esports-discussion

[vagrant niche]

you saw that combo?

with infrasight?

[vestal berry]

That infrasight combo

Aww so nice

[heady idol]

weirdest valiant draft rn

[opaque cargo]

Valiant probably could have pushed through with brigball, collapse forward center and go left through the cart ride

[brisk roost]

Valiant is throwing apparently

[opaque cargo]

They just don't have the cohesion they need to

[brisk roost]

Smh

[heady idol]

lmao

agilities

[opaque cargo]

They have the right idea but the wrong heroes

[vestal berry]

Munchkin got it

Damn

[opaque cargo]

JESUS

Munchkin killing the tire with LMB

[brisk roost]

Finally

But yo they lost a huge amount of time there

[vestal berry]

That is still an excellent hold

[onyx shore]

agilities got rekt again

[brisk roost]

Lol

[onyx shore]

in n out ep2 here we go

[vestal berry]

Why have I never stood on that gun?

[coarse willow]

honestly gg my dudes

[brisk roost]

Damn they're throwing smh

[coarse willow]

if seoul 4-0 this game ill buy a seoul jersey

they are going 10-0 this stage

[vestal berry]

Fleta died only once right?

[heady idol]

wow savage rope joke

[onyx shore]

fleta is 25-1

[coarse willow]

honestly 4-0 incoming

[brisk roost]

Yeah Valiant is throwing yo

I dunno wtf is going on

LOL

[onyx shore]

[warped axle]

Interesting meta...

[coarse willow]

they arent throwing

seoul is just good now

this is the stage bois

[vagrant niche]

@brisk roost They are not throwing, Fleta is just meta

[warped axle]

It's like both teams are scared of each other pulling put Brigitte

[solar trout]

yeah cause brig is scary

;-;

[coarse willow]

nah

valiant tried brig

[brisk roost]

@vagrant niche It's both lol. I dunno what the hell was Valiant doing tbh

[coarse willow]

still got rolled

[solar trout]

Pharah is good vs brig

[brisk roost]

Valiant like have no idea how to counter

[vagrant niche]

also, Brigitta is OP btw

[coarse willow]

seoul is too good for valiant

[warped axle]

Valiant has no superstar DPS

[coarse willow]

10-0 stage 4

[warped axle]

SoOn is,not cutting it

[solar trout]

effect is not playing this stage, right?

[onyx shore]

nope

[solar trout]

rip

[vagrant niche]

@warped axle you don't need a dps superstar, you just pick Brigitta and hold LMB 4Head

[warped axle]

LMB? M1 dude

[vagrant niche]

Left mouse button

[warped axle]

Mouse 1

M1

[balmy wolf]

Blizzard where are my tokens 😠

rip

[heady idol]

nice >100k viewers now

[north tendon]

brig z tier

[solar trout]

jehong winston

ok

[rare sonnet]

did some guy just post his work schedule in the chat? 😂

[forest wharf]

Lul who needs brigette

[vagrant niche]

everybody, cause apparently if you don't' pick her, you are putting yourself at a huge disadvantage

[rapid bobcat]

104k + views

105k

[heady idol]

soon is awake now

Pogchamp

[ruby pendant]

Did Dragons play yet?

[rapid bobcat]

[ruby pendant]

just came

[rapid bobcat]

JUST LIKE A BUTTER KNIFE LUUUULLL

[heady idol]

Dragons is after this

[ruby pendant]

@heady idol Thanks, been waiting for that game

[raven badger]

dafuq? that woman is wearing a seoul hat but seems to be cheering for valiant....

[ruby pendant]

Thought I might have missed it!

[heady idol]

same I'm so freaking excited for it

SHD SHD SHD

[ruby pendant]

haha, appreciate the Dragons love. May they get their 1st win!!

People will be too hype!

[heady idol]

wtf Seoul

[balmy wolf]

seoul pls

[ruby pendant]

LOL

[paper crag]

tonight is the night

i really hoped it'd be a different team though

a team good enough that you can't just go "weeellllll, it IS Dallas....."

we'll see if DF got their act together under their new coach

[balmy wolf]

true

[ruby pendant]

you want Excelsior?!

[paper crag]

and continue their whole "DF is actually an okay team during week one" gimmick

[balmy wolf]

but i dont think a new coach can improve much...

