esports-discussion

[waxen rampart]

?

[marsh pumice]

nah just kidding

[waxen rampart]

for what

[marsh pumice]

i was messing around cause of the all-access pass that you need to pay

[jovial jewel]

damn shaz getting bullied

[waxen rampart]

what was he asking for an inv for

[sinful fox]

the O.W.

discord

[supple prism]

you can just get one, right?

[marsh pumice]

https://discord.gg/pnVUKH

[sinful fox]

no

not this discord

the O.W.

for high rank players

[marsh pumice]

oh

[waxen rampart]

is that a thing

[marsh pumice]

im a noob sorry

[sinful fox]

yeah

[clear crane]

wow

[marsh pumice]

awesome

go lads go

[jovial jewel]

:monkaS:

[marsh pumice]

glads*

[waxen rampart]

lag lads

[marsh pumice]

^^

[stoic crater]

There is still hope

[marsh pumice]

sour patch

[warped axle]

I wonder if NYXL just feels bad for their opponents

Which is why they give them maps

[marsh pumice]

you think so?

nah they would win all if they could

[warped axle]

They're machines

[marsh pumice]

it's overwatch and lot's of randomness too

[frosty forge]

Heh THANKS GUYS

[warped axle]

If they wanted to they could be waaaaaaaay more dominant

[frosty forge]

sour sweet

[marsh pumice]

kek

[frosty forge]

SOUR PATCH KIDS

[marsh pumice]

😂

[jovial jewel]

THANKS GUYS :haHAA:

[frosty forge]

THANKS GUYS :4Head:

Thats it im getting discord nitro

[clear crane]

jjonak most damage again

jeez

[jovial jewel]

gotta buy discord nitro so i can spam my monka emotes

👏

[marsh pumice]

don't give blizzard ideas

or they will put pay to win emotes

[stoic crater]

I LOVE SOES HAIR

[jovial jewel]

PINE

[clear crane]

pine gonna meme agasin

[marsh pumice]

man pine is on hope he is on a bad day so glads have it easier

omg casters so biased

wow shaz

[clear crane]

holy shit

i wanted this

because now we can see spider pine!!!!!!!!!

[marsh pumice]

glads need a rat now

junkrat

"as usual"

[clear crane]

comeon pine do something funny

[marsh pumice]

he did

died

nice

[clear crane]

yayyyyy spider pine time

[marsh pumice]

good time

now a hold and 2-2

we need 5 maps this casters need to do extra hours and extra biased comments like usual

[clear crane]

plz play torb libero

[marsh pumice]

[clear crane]

get off the doomfist

[marsh pumice]

omg

"it's a grea pick" this casters make me laugh so hard

[clear crane]

get off the fking doomfist!

[marsh pumice]

yeh not sure what he is doing

[sinful fox]

doomfist is good there

[marsh pumice]

\o/

[sinful fox]

gibraltar is his best map

by far

i think its a good pic

[stoic crater]

drops for daysss

[sinful fox]

k

[clear crane]

pine flanking again

[marsh pumice]

yeh

"one of the better doomfist"

[clear crane]

uhh why valk?

[marsh pumice]

not sure they ult's sometimes on glads are a waste, dva made like 2 selfD for nothing

[stable trellis]

ooooh a doomfist that's actualy valuable in owl

[marsh pumice]

ahahhahahaha

that was funny, you wont pass

what

[stable trellis]

what indeed

they bronze'd it up

[clear crane]

lmfaoooooo

[marsh pumice]

nice

[clear crane]

omgh

[stable trellis]

whew

it was almost a trainwreck

[marsh pumice]

so doomfist was a good strategy

hidration is sick on doomfist we already know

but wasn't expecting that

i mean he was smart shutting down pine most of the time wtih doomfist

[warped axle]

NYXL didn't have an answer to Hydration

[marsh pumice]

that is almost a win

yep

[clear crane]

snipers dont work against doomfist

[warped axle]

Fast + Good health + Always healing himself

[marsh pumice]

glad to see glads turning this around

[warped axle]

Yeah I can see that

[sinful fox]

widow counters doomfist arguably

gibraltar is just a really good doom map

[worn falcon]

wait wtf i went to dinne then they're tied?

mfw

[clear crane]

stay away

maybe they win

[marsh pumice]

yep you should never dinne

would be nice if glads won

[worn falcon]

plsno

[marsh pumice]

ny is meh on this meta

[worn falcon]

NYXL4lyfe

[sinful fox]

nyxl is relaly good on this meta

they are just saving strats for final playoffs

[stable trellis]

playing it safe?

[marsh pumice]

kek

[sinful fox]

they are just saving strats

its commonly done in lots of other esports

[marsh pumice]

why saving strats?

they can't make new ones after the ones get old?

[sinful fox]

because they are most likely gonna have to play glads again in finals

assuming glads keep popping off

no

thats not how the game works

theres only so much innovation that can happen in one meta

[marsh pumice]

so you are saying they will prefer to lose now, to not show strats so they can win on the finals?

[sinful fox]

i guarantee they've figured out how to counter glads but they don't want to show it until it is really important

yep

they will prob make stage playoffs anyways

and they wanna save their tough shit until stage/real finals

[marsh pumice]

makes no sense

[sinful fox]

not that they are throwing

not just using secret comps/special comps

cuz they dont wanna unveil them

otherwise other teams will adapt to it

[marsh pumice]

so they are one trick strats?

