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they're approach isn't unusual, remember
look at shanghai, they thought they could use this meta to test their D I V E
Okay whatj ust happened
dallas vs philadelphia
@sullen berry same predictions just that boston gets switched out with philadelphia
dallas returning to their former glory is what happened
taimou playing dps properly with Aero nudging him in the right direction
boston havent been able to adapt to this meta at all
and mickie being mickie really
no boston has been really inconsistent as with stage 2
philadelphia?
Philly looked like they made themselves vulnerable
theyve won all their games so far this stage and then lost to dallas. Thats not inconcistency. That's dallas gitting gud again or philadelphia not preparing enough
edited for clarity @feral wing
thanks
I do see loosely similar problems in boston and philly though
I can't quite put it down what way they are lacking but philly has lost maps to shanghai in the past
anyways philadelphia also beat boston in week 1 of this stage and their map differential is only 2 behind boston so philadelphia have a better shot at making the playoffs
only thing keeping uprising up there is series wins, they don't have much of a chance by map differential
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I highly doubt that philadelphia will drop out of the playoffs
@dry pebble that sort of content doesn't belong here
the only team that can do that is seoul and they have a map differential of +11 and are currently at 19-15 whilst philadelphia are at 21-13
(counting out outlaws as they will most likely not make it no matter what and even if they do they only knock out glads, not philadelphia)¨
there are only 7 teams left that have a realistic shot at making the playoffs
I don't keep up with outlaws, so I am not all that surprised judging by their limited dps pool
I mean, shock CAN make it
I'm trying to make my predictions now
but thats a 0.1% chance
shock cannot drop a map for the best chance to make it in
and that's a very doable margin of success they have with crusty
!standings
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1
New York Excelsior 31 3 34 112-31-3
2
London Spitfire 22 12 34 91-57-1
3
Los Angeles Valiant 22 12 34 84-57-5
4
Boston Uprising 22 12 34 83-64-2
5
Philadelphia Fusion 21 13 34 83-66-1
6
Los Angeles Gladiators 20 14 34 80-63-2
7
Seoul Dynasty 19 15 34 77-66-3
8
Houston Outlaws 18 16 34 80-67-1
9
San Francisco Shock 14 20 34 64-75-3
10
Dallas Fuel 9 25 34 45-89-7
11
Florida Mayhem 6 28 34 36-100-5
12
Shanghai Dragons 0 34 34 19-119-1
they need to win their next 6 games 3-1 or 4-0 so they go 20-20 and then hope that glads, seoul and houston lose all of their games so they can tie with glads and win in map differential
is that realistic?
no
not at all
not going to happen
but statistically that exists for them unlike a particular asian, european and western team
they are investing for s2
I mean for Outlaws they have a much better shot than shock
but its still not a good shot
and i'm sure we are going to see some cuts when the season is over
if glads go 1-5 in their next 6 matches (unlikely) then houston need to go minimum 3-3 to pass them
glads will most likely go 3-3 or 4-2 and then if glads go 3-3 then houston will need to go 6-0 and hope that seoul dont go 4-2 or better
holy schnitzel Im looking forward to seoul vs gladiators
as if gladiators go 3-2 and seoul go 4-1 coming into that match then they will be at a total tie in terms of win/loss
so its likely that that match will decide who moves on to the playoffs
where did everyone go ;-;
Although I'm super happy about Dallas, lets not get too much ahead of ourselves
Its still just 4 matches
Stage play-offs would be amazing, but that is still far, far away
are dallas going up against nyxl this stage?
Truth is, there is just one free spot
I think NYXL, LAV and LAG will take first 3 spots
they already went vs xl
The rest will fight for the 4th spot
and lost
not this stage
Week 3: vs Shock, vs Spitfire
both are interesting
seoul and valiant
00f
well the seoul rematch will be hype if dallas continue to play like this
Good, so we avoid one of the big tree teams
As Spitfire, Seoul and Outlaws are underperforming
on the first day
I want to know from you guys
they played against seoul in the third match of the first day
But it is there
now in stage 4 week 5
if the !tracer bot had a command called !matches would that be useful
!matches dynasty (as an example)
Showing 5 upcoming matches <dynasty.gif>
26 May 2018, 10:00 GMT
SEO vs LON
30 May 2018, 13:00 GMT
SEO vs SHD
2 Jun 2018, 12:00 GMT
FLA vs SEO
7 Jun 2018, 11:00 GMT
SEO vs BOS
9 Jun 2018, 15:00 GMT
PHI vs SEO
That match can pretty much send us to play offs (if we of course win the previous matches)
dallas finally winning against seoul would really show everyone that they're back
after 4 really harsh stages they come back and claim the win they couldnt claim in their first match
the match they lost that sent them spiraling down
fuel in the playoffs this season is an option going forward
they won't be if they don't have much geared against spitfire valiant and XL
!schedule
soon ™
soon ™ indeed
fuel cant make the playoffs this season
its not possible
but they can make the stage playoffs
unlike shanghai dragons winning a match this season
they will win
fuel could be ready to snowball more upsets
soon ™
soooooooon 
they can claim the win against florida
Logix is actually one of the few good FM players
they could have taken out dynasty with the help of Logix
but their carry potential has been lost from a mix of support and tank mixups
but we can all agree
no team has improved more than seoul dynasty
I mean
everyone expected them to be at the top
but look at them now
in 7th place, about to miss out on the playoffs
?