[ruby pendant]

haha

[wind eagle]

Also lil Caesars near lisa is finding people

[paper crag]

well i was hoping something like Fusion

it did go to game 5

[coarse willow]

we got thisss

[ruby pendant]

true

[coarse willow]

3-1 lets go

[paper crag]

would have been amazing if they got it

or SFS

[balmy wolf]

Okay real talk, Shanghai 1-30 today?

[paper crag]

somewhere around that tier

[ruby pendant]

All the teams have gotten a lot better recently

[coarse willow]

real talk

no

xd

0-31 today

[ruby pendant]

Dragons especially, they should at least win one game

[balmy wolf]

oof

[paper crag]

real talk maybe

but not definitely

[ruby pendant]

Effect is not playing right?

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[paper crag]

no effect

for stage 4

[balmy wolf]

yeah

hes done for this season

[paper crag]

who's playing tracer?

[balmy wolf]

akm

[paper crag]

akm or seagull?

[balmy wolf]

probs

[paper crag]

ah okay

[ruby pendant]

lol

[balmy wolf]

maybe taimou will activate this stage

i dunn

[paper crag]

idk. i'm probably just not giving akm enough credit but i feel like seagull can probably play every hero except soldier better than akm

[fiery reef]

Watching Fleta's widow always makes me sad that I'll never be that good

[balmy wolf]

seagull doesn't play tracer

[ruby pendant]

@fiery reef get a coach

[paper crag]

even then he's probably better

[balmy wolf]

i've never seen seagull play widow either

[ruby pendant]

there's nothing you can't do!

[paper crag]

👌

[fiery reef]

lol, whose gonna pay me so I can play this enough to actually do it

[balmy wolf]

in fact i've seen seagull play every hero except for tracer, widowmaker, and mercy

on streams

not in the league

obvs

[paper crag]

i'm pretty sure seagull is a better mercy than akm

[balmy wolf]

kek

[paper crag]

lol

[ruby pendant]

@fiery reef that's life

Got to take risks!

Invest some cash, you may make it out big

[paper crag]

what is othinus gonna do?

[ruby pendant]

or become homeless

[paper crag]

buy in for OWL team slot?

can i be your head coach that gets all the blame

[ruby pendant]

@paper crag would be amazing if that's the case

[paper crag]

and then jump ship to the other team from the same state

i think kyky went to houston

right?

[vagrant niche]

yes officially he is now

[paper crag]

so tonight's DF roster is probably gonna be like....
AKM/Taimou
Seagull
Mickie
OGE
Unkoe
Harryhook/Chipshajen

right?

watch cocco replace OGE

no moar koreans in DF

[waxen rampart]

tonight's roster is gonna be
Effect
Effect
Effect
Effect
Effect
Effect

[frosty anvil]

OH man, 10 minutes feels like forever haha

I wanted to mention - not seeing a lot of brigitte - is she really that ineffective at high level competitive? (i'm a scrub, i wouldn't know)

Also, Mystery heroes tie breaker plz haha

[zealous thistle]

why is munchkin so underperfoming?

[paper crag]

watch them win too. Koreans have been the problem all along

I wonder which teams Rascal and Effect will end up in

[balmy wolf]

Effect on Houston would be poggers

[heady idol]

that'd be scary

[onyx shore]

nah

kick munchkin

bring effect to dynasty

[paper crag]

munchkin joins houston

balance is restored

[heady idol]

the brig is in

[paper crag]

so is jehong main tank official

[onyx shore]

wtf is munchkin doing

[paper crag]

miro overrated jehong activated we all jehongbaited?

[ruby pendant]

glad to see some brigitte

[paper crag]

is this the first time brig saw playtime tonight?

[frosty anvil]

maybe to surprise but mostly to hide from fleta i think

[heady idol]

we've seen some

[ruby pendant]

@paper crag not sure came late

[heady idol]

in the first game, maps 1 and 2

[paper crag]

yeah i came around the end of map 2 lol

oh okay

[ruby pendant]

would have loved to see that

[raven badger]

Seoul getting raped right now

[paper crag]

lol seoul

[heady idol]

wtf

[north tendon]

lol

[heady idol]

couldn't even break the choke

[paper crag]

Korean overdose is becoming a real thing

[vagrant niche]

that was domination

[ruby pendant]

@heady idol lol

[paper crag]

all Korean outdated meta

now you have to get the best mix

[brisk roost]

