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#esports-discussion
forest wharf
rancid elk
im reenabling adblock for twitch now
minor flame
yes
silk linden
why use adblock on twitch when you can not be a peasant and get prime
marsh pumice
oh nice
minor flame
i predicted 4-0 from valiant or outlaws 3-2
silk linden
second one not as much
minor flame
guess its 4-0 valiant
does outlaws still have arhan
is he not gonna be played in the entire season
forest wharf
Or use adblock+prime to double fuck you to ads
minor flame
im hoping a near rsweep at the very least
not because i want outlaws to win
just dont want the last day last match to be a disappointment
brisk roost
Same
silk linden
4-0 means Dallas are 4th place
minor flame
oh dear
they have seoul next week too
so they could actually be in the playoffs
if they dont get 4-0ed by valiant next week
silk linden
dallas fucking everyone's season playoff chances on the way to the stage 4 playoffs
very dallas
heady idol
"first option is allied healthbar on"
I hope people take that to heart
forest wharf
!standings
heady idol
;p
somber yewBOT
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 
New York Excelsior 33 5 38 122-38-4
2 
Los Angeles Valiant 25 12 37 94-60-7
3 
Boston Uprising 24 14 38 92-70-3
4 
London Spitfire 23 15 38 97-66-3
5 
Los Angeles Gladiators 23 15 38 89-71-3
6 
Philadelphia Fusion 23 15 38 89-76-2
7 
Houston Outlaws 21 16 37 89-71-2
8 
Seoul Dynasty 21 17 38 87-74-3
9 
San Francisco Shock 16 22 38 72-81-5
10 
Dallas Fuel 11 27 38 54-96-7
11 
Florida Mayhem 7 31 38 42-112-5
12 
Shanghai Dragons 0 38 38 21-133-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
minor flame
2 kills with the sole earth shatter
9 kills rawkus
with no final blows
unheard of
arctic sorrel
There are a lot of pro players that use 75% render scale
It's all about getting the highest framerate they possibly can
pallid cargo
the secrets of rawkASS will be revealed
silk linden
I wonder if Rawkus is tired of being objectified
final river
thiccus is new to me
minor flame
probably
fiery reef
God I hope they reverse sweep this. I want outlaws to win
minor flame
its gardens
i dont think Outlaws can win this
eh
maybe im wrong
agilities is really bad with his ults
pharahs in particular
hidden osprey
CUSTA 
brisk roost
GG LUL
arctic sorrel
marsh pumice
4-0
fiery reef
Rip the dream. It really looked like they might at least win this one
forest wharf
Rip
arctic sorrel
WINGS OUT
minor flame
validont
polar pier
RIP Outlaws.
marsh pumice
inlaws
cerulean plume
The kyky effect 
marsh pumice
kek
cerulean plume
brisk roost
Blame Kyky
marsh pumice
omg the drama, he is jealous of dallas doing good now
cerulean plume
The old trusty kyky excuse
brisk roost
Ikr lmao
polar pier
Didn't Houston beat Dallas though?
arctic sorrel
Houston > Dallas
brisk roost
They're not really blaming Kyky
It's the players performances
Also Kyky only gives advice to Houston
He has no right to force which one they should play or what strat they should do
polar pier
"Stop dying."
marsh pumice
kyky was the one that got xqc out
brisk roost
Lmfao
marsh pumice
slow linden
wait does the standings table say that nyxl lost 2 games this stage to anyone else?
supple prism
they did
heady idol
for all we know the advertisers threatened DF to make changes, who knows
polar pier
Valiant.
supple prism
val won, but still one more game
polar pier
It's 3-0.
paper crag
ah okay
brisk roost
Valiant wew
paper crag
valiant also on their way to an undefeated season?
polar pier
inb4fuelwiththeupset
paper crag
i don't think you can completely count out fuel this stage, but still
i think it's still pretty heavily favoring valiant
slow linden
there is a pretty good chance fuel makes it in to playoffs this stage
supple prism
i just cant see fuel being the only one to beat Val
paper crag
yeah that's true though
marsh pumice
i hope dallas do make it to playoffs
paper crag
did LAV play SHD this season?
or do they just not have a match this stage
i meant stage, not season
slow linden
fuel need to win one of 2 games
supple prism
yes
silk linden
have we ever had a 2-0 series?
silk linden
not that rare
supple prism
its rare on escort and even hybrid
marsh pumice
hahhaha
polar pier
Ryujin no SPLAT
paper crag
so at this point, if DF wins both of their remaining games and Outlaws loses one of their remaining two games
DF goes to playoff
supple prism
they wont though
paper crag
i know lol
outlaws is against fusion and nyxl next week too though
so it might actually come down to map differential
silk linden
actually if Houston get 4-0d, Dallas just need to win both their next games
though one of those games is against valiant
heady idol
this is what the desk said earlier, damn Agilities is so inconsistent
silk linden
although, Valiant got nothing to gain anymore
paper crag
at this point, both DF and outlaws can lose all of their remaining games and one of them could go to playoffs
based on map differentials
assuming SFS doesn't get any more wins
supple prism
think philly has a better chance at outlaws and london than fuel has against seoul and val
silk linden
dallas are very much favorites against seoul
paper crag
oh but SFS going against SHD next week so that's kind of a given that they'll get one win
silk linden
valiant is gonna be very hard, but again, it's not like valiant really care anymore
supple prism
yea they do
paper crag
it might be a pretty messy road to that 4th spot on playoffs
SFS, DF, Houston all going for that spot with map differential is a definite possibility
Week 5:
SFS against LAV and SHD
DF against LAV and Seoul
Outlaws against Fusion and NYXL
supple prism
dont think SFS will make it
paper crag
idk, they have that SHD card
supple prism
with one win behind the rest
paper crag
you think DF and Outlaws have a definite one win coming up next week?