dallas fuel in the preseason
only had to face against 3 of the 11 teams participating
to be completely honest shanghai, shock and gladiators have improved the most
there was no way that was going to be enough of an indicator of how they would wind up in the actual stages
dallas beat houston in preseason
shock are a top 7 team imo (maybe top 6). Gladiators are also top 6 and shanghai may still be the worst in the league but they are nowhere near the level of bad they were when the season started
all of them have improved a ton
valiant has bounced back faster than most teams with their issues
gladiators pre-stage 2 were least likely to pose a threat throughout the season standings
If i were to do power rankings on the top 6 just right now it would have to be
- NYXL
- Philadelphia Fusion
- LA Gladiators
- London Spitfire
- LA Valiant
- SF Shock
I know philly just lost to dallas
and dallas may deserve a spot up there
but I cant tell yet
you never know if its just dumb luck etc. or if theyre actually back
Ill have to wait till next week when they go up against shock and london, two teams Ive also placed in my top 6
to see if theyre really that good
(placing valiant lower because of their close matches with boston and seoul, two teams that are not that great atm)
may sound hypocritical since philly lost to dallas lol
but dallas are a wild card atm
shock vs fuel will be quite overwhelming for both
it's their last chance to stand amongst the top teams for stage playoffs
and we know based off their previous games that boston and seoul arent that good this stage
dallas may be a top tier team for all we know
also yeah
dallas vs shock is a pretty big match, not in terms of series wins etc. but more in terms of how they feel when the season ends
it's potent, but 2 losses this stage will really shut the door and make Hastr0 re-evaluate and make the players play for their spots next year
if dallas go 8-2 then that is great
that means they beat either london or seoul (hoping its seoul just because of the meaning of that match)
going more than half the stage worth of wins will be a great feat in of itself
ok so if dallas go 8-2 this stage
if you think about which teams they had got the upper hand on: outlaws, mayhem...
then they lose to glads and most likely either seoul or london
that's not going off very much
and dont have to play nyxl and beat every other team
If that happens then dallas will end on a high note so I highly doubt players will start leaving left and right then
if dallas win the stage playoffs i will eat
i want to believe
omg guys
shanghai arent at the bottom of the standings this stage
they are number 11 barely beating out florida in terms of map differential
no way, that must be their greatest accomplishment so far
narrowly
im actually really happy to see dallas working well recently

why
wait
dont u want most handsome tank to win
I hope glads go 3-2 coming into their match against seoul
and seoul go 4-1 coming into that match
if that happens then they will be in a tie and the one who wins the match goes to the playoffs
the ultimate question is who will hand shanghai their first win
either florida or they pull a dallas and beat glads or valiant or something
nvm either glads or london or seoul
I swear to god if they pull an upset out of their arse then I will actually cry tears of happiness
for the first time since philly beat london in the stage 2 playoffs
well shanghai are playing seoul next week so we'll see then
the possibility of shanghai going 0-40 is real
it is the most likely outcome
but you never know
florida may hand them a win since florida cant make the playoffs anymore anyways
and they cant really turn this stage into a positive
so florida may quietly throw
why would that be beneficial to florida?
then i don't think they'll do that
and dont want shanghai to go through the depression of going 0-40 in their first season
personally, i wouldn't see it as a nice gesture, even
it'll actually be the worst kind
well shanghai wouldnt find out nor would anyone else so
eh, i say if shanghai has to rely on a team throwing to not get 0-40
we wouldnt know either if they did
they might as well have gone 0-40 anyway
not really
shanghai dragons have improved the most out of anyone and them still going 0-40 after improving that much would be devastating for everyone involved
even the team handing them that loss would feel sorry
if they still go 0-40 even after improving that much
then well
they haven't improved enough
i get that people want shanghai to have a feels good moment
the mental effects of going 0-40 would be enough for most of them to quit esports forever
but OWL shouldn't be about feels good moments
it should be about earning what you worked for
shanghai dont deserve to go 0-40
and theyve earned a win in my book based on how much they have improved
no its not.
it actually is
nope.
the teams and their caliber in the tourney are what sets them as who they are
if shanghai is as what people say
then they WILL NOT go 0-40
they'll show us that they aren't a 0-40 team
''it should be about earning what you worked for''
they've worked this entire season for a win and if they dont get one even with that much hard work most of their players will quit esports forever and no one wants that
they may be a 0-40 team but that doesnt mean they deserve to go 0-40
thats my take on it.
eh
cya.
