Oh please do the flank.
#esports-discussion
ebon flint
YOOO
polar pier
And he got him again!
ebon flint
mano's revenge
polar pier
splat
ebon flint
jjonak pls no
sinful heron
Ugh scatter
ebon flint
hanzo is balanced LUL
final river
so dumb shield bash a charging rein
ebon flint
PLS
sinful heron
Scatter so balanced
polar pier
Yeah looks like NYXL woke up.
So long as they don't do something incredibly retarded.
sinful heron
God I don't miss it even slightly
ebon flint
hurry up before jjonak trans
polar pier
That's bad.
sinful heron
I'd be so mad
polar pier
That's really bad.
marsh pumice
when is new hanzo going league?
ebon flint
NO
polar pier
HOLY SHIT THAT SHATTER
final river
how
sinful heron
BUT NYXL CANNOT LOSE
azure harbor
pallid cargo
LOL
brisk roost
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
opaque cargo
MAP FIVE MY BOIS
sinful heron
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE
ebon flint
NIIIIICE
warped axle
Mano...
polar pier
"I GOT THE MERCY GUYS I GOT THE MERCY"
ebon flint
it's like watching history
frozen crown
FUCK YEA
brisk roost
MY BOYS LOOKING STRONG
wind umbra
if mano would’ve just gotten brig
final river
i thought mano won the fight for them
frozen crown
HOLY SHIT
brisk roost
"WE GOT YOUR MERCY AND JJONAK BOYS"
tawny sigil
the sand bagging is real
ebon flint
LAV thank you
sinful heron
Now now
tawny sigil
nyxl is just sand bagging
polar pier
Yeah.
wind umbra
what do you guys think is going on in nyxl’s headphones
sinful heron
I'd love to see it too
polar pier
Pine: WAIT WAIT GUYS I GOT IT THIS TIME.
five seconds later
Pine: OK I FUCKED IT UP BUT NEXT TIME GOTTA GET IT IN THE HIGHLIGHT REEL.
tawny sigil
"lets make this hype and lets lose on purpose just to make it game 5" thats whats going on
rare sonnet
lol
sinful heron
I don't think they would have lost it on purpose
polar pier
Actually didn't esports gambling get legalized?
sinful heron
But I think they made 2 mistakes basically
rare sonnet
NYXL being good is cool, but the lack of competition is sad
warped axle
Pine looked like that 12 year old you find in ranked who blames his team after he makes really bad plays
polar pier
im kidding btw
rare sonnet
the fact they have to sadbag this hard but still win easily half the time
sinful heron
Oh god there was a guy in here yesterday saying that Florida was throwing because they'd all bet on the other team
He was so mad
It was hilarious
sinful heron
He ended it by saying "JUST TROLLING BTW I BET ON SEOUL LOLOL"
tawny sigil
there is a whole twitter about that... called florida man
polar pier
Like I legit love Mayhem since stage 1.
sinful heron
If at any point in your life you "Just trolling btw" you're doing SO many things wrong
polar pier
They're like that goofy team that knows they're outclassed but are still going in and having fun.
But I certainly wouldn't bet anything on them.
opaque cargo
Florida:
polar pier
Unless their opponents were Shanghai.
opaque cargo
Saya tries really hard to carry
polar pier
Sayaplayer is probably one of my favorite new DPSs.
sinful heron
Logix had some great moments yesterday
polar pier
I really hope he gets picked up by another team.
... That isn't Shanghai plz no.
That would just break his heart.
sinful heron
I never really rated him but he's coming up in my estimations
polar pier
Is NYXL unbeaten in this stage?
brisk roost
Currently yes
whole mulch
Hi guys, I'm logging in after a long break from OW and I see on OWL website they typo'd and said fuel beat london 3-1
brisk roost
Same for VAL
polar pier
wew
whole mulch
That can't be true right
frozen crown
Whats a tiebreaker ? Ilios or Nepal?
brisk roost
Nepal
opaque cargo
mickgitte is OP
frozen crown
Thx
brisk roost
Val and NYXL are currently 5-0 this stage
lucid skiff
frozen crown
Nyxl just isnt trying that much. They have nothing to lose, nothing to win
frozen crown
Yep
polar pier
WEW
frozen crown
Damn
sinful heron
SBB!?
brisk roost
RIP MANO
crimson dagger
monkaclap
final river
omg
brisk roost
WHAT WTF
sinful heron
SEE NINE
polar pier
MANO?!
frozen crown
HOLY SHIT
wind umbra
LOL mano suicided
polar pier
C9
brisk roost
WOW THEY C9
polar pier
Man.
wind umbra
“pharah knocked him off” no he leaped
polar pier
That's tilting all around.
