING

feral wing
#

Wtf

stable wadi
#

god they're getting rolled

feral wing
#

Philachokeia fusion

balmy wolf
#

Eqo got both snipers...

green stump
#

if Philli full holds this....

solar trout
#

pulled pork

#

clever

candid cedar
#

does eqo want philly to lose

rustic perch
#

1 fight and almost everyone has their ult

candid cedar
#

wtf

wide herald
#

Philly easy full hold

runic stag
#

nice fight tho

marsh pumice
#

wow intense fight

stable wadi
#

I think he got them that one time because they weren't expecting him to be an idiot and keep playing the Pharah so we'll see what happens

frank terrace
#

eqos doing solid rn on defense

#

alrdy has barrage

sullen berry
#

this is the slowest that spitfire could actually C9 here

heady idol
#

Lul

marsh pumice
#

fusion great job

frozen perch
#

Philadelphia's neck is tied to the Mercy

stable wadi
#

wow

#

gg eqo

green stump
#

GET THAT FULL HOLD!! I WANNA SEE IT!!

fluid wagon
#

NEPTUNO

frank terrace
#

gesture dies first both fightsz

#

lul

heady idol
#

camera goes onto eqo

#

missed 5 missiles in a row

wind umbra
#

pharah into double sniper isn’t throwing when ur eqo, but how he’s playing from what ur saying is throwing

marsh pumice
#

gesture again

rustic perch
lethal plank
#

ok what's london doing

#

are they not trying?

frank terrace
#

gesture throwing

opaque cargo
#

birdring around the rosie

heady idol
#

please throw london 🙏

runic stag
#

If Philly full holds...

stable wadi
#

paid throws on both sides today

opaque cargo
#

the puns are flying this match

frozen perch
#

they're both solo healing pogchimp

lethal plank
#

paid throws

wind umbra
#

what hero is gesture on

fluid wagon
#

neptuno is a great healer, jesus christ.

hidden osprey
#

this one healer comp on both sides is so dumb to watch

steady turret
#

aww son

frank terrace
#

@wind umbra orisa

runic stag
#

is pharah just good on this point, its cool how EQO is playing behind the roog

#

roof

heady idol
#

no full hold

wind umbra
#

gesture is like the best orisa how is he dying

balmy wolf
#

rip

dusky tinsel
#

LEGGO

balmy wolf
#

london aint playing

stuck agate
#

THAT HOLD THO

dusky tinsel
#

COME ON LONDON

lethal plank
#

nono

frozen perch
#

gg phile

serene tendon
#

eqo staying on the phara

lethal plank
#

xqc best orisa

cobalt sierra
#

3-3

lethal plank
#

eqo staying on pharah LOL

marsh pumice
#

man closed site and open twitch app and now the ad's crap im missing gameplay

wind umbra
#

in OWL is what i meant :pepehands:

runic stag
#

STILL Pharah

stable wadi
#

EQO

#

swap

#

off

marsh pumice
#

missed this part

stable wadi
#

pharah

cobalt sierra
#

JESUS

stable wadi
#

please

#

someone stop this man

runic stag
#

what have they been scrimming that they came to this?

lethal plank
#

eqo was rezzed

stable wadi
#

Poko what was that

hollow leaf
#

Looks like London doesn't even need to force Fusion to Junkertown

balmy wolf
#

the first hold, pharah isnt bad, but after that, u need to switch

lethal plank
#

he couldn't swap

stable wadi
#

you should've backed off

rustic perch
#

philly PepeHands

green stump
#

Here it is..the big fight....

marsh pumice
heady idol
#

eh, he got flanked and bursted

fluid wagon
#

wtf eqo.

lethal plank
#

and here it is

#

eqo still on pharah

#

because he has ult

wind umbra
#

what map and what point are they on?

lethal plank
#

is he a fucking gold rank?