Dallas deserves to be a 0-40 team
if shanghai leaves because they can't handle being 0-40
as sad as it is
it only means that other teams will take their place
it's up to them if they want it or not
their players were never good enough to play in the owl
ultimately my stand is still the same
its the sad truth
if they're 0-40 they'll go 0-40
but they got picked up anyways
if they aren't 0-40 they won't
and coming into the league they probably had a positive mindset etc. because they finally got to do something really big inside the esports scene. then they go 0-40 and really get it handed and force fed to them that they are not good enough for the owl
no one should go through that
thats why even a 0-40 team doesnt deserve to go 0-40
then do everything in your power to ensure you don't go 0-40
don't let others hand you a rope
make your own
i trust shanghai is capable of taking care of themselves
they are doing everything in their power
if they're doing everything in their power
and they don't get a win
then they're a 0-40 team
you see where i am going with this?
ive heard that a thousand times ''if they arent a 0-40 team then they wont go 0-40''
it's pretty black and white at least as far as i am concerned
either shanghai does it or they won't
then you have 0 clue about what going 0-40 will do to their players
i definitely don't want shanghai to get a win because people want them to have a feel good moment, that's for sure
i want shanghai to get a win
BECAUSE THEY EARNED IT
stop using caps
they earned every bit of it
and they won't let anyone take that away from them
not one bit
i don't want people throwing shade at shanghai winning because florida or some other team who has no hope of making stage or the final playoffs threw them a buoy
and they say
"eh they just threw that shit so shanghai could feel good about it"
They earn the win if they get more points than the enemy
whilst i agree they should earn their win I also believe that no one should go through the mental effects of going 0-40
well, i hope shanghai won't get to go through that too
they should
but reality stinks
i mean
it isn't just OWL
there's contenders, there's open division
there's a lot of stories down there that we've never heard of
many of them don't deserve to just lose there and crash out
but, well that's not how life works
if shanghai go 0-40 then again, most of the players will quit esports
some of them may be future stars
who quit because of this owl experience
Giving a free win is nothing but a massive disrespect
and I dont want that
What the fuck is this even
they Should earn their win but they really need to get one too
Just throw the competitive integrity out of the window LOOOOOOL 4Head
to avoid the mental effects
here we have a classic plat chat entering the conversation
hello there
I'm not the one suggesting the craziest of ideas
eh, this discussion has gone way too long anyway
i think we both got what each other wants to say
it's just ultimately differences
again, my opinion is that shanghai should earn their win as that would ultimately be better Im scared for the players mental health if they go 0-40
Thanks for the welcome btw
Glad to know I left this chat for a good reason a year ago
I thought I was curious so I dropped in but eh
This is what I got
Dallas looked good last night
they did
I don't wanna get my hopes up but
#freeshadowburn
I kinda do as well
It'd be turning a sour season into something sweet
SDB Gengu could work in this meta better than EQO style
mostly because he took shadowburn's spot
even though most people agree that shadowburn is better
it must've been the comms I guess
but when dive was really meta they still played eqo on genji over shadowburn
and up until this point they've ran eqo on pharah over sdb too
Because eqos Genji-style fit the meta and the Fusion better
even though we just got it proven to us again
The Pharah thing was probably to avoid situations where sdb would need to play something uncomfortable
shadowburn is up there with the best pharahs
Very much so
shadowBYURN
I think best Pharahs are Agilities, SDB, Libero and maybe Fleta
I think philadelphia are starting to realize their mistake and dont want shadowburn to leave the team at the end of the saeson
so theyre finally giving him playtime
Well he still isn't nearly flexible enough to play flex dps everywhere
if I was shadowburn then I would want to leave philadelphia and join a different owl team come season 2
He has a meh junkrat, amazing Phara and a good Genji with a style that hasn't worked with the meta so far but should work now
Yeah yeha
It looks like I was talking his Genji down
It's definitely top 3 stuff in the league most of the time
Can Dallas make stage 4 playoffs? Let's think about it.
IMHO they probably still won't be able to beat NYXL, London and LAV, but the others are open matches
they arent playing nyxl
Ok then
this is the time it would be useful to have a
!matches dallas fuel
anyways next week they are playing shock and london
So their remaining matches are Florida, Houston, Valiant, London, Seoul, Shock
lets not get ahead of ourselves
remember how everyone though houston would do amazing this stage because of their first week?
they just got 4-0d by shock
Seoul, Houston, Florida are very much in Dallas' favor at this point though
remember when everyone thought dallas fuel was back at the start of stage 2?