sinful heron
That was the hardest C9 I've seen in a while
frozen crown
Well. They were zoned by the self des
brisk roost
@wind umbra No Agilities booped him, they even showed the feed that Agilties booped Mano
sinful heron
3 down 2 running back
wind umbra
oh
sinful heron
I like from LAV
Taking it slow after the first bad one
After they rushed
That's WP
WOW
I'D BE SO MAD
opaque cargo
yikes that whole hog
polar pier
wewewewewewewewew
sinful heron
TAKE THE POINT
polar pier
He can't he's too low.
whole mulch
LOL
polar pier
oh no
brisk roost
NICE
sinful heron
BOOOOM
frozen crown
Yasss
final river
final round!
polar pier
wewewewewewewewewewewew
opaque cargo
this match is obnoxiously close
frozen crown
The best match in this stage
sinful heron
Very good match so far
brisk roost
Indeed
wind umbra
no rip tire ever survives on nepal what’s happening
brisk roost
I love this match already
sinful heron
It all comes down to this
frozen crown
Wings out
sinful heron
Oh, I'm hearing "We suck"
balmy wolf
Aaaaa
NYXL had better win
vestal berry
DISHONARBLEARU
brisk roost
WIDOW 76
sinful heron
This point is SO difficult to break as well
polar pier
New York?
frozen crown
Wings out!
polar pier
New York???????????
brisk roost
BOTH SUPPORTS DOWN
frozen crown
Yesd
opaque cargo
how the
final river
huge
polar pier
Jesus fuck New York did you just throw out all your brains at Gibraltar?
marsh pumice
soon omg
vestal berry
!standings
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W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 
New York Excelsior 32 3 35 118-33-3
2 
Los Angeles Valiant 23 12 35 89-59-6
3 
London Spitfire 23 13 36 94-61-2
4 
Boston Uprising 22 14 36 85-69-3
5 
Seoul Dynasty 21 15 36 84-68-3
6 
Los Angeles Gladiators 21 15 36 83-67-3
7 
Philadelphia Fusion 21 15 36 84-73-1
8 
Houston Outlaws 19 16 35 83-67-2
9 
San Francisco Shock 16 20 36 70-77-3
10 
Dallas Fuel 10 26 36 49-93-7
11 
Florida Mayhem 6 29 35 38-103-5
12 
Shanghai Dragons 0 36 36 19-126-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
frozen crown
THEY ARE DOING IT
sinful heron
What a bomb
frozen crown
Uhh
brisk roost
Nice
polar pier
I blinked.
brisk roost
Good job
polar pier
How did Valiant lose the point?
brisk roost
Nice hold tho
tawny sigil
and now they're not gonna get it back
brisk roost
SBB got Agilities
balmy wolf
Libero hard carry
frozen crown
Anamo dead
sinful heron
I love that
polar pier
Libero like
sinful heron
The drop and shoot
vestal berry
libero jeeeeeeeeessuyyyyyyy
frozen crown
Dang
vestal berry
seab going tracer
frozen crown
Sbb on tracer. Gg xD
balmy wolf
Finally
sinful heron
NICE
sinful heron
LAST FIGHT
polar pier
oh no
brisk roost
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
sinful heron
LAST FIGHT
polar pier
Are they gonna do it?
sinful heron
IGNROBENRG
polar pier
LMAO
sinful heron
THEY MIGHT DO IT
final river
YEAA
polar pier
no re
sinful heron
GAMMEMEMEMMEMEMEMEME
vestal berry
So close
frozen crown
KURWA TAAAK
azure harbor
whole mulch
OOO
quasi vault
wiwue
brisk roost
THEY BEAT NYXL!!!!
quasi vault
wowie
stray grove
LETS GOOOOO
brisk roost
EL:TJPEYVTUYUGEYOgctrve
tawny sigil
welp
balmy wolf
sfgahsfgajhwetgo iuawyneroiuwayneto7i
clear crane
HOLY HSITTT
balmy wolf
Noooooooooo
sinful heron
OH THAT TASTES SO GOOD
balmy wolf
yfuweytvnuiato9ca6toyatcoiyatdcyiuawt4ricytqwirtc32yitx97682456
marsh pumice
dam that was crazy
pallid cargo
VALIANT WIN
polar pier
Pine is gonna get fucking murdered by the coaching staff.
marsh pumice
yes very nice
little gale
WINGS OUT
frozen crown
Im crying. Its so beautiful
final river
from no map win to match win
balmy wolf
VALIANT YOOOOOOO
rapid bobcat
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
frozen crown
Yell yes
brisk roost
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
polar pier
That fucking Gibraltar showboating just threw away the game.
pallid cargo
2ND IN THE LEAGUE
sinful heron
Yup
frozen crown
Lol. I legitimate cried xD
paper crag
Oh shits
paper crag
What happened in gibraltar?
sinful heron
They fucked around and didn't finish
brisk roost
WINGS OUT
balmy wolf
To be fair, NYXL can afford to fuck around.
opaque cargo
NYXL may be the best team in the league but throwing when up against their closest competitor is a Bad Idea
paper crag
What do you mean they fucked around and didnt finish?
