esports-discussion

[spring lintel]

they deserve it for not playing good from the start

[vagrant niche]

I love you

[balmy wolf]

Do you get OWL tokens for draws?

[thorn panther]

you get one for every map

[balmy wolf]

I thought it was for a win

Nvm

[warped axle]

That Point A defense was non existent

NYXL walked in and took the point

[rapid bobcat]

People keep saying xQc is he there?

[opaque cargo]

xQc is a meme

[rapid bobcat]

Right

[echo zinc]

today';s matches are stage 4 right?

[left path]

Yeah I think

[echo zinc]

was brigette used ?

[quasi stump]

a little bit

[echo zinc]

hmm i expected more

[thorn panther]

who is xqc 🤔

[lilac atlas]

Too risky rn. All the teams except DF haven’t been successful in running with Brigitte

[echo zinc]

i see

[lilac atlas]

Even for Mickie, SHD just kept on diving him

When he played Brigitte

[sullen berry]

@lilac atlas soon and bishu on the winning teams of their respective matches did use brigitte

[lilac atlas]

But it wasn’t memorable

And they played it very briefly

[heady idol]

I rewatched the vods, the amount of times fearless (winston) dove on to Brig and started zapping her, at least zap the squishies.

But he jumped straight onto his direct counter

feelsbad

[sullen berry]

I don't take valiant and gladiators out of the picture, despite Soon's success against the dynasty

Malik overexplains defense matrix without being technical about it

[lilac atlas]

Honestly, it felt weird with Malik on the desk

[tawny sigil]

doa is on drug today

[sullen berry]

Malik cannot steal even goldenboy's thunder on the desk

[opaque cargo]

ooh florida brigball time

[vagrant niche]

YO that looks like me

with my Mayhem Brigitta skin

[brisk roost]

No Pine u serious

[opaque cargo]

..wh

okay that's some lame yeet play

[brisk roost]

Let Pine play at least on KOTH maps

[lilac atlas]

Malik: Awkward transitions
GoldenBoy: Funny but cringe
Pucket: Professional and Just keeps the show going

[heady idol]

wow

that coordination

[quasi stump]

nyxl don't need no stinkin' brigitte

[vagrant niche]

OP btw

[quasi stump]

but but

[heady idol]

swap off Brig

[quasi stump]

brigitte was supposed to ruin OWL

[heady idol]

lelel

[vagrant niche]

http://puu.sh/Aoees/9f62989f6e.png

[heady idol]

i love it

[quasi stump]

LOL

HOLY SHIT

[heady idol]

dirty

so freaking dirty

[balmy wolf]

That is

disgusting

[supple shuttle]

I haven't watched OWL in a long time, are Florida decent now?

[minor flame]

Sayaplayer is

but not really

[heady idol]

yeah, they are doing better even though their record doesn't really show it. They are missing their star player right now tho

[supple prism]

they are improving

[sullen berry]

They're only maintaining position as the best of the bottom 3

[supple shuttle]

oof

[quasi stump]

they can't deal with libero

[brisk roost]

Florida has def improved

[sullen berry]

Breaking through outlaws is not easy

[quasi stump]

already switched off brig lol

[sullen berry]

But they did put themselves in a problem spot in the first place

[quasi stump]

florida playing like it's a quick play match

lol

they're doing literally nothing about libero's pharah

[heady idol]

looool the bait

[forest wharf]

jjonak76

[quasi stump]

RIP MANO

ohhh damn

[vagrant niche]

WE STILL IN BOYS

[brisk roost]

YO HOLY CRAP

[sullen berry]

😄

[forest wharf]

inb4 ny swaps to brigitte and fl pulls a shanghai

[sullen berry]

That wasn't even new York choking

They really tried but something got in the way of their stall that time

[brisk roost]

Bruh they're trading kills

This is great

[sullen berry]

Doomfist vs sombra

Who would have expected that outcome

[forest wharf]

why no saya though

[quasi stump]

[vagrant niche]

RIP

[quasi stump]

zebbosai

solo shatter on tviq

haaahaaha

this match is so good

[sullen berry]

That was still nutty to watch

[heady idol]

lmao

[forest wharf]

welp rip

[balmy wolf]

RIP

[sullen berry]

I didn't realize left 4 dead 2 strategies are still relevant

[vagrant niche]

[ruby pendant]

@sullen berry lol

[brisk roost]

What kind of strat is that?

[forest wharf]

at least they didnt get fucked by brigitte

[sullen berry]

Theyre just managing to escape the zombies, by a mix of sheer luck and escape routes

Zebbosai barely made it out if it werent for the progress on the point

I swear he tried to go full battle mercy but knew he was trapped

So didn't need the health pack and just cut corners to actually get out of Mano's FOV

[brisk roost]

MY BOY PINE

[quasi stump]

big boss

[forest wharf]

damn no saya vs pine?

[heady idol]

"it's not fair to judge brig in that last round because they counterpicked with pharah"

"I thought people said she was going to be so good pharah can' teven counter her"

"no one said that"

lying to themelves or trying to gaslight

🤔

PINEBOT IS ANGRY

[shy wind]

wow it's almost like a character has counters, who knew

[vagrant niche]

http://puu.sh/Aoees/9f62989f6e.png

[jaunty tendon]

close one

[solar trout]

pine is scary

[heady idol]

that is so disgusting

[solar trout]

This is what you get for not playing sayaplayer florida

[vagrant niche]

even with brigitta

[brisk roost]

SBB left hanging lol

[vagrant niche]

Tracer still running rampant

[forest wharf]

30-5 oof

[vagrant niche]

who would have thought?

[heady idol]

fastest gibraltar wow

wish we had saya

might've been a tad closer

[forest wharf]

did they say why saya isnt playing

only reason i can think for them not playing him is if hes sick or something

[heady idol]

no idea, I don't think they said

LMAO the Brig just runs at him

[balmy wolf]

Wait

map 4 out of 4

2-0

[quasi stump]

2nd map was a draw

[forest wharf]

second was a draw

[balmy wolf]

did it tie

LUL

so ny daddy xl won

as expected

[forest wharf]

no sayaplayer no win

[balmy wolf]

florida no win anyways

shit team

kek

[heady idol]

gg

[brisk roost]

GG

[quasi stump]

brigitte with winston and dva 🤔

[shy wind]

The brig pick was INT eresting

[vagrant niche]

it's ok, she's so OP you can run her with anything and still win cause she's broken stupid and easy to play as

[forest wharf]

hey at least they can play brigitte

[quasi stump]

except they didn't win?

