POGGERS
#esports-discussion
vast horizon
polar pasture
poggers indeed dude
something needs to happen with the way this is set up
the first round bye put so much hiatus rust on NYXL and LAV, it was probably pretty hard to get into a mindset ready to take on the top contenders
i guess im still thinking about it because of the complete ass-whipping on king's row
that just seems so improbable to me
stoic crater
idle beacon
is jake hittin on geguri? 😄
sullen berry
Going to meet the IOC is one heck of a place to go on a date
I'd love the idea of Muma playing wingman and giving Jake her number
idle beacon
But boy, after watching a happy and confident NYXL all season, seeing Pine so heartbroken is so difficult. :sob:
BOOHOO
who cares about that fat moron
brisk roost
@idle beacon Why so edgy
Oh that's right a 40 year old man has nothing better to do
So he insults a young talented player to make himself feel better
north falcon
I can taste the salt from here @idle beacon
idle beacon
salt about what?
idle beacon
somebody said days ago, it'd be ark's fault that nyxl lost vs phili .. why are peops blamin ark?
sullen berry
Why not, he's cleary not carrying as battle mercy
idle beacon
battlemercy?
sullen berry
As he bats off Neptuno gracefully
This is a common theme for sore losers in any sport
Dallas Fuel it was kyky
idle beacon
i haven't watched any games lately. jjonak being useless?
sullen berry
Outlaws it was lack of tracer main
tawny sigil
ark is the reason philly couldn't finish dorado with 3 points
for those that werent paying attention
sullen berry
Is it purely ark's responsibility? Why not Libero
There's no end to pointing out individuals in NYXL
idle beacon
nono. i was askin WHY it should be ark's fault
sullen berry
They lost as a team
idle beacon
somebody claimed it was ark's bad performance or whatever
tawny sigil
i blame the meta
brisk roost
It's the meta that brought NYXL down
sullen berry
Ark and Pine have it rough
brisk roost
I didn't see the rest of the game
sullen berry
Personally, I blame the wife meta /sbbwifenocarry
brisk roost
But from the first two maps Pine was popping off
idle beacon
what is the meta atm?
tawny sigil
my prediction for season 2 are becoming a reality
sullen berry
For some odd reason, it was all up in the air
upper niche
Theonly thing I'm predicting for Season 2 is that Shanghai will win a match
sullen berry
Lot of pressure to play flex dps and minimum 2 snipers at any moment kind of meta
brisk roost
Triple tank meta
sullen berry
GOAT meta more like GET OUT OF META
tawny sigil
SBB fighting a divorce over not winning season 1, pine is knee deep into depression and Jjonak is BALDING... the horror ... nyxl is now on florida level
upper niche
I'm predicting a pylon-based support for BlizzCon so the meta may change 😃
tawny sigil
philly was baiting nyxl constantly
like at one point i was like... they're killing 1 of their member on purpose to charge nyxl and make them think its an easy battle
jebaited
did you see that EQ0 genji ult on junkertown
there is no way that wasn't a bait
you dont ult while alone against 2 tanks on genji
spring lintel
Man, the most expensive player in OWL is probably jjonak
tawny sigil
not if zen is out of the meta entirely
spring lintel
I still don’t understand how he is so much ahead everyone else
That guy can play anything
upper niche
SBB is rumoured to be on 150k with 50% of winninghs rights.
warped axle
PHILYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
tawny sigil
zen is out of this meta, and they're losing hardcore and its obvious why
upper niche
which is why they changed the rules of rhte model contracts
spring lintel
You don’t know
upper niche
The rules used to be that the players must earn a minimum of 50% of any stage/playoffs monetary winnings, and the word is that SBB negotiated 50% of that 50% (ie, 25%) for himself - so now the contracts are that it's even split to all players on the roster.
tawny sigil
next week, first place is 1m... what's 2nd place?
upper niche
600 I think?
ill see if i can find it if noone knows for certain.
400k
$1m, $400k, $100/100, 50/50.
So BUR and LAG will take home 50k, of which the players are required to get at least a 50% split, so they get about $2k each. It's not much money all said.
upper niche
thinks. So NYXL made 325k from stages, and 100k from finals.
and London made what... 100k?
upper niche
So NYXL will have made $425k from finals, and Spitfire stand to make either 500k or $1100k.
ultimately you can't build the business of the team on prizemoney, there needs to be sponsors and endorsements. There's not enough prizemoney in the league to keep even a premiership team alive.
upper niche
Wages alone are going to be well over $1m, probably closer to $3m.
oh, forgot about that 😃
warped axle
I was just curious
The only team that seems to be struggling financially is Mayhem (Misfits)
And maybe the Dragons
upper niche
how are they struggling financially?
lucid skiff
the prize money goes to players......
sullen berry
Come to think of the teams that struggled, what about shock whose performance this season didn't bonuses to go off.
Outlaws for the same reason with mendo stating he was underprepared to play for the entire season.
Mayhem in a situation where they got 4 new members and Saya had to have been the most expensive and most utilized.