supple prism
SFS can only make it if the other 4 lose both games
supple prism
sorry 3
supple prism
fuel, outlaws, philly
paper crag
oh snap i was completely missing philly xD
philly vs outlaws too, so yeah that means SFS is out
polar pier
Ryujin no SPLAT
heady idol
lul
paper crag
since philly or outlaws will def get one win
polar pier
Genji and getting splat mid Dragonblade windup. Name a more iconic duo.
paper crag
and that's all it takes for SFS to be out of the running
it's still kinda hilarious how far ahead NYXL is in map differential for the entire season
supple prism
unless they beat Val some how
paper crag
i feel like that's not a real possibility
i feel like that's similar to SHD beating SFS
a little harder than SHD beating mayhem, i guess
but then again
SHD
so idk if i can make any comparisons
it's like dividing by zero
polar pier
RIP
marsh pumice
4-0
supple prism
and this 4-0 doesnt help
paper crag
it's always 2CP-Hybrid-Control-Escort, right?
silk linden
yes
paper crag
i wonder if that puts teams that are better at control and escort at a disadvantage
silk linden
btw if you call Assault 2CP, might as well call Control KOTH
paper crag
like they're more likely to be pressured by early losses
paper crag
lol ideally yeah
silk linden
good teams shouldn't bother with such things
paper crag
i feel like it'd be okay to mix up the orders though
silk linden
it's like saying a particular team isn't favored in a stage because they aren't great at the map pool
tought tits, git gud
supple prism
wow the differential is +5, +4, and +3 for the 3 teams
paper crag
ideally you shouldn't be bothered, but i feel like that slight bit of psychological advantage is still kinda unfair when it comes to this level of professional play
silk linden
the order is the way it is because this way you can only have draws at the beginning of the series
silk linden
I mean, it's my best guess
paper crag
although, idk why draws have to be at the beginning of the series
supple prism
the order has been different for each stage
paper crag
since there's a tiebreaker anyway
silk linden
because that way it's all decided at the end
like, imagine you're 2-1, hanamura is the last map, enemy team already failed their second push
now you can either win or draw hanamura
which means you already won the series
bit anticlimactic
although I guess they do play entire map 4s where the series is already decided
still playing for a draw instead of a loss is only really fit for the beginning of a series, where every small victory counts
at the end you're just half heartedly collecting scraps
but whatever, Season 2 might end up being a completely different beast
supple prism
im still betting on philly
silk linden
I'm almost pissed Gladiators are gonna clinch it
they were so sub par at the beginning
hands down the most meteoric rise in the OWL
Boston are in the playoffs. That's cool. Big phew there
jovial jewel
CALLED THE 4-0
warped axle
NYXL, Valiant, Spitfire, Uprising, Philly, and Gladiators would be a great season playoffs
ruby pendant
Dynasty need to wake up!
rancid elk
nah best playoffs would be dragons vs random plat teams
random plat teams made by blizzard matchmaking in brazil at 4 am*
bitter phoenix
ornate flume
Does anybody have screenshot of the uhhhh overall standings with the thing saying if they made in or lost the playoffs
supple prism
!standings
somber yewBOT
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 New York Excelsior 33 5 38 122-38-4
2 Los Angeles Valiant 26 12 38 96-60-7
3 Boston Uprising 24 14 38 92-70-3
4 London Spitfire 23 15 38 97-66-3
5 Los Angeles Gladiators 23 15 38 89-71-3
6 Philadelphia Fusion 23 15 38 89-76-2
7 Houston Outlaws 21 17 38 89-73-2
8 Seoul Dynasty 21 17 38 87-74-3
9 San Francisco Shock 16 22 38 72-81-5
10 Dallas Fuel 11 27 38 54-96-7
11 Florida Mayhem 7 31 38 42-112-5
12 Shanghai Dragons 0 38 38 21-133-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
sullen berry
any teams with 25 or more wins have been secured a spot in playoffs, while anything under 20 wins has already been eliminated @ornate flume
supple prism
I know
verbal roost
if teams have identical records in a stage, can they both go to playoffs?
forest raven
They look at who won the match up, and if the two teams didn't play each other that stage they do a tiebreaker @verbal roost
verbal roost
oh wow. extra tiebreakers ๐ฎ threeway is still more matchups to break the tie?
ornate flume
@supple prism POGGERS thanks
upper niche
@ornate flume Stage or Season playoffs?
sullen berry
@forest raven praise Monte
forest raven
upper niche
If anyone wants to test an ics generator for OWL schedules I've been working on this weekend, let me know. It allows you to import the OWL schedule in to calendars like Google, so it's updated constantly (including with scores if you want), and can just show the teams you're interested in if you want - I'm after some feedback on what works, what could be improved etc.
cunning basalt
Lol Shanghai 0-38
latent vigil
@upper niche awesome dude I'd like to see it
slim summit
Imagine if Seoul doesn't make it to the grand finals
Right now their best hope is to get in on map differential
cunning basalt
True seoul is falling off
Sf Shock and Dallas Fuel are rising
They wont make the final playoffs though
Mabye for stage 4 though
fresh turret
Fucking rip
Houston
Does anyone agree that they should have swapped off the Genji Tracer dive on Hana?