wide herald
#

Here's the carpe explosion

balmy wolf
#

GOTEM

hidden osprey
#

BDOSIN PogChamp

wide herald
#

Widow time

stable wadi
#

god

frank terrace
#

EQO

runic stag
#

"they actually spawn inside a castle"

frank terrace
#

LUL

stable wadi
#

thanks eqo

balmy wolf
#

fucked up that bomb doe

marsh pumice
#

bam

candid cedar
#

gg

heady idol
#

gg

lethal plank
#

gg

pulsar hill
#

eqo throw

balmy wolf
#

gg

hidden osprey
#

gg

lethal plank
#

eqo throw

stable wadi
#

eqo soft throw

dusky tinsel
#

BDOSIN IS GOD

lethal plank
#

report

cobalt sierra
#

eqthrow

hearty sundial
#

Feelsbadman

stuck agate
#

MMMM

green stump
#

no..Bdoson killing Widow there won them that game

lethal plank
#

EQO CONFIRMED TRADED

hidden osprey
#

could go to a map 5

hollow leaf
#

GG Fusion. No re

wind umbra
#

what’s next map

vagrant niche
#

and ANOTHA ONE

green stump
#

If Bdosin didnt kill Widow, Phili might have held that

shrewd jacinth
#

volskaya

wide herald
#

Volskaya

frank terrace
#

bdosin is a legend

balmy wolf
stable wadi
#

If EQO had just

#

not run pharah into double snipes

hidden osprey
#

that was such a smart play from Bdosin

heady idol
#

even Carpe isn't really popping off tbh

stable wadi
#

they'd have had better odds

wide herald
#

And then it's junkertown

sullen berry
#

ROUND 2: ATTACK OF THE IRN BRU

hidden osprey
#

EQO even looked at that corner to see if he was there

north beacon
#

i don't know who to root for. i don't really like philly as a city so i guess i'll root for london

frank terrace
#

@stable wadi they have preplanned comps

stable wadi
#

What does that even mean

green stump
#

No....EQO had a good idea, but without Carpe there to back him up, he just got singled out..Bdosin MVP that round

frank terrace
#

they plan their comps ahead of time @stable wadi

heady idol
#

even casters called him out tho, like "why isn't he going genji or something"

green stump
#

They didnt expect tracer to be up there..

frozen perch
#

Phile's only hope is Volskya

stable wadi
#

Sure people practice comps ahead of time but you're saying that as if this is League and once you lock you can't swap

#

If it's not fuckin working

#

then you switch

#

and it wasn't working

sullen berry
#

wonder if fusion scrimmed with uprising after their matchup

#

they might have hints

stuck agate
#

I want philly to win so we go to a map 5

wicked vigil
#

^

upper niche
#

285k viewers on twitch. Come on, let's see 300.

sullen berry
#

^

balmy wolf
#

yee

stable wadi
#

EQO was easily the weakest link due to his hero choice and he got owned by the snipers every time except for once

sullen berry
#

it's not a million

marsh pumice
#

London oh London you are the one in my heart since the beggining of the owl dayzzzz ohhh ohhh im sing this song in a fire noteeeee oh hh ohhhhh Londonnnn!

balmy wolf
#

now time to cheer for philly

sullen berry
#

but definintely a QUARTER of a million

green stump
#

@stable wadi thats...not how the pro league works

warm abyss
#

Philly deserves this win

dense jasper
#

Moved to floor seats! #barclayconnect

stable wadi
#

What do you mean that's not how it works

#

It didn't pan out, he could have changed

#

he didn't, they lost

#

Even the casters were like "EQO time to switch mate"

tropic idol
#

gg ez

wind umbra
#

volskaya is good for projectile heros and eqo beats profit IMO

tropic idol
#

😉

green stump
#

@stable wadi You have to have confidence in your plan of attack, if you switch constantly you lose huge amounts of benefits, sometimes its BETTER TO TAKE THE RISK and have another player cover your weaknesses to have a huge asset instead. Thats how teams play in OWL, they take huge risks for huge payouts to win. Thats the norm for teams.