sinful heron
Pine went on crazy flanks
balmy wolf
It's why they're running Anamo instead of Ark full time
hollow current
i mean yall acting like it matters for NY
sinful heron
They kept getting killed before the push started
verbal roost
So close
balmy wolf
Anamo is brilliant
opaque cargo
@paper crag Pine hooked around the back 3 times on gibraltar attack at last point
hollow current
guarantee that nyxl wasnt even close to tryharding
balmy wolf
But they're resting Ark for the playoffs
sinful heron
And then at the end they were like 3m from the end
paper crag
Like they legit had time and opportunity to win but didn’t take it?
opaque cargo
Yes.
sinful heron
And they Valiant pushed to the end and won the map
paper crag
Lol wtf
sinful heron
Taking it to map 5
marsh pumice
@balmy wolf resting ark?
opaque cargo
They got cocky and they paid for it
paper crag
That’s very unlike nyxl
opaque cargo
si
brisk roost
YES
polar pier
Yep.
drowsy fulcrum
haha nice
brisk roost
I love Valiant yo
steady turret
that's great
polar pier
Seeing them eat shit was just kinda deserved.
brisk roost
Blame Pine for Gibraltar lmao
paper crag
Dude Korean overload is becoming a thing
brisk roost
He was screwing around
supple prism
No perfect stage for nyxl
paper crag
Except for SHD
marsh pumice
no more games today isn't it?
paper crag
Granted, it IS better than the all Chinese squad
frozen crown
The playoffs will be intense
brisk roost
Philly, London, Boston and LAV are the only teams so far to defeat NYXL
That's insane
brisk roost
Yep XD!
paper crag
Lol
frozen crown
Yes
paper crag
Yes
balmy wolf
Today is full of surprises
paper crag
Now we just wait for SHD to become the fifth team to beat nyxl
balmy wolf
frozen crown
Valiant 10-0 🤔
Yes please
brisk roost
I don't mind Valiant going 9-1 or 8-2
marsh pumice
yeh wasn't expecting dallas to win but glad for them
marsh pumice
yeh
brisk roost
They already defeated London
Seoul might fall too
With how well their performing recently
marsh pumice
yeh this meta is bringing some teams back
brisk roost
Seoul almost lost to Mayhem bruh
marsh pumice
true
frozen crown
Im going to sleep. Goodnight everyone . It was awesome to watch this game with u all
brisk roost
Goodnight broski
balmy otter
legit if they didn't bench pine, they would have won
marsh pumice
yep i think so too
brisk roost
Yeah cause Pine pops on KOTH maps
final river
has Jake and Arhan played in the same lineup yet?
final river
today might be the day
silk linden
Why on Earth would they not play linkzr
opaque cargo
wonder how long it's going to be until malik tells people to type 7 in the chat if they like sour patch kids
sinful heron
That 4 is so pretty
silk linden
Type TryHard 7
tawny sigil
Reggie fils aime right now "CAN WE COPYRIGHT STRIKE OWL?"
elfin ermine
NYXL threw that match
brisk roost
Why aren't they running Saya anymore?
opaque cargo
injury
brisk roost
Oh
elfin ermine
They could have easily beaten LAV on Gibraltar, they wanted to force a map 5 to see their strats and threw to secure LA'S spot in the playoffs because NY can easily beat them
And LA can knock out a lot of other teams
supple prism
think they can beat anyone
tawny sigil
shocking
candid cedar
reinforce wat u doin
sinful heron
That's brilliant
candid cedar
why does aim god look like hes scared
tawny sigil
those "let blank do blank" signs are the reason i dont bother to look at signs anymore
candid cedar
they're just beating a dead horse now
marsh pumice
go florida go
man the sound on the stage is crazy
people is way to loud, i wonder if the headset is good enough to mute all that background noise
frozen crown
Valiant talked they always hear crowd in Battles of LA
marsh pumice
logix is a pleasure to watch
paper crag
was silkthread flat out kicked from LAV before he went to Glads, or was he traded?
marsh pumice
it's ok they will full hold
tawny sigil
stage 4 is the full hold EXTRAVAGANZA
sinful heron
Linkzr man
balmy wolf
Mcdonalds mayhem lost the first map
Am i the only one with the mcdonalds skin for roadhog?
supple prism
no, i have it
wind umbra
mickgitte
steady turret
did he just say "a team so weak we might see a first win from shanghai"? lmao
hidden osprey
Jakerat 
marsh pumice
omg this hosts...