Dragons, not so much
@lucid skiff *organizations
When they say all players get a $50k salary, budgets matter and living off that kind of money is essential in areas like LA
brittle bough
fairly sure they have their housing expenses paid for in addition to the salary
bitter phoenix
50k a year to play a video game is not bad
upper niche
for the first seasons, because htey're considered "living away from home".
bitter phoenix
Plus housing is paid for
Their gaming set ups are paid for
travel is paid for
plus they have streams + youtube + sponsors + ad rev
lucid skiff
yea owl pros got it good
except for when they maintain a near perfect record during the regular season and not get into the finals in their homecity
fuck im still salty
sullen berry
Self inflicted savagery
warped axle
Maybe that sandbagging wasn't what they needed
idle beacon
so again, what was the meta?
upper niche
By the way, I got that prizemoney figure wrong earlier, I forgot NYXL lost to LAV in the Stage 4 finals, so they've won 250k not 325k.
sullen berry
Stage
Emphasis on stage 4 victory by Valiant
That was when fate was trying hard not to jinx their postseason luck
And perhaps
You might even evaluate the loss against Spitfire yesterday to their tank line coordination
modest onyx
Oh wow so nyxl lost to philly
tawny sigil
MAH BOIZ PHILLY
poor shadow bench, EQ0 really saved them
what was it... mid stage 2?
and fragi
upper niche
I'll never forget the turn-around point of Fragi diving in on the Stage 2 R66 offense, and the match completely flipping to a comeback from that point on.
ruby pendant
@tawny sigil shadowburn too good, they saving him for finals.
fresh turret
Can we actually talk about the match now that the autism is over with?
vagrant cargo
Shadowburn is mechanically still one of the best DPS
But His Playstyle, Lack of communication and Small Hero Pool Hurts Philly a Lot
hidden vault
fresh turret
not rly surprising
wet oyster
if they have geguri any other offtank is useless
torpid charm
I wish Xushu got to play more but that's not happening
warped axle
I wish Sky got more playtime
fresh turret
they're asss
upper niche
Shanghai will get a win in season 2
verbal roost
Really?
heady idol
you know, as salty as I am my teams didn't make it to the finals, I can be happy that no matter who wins it won't bother me, no longer emotionally invested. I can just sit back and watch some Overwatch.
indigo barn
sullen berry
@heady idol Insights powered by Intel
heady idol
lul
sullen berry
There's been no update on the all stars match
All I know is a bunch of players selected by coaches and fans are going to New York?
But that's all assumptions rn
Moon VS Pavane
My how the tables have turned since semis have ended
tawny sigil
its not all stars if vote counts
its like their mvp... that's not how mvp work and that's not how all stars work
finite cedar
They should have put the All Star game between the regular season and the play-offs. They could even have done a 3 weeks break which would have given an easier way to build up hype. 1st week retrospective for the season/fan interractions for the teams, 2nd week, hyping the ASG, 3rd week hyping the play offs. And I don't think the teams would mind the longer break.
tawny sigil
when is the all stars
sullen berry
it will still be a decent spectacle, which they planned to make sure they end on a lighter note
(or they throw in the surprise performance bonus to the winning division)
@tawny sigil that's what I'd like to know, man
it might be on Wednesday, thursday or more than likely the saturday in the same structure as the playoffs
tawny sigil
im wondering the week
sullen berry
this.
spice sierra
heady idol
I know it's unrealistic, but damn how cool would it be if the VAs for the heroes would cast some games. Maybe just silly exhibition matches, but do it in character.
static jay
Agreed
golden echo
Who do u guys think will win OWL finals and who is the best off tank flex Dps ect
Predictions for season 2
What teams could be good what new players would come and go
ruby pendant
X6Gaming has a great dps, GoodsB. Think he will be great addition to the League.
versed fractal
Does S2 start after the World Cup?
fallow scroll
Do people who go see the grand finals in person get any special in-game stuff?
Like how there is that special bastion skin from blizzcon
ruby pendant
@fallow scroll No info on that. Only, master and grandmaster tickets get Master Event Bracelet
Commemorative OWL Grand Finals 2018 laminate & lanyard
Exclusive Overwatch League Drawstring Bag
pure sierra
I'm curious. Did anyone else watch on ESPN this last weekend and think to themselves: "wow, this has a long way to go before it's viable for television"
I've watched on twitch many times before, but watching on TV, I think I realized that I have lower expectations for production values on twitch
fallow scroll
I'm still gonna wear my Pine jersey
viral ether
versed fractal
fallow scroll
Got tickets for the finals as a birthday present yesterday, along with a Pine jersey
fallow scroll
Yep, turned 21
Technically my birthday was on the 21st, but we celebrated it on the 22nd
I got the master package
jagged crater
how many people selling their tickets because nyxl lost?
tight vault
if people are mad about nyxl losing they are stupid
scenic elm
fuck this chat
tight vault
@scenic elm luv u too
scenic elm
fissure come to seoul we like toxic player yes
scenic elm
i get primal rag in 2 akm blade
feral wing
pog
jagged crater
didnt fleta get a longer blade?