Its not an individual thing like we play, they have larger pools of strategies

candid cedar
#

rawkus :0

stuck agate
#

RAWKUS

tawny sigil
#

A Wild Rawkus appears

stable wadi
#

That argument is contradictory; if they have larger pools of strategies, then sticking to one just makes the call seem even worse. Even if you're going to make the ult economy argument, EQO held his ult for almost the entire first round

marsh pumice
#

raw the big kus

stable wadi
#

It's not as if he was really shifting his ult position

#

So again, bad call.

brisk roost
#

RAWKUS!

green stump
#

you cant blame EQO for that, Bdosin is what won that game@stable wadi , not the bad pick..Bdosin took away Carpe's widow, that was way way more important

sullen berry
#

@tropic idol HELLO THERE

fallow scroll
#

Btw in case u were wondering, the VIP seats r on the floor of the arena

tropic idol
#

kia ora

#

its so late

stable wadi
#

I can definitely blame EQO for making a bad call that weakened the overall standing of his team, EQO making a bad tactical choice and Bdosin playing well aren't mutually exclusive elements

tropic idol
#

if i type at regular speed my parents will wake up lmao

marsh pumice
#

LondonSpitfire go bro you can do it, just win this match and you can lose next

green stump
#

thats....thats just wrong, but whatever you want to think Keeks, its not like you are better than them

upper niche
#

aren't the coaches in their ear the whole time?

sullen berry
#

Rawkus mate ✌

fallow scroll
#

no biwankenobi#1662 so r u here too?

worn hornet
#

oh hey they didn't say F O R C E F U L L Y this time

stable wadi
#

"that's just wrong" is the response of someone without an argument.

green stump
#

@stable wadi this isnt the place to fight, take it to DM, I gave you an argument as well, you just didnt like it

shrewd jacinth
#

lmao the team headers are swapped

stable wadi
#

You gave me an argument, I refuted it, and instead of stating why my refutation is invalid, you simply said "that's just wrong, and also you're worse than them and couldn't possibly understand."

#

That's not a counterargument.

green stump
#

@stable wadi I said take it to DM

frozen perch
#

soooolldier

stuck agate
#

mmm whats up with the names

frozen perch
#

good to see u

upper niche
#

Pft, like hell it isn't ;p When you go criticising professional players as an armchair critic, good luck.

fluid wagon
#

Neptuno single healer???

green stump
#

GOATS!

fluid wagon
#

MOIRA

upper niche
#

wow.

stuck agate
#

SLAMBULANCE

half saffron
#

Neptuno Hybrid dps healer

stable wadi
#

FINALLY MOIRA PLAY

#

P R A I S E

cobalt sierra
#

GOATS YEET

vagrant niche
#

LETS GO GOATS

stuck agate
#

goats?

balmy wolf
#

BIRD AND PROFIT

hidden osprey
#

how the heck did Gesture get up there

fluid wagon
#

...the goats are dead.

stable wadi
#

eugh

heady idol
#

..goats on volskaya?

marsh pumice
#

yeh moira is probably a good pick but don't think is enough for my london

hidden osprey
#

PepePains

upper niche
#

ahaha "young people look away"

stuck agate
#

oooof

stable wadi
fluid wagon
#

and they stopped??

frozen perch
#

dat. dragonstrike.

shrewd jacinth
#

LOOOOOL

hollow leaf
#

But that Birdring shot though...

marsh pumice
#

🤔 😄

serene tendon
#

they thought it was going for bridge, but he went behind them

empty widget
#

oof

hidden osprey
#

Phili just gonna go 6 ults in

#

calling it now

upper niche
#

4 ults up for Spitfire, ouch.

wind umbra
#

how many ults up for philly

heady idol
#

OMG

balmy wolf
#

OOOOFFF

marsh pumice
#

ahhahahaha

stable wadi
#

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

hidden osprey
#

that was huge

fluid wagon
#

WOWOWOOWOW

balmy wolf
#

GOD DAMn

rustic perch
#

P Pog K Pog

stuck agate
#

OOOHHHH

upper niche
#

niiiiiice

marsh pumice
#

omg that was funy

serene tendon
#

POKO YOU MONSTER

wind umbra
#

WHAT HAPPENED

tawny sigil
#

POKO MAN

stuck agate
#

MY GOOOD

marsh pumice
#

that was 200iq play

cobalt sierra
#

WHAT

wind umbra
#

how many did he get

worn hornet
#

motha fuckin gravity bomb

cobalt sierra
#

MY STREAM FROZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEE

wide herald
#

POKO SPIRIT BOMB!