paper crag
the memester in me would make fun of zebbo for jumping like that
but i know i would have done that too in panic
if i got shot and lost over half of my hp
sinful heron
Jesus Christ
paper crag
oh well, at least that blink in by logix got them a little more of that third tick
could make a difference
/s
/no s
/but realistically s
sinful heron
Junkrat seems so annoying to play against on that map
Idk maybe I'm way off but Junkrat is dumb on Horizon
imo, ofc
clear crane
how come no saya
hidden osprey
Linkzr with the feed
clear crane
haha jake
fast basin
Before Newton discovered gravity in 1687 everyone could fly
paper crag
oh wow manneten actually made it into the mech
paper crag
that manneten survival was huge
sinful heron
Logix greedy headshot
paper crag
LOL
candid cedar
damn
paper crag
florida turning this around
tawny sigil
haven't had c9 in a while
tacit aspen
WHY DO WE RUN FULL DIVE QHEN WE ARE SO TRASH AT IT AND IN THE WORST META YET FOR IT
I don't fucking get it
polar pier
Monte in an ad
tacit aspen
We keep slamming our head into the same damn wall
polar pier
🤔
candid cedar
this ad though
frosty forge
An Albino gorilla
A 40 foot crocodile
And a flying wolf
This is rampage- The Stone
paper crag
who did logix just stick?
sinful heron
Brig man
paper crag
how did she not die?
sinful heron
Just Brig is so good
paper crag
shield?
paper crag
i thought he stuck from the back
paper crag
yeah
sinful heron
I'm not sure
paper crag
i had to check if rawkus used trans but he didn't
coolmatt and muma didn't seem to lose enough hp to have been stuck
i guess the best guess is that he stuck the brig shield
sinful heron
Yeah
paper crag
does sticking a shield even give the stuck message though?
sinful heron
Well something which doesn't die definitely does
paper crag
yeah lol
sinful heron
I honestly thought I was seeing things when I saw it
paper crag
that could have been a huge bomb
paper crag
lol manneten
paper crag
i guess they're getting anxious
sinful heron
Maybe
paper crag
i need to learn that pharah swoop down+missile+punch combo
sinful heron
It's stylish af
tawny sigil
well look at that
marsh pumice
they going to hold now
tawny sigil
OHHH that wasted ult from arhan
marsh pumice
very nice
serene tendon
PHARA
marsh pumice
dam
paper crag
it almost looked like they were going to legit C9 it though lol
tawny sigil
there was no way they had time to get anything to deal with pharah
marsh pumice
i want one of those finalmouse
serene tendon
boy twitch chat really doesnt understand what a c9 is, monkey see monkey do
paper crag
oh man i don't know if 1 minute extra is enough for mayhem to get a big enough advantage
in twitchenese, round ends = C9
i wish i could control winston jumps like a pro
tviq what
tawny sigil
they deserve to lose after this
marsh pumice
omg
serene tendon
lol communication issues maybe
serene tendon
THE OVERTIME PUSH
paper crag
looking pretty bad for McD's
one fight is all they needed lol
but they're not getting it xD
wow
wow lol
serene tendon
oh baby
paper crag
McD can't do this even with 5 minutes
hidden osprey
Florida tilted
paper crag
i feel like they just got really anxious with the overtime wick going
and just got staggered to oblivion
tough holly
I was hoping for a Map 5 and Florida win...
paper crag
that wtf death by tviq started it all imo
like.... either contest the payload before outlaws take it or don't...
i'm sure tviq is an amazing player but that one play by itself was solidly bronze imo
paper crag
lol is it bad that i expected mayhem to get 3 killed by that dva bomb
i forget what happens if both teams push to the end in overtime
30 sec each?
or is it just draw
serene tendon
yys
solar trout
that closer
brisk roost
GG
paper crag
seriously, i feel like mayhem should have won this
they should have given 2 points less than they did
hidden osprey
aye
solar trout
no
native fog
"The Rein is silent, its just Force"
10/10
my mom is waiting for signatures rn so rip
supple prism
what
native fog
what do i do if my mom told Agilities that i love him
opaque cargo
I just figured out what NYXL losing to valiant reminds me of
dash from the incredibles being told to go for a close second
sullen berry
Whew, what a day for Spitfire and XL fans
There will be serious hype between Dallas and Houston who are in the running for stage playoffs
If they can 1-up their opponents in the last week, one of them will make it in
topaz agate
houston is bad
sullen berry
And more power to the fuel if they focus on NYXL and still get the W off valiant and houston
Both are known rivals this inaugural season
Also putting Custa in a spot where he has to play against his former team twice before they make it to the playoffs
👌
warped axle
Don't worry this is Houston's stage
winged hearth
Oof xl lost today, saw this coming lol valiant are looking hot this stage
sullen berry
@warped axle rawkus is gonna pop off
winged hearth
True I'm just sitting there looking at them ruin some teams playoff hopes lmao
sullen berry
so glad their coach will be doing work for the world cup too
it's really really good for Aero
crude seal
even Spitfire lost against them and aren't they like rank 3 in the league
thats just even better
sullen berry
Dallas can emotionally relate with the korean teams
winged hearth
I'm giving spitfire benefit of the doubt, birdring is coming back from missing a whole stage he's rusty ais wrist injury, I expect eqo to be dealing with the s problems
crude seal
