esports-discussion

[coarse willow]

xd

[forest jungle]

Underdog are people who are unlikely to win

[rare sonnet]

that kid had a headset on???

he's like 12 wtf

[bright linden]

I love how my friends thought Shanghai would start winning because of Geguri

[vagrant niche]

right now, the expected result that the masses is Shangai to win, so Dallas is under the pressure here, that's why i think they are the underdogs cause skill wise they are about the same or worse

just my take on it

[vestal berry]

damn that tire was really well timed

just barely past the shield

[coarse willow]

no an underdog is a team who are unlikely to win but end up winning, so in other words not SHD because they dont win XD

[bright linden]

even though 1 person can't carry an entire team

[shy wind]

Oh no brigette was played onm kings row?

[forest jungle]

That tire was bit of farther away. the damage fall off is what saved her mech

I knew she got damaged by SOMETHING

[vagrant niche]

@coarse willow but can't be that said about the Fuel on this situation as well?

[coarse willow]

fuel isnt an underdog lmao

[forest jungle]

Nope

[vagrant niche]

ok

[forest jungle]

SHD is winless

[vagrant niche]

welp,

[forest jungle]

SHD is underdog of all underdog in OWL

XD

[vagrant niche]

lol

ok m8

[coarse willow]

shd is not an underdog

cuz theyll never win

[frosty anvil]

hahaha

[shy wind]

But.. that's the underdog..

[coarse willow]

underdogs end up winning in the end lmao

[forest jungle]

Fuel, as much people like to shit on them for drama whatnot, are still better team than SHD in terms of score

[coarse willow]

an underdog is not a team who can only beat teams worse than them

so dallas

is not an underdog

[vagrant niche]

MALIK stop it

what do you mean "everybody shangai"

XD

[coarse willow]

i need to sleep

[forest wharf]

i mean, thats not much of a comparison when they have 0 wins, literally everyone is better in terms of wins

[coarse willow]

but i wanna see dallas 3-1 shd

so my prediction will be right

and i want those tokenssss

[paper crag]

yo real talk though. what's up with diya's jaws

[vagrant niche]

don't jinx it

[forest jungle]

Photo light

They're usually super bright and gives odd contours sometimes

[frosty anvil]

both of them? @paper crag

[paper crag]

lol

[forest jungle]

Malik is definitely not used to this desk job

[rare sonnet]

oldmou

[paper crag]

i was always under the impression that you have left and right jaws

is it just a single jaw

[rare sonnet]

yeah lol

[vagrant niche]

AIM GOD please

[paper crag]

lol

[vagrant niche]

return to us

[paper crag]

then why the hell is the movie jaws "jaws"

[frosty anvil]

yeah, the thing is, I think they use the same lighting for everyone for those pictures. If you have any features that are super different or you are taller / shorter than the median person (and no booster is used) then you will run into issues with the photography

[paper crag]

does it have multiple sharks

[frosty anvil]

source: am photographer

[heady idol]

mayeb the name of the shark is pluralized, like if someone was named "Tims"

lmao

[paper crag]

lol i feel like the fact that whoever took that photo and passed it on takes no pride in his/her work

[rare sonnet]

@frosty anvil from you profile pic i really couldn't tell 😂

[paper crag]

"his face looks fucked up, but i'll let it slide i guess"

[bitter phoenix]

JEFF JEFF JEFF JEFF JEFF

[paper crag]

"not like this is a multimillion dollar league or anything"

[forest jungle]

LOL

[rare sonnet]

lol

[stable wadi]

Oh yeah well I'm also a photographer

And I say that sounds about right so what are you gonna do about it

[heady idol]

"It's a bit of a problem for Shanghai that their best Briggite, Zarya, and only D'va player is all the same person."

lmao

[paper crag]

SHD needs to take new pictures for daemin geguri ado and fearless with their real jerseys

[forest jungle]

Yeah, actually

[paper crag]

with their names on the shoulder

[forest jungle]

I was wondering if they'd run Geg on brig

XD

[frosty anvil]

@rare sonnet haha yeah, i take way too many pictures of myself testing out new lighting schemes XD Super expensive selfies!

[shy wind]

Actually

[rare sonnet]

😄

[shy wind]

it seems like pros enjoy brigette in her current state

according to this atleast

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/8jzm1m/soe_the_players_of_gladiators_and_shock_said_that/

[frosty anvil]

Oh we talkin' jerseys now? I'm wondering why on the Jack in the Box sponsor - they're not exactly nationwide, seems like an odd sponsor IMO

[rare sonnet]

not even worldwide

[paper crag]

maybe they have a big presence in texas?

[rare sonnet]

but they're big in texas i think

[paper crag]

idk

[frosty anvil]

they definitely do in Texas - the southwest in general.

[rare sonnet]

i don't even live on that continent but i still know that

[forest jungle]

Maybe they're just taking w/e sponsor they can get

[stable wadi]

Daemin better have leveled up

[paper crag]

i guess they thought it was a worthy investment

[heady idol]

is daein still in?

[forest jungle]

Daemin's in

Ado's out

[heady idol]

:((

[forest jungle]

Diya's in

[frosty anvil]

I mean, it's probably good exposure for them, but they're paying national prices for that exposure! (insert shrug emoji here)

[heady idol]

briggy again

[paper crag]

but if ado's not playing, how can he be a madoman?

[forest jungle]

SHD dive

...why

[heady idol]

I hope thye had a good chat

[vestal berry]

using tracer FeelsBadMan

[forest jungle]

T_T

SHD why

[forest wharf]

and still no brigitte counter...