MAP 3 ALREADY?! WTF

[paper crag]

multilingual meta is now

SHD OP

[balmy wolf]

All these maps are going really fast

[heady idol]

brig vs non-brig

let's see how OP

nvm they swapped out

[paper crag]

yeah lol

[frosty anvil]

i feel like maybe they just haven't practiced with her enough to make the change effective

[vagrant niche]

FLETA so gooooood

[opaque cargo]

the lack of brig is weird

this is a good map to ball on

[heady idol]

maybe she's just not that good

[frosty anvil]

and pharah is a pain for brig, and we have pretty good pharahs here

[opaque cargo]

I think she is, I think Valiant is just afraid

Low ceilings majorly restrict pharah

[forest wharf]

or because fuck brigitte

[brisk roost]

STOP SCREAMING NOOOOO

[opaque cargo]

the trick is they need the rally shield cheese to get the oomph

[balmy wolf]

What is this Blizzard, I'm owed at least five tokens, why you only giving me one 😠

[frosty anvil]

@brisk roost what if you forgot the safe word?

[opaque cargo]

so if you flap back and forth you lose a significant part of yeet's value

[brisk roost]

@frosty anvil What is it again

[ruby pendant]

Zunba a good Zarya

[paper crag]

high energy zarya so scary

[ruby pendant]

yea

[frosty anvil]

@brisk roost i forget

[ruby pendant]

Charging so fast

[brisk roost]

Oh lol

[paper crag]

what just happened with zunba grav?

[north tendon]

is this real life

[paper crag]

that was the most underwhelming grav i've seen him throw

[north tendon]

so many heroes

[forest wharf]

brigitte ate it

[paper crag]

oh snap did it get canceled?

cancelled*

[forest wharf]

probably

[paper crag]

yeah i didn't even see it

i just saw his ult gauge go to 0

[heady idol]

OMG

[opaque cargo]

aaaand brigitte just walks through a grav

[ruby pendant]

wow

[vagrant niche]

such a good meta

[brisk roost]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

[frosty anvil]

that was intense. finally a close match haha

[heady idol]

holy shit

[vagrant niche]

so many switches

[heady idol]

that was fucking GREAT

[vagrant niche]

so freaking hype

[north tendon]

what a game

[forest wharf]

NOT ENOUGH BUTTER AND TOO MUCH BREAD

[brisk roost]

LETS GO VALIANT

[coarse willow]

annnnd now theyre throwing lmao

[warped axle]

Kick Gido off the fucking team

[opaque cargo]

Valiant went hella hard

[coarse willow]

nah its just control points

[opaque cargo]

Agilities with that angled barrage was nuts

[brisk roost]

HOLY CRAP

[coarse willow]

control points are not a thing seoul are good at

[brisk roost]

I don't care if this goes to map 5 tbh

[north tendon]

jeff was right bois

[heady idol]

"WANGS OUT, WANGS OUT, WANGS OUT... wait"

[coarse willow]

ill take the 3-2

[ruby pendant]

Seoul?

with 3

[forest wharf]

i just want to see shanghai finally get a win

[warped axle]

Gido with the hardest throw I've ever seen

[north tendon]

geguri zarya will lead them to victory

[frosty anvil]

@north tendon what, that brigitte is balanced but storm arrow is too powerful for comp?

[balmy wolf]

S O U R S W E E T G O N E

[north tendon]

he said the new hero will be meta changing

we're seeing a lot of diversity so far

I like it

[balmy wolf]

I thought they're playing this patch because there's a bug that apparently causes game crashes in 1.23?

[ruby pendant]

@north tendon did they give a role to the hero?

Offensive, tank, etc?

[north tendon]

he meant brigitte

before release

[frosty anvil]

it is certainly shaking things up.