yea u got a poit
sullen berry
especially now that spitfire has gone though what Fuel went though over 3 stages in a single day
but effectively no fallabck plan
crude seal
yea true
sullen berry
they HAVE to work with the starting lineup
and substitutions on spitfire is really limited unlike Pine
crude seal
dosent london have a whole different lineup against bad teams
I remember hearing that somewhere
sullen berry
they've dropped most of the players they used
winged hearth
Pine is probably gonna start over SBB anyway this playoffs, tracer isn't gonna be good enough vs brig, and libero plays a better pharah then sbb
Widow and pharah are gonna work much better than forcing SBB on Tracee
sullen berry
it was along the lines of hagopeun/hooreg/woohyal/closer as well as gesture and profit
have you seen sbb still playing tracer in this meta
winged hearth
80% of the time yes
sullen berry
when he isn't, he still plays widow better than the bottom half of the teams widow
winged hearth
He still plays widow, but why would you play the weaker widow
Pine libero seems like a better plan
sullen berry
they literally can't make Janus any more than a aggressive lead in the starting lineup to mess with teams before mano is subbed in
Pine still has plays teams can't wrap their head around
molten remnant
I’m salty
sullen berry
but NYXL knows more playtime = more exposure to his playstyle
molten remnant
Valiant beat Excelsior D=
winged hearth
Plus, I dont think SBB on widow is gonna beat a healthy birdring or a on fire soon
sullen berry
as a mixed roster enthusiast, I am happy with the results of today's matches
plenty of upsets
molten remnant
Yeah
sullen berry
I haven't today's upset with Arhan
winged hearth
Arhan is omega trash lmao
sullen berry
though I think he is going to be the 2nd biggest threat in the Texas matchup
the sinatraa for Outlaws I assume
from the Dragons game, he doesn't integrate as quickly as people wanted for their tracer main
winged hearth
^
sullen berry
it was far from the perfect storm to add him into the roaster roster this late into the stage
outlaws fans doing what fuel did over the entire first half the regular season
winged hearth
Unpopular opinion; if soon can stay hot and play an amazing widow, I dont see valiant losing to nyxl, both teams are evenly matched to me, if they do lose, it'll be a game 5 loss
sullen berry
you don't think it's agilities or custa?
space is definitely up there with fate and kariv
all I get from this team is that they synergize incredibly well
but why that doesn't always translate into a perfect like bostons
I can't put it down to the coaches or the Noah, they're both doing pretty well
sudden coral
How come most teams arent playing tracer in owl even when there isn't a brigette on the enemy team? Is it because of the threat of someone switching to brig or what?
silk linden
P much
Dive is a strategy you gotta commit to, if you know your enemy could hard counter you with a single swap you just try and play something else from the beginning
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torpid charm
I haven't been in here lately
crying because my boys went 0-2 this week and shook af because Dallas was fucking on London
eal with it
torpid charm
I'm dealing with it, I can't hate after they struggled for the longest goddamn time
torpid charm
Aero is great, Fusion Fam misses him but Dallas needed him more tbh
eternal badge
Is the pepe emote racist?
forest raven
acoustic vortex
forest raven
sullen berry
DRAW
forest raven
sullen berry
tight vault
what teams have defeated NYXl
sullen berry
Spitfire in Stage 1, Fusion Stage 2, Uprising on a Stage Sweep and recently Valiant yesterday
tight vault
damn
sullen berry
They are not prepared to lose to another team, unless they are just throwing with some expectation of winning when they sub out Janus
sullen berry
All of them made it to stage playoffs in their respective stages, so....
Gladiators > Shock, as with Dallas > Houston
Shanghai vs Boston
or Seoul vs Boston
when will they get their first W
sullen berry
they have slowly improved, but the shock match can't have helped
I fear for boston's confidence if Shanghai can beat them at this rate
tight vault
Shanghai vs Boston
sullen berry
most of their plays in last 2 weeks have been clutchable
map 5 vs valiant
draw on Horizon against spitfire
it's still terribly inconsistent
sullen berry
They were a torture to watch during stage 2
and I wish it wasn't because they impressed me with the unanticipated upset against Spitfire so early in the league
an example of a cyclical pattern going on for Uprising
if they survive the stage playoffs from here, imagine how they might be able to pop off with mistakes and striker
if they know how to excel and still diversify their strategies
because they're otherwise good as out when they fall back on their traditional dive
tight vault
>
paper crag
Uprising can't rise up if they're always having undefeated seasons
gotta go back to the bottom before they can rise up again lol
ruby pendant
@paper crag lol
tight vault
warped axle
analog carbon
hazy arrow
lol hopefully people dont think Boston will lose to SHD
anyway, NYXL today/yesterday lot probably "on purpose"
thus they dont reveal to LAV anything
cerulean plume
yeah they should be able to go 1-9 this stage 
gusty cipher
boston should lose vs shd
verbal roost
Yes that’s not a fun job to have e he
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swift jungle
K?