Or
Not have picked it in the first place?
tawny sigil
well team realized that if they force houston to play dive, they're fucked cause they have no practice for it i would assume
cerulean plume
There has to be better alternatives
They've tried the genji tracer multiple times
It got better but not enough
But if Huston are going to play like this in the playoffs I'd rather see glads and Philly in
low mesa
But the problem is if they get a map pool without any good tank maps
vast jay
Anyone in the know, for the outlaws has rawkus been not as good in the last few stages? i cant find any stats. i know it seamsed like he was a beast at the start
warped axle
Based on how Philly did in stage 2 playoffs, I'd rather see them in rather than Houston
Is season playoffs going to be double elimination?
balmy wolf
Can I join someone's team?
raw dove
Here is a writeup I did about my OWL experience: https://www.reddit.com/r/OverwatchLeague/comments/8q3ihe/my_overwatch_league_experience_warning_long
vestal berry
Ado better play like his life is on the line in these next 2 games
sullen berry
@upper niche I've actually got one going atm, a premade calendar is really underrated
but given how many games go to tiebreeakers, it's not perfect
silk linden
umbral lynx
!standing
somber yewBOT
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 New York Excelsior 33 5 38 122-38-4
2 Los Angeles Valiant 26 12 38 96-60-7
3 Boston Uprising 24 14 38 92-70-3
4 London Spitfire 23 15 38 97-66-3
5 Los Angeles Gladiators 23 15 38 89-71-3
6 Philadelphia Fusion 23 15 38 89-76-2
7 Houston Outlaws 21 17 38 89-73-2
8 Seoul Dynasty 21 17 38 87-74-3
9 San Francisco Shock 16 22 38 72-81-5
10 Dallas Fuel 11 27 38 54-96-7
11 Florida Mayhem 7 31 38 42-112-5
12 Shanghai Dragons 0 38 38 21-133-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
sullen berry
bonus content from lurking soe and malik https://youtu.be/Mh6dspJDkB0
sullen berry
And fuel is still in contention for stage playoffs
If they can break up the sandbagging NYXL and win the ultimate revenge match against Dynasty then we have some epic playoff potential
supple prism
you mean VAL
upper niche
@sullen berry You'll need to explain what you mean, I don't understand.
verbal roost
When will shd derank? ๐ฆ
supple prism
probably wont ever
verbal roost
I guess this is like Prometheus and the bird slowly eating his regenerating innards... One day shd shall be free!
remote compass
sullen berry
I DID SEE THIS
It's exactly what I had very much hoped to spend all of my credit on
I'm surprised sydney isn't in the headline
fresh arrow
nanzer is being shifty but this is only based on "industry sources"
melbourne is more hip than sydney :^)
and we have a state government that cares about esports
sullen berry
I do remember one of our political parties aiming to move NZ away from dairy farrming and getting into a "growing competitive esports industry"
said it was good for the environment ๐คฃ
upper niche
It's more a matter of who's willing to pay the franchise fees.
I've spoken with two people who have the money, but both didn't like the franchise terms.
plush moon
i got this rank in deathmatch competivtive
modest elbow
acoustic vigil
fast basin
wtf
you can sub people in mid map now apparently according to Pit
FU paused the game and subbed in Crackinlackin between rounds
supple prism
medical reasons maybe?
fast basin
nope, it was literally just because they sucked in the round
yet they still did it
they did it again, they subbed in Rown, the new guy, for Beasthalo in their attack.
wtf is Fusion doing
then they subbed Halo back in
they're literally changing people in and out for Defense and Attack
it's allowed now? Kappa
what kind of unfair advantage is that!
livid matrix
Should xQc be allowed back in OWL?
median lance
i think he should be allowed back in but he'll probably do the same shit and get banned again
onyx shore
yeah
median lance
he hasn't changed
onyx shore
bad things xqc did was mild compared to other punished players
pearl stratus
He was never kicked out.
So it doesn't matter about allowed or not.
It's a stupid argument.
He was released from the team, just needs to be signed from a new one.
median lance
oh yeah, duh
onyx shore
so,the "ban" immediately doesnt count after he got released?
pearl stratus
There was no ban. He was suspended for four games, and released.
onyx shore
sorry,i mean suspension
sterile fractal
Hey guys can you help me in something, can u check if the tickets for june 14 and june 15 matches are available to buy, cuz for me it says its not available (usually it would say its out of stock but for me its just unavailable and it tells me to check back again incase the tickets are back on sale)
For overwatch league
warped axle
Toronto, Chicago, Paris, Stockholm, Beijing, Busan
Those are the 6 new cities I want for the next season of OWL
sullen berry
Melbourne, Vancouver, Paris, Stockholm or Busan would be decent for international teams
That French and South Korean Team support would be expected so I would think at least 2 of them will be new US-based teams
red anvil
from the rumors it sounds like it's another chinese rather then Busan
Paris and stockholm is probably correct
NA, no clue
sullen berry
the less optimistic chinese team in season 2
vs an even sadder chinese team fresh with no Korean picks
sounds nice, for a change
sullen berry
you mean the analyst show?