[forest wharf]

better than all dive all the time, but also...stun stun stun stun stun stun stun

[ruby pendant]

k

[frosty anvil]

brigitte seems to fall into support / off-tank

change my mind

[north tendon]

not really, they try to respect the space

she was made as a hybrid

[vagrant niche]

@frosty anvil she's an offtank

[opaque cargo]

Yeah that's the point of brigitte, she's support off tank

[north tendon]

thats the idea

[opaque cargo]

like zen is support DPS

[vagrant niche]

you never see her on support role

at least not yet

and i doubt we'll see solo heal brigitta on junkertown

[north tendon]

shes like hog

tank and dps but shes healer/tank

[opaque cargo]

The stun is far and away the most frustrating part of her kit and ironically it's proving to be the least useful in OWL

[sullen berry]

Brigitte > Zen for offensive CP

[ruby pendant]

zen better

maybe they close

[opaque cargo]

Been saying this a lot but nerf bash stun, buff whip shot damage at long range (70 at point blank > 140 at max range, linear scaling)

[frosty anvil]

depends on if you need the range or not IMO

[north tendon]

she thrives on uncoordinated teams

[vagrant niche]

there is nothing to nerf

she's fine

[north tendon]

which is why shes a lot stronger on ladder

[vagrant niche]

people just got to learn how to play vs her

[opaque cargo]

Better counter to Tracer, less raw power against uncoordinated teams

[north tendon]

her ptr nerfs are fine

imo

[forest wharf]

lul outlaws dont like tracer

[night notch]

i just bought my tickets for the final in NYC 😄 😄

[frosty anvil]

best idea i heard to "fix" her was to move the push effect to the shield bash and the stun to the whip

[north tendon]

nice!!!

[heady idol]

she's a great pub stomper

[night notch]

i'm soooo excited i never thought i'd get to go watch cause it's always in LA

[ruby pendant]

@night notch watch at home!

you a traitor

[heady idol]

she crushes uncoordinaed groups. Like symmetra, you're never going to see sym in pro play (until they rework her tho)

[paper crag]

so which role plays brigitte? is she gonna be played by a DPS or tank?

[frosty anvil]

grats man! Jealous! @night notch

[worn hornet]

looked like it was a dps

[night notch]

thanks :D!!

[heady idol]

atm dps players pick her

[paper crag]

ah okay

[night notch]

i'm wondering if they sell drinks at the stadium or if i should just like, hit the bar hard before i go lol

[forest wharf]

kinda dps/healer with a shield

[ruby pendant]

you can order

at Barclays center

they have app I think

[paper crag]

more than anything, i think it was fresh to NOT see a dva for an entire map

[night notch]

YEAH BOIIII

[ruby pendant]

There's other centers around there as well

[paper crag]

at least i don't think lijiang had dva

[opaque cargo]

Brigitte is so much worse than sym because any hero that doesn't explicitly outrange her (junkrat, pharah, widow, hanzo) physically can't defeat her solo, it's even worse than hog because at least hog you can shoot in the head

[vestal berry]

Not seeing everything being eaten is nice

[opaque cargo]

This of course doesn't matter at an OWL level

because the game isn't played solo at an OWL level

but queue is such a different beast

[north tendon]

you either burst the shield down or poke from different angles

or pick off others

[vagrant niche]

or play junkrat and pharmecy

[heady idol]

I don't disagree, but it's not unlke things I've seen in other games like League and Dota, they always had pub stompers, some heroes in dota had near 70% win rate on ladder, but it didn't really matter cuz icefrog balances for pro play and they were fine in pro play because pub stompers are garbage against coordinated stacks

[opaque cargo]

it makes it hell to be main tank because your job is to be dead center

you become a DPS main, or you don't climb

[ruby pendant]

Brigitte cancels ults so easily! Think that's what gets people upset.

[north tendon]

you just have to play further back

[heady idol]

It's pretty fun to MT if you had a brig friend to queue with to set u up

[balmy wolf]

@opaque cargo but its a teamgame and it doesnt matter how strong a hero is solo, it matters how strong he/she is in a team setting

[opaque cargo]

if you play further back, you don't get on the point

[north tendon]

win the team fight, then get on the point

[heady idol]

jebaited

lul

[north tendon]

its not a dive

[opaque cargo]

Brigitte in a pro context is turning up to be quite all right but she's such a pain without a team working in concert

[forest wharf]

tbh im still super salty about the ult charge loss on death nerf from a while back

[raven badger]

why do OWL players still fall for the classic "JR trap+mine outside spawn"

[heady idol]

holy shit that was a fast tire

[north tendon]

no one is safe from junk bs

[paper crag]

at least brig not being op in OWL context means we don't get people trying to recreate OWL moments with her

[north tendon]

junkrat wasnt nerfed yet too either right

in this patch

[night notch]

yeah what patch is OWL on right now?

there's still no storm arrow right

[paper crag]

space with the ballsy cover

[heady idol]

omg that space play

what a badasss

[north tendon]

its like the first brig patch

idk

just short lived

[paper crag]

i wonder how the hell they even managed to cause a bug where a player drops out and be unable to rejoin though

[onyx shore]

they are a small indie company

[north tendon]

seeing as owl is its own patch

[onyx shore]

don't expect too much

[heady idol]

seoul back

2-2???