[sinful fox]

ok basically

every time a team is playing another team

they watch all their vods

and notice every single thing the team does

[marsh pumice]

that goes for all teams

[sinful fox]

yes

[marsh pumice]

yep

[sinful fox]

but nyxl has a real shot at winning the entire season 1

and if everyone knows exactly what to expect

in the finals

it greatly reduces their chances

[marsh pumice]

yeh i guess

but not wining to not show strats instead of making new ones till then cause so much will change makes no sense to me

[sinful fox]

but they might just be saving for stage playoffs too

you will even hear the casters say it sometimes

its not like they are throwing or trying to lose

[marsh pumice]

dam saeb is in

[sinful fox]

they just arent going all out and using everything in their toolbelt

[marsh pumice]

yeh i understand what you mean but my opinion is not the same

[sinful fox]

i really dont think its a matter of opinion my guy

it happens in every esport

to this day

and especially in nyxl position where they have a real shot at winning the whole thingt

[marsh pumice]

overwatch is very different and in constant annoying change sometimes

[sinful fox]

it makes too much sense

i mean you can ask any coach

or teammate

of any OWL team

they save strats

not just nyxl

many of them

[marsh pumice]

yeh i guess so but that when they don't need to do them to win

[sinful fox]

wrong

[marsh pumice]

or not

oki

[sinful fox]

sorry not trying to be a dick but ive known many high level coaches in this game

and they all say the same thing

[marsh pumice]

nah don't worry we just sharing opinions here

im sure you probably have more know-how of this then me, i don't know coaches and stuff

[sinful fox]

well at a time i wanted to grind to be in the OWL but i wasnt good enough

so instead i just spammed ranked

and it helped me meet some people who ended up here

[clear crane]

ok

[marsh pumice]

omg that was awesome

[clear crane]

i honestly cant tell if nyxl is trying or not

[sinful fox]

glads popping

well i think that anyways

[marsh pumice]

that's cool @sinful fox

[sinful fox]

nyxls biggest competitors rn

is valiant and gladiators

they are the scariest for them

[marsh pumice]

glads common

go go go

[sinful fox]

i still need to order my glads jersey

lol

lets go glads

[clear crane]

wow

[marsh pumice]

omg omg

[clear crane]

reverse sweep

theres no way they come back

[solar trout]

wow what a week for LA teams

[sinful fox]

pog

gladiators went off

[brisk roost]

Wow

[sinful fox]

thats a big pog

[marsh pumice]

this was insane

[brisk roost]

Damn

[vagrant niche]

GODAM

[brisk roost]

HOLY SHIT

[stable trellis]

omfg

[marsh pumice]

wow

[balmy wolf]

NICE

[rare sonnet]

lol get rekt nyxl

[marsh pumice]

very nice

[rare sonnet]

first stage with 2 losses

[regal oracle]

S H I E L D S
U
P

[solar trout]

fissure lol

[brisk roost]

First stage with 2 losses wow

[supple prism]

nyxls first more than 1 loss stage

[vagrant niche]

that was freaking POGGERS

[brisk roost]

BOTH LA TEAMS DEFEATED NYXL

POGGERS

[warped axle]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

SHIELDS UP

[stoic crater]

THEY FOOKIN DID IT AH

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[brisk roost]

TEAM LA LETS GOOOO

[marsh pumice]

\o/

[regal oracle]

LA'S DOING IT MY DUDES

[warped axle]

[marsh pumice]

indeed

\o/

im sad london lost but this made me happy again

very happy

[nocturne patio]

omg what they did it

[marsh pumice]

hydration is Portuguese so i like glads too, it's my 2nd team, london n1

[jovial jewel]

FELLAS FELLAS

NYXL WASN'T EVEN USING 1% OF THEIR POWER

[nocturne patio]

lol why was my name that

[brisk roost]

I have a feeling NYXL is planning something hence why they're losing

[marsh pumice]

kek @jovial jewel

yeh they were saving strats someone said

oh well to bad for them

[jovial jewel]

i mean they're still top seed no matter what so

👏

[marsh pumice]

they should save more strats then all the time

[jovial jewel]

i'm telling you NYXL about to go super saiyan god

[cerulean plume]

I just hope the throwing doesn't fuck with their confidence

[jovial jewel]

this is gonna be poggers

[polar pasture]

i think NYXL is pulling some tricky shit here

[marsh pumice]

oh yeh, unless meta favors them nope

[polar pasture]

sbb basically threw game 5

[marsh pumice]

he got nerfed by jeff

[solar trout]

SHD gonna go 0-40 this season

lets go

[brisk roost]

Lul

[marsh pumice]

soe always so cute, man this girl makes owl so much cuter

[brisk roost]

Anyways yeah I have a feeling NYXL will slap LAG and LAV on the stage playoffs like what they did to Boston

[marsh pumice]

we shall see

[polar pasture]

maybe they want to play LAG in playoffs instead of Houston or Philly

[brisk roost]

So NYXL was like "alright we'll let you reverse sweep us so we'll test you on the playoffs"

[polar pasture]

some tricky-ass false confidence play, maybe

[marsh pumice]

im sure they did

poor dragons still 0

im sure next game will be a win

[brisk roost]

Shock will prob beat Philly

[warped axle]

Don't you dare say that

[marsh pumice]

😂

[brisk roost]

I'm sorry but it's likely happening 😂

[warped axle]

If it I don't root for my team how can they win?

[brisk roost]

Shock is a team you can't sleep on now

XD!

[warped axle]

They have Sleepy

So yes I can sleep on them

[brisk roost]

But he's ironic

He's always Awakey

[polar pasture]

this game is huge for philly tho

they have to win or they have a preeeetty bad chance of making playoffs

[marsh pumice]

yeh glads figured out ny no matter what they do, i know how and why

but not telling here

[supple prism]

umm ok

[marsh pumice]

fusion should win this easy but with this meta i don't know

[brisk roost]

Fusion would win 3-2 if that's the case

[polar pasture]

wonder if they're gonna stay running shadowburn

[marsh pumice]

yeh probably worst case

[brisk roost]

Is EQO still injured or something?

[waxen rampart]

biggoose just looks like if surefour didnt shower lul

[polar pasture]

eqo has some sort of wrist injury

[waxen rampart]

nice profile picture @polar pasture

[jovial jewel]

waiting for NYXL to mega evolve once the playoffs start

[waxen rampart]

hopefully they actually do and this isnt a result of not practicing

[polar pasture]

if you ask me, philly has a better chance putting carpe on projectile dps and running snillo with how shadowburn has been playing omegalul

tbh to me, if eqo walks out on stage, philly has won

[warped axle]

[ruby pendant]

Excelsior lost?

[limber pine]

yup

told ya it'd be a good match

[ruby pendant]

lol, good thing this wasn't a bet! Gonna have to watch this match.