sullen berry
@fallow scroll pine in the starting lineup of the all-star match, he'd love you for it
I would argue TviQ Blade caught on too late
jagged crater
i wonder if there's a stat for longest ults charged for each hero in an OWL match
i'd love to see a top 10 for that
for the funsies
sullen berry
That's barely one tank worth of health
I would love next season to include endorsement percentages
200% sportsmanship endorsement on carpe
scenic elm
fuck you
feral wing
no u
scenic elm
*fuck y-ujehong
jagged crater
what' the actual slowest time to charge blade? like no dmg at all just all passive time
jagged crater
i should know this but im too lazy to look up
sullen berry
If it's something effect is convinced himself he's no good at
jagged crater
we can agree effect is not good at managing his morale
sullen berry
Because no comment is praising him on his technical ability alone on widow and doomfist
Which I personally respect
You don't make that shit up to play doomfist against Philly fusion all match in the regular season
jagged crater
either that's a tilt decision or a coaching decision
scenic elm
@jagged crater you cant expect him to be good at managing his morale when he himself said he was a sociopath
jagged crater
yea that's why we agree w/ it
at least he acknowledges it
which is the first step
but outsde of doomfist, who's a niche hero anyway
how does his widow compare?
it doesnt seem "bad"
adequate, OWL level , OWL -capable
then by season 2 who many believe mccree might be meta due to range buff, effect's mccree no slouch either
tight vault
@whole garnet nyxl fan?
ocean canopy
upper niche
Because there are half a dozen other teams that are better than them?
Why is anyone surprised? In the last six weeks they've lost to Boston, LAG, Philly, they nearly lost to SanFran...
ruby pendant
would sell masters ticket!!
deft valley
they were just saving their strength for the fin- oh wait
torpid charm
fiery reef
Anyone still need a weekend overwatch ticket (both days)? I can't go anymore and I am trying to sell it for same price I paid, rounded up to nearest $.
ruby pendant
torpid charm
yeah they tweeted about that awhile ago
north beacon
welp i was out of town over the weekend and didn't have a chance to follow OWL
can't wait to see NYXL in the finals!
i think they'll do great
jovial jewel
gaunt acorn
@north beacon kappa
fiery reef
Still have a weekend ticket for Finals if anyone is interested. Selling it for the same price I paid, nothing more. I can't make it anymore I have to move that weekend and will be to busy to attend.
torpid charm
I'm so excited about going to Grand Finals 
gaunt acorn
@torpid charm lucky
travelling across the continent just to go isn't an option for me 
torpid charm
you'll be able to go one day, sweet Dray
gaunt acorn
i wish more esport events were held in seattle since that's pretty close
all they have there is dota2 which i don't care about
torpid charm
I'll be posting updates about the trip all day, get to meet with 5DV too so it's lit
that's so sad
yo I might get interviewed
gaunt acorn
fiery reef
Any suggestions on where else I can look / post to try and get rid of the ticket I have for this weekend? I figured more people would want to buy it.. but im guessing since NYXL lost people are bailing. I just honestly can't make it because of real life issues 😦
torpid charm
if you go into the meet ups section of the Philadelphia Fusion discord, people may respond because I know a lot of people are looking. I'm a mod in there so I don't mind the advertising
fiery reef
Do you have a join link that you can PM me?
torpid charm
yeah I gotchu buddy
sullen berry
@fiery reef if nothing else, ask NYXL discord
I'm not joking on that one, someone will care enough to watch for all stars playoff if they're hosting in NY
fiery reef
Don't have that discord, got a link?
sullen berry
Type in NYXL lol
fiery reef
where? I never search for discords
sullen berry
Okay, go to the plus icon and when you select add a discord Server you can type in the name of the server
fiery reef
Ah found it. I haven't seen the + icon in months. Forgot it existed.
I've got like 60 discord channels .. but I usually add them from join links.
sullen berry
Phillyfusion works as well as DallasFuel, LAValiant
upper niche
Is there a list of teams disords? or just best to search them?
upper niche
well crap, I just found a bug in my OWL ICS calendar that prevents World Cup matches being shown in some consumers.
magic zinc
A bunch of jackets just returned to the EU OWL store, they're selling out fast though
hybrid helm
@ruby pendant Nice I believe the coaching wasn’t great for Seoul.. they are such good players individually
Wait.. so everyone is selling their ticket coz Philly will be in finals? Lul
upper niche
daym, if I could get cheap flights to NY I'd go
I was originally planning on doing a trip to NY around this time of year.
ruby pendant
@hybrid helm People are still hype, Fusion fans will still probably want the tickets.Thinking of selling them as well. Also it would be great if Seoul were to improve.
tawny sigil
how much were the tickets originally
grand vortex
guys, during the grand finals of owl we are supposed to be able to get 4 sprays. To get 2 of them you are required to watch each stream for at least 3 hours each. This grand finale it is supposed to be the best of 3... What happens if a team just wins 3 times in a row the other team? the last of the streams (28th) would last less than 3 hours and if i'm right it would render 1 of the sprays unachibable
static jay
Ihave a ticket for ow final ga 26 if anyone is interested
warped axle
tawny sigil
How much are tickets?
limber pine
@grand vortex I assume that if that happens, Blizz will hand it out
grand vortex
@limber pine ty 😃
idle narwhal
Anybody got some pro player who main Genji / Pharah / Junkrat?
undone skiff
what do you mean?
golden echo
Anyone know who spitfire might be looking to pick or drop coming into season 2. I think Nus might go but he has time to improve.
cerulean plume
Considering they've dropped like half of their roster probably no one 
warped axle
Everyone on London right now is safe
They'd be wise to just pick up someone like Rascal and then just roll into season 2
Actually wait Rascal was on Spitfire...