The other three not so much
And you can't make playoffs with 4 losses
after those two amtches
But maybe you can with 3
then we'll know if they are actually back or not
So they gotta manage to beat one of SanFran, lav and London
veex
london has been pretty shaky as of late
You're making an unfair comparison to stage 2 do you realize? That was 1 week where they faced Shanghai. This is already week 2 where they faced Boston and Philly
dallas have won against one actual good team this stage
we dont know if they're truly back or not
You're being unfair
im not
we'll have to wait till next week's matches
to see if dallas are really back or not
well, people ARE understandably skeptical
Im not being unfair at all. there have been several of these cases were some team pulls off an upset and then goes on to go back to their old state of being mediocre at best
dallas has pulled that stuff a lot right at the beginning every stage
houston for example
Next thing they beat London and Seoul, and you say "yeah but those teams are shadows of their former selves"
I wont say that if they beat london and seoul bruv
ok you need to calm down. I dont hate dallas fuel
Against Boston and Philly you are saying that
boston arent good this stage
philly are really good this stage so yeah thats a great upset win for dallas
but Ill have to see more from them if Im going to truly believe that they're back to their old self
Dallas beat Boston because they played well though. It wasn't just Boston underperforming
I mean, Taimou is hitting shots
Veex
honestly, i don't think it's going to take the entirety of next week
if dallas does well against the shock
I'm not saying thay
I just need more proof
that's all i need to think that dallas can beat london
after the case with houston Im skeptical at every mid tier/low tier team pulling an upset
But your past experience is making you too cautious, and not giving them their proper credit they deserve
Because at this point they are objectively a changed team
I mean houston beat london and boston in the first week of stage 4 and everyone went crazy saying that houston are amazing
look at them now
Im not being too cautious
I just need more proof
dallas also got swept by glads this stage
glads are playing out of their minds though
Ill need to see the two matches next week
if they do good in those
then I agree
they're back
but if they get swept then I know that I was right in being cautious
To me it seems like you want specific proof, ignoring what we've seen already which is plenty
its not plenty
they beat shanghai and boston. One mid tier team and the worst team in the league
there's been a lot of ups and downs for many teams involved for the past 3 and a half stages
then they got swept by glads
It is in the sense that we've seen how Dallas play now
And they play well
but Ill need to see more.
apart from dallas in the first 3 stages, florida, shanghai and NYXL
Regardless of opponents
every other team has been hovering in the middle area
going up sometimes, going down sometimes
I mean dallas took tons of top tier teams to map 5 at the end of stage 2 or 3 I think
stage 2
they took nyxl to map 5 and took a map off london
everyone lost their shit
and the week after things went back to the same
despite dallas's incredible performance today
the boston match was a half upset
@silk linden if dallas wins their next 2 matches then Im on board with the hype train
or
not win
but if they do good
if they return to the normal then
well
for me i think their match against the shock might just be good enough to make the call
as long as we get that hanamura level performance we saw today
if they beat shock 4-0 then Im totally on board
3-0 Im half on board
3-1 and Ill need the london match
since shock are worse than philly
I dont agree with that logic
@feral wing SanFran and London are two teams where I said Dallas will have a hard time though.
i mean yeah, team composition and all that
To be fair
just well, something to keep in mind
i know, i know
its an indicator sure
I'm not sure I agree shock are worse than philli
Both those teams are hard to pin down
Over the season, yeah
i think this has been said already but
fusion did have a relatively easy first 3 matches
i mean we didn't know until now but we thought boston was going to be hard for philly
But if you were to face them right now, individually, I'm not sure you could predicted who would give you a harder time
in hindsight it turned out to be easier than we thought because boston just dropped off
and then the next 2 matches for philly are florida and shanghai
I didnt really think boston vs philly would be hard for philly
so enough said
I thought that they would adapt much better to the new meta than boston from the start
when I did my predictions with my friend we both agreed 3-1 to philly. Although a lot of people thought boston would win
eh, i was one of those who didn't think boston would struggle this much in the new meta
they haven't played brigitte even once did they
oh my
next week's matches for philly
OOF
I think next week will prove a lot in terms of where teams are
NYXL vs philly is the first match of next week
!schedule
that will prove a lot in terms of where philly stands
I hope Houston hasn't tilted off of the planet
i feel like their match after that one against NYXL
against glads will be more telling
so next week we will see a lot of teams show us their positions in this meta. Including: Valiant, Gladiators, Philadelphia and Dallas Fuel
overall a lot of questions will be answered
Custa watching Mickie play https://i.imgur.com/NQjgc89.mp4
Week is over
ah fair enough
Houston really needs to bring it back srsly
I highkey almost cried watching that shock match
I'm guessing the bot will eventually pick up there's a new week of matches @vivid solar
!standings
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1
New York Excelsior 31 3 34 112-31-3
2
London Spitfire 22 12 34 91-57-1
3
Los Angeles Valiant 22 12 34 84-57-5
4
Boston Uprising 22 12 34 83-64-2
5
Philadelphia Fusion 21 13 34 83-66-1
6
Los Angeles Gladiators 20 14 34 80-63-2
7
Seoul Dynasty 19 15 34 77-66-3
8
Houston Outlaws 18 16 34 80-67-1
9
San Francisco Shock 14 20 34 64-75-3
10
Dallas Fuel 9 25 34 45-89-7
11
Florida Mayhem 6 28 34 36-100-5
12
Shanghai Dragons 0 34 34 19-119-1
go philly
we make fun of Shanghai but we don't make fun of Florida
Because they at least managed to win a few times
Yeah, very likely we can expect changes during off-season
Maybe in the coach stuff, but more likely they will get rid of some players
can a team quit from the league?