torpid charm
@pseudo swift Watchpoint?
sullen berry
@pseudo swift if it's some talkshow, they do this every Mon/Tues for an hour, expect a new episode for this week today
pseudo swift
Um
No
It was a match
Tornado ESports vs. Gladiators Team
But these 2 teams aren`t in OW League
@torpid charm and @sullen berry
sick nimbus
What's the tourney schedule or is it over?
opaque cargo
New hanzo's gonna be in the finals, right?
limber pine
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
lofty reef
Hello
hazy arrow
Alright, I believe we can beat Seoul but if we want to get to Stage play-offs, we have to beat Valiant and that will be difficult as hell. Still, considering they have secured their places for Stage and Season play-offs, maybe they will go easy on us
Anyway, #BurnBlue 
sick nimbus
If doesn't beat 
you would at least need outlaws and Philly to mess up and considering they gonna fight each other it should help in your favor i would think
torpid charm
lapis helm
balmy wolf
!standings
somber yewBOT
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 New York Excelsior 33 5 38 122-38-4
2 Los Angeles Valiant 26 12 38 96-60-7
3 Boston Uprising 24 14 38 92-70-3
4 London Spitfire 23 15 38 97-66-3
5 Los Angeles Gladiators 23 15 38 89-71-3
6 Philadelphia Fusion 23 15 38 89-76-2
7 Houston Outlaws 21 17 38 89-73-2
8 Seoul Dynasty 21 17 38 87-74-3
9 San Francisco Shock 16 22 38 72-81-5
10 Dallas Fuel 11 27 38 54-96-7
11 Florida Mayhem 7 31 38 42-112-5
12 Shanghai Dragons 0 38 38 21-133-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
silk linden
silk linden
She's the best person in overwatch
sick nimbus
vestal berry
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
vestal berry
shanghai bout to catch a W next game, I CAN FEEL IT
silk linden
Freefeel it
paper crag
so is gesture still supposed to be this amazing main tank?
i've never really followed london so idk how good gesture is, but he has/had to be pretty good if he kept fissure indefinitely benched, right?
supple prism
fissure is on Glad
balmy wolf
gesture is by all means an amazing tank
just outclassed by fissure lmao
ive played with both before and its hard to tell the difference between em bc im not a pro
warm venture
Shanghai still winless?
supple prism
yes
warm venture
Shanghai BTFO
supple prism
what?
sullen berry
This chat could not be more divisive
I'm at an interview after the most unsatifying match of the day between GLA / Shanghai (but don't worry, diya will pop off for the penultimate time)
tight crater
Don't play overwatch and I have hardly experience with the community but I acquired a code for $20 off at purchase for overwatch league merch
It expires in 1 hour so if you want it @ me
Just gonna drop the code here so if any lucky person finds it they can use it
M03286YMAUE2U8Z5
mint turtle
@tight crater thanks man, i just used it for a shanghai jersey โค
sullen berry
nicely done @tight crater
mint turtle
i think he got it through t-mobile, thats what it said on the receipt, just a heads up if anyone else has a t-mobile contract โค
haughty birch
So do I have this right? NRG has a pro team PLUS an OWL team (SF Shock)?
limber pine
NRG owns an OWL team and has a team in Contenders, yes.
silk linden
most orgs in OWL have an academy team that plays in contenders
limber pine
@balmy wolf #lf-players-na
balmy wolf
yea?
fast cove
hellO
tight crater
@mint turtle no problem haha enjoy
sullen berry
Canada's meme game is strong before xQc is even in the match
@warped axlesorry I'm disrupting your predictions
I can't do mine on mobile so here's a PSA https://clips.twitch.tv/GlutenFreeSmellyRingItsBoshyTime
vagrant niche
!schedule
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
vagrant niche
OH BOI
RIP Dragons
GLA that's a solid 0-4
Shock has to throw hard for them to win
vestal berry
Nah, shanghai has been honing their chakras for a good few months
They gonna release them these next two games
vagrant niche
@vestal berry brother, did you get those skins yet?
you think they going to let you get them this week?
sullen berry
It's theoretically impossible to win both games based on current statistics
Time to throw daemin onto support and free feel on dps to make sure their starting lineup is unpredictable enough to generate a map win at least
vagrant niche
ADO on mercy
lets GO
POGGERS
Geguri on Zen
every moment she puts healing orb on someone the Crowd will go mad and the analysts will go say "WHAT A PLAY!!!"
sullen berry
I'm out all day so I'm going to be praying like hell for stronger predictions
3-1 
3-2 
0-3
Expecting some indecent sandbagging today to make playoff games a priority this week
Watching the stage playoffs on a workday WOO
vestal berry
I got the orisa Druid skin @vagrant niche
And the graffiti skin, that's all I really wanted
vagrant niche
i thought you always saying every week that if Shangai going ot win you get a skin for them
vestal berry
Nah I never said that
vagrant niche
my bad, i must confused you with someone else here
vestal berry
As much as I like shanghai, I only buy dynasty skins
Just cause they look good with gold weapons
vagrant niche
there is someone here tho that says that every week
sullen berry
@vagrant niche sounds like everyone in the back of their minds, I'll commit if they get more than just a map win like a red card for self harm mid game lol
rare sonnet
Shanghai 0-40 omegalul
rare sonnet
i can't wait for them to be bottom next season too
sullen berry
They dived so hard
They might have a fair go at post season or pre season stage 2 to prove they can sort things out
But that's a hypothetical if anything changes between then and end of the year
rare sonnet
they'll have to sell their koreans
having a multinational team
when your guys can't even learn english
is an issue
sullen berry
No they'll blame it on the Chinese not adapting to Koreans
If they value them enough
I can't imagine what happens at the end of this week esp for Diya and Co.