[waxen rampart]

good shit

[supple prism]

so im guessing its down to seoul and philly on who takes 6th

[polar pasture]

yea

too bad sado's throwing for philly rn

[balmy wolf]

6 teams in the playofss?

I thought it was 2 from pacific and 2 from atlantic lol

[supple prism]

first in each gets a spot then next best 4 gets a spot

[balmy wolf]

Ah ok

[marsh pumice]

what a waste of trans

[balmy wolf]

So LAV and NYXL

[supple prism]

not Val yet

too close

but they will get in

[balmy wolf]

seoul dynasty does not deserve a spot lol

[supple prism]

they may not get one

[polar pasture]

philly or houston need to rlly step it up to take the spot away from seoul tho

[supple prism]

Houston wont, they get the hard games up next

[stoic crater]

Lol wtf that shield tho

[marsh pumice]

sleepy the week link on shock

dam

[polar pasture]

that was a disgusting pulse bomb @eQo

[marsh pumice]

yep

[undone skiff]

wait

did I actually fucking miss the gladiators reverse sweep nyxl

[polar pasture]

yes

[marsh pumice]

oh yeh you did

[warped axle]

It was a great series

[undone skiff]

I need to watch the vod

[warped axle]

Do it

[polar pasture]

premium overwatch

[warped axle]

You get to watch Hydration kick butt as Doomfist

EQO

[marsh pumice]

that trans for what

[warped axle]

Punished Carpe

[stoic crater]

We want Despacito 2

That sign is gr8

[supple prism]

The hell is despacito

[stoic crater]

I believe its a meme revolving around the song and Nasa

[supple prism]

Oh that song is terrible

Way to repetitive

[polar pasture]

carpe's a monster

[final river]

when should I type despacito

[supple prism]

Never

[vestal berry]

!standings

[somber yew]

<:OWL:438990485764177941> Overwatch League Standings <:OWL:438990485764177941>

W L MP MAP W-L-T

1 New York Excelsior 32 5 37 120-37-3
2 Los Angeles Valiant 25 12 37 92-60-7
3 London Spitfire 23 14 37 95-63-3
4 Boston Uprising 23 14 37 88-70-3
5 Los Angeles Gladiators 22 15 37 86-69-3
6 Philadelphia Fusion 21 15 36 85-74-2
7 Houston Outlaws 21 16 37 89-69-2
8 Seoul Dynasty 21 16 37 85-71-3
9 San Francisco Shock 16 20 36 71-78-4
10 Dallas Fuel 10 27 37 50-96-7
11 Florida Mayhem 7 30 37 42-108-5
12 Shanghai Dragons 0 37 37 21-129-2

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Jun 8, 2018, 5:00 AM

[forest wharf]

👽

[strange locust]

how are there so many hanzos in the owl

thats crazy

ahhh rip my bois

[supple prism]

He just happens to work well on some maps

[candid comet]

Fnatic win

[warped axle]

LAG and Philly wins

[fresh turret]

Oh Carpe nutted again

also offtopic

'Despacito' wins you any argument

or at least you can think it does

[balmy wolf]

[tight vault]

la glads are too op plez nerf

[sullen berry]

meanwhile LA Valiant disappoints despite the near perfect win streak

[tight vault]

did anyone expect Glads to win?

[pearl stratus]

Near perfect meaning actual perfect right?

LAV is 7-0 right now.

It just doesn't seem like it should be that way since they never win convincingly.

[tight vault]

i thought they lsot recently?

[whole mulch]

I didn't expect glads to win after seeing the first match's start

total shock

[tight vault]

one of the best parts of OWL is the twitch chat spams

[whole mulch]

I usually ignore it

[tight vault]

their was a spam of "can't spell god without SBB"

[sullen berry]

@pearl stratus in all respects of valiant, they could pick off the last few matches and still get the 10-0 streak much to the disinterest of hard to convince analysts

monte says he himself doesn't think they have what it takes to pop off, they're just... good at the game through consistency

and I'm a valiant fan

[vagrant niche]

anybody has a clip of pine shooting through the gap in Gibraltar yesterday?

[fading lantern]

Where did the discussion channels go?

[deft valley]

they're still there?
you sure you didn't just collapse the category?

[magic zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUsLQ8q6ZiM&feature=youtu.be

Seoul what are you doing

[tight vault]

!standings

[somber yew]

<:OWL:438990485764177941> Overwatch League Standings <:OWL:438990485764177941>

W L MP MAP W-L-T

1 New York Excelsior 32 5 37 120-37-3
2 Los Angeles Valiant 25 12 37 92-60-7
3 London Spitfire 23 14 37 95-63-3
4 Boston Uprising 23 14 37 88-70-3
5 Los Angeles Gladiators 22 15 37 86-69-3
6 Philadelphia Fusion 22 15 37 86-74-2
7 Houston Outlaws 21 16 37 89-69-2
8 Seoul Dynasty 21 16 37 85-71-3
9 San Francisco Shock 16 21 37 71-79-4
10 Dallas Fuel 10 27 37 50-96-7
11 Florida Mayhem 7 30 37 42-108-5
12 Shanghai Dragons 0 37 37 21-129-2

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · Jun 8, 2018, 5:01 PM

[tight vault]

LA glads #1 team after beating NYXL lul

[sand pond]

the shields are up

and what lies behind a shield

but a fist

a doomfist

[ruby pendant]

Shame, that Dynasty are letting their playoff chances slip away

The same with Uprising, lol

Uprising went 10-0 before the ending of last stage too!

[lofty geyser]

holy shit china is 0-37

that's ridiculous

[limber umbra]

let's go dragons

[humble moth]

@ruby pendant its crazy they were the number one contender first stage now they're closer to last than first

[sand pond]

it's pretty wild that I'm actually not 100% certain of how Boston vs. Shanghai is going to play out

[humble moth]

SHD has been consistent the whole season xD

[sand pond]

oof

[midnight marsh]

and what happened to seoul
i thought they were like top teams for a while

[sand pond]

yeah i don't know. There was an interview with some team, not sure if it was seoul or London or whatever, but it was a team that was top tier in stage 1 that basically said that the other teams just got better

[ruby pendant]

@humble moth lol

[fiery reef]

I'll be happy if they manage a 2-3 loss. At least they can pretend to be improving more often

[limber pine]

----------------------------------------------------
Stage 4 - Week 4 of the Overwatch League is live in 5 minutes!