modest onyx
did Dallas Fuel actually beat London Spitfire last week?
silk linden
London straight up didn't show up for the first 3 maps
And the 4th was just birdring carrying to a narrow win
I wonder how much they're sandbagging and how much they're struggling
I don't doubt this new Dallas would give them trouble even if they were on peak form though
Dallas vs Valiant is gonna be the hypest game of the stage
balmy wolf
Noice
warped axle
Now that Valiant has beaten NYXL, I kind of want to watch them get destroyed for the next two weeks.
fresh arrow
@fast basin yes
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!schedule
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Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
tight vault
so yall hear about xQc being in Team Canada again f
sullen berry
Not if blizzard fine him first heh
And if you are looking for veteran tank players
You would go for xQc
verbal roost
How are the mayhem doing this stage?
verbal roost
When baddies collide! Shd vs fm be there or be square!
tight vault
they almost beat Seoul
verbal roost
NBA finals are going on too woo
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silk linden
anyone better at math than me, can dallas go 8-2 and still miss playoffs?
meaning, can nyxl, shock and glads trade wins to leave them out
frail hollow
hi
ember jewel
@silk linden 6th place has 21 wins. Dallas has 10. They could've won this whole stage and still be behind.
silk linden
I'm clearly talking stage playoffs
I'm not that bad at math
(I'm actually good at math just lazy)
tight vault
!standings
somber yewBOT
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 New York Excelsior 32 4 36 118-34-3
2 Los Angeles Valiant 24 12 36 90-59-6
3 London Spitfire 23 13 36 94-61-2
4 Boston Uprising 22 14 36 85-69-3
5 Seoul Dynasty 21 15 36 84-68-3
6 Los Angeles Gladiators 21 15 36 83-67-3
7 Philadelphia Fusion 21 15 36 84-73-1
8 Houston Outlaws 20 16 36 86-68-2
9 San Francisco Shock 16 20 36 70-77-3
10 Dallas Fuel 10 26 36 49-93-7
11 Florida Mayhem 6 30 36 39-106-5
12 Shanghai Dragons 0 36 36 19-126-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
tight vault
not a good season for the bottom 3 teams lul
silk linden
you could say that
they're all sad stories in different unique ways
corruption, incompetence and hubris
and some bad luck
pearl stratus
Honestly Florida is the saddest, imo.
Because it's just incompetence for them, nothing else.
tight vault
what about Shanghai lul
pearl stratus
No corruption, no bad management.
They're just not that good compared to other people.
Shanghai has some reasons why their record is like it is.
Florida is just legitimately bad minus basically... Sayaplaya and Logix.
Like even Stage 4 Bad luck continued to happen to Shanghai, they didn't have a translator with their coaching having to leave the league due to massive health issues.
That's part org incompetence and part just bad luck.
Though apparently that coach has had the degenerative spine disease for years, which is just yikes. Thats got to be painful as shit.
torpid charm
thin shale
e
tight vault
Shanghai vs Florida is the match of the century
silk linden
Imagine being florida, you're so down on your luck, you've somehow regressed in the last stages, nothing is working out for you... and then everyone is cheering against you because you're going against shanghai
ruby pendant
Mayhem will probably win
solemn magnet
Is shanghai still winless
thin shale
yush
solemn magnet
Rip
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!standings
somber yewBOT
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1 New York Excelsior 32 4 36 118-34-3
2 Los Angeles Valiant 24 12 36 90-59-6
3 London Spitfire 23 13 36 94-61-2
4 Boston Uprising 22 14 36 85-69-3
5 Seoul Dynasty 21 15 36 84-68-3
6 Los Angeles Gladiators 21 15 36 83-67-3
7 Philadelphia Fusion 21 15 36 84-73-1
8 Houston Outlaws 20 16 36 86-68-2
9 San Francisco Shock 16 20 36 70-77-3
10 Dallas Fuel 10 26 36 49-93-7
11 Florida Mayhem 6 30 36 39-106-5
12 Shanghai Dragons 0 36 36 19-126-2
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
thin shale
no u
silk linden
Zebbo has better facial hair than Sky, therefore he's the better mercy
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freekill
silk linden
Snow and Neko to Shanghai Dragons, Joemeister and Hagopeun to Florida Mayhem
Shanghai Dragons gonna be Diya, 4 Koreans and a black guy
tight vault
can i be apart of Shanghai Dragons
silk linden
can you speak chinese or korean
pearl stratus
Honestly as long as Diya plays like he did last week I literally don't care if they get wins.