vagrant niche
@sullen berry I know what will happen to Freekill
vagrant niche
please, i haven't finished saying my idea yet
Freekill will be promoted to team captain
and lead the new generation on S2
on a serious note
they have to go full english or drop the Koreans
that Chinese + Korean combination on the feed it's not working
my bad, it's not Chinese, it's Mandarin
sullen berry
Kephrii is seriously interested in gunning for the dps position if that's how it will go down
Free kill in team captain position tries not to be American dependent
Until they run out of coaches and he is head coach instead
They go full Canto team
Instead of the Chinese contenders teams
Because clearly none of them could play at ow league levels, they decide to go with Chinese Taipei & Hong Kong mixup
hybrid helm
@sullen berry for team USA? For World Cup? I thought Kephrii is confirmed out of it
hybrid helm
Oh no
sullen berry
All known logic points to either having an established Korean roster
hybrid helm
This team is enough of a meme as is
sullen berry
Or a coordinated mixed national team
upper niche
Oh, forgot to mention - I have a permanent home for my Overwatch League ICS calendar now if anyone wants it: http://owl.tjsr.id.au
so now people don't have to worry about the host going away.
sullen berry
Clean English comms is all their missing in comparison
It's the only gateway into the OW League according to him
Wants to claim that sweet underdog status
And outplay Architect
So shock would not be a team he would choose for the widow matchups
hybrid helm
Kephrii does not deserve a spot in OWL.. if Jake is questionable/doesnโt deserve then Kephrii?
hybrid helm
Pine for example has very good mccree and even other dps heroes
vagrant niche
so they can sell Merch like crazy Level 900IQ
got to take advantage of the Geguri fandom too
milk them dry boi
Chinese too smart
hybrid helm
โClean English commsโ since when are Korean or Mandarin dirty?
Comms can work in any language. SHD donโt need โEnglishโ
vagrant niche
so you saying Korean should go learn chinese?
cause that aint working
my bad again, mandarin
hybrid helm
Not the whole language but comms yes
vagrant niche
They all go full english or drop the Koreans and keep it all chinese
that's my take
hybrid helm
And they should have a full time translator if they donโt
And replace Freekill lol
vagrant niche
NOO don't let Freekill go
he's the only reason i watch the dragons
he's so fun to watch
hybrid helm
They have better Chinese players in China
That for some (political?) reason didnโt get picked for OWL
They didnโt need Koreans.. except geguri and ado maybe?
This should be a league.. not merchandise market..
vagrant niche
They didn't need Koreans
except 2/3rds of what they have
hybrid helm
I said maybe
Idk the Chinese players who didnโt get picked
They have much more talent in China
vagrant niche
Dragons are going to roll is so much dough by the end of the first season
they going to have the last laugh
pure Genious, make millions just by loosing, EZ ๐ฐ
verbal roost
Draft for OWL maybe that would work
sullen berry
@hybrid helm I can only take this kephrii joke so far, but when you need leadership material that you can find in a support like Custa or a tank like Fissure Diya is fine (as seen from the records and the times he gets heads) but why not consider having a shot caller and a sub who stands out from the roster
I have nothing against having better Chinese players, I'm all for it because that is far more representative of C H I N A
sullen berry
MG left, but Roshan is lurking
vagrant niche
arguable as good as Geguri, but one is going to make them money and the other isn't
sullen berry
He will pop off for the team this week along with Daemin's Symmetra
vagrant niche
MG wasn't happy about leaving you know, they basically made his stay unpleasant so he left rather than kick him
sullen berry
I'm satisfied also on the pacific division that Dallas will pick up a single players' salary for their winnings for the end of this season
sullen berry
@vagrant niche where is the source for this
vagrant niche
someone translated MG's stuff
and from what i recall, he didn't sound pleased about it
comp overwatch reddit
it's pretty clear to me their goal is just to focus on marketing their brand and sell merch and products
you can tell the way they invested on their matches
sullen berry
That...
vagrant niche
buying merch like crazy to give out to the fans to create customers to the brand
sullen berry
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest
vagrant niche
it's just smart of them if you think about it
sullen berry
Patriotism wins of the high expectations of Bob Kraft
vagrant niche
you know that super Valiant fan? he's always there supporting the valiant
with a mowhawk?
now he's sporting chinese stuff too, that's how they get that $$$
vagrant niche
i'm telling you they are pure genius ๐ค
sullen berry
Well
No longer able to carry that underdog status if losing is easier for their reputation
Such a great way to have capitalist pigs on display ๐ฝ /s
vagrant niche
just think about it man, Why sub Geguri out and put MG in?
sullen berry
I can't expect Australia looming for season 2 had a better deal than <30 million to buy in
vagrant niche
when One of them is just going to get one pick and the whole crowd and twitch chat will lose their mind
sullen berry
And when the whole point of city teams is to you know
vagrant niche
i'm not saying Geguri is not talented btw, she does has some very clutch bombs, but you get the message
sullen berry
Market to their audience
They've refined it to the point anyone that isn't Chinese can participate too
I give their discord server a profitability margin of 7/10
You would think that they have fans flaming their own server but no they're too loyal to be upset over their 39th loss
hybrid helm
Everyone forgot about Undad and his โmade in China condomsโ
vagrant niche
that T mobile poll already should be a giveway that everything is going according to plan for them
sullen berry
It's insane, why fearless?