[brisk roost]

Come to think of it, Pine didn't even take off his hat lol

[vagrant niche]

sorry

[brisk roost]

So he was held back

[vagrant niche]

i'm being sarcastic

[quasi stump]

oh, right

don't mind me

[shy wind]

Yeah I didn't say anything cause I thought it was sarcasm

lmao

[frosty anvil]

iM bEInG SaRCaSTiC

[fresh arrow]

late but

https://twitter.com/Beezy1515/status/997300900229144577

Fusion Beezy (@Beezy1515)

Best part of the @carpe_ow play on Lijiang was his teammates telling him to reset and Carpe just yelling “winnable” until he had murdered everyone on Boston. Scary kid

Twitter

[tawny sigil]

they were like... CUT DOA OFF

[fresh arrow]

PMA Carpe

[heady idol]

lmao

"Pine's like a cat, ends up in weird places and brings you dead shit"

[frosty anvil]

i'm just sad i missed boston because i love watching snillo

gotta wait for the rerun i guess

[pearl stratus]

If it makes you feel better.

He didn't play.

And probably won't for most of this stage at all.

Because he only plays Tracer.

[frosty anvil]

whaaat damn. ok, well that does make me feel better

[quasi stump]

speaking of that carpe play https://clips.twitch.tv/BoxyPoorLapwingOneHand

[shy wind]

Now time for the real match

POGGERS

[pearl stratus]

Tracer only is a liability right now because if the enemy goes Brig you don't have a swap to counter.

Even Striker was playing Junk and Pharah as well.

[ruby pendant]

wow

[solar trout]

They have a great translater

[pearl stratus]

Jonak with honest shade.

"You didn't play Saya. You all fucked up."

[frosty anvil]

those carpe plays haha nice

trigger blood curdling screams

and you're absolutely right endo. not a good time to be a one trick pony in OWL

[languid wigeon]

nowhere near as much Brig as I thought there would be

[pearl stratus]

It's never been, but Tracer you could kind of get away with it on.

@languid wigeon About what I expected, they play her where she's good and punish her where she's bad.

I wish more of the ladder could do that.

[sullen berry]

I'm actually disappointed Kalios isn't pulling series matches

[languid wigeon]

agreed

[pearl stratus]

Also it makes the pro statements that the nerfs were too much make a bit more sense.

[sullen berry]

Just found out the outcome of uprising v fusion

[frosty anvil]

i still feel like most of them aren't playing her very well when they do play her. Like the last match, she had her heal up and widow had just spawned, and the heal was wasted on the tank instead of giving widow armor

but that's just, like my opinion, man.

[pearl stratus]

Widows in OWL really only die to other Widows in most situations.

And the bonus armor from her E won't save her.

Thats my view on it, at least.

[sullen berry]

Light green VS light blue

[ruby pendant]

Analyst Endoken!

[sullen berry]

This will be,

A light match

[frosty anvil]

fair enough. Maybe that was their logic, too.

[sullen berry]

[shy wind]

SCATTA

[sullen berry]

Her Rally is used much like a situational speed boost

[pearl stratus]

Either way though, after watching these last two days I'm really glad they're a patch behind.

[sullen berry]

But the amount of armor while better than the incoming nerf patch for it

Just makes poor hp management more obvious on certain players

[shy wind]

Hopefully by the time we get to the final playoffs hanzo should be balanced

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, but it also highlights the huge difference between ladder and really good players.

[shy wind]

and maybe they tune brig a bit

[pearl stratus]

They already did tune her.

[ruby pendant]

Hanzo needs a buff

[pearl stratus]

Judging by her on the PTR right now they probably overtuned her.

[vagrant niche]

is it me or are using too much the JEFF song?

[ruby pendant]

Same with Sym and Doom

[pearl stratus]

As I watch OWL at least.

Because right now she's not must pick.

Then they nerfed her ult and shield bash.

[shy wind]

Uh, are we talking about the same hanzo?

[ruby pendant]

Why have characters people rarely use

[pearl stratus]

It's going to drop it even more.

[shy wind]

and sym is getting reworked?

[ruby pendant]

@shy wind yes

[pearl stratus]

Syms rework won't be in the playoffs.

[shy wind]

Yeah ik that

[pearl stratus]

My guess is thats still like... 4-5 weeks out from PTR.

[shy wind]

but i'm confused why he was asking for hanzo buff

[pearl stratus]

Oh he does that.

[frosty anvil]

what did they do to the shield bash? I remember hearing about the ult but not the bash

[pearl stratus]

You just ignore him for 92.3% of his statements.

[shy wind]

got it

[pearl stratus]

It just got a 1 second cooldown increase.

[sullen berry]

@ruby pendant reworks aren't necessarily buff

[frosty anvil]

ah, that's fine

[vagrant niche]

they nerfed a balanced hero because of outcry of Plat Chat

[pearl stratus]

She wasn't super balanced, the shield cone did need to be reduced.

Whether pro or ladder.

[vagrant niche]

that was a fix

not a nerf

[ruby pendant]

@sullen berry True, but for Sym i think it is

[vagrant niche]

i aint disagreeing with that

[ruby pendant]

There's a reason she's rarely used

[vagrant niche]

i'm talking about

nerf to Shield bash

[sullen berry]

The impact cone for shield was deserved

[vagrant niche]

and ult

[pearl stratus]

I don't think the shield bash is the be all end all, I don't even disagree with it a ton. But I'd have rather seen them nerf the ult in a different way (mostly charge time)

[ruby pendant]

@shy wind The Hanzo statement was a joke, the Sym and Doom comment was serious

They are rarely used

[pearl stratus]

Doom is niche, no amount of fixes will really change that.

It's like Mei.

[shy wind]

shield bash was a bit needed. Yeah the ult change I didn't like at all

[pearl stratus]

For pros his niche is more point stall, which sucks for ladder players.

But its still his niche.

And he does it really well sometimes.

[shy wind]

Plus a good doom can dominate a game, but he can be countered

[ruby pendant]

@pearl stratus even for stall, Doom rarely works!