DAY 3 MATCHES:
4 PM PST: Boston Uprising vs Shanghai Dragons
6 PM PST: Florida Mayhem vs Dallas Fuel
8 PM PST: Philadelphia Fusion vs Seoul Dynasty

Join #esports-discussion for live chat of the games!

Watch live at:
🇬🇧 https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague

Full schedule:
🗓 https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule

[fiery reef]

@limber pine seoul has a swedish flag??

[limber pine]

oops

[fiery reef]

❤

[sand pond]

@fiery reef what team were you referring to in reg: the 2-3 loss?

[fiery reef]

shd

[vagrant niche]

yo bois

today 0-38?

[fiery reef]

probably

[sand pond]

lol literally the one team where "yo bois" doesn't apply to

[fiery reef]

yet here i am anyway

[vagrant niche]

one of the most admirable things about shangai fans is their willingness to support them even tho they are trash

[fiery reef]

I mean I did buy a jersey

[vagrant niche]

also I enjoy watching Freekill that guy is so entertaining

a custom one?

[fiery reef]

geguri

[sand pond]

niiiice

i bought a shd zarya skin in-game for geguri

[reef imp]

And I'm back to watch this match, despite saying I'm done with the Dragons. I guess I'm not.

[fiery reef]

nah you are

its just .. you don't wanna be gone when they finally win

[jovial jewel]

7

mfw e-sports discussion is dead

[vagrant niche]

is geguri the only reason you guys like shangai?

[jovial jewel]

i mean ppl like shanghai bcuz they're underdogs

[fiery reef]

Nah, I was watching them since Stage 1.

I liked Undead but he parted

[balmy wolf]

Undad lol

[vagrant niche]

i'm asking like, lets say ifGegurileaves to another team, yall not going to buy t shirts etc anymore from shangai?

[jovial jewel]

anyways, A ONE TRICK DIVE TEAM VS. 0-37

[fiery reef]

I like Diya more than Geguri

[jovial jewel]

ppl will prolly still buy SHD t-shirts

[fiery reef]

Likely ill never buy another shirt anyway. I support 3 teams. NYXL, Houston, and SHD

[jovial jewel]

im prolly gonna tune out for this match

[vagrant niche]

when is Tokyo team? S2 maybe

[fiery reef]

doubtful

Blizzard games just aren't big in Japan really

[jovial jewel]

i doubt japan would get in s2

like there are barely any notable japanese OW players

and above

[vagrant niche]

there's 2 conteders team, 1 is full korean tho

[jovial jewel]

i still doubt it

[fiery reef]

Yeah I mean ... I guess it just depends which rich person makes a new team

[jovial jewel]

maybe s3 if OW becomes more popular in japan somehow

[fiery reef]

since the teams location is literally 0 to do with anything other than a name

[jovial jewel]

Tokyo ______

[fiery reef]

i.e. the London team is a full Korean team, owned by an American. Literally nothing to do with London other than the name slapped on shirts

[vagrant niche]

they been saying they want to use the places for S2

other cities

so we might have some weeks on certain cities

[jovial jewel]

Sapporo Samurai

👏

[balmy wolf]

Dead crowd OMEGALUL

[jovial jewel]

:residentsleeper:

oof

saved

[fiery reef]

東京－おまえわもうしんでいる。

[jovial jewel]

i literally know nobody on uprising except for dream

and he got beaned

👏

[balmy wolf]

Ado in starting lineup

[fiery reef]

They always look sad going on stage 😦

[balmy wolf]

Freefeel noooo

Altering also bad

[jovial jewel]

FREEFEED

[vagrant niche]

Today is the day???

[sand pond]

all of their supports are pretty bad

[fiery reef]

Altering is ok ... its just ... hes mercy ... you can't do much

[balmy wolf]

Altering just keeps going for weird rezes which rarely pay off

[vagrant niche]

guys, i smell it

today is the day

it's going to surprise everybody

[polar pier]

I want to believe in Shanghai Dragons.

[sand pond]

"I want to see these guys smile on the stage"

[vagrant niche]

I saw it on Geguri's eyes

[polar pier]

So much.

[vagrant niche]

i saw some fire

[polar pier]

But fucking Mayhem broke me.

[balmy wolf]

Dive one trick team vs 0-38

[polar pier]

I'll only believe if Shanghai wins one game.

[jovial jewel]

i mean this is a one trick dive team vs. 0-37

🤔

[balmy wolf]

No

0-38

because they gon lose

[jovial jewel]

shoot

[balmy wolf]

i dont shoot lizards

[jovial jewel]

saved

[fiery reef]

They should try and go for a 1 tank 1 healer 1 dps (all Korean) and 1 tank 1 healer 1 dps (all Chinese) I think that would help .. because they'd have a guaranteed person in each role that can speak with their respective language to each role

I think their prob is both supports are Chinese ... so they can't communicate with them as well

[balmy wolf]

They communicate in english too

And the korean players have been learning mandarin

[jovial jewel]

very not good english (engrish), but english

👏

[fiery reef]

Their supports aren't good enough to play with a language barrier

[balmy wolf]

you mean engrish

oof that was racist

sorry

[jovial jewel]

saved

4 DPS BTW

[fiery reef]

What they said is true though. Diya is either a god... or its a 5v6

[balmy wolf]

freefeel gonna die first calling it now

[jovial jewel]

freefeed/freekill

[balmy wolf]

wait fuck

[jovial jewel]

u mean

[polar pier]

Nope.

Aimgod ded.

[sinful heron]

Diya MVP

[sand pond]

@sinful heron in the house

[sinful heron]

Still sad about LDN yesterday

[fiery reef]

I'm conflicted. I like Note. but I want SHD to win.

[jovial jewel]

welp

time to go watch anime

👏

[balmy wolf]

oof

[fiery reef]

@jovial jewel ?? so watch OWL? Same thing

[balmy wolf]

Brig shield on widow LUL

[fiery reef]

SHD is going to find their hidden power this match. They've been feeling that power in their left hand!