Is he the most beautiful tank equivalent for the team or is it some sort of E meme on weibo
vagrant niche
yall remember that Fan from the crowd that said something along the lines "Who needs to win when you have great fans?"
imagine having a legion of those
sullen berry
Oh err
vagrant niche
๐ฐ ๐ฐ
sullen berry
That was the comedian from silicon valley no?
verbal roost
It is kind of a phenomenon for a team on such a long streak to be getting so much attention.
vagrant niche
i have no idea, i recall he was asian
hybrid helm
It wonโt hold much longer
vagrant niche
and had some sketchy book
sullen berry
I can't believe they profit that much to get him on more than once to promote his own book 
hybrid helm
SHD was a meme for season 1 yes.. 0-40 and all but season 2 it will just be boring
hybrid helm
Either way it just shows unprofessional league production from blizzard
vagrant niche
anyways, i have made my point already. It shouldn't be hard to pin point all the pieces already out there and come to a different conclusion my bois 
sullen berry
I'm going to need new drinking games now that there's no more dragons playing after this weekend
@hybrid helm we've known this from the beginning
hybrid helm
I wasnโt playing OW during APEX time but it looks much better than OWL soap-opera
deft valley
it only wasn't a soap opera because no one cared enough
sullen berry
Not one person I know can objectively say this inaugural season was good enough to recommend to friends or family
sullen berry
Esports or gaming culture aside
vagrant niche
the only thing i didn't liked was Bliz uptight drama policies other than DK
sullen berry
I would say the broadcast was really good, if you look at the direction and accessibility compared to previous competitions
Nothing more satisfying than having all the information you need onscreen
deft valley
I recommended it to friends
sullen berry
And the away skins really working to tell teams apart
deft valley
they don't watch live because it's at 2AM here but they watch matches I recommend
sullen berry
I couldn't imagine what would happen if anyone here in NZ found out I've been watching these games full time
It's an overcommitment here
But more relevant come season 2 and the interest in Australian esports scene starts to shine
deft valley
there's definitely gonna be 2+ more EU teams
vagrant niche
Denmark with Dafran as coach please 
sullen berry
At least 2 more from the states remember
They can't be too greedy with the international money
Have to make it local revenue too before turning that income through to their EU Division
limber pine
----------------------------------------------------
Stage 4 - Week 5 of the Overwatch League is live in 5 minutes!
DAY 1 MATCHES:
4 PM PST: Los Angeles Gladiators vs Shanghai Dragons
6 PM PST: Los Angeles Valiant vs San Francisco Shock
8 PM PST: Seoul Dynasty vs Dallas Fuel
Join #esports-discussion for live chat of the games!
Watch live at:
๐ฌ๐ง https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague
Full schedule:
๐ https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule
fast cove
SHIELDS UP
WINGS OUT
BURN BLUE
sullen berry
No Malik
rapid bobcat
Yo Malik looks different today
sullen berry
New skin heh
rapid bobcat
LUL
limber umbra
ready for 0-40?
sullen berry
They dug hard for a good comparison there
Hydration genji isn't even his peak performance
Doomfist + brigitte is like an instant win condition for all 4 maps
balmy wolf
Roshan?
sick nimbus
Just throwing the meta to the side is the biggest tool of doomfist reaper mei why not
final river
I live in LA and I still want dragons to win
vagrant niche
buy a t shirt, maybe that will help
forest wharf
Roshan wat
final river
I bought a Valiant shirt, not here yet
forest wharf
Supposedly x6gaming coaches were hired to work with shanghai for the final 2 games
balmy wolf
oof
visual glen
That was absurdly fast
vagrant niche
EZ clap
final river
its over already
fiery reef
Shanghai "thats going to be a very quick point A" dragons.
final river
silent audience
fiery reef
They do so much better when geguri is on Zarya, even if shes not doing good overall herself.... yet they rarely use it
sullen berry
Boy am I silently happy Roshan is back
He's no Fissure or fearless
But this is supposed to be Roshan Unleashed
Altering is like "I'm glad I can speak some Korean in this team"
sick nimbus
Ado looking for the rest of his team to follow up his picks 
sullen berry
Unfortunately he still looks onstage as if he is playing for himself at the chokepoint
forest wharf
Shanghai "thats tragic" Dragons
sick nimbus
Surefour =
sinful heron
Diya plz
fiery reef
Good on Gladiators for not high fiving after matches like this. You shouldn't feel good about crushing Dragons.