[sullen berry]

Logix had a good showing of that in a long while this season

[ruby pendant]

How many Overwatch League games has Doom turned things around?

[sullen berry]

It's like clutch bastion

[pearl stratus]

He rarely works for trickle stall, but for coordinated stall with 1-2 people he's worked a bunch.

[sullen berry]

When profit had to drown fuel in bullets to not lose a crucial team fight

[pearl stratus]

Uh. Hydration twice, Fleta once, Sinatraa once and there were a few more.

Those are just the ones that I remember top of my head.

[vagrant niche]

Logix today

[pearl stratus]

Sinatraas Ilios Doomfist stall was insane.

[vagrant niche]

he put work

with Doomfist

I do remember the Sinatraa one on light house

it was good

[pearl stratus]

I think we'll potentially see him pop up here or there against some of the Brig comps now and again.

[sullen berry]

Hydration is unique in that he can play throughout one side of a map out of willingness

[ruby pendant]

@vagrant niche I'll have to rewatch, missed that part.

@pearl stratus Hopefully

[pearl stratus]

To me Doomfist is like Moira.

He's more for Ladder than pros.

Moira has maintained the lowest pick rate for supports through all of OWL.

Like noticeably.

But on ladder she does insanely well.

I really think we're about to see Jakegitte.

Projectile seems to be the general flex to Brigitte across the board so far.

[sweet canopy]

How come?

[ruby pendant]

@pearl stratus You think Outlaws will beat London again?

[pearl stratus]

Because you want to keep your Widow, primarily.

I think this is going to be really close, both teams play the slower metas much better than the aggro metas.

[frosty anvil]

that's the shit eating grin of a brigitte player

[sweet canopy]

So the DPS flexes to briggy

[pearl stratus]

So this is a shift that favors both of them so heavily.

[shy wind]

oh

birdring back

ay

[waxen rampart]

wait birdring's back?

[pearl stratus]

@sweet canopy Or a DPS flexes to Off-tank, and the off-tank flexes to Brigitte (which shock did)

[waxen rampart]

thought he was still out

[pearl stratus]

He got back at the end of Stage 3.

He still wasn't 100%

So he only played half the game, then they brought Hooreg back in

[sweet canopy]

So the general comp is 1-2-3?

[pearl stratus]

Yeah.

For Brig maps.

Not all maps are brig maps.

[sweet canopy]

Which are?

[pearl stratus]

It's pretty split between Brig/Dive/RandomOrissaComp

[frosty anvil]

mostly flat maps, close quarters

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, maps lacking in a lot of exploitable verticality. But even those are back and forth

We saw Brigitte in the first game for Boston, then we didn't see it on others.

So she's both been on, and not seen, on Kings Row.

[sweet canopy]

Kings row is one like that?

[sullen berry]

Linkzr upgrading his hero pool

He's gonna do it anyway

[pearl stratus]

Nah they'll double snipe A.

[sullen berry]

For the meme

[pearl stratus]

That's a houston thing

Or Jake Genji. Wtf.

They do so well with double sniper, thats just awkward.

[sullen berry]

Jake genji since last year's world cup hasn't got what it takes to compete, pressure might be because they know Jake will pull a junkrat this series

[pearl stratus]

There we go.

[frosty anvil]

RIP (tire)

[waxen rampart]

damn linkzr

[sweet canopy]

widOP

[pearl stratus]

So a double sniper dive to A.

[sullen berry]

Linkzr not going to let Jake's hanzo take any kills

[waxen rampart]

scatter REEE

[pearl stratus]

Then a bulk for B.

Makes sense.

[sullen berry]

So he's trying to gets the picks before he can even drawn an arrow

[pearl stratus]

It's got to be so weird to play Hanzo for them for the people who were grinding ladder.

That 30y/s difference has to be huge

Linkzr is 4/4 on Riptires.

[shy wind]

how tf does linkzr keep killing the riptires

[pearl stratus]

He's a pro sniper.

[tawny sigil]

JAKE... JAKE HAS A DRAGON STRIKE

[pearl stratus]

The record is 6.

[sullen berry]

Jake's precision was almost there

[pearl stratus]

From Surefour on Junkertown.

[tawny sigil]

omg gay

[serene tendon]

JAKEZO

[frosty anvil]

moonlights as a junkrat, knows where all the good rollouts are

[sullen berry]

It's 3pm. Hanzo is in your Row. He has a dragonstrike.

[pearl stratus]

It's why I always laugh when people are like "The speed nerf on Tire isn't enough"

And I feel bad.

Because my response is always "Have you tried not being shit?"

[sweet canopy]

@sullen berry Trick question. It's high noon somewhere.

[waxen rampart]

whenever they do cams of outlaws its just muma stroking someone and jake talking very passionately

[sullen berry]

What part of that was a question smh

[pearl stratus]

I'm mediocre as shit and I can still take out ~3/4 of the tires.

[serene tendon]

rawkus pls

[pearl stratus]

Rawkus is just US Freefeel.

Just throwing it out there.

[sweet canopy]

Why do they spray? Style?

[pearl stratus]

General thought its an APM thing

To keep their fingers moving

Same with a lot of the hopping, etc

[sullen berry]

Some just have it binded to when they melee

[waxen rampart]

spree wyd

[sullen berry]

Spitfire in such a bizaare position

[pearl stratus]

Bani has gotten so much better at saving Rawkus bad positioning/focus.

[sullen berry]

At this rate they could just bait giving it to them and just capture in overtime

[pearl stratus]

Lmao the dragons directly at each other

[frosty anvil]

LIMB FROM LIMB

[sullen berry]

That was really good time to pop off

[heady idol]

wjooo houston

also dragons touched

you never let dragons touch

[pearl stratus]

So it looks like Londons major issue this stage is going to be their Zarya.

[shy wind]

I'm so glad scatter is gone

lmao

[pearl stratus]

If my count was right

[sullen berry]

The beams conmected

[pearl stratus]

Spree got 4 Gravs on Defense.

In a small amount of time.

4 or 5.

[frosty anvil]

DO NOT CROSS TH BEAMS

[heady idol]

Spree is like

"Have grav, use grav"

[pearl stratus]

He maintains such high charge he can somewhat get away with it

His Grav generation speed is silly.