[rare sonnet]

Dallas made me want to eat some jack in the box but my nearest restaurant will cost me a 600 return trip

[forest jungle]

WHY

[vestal berry]

pls switch

[forest jungle]

SHD stop

STOP THIS

[heady idol]

rip

[vagrant niche]

ALLA TILL MIG

[heady idol]

dream is dead

[forest wharf]

ok now junk at least helps

[north tendon]

damn

[vestal berry]

HES STILL GOING

[hazy arrow]

Hell Mickie find his role

[forest jungle]

Fearless and Daemin needs to stop

[ruby monolith]

JESUS

THE HUMANITY

[forest jungle]

Geguri as well

[forest wharf]

need to swap to orisa zarya or something

[forest jungle]

Rein, Zarya, Junk

[limber umbra]

shanghai no

[forest jungle]

Brig

[limber umbra]

pls

[forest jungle]

c'mon

[limber umbra]

dont do this

[forest jungle]

or Sombra

[limber umbra]

bronze peeps know not to do this

[forest jungle]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

[vestal berry]

FEARLESS SWITCH

[paper crag]

i feel like dive just isn't as universally viable anymore

[forest wharf]

it isnt

[paper crag]

but shd is just being headstrong :\

[forest jungle]

Not when they have Brig and McCree

[rare sonnet]

shanghai play different heroes pls

[forest wharf]

especially if they have brigitte

[forest jungle]

you're just gonna get stunned to death

[vagrant niche]

YES AIM GOD

you take care of rat

we WIN

[rare sonnet]

daemin play hanzo

[heady idol]

deamin is straight bot'ing it

[forest jungle]

FEARLESS GEGURI FREAKING SWITCH

[forest wharf]

WHY STILL WINSTON

[forest jungle]

Are they purposefully trying to lose?

[paper crag]

fearless lol

[forest jungle]

Is that SHD's strat?

[paper crag]

SHD trying to keep us on the edge

[minor flame]

lmao SHD

[forest jungle]

"guys, we' have ton of fans cause we keep losing, make sure not to win"

[forest wharf]

NOW HE SWAPS

[rare sonnet]

...

[paper crag]

they're gonna win map 4 and 5 tho

[minor flame]

their only chance of winning a game

[forest wharf]

gg

[paper crag]

TRUST

[rare sonnet]

they have rally they lost.

[forest jungle]

FUCK FEARLESS

[minor flame]

and they use dive

[rare sonnet]

GG

[balmy wolf]

its only the first map of 2cp, chill

[heady idol]

YES

YES

[rare sonnet]

omg how

[minor flame]

daemin on rat

lmao

[forest wharf]

finally killed mickie lol

[forest jungle]

Phew it's over

[rare sonnet]

How do you use rally and then let ur teammmates die

[paper crag]

how does rein dva work?

other than ult combo

[forest jungle]

No clue

[heady idol]

you want the d.matrix

[minor flame]

you let rein die

[heady idol]

otherwise you'd zarya

[minor flame]

while you jet in

[rare sonnet]

D.Va holds DM when shield is down

[vestal berry]

you can play dva in multiple ways

[heady idol]

LOL

[paper crag]

lol

[rare sonnet]

PULL

[minor flame]

sad we dont get geguri zarya

[quasi stump]

HJESUS

[paper crag]

geguri's wasn't as good

it was only one real kill

[rare sonnet]

fearless wtf

[forest wharf]

that trans...

[forest jungle]

No it wasn't

[rare sonnet]

why would you charge a fortified orisa

[north tendon]

poor rein

[heady idol]

okay, at least they are doing better with rein. PLEASE LEARN FOR SECOND MAP.

PLEASE LEARN SHD

[forest jungle]

Yeah

[forest wharf]

rip

[forest jungle]

I want to reach in to screen and smack Fearless

[vagrant niche]

THE BIRD!!!

[supple prism]

damn

[minor flame]

fearless is fearless of losing

[forest jungle]

v.v

[hazy arrow]

SEAGULL ❤

[forest jungle]

Fearless is just favored by their coach

He's way too aggressive.

[limber umbra]

they can do this if they pick a fucking comp that doesnt get autoshutdown by bagette

[hazy arrow]

Please dont leave Bird

[rare sonnet]

no brigitte on this map so SHD can win easier

[minor flame]

what the fuck

[heady idol]

YOU CURSED IT

[forest wharf]

oh wow no winston this time

[rare sonnet]

MODS D:

@limpid estuary

thanks

[limpid estuary]

Moving swiftly onwards

[rare sonnet]

you deleted it 😃

[minor flame]

stealth brig

my go

d

[forest jungle]

[vagrant niche]

GET ALLA TIG MIGGED

[minor flame]

i still dont understand the dva

[forest wharf]

wait what happened

[fiery reef]

Why aren't they running Brig? Can only ado do it or something?

[forest jungle]

I don't know

[spring lintel]

assassin btw

[forest jungle]

T_T

[shy wind]

Why brig?

[forest jungle]

Where's Geg Zarya?

[minor flame]

More like why are they running dva

[shy wind]

zarya would be much better

[fiery reef]

Shes good on these maps.

[rare sonnet]

@forest wharf malicious link

[shy wind]

in this situation

[spring lintel]

brig is op as shi

[vagrant niche]

AIM GOD

[paper crag]

geguri actually plays a mean brig, but she can't play her for obvious reasons

[spring lintel]

better than a second dps

[forest jungle]

DAEMIN NO

NO

NO

[fiery reef]

lol shes not op as shit. but she is good on some maps

[forest jungle]

ARGH

[vestal berry]

he switched to TRACER?

[rare sonnet]

daemin why

[heady idol]

LMAO

[forest wharf]

TRACER

[heady idol]

soldier swap

[vestal berry]

AFTER A BRIG ULT YOU SWITCH TO TRACER?

[heady idol]

mickie down

[rare sonnet]

McCree/Brigitte/Pharah? TIME TO PLAY TARCER

[heady idol]

rip

[pallid cargo]

this is not fun to watch at all.

[forest wharf]

plz

[velvet scarab]

earthshatter into trans

[forest jungle]

Nope

[velvet scarab]

gg

[quasi stump]

this is infuriating

[forest jungle]

What is wrong with SHD

[vestal berry]

deamin is just doing whatever he wants

[paper crag]

control has always been Fuel's strong point

[heady idol]

SHD reacting worse than solo queue

[vestal berry]

he isnt a team player

[heady idol]

to brig

[vagrant niche]

WINNABLE FUEL DON'T CHOKE ALLA TILL MIG

[forest jungle]

No he's not

[shy wind]

idk why they're running d.va

[verbal roost]

all access should include vr 😮

[shy wind]

and not zarya

into brig

[fiery reef]

They aren't running Brig ... despite getting wrecked by one ... they need to use her on maps like this.