Never mind
lucid skiff
i think london might even get fissure back because hes looking to leave LA
imagine that
ruby pendant
@golden echo Might pick up GoodsB from X6 gaming(contenders team).
limber pine
If he’s looking to join a Korean team, it’s more likely he’d join one of the new 6 teams
@ Fissure
ruby pendant
That would be insane if they were on the same team, so many good players from Contenders to choose from! Hopefully, Dragons are able to reform too.
Shame that season 2 doesn't start for a long time!!
lucid skiff
@limber pine do you know what the new teams are gonna be?
King Crimson remember that we also have the world cup to look forward to which will be nice
lucid skiff
that would make sense
gaunt acorn
@lucid skiff to add onto that, it's 2 EU, 2 NA, 2 ASIA/OCE while still maintaining a balance between PAC and ATL divisions
which is only relevant for the 2 NA teams
meaning one will be east coast, and the other will be west coast
gaunt acorn
you can use this to predict teams by process of elimination
if they choose chicago for a team, that eliminates toronto (both atlantic)
lucid skiff
oh yeah true
gaunt acorn
so a canadian team might instead be in vancouver
lucid skiff
or seattle 0.0
gaunt acorn
as i believe chicago is an important city they want to capitalize on
gaunt acorn
seattle could happen too, sure, but chicago is a much bigger sports city
and probably a viewerbase they want to snag
lucid skiff
i mean seattle as good nfl and socer teams
gaunt acorn
yeah i'm not discrediting seattle
lucid skiff
i see
gaunt acorn
i just think chicago is probably the #1 desired expansion team remaining in the usa rn
lucid skiff
facts
gaunt acorn
seattle might well be #2
but i believe they want to expand to canada for season 2
so chicago & vancouver seem most likely, in my opinion
lucid skiff
for europe u think they will add a paris team?
gaunt acorn
other cities we have a decent idea of are berlin (mostly confirmed by leaks)
yeah, the other EU team will either be Paris or Stockholm
lucid skiff
oh yae
lucid skiff
oo
gaunt acorn
this leaves 1 Asia/OCE slot left which i'd give to busan
lucid skiff
that would be cool
gaunt acorn
based on korea being so.. well.. yeah
gaunt acorn
not for season 2
possibly for season 3 or beyond, though, yeah
season 2 is more or less locked on a korean team & an australian team, if you ask me
season 3 will likely want to expand further into korea (again), china, and maybe south-east asia too
atomic crater
Paris and Beijing are the most likley for next year
lucid skiff
whats the biggest you could see the league getting tho?
gaunt acorn
i disagree
atomic crater
the rest is up to investor really
lucid skiff
i mean too many teams?
gaunt acorn
@lucid skiff i think they said they want 24 teams
lucid skiff
mm
atomic crater
yeah nxt year its gonna be 4-6 new teams right?
gaunt acorn
depends on if they'll go through with their plan to expand to australia or not
if sydney doesn't get a spot, beijing is most likely to replace it
@lucid skiff fusion
gaunt acorn
i wouldn't say unfortunately 
torpid charm
supple prism
i want fusion but im betting london
polar pasture
i think the london fusion game is going to be decided solely by the Popping-Offness TM of their DPS
because if birdring is performing at his highest level and so is carpe + eQo, its probably going to be the best game of overwatch the world has ever produced
jagged crater
everyone outside of korea and UK
ruby pendant
really surprising how the lowest rank teams make it to finals
wonder who would have predicted this?!
balmy wolf
Uhm, I dont think that Dallas,(unfortunately) Florida, Shanghai, or SF shock are going to the finals
torpid charm
final river
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
lyric pivot
@ruby pendant blame a lot of that on the Meta changes through the update. We wouldn't be seeing Philly anywhere near finals otherwise.
deft valley
Regarding Seattle talks: There are definitely bigger sports cities than it, but it's much more techy
If I had to guess a city who'd most embrace an esports team in general it'd be seattle
potent crystal
warped axle
Skyfoxes had to change their name from Seattle Skyfoxes
They probably are getting a team
fallow elm
Makes sense
fallow elm
To a degree
magic zinc
I'm lowkey hoping for a team reveal at Gamescom that'd be awesome
magic zinc
Yeah doesnt sound too unlikely from that angle
limber pine
although
fallow elm
Haven't they said they want a Berlin team?
limber pine
i think several places are viable
sullen berry
Sweden too are under the rumor mill
limber pine
idk if one place has been rumored over others (in EU at least)
@magic zinc September 9th - October 7th is the window for expansion teams to sign free agents, so gamescom would be almost perfect timing for the announcement of EU teams
magic zinc
It would be too early to reveal the players
fallow elm
I read somewhere that they wanted a Middle East team, but I don't know when
magic zinc
But for the branding it would be a solid timing
fallow elm
Where*
limber pine
yeah the branding came before the others
the original 12
the middle east doesn't even have servers
i'd love a middle east team, but they've got work to do before that happens
tawny sigil
Are they flying a private jet to new york?