[sullen berry]

They syncing of their ult charges have seriously been on point for Jake and spree

[shy wind]

They didn't get a single dragon grav though

[sullen berry]

rambles optimistically about their ult management

[pearl stratus]

It was better not to.

Jake used it to zone out the hotel for London a lot.

[sullen berry]

Waste of resources

[pearl stratus]

Which kept them focused on pushing one side of the map

Not two.

[sullen berry]

You've seen zen nullify two ultimates right

[pearl stratus]

They have a Mercy.

You can kill through Trans with a boosted Hanzo.

[shy wind]

^

[sullen berry]

Bani underrated top mercy

[pearl stratus]

But in this situation I think it was better used to cluster London to the left side.

And remove the hotel from them.

Point B onward is where you combo since its a lot more straightforward.

[sullen berry]

Not one ultimate kill from gesture after hammer down

[pearl stratus]

I think he only actually landed one of them

And it was on Muma alone.

And linkzr shot him in the face.

I know on their push Muma baited out and blocked his shatter.

All I know about this stage 100% right now.

Is Diya got his Widow groove back.

I don't even care if Shanghai keep losing.

Watching him dink the shit out of everyone is worth it

[sullen berry]

I'm thinking the same with birdring, he's following taimou's footsteps

Flex dps with good aim

[pearl stratus]

Diya lowkey is probably a top 5 sniper in the league, he just didn't get to play it for half the season because it was one of Undeads only two heroes.

[tawny sigil]

if you buy a team jersey are the sponsor shit still on there?

[sullen berry]

Lol don't think so

[raven badger]

Well fuck my discord glitched and i wasnt seeing any msgs on my computer

[pearl stratus]

It shouldn't be, because you're not paid to be a sponsor for them.

[sweet canopy]

For other sports they tend to include the sponsors as a part of the jersey

[sullen berry]

You could get a ash VS evil dead sponsored valiant team jersey but I think that was completely optional

[waxen rampart]

that was fucking smooth birdring

[pearl stratus]

Worst case scenario just get a custom one.

[sullen berry]

Looking sharp jake

gets blasted by bdosin

[shy wind]

didn't get tire that time dinkzr

[sullen berry]

Linkzr doesn't usually click heads

[pearl stratus]

Lunar Horizon is one of the better Junk ult maps, lots of shit in the way and short pathing to explosion.

[sullen berry]

But when he don't, it's for the tires instead

[pearl stratus]

King's Row and stuff you have long tire paths .

[serene tendon]

damn that was a clean bomb

[sullen berry]

Profit made mistakes

[pearl stratus]

I don't feel that was 100% on Profit.

The shift in focus onto her shield was SO instantaneous.

That shield lasted like.. two seconds?

[frosty anvil]

yeap

less, probably

[sullen berry]

Overkill on that shield focus fire

Enough to wipe a rein shield

Considering the threat she can be on defense on horizon

[pearl stratus]

I think you can just really feel that Birdring is still out of it a bit.

Whereas Linkzr is on an upswing.

[waxen rampart]

linkzr taking a quick nap

[pearl stratus]

I want to see Diya v. Linkzr.

Because Diya so far has gotten the better of Pine and Taimou.

I want to see it grow.

[waxen rampart]

shanghai has good tanks and good dps

[pearl stratus]

Today they had good support too.

[frosty anvil]

whew nice

[pearl stratus]

They just didn't have good comps.

Or yesterday.

[waxen rampart]

missed the game

[pearl stratus]

Altering and Freefeel really didn't make a lot of mistakes yesterday.

[waxen rampart]

that's good to hear though

[pearl stratus]

They just didn't change their comps.

So they got rolled.

[waxen rampart]

they were still playing full dive?

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, unsure if it was because they weren't practiced with Brig or what.

[waxen rampart]

hm.

not looking good then

[pearl stratus]

We'll see how it goes in the next weeks.

[frosty anvil]

yeah against a brigitte comp too, so instead of changing to counter they just stuck to their guns and let themselves lose. it was sad.

[pearl stratus]

I think it has to do with the fact Ado and Daimin have to figure her out.

More on Ado.

[waxen rampart]

ado's probably gonna be a lot weaker this stage

[pearl stratus]

I think he'll be fine if he just grinds out Brig and Pharah.

His Junkrat is decent enough from what we saw.

[waxen rampart]

probably. He was killer on genji though

[pearl stratus]

But yeah his main two picks are shut down sometimes.

They could also have Xushu grind Brig.

Since he's probably their best Pharah at the moment.

I didn't realize Altering was so pivotal.

Altering is apparently like half a bischu.

[waxen rampart]

damn linkzr

[pearl stratus]

I guess Linkzr got to see his girlfriend over break.

[waxen rampart]

jesus.

[pearl stratus]

Cause he's reinvigorated.

[frosty anvil]

he's sure hitting his marks

[serene tendon]

OUTLAWS ACTIVATED

[pearl stratus]

It's a perfect meta for them

[sweet canopy]

Is Linkzr Tibetan?

[pearl stratus]

They kind of suck at dive.

[frosty anvil]

👉 👌

[sweet canopy]

Because he is ON FIRE

[pearl stratus]

He's Finnish, or one of those.

[waxen rampart]

[sullen berry]

@pearl stratus they followed the traditional playstyle of APEX and actually implementing it as intended

Shanghai convincingly got into diving as a whole team end of last stage

[vast geode]

What’s happening to London?

[pearl stratus]

Nothing in general. Houston is just really enabled by this meta and map pool.

Also Houston notoriously fucks up Londons flow.

Especially Jakerat.

He throws them off pace so much.

Side note.

The new Tracer skin is ugly af.

New soldier is okay though.

Hadn't actually paid attention to them

lmao

Those stats

[frosty anvil]

woah yeah those skins are hideous. I really hope i don't get them

[ruby pendant]

wow

2-0?!

Thought London would do better at least

[frosty anvil]

NEVERRRR TOTAL HOUSTON DOMINATION is ORDERED and DELIVERED

• /s

[pearl stratus]

We'll probably see Hooreg in the second half and hopefully he plays better than Birdring

[tawny sigil]

all access is such a nitch thing

i'd be surprise if 0.01% of the people got it

[waxen rampart]

niche? and yeah

i don't know anyone who has it

[tawny sigil]

its good for analist... that's about it

[waxen rampart]

analyst..

analist

oh my lord

analist yes

[tawny sigil]

whats wrong with anal?