[paper crag]

i mean, it IS its own patch, but the patches are hero patches

[north tendon]

the spawn on this map is so bad

[onyx shore]

we can't even spectate the game with the game client

[paper crag]

unless they wanted more UI patches or something

[opaque cargo]

aaaand brig without brigball, let's see how this turns out

[paper crag]

i feel like OW is less esports-ready than Dota was in its second year or something

dota 2, that is

[onyx shore]

well

pro scene already existed in dota 1 days

you can;t compare that

[north tendon]

remember when shadder said brig works as any role and has no downsides?

lmao

[paper crag]

ehh i think it's comparable

[onyx shore]

but i agree that overwatch is not esport ready

[opaque cargo]

yep, that went poorly

[vagrant niche]

Jkong got stunned twice

[paper crag]

i'm not really comparing the scene itself

[vagrant niche]

YET they won the map

see

Brigitta not op

[coarse willow]

COME ONNN

WE GOT THIS

3-2

[paper crag]

more about how well a game is made to accommodate the esport

[opaque cargo]

"Support hero can't 1v6, balanced"

[north beacon]

god damn twitch chat is the worst

[heady idol]

so angry

that your preconviced notions aren't coming true

[north beacon]

enemy team dead so can't contest "C9 LUL"

[vestal berry]

I'm super glad to see that brig isn't dominating pro play

But is still played

[north tendon]

this community really loves to circlejerk so quickly for some reason

its like unique opinions barely exist

[ruby pendant]

lol went to get something to eat

[onyx shore]

nah

[ruby pendant]

game already over

[onyx shore]

that's reddit in a nutshell

[paper crag]

game released in 2016 with the intention of making such an esport scene that they hope to change the history of esports doesn't support in game spectating? come on...

[onyx shore]

^

[night notch]

unique and unpopular opinion: tracer has a nice butt

[north beacon]

i don't get why people even comment in big twitch streams

[vagrant niche]

why would she be dominating when she's never been op? it's been your normal doomday that always happens when something new comes in

[north tendon]

if new hanzo was in

[onyx shore]

@paper crag well tbh,they are on top of hero shooter genre now,nothing else in the same genre comes close

[north tendon]

they would pin it on brig

[onyx shore]

this obviously cause complacency

[paper crag]

does CSGO have some kind of ingame spectating?

[north tendon]

BRIG OP

[vagrant niche]

i hardly saw any complain about hanzo till recently, it was just Moira hate and Brigitta took the torch

[north tendon]

JSUT SWITCH

[paper crag]

OW is the first FPS esport I've watched

[vagrant niche]

well whatever

[paper crag]

so idk if this is kind of forgivable

[vagrant niche]

complainers can deal with it, i don't care, I'm glad i was right

lets enjoy these games

[paper crag]

although i think a company like Blizz should be the one to break such technical barriers if they do exist

[balmy wolf]

people have been complaining since day one about storm bow since it went live

[heady idol]

csgo has in-client spectating, it's because they are using the source engine, same as dota, and dota has in-client specatting

[frosty anvil]

my only complaint about the experience is when two teams with really similar colors play each other it becomes really hard to tell them apart

[onyx shore]

1.no in game spectating
2.no working reporting system

[balmy wolf]

report system works decently

[heady idol]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

[vestal berry]

Tbh, csgo client spectating is pretty bad, crosshairs never line up where they belong

[balmy wolf]

but not if you expect everyone you report tog et banned permanently

[heady idol]

really? That's a shame. DotaTV (the inclient spectating) is amazing for pro play

I only watch it thru the game

[onyx shore]

yeah,because "decently" is good enough for this game

[paper crag]

yeah

dota is a prime example of in-game spectating, although it is a different genre

[balmy wolf]

no report system is going to change the mentality of the players, blame blizzard all you want but in the end its us that ruin the game

[onyx shore]

look at this spectating experience

240m league btw

[frosty anvil]

Y'know what i hate about professional football? Not being able to watch it from the player's perspective /s