No idea but who would buy a spot in the league for 20mil USD and left after 6 months?
- leave
Dallas is a good team now, yes or no
Yes
need to look at overall stage result
but they are definitely a better team this stage
@tight vault too early to call
will need to see next week's matches before we can truly see if dallas are a good team now or not
so far they got swept by glads, beat one mediocre team 3-0, beat the worst team in the league 3-1 and then one of the best teams 3-1
the only really huge upset win there is over philadelphia
next week dallas are going up against shock and london
oh hey Shanghai could win next week
if they do good there then Im ready to get on the dallas hypetrain
if not then
shanghai are gonna win against seoul
calling it
nah Houston
both
lets go
who's the third best zenyatta in the owl?
me
sleepy? boombox? unkoe?
FreeKill 😉
bdosin

whos the best
me
the second best is obviously kingmykl
Jjonak
I am actually jjonak

cool story bro
big baus Pine
Nice
Dallas have been playing Brigitte 78% of the time, no other team has played more than 26%. Discuss.
also quick question, why don't Philly play Poko anymore? Hotba has more synergy with Sado? Because I don't see him being much better
"Dallas have been playing Brigitte 78% of the time, no other team has played more than 26%. Discuss." that sounds like one of those exercises you do in class 😄
yes, we're testing you today. Say dumb shit and you're banned from this channel
here's the thing: tank players are likely better than dps mains at brigitte. But what most teams do now is commit one of their dps to the brigitte, in case they need to switch back to 2-2-2 later on
Only Dallas can have a tank main play brigitte, because they have a dps that can flex to dva
there are probably other dps mains out there who can flex to dva, maybe they should consider that strat
or even flex to main tank, if your main tank is the one who's good at brigitte, though that's very risky
but who knows, maybe players who can flex between roles are gonna be the future
I do
Wait
Can I embed images here?
Idk but
22.6 JJonak, 18.7 SBB, 15.5 Libero, 7.1 Pine
Oh lord
SHD failed to adapt because they literally couldn't talk to each other due to missing their interpreter
That has got to suck

Dallas Fuel vs Philadelphia Fusion summed up in one frame: https://imgur.com/a/abtyvJO
"Mace to the face!"
watching that actually hurt me

Mickie standing over you with a flail? yes indeed
emotionally and physically
I was already afraid of Mickie because he's so stronk but that man with a flail is something to fear
at least Brig is cute
Just watches Fuel vs Fusion yesterday, Fuelsgoodman
so other than while you have your shield up, is there any reason for a brigitte to stop swinging
To heal with the ability
true, but that's like a split second
i just feel like brigitte is a very m1+w kinda hero too lol
not that it's a bad thing
but just feels that way
Hey
Brig hard counters single individuals
I saw dive work into brigitte, when both tanks jumped her at once
Single D.Va? Dead and gone
Single Genji (with blade heh), obliterated
Single Reinhardt protecting your team without a Zarya bubble at the right time? Bye bye
Dive can work if you run brigitte instead of a tracer or something and just make sure you can shut down' their brig
sup bois
your face
?
!