His Widow is just so gross when he's on point.
silk linden
Diya and Saya are basically top 500s solo queueing with their silver smurf
actually so was Birdring against Fuel
actually so was all of Spitfire against Fuel, only Birdring was the only one tryharding while the others were like memeing in group chat and reading donations on stream or something
ember jewel
I actually think Mayhem has the worst support duo on the League
and, probably for communication issues, aWesomeGuy wasn't that much of an upgrade over Cwoosh
silk linden
at least they're handsome
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pearl stratus
I feel bad for Altering, kind of whatever for Freefeel. But being the one person on the team who understands all three languages has to be a bit of a brain overload.
Bischu said initially when he was just doing two languages it made his play slower.
Imagine doing three.
silk linden
I understand three languages. It's not that hard
pearl stratus
Yeah but do you often use the three simultaneous with attempts at translation?
silk linden
translating on the fly though, that's hard even for just two
translating is its own skill
ruby pendant
Not sure if Dragons don't have the talent or the team communication or strategy isn't sufficient.
pearl stratus
It's basically the latter, with the new roster.
silk linden
even perfectly bilingual people can't always be good translators
pearl stratus
Freefeel is bad, but he's no worse than like.
Rawkus.
Rawkus had the same "I'm shit, look at my shit positioning" issues during Stages 2 and 3.
tight vault
Freefeel>Seagull
ruby pendant
lol, seem to not like Rawkus a lot!
tight vault
nah he loves Rawkus
pearl stratus
I like Rawkus fine, I do however think he's one of the more overrated Zen's in the league.
silk linden
with all the good zens in the league, he's probably bottom 4 zen mains
actually lemme think if I can indeed name 8 better zens off the top of my head
jjonak, bdosin, unkoe, boombox, sleepy, aimgod
shaz
pearl stratus
Neko, Hagopeun.
silk linden
I haven't seen enough of Kariv or Neko
silk linden
Hago isn't an OWL player anymore basically
pearl stratus
Neko, in my opinion, is better than Aimgod.
silk linden
idk, it's hard to judge when aimgod has started playing during boston's downfall
pearl stratus
Fair, I'm going mostly just based on the fact Neko used to dome people relatively regularly.
silk linden
I wonder if Snow is considered a main healer or a flex healer
I mean at this point he might have grinded D.Va for all we know
inb4 Numlocked, IDDQD and Avast have all grinded D.Va
silk linden
I'm predicting the desk is gonna predict a Shanghai win
ok not Sideshow because he's actually smart
thin shale
i predicted that you would predict the desk predicting shanghai win
silk linden
Crumbz might predict Mayhem if he's with Reinforce just to piss him off
hazy arrow
Does ever Puckett (or Malik) share their predictions? Or is it only the other people at the desk
pearl stratus
They used to, but I think they stick to just the main analysts now,.
silk linden
My Ranking of the OWL talent by intelligence and game knowledge:
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Sideshow
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Monte
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Reinforce
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Doa
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Mr.X
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Uber
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Hexagrams
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Bren
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Semmler
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Crumbz
spaces are where I think there's a clear tier shift
pearl stratus
People I actually want to listen to:
Mr. X
Uber
Anyone else
silk linden
fair
pearl stratus
Monte is knowledgeable but he laughs like a neutered donkey and it ruins his entire casting.
silk linden
totally fair
that's like, a totally separate ranking though
in that ranking I put even semmler and hex above monte
pearl stratus
I'd argue they crossover because you can be as knowledgeable as you want, if no one wants to listen to you your knowledge is worthless.
silk linden
now that's unfair
pearl stratus
It it, but its also how things work. If I tune out monte because I don't like listening to him (which I'll typically drop the volume if he's casting)
His knowledge doesn't really do much of anything.
Because I'm not hearing it anymore.
pearl stratus
It's not even the annoying so much as the out of place. Uber and X, beyond just having a good relationship, are just entertaining.
They have good timing and delivery.
silk linden
I have much more of a hard time listening to Malik, and he's literally only there to talk about simple stuff
pearl stratus
You can tell its two people who judiciously self review their own casting.
silk linden
but at least goldenboy has good timing, good flow, a good rhythm
malik is sleep inducing
it's like he can't even think what to say
it's like he's constantly fumbling
he's more bearable when he's on the desk though
pearl stratus
I like Malik on desk actually.
silk linden
when he's supported by the others, can just interject and use the back and forth
pearl stratus
Because he interacts with people more naturally.
silk linden
yeah
when he's by himself he's so awkward
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UberX
winged cliff
Hi
silk linden
hi, what do you think of overwatch esports
hazy arrow
for Uber fans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EqRCvRsXT8
thin shale
0_o
tardy sage
Ok let's be for real that valiant vs excelsior game was AMAZING
spare shale
ikr
nyxl wasnt trying their hardest though
valiant still played freaking amazing however
sand pond
that mitch video is so hype
echo zinc
anyone know when the finals are?
sand pond
grand finals or stage finals?
grand finals: first match is Friday July 27, second (and 3rd if tiebrekear) are on Saturday July 28
stage finals are sunday june 17
tight vault
yes
tight vault
dang
stuck agate
the uber rap god video made me cackle ngl
silk linden
I just realized that after 3 stages of "the Atlantic division is so much better than the Pacific, it's ridiculous" we're likely gonna have 4 of the top 5 teams in the stage 4 standings from the Pacific side
And none of them are Seoul
onyx shore
fresh arrow
lul whose stream?
fresh turret
NYXL Pine "strat" was fucking hilarious to watch
torpid charm
Seoul never getting to playoffs
warped axle
Seoul never getting to playoffs
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sullen berry
Classic Dallas Fuel start actually works and contributes to them making stage playoffs
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silk linden
our queen only ever speaking hard truths
balmy wolf
Who do you guys think are the tpp 5 players in the world?