sinful heron
What's the general opinion on Altering? I think he has much room for improvement but I'm not sure if I'm just being dumb
brisk roost
@limber umbra Toxic
sinful heron
Yeah, I have to agree, although it's bad form, the more you win the more money you make, and this is their jobs
limber umbra
sinful heron
Don't get me wrong, don't start insulting them
limber umbra
high fiving each other is more "good job" than "fuck those guys"
sinful heron
Yeah exactly
sinful heron
That was really nice
fiery reef
LOL did he just call him freefail on accident
sinful heron
I just want a good league, the more competition the better imo
Why was Altering there
forest wharf
Rip
sinful heron
Yeesh, I'd love to call "OMFG BRIG OP" on that but like, don't blade when you're next to her, it's pretty ez
Did he pin her back to the point
I heard someone screaming
sinful heron
That's awesome
That's how you stagger someone
COME ON
Like EVERY D.va ult kills Altering
limber umbra
LOL
sinful heron
I mean tbf
raven badger
shanghai supports suck compared to other OWL supports
limber umbra
LOL
fallen forge
shanghai isnt doing so good
sinful heron
He looked like he was behind the pillar
So I'll give him that one
BUT STILL
CMON MAN
forest wharf
Fuck why am i watching this game
raven badger
like you see their dps sit with 80 health for 5 seconds when other teams you see people get healed almost instantly if they take damage
torpid charm
sinful heron
Yeah
forest wharf
sinful heron
I hate to blame one or two people
vagrant niche
don t worry guys, there's still the chance of a reverse sweep
i'm sorry that's a bad joke
sinful heron
But the supports on SHD really feel a level below
sinful heron
Like when you compare Altering to say Rawkus (He's a support right?) or Jjonak if you want to be really harsh
forest wharf
L0L-40
raven badger
that's what I think too
vagrant niche
it's that Mandarin Korean for ya
sinful heron
It's like Masters vs Gold
sinful heron
On the same team?
fallen forge
i think i saw before
sinful heron
Idk, but I thought it was like sports numbers where it doesn't really mean that much (except from in Rugby)
fallen forge
its always possible
forest wharf
Pretty sure its just whatever number the player picked
sinful heron
I'm sure, before EVERY single reverse sweep someone has said "This game is over"
vagrant niche
@fallen forge do you actually want to play that game?
fallen forge
i mean
gladiators beat new york
witha reverse sweep
i dont plan on them losing now though
sinful heron
I'm sure they don't plan on losing now either
sinful heron
I feel like there's like one bug in Overwatch because there's all kinds of stuff like that
D.va bomb, Rein shatter, Doom punch
hallow cipher
May I ask, why do pro D.va players use their defense matrix while they are flying up in the air to ult?
fallen forge
its also been tested that a sign can block the bomb
its habit to defense matrix when flying
i guess
sinful heron
I'm not sure, but I'm assuming if they're using their ult they're going to lose their mech and if they drain the DM they might block a random shot, and since they're not going to have a mech anyway there's literally no reason not to
fallen forge
that could also be it
sinful heron
But yeah, the terrain in this game can be so shockingly inconsistent sometimes
sinful heron
Considering the amount of abilites which interact with terrain and how often it happens (idk how often you guys have had that BS happen as a DF main it hurts) but it's pretty bad
quasi stump
jesus fuck
sullen berry
Just the slope abuse we you rocket punch
sullen berry
Hey that's a big goose play
stoic crater
BOOP
sullen berry
@stoic crater boop the whole team
sick nimbus
Who says Lucio not viable anymore
stoic crater
My internet just died rippo
sullen berry
That was some Dallas Fuel strats they picked up
limber umbra
well played
sinful heron
But that was close though
stoic crater
WAT
sullen berry
Cater curse smh
limber umbra
i almost shat my pants when they couldnt close it immediately
fallen forge
please no gladiators
sullen berry
Wait a second
fallen forge
dont lose to them
sullen berry
fallen forge
they msut be hAckeRiNG
sinful heron
When Diya died I clenched
vagrant niche
that was a big mistake from gladiators
sullen berry
Of course, let them go to map 5
sinful heron
I'm not ashamed to admit it
sullen berry
They need the stats real badly
fallen forge
but they cant risk it
sinful heron
Nice.
quasi stump
glads aren't gonna lose, don't worry
sullen berry
As far as dragons self improvement goes
They could very well snag a few map points this week
quasi stump
be nice if they could do something about hydration
sinful heron
SOMEONE KILL THE PHARAH
quasi stump
there we go diya
sinful heron
THANK YOU
quasi stump
diya is a monster
fallen forge
you want shanghai to win?
brisk roost
DIYA AWAKENED
sinful heron
You don't?
quasi stump
I would like to see that, yes
limber umbra
they;re gonna have to work harder if they want to
stoic crater
๐ฅ oeuf
quasi stump
but they won't
fallen forge
i mean of course thy need to win at least one game
sinful heron
Surefour over-rated, Diya activated? (PogChamp)
sullen berry
@stoic crater ๐ฅฉ boeuf
brisk roost
Freekill again smh
sullen berry
Freekus
sinful heron
Shocker, SHD played aggro and it didn't work
limber umbra
do or die
quasi stump
hydration is scary
fallen forge
hydration is my daddy
stoic crater
I mean i believe most players try their best for the teams
quasi stump
sigh
fallen forge
void already has ult again?
limber umbra
lol at this QP attempt by surefour
quasi stump
gg
fallen forge
gggggg
fallen forge
gooooooooooood game
vagrant niche
warm venture
Shanghai got that first L?
stoic crater
Omfg twitch chat and its copy pasta
vagrant niche
the silver zen copypasta is pretty
warm venture
I meant
Has Shanghai got that first W?