LF more female gamers like myself wanting to play some OW.
female? that username makes sense now
what
philip = fill up, mike hunt = my cunt
Mickie cosplaying Brigitte for season 2 when 
Kariv and Agilities took Gency too literally apparently
anyone got a top three matches from this week to watch?
because seoul vs spitfire + both fuel matches were pretty good since I've been meaning to enjoy more upset potential games
!standings
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1
New York Excelsior 31 3 34 112-31-3
2
London Spitfire 22 12 34 91-57-1
3
Los Angeles Valiant 22 12 34 84-57-5
4
Boston Uprising 22 12 34 83-64-2
5
Philadelphia Fusion 21 13 34 83-66-1
6
Los Angeles Gladiators 20 14 34 80-63-2
7
Seoul Dynasty 19 15 34 77-66-3
8
Houston Outlaws 18 16 34 80-67-1
9
San Francisco Shock 14 20 34 64-75-3
10
Dallas Fuel 9 25 34 45-89-7
11
Florida Mayhem 6 28 34 36-100-5
12
Shanghai Dragons 0 34 34 19-119-1
No

@hazy arrow if you were wondering, no the stage scores aren't available yet with the bot
just overall standings
munchkin
Gambler
zunba
ryujehong
Wekeed
Miro
KuKi
Fleta
1215 16 15 14
1069 4 19 20
1049 31 19 1
906 8 30 19
896 18 17 9
866 11 20 7
843 11 19 9
790 23 27 19
Bdosin
Nus
Fury
Birdring
Profit
Gesture
1337 23 16 17
1186 1 16 19
1108 25 16 0
1065 50 20 27
1053 41 26 25
970 24 28 17
munchkin/Tracer: 1410 Rating
who is the tracer and what does he do
?
He just played in a way that the bot likes
@sullen berry
@sullen berry, I've sent you a DM with all my commands!
MVP p much means their stats were waged to be the best, I don't know the algorithms behind it though
MVP has multiple definitions
depending on where in the league or world cup it is used
Yeah but I mean in context of the bot
They didn't give mvp officially to munchkin did they?
the rating and the player of the match (sponsored by HP) isn't the same
broadcast will choose one
That's what I'm saying yeahhhh
Also I think D.va ult counter is broken, my guess is that it resets whenever she re-mechs or perhaps when she de-mechs
Or when she respawns
Saudi Arabia was screwed from the OW World cup
How
They overtook Brazil (I think?) for the last spot in the average top 150 SR in the last week of season 9
But apparently it wasn't registered
Fuck
r i p
there's no way they gonna give up brazil for arab saudi
uNKOE
HarryHook
Seagull
Mickie
Taimou
OGe
1396 19 12 18
1319 3 14 16
1267 32 18 6
1181 22 19 16
985 39 26 24
961 17 22 14
ShaDowBurn
HOTBA
Boombox
neptuNo
Carpe
SADO
Eqo
1178 28 15 10
1076 21 12 6
1023 11 21 17
946 2 21 15
867 24 23 17
850 14 28 11
398 8 13 5
Seagull/D.Va: 1466 Rating
Seagull as D.Va on Watchpoint: Gibraltar: 5 Kills
!standings
W L MP MAP W-L-T
1
New York Excelsior 31 3 34 112-31-3
2
London Spitfire 22 12 34 91-57-1
3
Los Angeles Valiant 22 12 34 84-57-5
4
Boston Uprising 22 12 34 83-64-2
5
Philadelphia Fusion 21 13 34 83-66-1
6
Los Angeles Gladiators 20 14 34 80-63-2
7
Seoul Dynasty 19 15 34 77-66-3
8
Houston Outlaws 18 16 34 80-67-1
9
San Francisco Shock 14 20 34 64-75-3
10
Dallas Fuel 9 25 34 45-89-7
11
Florida Mayhem 6 28 34 36-100-5
12
Shanghai Dragons 0 34 34 19-119-1
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Y'all see the news that there's a planned six additional teams for season 2?
can we get a Aussie team
The Sydney Roos?
@dusky tinsel nope, didn't see it. Good, if true.
Ireland can't even get into the OWWC
if NA only gets 2 teams. I'd say the most likely are:
- Toronto
- Seattle
- Washington D.C.
- New York City again
for Asia I'd say the most likely are
- Beijing
- Busan
- Hong Kong
- Seoul again
- Tokyo
Fleta blades
what about Europe
Guys I seriously think Dallas might go 2-0 again this week
Shock is a pushover
Spitfire aren't great, especially not in this meta
If Taimou pops off he can beat Birdring
Shock looks better in this meta but still not amazing
In terms of individual skill the teams look even, but Dallas seems better coordinated and more clutch.
lfg 3700 here, i flex
@civic thorn #lfg-pc-na-ranked
Watchpoint is on
reawtching for the sbb necking his own teammates
Choyhyobin been put aside in the conversation
they're doing well, but HOW well
Only time will tell until the all-Korean teams catch up on brigitte
Not necessarily
I'd take another look at their positioning
I do agree Sinatraa isn't performing well as the team carry
This stage is definitely a godsend for Dallas Fuel 
Super looking very badly, same with Moth
oops sorry, wrong place @balmy wolf
I haven't gotten a chance to watch
closely
Rip my stream went down before halfway
what did I miss after hearing Fissure visited the Spitfire house?