[heady idol]

at least try

[balmy wolf]

shd secretely plat team lul

[heady idol]

AT LEAST TRY

[forest jungle]

into brig and Pharah

why d.va

[minor flame]

the coachin shows to be so fucking atrocious

[shy wind]

Them not having brig is fine, but having d.va is just weird

[hazy arrow]

[paper crag]

hopefully payload will play out like hybrid did

[fiery reef]

Shes not hard. Like shit ..

[bitter phoenix]

Fuel, fixed their issues from the first part of the 2nd map and now they are toying with SHD

[forest wharf]

[vagrant niche]

[forest jungle]

Fuel adepted after first map's crushign defeat

[paper crag]

Fuel always seems like they fixed their problems in week 1

[forest jungle]

SHD didn't

[minor flame]

Geguri learned brig at like the first 10 mins

[forest jungle]

at all

[north tendon]

why are they still diving

[minor flame]

Brig is easy

[paper crag]

and then new problems pop out in the middle of week 2

it's a tradition

[limber umbra]

these fucking comp picks are making my head hurt

[forest jungle]

Daemin also needs to be smacked around

[balmy wolf]

has shd ever adapted lul

[forest jungle]

WHY TRACER

[stable wadi]

why are these discover ads so fuckin LOUD

[forest jungle]

no

[rare sonnet]

I genuinely think I could help SHD and I’m not even top 500

[fiery reef]

why are they still dying* FTFY

[forest wharf]

swap fucking everyone out, fuck it bring back roshan

[minor flame]

SHD coach should step down for the third time

[paper crag]

bring back undad

[supple prism]

SHD has language barriers still right?

[wide basin]

I guess you all know that saying about the definition of insanity

[forest jungle]

This isn't even 'oh, they're not doing good against better team' it's mroe of 'oh, they refuse to counter the comp they're running'

[vagrant niche]

Man that was such a sick bomb from Seagull

[forest jungle]

it's not fun to watch at all

[vagrant niche]

yall saw that?

[wide basin]

I was hoping toay was gonna be SHD win

[fiery reef]

Yeah, of course. You don't learn a language overnight

[wide basin]

Seems noe

[north beacon]

i think we've had enough of "SHD Is improving but they still lost. oh well next time"

[paper crag]

SHD will always have language barrier, honestly

[heady idol]

if they Winston into Brig next round I'm just closing the stream.

[north beacon]

i don't know if i want to watch SHD anymore

[balmy wolf]

lol

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[forest jungle]

:/

Yeah same @north beacon

[minor flame]

They had everything to do

Bad teamplay from Dallas

No Effect

[forest wharf]

the shanghai "they're playing better" dragons

[fiery reef]

honestly, I mostly watch for SHD. Like .. shit .. i'm in NYC .. I already know they will be in the top 3 every stage. I don't really need to root for them until then lol

[minor flame]

they couldve done it but Coaching

[shy wind]

rein d.va is already a pretty meh tank comp

[north beacon]

every single game it's "oh they did better! and still 0-30"

[balmy wolf]

theyre gonna probably be winless this stage kek

[minor flame]

had to be the shittiest thing

[rare sonnet]

This isn't even 'oh, they're not doing good against better team' it's mroe of 'oh, they refuse to counter the comp they're running'

PREACH BROTHER

[limber umbra]

"IS TODAY THE DAY"

[shy wind]

zarya + rein or rein + brig is a much better tank combo

[limber umbra]

the answer is always no

[heady idol]

is it so much to ask them just try 😢

[shy wind]

even just running dive is smarter

lmao

[minor flame]

Coaches dont fucking want to properly adapt to the meta

[ruby monolith]

1-4

[north beacon]

if i wanted to be disappointed and almost win i'd play OW myself

[vagrant niche]

guys, don't underestimate the dragons, it's still not over

[balmy wolf]

eh

[forest jungle]

@north beacon Yeah, but they -were- getting better you could see it. But now they're worse. It's like they took 2 steps forward and ten steps back

[vagrant niche]

Fuel has been reversed sweeped before

[minor flame]

Underestimate

im disappointed

[balmy wolf]

i'm not suprised

[rare sonnet]

Two steps forward but you also stepped off a cliff

[forest jungle]

I'm not underestimating

[fiery reef]

This ouwldn't quality as as a reverse sweep though

[forest jungle]

I'm just very disappointed

at their lack of team play

and counter

[fiery reef]

you can only reverse sweep when you are 0-2 and then win 3.

[forest jungle]

it's like they don't understand basics

..Daemin should've stayed on bench

-.-

[fiery reef]

I hear freefeel has been practicing finding a lot of really cool spots to die in.

[forest jungle]

LOL

[rare sonnet]

Freekill

[minor flame]

After all this time their main problems stay the same

[balmy wolf]

freefeed

[minor flame]

peel and tanking

[fiery reef]

Why stop with longest loss streak in sports history. I wonder what other records they can break

[balmy wolf]

welp, dont think shd can win this stage anymore tbh, gg shd lol

[forest jungle]

SHD is just showing what NOT to do against Brig comp

[reef imp]

most frustrated fans, it looks like

[supple prism]

not sports history

[torpid charm]

[spring lintel]

they should stop playing freefeel literally no reason to play freefeel over sky, it just ruins synergy.

[forest wharf]

this is actually an educational game

[heady idol]

Ado

[minor flame]

I feel like SHD is the people at reddit complaining about how brig ruins the game when they dont know how to play around this hellhole of a meta

[fiery reef]

They said sports history. A few weeks ago ... they have the longest loss streak in history.