limber pine
if like Eagle Gaming bought a spot then we'd have an idea of their team
@tawny sigil no clue
sullen berry
@tawny sigil they landed yesterday for promo content to use on stream, if that's what you're asking
tawny sigil
no
magic zinc
Saudi Arabia barely missed out on the World Cup right? There's definitely a market there
But it doesnt sound like the best for branding
fallow elm
What about Dubai?
tawny sigil
bunch of rich people... nobody plays video games there
magic zinc
Idk if they're marketable enough yeah
EU teams just seem more viable in general
They could get a Paris team and just get a Qatari billionaire to sponsor it like PSG
fallow elm
I have Qatari second cousins so that could be cool
limber pine
It's likely the two teams will be some combination of France, Germany, and Sweden
unless I missed some news somewhere
fallow elm
Probably
limber pine
I'm hoping for a DC team in the mix, but it's unlikely
fallow elm
Definitely Toronto though
limber pine
Chicago seems like a done deal
Toronto seems feasible
what else for NA? another Cali or Texas team?
deft valley
Seattle is floated around
fallow elm
I think they'll want to represent Canada
magic zinc
I'm not really feeling a South America team but its possible I guess?
fallow elm
Like Chile, Argentina, or Brazil
deft valley
it's definitely Brazil if anyone
magic zinc
Yeah probably
fallow elm
BGH has been dominating SA contenders
magic zinc
Their casters are 
sullen berry
has BGH looked better since 2017 OWWC?
limber pine
they haven't dropped a map yet
sullen berry
time will tell if sydney drop bears and a trickle of Valiant/Fuel in there
AU can make for a serious finalist for the 2nd year in a row for World Cup 2018
limber pine
idk they've got to beat either China or Sweden
plus a pretty good thailand and denmark team
That Qualifier is gonna be brutal
versed fractal
Are the UK any good, or are they gonna make me sad like most British participation in sport
limber pine
The UK made it last year, but they didn't really commit to Mercy at Blizzcon when she was uber powerful
I was at Sweden's press conference and asked them that, and they said they were surprised that UK didn't play any Mercy until it was too late
I'd expect them to make it back, given the teams in their qualifier
tawny sigil
Paladins E-sport coming to nintendo switch
limber pine
Good for Paladins
tawny sigil
im making that up
they released paladins on the switch for free
and doesnt look like overwatch is coming to it even though people asked for it
limber pine
Nintendo is, as usual, a harder port/platform than PS4/XB1
balmy wolf
It took me so long to notice iremix was on Kungarna
glacial cosmos
!tracer
somber yewBOT
@glacial cosmos, @glacial cosmos, it seems like I can't DM you!
silk linden
balmy wolf
Can we once have these live streams when we europeans can watch them too? 😂
idle beacon
so i've watched the phili vs nyxl matches
i did feel sorry at some times for nyxl
gettin dominated so harsh on kingsrow 😮
and poor ark on hanamura
gettin picked off twice
ember jewel
If only they spent the time sandbagging to learn to play something other than Tracer Dive
lucid skiff
^^^^^
also the triple tank triple support push at the end of dorado was sad
thats when i knew we lost
stuck sonnet
onyx shore
https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1022154645882503169
lmao,the trophy next to a puddle
idle beacon
@lucid skiff what match was that?
the first or last?
haven't finished watching the first match, yet
balmy wolf
Hey, Is there anyone in or near the Atlanta area who wants to go to a finals watchparty, Please dm me
vague siren
hopefully he's leaving fuel
vague siren
He's probably going to join a korean contenders team since he can't really deal with being away from home
gaunt acorn
what would tweeting "10:40" have to do with that, though
he's in korea though, atm
so 10:40 isn't for another ~8 hrs
idle beacon
korean contenders team?
means, he'd play in korea?
the contenders aren't playin on lan events?
gaunt acorn
it was a countdown to him streaming
@forest raven you think hes back in california?
i dont see why else he'd use PDT
instead of korean time
forest raven
jagged merlin
How about Jayne
Anyone feel as if Jayne isn’t as knowledgeable as he thinks he is
He’s the only person I know that analyzes gameplay and makes vids rehashing common knowledge
Usually with fancy terms
deft valley
the only person? Haven't watched much of OW youtube then I presume
anyway I doubt Jayne will have an involved coaching role
upper niche
"Whoops" - had a bug in my calendar code that was causing all World Cup matches to display as the time you request the calendar. Fixed now - there's definitely not 60 matches going on right now anymore.
deft valley
aw I hoped there were
red anvil
ruby pendant
verbal roost
Wow
torpid charm
limpid estuary
Paris
Finally more euro teams
Wonder if they'll make a third division. East Coast, West Coast, and Abroad.
limpid estuary
Shame
torpid charm
3 sounds like a good idea for the future
torpid charm
quick maths
limber pine
ikr
limpid estuary
Okay cool
limber pine
Sept 9 is when expansion teams can sign free agents
so expect 6 weeks out of Blizz to announce 1 per week
probably
ruby pendant
China having a new team?