Oh free tactical crouch victory dance
The more teams thing is because of them wanting more euro teams I believe
more euros can't be bad
As long as whichever host country gets the franchise makes it
They can't be worse at management quite like Shanghai
potentially new Euro team is not rushing to get players together for the sake of being the first OW League team
I from Russia!
For Euro they stated : Germany / France / Spain / Sweden
So : Berlin / Paris / Madrid / Stockholm ?
Or maybe esports hubs in these countries like Cologne for germany ?
Finland is getting in tho right?
getting in what? World Cup, yes
getting a team, depends on investors more than players
Yeah the list I gave was the investors that have been contacted by the OWL. The article is very vague tho 😦
[]nterviewer: "There is no fixed schedule?"
Pete Vlastelica: "We are talking to many interest groups in Berlin, but at the same time also in France, Spain and Sweden. []
how to get diamond?
Through gold i guess
stop shitposting
oh that's league of legends

I'm a mod in the Fusion discord now so I'm ready to bring on the hype in there
you didn’t have a problem with that already

@deft valley you right
NYXL is just reking everyone
they're monsters
YUP

Geguri is great
seoul might lose ;-;
nope
MCR? Geguri whyyyy
again, Dragons made her emo
@sullen berry thanks for explanation 😃
any idea what game is xqc playing here https://clips.twitch.tv/CreativeCrackyStorkUnSane ? 😄
some crappy battle royale probably
cheap chinese looks-like-a-mobile-game fortnite
@hazy arrow Chinese products are no longer cheap quality.. look at Shanghai Dra... oh wait
🤣
Look at Undead’s Condoms.. oh wait
Lmfaoo

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Who's the other one
@jagged crater Geguri and Note
I was talking about Note and Bischu, I didn't even peep the Geguri tweet until now
No poko?
no I love Poko with all my heart
Which dva do you not care about
Seagull Mickie Note Bischu Poko and Space
:<
I care about them ALL
they just have to be benched
No mention of meko fury and zunba!
they'd make the best substitutions
zunba I reckon on Lijiang and Numbani at least
fury can replace either fuel tanks because fuel
vs Fragi, Fissure Gamsu Gesture OGE and Super
that would be a stacked team
rip MG
I'm not sure if he's playing D.Va
when he pops off more on roadhog
how about an alt tank lineup: taimou, jehong, roshan, eqo, surefour and zappis
I consider MG as pure an off-tank as there can be
I doubt Poko will be benched forever
The one on illios?
Where hydration was on lucio and shaz on tracer
yeah, i knew it was during fissure's early games
One where hex comments then playing mystery heroes
that's the one 😄
a sign that fissure was going to be their snowball to breaking out of the bottom ladder
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/239275259 watch from the 2h mark
this should prove that what you need in comp play is a solid tank line
either that or gladiators used this as an exhibition match after biggoose popping off as sombra
Fastest King's row match as sombra @1:22:44
I kinda want the heroes born series back
I did like how it featured before the league began
ask away
I don't remember I'm sorry lol
Good question :p
h
I'm ensnared in today's oversight uploaded to youtube
To the point I've irritated my flatmate to the sound of Monte's open thought process
They're all eating at different points in the video
idk i'm not sure that philly will beat nyxl
kariv and shaz will be interesting to compare though
Battle of LA, it's lit

@fresh arrow I miss the early stage plays, I'm rewatching stage 1 fuel v dynasty and gladiators playing mystery heroes on outlaws
only thing I need to tell people about stage 1
Uprising rose against the spitfire
I am really going to enjoy all these matches, despite the infinite disadvantages facing shanghai vs any opponent
Wtf? NYXL will eat philly 3-1 imo
Seoul yea 3-1 to shanghai because Seoul never 4-0 anything lol they don’t “overkill” haha
I'm more inclined to believe NYXL can't afford to lose to fusion using actual strategy they'll save for season & stage playoffs
NYXL doesn't have an incentive other than bragging rights to need this win
they are automatically given a bye into the first week of season playoffs
I've been looking for owl league matches to watch but I can't find any
where have you been looking? I use the overwatch league app
links are in the description for #esports-discussion to the OW League Twitch which is easier to browse at length imo
r/overwatched
I prefer watching on YouTube usually less ADs and easier to browse during the video.. like going 10 seconds backwards to see a funny moment again
Why are the casters for NA from EU
Because they don’t want NA English 😜
Dynasty need to improve, they are losing their chance of making it to the finals. The hard work in the beginning to have a decent spot is going away.