balmy wolf
#

EQ and POKO

wicked vigil
#

holy shit what a combo

stuck agate
#

I Cant wait to watch that replay

hidden osprey
#

Fury didn't eat the grav NotLikeSoldier

fading wasp
#

ANA PogChamp

brisk roost
#

NICE ONE POKO

hidden osprey
#

Neptuno with the reddit Lucio

wind umbra
#

how many did the bomb get?

hidden osprey
#

RedShell GWskarzzLUL

north beacon
#

i've never thought to combo grav with a demech self destruct

upper niche
#

wtf is this from spitfire

supple prism
#

4?

heady idol
#

wut

hollow leaf
#

Philadelphia Fusion Legion.

upper niche
#

tehre it is.

hidden osprey
#

Why is Bdosin on Ana?

wind umbra
#

why wouldn’t bdosin be on ana

hidden osprey
#

Ana is almost a throw pick these days

vagrant niche
#

SADO throwing so hard

rustic perch
#

because ana counters their comp

wind umbra
#

i’m not watching live so that’s a legitimate question

fluid wagon
#

double sleep on poko tho.

hidden osprey
#

I guess

shrewd jacinth
#

its a throw pick in comp

#

not in pro play

hidden osprey
#

but poko can easily eat nades

upper niche
#

"throwing"? oh ffs.

shrewd jacinth
#

plat chat even in discord

heady idol
#

owl uses ana as a "panic 2cp" healer

north beacon
#

i think the bomb got 2 on its own

shrewd jacinth
#

jesus fuck

heady idol
#

they use her for long range heals from spawn

hidden osprey
#

ye I noticed that

marsh pumice
#

they wont do more progress, london going to hold now

frozen perch
#

mei and ana being played? pogchimp

wide herald
#

In comp, randos are too hard to work with

upper niche
#

it's a professional championship game and you're suggesting a player is trying to lose?

wide herald
#

In pro play, they know how to work together

hidden osprey
#

Mei GWfroggyPoggers

green stump
#

GO MEI GO!!

stable wadi
#

Moh - Today at 7:53 PM
Ana is almost a throw pick these days

Damage boost and nade are still really strong

wide herald
#

So three tanks and three heals is amazing

balmy wolf
#

dat mei

stable wadi
#

With proper coordination Ana is very rewarding

upper niche
#

oh wow Mei being used for mobility like that.

frozen perch
#

wow, great mei

green stump
#

@tulip jewel Your mei, showing it how its done!

hidden osprey
#

I never said they're trying to lose, if you actually think that, then I have a bridge to sell you

frozen perch
#

is the OWL patch 1.25?

sullen berry
#

I missed the profit on mei onsluaght

stable wadi
#

Especially since Ana can basically delete Zenyatta's ult with a normal ability

frozen perch
#

or 1.26?

fading wasp
#

Anti nade vs. a triple tank would be pretty powerful too.

half saffron
#

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tulip jewel
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Why did I think it was someone else pinging me?

balmy wolf
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Hanzo patch without sym

frozen perch
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damn, so no mei buff.

upper niche
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A throw pick is very different in amateur online competitive versus in a coordinated professional team that has a plan and know show to work with each other.

tulip jewel
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Why did I think it was anyone but you?

green stump
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@tulip jewel XD WHAT DOES THAT MEAN!?

heady idol
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goats is really strong (3 tank 3 healer), but it's better on maps where the defense doesn't have easy high ground, cuz dva zarya rein lucio moira brig have bad highground combat

sullen berry
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@tulip jewel heya, you've been missed!

wind umbra
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@upper niche they don’t have to be intentionally throwing, they may just be playing subpar

upper niche
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That doesn't mean they're doing it on purpose.

tulip jewel
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@sullen berry ow-d and comp-d are my home now

hidden osprey
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@upper niche again, you're being extremely obtuse, Ana has had a very low pickrate in OWL and that's why I mentioned it, maybe learn to read.

heady idol
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push in!