vagrant niche
what do you think?
forest wharf
Was not excited for roshan
warm venture
Somebody should give Shanghai a pitty win. Like put in their second stringers or something.
vagrant niche
@warm venture houston already did that
they put them with their B team
no, it was valiant no?
warm venture
Well, I'm a Detroit Lions fan, so I guess Shanghai is muh new team in OWL, we'll get em next year bois.
vagrant niche
that's what people said, we'll get them next stage
next next next
and they have regressed
from how they were playing from stage 3
quasi stump
watching this team is depressing
vagrant niche
i found it entertaining as hell
it's just amusing
i used to take them like a serious team until stage 2
i just enjoy the clown show nowdays
sick nimbus
Man I know lost but that was pure slop the way they defended
vagrant niche
lets be real guys
polar pier
oh no
quasi stump
vs the shock on saturday
vagrant niche
how bad does Shock has to throw for them to take it?
Shock been playing good
cause Crusty
vagrant niche
you think Architech,Baby or 150k are going to allow the dragons to take it?
or Danteh
warm venture
I actually root for Dallas Fuel, aren't they the guys that have like half their team got kicked out?
vagrant niche
Shaz is budget Jjonak
quasi stump
no? just xqc I think
warm venture
Dafran doesn't even OWL. So that's like watchin the NBA without Lebron
quasi stump
ah right, rascal
warm venture
Cause he shits on everyone.
quasi stump
welp
warm venture
OWL is a shadier organization than the NFL.
fresh trail
He had a negative background, booster,thrower,stream sniper, etc. Blizzard is harsh with him for that @warm venture @vagrant niche
warm venture
yeah I know all that, he's still the best player in the game.
fresh trail
Yeah
fresh trail
Hes now much better
vagrant niche
he's not perfect
fresh trail
idk season 2 maybe? if hes doing good
vagrant niche
that furry is playing Dragon ball nowdays
warm venture
That furry could not be defeated in Mortal Kombat.
Homie was unreal.
I play against him once, and it was as if I did not understand life.
but who is the face of OWL?
Does OWL have a face?
vagrant niche
whoever the MVP will be
at the end
aka Jjonak or carpe
either one of those two
good luck fans, no matter how much you vote, Fearless or Geguri are not going to be the mvp
fresh trail
Its def jjonak or carpe
warm venture
I kinda like Spitfire, the British team, they seams chill AF
heady idol
today I realized, you can spam Twitch chat like every second message from a single account and not get banned.
all that one-man spam shit
vagrant niche
@heady idol i don't mean to be rude, but that's how it's been for years, it's the norm
i'm not sure why you expect any different
this chat is for more civilized chat
BISCHUUU POGGERS
that bomb was huge
heady idol
I mean a single guy posted about 50 times in about a minute
he did get banned tho, so we gucci, mods just slow
vagrant niche
@solar trout sorry i missed that, what did they said?
solar trout
Bischu said thay can beat Boston Uprising now after certain "staff changes"
Only two changes recently were Dreamkazper being fired and aimgod being added afaik
heady idol
Good manners Bischu. Said they can win, but says that it might not be BU player's fault because they had staff changes they couldn't control
solar trout
Ah, didn't know they lost their head coach before stage 4
That makes sense as to why they've been so bad this stage
vagrant niche
@solar trout
he's on Shock now
and Shock has improved cause of it
thus, why i think Shock has to throw really hard to lose vs Shangai on Saturday
jovial jewel
0-39 baby ๐
vagrant niche
Hanzo is back form the Sony E3 conference wb buddy
solar trout
0-40
vagrant niche
it's going to be 0-40, the meme is going to be real
clear crane
damn. Valiant throwing
sinful heron
Jesus
jovial jewel
VALIANT THROWING
sick nimbus
Looks like be sand bagging right now since they already clinched playoffs and stage playoffs
polar pier
๐ค
sinful heron
I hate it when players say "Yeah we've done what we wanted to do so who cares?"
I cannot tell you the amount of times in sports a team gets where they want to be before the end of the season and then switches off, goes out of form, and gets stomped at the end
And then, usually, has the nerve to say "OH WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE WENT WRONG"
jovial jewel
i mean for OWL its different since the teams want to keep their strats under wraps
sick nimbus
= 
if they dont pick up the slack this week they gonna enter playoffs the way they entered stage 1 finals hence why took them out twice same day with 
in between
jovial jewel
like nyxl probably has several different team comps and strats that they want to hold for the playoffs, so they just run dive and don't do anything else
solar trout
That offense was crazy good
stoic crater
AAH
north tendon
clear crane
wow B DPS doing work
stoic crater
Is valiant the only team with custom pride patches on their shirt or are there other teams aswell?
stoic crater
WOOOOOOO
clear crane
besides that i wonder whats the weakest link for them
Their DPS should be no issue with the 4 they got. Super seems to be a very good on that off tank role and if not him, Nevix is solid as well. Ppl keep saying Sleepy has quietly become one of the top Zens. Dont know enough about their main tanks and Moth
solar trout
big bonus
solar trout
xD
ruby monolith
lol
sinful heron
The best.
solar trout
lol
paper crag
oh man i thought map 1 was already over or something because i just tuned in and was greeted with seagull's stats page
phew
solar trout
Dallas pls no choke. Dynasty is trash recently