[frosty anvil]

dunno, if i had a bunch of disposable income i'd probably get it

[waxen rampart]

i mean

yea

[pearl stratus]

Also if you like the skins they're releasing for it.

Altogether its what.. around $1 per skin all said and done?

Since its $20 if you have Amazon Prime

[tawny sigil]

yeah cause they realized nobody was getting it so they made skins for it

JAKE... JAKE HAS A ROCKET

launcher

[pearl stratus]

Thats 5 Enviros for Jake

Wtf.

[paper crag]

huh i just tuned in

[spring lintel]

wtf

[frosty anvil]

mmm rocket through the little window mmm

[paper crag]

outlaws leading huh

[spring lintel]

is jake on drugs?

he

[frosty anvil]

annals

[tawny sigil]

jake is tired of being jakerat

[paper crag]

is outlaws doing well or is london sucking

if you had to choose one

[spring lintel]

how is he mechanically this good all of a sudden?

[frosty anvil]

hacks

[spring lintel]

when everyone was jakluling, jake studied the game

[paper crag]

SHRIIIIIERRRRRRRRRRREIIIIIIIIIEKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[tawny sigil]

lol that girl

[pearl stratus]

That was entirely Spree.

He shielded Jake at the start so Birdring couldn't rocket him either way.

[fiery reef]

Fucking Christ ... this is what I wanted to see. This is like Stage 1 outlaws .. I really hope they keep this up. Stage 1 outlaws so much fun to watch.

[waxen rampart]

5k

christ

[frosty anvil]

lol it's entirely possible the shrieking is throwing london off their game.

[spring lintel]

spree and jalulke

[serene tendon]

New Jake is my shit

[paper crag]

is spree a new sign on from stage 3 or something

i feel like i haven't seen him much

[spring lintel]

nah

[paper crag]

has he always been there?

[spring lintel]

cause he isnt a better dva

[tawny sigil]

someone sabotaged birdring wrist... and it worked

[spring lintel]

he is a god zarya

zarya wasnt meta

[heady idol]

lmao

[paper crag]

so has he always been there or no lol

[heady idol]

the "Jake is thrilled because he is skilled" spam is hilarious

[spring lintel]

yes

[paper crag]

okay

[tawny sigil]

jake is not playing junkrat... but london is.... wtf is going on

[spring lintel]

u said is he a new signing and i said no

[pearl stratus]

Spree was only a Kings Row player previously.

There weren't other Zarya maps overall.

At least not ones where you'd bring in an entire specialist.

[paper crag]

i also asked if he's always been there

anyway

[spring lintel]

spree is nuts

[vagrant niche]

seriously, they need to shut up these people

the loud screaming

[spring lintel]

you said : is spree a new sign on from stage 3 or something
i feel like i haven't seen him much

[vagrant niche]

is so annoying i can't hear anything

[paper crag]

so now that tracer isn't as much of a must-pick, do you think effect's chances of joining a different team is reduced?

[spring lintel]

i said no

[paper crag]

two lines down i asked has he always been there

[spring lintel]

at least on my screen

[paper crag]

jesus just let it go lol

[spring lintel]

well i already answered

[pearl stratus]

Jake had a decent Pharah in World Cup, glad to see he grinded it out again

[feral wing]

"AHHHHHHHHH"

[frosty anvil]

my individually mic comment was a joke but i guarantee they mic the crowd, so they could turn it down

[tawny sigil]

PEEKABOO

[feral wing]

That same girl was in the world cup too. She screamed 24/7

[heady idol]

gg

[paper crag]

so has london been playing like trash today or was outlaws good?

[fiery reef]

God I hope she isn't at the Grand finals in NYC.

[pearl stratus]

Well its the crowds fault.

[spring lintel]

jake fangirl club lmao

[pearl stratus]

No one murdered her yet.

[cedar basin]

god they're so annoying

[fiery reef]

I'm gonna sneak in some ducttape just to be sure.

[waxen rampart]

i'm a proud jake fangirl

[feral wing]

Both

[cedar basin]

holy shit

[ruby pendant]

lol

[cedar basin]

the fucking REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE's

[ruby pendant]

These people are funny

[pearl stratus]

Seriously just lean over and punch her in the throat in all the excitement.

No one will notice.

[feral wing]

Lets go fusion and houston

[fiery reef]

If I was sitting next to here ... I think i'd prob get up and ask if I can get a refund

[solar trout]

its like that shock guy

WOO

[serene tendon]

jake <3

[vagrant niche]

freaking Banshee

[paper crag]

the abrupt stop in the screaming and a loud "URPH" would be pretty noticeable 😛

[vagrant niche]

needs to be put on a zoo

[waxen rampart]

i am a jake fangirl

[vagrant niche]

SHUT UP

[spring lintel]

nyxl still gonna destroy everyone

[pearl stratus]

I'd just let her know if she screams again I was going to treat her equally.

And by that I mean beat the shit out of her.

[ruby pendant]

@vagrant niche lol

[cedar basin]

it's probably some fat chick

[pearl stratus]

Like I would a man.

[fiery reef]

Shit even banshee's would tell her ass to shut up.

[pearl stratus]

Because I'm a feminist.

[heady idol]

so anyways

[frosty anvil]

My grandpa would like her

[paper crag]

i don't mind a hyped up crowd, but i do agree that some people stand out

[frosty anvil]

because she is hearing aids

[heady idol]

jake is a pretty sweet player

:))

[fiery reef]

more like causes hearing aids

[paper crag]

i wonder if the sound team can tone down on the trebles for the crowd mic

[waxen rampart]

they should yeah

turn down the 1k range

[cedar basin]

jake pharah > jakerat

[pearl stratus]

They'll get to a point they just remove people like that.

[waxen rampart]

high mids

[pearl stratus]

Which is fine.

[spring lintel]

selling rascal cost them everything

[heady idol]

Jakerah > Jakerat?