[sinful heron]

SHD needs to stablize so bad

[jovial jewel]

@fiery reef tru

guess im stuck here

[vagrant niche]

this is pretty one sided

[polar pier]

Another glorious loss for Shanghai?

[jovial jewel]

double sniper btw 👏

[polar pier]

this looks like my quickplay games.

[sinful heron]

Not enough Genji for mine

[fiery reef]

@polar pier damn. I wish I was as lucky as you

[forest wharf]

Oof

[fiery reef]

my games would have ended 2mins ago

[polar pier]

My team needs to destroy all of my hope but simultaneously waste my time.

[fiery reef]

what kind of scumbag team high-fives after crushing SHD

[marsh pumice]

boston

[fiery reef]

Thats like high-fiving after pushing a paraplegic out of their wheelchair

[vagrant niche]

yall act like shangai are some poor kid

[ruby pendant]

lol, stop watching Dragon games, give too much stress

[polar pier]

♿ Shanghai Dragons fans coming through ♿

[marsh pumice]

man i just got off 4 quickplay ow matches and all loses, man feels bad

[ruby pendant]

Always think there's hope and then it gets destroyed in the last moment

[vagrant niche]

nobody forced them to play, they are doing it out of their own free will

[sinful heron]

Hey @marsh pumice your QM replays are currently being shown in OWL

[polar pier]

I want to believe in Shanghai.

I desperately want to.

[fiery reef]

Thats what you think. Its China ... who nows if they are being forced to play or not.

[polar pier]

But that loss to Florida killed me.

[marsh pumice]

@sinful heron really awesome

[ruby pendant]

@polar pier agree

[reef imp]

God, I'm with you.

[sinful heron]

Diya will snipe this Statue's foot SO HARD

[reef imp]

I can't take it after that.

[ruby pendant]

If they win, they win, but for now I'll take a break

From watching them

[sand pond]

i thought the Seoul match was more depressing

[marsh pumice]

man i hope dragons end up wining this match

[sand pond]

because they played themselves so much

[fiery reef]

its against Boston. I'll be happy if they get 1 win

[marsh pumice]

so they can high five in boston face~

[sinful heron]

Imo, if you can't support a team because they're not winning, you're supporting that team for the wrong reasons

[ruby pendant]

@fiery reef You think that's possible?!

@sinful heron nah, it's how they lose that gets to me

[fiery reef]

Don't believe in SHD. Believe in the me that believes in SHD

[sinful heron]

And that's fine but my point still stands

FUCK WIDOW

UGH

[coral bloom]

😞 god damn it shd

[sinful heron]

Every single fight "But if this Widow lands 2 headshots they lose"

[polar pier]

Did Shanghai really just get full held on Blizzard World?

[jovial jewel]

ye

[vagrant niche]

they never stood a chance there

[polar pier]

We're doomed.

[marsh pumice]

no we are not

[fiery reef]

Alright. I pulled my jersey out. Its time to get serious!

[sinful heron]

That's not fair, they had one fight where they could have won

[jovial jewel]

im gonna go watch ninja, see you guys later

[sinful heron]

They 100% "had a chance" they just executed very poorly

And Widow punished them super hard

[jovial jewel]

damn did i just say i was gonna go watch ninj

[vagrant niche]

@sinful heron what's not fair about it? they straight lost it on their own

[jovial jewel]

a

[vagrant niche]

Boston played well

[sand pond]

they should make a new character who is Widow's dead husband as a zombie and she is unable to shoot him

#metachanging

[vagrant niche]

yall don't give credit to the teams playing against shangai for good plays

[sinful heron]

Exactly my point @vagrant niche they could have won it they messed it up, saying "they never had a chance" implies they were screwed from the outset, it almost takes the blame off of them, imo

They did have a chance, that's the problem with SHD they ALWAYS have a chance and they ALWAYS mess it up

The question, in my mind, is why

[vagrant niche]

cause they suck

it's simple

[fiery reef]

The problem is, they aren't always good plays @vagrant niche Sometimes its just bad plays from SHD ... sorry .. most of the time its just bad plays from SHD

[vagrant niche]

everybody here knows that

[sinful heron]

Yes but again, why do they suck

[jovial jewel]

SHD just in general makes bad plays, not to mention that their support line up is subpar at best

[sinful heron]

Is it the players, is it the coaching staff, is it the pressure of the big stage?

That's what I'm interested

[sand pond]

i think a mix of the 3

[vagrant niche]

i say is all 3

[jovial jewel]

some of that could be in part due to the coaching situation they faced

[fiery reef]

If we are playing American Football and my team fumbles the ball every other play. Its not the other team making good plays.

[marsh pumice]

overwatch is to much teambased and dragons lack some team core strength

[sand pond]

yeah, they've definitely choked in some game 5s

[sinful heron]

Maybe I'm being obtuse but that's what I find interesting about any competition

[marsh pumice]

i mean dragons have really good players that would do wonders on other teams that are well organized

[fiery reef]

I love Note. Only reason I like boston. But man, that nose could put an eye out

[sinful heron]

LOL

You'd see him coming around a corner that's for sure

[fiery reef]

Its big enough it deserves its own jersey

[sinful heron]

Did you hear? He fell over, then fell off of his nose and hurt himself

[fiery reef]

I kind of want to buy a custom Jersey with his number now, but instead of Note, put Nose

[sinful heron]

Brilliant

[fiery reef]

whats the downtime between end of this season and start of next?

[sinful heron]

HERE'S A QUESTION for you guys, if you had to change the players or the coaches of SHD what would you change?

I'm curious about everyone's opinions

[fiery reef]

Honestly, there is 1 change that needs to happen for the entire league

[sinful heron]

I'm also not sure, I imagine a few months

[fiery reef]

They really need to find away to clone Jjonak and put him on every team. Its the onl yway to really make this league more fair

[sinful heron]

LOL

[sand pond]

yeesh, step away to grab a drink of water

boston already caps first point

[sinful heron]

Yeah the casters are very right there, SHD do NOT press when they have the advantage

[sand pond]

i feel like that's a communication + confidence problem

you lose 36 games, you lose some confidence to be aggressive

[fiery reef]

They won 2 matches with Sky on the team I think... just put him back on.