[vestal berry]

thank the lord deamin is gone

[quasi stump]

ado and diya in thank god

[vagrant niche]

ADO == map 5

[forest wharf]

"how not to counter brigitte"

[forest jungle]

sigh

[heady idol]

REIN

SAVED

[forest wharf]

by kingmykl

[forest jungle]

REIN AND ZARYA

[rare sonnet]

Brigitte is only as overpowered as D.Va

[forest jungle]

THANK YOU

THANK YOU

[spring lintel]

dude it looks like they are just rotating players so everyone gets play time wtf

[vestal berry]

now fearless has to stop playing winston into brig

[supple prism]

esports history maybe, not all sports though

[fiery reef]

They said all history.

and even mentioned some professional teams

[forest jungle]

Sports history

Philidelphia sports team

[fiery reef]

I think it was some basketball team

[forest jungle]

forgot which sports

[fiery reef]

that had it before

[supple prism]

there are ones 3 times longer

[quasi stump]

1 hp taimou jesus

[forest wharf]

1hp lol

[fiery reef]

really? name a team with a loss streak longer than 30?

[quasi stump]

someone breathe on him

[supple prism]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losing_streak

[vestal berry]

??

[rare sonnet]

Guarantee some football team has had a worse win rate but it doesn’t happen outside of American sports because you’ll get relegated to a worse league if you’re terrible enough.

[supple prism]

that nascar one

[fiery reef]

Nah, the record was held by Philly 76's .. basketball

and they beat it

[vestal berry]

what is fearless doing down there/

[forest jungle]

lol

[quasi stump]

altering

[heady idol]

lol

[forest jungle]

XD

[frosty anvil]

pew pew battle mercy!

[forest jungle]

Angry Mercy

Jesus christ

[fiery reef]

@supple prism He was top 10, in a 106 of his races. He didn't win .. but only so many people can win when you have that many competitors.

[rare sonnet]

Derby County in the English Premier league went 32 games without a win

[vestal berry]

ado should honestly play brig here

[rare sonnet]

So they aren’t worst yet

[heady idol]

I feel so bad, at any time you see a full group of fuel and only ever like 3 SHD in the same place

[fiery reef]

They won't work the same way

[forest wharf]

3 times loool

[heady idol]

BRIG

BRIGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[vestal berry]

and they dont know how to fight brig

they lose

[heady idol]

lol

[minor flame]

lmao

[forest jungle]

Geguri on d.va again?

[minor flame]

yup

no zars

[forest jungle]

sigh

[fiery reef]

she was but switched to dva

[minor flame]

Although I am pissed

[fiery reef]

If this doesn't at least go to game 5 ... I'm gonna be sad.

[minor flame]

Geguri did say shes a dva main now

instead of a zarya

[heady idol]

lol the dva boop

[fiery reef]

Shes a great Dva ..

[forest jungle]

Yes, but this isn't our competitive.

[wide basin]

ffs

[forest jungle]

It's pro game

[wide basin]

HH 3 deaths in 3 maps

[heady idol]

brig

[forest jungle]

gg

[minor flame]

Ado showing how it feels to be Genji in the meta

[forest wharf]

stunned lul

[heady idol]

just brig

[vagrant niche]

WORKING AS INTENDED

ANTI DIVE

[north beacon]

brig is terrible

[visual glen]

STUN STUN STUN STUN

[forest jungle]

She's not hard to counter

you get junk and/or pharah

[minor flame]

Shes not

[fiery reef]

Its like they refuse to use brig .. ADO used her once .. and never again.

[minor flame]

but when you get Genji

[forest wharf]

like i dont understand why none of them could play brigitte

[minor flame]

youre fucked

[hazy arrow]

[forest jungle]

Not d.va and Genji

[vagrant niche]

Stop hating on Brig, they are diving and they are anti diving

[stable wadi]

[forest jungle]

genji's not gonna do shit against brig

[vagrant niche]

that's why she was made for

ADO had it coming

[rare sonnet]

Mickie is just having fun

[forest jungle]

No one's hating on Brig

[north beacon]

well at least i can free up all that time i planned on watching SHD from now on

[spring lintel]

shanghai should have played more brig

[rare sonnet]

Literally barely trying

[forest jungle]

well, no one that's getting disappointed at SHD anyways

[minor flame]

Shanghai should not stick with their dive roots

[rare sonnet]

Brigitte is so easy to counter if you try

[forest jungle]

You just need pharah

[rare sonnet]

JUST TRY 😫

[forest jungle]

brig is useless against pharah

[limber umbra]

adoblade shut down lol

[vagrant niche]

pretty much

[fiery reef]

RIght so you pick Pharah ... and what ... magically their mcree doesn't kill you?

[vagrant niche]

and Junkrat

as well

Jake is going to have good time

on this meta

[forest jungle]

That's why you have Zarya, Rein

[minor flame]

When they drafted their players in stage 3

[heady idol]

No one is hating on Brig, we're upset they aren't trying to play around her. When team's won't counter Pharah, it's natural to be like "GOD DAMN IT I HATE PHARAH" even tho it's not really her fault

[forest wharf]

they just need to fucking play brigitte themselves

[rare sonnet]

You body their mccree

[forest wharf]

its not hard

[minor flame]

new meta just fucking shits on their strat

[forest jungle]

Or play Brig, yeah

[rare sonnet]

Because he’ll be distracted

[forest jungle]

they're jsut letting fuel's brig go rampant

[vagrant niche]

HOLD IT FUEL HOOOOLDDD ITTTTTTTT

[reef imp]

You know what? I've decided to forgive Shanghai. It's the beginning of the meta. They'll get used to it.

[hazy arrow]

SHD OUTDATED / FUEL ACTIVATED / LONG HAVE WE WAITED

[forest wharf]

hold right click then left click and then hold left click

[spring lintel]

bots that say just play phara or junkrat or break her shield are so bad lmao

[forest wharf]

WINSTON AGAIN

[minor flame]

OH NO

[forest jungle]

-.-

[minor flame]

FEARLESS WINSTON

[vagrant niche]

AIM GOD i need you to pull this through

and keep ADO on check

[minor flame]

aimgod is in boston

[vagrant niche]

i'm talking about Taimou

he was the old aim god

[forest jungle]

Oldmou

[vagrant niche]

^

[minor flame]

now they have a new aimgod

and his name is aimgod

[vestal berry]

and junk kills widow

[minor flame]

and hes a mercy main

[forest jungle]

I don't know if I can continue being SHD's fan anymore.