warped axle
China has a lot of good players
They totally deserve a second team
Hopefully one a lot better than the Dragons
wild fog
Im 3500+ looking to join a team msg me my name is ObliviousWinz on ps4
drowsy fulcrum
@wild fog this isn't for recruiting, it's for OWL, and there's no real high level community for PS4 here
what timezone?
because for me it's midnight tomorrow
ruby pendant
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
ruby pendant
no problem!
ruby pendant
@tacit tartan It's official that he staying on Fuel?
tacit tartan
Nope
I know nothing about that atm
All I know is that I want him to get better and this is a big step in that
ruby pendant
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/924z70/the_grand_finals_stage/ got pic of what grand finals look like from that thread
rugged relic
Looks cool
vagrant niche
should be hype tomorrow bois
I heard France got a team
and China got another one
oh god, you imagine another 0-40?
naw, that's pretty unlikely to happen again. That's just very rare
I can't wait for the twitch memes of "Another one!"
ember jewel
I doubt that it will happen
The team they picked to represent China on the world cup would whoop the ass of Shanghai Dragons tbh
brisk roost
@vagrant niche Lmao
@ember jewel Wait isn't the roster of Team China will be the new roster for Shanghai Dragons?
ember jewel
@brisk roost A big part will probably be. But I think most of the current LGD roster will go to the new Chinese team
brisk roost
@vagrant niche OMEGALUL
@ember jewel Yeah but either chinese team will be stronger now so which is good
torpid charm
who here is going to Grand Finals???
ruby pendant
Was so close to selling mine, only wanted the Master package to pick up some merchandise. However, was told you can't without having both tickets. Will go tomorrow and sell my tickets to someone who wants to go on Saturday.
Cool that Fusion and London are in the finals, but really wanted Excelsior!!
vagrant niche
they wont let you buy stuff unless you buy 2 tickets? WOT
ruby pendant
@vagrant niche yeah, if you bought a ticket, you have an option of getting a masters or grandmasters add-on package.
vagrant niche
shouldn't the store be just open to the public in the first place?
no matter if you are attending the final or not
so what ticket did you bought? the bronze one?
ruby pendant
lol
vagrant niche
i'm assuming Master is just one day, and grandmaster is for 2 days? And unless you don't get the 2 days tickets, you wont get to buy anything from the merch store?
is that the gist?
ruby pendant
both are 2 days
ruby pendant
grandmaster is vip
floor seats, physical merchandise, and autographs
masters is only physical merchandise
vagrant niche
man, shouldn't you just get autographs from meetups etc?
torpid charm
WAIT WHAT REALLY
vagrant niche
that thing smells like scam
ruby pendant
you have to go early if you're vip
torpid charm
I'm so confused about this whole ticket thing, I literally just got my whole trip set up by someone else on Wednesday
ruby pendant
they'll let you in on another entrance
vagrant niche
so you can still buy your merch then, just wont get autographs. buy it and then go to a meetup when they come around your place
Get that rare McDonalds Saya shirt
and have him sign it
ruby pendant
@vagrant niche grandmasters only get first access
vagrant niche
it's going to be worth money in the future
yes, that's why i'm saying, get your autographed stuff on a meetup later
that thing is a scam
to get you to pay big money
i'm sure normal fan meetups don't do that
and they will sign stuff for you
ruby pendant
probably
but there's supposedly 20,000 possible people to attend, people would rather cruise through the line
vagrant niche
20k
?
they can fit that much?
i saw the image, but that didn't looked 20k
20k here?
i don't know, that's a lot of people
unless there's something i'm missing
ruby pendant
@vagrant niche https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/5212/over-20000-tickets-sold-overwatch-league-grand-finals-sells-out-at-barclays-center
those are floor seats, which vip have. It's much bigger.
ruby pendant
@vagrant niche lol, yea. I'm sure they were surprised for it to sell out. You still find people willing to pay 100% more than what these tickets were worth originally. Surprising really. Contenders could use some of this love!
vagrant niche
contenders don't even get 5k views
ruby pendant
Would help if they advertise it in game like the Overwatch League and give incentives to watch. Unfortunately, that's not priority.
ruby pendant
Who do ya think will win today's game Fusion or London?
torpid charm
fast basin
torpid charm
it's not official yet
verbal roost
Guangzhou?
ruby pendant
@verbal roost Big city in China
upper niche
hey, what's the difference between the Pacific and Australian division of Contenders?
like, are some of the Pac teams also Aus teams - eg, Blank?
limber pine
There’s not a region lock, so the PAC, Korea, China, and AUS scenes have a bit of crossover
Aka Koreans are everywhere
deft valley
that's mostly people though, the organizations are still from their named region
but Aus/Pac has crossover there too
balmy wolf
dj khaled lol
craggy monolith
Hi, in how many hours does the finale start? >_>
deft valley
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
slim summit
today is the day
feels like my own children are fighting
but i'm gonna have to side with Philly today
because of USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!