[waxen rampart]

thats what stands out most

[frosty anvil]

they turned down the whole crowd, that's the only way we, as people who are not dogs, can hear her in the first place

[spring lintel]

after selling rascal they went to trashcNland

[ruby pendant]

lol

Too many mean comments

[paper crag]

maybe blizz should record some canned audience hype screams and play those after some nice plays instead of the shrieks

[sullen berry]

Anyone joined Rascals discord server

[paper crag]

peace of mind AND the hype crowd experience of a LAN

[spring lintel]

i like the hyped chick

[paper crag]

best of both worlds

[waxen rampart]

you know what they should do

[sullen berry]

I only found out now that Shanghai started running one for the last 4 weeks

[waxen rampart]

have recorded hype for different intensities, and match them live to the audience's volume

[cedar basin]

sometimes you need to be mean to see a clear reality of the situation

[heady idol]

LMAO

[cedar basin]

WOO's > Screetching

[paper crag]

^

[heady idol]

"screaming Outlaws fangirl is the real Player of the Match"

This comment is below the threshold.

in less than 3 minutes

fastest I've ever seen a comment get hidden

[spring lintel]

we need more screeches

[paper crag]

it's just relatively easier on the ears

[waxen rampart]

where

?

@ satella

[heady idol]

cow

[cedar basin]

...cow?

moo

[sullen berry]

Substitution sponsored by T-mobile

[spring lintel]

cow is a joke

[sullen berry]

Comp OW

[spring lintel]

depends on who is modding at the time

they are okay with a picture of greguri but not an interaction of her with xqc

or someone asking a question is fine

[paper crag]

profit symmetra hype /s

[spring lintel]

lmao, so go flood cow with questions cause it's allowed

[paper crag]

i forget if symm left click goes through shields

[spring lintel]

doesnt

[paper crag]

ah okay

[quasi stump]

WHAT

oh

[paper crag]

winston does though right?

i feel like it did

[spring lintel]

winston goes thro ye

[paper crag]

huh interesting

[serene tendon]

this is the best meta

[paper crag]

is outlaws the only team where a main tank runs brig?

so far, at least

[solar trout]

oh god

the copypasta

[quasi stump]

[sullen berry]

@paper crag nah bischu on blizzard world first game

[cedar basin]

Uber X is the best caster

[serene tendon]

rawkus is gonna get bopped

[cedar basin]

he makes shit so hyped

[paper crag]

oh okay. i missed the entire day until this match map 3

[sullen berry]

I missed the upset against uprising and fusion

So I don't know if Kalios actually proved himself at all

[paper crag]

so brig mostly played by dps, but there have been off/main tanks playing her as well

[sullen berry]

Mickie did in the Dragons VS Fuel match

[paper crag]

oh yeah

[cedar basin]

dragons/fuel match was so....saddening

[paper crag]

top 10 anime disappointments...

[cedar basin]

dragons have a chance against fuel but they're just repeating the same mistakes

[hidden vault]

PLS let London win at least 1!

[serene tendon]

rawkus so greedy

[sullen berry]

NYXL nor Mayhem considered playing her, but the picks were ready to counter tracer

[cedar basin]

Linkzr is carrying the fuck out of the team

[paper crag]

i really wonder how shd was so unprepared for brig though

did they not scrim or something

[sullen berry]

You would think Arhan would carry the team, and I'm happy he isn't needed at this stage of the season

[paper crag]

dat sonic arrow radius

[sullen berry]

He'll be so ready to unleash hell on season 2

[cedar basin]

Is there any player that has been benched 100% from the OWL

?

[sullen berry]

Its monster

[paper crag]

mendo

[quasi stump]

iddqd?

[raven badger]

what team is he even on

[cedar basin]

san fran right?

[paper crag]

i thought he was mayhem

guess not

[pearl stratus]

Mendo is being kept on just for his stream at this point

[sullen berry]

@cedar basin plenty: mendokusai iddqd Snow/Avast from uprising

[raven badger]

he's another soldier player basically like AKM

[pearl stratus]

However the biggest difference is

Mendo has been offered to play.

[vagrant niche]

Jake playing so good

[pearl stratus]

And turned it down

[cedar basin]

Who the FUCK is avast LOL

[sullen berry]

Not one game subbed in or on stage

[vagrant niche]

that dragon was so good

[sullen berry]

Exactly lol

[pearl stratus]

So its not as bad as Avast/IDDQD

[cedar basin]

I know iddqd cuz he streams

but avast....jeez

[sullen berry]

Snow isn't of age yet

Like flow3r

[serene tendon]

muma 😩

[cedar basin]

Cant wait for Flow3r to join

he's nuts

[pearl stratus]

Mendo turned down playing because he's depressed etc etc.

[sullen berry]

Anyone else I missed who joined since s1 and is still being benched

[cedar basin]

aw

[vagrant niche]

shadowbenched?

[sullen berry]

Oh yeah, one other outlaws guy

[vagrant niche]

clockwork?

[raven badger]

no, shadowburn did get some play time

so has clockwork

[solar trout]

cocco?

[raven badger]

he also has played

[solar trout]

like once

[sullen berry]

Clockwork mentioned mendo couldn't start because of health complications and Cocco did play until stage 2

[vagrant niche]

S1 was all Cocco pretty much

once xQc got banned

[raven badger]

he played like the final dallas match

in S3

[sullen berry]

Cocco has played as much as Sinatraa, but no more play time than him

[hidden vault]

Jake on Genji??

[sullen berry]

That's not a surprise, he does play genji

Arhan though, great genji and tracer for them to have

[serene tendon]

JAKE OF ALL TRADES Pogchamp

[hidden vault]

does Arhan even play?

[sullen berry]

He's eligible this stage

Since stage 3 - So that should tell you something

[heady idol]

going so aggressive as brig cost them

[vagrant niche]

C9

[sullen berry]

Hoo hah

The name lives on

[heady idol]

LUL

[leaden quail]

C99999999999

[sullen berry]

Three 3s on Houstons board..