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PUSH INNNN

upper niche
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"learn to read"? Read what.

stable wadi
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Low pickrates don't necessarily mean "throw picks"

green stump
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GUYS

stable wadi
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It can also mean "heavily situational"

green stump
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FINALS

hidden osprey
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"Ana is almost a throw pick these days"

wind umbra
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i come for commentary on the game because i can’t watch and i get ARGUMENTS.

heady idol
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used valk, 6v4, don't push in. Gahhhh

hidden osprey
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"almost a throw pick"

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I never said they were throwing, again, read.

heady idol
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why!

upper niche
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And that only applies to pubs

supple prism
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cant watch?

worn hornet
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get a huge stagger and someone switch ty symmetra

stable wadi
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Debating what's going on in the game is a form of commentary tho

runic stag
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"Fusion HAD an opening" is a sentence that has been said too many times tonight

upper niche
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to suggest a playerers in a professional match is throwing just makes you look stupid.

sullen berry
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situationally so

upper niche
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That, or you don't understand what "throwing" means.

hidden osprey
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Once again, seeing as you don't seem to be understanding, I never said they were throwing

green stump
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@hidden osprey @upper niche enough guys

upper niche
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You called it a throw pick.

heady idol
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gg

hidden osprey
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Yes, a throw pick, but not throwing

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Read.

marsh pumice
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told you

supple prism
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3 ults and get no kills

rustic perch
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what the fuck guys can you stop already

silk tiger
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So glad uberx is casting day 1

frozen perch
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GG Philly

upper niche
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So it's a stupid thing to say because it doesnt apply.

vagrant niche
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this is done

balmy wolf
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Winnable lets go Philly

green stump
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@upper niche STop

runic stag
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where the hell was Fusion

tawny sigil
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You guys are still arguing eichenwald?

elfin spade
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man, Philly is taking a pounding

vagrant niche
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we done tonight

runic stag
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jesus shut the fuck up

stable wadi
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The argument is that Ana isn't a throw pick or close to being one, and is just a situational pick instead.

hidden osprey
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You're just extrapolating a word as a be all, end all

wind umbra
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ITS W O NNABLE

vagrant niche
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🇬 🇬

hidden osprey
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Then again, plat chat is in full force today so...

wicked vigil
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I don't think Fusion can pull through tbh

leaden fable
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Carpe is throwing

wind umbra
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moh ur a part of that

stable wadi
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A throw pick implies "there is basically no way that this pick can be good at this level of skill"

stuck agate
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jesus guys move on

stable wadi
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Also "plat chat" is just a nebulous way of saying "people have opinions I don't like>"

heady idol
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fusion is ded

half saffron
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the poko triple tank picks are confusing me

hidden osprey
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Nope, Ana has an extremely low pick rate throughout the entire season

heady idol
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rip

silk tiger
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Sheesh just let the argument go

hollow leaf
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Even if Philly takes it here, they're screwed on Junkertown

wind umbra
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what’s even happening in the game

sullen berry
hidden osprey
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It's partly the reason why Dynasty have fallen off with Ryujehong not being able to play the one hero he's good at

supple prism
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philly struggling

limber pine
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Fusion has looked much worse with boombox not in

marsh pumice
wicked vigil
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tsk such a dead game

sullen berry
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the streamers have < 800 viewers

marsh pumice
stable wadi
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@limber pine agree

green stump
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called someone to take care of it

wind umbra
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wait where tf is boombox

sacred wigeon
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yuuup

stable wadi
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where's my crazy zenyatta plays

pulsar hill
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also its on disney xd and other channels

heady idol
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he got subbed out

upper niche
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@silk tiger Yeah I already just muted the both of them I cbf with some of the BS you get here.

sullen berry
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@limber pine agreed

runic stag
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it begs the question WHY did they change Boombox out?

supple prism
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subbed out after first map for poko

bitter loom
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GG

worn hornet
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JasonParadise VoDs are a guilty binge of mine

marsh pumice
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yeh ow streams are really low not like fortnighter

wind umbra
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i mean that makes sense for volskaya with high ground but what was second map

heady idol
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poko probably better in scrims, but I'm surprised philly is being so inflexible

runic stag
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oh my god Moh

upper niche
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Spitfire are gonna roll this.