👌
spare shale
balmy flower
it feels like philly is going to win
vagrant niche
O O F ! !
junior mist
limber pine
fresh turret
So where's this contenders match being played?
I like how it
is Fusion vs Britain
So same thing
vagrant niche
isn't that a replay of the finals?
probably to show that the new league teams are going at it as well today
jagged crater
can i sit outside the venue like a homeless dude and watch from the outside
vagrant niche
just don't forget to bring your laptop so you can use your twitch and see it
vagrant niche
can't you go to mcDonalds or something?
vagrant niche
heck, stand with a sign and maybe Bliz will take pity and make you into a PR strat
it will be a win/win situation
jagged crater
how many homeless dudes you see being interested in a video game tournament? that's right im one of a kind
vagrant niche
exactly, go on brotha
bitter phoenix
Why is a homeless person into something he can't play? You need a console or a pc to play this game.. well pc.. since you can't count xbox and ps4 as playing
jagged crater
people are ok with being spectators
applies to any sport
imagine a homeless person with broken legs, cant play football but i imagine could be a football fan
terse cobalt
guys did you know Pine died
jagged crater
yes
ruby pendant
@bitter phoenix lol
vagrant niche
Holy crap!!! BIG NEWS FELLAS
someone is saying Away skins are on PTR
my saved 1054 tokens will be put on good use
I been wanting to buy Away Fuel skins and away Mahem skins
whole garnet
@vagrant niche I wish they would sell away skins
But the away skins were given as a bonus to those who purchased the all access pass
Hence I don’t think they’ll make away skins purchasable
I hope they do, but it would anger a lot of die hard/normy fans
vagrant niche
they never said it would be exclusive to season pass mate
just like how they never said Cop D.Va or Oni gengu would be exclusive
you just got away skins if you bought season pass, and that's it. There is nothing more to it I believe
the point of Season pass is to get more content to watch of the league, the bonus extra is just there
vestal berry
!standings
somber yewBOT
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 
New York Excelsior 34 6 40 126-43-4
2 
Los Angeles Valiant 27 13 40 100-64-7
3 
Boston Uprising 26 14 40 99-71-3
4 
Los Angeles Gladiators 25 15 40 96-72-3
5 
London Spitfire 24 16 40 102-69-3
6 
Philadelphia Fusion 24 16 40 93-80-2
7 
Houston Outlaws 22 18 40 94-77-2
8 
Seoul Dynasty 22 18 40 91-78-3
9 
San Francisco Shock 17 23 40 77-84-5
10 
Dallas Fuel 12 28 40 58-100-7
11 
Florida Mayhem 7 33 40 42-120-5
12 
Shanghai Dragons 0 40 40 21-141-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
vestal berry
Which teams are guaranteed a spot into the grand finals rn?
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
vestal berry
I’ve been busy, couldn’t watch the games
vagrant niche
btw, why do keep saying EU beats NA?
balmy wolf
Did Fusions lose
balmy wolf
Ima take that as a yes
vagrant niche
@balmy wolf this is a replay
balmy wolf
Oh?
vagrant niche
are you talking about the contenders?
that was a match vs both winners, EU contenders and NA contenders
this is just a replay
balmy wolf
They were on Horizon Lunar Colony when I was watching
vagrant niche
OWL twitch channel is replaying it
vagrant niche
so yeah, I guess they were doing it cause now we going to have the equivalents on the OWL
London vs Philly
aka
Spitfire vs F U
balmy wolf
When’s it start?
balmy wolf
Oh ok I’ll be home then 😁
vagrant niche
ye you got time boi
high ibex
Is blizzard serious with this "skill check" for canadian viewers of the overwatch league? If yes, why? https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/eligibility-test
ruby pendant
Would be funny if London sweeps Fusion
limber pine
@high ibex it's a Canada thing
high ibex
@limber pine this sounds like a joke, to harass canadians
high ibex
thanks
"without using a calculator, phone..." its so funny, like if anyone can check that you used a calculator
deft valley
It's a formality, which is why it's so dumb
torpid charm
I just realized that I've been on the bus with Fusion Uni boys this whole time
torpid charm
yes of course
torpid charm
we're very quiet, it's been a long trip we're just ready to get to the Barclays Center
I have VIP tickets but I won't get there fast enough so r.i.p. meeting my other favs I think
mint cliff
Can someone gimme the link of the stream?
deft valley
torpid charm
Super is right next to me
green stump
@torpid charm how many people are there?
torpid charm
a lot
balmy wolf
Lmao
torpid charm
I got a pic with Bren, he called me adorable
balmy wolf
Nice
ruby pendant
thunder!!!
green stump
@torpid charm can you take a pic of the arena and how many are there?
shrewd jacinth
TIME FOR THE HYPE BOYS
magic zinc
90 mins till lift off 
blissful quiver
sorry if its a stupid question, but battle.net says its a best-of-five and the website only has 3 games scheduled
so is it bo3 or bo5?
torpid charm
blissful quiver
torpid charm
I'll take a pic soon, I'm buying merch
vagrant niche
today is only one series
tomorrow is 1 or possible 2
depending on the result from today
magic zinc
gotcha
vagrant niche
lets go bois
ruby pendant
Malik's best performance all season!!