[sand pond]

except not on sombra

plz

[sinful heron]

Jesus christ

[fiery reef]

Can't lose confidence to be aggressive if you've never been aggressive

[vagrant niche]

this is looking GG EZ af

[marsh pumice]

man feels bad, almost like i feel when i play overwatch alone

[vagrant niche]

i guess i was wrong today

sorry Shangai fans for getting your hopes up

[sinful heron]

How long has this game been running

[forest wharf]

Doa: "shanghai cant be counted as a free win anymore"
Proceeds to be a free win

[sinful heron]

I think it's less than 20mins

It's only been 34mins since the broadcast started

And there's a good 10mins of build up

[fiery reef]

Nice Guy Note - doesn't bully

[sinful heron]

SHD lose this push

Calling it now

[polar pier]

Geguri getting knocked off the cliff by a RIPtire.

😭

[fiery reef]

Thats not exactly a call @sinful heron

"Calling it now ... people are breathing oxygen"

[sinful heron]

Good point

[polar pier]

😭 SPAM 😭 THIS 😭 GUY 😭 TO 😭 MOURN 😭 SHANGHAI 😭

[midnight marsh]

Why don't ppl run brig in OWL

[polar pier]

Easily played around.

[fiery reef]

But they do

[sinful heron]

When I started typing it was less predictable

[polar pier]

Pharah makes Brigete look awful.

Depends on the map.

[midnight marsh]

Pharah is awful

[sinful heron]

Pharah is very reliant on a good map

[fiery reef]

Pharah is amazing. Except that Widowmaker is broken as fuck.

[sinful heron]

^^^^^^^^^

[fiery reef]

so can't play pharah while widow exists

[sinful heron]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Repeat this for like 5 more heroes btw

<X> is an AMAZING Hero, but <Widowmaker/Hanzo> exists therefore they cannot be played.

[vagrant niche]

they had a huge shatter

and they weren't able to get it

they so bad

[sinful heron]

Also <X> is a strictly worse Hero than <Widow/Hanzo>

[midnight marsh]

Only pharah

[vagrant niche]

you can play pharah while there's a widow, i have seen it and it has worked on OWL

[midnight marsh]

No other character can't strafe in midair

[vagrant niche]

just not everytime

heck, Mayhem won with a pharah

vs Diya's widow

last fight

[fiery reef]

that was because they also had a widow

widow counters widow

[sinful heron]

Yeah

There are so many Heroes you can only play if you're also playing a Widow to counter the enemy Widow

[midnight marsh]

Hanzo counter widow?

[sinful heron]

LOL

[fiery reef]

Not really no

[vagrant niche]

regardless of that, you said "so can't play pharah while widow exists" not "so can't play pharah while widow exists unless you have a widow of your own"

[fiery reef]

Hes not a hitscan

[sinful heron]

Why would you pick Hanzo to counter Widow when you can take Widow to counter Widow?

[fiery reef]

I'm saying in general, 90% of the time, Pharah is countered by Widow

[sinful heron]

Assuming, ofc, that you're Hanzo is just as good as your Widow

[midnight marsh]

Hanzo is countered by widow?

[sinful heron]

100% @fiery reef

Hanzo is not countered by nor does he counter Widow, therefore you need someone to counter Widow

43mins first half-time

[fiery reef]

Did that nose just high-five people?

[vagrant niche]

that Mercy punch on Freekill's face made me laugh more than it should had

[marsh pumice]

hahhahah it did @fiery reef

[fiery reef]

I mean .. she had it coming

He had to wait 3hrs while she got ready

He was just getting back at her

[marsh pumice]

yeh love this commercials

shame on blizz for all-access pass and the pay wall, would love to see the behind the scenes, i enjoy the people stuff more then the game or as same

[vagrant niche]

don't support them

[marsh pumice]

im not

[vagrant niche]

that pass is a scam

[marsh pumice]

indeed

[fiery reef]

?

how so

[marsh pumice]

you need to pay like 25 bucks or something

[fiery reef]

i havent looked into it

[marsh pumice]

like they do streams and events and content behind the scenes that is behind a pay wall, sad sad stuff blizzard

im not as big blizzard fan i was before this

[vagrant niche]

@marsh pumice it's the same people who charge you so you can see a stream of their convention

[marsh pumice]

that's live

[vagrant niche]

and people buy it like butter

[sinful heron]

I would throw money at my screen if the AAP gave me access to the OWL stream using the game client

[fiery reef]

I know, such a scumbag thing trying to make money off a product that you have to pay to produce

[vagrant niche]

how about they give it to you for free just for your viewership?

Dota2 does it

[sinful heron]

Like Dota(? I think that game has that?)

Ok ty

[vagrant niche]

why Bliz is special that you have to pay money

[sinful heron]

It's not

[fiery reef]

They already give you free view of this

[sinful heron]

I'd pay money for Dota if I was into Dota

o.o

[vagrant niche]

that's why, why throw money so you can see when other companies do it for free

they charge for it cause people like you would buy it

[fiery reef]

Because other companies haven't put in the same level of support and production.

[vagrant niche]

and they can get away with it

[sinful heron]

For me it's because I like to support things I enjoy, and to show pride in the things I enjoy, which is why I by sports shirts (Saracens btw) I understand why people don't like it, but to each their own I guess

[marsh pumice]

@fiery reef so you think they should charge for stream too, since they already give this for free they can charge whatever for the rest? and they get return from sponsors and commercials

[fiery reef]

huh? I'm saying that we already get to watch the games for free.

If you want the extra shit ... pay for it

I don't see the issue

[sinful heron]

^

[fiery reef]

Kids these days want everything for free

/s

[vagrant niche]

well the extra shit is given just for your viewership by other companies, if you are want to pay, go for it. It's not my money

[sinful heron]

Also it's a business, they don't exist to provide you with entertainment, they exist to make money, if people WANT to pay for something and are WILLING to pay for something why SHOULD they make it available for free?

[fiery reef]

Really? Most sports charge to view even the games.