Disappointment is too much T_T Especially after that first map

[paper crag]

aw cmon i just jumped ship from DF

cmon SHD

[forest jungle]

LOL

[forest wharf]

its ok theyre improving

so much

[paper crag]

lol seriously

[forest jungle]

No they're not

They -were-

[forest wharf]

thats the joke

[minor flame]

They improved from being 4-0ed to being 3-1ed

[forest jungle]

They refuse to work with meta

[minor flame]

thats it

[vestal berry]

once he shatters they lose

[supple prism]

SHD really does look like gold/plat right now though

[forest jungle]

And I made twitter just to follow Geguri and SHD too

[heady idol]

Brig

[forest wharf]

oh wow they got point 1...

[heady idol]

this is the ultimate test

[paper crag]

oge getting winston too lol

[vestal berry]

brig and they lose

[forest wharf]

annnddd brigittes back rip

[hazy arrow]

If North Korea tries to bomb USA, Seagull will just destroy those rockets

[minor flame]

what?

[heady idol]

PLEASE FEARLESS

[vestal berry]

ITS POSSIBLE

CHANCES ARENT 0

[minor flame]

oh nice one Fearless

going after the pocketed brig

[heady idol]

Mickie just runs at freefeel

feel;sbadman

[forest jungle]

YES ADO that's how you counter

[heady idol]

OMG

[minor flame]

YES THEY ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO DIVE

[hazy arrow]

It sounded a bit like Harrycook 😄

[heady idol]

Rally now tho

[spring lintel]

casually walks in the middle of the whole team and kills the zen

[minor flame]

what the fuck are you talking about

[spring lintel]

very balanced

[forest wharf]

reverse sweep...? i want to believe....

[minor flame]

technically not a reverse sweep

[forest jungle]

it's already not reverse sweep

XD

[paper crag]

but it's not reverse sweep

[forest jungle]

lol

[fiery reef]

yeah .. not how that works ... Mentioned this before lol

[forest wharf]

[minor flame]

its not that SHD can counter brig its that mickie is shit on brig

[vestal berry]

PLAY GREEDY THEY ONLY HAVE 1 DPS

[spring lintel]

shittrwnd

[fiery reef]

what? Hes pretty good wit hher.

[minor flame]

Ive seen Mickie overextend sometimes

and it may or may not cause his death

[forest jungle]

If SHd is forced to OT, SHD loses instantly

[pearl stratus]

He's also been abandoned for two of his deaths.

[fiery reef]

VS Who wins. You decide! Epic Overwatch battles of history!

[pearl stratus]

The biggest thing is this is a meta that will be -really- good with Dallas.

No matter who they play.

[heady idol]

ADO RAT

GOG OGOGOG

[pearl stratus]

Look at their current roster.

[shy wind]

Now dallas is throwing

comp wise

wat

[pearl stratus]

Look at the 6 people who are playing.

What's different than all of Stage 3.

[heady idol]

DIYA

[minor flame]

no effect

lol

[pearl stratus]

Minus OGE this is entirely EnvyUS.

Because this is a meta EnvyUS did insanely well on.

With minimal practice.

[paper crag]

riptire won't change anything 😦

[forest jungle]

SHD lost

[minor flame]

gg

[heady idol]

gg

[forest jungle]

gg

[pearl stratus]

EnvyUS has always been great at a brawler meta.

[heady idol]

sad

[forest wharf]

rip

[vagrant niche]

YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[vestal berry]

damn

[paper crag]

gg

[hazy arrow]

sHd WiLl FiNaLlY gEt ThEiR fIrSt ViCtOrY

[minor flame]

Oh well

[paper crag]

no gg tho

[stable wadi]

[forest wharf]

sigh...

[forest jungle]

rip

[vagrant niche]

NOT TODAY SHANGAI

[forest jungle]

Not ever SHD at this rate

[spring lintel]

fearless the fucking bot lost them that

[minor flame]

Lets hope they actually force themselves to adapt to the meta later in the stage

[reef imp]

EVERY GODDAMN TIME

[hazy arrow]

NOT TODAY SHANGAI

[vagrant niche]

@hazy arrow high five brotha 👋

[forest jungle]

fuck fearless, daemin

[vestal berry]

they just dont want to learn how to fight brig

[forest jungle]

Nope

[spring lintel]

couldnt he chill with the team

[limber umbra]

disappointment

[forest jungle]

they refuse to work with the meta

:/

[hazy arrow]

@vagrant niche 👋🏻

[vagrant niche]

I'm supper happy with the result

[forest jungle]

I waited two weeks to watch this?

[forest wharf]

[sullen berry]

there are still people who have betted on buying all shanghai dragons if they do win a match

and today is not that day

[tawny sigil]

pshhhh

[spring lintel]

diya breaking his back for their ass'

[vagrant niche]

FUEL BURN BLUE ALLA TILL MIG

[tawny sigil]

0-40

[hazy arrow]

r/cow on suicide watch

[sullen berry]

fusion it is

[fiery reef]

They lost because they refused to work around Brig. Now, if they repeat these mistakes this weekend. Its ENTIRELY on them.

[forest jungle]

I would've been fine with loss if they actually tried to work with and counter Brig

or did something about the new meta

[sullen berry]

1-39

[north beacon]

NYXL is basically the only team i like that wins when i want them to

[pearl stratus]

I mean if you didn't understand that once they said 1.22 that Dallas had the potential to do really well.

You're kinda dumb :/

[spring lintel]

diya and geguri played great, the rest are trSh.

[forest jungle]

Diya surprisingly did really well

[cedar basin]

ado too sometimes?