3x3 = C9

I do believe they didn't have to do that against brigitte

Just scatter

[heady idol]

did the woo girls get a talking to?

haven't hjeard them in a bit

[waxen rampart]

i hope

[sullen berry]

They're not popping off, and are already disappointed by birdring's performance

And I reckoem Staff need to start focusing on noise control too

[waxen rampart]

well

there they are

[vagrant niche]

same thing as Shangai

Brigitta

[heady idol]

nvm they are back

[vagrant niche]

go play Dive

[waxen rampart]

Shangai

[vagrant niche]

OMEGA

[waxen rampart]

Brigittina

what

[sullen berry]

Paid woo girls lol

[waxen rampart]

aid girls

[leaden quail]

J KE

[ruby pendant]

Some journalist may get paid to go, would be a sweet job though!

[waxen rampart]

i might go see OWL live sometime this summer

[warped axle]

I miss the old London

[ruby pendant]

@waxen rampart Grand finals?

[sullen berry]

[waxen rampart]

probably not grand finals

i can't go all the way across the country

i live in CA anyway

so LA isn't too bad

[languid wigeon]

I cant wait to watch it at blizzcon again

[ruby pendant]

k

[languid wigeon]

saw the world cup 2 years ago live was amazing

[waxen rampart]

you going to grand finals?

[sullen berry]

World cup experience is massive

[ruby pendant]

Thinking about it

[waxen rampart]

how much are the tickets

[ruby pendant]

presale is about $60

[pearl stratus]

That last comp by Houston is going to be what a bunch of teams vod watch for them. Calling it now.

[waxen rampart]

hmm

probably not

[ruby pendant]

then you have master and grandmaster options

[waxen rampart]

i dunno

[sullen berry]

Personally don't think they can have the same numbers without making cheaper concessions

[waxen rampart]

what are those

[ruby pendant]

it's for 2 days though

or 3

[waxen rampart]

lower prices for GM players

[sullen berry]

Lower prices for bronze tier to learn and ladder out

[vagrant niche]

there was nothing impressive, it was Shangai all over again

[sullen berry]

[vagrant niche]

they played dive against brigitta

composition

[ruby pendant]

@waxen rampart lol

[waxen rampart]

we need a bottom 500 rank in OW

that would be pretty sweet

[sullen berry]

Play dive against brigitte

[ruby pendant]

GM =
Grandmaster Event Bracelet
Commemorative OWL Grand Finals 2018 laminate & lanyard
Exclusive Overwatch League Drawstring Bag – only available at OWL Grand Finals 2018
Beat the crowd with early entry for hassle-free merchandise shopping & seat selection
Meet the players - attend exclusive player signing sessions with star players

[sullen berry]

Expecting not to change strats

[pearl stratus]

I mean what do you change though.

[waxen rampart]

anyway

[ruby pendant]

Masters= Master Event Bracelet
Commemorative OWL Grand Finals 2018 laminate & lanyard
Exclusive Overwatch League Drawstring Bag

[waxen rampart]

that was good

good games today

[pearl stratus]

It was a Brigitte one tank comp with double snipers.

It's weird anyway you look at it.

Call it the Quick Play.

[vagrant niche]

you play Rein, Junkrat, Brigitta

back

[ruby pendant]

4-0 sweep good game?haha

[vagrant niche]

snipers are done

[sullen berry]

Even NYXL went double snipers

[vagrant niche]

Brigitta is kept on check

[sullen berry]

I'm seeing a trend

[pearl stratus]

How are snipers done?

[vagrant niche]

The big rectangle shield

[pearl stratus]

Linkzr and Jake played round Rein on every map.

Even when Gesture went Rein they just lobbed a mech over his head, and then scattered him when he turned around.

[vagrant niche]

Also hanzo is not a sniper

a true sniper

[forest wharf]

hanzo is definitely a sniper

[vagrant niche]

ok m8

good night

[waxen rampart]

hanzo is not a sniper lol

[limber pine]

hanzo is classified in OW as a sniper

so yes, he's a sniper

[leaden quail]

^

[lethal plank]

Read the Reddit post. So no tank is the meta now. Gg Blizzard

[supple prism]

read or read

[lethal plank]

Now I'm going to get the assholes who won't switch because "There was no tank in OWL on this map and Houston won so we won't need one"

Past tense read

[supple prism]

which map was it?

[waxen rampart]

symmetra is classified in OW as a support
so she's a support

[lethal plank]

Gibraltar I think

[waxen rampart]

i mean hanzo is more sniper than sym is support

but yeah

[supple prism]

how is hanzo not a sniper

[lethal plank]

Stage 4 is going to be so boring

[waxen rampart]

he's more long mid range and tank buster

[supple prism]

then whats Ana

[waxen rampart]

a healer

yes, a sniper because she scopes in and has long range hitscan but i don't think she fits that role per se

[supple prism]

game also considers her a sniper

[waxen rampart]

IMO a sniper needs to largely play from the back and focus on the high value targets

and be able to oneshot

[supple prism]

hanzo can do that though

[waxen rampart]

he can oneshot, yes

but he's more of a frontline dps

for a sniper, you don't actually spend that much time sniping

[torpid charm]

[indigo barn]

[hazy arrow]

Philly (y)

Anyway, those screaming people there are sooo annoying

Like not those cheering, but really those who are screaming as loudly and as annoyingly as possible

[vivid solar]

@glossy hamlet Please use the LFG channels for that

[glossy hamlet]

Sorry 'bout that

[vivid solar]

All good my dude

[fresh turret]

Houston poggers

Also what team won without tank?

[warped axle]

[vast geode]

Wait rly what round

[rapid bobcat]

wow I got 12 tokens from watching last night

thats a lot more than usual for me

[fresh turret]

Got nuthin

[pearl stratus]

I got 112.

Up to 812 tokens now.

[vagrant niche]

how many skins have you bought?

[pearl stratus]

4 or 5.

But I only buy them for heroes who don't have base skins I really really like.

So D'va, Pharah, Brigitte, Soldier all have one. D'va I think has two.

[vagrant niche]

I only buy skins for character i play, like 1 pharah, 2 tracer, 1 brigitta

[pearl stratus]

No interest in other peoples base skins with recolors.

[vagrant niche]

I want to get Mayhem Pharah

i have plenty of credits

[pearl stratus]

I have Seoul and Houston Pharah.

Because Black + Color just looks good on her.

I really wish Shanghai was Black + Red.

[fresh turret]

I have Seoul Mercy because I like the colors

Which Houston skin out of tanks/supports is the best?

I wanna rep for my bois

[pearl stratus]

D'va or Pharah, imo.