[jovial jewel]

i mean LCS gives you the whole extra stream thing for certain players for free

[marsh pumice]

nah you wrong, i mean shows how greedy blizzard is

[vagrant niche]

i'm giving them viewership, they aren't giving me anything for free

[fiery reef]

NHL, MLB, NFL, and more .. all have special packages you need to buy just to view all the games.

[sinful heron]

To me it's the same (kind of) as saying "This phone is available for 2 cents why should I pay more than 2 cents for the Apple phone"

[vagrant niche]

and they are selling me advertisements

[sinful heron]

OH LOL

[marsh pumice]

they are pushing advertisements to you and make toons of cash

[vagrant niche]

^

[sinful heron]

And they should

It's a business

What do you want

[vagrant niche]

that's why, if you want to pay them extra money so you don't get content that other companies provide just for your viewership, is on you buddy. again, not my money

[marsh pumice]

yes they should but then ask you for money to see the advertisements and some behind the scenes content is just rude

[sinful heron]

I'm not saying "Blizzard are the greatest please take my first born" I'm just saying if you don't want to pay for something don't pay it, and don't act like you're paying for something when you're not

[jovial jewel]

i mean advertisements are a thing for any televised sport; its more of a problem of OWL putting stuff like the super in-depth stream behind a paywall even though other popular and well established e-sports such as LCS do that service for free

[sinful heron]

If your attention is OH-SO VALUABLE spend it elsewhere.

[vagrant niche]

i'm fine with this lol

i don't need to spend nothing elsewhere

[jovial jewel]

i mean opinion of paid access is a personal thing

[marsh pumice]

my attention was valuable for the content and they could push me adv's and all bs with the behind the scenes for free if they were smarter, but i guess they will make some money from those like you and that's cool

[sinful heron]

And that's great for the LCS seriously props to them, but there's nothing wrong with saying "There's a market for this, we should get into that market"

I don't pay for it, I can't justify it right now

And THERE you might be right

Making it free might bring in more money

I 100% agree with that

[jovial jewel]

at the moment i'm pretty meh with the idea since they at least make it every season instead of every stage

[sinful heron]

But saying that "It should be free" is wrong, I apologize if that's not what you were saying

[marsh pumice]

yeh cause some games like fortnite make $286million USD in a single month and blizzard feels like behind the scenes

[sinful heron]

But I'm just trying to make that point clear

[jovial jewel]

if they made it every stage then hell no i'm not gonna pay 30 USD for this service

[fiery reef]

We need 4chan to help us Vote the entire SHD as the Pacific Division all star team kappa

[marsh pumice]

so they try every corner

[sinful heron]

Fair enough if you disagree with it

Hell I'm even with you on that one a little bit

Give the people more, they'll pay you more for it

[marsh pumice]

don't worry i will watch the all-access scenes later for free

[sinful heron]

Or, something like that

[marsh pumice]

you can pay for it now if you want

[fiery reef]

wow ... I think Pacific All star team is just fucked ... all the best players are on Atlantic side lol

[sinful heron]

Anyway, that was a good discussion

I enjoyed that

Back to the game!

[limber umbra]

what game

[marsh pumice]

what i ment is that blizzard didn't had the need to do this, it's not like they aren't making money with this league not to talk about the company, if you know what i mean, personally i like blizzard less then i did before this, just that

[limber umbra]

i see a murder

lol

[vagrant niche]

quick play game

[marsh pumice]

yeh seems like

they seem like 6 random people playing QP

[vagrant niche]

naw, jk, i wish qp was at least like this

[marsh pumice]

true

[vagrant niche]

PTR qp is good tho

[sinful heron]

Winston with 2 leap charges and a slightly longer overall CD, OP?

[vagrant niche]

if you make groups

i loved it

[marsh pumice]

don't have the ptr installed, should do it again

[fiery reef]

Whelp... I got my votes in.

Atlantic Division: Linkzr, SBB, Jjonak, Meko, Note, Rawkus. I'm sure there is some hero overlap among players, but those are the players I'd like to see make it

Pacific Division: Ado, Fleta, Kariv, Gambler, Geguri, Kuki
Probably some overlap here too.

[sinful heron]

I had to put in Pine and Gesture

[fiery reef]

I really hope at least one or two of the SHD make it into the Pacific team .. so we can see how they play with other teammembers

[sinful heron]

"Save the healer, save the world"

[fiery reef]

mostly Geguri and Ado and Fearless (I'd add Diya ... but he'd have no other Chinese players from other teams)

[sinful heron]

I was tempted to put Diya in, but after these last few games I couldn't

[fiery reef]

pretty sure Geguri will make it for sure just because shes a fan favorite. Ado might ... but just depends

[sinful heron]

Geguri is also very good

[marsh pumice]

yeh i love geguri and hope more woman make it to the league

[sinful heron]

Same

[fiery reef]

They should have made 4 teams instead of just Alt vs pac

[limber umbra]

seems like they havent shaken the disappointment from losing to mayhem

[sinful heron]

Disgusting

[limber umbra]

they look so disjointed

[vagrant niche]

SICK

POGGERS

[fiery reef]

Like 2 ALT teams and 2 Pac teams.

[vagrant niche]

that combo

[sinful heron]

WOW

[marsh pumice]

wow he was hiding

[sinful heron]

1 kill

That's

Stop, he's already dead.

[marsh pumice]

wow

1 kill

[limber umbra]

i feel dirty

[sinful heron]

Same

I need a shower after that game

[marsh pumice]

ahhahah

[hallow cipher]

When Pro Players are just like us

[vagrant niche]

"Pro"

[sinful heron]

NOT LIKE ME, NO DOOMFIST

[vagrant niche]

who are the next opponents next week?

[sinful heron]

I love that clip "That push from Seoul was nothing but dirty"

[hallow cipher]

pro players aren' the only one that emote before a win 😛

[limber umbra]

gonna eat a pizza

see you boys next week!

[fiery reef]

I think they vs NYXL coming up

[vagrant niche]

0-40 is going to be real?

[sinful heron]

GLHF!