[forest wharf]

i just cant understand why no one could play brigitte

[forest jungle]

Ado went Genji against Brig

[fast basin]

So to all of you, who thought Shanghai would win

[forest jungle]

XD

[vagrant niche]

Geguri should had switched to Zarya on the last point like Monte said

but they didn't

[limber umbra]

diya doing well is not surprising

[fiery reef]

ADO was in 2 matches .. lost both of them, and was consistently getting countered by Brig. Not really.

[fast basin]

A Fuck to the You

[forest wharf]

its not fucking hard

[spring lintel]

diya hard carried them, like so fucking hard.

[reef imp]

You know what? I don't know why I try with this team. I am this close to packing it in.

[limber umbra]

he's one of the best widows in the leauge

[cedar basin]

dallas is garbo tho

[hidden vault]

aww looks like we need to wait for the mayhem vs dragon match

[minor flame]

@fast basin "to anyone cheering for a team they like, fuck you"

that is literally what youre saying

[fast basin]

Yes

[cedar basin]

beanbee

[vagrant niche]

MAYHEM GOING TO WIN TOO

[pearl stratus]

@cedar basin They're really not, for a meta like this.

[cedar basin]

why are you even talkin to him

[hidden vault]

Fearless did well too

[forest jungle]

@limber umbra no, no, I mean he hasn't been able to spread his wings so to speak so far in the league

[fast basin]

Exactly

[fiery reef]

Dallas is a trash team ... but they are still getting wins at least. sooo

[vagrant niche]

[forest jungle]

Just surprised he was the only one that was able to work with this meta

[forest wharf]

fealess stayed winston the entire brigitte filled game lol

[spring lintel]

fearless doing well until he threw and good push at the end

[forest wharf]

useless

[cedar basin]

they are the second worse team? just work around the meta and you're fine

[pearl stratus]

He didn't have to adapt at all @forest jungle

[frosty anvil]

I like watching Dallas. They're entertaining even if they don't win all the time

[pearl stratus]

He just played Widow.

[jagged crater]

Can't watch ATM, who played Brigitte for each team so far?

[forest jungle]

His flanks?

He usually doesn't do that

[fiery reef]

I really dislike florida though.. I dont like this idea of them embracing themselves as a "living meme team"

[minor flame]

The biggest thing now about Florida

is sayaplayer

kannagang lmao

[pearl stratus]

I expect Dallas will actually do relatively okay this stage.

[spring lintel]

every team that brig won right? val and Df

[vagrant fossil]

so boston vs philly play first on day 2 is philly gonna be running sado?

[hidden vault]

Mickie surprising did well with Brigitte

[forest jungle]

Dallas still can't get in playoffs though, I think

[pearl stratus]

Depends what comps they run.

[minor flame]

not in this season

[pearl stratus]

Sado is useless to them if they want to run a Rein comp.

[minor flame]

they have a slim chance of this stage

[forest wharf]

brigitte is easy as shit, pretty hard to do bad with her tbh

[spring lintel]

not a surprise, get a bot and he would be good with brig

[forest wharf]

^

[pearl stratus]

Fragi is a lot better than Sado at Rein.

[minor flame]

Except SHD doesnt even try to do anything with her

[vagrant niche]

Mickie is going to get POTM

[forest jungle]

lol

[jagged crater]

Think they have 0 chance to make playoffs

[vagrant niche]

YOU JUST WATCH

[frosty anvil]

@jagged crater Brig was first played by Bernie Sanders and then by Ajit Pai

[vagrant niche]

[fast basin]

Fearless Rein... 4-7 on Dorado, while OGE had 20-2

[fiery reef]

Depends what your up against. Its hard to be good with brig, if you are up against a good widow, or a team that tries to counter you.

[forest jungle]

SHD didn't want to touch Brig with 15ft pole apparently

[minor flame]

SHD couldve won, but heres the thing

Fearless is on the team

[jagged crater]

He's fearless

[vagrant niche]

BRENJI

[forest jungle]

lol

slippery Brenji

[jagged crater]

Lol

[frosty anvil]

NoFear™

[forest jungle]

Fearless against Brig as Winston

[minor flame]

Fearless and Coaches who said

Hey play dive

[vagrant niche]

MY GOD TAHT BOMB

and Oldmou came back to us

KICK TO DA FACE

[fiery reef]

Fearless has some amazing maps ... but he needs to learn to play something other than fucking Winston. If Winston isn't good against the team your fighting. SWITCH.

[pearl stratus]

Honestly though, for everyone who bitched about patches and stuff.

This was more entertaining to watch.

Since there was a lot of different stuff played all night.

[minor flame]

1.22 in its first days were pretty experimental

I enjoyed it at placements

1.23 is just

Hanzo hanzo hanzo

[forest jungle]

~_~

[forest wharf]

last couple games were interesting....this one was just depressing as per shanghai's usual

[forest jungle]

I like the change of meta

[pearl stratus]

At least he's getting his first nerf already.

[forest jungle]

Yup, agreed @forest wharf

[minor flame]

how to counter brig as rein

fearless flank

[forest jungle]

:/

[vagrant niche]

TOLD U SO

[spring lintel]

diya carried so hard but missed the easy shot that would have won them the round.

[vagrant niche]

[forest jungle]

Yeah, Mickie

-.-

[spring lintel]

he must be salty

[forest jungle]

Only cause he wasn't countered

[forest wharf]

how to play brigitte

[fiery reef]

Thats how I play her ... then I realize my team has 0 healers and somehow its my fault.

[vagrant niche]

don't matter, he deserved it

[spring lintel]

wait the match is over?

[vagrant niche]

GOOD JOB MICKIE

[minor flame]

yes

[pearl stratus]

Well dammit. Warframe forcing me to spend $50 by giving me a 75% off coupon. Rip.

[fiery reef]

Shanghai "Wait the match is over?" Dragons.

[spring lintel]

dont they play 4 maps ?

[forest jungle]

LOL

they did

[spring lintel]

ok i am blind'

[forest jungle]

I know last three was pretty much same

us all shouting

at fearless and daemin to switch

[frosty anvil]

@jagged crater to legit answer your question Mickie was playing Brigitte for Dallas and he was playing her right, so i wouldn't really consider the other team's brigitte choices just yet

[minor flame]

I personally think the combination of weaker maps and dive SHD in stage 4

[pearl stratus]

Bischu did well on her too.