I don't know if it's the players, management, or both but something has to improve for the overall success of the franchise.
Why
@brazen mango lol, what do you mean why?
@brazen mango If you're a fan of Dynasty it matters!! That's enough of a reason!!!
Optic owns the Houston team
because sports league imitation
Blizzard made the teams rebrand for exclusivity
What if Dallas not having to play NYXL this stage is actually a bad thing for them, because NYXL don't care about winning or losing anymore at this point
that's pretty dumb
NYXL is one of the three team going to stage play-off and very likely will lose only to one of the two other teams
Its good for us that we miss them

Anyway, the latest Dallas Fuel's On The Watch gave me hope
Aero is a God
USA are lucky that they can be managed by two excellent coaches
Or by a comedian 😄
Shanghai map win today
Shanghai will pick up 2 maps today I promise
@brazen mango I wouldn't have known about EnVyUs before they rebranded to the Dallas Fuel, but that's the whole point
envy is fuel?
Yes, well thats the organization that owns them. Its just that they rebranded for the OWL
Outlaws under Optic Gaming
I think Mayhem under Misfits
Valiant is Immortals
wtf
Boston Uprising is New England Patriots
Philadelphia Fusion is Comcast
NYXL is the New York Mets I think? Lemme check
yep
Spitfire is Cloud 9
0: 92
Yall just learned about this now, I'm impressed how far these city names have reached out tbh
Misfits were, for lack of better understanding, the best EU players when reinforce was still a player
They knew how to pop off back then
yes, and Chipshajen and Ryujehong have at some point been the best players in overwatch
not every old school name has carried through
right now the best overwatch player in the world is some guy who was doing well on ladder and never played a major tournament before joining OWL
^
He got balls to grind like that and make his reputation from that alone
I look forward to the day someone on this server is quietly contracted into the OW League
pros used to hang in this server a looong time ago
pros?
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can't wait for slower adapting teams to lose to Brig comps this week
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hey these are who i want to win not who I think will win
my top team
wait
who do y’all wanna win grand final playoffs (doesn’t matter who it is, maybe who you wish)
oh shit apparently i got another 100 coin drop, now i just need to wait for the email about it in a month
xddd
It would be funny if Dragons beat Dynasty
lol, they would have to change the entire roster!
would not count on it though, no matter how bad seoul's been playing recently lol
way to stay relevant bren
@forest wharf I would like for Dynasty to improve
However, it seems they are in disarray.
I'm rooting for NYXL Because they're closer to me and they're cool dudes
Huh, SDB is starting today.
It's Wednesday my dudes.
earned his spot back
Guys add me on snap i give free loot box
no thanks dont want dick pics
Why i cant send pic
"psst kids want some loot boxes? snap me"
hard pass
La zobe
Toxic players 
carpe tho
Tracer's body just fucking snapped indentaly
I'd like to fire uhm, a graviton surge at her, and uhhh, indent uhm, my mass into her?
Yeah.
That's my pick up line.
lul they just completely ignored brigitte
Why isn't brigitte haven't an impact on Excelsior?
Thought she was suppose to disrupt Excelsior style of play??!
looks like theyre just staying away from her so she cant do anything
Libero is good at staying alive.
If you're as good as NYXL, you can play around a Brigitte.
Jinxed
Oof SBB
XL is a very good team.
and this is them barely trying because they already won the season pretty much so it doesnt even matter
Can someone explain how u get league tokens from watching the game?
from what it seems you get 1 token per game you watch
1 token per map
man this meta is killing me, i no longer feel the urge to play ow like before
Oh no Boombox
what if i just leave my computer on over night?
and just connect your battletag to twitch
im even playing fornite more, i installed it again and even got the battlepass, so yeh ow is fading away for me
err link
You can leave it overnight
lul
But you have to stay on the screen
You can't lock your desktop
And you can't mute the stream
but you can mute your computer
what if i am typing on discord with twitch unmuted does taht still count?
so it aint the window i am focused on
pretty sure thats fine, i havent had any issues getting coins when i have it open on another monitor
noice
and there is a chance i could get 100 tokens, do you know the likelyhood of that?
I heard there's a guy here who will give you loot boxes if you give him your snapchat handle or number or whatever
its random, dont think theyve said anything about the chance of it
i read that it said random people will get 100 tokens after a map
Yea it's random.
wuts the lol @ruby pendant
Don't know the percent
a big loot box
You might get one, probably not, but you'll still get to watch some sweet Overwatch action.
but ive gotten like 5 100 drops and i only watch like 1/3 of the games
I don't care about cosmetic items in any way so I don't log in to get tokens.
JJonak best sniper in OWL
i love cosmetics but on ow i don't really care to be honest

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