[vagrant niche]

man

that is going to always hunt them

they might as well rebrand

[sinful heron]

I was thinking that

[fiery reef]

LA glad, and SF shock* @vagrant niche

[sinful heron]

Maybe it's time to let SHD go?

Or maybe stick around

Try to come back

Idk

The comeback story would be some Hollywood level shit

[fiery reef]

They vs 2 low to mid tier teams. its possible but unikely

[sinful heron]

I always confused LA Glad with La Val

I'm about to say "LOW TO MID!?"

And then I'm like "Oh yeah..."

[fiery reef]

well LA Glad is 5th overall standing

[vagrant niche]

yeaaaaah RIP

[fiery reef]

and 2nd for this stage

[marsh pumice]

LA so big that has two LA's

[vagrant niche]

0-40 is actually going to be real

[fiery reef]

but Shock is 9th

[sinful heron]

Is the sound going weird on stream for anyone else?

[marsh pumice]

nope

[vagrant niche]

i was not actually expecting them 0-40

[fiery reef]

no

[vagrant niche]

i thought it was just memes

but when memes become real.....

[fiery reef]

I thought for sure when they got 3 new players in stage 3 they'd be fine.

[sinful heron]

Some people in chat are complaining about it too

[fiery reef]

which they started to win more games ... but barely

[sinful heron]

1-5 OOF

[supple prism]

the sound? no

[marsh pumice]

good for me

[sinful heron]

I'm hearing the pitch shift and it's soft peaking for me

It's nbd

[supple prism]

where you watching?

[sinful heron]

Twitch

[supple prism]

hmm

[sinful heron]

OH I should be watching on that other stream

[marsh pumice]

me too

[sinful heron]

Right?

[supple prism]

im using the twitch desktop app

[marsh pumice]

im on twitch

browser and is working fine

[sinful heron]

Yeah

It was weird, it was like one song

And then a little but I might have been hearing things at that point

[supple prism]

i find that the app works the best

[sinful heron]

Did a hard refresh and it's fine now

Ok it's my internet

BOO

I hate to be toxic, but Altering LVP

[hallow cipher]

oh hey

when do i get the league skins from the all access pass

[vagrant niche]

man, they are playing so bad

[hallow cipher]

the away skins

[vagrant niche]

it's like a constant feed

this is like Stage 1 bad

they have regressed tremendously

[fiery reef]

SHD hasn't been crushed this hard since like Stage 2 or early stage 3. I wonder if the defeat against florida hit them harder than we can see

[hallow cipher]

hmm

[vagrant niche]

like

[sinful heron]

Striker

OK THAT GAMES OVER

[forest wharf]

M N T E

[hallow cipher]

the away skins included with the all access pass aren't in the game yet?

[sinful heron]

Ugh still one more round

Cmon

Next game next game

[marsh pumice]

man...

[hallow cipher]

thats odd

because its mentioned in the page for the all access pass page

but i don't have those away skins

[fiery reef]

Man there has been a deep deep saddess in Freefeels eyes the entire night since the second he walked on stage

[vagrant niche]

they look like they don't care anymore

[sinful heron]

I'd ask Blizzard

[vagrant niche]

they don't care about the game

they are just like, i'm just getting payed

[sinful heron]

They do look very defeated

[hallow cipher]

https://i.imgur.com/uC7hFHD.png

i have these three

https://i.imgur.com/VIhwFwg.png but not these

[sinful heron]

Ask in Overwatch Discussion

[hallow cipher]

yeah but

[sinful heron]

This is the e-sports channel

[hallow cipher]

these are esports skins

for esports teams

so

[sinful heron]

We're not customer service

We don't know

Sorry if that sounds rude

[hallow cipher]

nah its understandable

[sinful heron]

OOF nice Scatter

[hallow cipher]

i just wanted to see if anyone knew anything

[sinful heron]

I don't

BUT

I'm sure if you ask Blizzard on twitter

Or ask in the OW Discussion

You'll get an answer

Or you could open a ticket

[hallow cipher]

ah gotcha

[sinful heron]

😄 Best of luck

Those skins are very cool

The double-dink

Huh, is flick-shotting as Zenn normal?

I do not understand how Tracer pros can track aim during a blink

[marsh pumice]

practice

dva alone

[polar pier]

Just please put me out of my misery already...

[marsh pumice]

yeh ikr

[sinful heron]

NEXT GAME

[marsh pumice]

aimgod play of the omen

[supple prism]

they kinda dont make all-access pass look that worth it

[forest wharf]

4-0 for incoming 0-40 RIIIPPPP

[sinful heron]

I'm not sure any hype package could ressurect that game

If that was my first game watching OWL

I'd be SO out

[tulip jewel]

I can't wait to see it happen

[forest wharf]

Inb4 0-80 next season

[vagrant niche]

that would be too much

i'm expecting them to clean house

for next season

[sinful heron]

Big changes have to happen

[vagrant niche]

it would have to be a whole new team

[sinful heron]

Front and back

[marsh pumice]

yeh dragons are worst even on this meta

[sinful heron]

imo

[vagrant niche]

@marsh pumice this meta? you mean every meta?

[marsh pumice]

yeh true but on this one is even worst

[vagrant niche]

naw, they had better games early this stage

than their s1

stage 1

that was freaking horrible

other than undad

popping off sometims

[forest wharf]

They were just kinda sorta figuring out dive last stage, then brig killed dive

[vagrant niche]

I SEE LOGIX

LETS GO

MY BOI

BIG FELLA

i'm so proud of logix

[marsh pumice]

yeh me too

[vagrant niche]

he clutched like Stage 3

[marsh pumice]

i voted for him

[vagrant niche]

vs Shangai

[marsh pumice]

you think they going to destroy dallas?

[vagrant niche]

this is the thing

these are my two favorite teams

[marsh pumice]

[vagrant niche]

yall heard Effect?

it seems his girl ditched him

cause he chose the Fuel

what a boi

[marsh pumice]

bros before ....

had no idea but that was probably an excuse from her

he will find another and his lost cause she wasn't a gold digger i guess

[worn hornet]

did he just say "those communists"?

[opaque cargo]

shanghai: the better luck next time team

still waiting on "next time" to come around

[vagrant niche]

I don't know who i want to win