[fiery reef]

Last 3 maps. "They should do something about that Brig" ... "They should really do something about Brig" ... "Uh, they planning to do something about Brig?"

[minor flame]

just fucked SHD over

[forest jungle]

SHD just refused to change their playstyle

You can possibly run dive if you were really well coordinated but..that wasn't the case

[fiery reef]

Ascusive AMA?

[forest jungle]

speaking of which, Boston game might be ineteresting

wonder if they'll refuse to change as well

[forest wharf]

honestly if shd goes 0-40 this stage they should just not come back to owl season 2, just fucking disband already

[pearl stratus]

Ado or Daemin are going to have to pick up Brig.

That's the long and short of it.

[fiery reef]

ADo did play brig

but once

and never again

[pearl stratus]

Daemin might end up being the better choice long term.

He's got a better Junkrat.

[minor flame]

If SHD manage to adapt to the meta the slightest

[forest jungle]

Not if he insists on playing Tracer

[minor flame]

they could actually win

[forest jungle]

Yeah.

[vagrant niche]

AAHHH YESSS

[forest jungle]

But it was kinda like watching my qp match tonight

[fiery reef]

Like .. all they had to do was play Brig... or actually counter her. And they had this.

[vagrant niche]

time to enjoy my salt on r/cow

[forest jungle]

with SHD

[vagrant niche]

good night everybody

[minor flame]

top 3 things Adrian gets off to

[vagrant niche]

it was fun meta

[minor flame]

Noctis

[vagrant niche]

to watch today

[minor flame]

DF

salt

[forest jungle]

lol

[vagrant niche]

LOL

[pearl stratus]

Taimou

[forest jungle]

I'm sure it was for you

XD

[forest wharf]

break the team up, swap geguri, ado, and diya to good teams and trash the rest

[vagrant niche]

good one

[pearl stratus]

He nuts over taimou too.

Which is weird.

[vagrant niche]

I love brigitta

ALLA TILL MIG

[forest jungle]

Most of us has five layer of salt right about now on our selves

[minor flame]

im not even salty im disappointed

[pearl stratus]

I don't, since I called this two days ago.

[forest jungle]

I'm saltily disappinted if that's even possible

[forest wharf]

im slightly triggered tbh

[pearl stratus]

The second it was Brigitte + No Junk/Hanzo nerfs I figured Dallas would be fine.

[frosty anvil]

whelp, ggs good hanging out, time to go play some MYSTERY HEROES

[pearl stratus]

Dallas, Houston, and London.

[forest jungle]

I'll probably watch one more SHD game

[pearl stratus]

Are my predictions of people who will use this meta really well right off the map.

[forest jungle]

if they do shit like this again, I'm out

[minor flame]

You think if SHD actually does rein zarya

theyll do decent

[forest jungle]

I think so.

If they do anyways

Rein, Zarya, Brig

and maybe junk or pharah

[pearl stratus]

I think they'll be fine, they just need to flush out the Brig and Ado needs to basically relearn a hero pool.

Ado really only had Tracer + Genji.

[minor flame]

The entire hero pool was meant for dive in SHD

[pearl stratus]

Acorn, you just keep Diya in.

[minor flame]

now they just get stomped on

[forest jungle]

Diya was fine

[balmy wolf]

geguri can 100% do zarya

[forest jungle]

even on his McCree

[pearl stratus]

You only run two DPS if one of them is covering Brigitte, basically.

[forest wharf]

Fuck me 99 owl coins

[balmy wolf]

i cant think of a consistent main tank to combo with

[forest jungle]

Geguri is mixed bag of emotion for me

I feel like she would've done better as Zarya than D.va but considering what rest of team was doing

I'm not so sure

[balmy wolf]

shes 100% amazing and consistent on off tanks but she needs a main tank to accomplish tasks with

[pearl stratus]

The secondary tank is a perfectly fine rotation between the two.

[forest jungle]

Yeah, that's what I mean

[pearl stratus]

You can run D'va with Rein or Winston atm from what I saw.

[minor flame]

Is Fearless worse on rein or winston though

[forest jungle]

While I wish she stayed on Zarya (and she's fine on her) I can't fault her too much

[balmy wolf]

sounds about right in ladder too

[forest jungle]

when Fearless flip flops all over

[pearl stratus]

And based on what Dallas was running I think the D'va was the smarter choice.

[forest jungle]

betwen Winston and Rein

[balmy wolf]

were dallas running high ground/dive heroes?

[minor flame]

Dva and Rein

[balmy wolf]

i.e. soldier, genji

[minor flame]

Brig

it was widow and mccree

[pearl stratus]

They were running mostly Widow and Junk.

[forest wharf]

Winston is just useless with brigitte

[balmy wolf]

hmm

[minor flame]

Mostly grounded

[balmy wolf]

winston wouldve been the better pick over dva there, but geguri is simply miles better at dva

[forest wharf]

Err against brigitte

[balmy wolf]

while keeping the rein

[pearl stratus]

Taimou did McCree a few times as well.

[forest jungle]

D.va just suffers great against Brig too

compared to Zarya

who can bubble herself or teammate

[pearl stratus]

Once Rally goes out, yes.

[forest jungle]

to get out of range

Though

[minor flame]

its pretty disappointing Blizz doesnt keep a steady rotation of patches between stages though

[pearl stratus]

The bigger issue is the Dive into D'va gets hurt once you get a consistent use of Rally.

[forest jungle]

SHd didn't have much hero to combo with Zarya grab

grav*

so maybe that's why

[pearl stratus]

Because it drops D'va damage to like 3 damage per pellet.

[forest jungle]

At least rest of the week's matches will be more interesting

[minor flame]

SHD just has all the odds against them in this stage

[forest jungle]

see how other teams adept to new meta

[minor flame]

London is facing NYXL this week yea?

[forest jungle]

Are they?