whole breach
Is Overwatch League over after grand finals?? Crap! I didn't get the mercy skin.
azure harbor
ez for London
azure harbor
marsh pumice
so who is going to win today? who do you want?
lean yarrow
What teams are playing tonight?
hidden osprey
Malik is dressed as if he's about to star in a music video
lean yarrow
oh, thanks
polar rain
np
quiet panther
I put my money on spitfire atleast
versed fractal
hidden osprey
I dunno, spitfire are either on or off
brisk roost
rustic perch
ayy bois waddup 
hidden osprey
hello weeb
versed fractal
It's coming home...
hidden osprey
The Korean's are gonna be super pissed if Spitfire lose
they hate to see boosters win
cobalt moon
CUSTA
rustic perch
what's wrong with the owl stream again, every stream i turn on is running just fine but owl is lagging like hell
quiet panther
Works fine for me
rustic perch
it's legit only on the owl stream
cobalt moon
SBB
azure harbor
cobalt moon
❤
versed fractal
What will happen if tonight doesn't take 3 hours. (About the spray)
marsh pumice
how long till game starts?
cobalt moon
@marsh pumice 30 mins
marsh pumice
ty
cobalt moon
yw
rustic perch
i'm actually surprised tho (still) that nyxl didnt make it
i was expecting a london nyxl finals match since the playoffs were set
or nyxl at least
mortal sentinel
NYXL degraded HARD
hidden osprey
mhm
mortal sentinel
They couldn't adjust to the meta enough
hidden osprey
Custa
mortal sentinel
!!!
flint pasture
its coming home
mortal sentinel
This is great tho
Its a 5th v.s a 6th in the GRAND FINALS
THink about that for a moment.
azure harbor
Custa
flint pasture
london shouldnt be 5th
mortal sentinel
London has some gaps
flint pasture
birdring just threw until playoffs
quiet panther
Both teams deserve finals though
rustic perch
did they show the finals arena yet? detailed, i mean
because the previous arena was really impressive at the first day when you first saw it, i wonder if they come up with something even more "amazing" (first sight, at least)
hidden osprey
Custa would do really well as an analyst in the future
mortal sentinel
Have you seen the Barclays Center before?
rustic perch
no
mortal sentinel
Ohh
Barclays center is where the Brooklyn Nets play, a MAJOR sports franchise
Its i think quad decked
flint pasture
i wanna watch an overwatch league finals someday
rustic perch
SUCTION 
mortal sentinel
It's nothing compared to Centre Bell we have up here in Montreal
sullen berry
misleading factor 7/10
rustic perch
yea but i think this is just a "huge" arena right there, nothing impressive technic-wise
rustic perch
i'd rather be an american instead of a german actually
flint pasture
here in the uk i would have to take 3 planes
quiet panther
Lag just kicked in for me
rustic perch
i dont expect more than 150k actually
remember that first days peak was about 700k or something
mortal sentinel
Most are watching on ESPN rn
rustic perch
true actually
mortal sentinel
Plus, its watchpoint
rustic perch
soon we are the plebs 
mortal sentinel
It'll climb when game starts
hidden osprey
inb4 viewer counter is the same as before but everyone says that there's more viewers on TV 
rustic perch
monte doa
sullen berry
remember there is a second day
hidden osprey
yes
fiery reef
wish i didnt have to sell my ticket.
rustic perch
wish i would live in the US so i could actually maybe go there 
fluid wagon
wait. if uber x is casting this match, are they not casting tomorrow? i really wanted them to cast the final game.
rustic perch
as long as it's not sexler
hidden osprey
sexler is better than monte and doa lately
rustic perch
get out
azure harbor
muricans
hidden osprey
their play by play commentary is better
fluid wagon
twitch chat: "paid white people". lol.
rustic perch
hidden osprey
PepePls
rustic perch
did he have a shovel on his shoe
hidden osprey
I hope they have a grand final in the EU sometime in the future
rustic perch
they actually said
pulsar hill
might do
rustic perch
they'll go for better EU times in season 2
fluid wagon
@rustic perch Soledigger?
pulsar hill
depends on where the expansions treams are
hidden osprey
Its either Korea or US 
rustic perch
no, they did mention at some point this season, that they want to make the match times more EU-friendly next season
fluid wagon
We here in EU are a bit fucked with the times this season, yeah.
rustic perch
why tho
hidden osprey
they actually made the match times worse as the season went on this year
vagrant niche
yes next season it was said it will be better
hidden osprey
but ye, one can hope
hidden osprey
It's Blizzard, they don't stick to their word
rustic perch
fluid wagon
however, i'm going out to an esports bar seeing the games with friends tomorrow.
rustic perch
good thing that germany doesnt even have shit like that
at least i don't know about one
fluid wagon
i think we have like 4 esport bars here in stockholm.
rustic perch
just looked it up, apparently we have 2 or 3 in the whole country
fluid wagon
F
rustic perch
the next one to where i live is about 200km away
fluid wagon
F²
worn hornet
why does that have the blur filter on it?
hidden osprey
what does?
worn hornet
one of their emote faces
rustic perch
rustic perch
because there's no high res image of that emote