Consider dps flex tank and support. Not just the big plays but consistency as well
silk linden
Jjonak, Saebyolbe, Libero/Pine, Ark, Mano/Meko
silk linden
for real though, no amount of theorycrafting could make you come up with a better "ideal six" than the NYXL starting lineup
they aren't flawless, but they are as close as can be
but hopefully pro Overwatch can reach even higher levels of skills and coordination
fast basin
true
there's so much raw talent out there, who knows if people are overlooked or just don't have the equipment to play their best.
When harryhook was beginning in Spain, he had a shit computer and oculdn't play DPS, but his soldier when he got a 300 FPS computer was 👌
silk linden
I think OWL proved that raw talent matters to an extent
almost everyone in OWL is insanely talented
but NYXL are the best team
you won't find a better team even in contenders or ranked
eternal badge
I am best team
balmy wolf
Tbh many pro streamers such as sinatraa cannot compare to saebyeolbes experience and gamesense from many apex seasons and korean tournaments
No matter how good sinatraa may be saebyeolbes communication leadership and mechanic skill make him bette and he bullies sf shock every match they play
silk linden
Everyone will gain experience eventually
Shock in particular are explicitly a long term work in progress
Sinatraa is an investment
Give him a wife and he can become the next SBB in time
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balmy wolf
I still believe apex season korean teams give more challenge
Even tho seoul dynastys old team dominated, spitfire and nyxl roster were famous in korea
Pine is overaggressive and overextends hes too brave but when hes in his best he has by far the best widow plays. But his consistency in game downgrades him
fallow quiver
Is it just me or do I not see London spitfire and Seoul dynasty play much?
balmy wolf
I dont watch them either
London spitfire mostly play dive and their probs 2nd best at it but they struggle to find alternstives and only rely on dive even if it doesnt work
fallow quiver
Hence the Dallas fuel game
balmy wolf
Against a brigitte anti meta dallas fuel, they couldnt do ajything with dive
Yh exactly
fallow quiver
Mickie on Brigitte if I’m right
balmy wolf
Mickie is insane dude
fallow quiver
Yeah
balmy wolf
He never misses his charges even in the most mobile heroes
balmy wolf
Ppl think brigitte instakilling tracers are easy but it needs a lot of skill to catch them and do the correct combos
He hides and waits for the enemy to push
And always saves cooldowns at the right time to kill ulting genjis
fallow quiver
Best Brigitte in league
balmy wolf
By far
Ive always been a big fan of him. Especially as a person the guy never stos smiling and always cheerful even after defeat
fallow quiver
People who I’ve seen play Brigitte like Soon and he’s not bad but mickie is definitely better
balmy wolf
Yh tbh i dont watch much owl and i rlly dont care for brigittes so i barely pay attention to them
fallow quiver
And since the Dallas duel crisis like losing Rascal and XQC, I feel like he’s the guy who tries to keep the team happy even when going through hard times
fallow quiver
Now they’re winning against teams like spitfire and fusion
New coach might’ve been solution
balmy wolf
Ive been a very big xqc fan since season3 before he blew up but im not a fanboy either i just think he didnt deserve the bans
Yh kyky was bad coach it seems. Rascal was fuels best genji and idk why they took him out but its working i guess finally
fallow quiver
I watch all his funny moments videos on his channel :p
balmy wolf
Yh hes rlly great
fallow quiver
And AKM on genji lol
Have u seen his dmg on one of his games
550
He could’ve pelted like 15 Shurikens not counting dashes, deflects, melee, etc
balmy wolf
Especislly before he got famous xqc could literally carry game after game as winston just gping in getting picks using clever ults and positioning,blocking shatters and baiting ultimates
fallow quiver
Mhm
balmy wolf
Yh akm got one ult in almost 4 mins😂 😂 😂
fallow quiver
Lol
balmy wolf
Im not rlly a fan of akm
fallow quiver
Well I only like his soldier
balmy wolf
Yh same
fallow quiver
And pharah I guess
Widow is meh
Remember that one time where he had to play tracer
XDXD
balmy wolf
Seagull is amazing. He used to be known for genji and hanzo streaming but hes an amazing flex helping the team and very sick