[minor flame]

London Twitter said it or something

[forest jungle]

Should be good watch

I'm personally looking forward to Fusion vs Uprising

both are my fav teams

and both were very dive heavy

[pearl stratus]

I think, overall, London will adopt the meta better but I don't know if it will be enough to get them the win.

[forest jungle]

want to see how they go about it

[pearl stratus]

I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing Pine + Libero though.

[minor flame]

I wondered how Uprising would adapt to the meta

[pearl stratus]

With Libero having picked up Brig.

[minor flame]

though now that I see

it feels like Brig only needs to be played in a map or two

[pearl stratus]

I'm thinking that if they were smart

Striker grinded Brigitte.,

[forest jungle]

Uprising is very methodical in their dive

I wouldn't be too surprised if they find a way to work dive against brig

[pearl stratus]

Though striker has the junk pool already.

So it could have gone to Mistakes.

[minor flame]

I think Uprising wont get another perfect type of stage

maybe a 8-2 or 7-3 though

[forest jungle]

Probably

[pearl stratus]

I wonder if Mistakes can play Zarya.

[forest jungle]

He might play more Sombra

[pearl stratus]

Because I could also see Note playing Brig.

[forest jungle]

Triple support?

[minor flame]

If his tracking is decent at Sombra it would probably transfer to Zar

[broken fog]

Guy

[minor flame]

but ofc his widow is not very good

[forest jungle]

Neko, Kellex, Note?

[broken fog]

I think shanghai has no idea

[pearl stratus]

Whenever Brig was run it was triple support, yeah.

She's really not effective enough to be a duo.

[forest jungle]

Even with Mercy?

[minor flame]

Triple Support but no sign of any teams actually bringing their 3 support mains

[forest jungle]

Hmmm

[pearl stratus]

Because then you can't swap on the fly.

[forest jungle]

Maybe they'll use Aimgod?

[minor flame]

AimGod is a pro mercy yes?

[pearl stratus]

It makes more sense for a DPS.

Because you can rotate per point.

[forest jungle]

True

[pearl stratus]

Also most hitscan dps are good at Zarya.

Or passable at least.

So you can have a hit scan go Zarya while your D'va goes Brig.

And swap them back when necessary.

[broken fog]

I think shanghai need disbanded

[forest jungle]

Interested in seeing Gamsu with Rein or other tank

[broken fog]

they have no idea

[minor flame]

Maybe or maybe not theyll disband

[forest jungle]

He's always played Winston or Orisa

[pearl stratus]

He'll probably Rein.

[minor flame]

this is pocket change to the company that owns them

[pearl stratus]

It's also only season 1.

Which arguably doesn't matter.

[minor flame]

and the company that owns them is the one distributing the blizz games

SHD will probably just be reformed

[forest jungle]

If SHD has this many fans at the end of season despite no wins, they likely won't disband

[minor flame]

with chinese pros that actually have recognition

[forest jungle]

In the end, they just want profit

[minor flame]

Though SHD will lose fans by the end of this

[pearl stratus]

The Chinese contenders team did well, so who knows.

[minor flame]

due to them not getting a win

[forest jungle]

Without a single win, yeah

they'll lose fans

they probably lost quite a few after tonight

[pearl stratus]

The Koreans brought them more fans, ironically.

[broken fog]

just form a new team

[pearl stratus]

When it should have gone the other way.

[broken fog]

like nyxl..

[forest jungle]

Geguri brought them ton of fans

[pearl stratus]

Nah not just Geguri.

Ado, and Fearless.

[broken fog]

I want to say

[pearl stratus]

Regardless of his play Fearless is still eye candy to girls.

[broken fog]

Chinese ow in a nutshell

[minor flame]

As a Chinese person and a person living in Florida for all my life, im pretty sad with the teams I have

[forest jungle]

Is he?

I don't know

[pearl stratus]

He looks like a K-drama actor lowkey.

[forest jungle]

Eh

I guess I'm not the one to judge since I'm not a girl.

[minor flame]

Surprised, Effect has to go through loss after loss though not winless

and he gets mentally shat on

[forest jungle]

And always thought young Genji looked better than young Hanzo whatnot

[minor flame]

though SHD is still enjoying their time

though maybe Effect is just more vulnerable to this whole mental grind consequence

[pearl stratus]

My general idea is that Shanghai still has growth room.

[forest jungle]

~.~

[pearl stratus]

I don't personally think there's a lot of room for growth for Dallas.

This is a very comfortable meta for them.

It's not taxing or learning.

[forest jungle]

I like Dallas though.

[pearl stratus]

It's stuff they're already good at.

[forest jungle]

I just really wanted SHD to win

[minor flame]

Dallas has some enjoyable people

[forest jungle]

Mickie and Seagull ❤

[pearl stratus]

EnvyUS was always insane at that triple tank bruiser meta, so this wasn't even remotely surprising to me.

But if you don't know that, you'd think Shanghai had a better chance to win.

[minor flame]

Unfortunately for me

[forest jungle]

That makes sense

[minor flame]

I never watched any pro OW before this

[waxen rampart]

my hope is gone

if they lost to fuel here there's nothing left

[forest jungle]

Though I was hoping bit more from SHD

even if they lost

[minor flame]

Not exactly hopeless

but ok

[forest jungle]

it's less about lack of win

[pearl stratus]

Like if you look at when they played South Korea, they did well with bruisers.

[forest jungle]

it's more about just flailing around

[pearl stratus]

Because back then they still couldn't play dive.

[forest jungle]

Hmmm

Could be interesting for them this meta then

[waxen rampart]

they play mayhem in week 4

[forest jungle]

Funny how Effect is gone when the meta suits their team

[waxen rampart]

that's the only other game they might win

[minor flame]

I personally dont think Effect will come back to DF this stage

theres no need to, and its probably best for his health

[forest jungle]

I don't think so either

Seems like dude's stressed out to max

he probably needs the time

[minor flame]

Effect is the hardest working person on the team so this meta coincidentally saved DF

[forest jungle]

I'm sure he's at least happy his team didn't lose to SHD while he was gone