[heady idol]

I can't believe how many people buy into the "paid crowd" thing

did Twitch spam it enough that some idiots believe it?

[limber pine]

!schedule

[somber yew]

Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 1

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

May 18th 19:00 EDT (in 6 hours)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

May 18th 21:00 EDT (in 8 hours)

<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs SEO <:SEO:438251672754585602>

May 18th 23:00 EDT (in 10 hours)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

May 19th 16:00 EDT (in a day)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs VAL <:VAL:438251672720900097>

May 19th 18:00 EDT (in a day)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

May 19th 20:00 EDT (in a day)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · May 18, 2018, 4:55 PM

[limber pine]

good games tonight

[heady idol]

Glad, Houston, Seoul

Even though Seoul is probably going to let me down again

[limber pine]

i wouldn't be surprised by anything this stage

[pearl stratus]

Honestly the last two days of matches have been so refreshing.

So much random weird shit.

Two teams running solo tanks for a bit, etc.

[heady idol]

Oh man

ahaha there is a tinfoil hat thread on cow saying that Brig was invented and added to make Houston a stronger team.

[pearl stratus]

I hope Houston runs their Quick Play comp on Gibraltar again.

Lmao considering how little Houston actually ran her, thats funny.

They really only used her a bunch on Gibraltar.

[limber pine]

Overwatch is being played the way the devs imagined it this stage

not switching between maps, or rounds, or parts of the map, but actually "let's run back to spawn and switch to counter _____"

and it's really fun

[pearl stratus]

That stupid ass comp from Houston on Gibraltar too though.

I think it flat out just confused London to no end.

Ideally you'd go Rein to counter the double Widows, but there's so much vertical stuff on Gibraltar you really can't. And then you get Muma stunning Rein into Scatter Arrows etc.

It was hilarious.

[heady idol]

people were so up in arms about how this is going to be the worst stage yet and how balance is going to be so bad

did Blizz lowkey nail the balance this patch or what

so many heroes are being picked

even Ana

ANA

[pearl stratus]

I think no one experienced it enough to know, honestly.

1.22 was live for what...

3 days?

So it was 72 hours of people crying about Brigitte because it was a new hero and they had no clue what to do.

Then new Hanzo dropped.

And fucked everything up.

But overall I'd say yeah, the 1.22 balance is a lot more entertaining than the current one which is a pretty cemented roster for meta.

This is a map dependent meta, which as a player is a lot more enjoyable.

[heady idol]

for sure

[pearl stratus]

Eqo played what - 8 heroes total over a map series because they were adjusting and strat changing?

[heady idol]

I enjoy not knowing exactly which 6 heroes are going to be picked every map

[pearl stratus]

That's exciting.

[heady idol]

also the bastion cheese yesterday

on King;'s row

beautiful

[pearl stratus]

Honestly my favorite part of yesterday was Jakes Pharah.

Cause when did he get that good on Pharah again.

5 Envirokills in one round.

Apparently Kyky being around brings back Jakes World Cup hero pool.

[heady idol]

lol

the KYKY WAS THE PROBLEM spam yesterday was fynny

[pearl stratus]

Kyky on Watchpoint basically said he wanted to be tough on them, and hastr0 told him to be nice.

So the story thickens even more.

On a wholesome note:

Blizzard so far has donated over $10M for the Breast Cancer fund.

[supple prism]

Blizzard? You mean us.

[fresh turret]

Houston v Boston could either be rly hype or crush my soul

As a Houston supporter

They got fucked last time

Boston never ever let them do anything

So I'm hoping that that isn't the case this time

[pearl stratus]

Looking at how Boston played last night I don't think they're nearly on pace in this meta as Houston is.

[fresh turret]

Although I would love a map 5 Houston series, I don't think they'll win if it goes to map 5 or that my heart could take it

[pearl stratus]

They're having to flex to things they're not comfortable with, and its noticeable.

[fresh turret]

Yeah

[pearl stratus]

If you get into a Widow + Pharah situation Houston has an insane advantage.

Striker is pretty close to Jake on the Junkrat, but there hasn't been much Junkrat played by Houston, they're using other strategies.

[fresh turret]

It would be poetic in a way if Houston destroyed Boston this time around

[pearl stratus]

Also Spree is much better than Kalios.

[fresh turret]

Spree is so fucking good dude

Watching his ult charge is one of the more hilarious things in OWL matches

[pearl stratus]

Watching him solo ult Birdring then get a grav back for the next team fight was like "Wut."

[torpid charm]

Spree is amazing, I'm so glad he's playing more now

[heady idol]

i can't tell how good spree is

yesterday he felt so unchallenged

he just solo grav;d because he could

[fresh turret]

That could be an indication

If he's doing that against the spitfire

My boy was looking filthy

[heady idol]

maybe

[torpid charm]

even before this stage he played well, but he's definitely going to thrive way more because of this meta

but I see what you mean, Satella

[heady idol]

honestly, I don't remember him last stage, I wasn't really paying that much attention tho. so apologizes if I offended

[torpid charm]

London looked sad yesterday from what I got to see, and I didn't except a 4-0

[fresh turret]

He didnt play stag 3

[torpid charm]

he played stage 2 if needed but not often

[heady idol]

well it's a good thing I idn't remember him last stage then

lmao

[torpid charm]

!schedule

[somber yew]

Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 4 Week 1

<:DAL:438251672783814657> DAL vs GLA <:GLA:438251672632950787>

May 18th 19:00 EDT (in 5 hours)

<:BOS:438251672633081857> BOS vs HOU <:HOU:438251672821563402>

May 18th 21:00 EDT (in 7 hours)

<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs SEO <:SEO:438251672754585602>

May 18th 23:00 EDT (in 9 hours)

<:PHI:438251672536481794> PHI vs FLA <:FLA:438251672779882506>

May 19th 16:00 EDT (in a day)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs VAL <:VAL:438251672720900097>

May 19th 18:00 EDT (in a day)

<:LDN:438251672876351489> LDN vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

May 19th 20:00 EDT (in a day)

Developed with LOVE by MoonFire · May 18, 2018, 5:48 PM

[heady idol]

Gla, Hou, Seo. LEZ GO

[torpid charm]

hopefully I won't be out and about tonight so I can watch the games. I'm interested in Houston vs. Boston

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