[onyx shore]

esport is not sport

[north tendon]

FEELS GOOD

[onyx shore]

briggite

[heady idol]

Brig Onshot

[onyx shore]

lmao

[heady idol]

lyl

[balmy wolf]

i think the big thing holding back the viewing xeperience is visual clutter

[onyx shore]

so basically

[paper crag]

i think traditional sports are easier to appreciate when you watch how their whole body moves

[onyx shore]

seoul is doing waht SFS did

[balmy wolf]

teamfights are such a clusterfuck you have no idea whats going on half the time

[heady idol]

lol fleta invisible

[paper crag]

esports skills are easier to appreciate when you watch from player's perspective

[north tendon]

LOL

[brisk roost]

LOL

[opaque cargo]

NERF THIS

[onyx shore]

enemy runs brigitte? let's stay on our not working comp

[north tendon]

that was actually very smart from agilities

[heady idol]

holy shit that D.Va Bomb

[opaque cargo]

that D.Va bomb was too fantastic

[brisk roost]

Space is insane bruh

[paper crag]

who has more time?

ah nvm

they moved on pretty quickly

[onyx shore]

well,let's just finish this game so we can watch dragons vs fuel early

[brisk roost]

Exactly

This game went fast yo

[paper crag]

okay, real talk though

if DF plays mega shitty today and SHD wins, would you guys count it as SHD win?

[onyx shore]

yes

[brisk roost]

Yes

A win is still a win

[heady idol]

I still say yes

[paper crag]

like DF plays SOOOOOO shitty that it's like a 1 hr 4-0

[onyx shore]

last stage the only team fuel can beat is only SHD

[brisk roost]

That's their fault tbh

[onyx shore]

if shd win this

then they are equal

[paper crag]

at this point, being equal to DF is probably an insult lol

[onyx shore]

i still think fuel have 60%+ chance of winning tho

[north tendon]

AAAH

[paper crag]

no effect though

[onyx shore]

@paper crag well SHD is clearly worst than fuel

[brisk roost]

CANT DEFLECT THAT FLETA LUL

[onyx shore]

for the past 3 stages

[brisk roost]

LETS GOOOOO

[north tendon]

THIS IS SO FUN

[paper crag]

i think by the end of stage 3, SHD>DF

[north tendon]

NEW COMPS

[rare sonnet]

why does deflect block melee

[paper crag]

but DF always does okay in week 1 somehow

[onyx shore]

well,that depends on how SHD develops their comms

[paper crag]

and SHD has always played DF early

[onyx shore]

i still think DF is stronger,team-wise

[paper crag]

that contributes to SHD never winning against DF yet, I think

[rare sonnet]

DF is very predictable so you just watch their week 1 vods to be prepared for the whole stage

[onyx shore]

individually,no

[coarse willow]

TAKE MY ENERGY SEOUL

TAKE IT

[paper crag]

watch DF somehow mesh like a real team today without effect

[rare sonnet]

DF without Effect is like Argentina without Messi

[brisk roost]

Or FC Barcelona without Messi

[rare sonnet]

you sure about that? lol

[brisk roost]

Real Madrid without Ronaldo

[opaque cargo]

Dallas Fuel without effect is Dallas Empty Tank

[onyx shore]

look at DF's record each stage

stage 1 3-7

[ruby pendant]

@brisk roost lol

[paper crag]

that's why it'd be mysterious, unexpected, and hilarious if DF somehow played better without effect

[onyx shore]

stage 2 2-8

stage 3 1-9

no they wont

[rare sonnet]

Effect is an S-tier player on 11th place team

[paper crag]

oh snap

DF stage 4 0-10 incoming?

[onyx shore]

well,depends if they can beat SHD or not

[rare sonnet]

Real madrid without ronaldo and Barcelona without messi are still top teams

[onyx shore]

i think they can

so at least they will get 1 win this stage

[paper crag]

i believe in shd

[north tendon]

!!

[paper crag]

TRUST

[rare sonnet]

i want seoul to win

putting jehong on tank made me like the team

they became interesting

[brisk roost]

Who do you think Dallas would beat if not Shanghai?

[paper crag]

so has miro played at all today?

[onyx shore]

because jehong on main tank is better than taimou on winston

[paper crag]

or has it been jehong all day

[onyx shore]

even tho it's kinda weird

because they have kuki and miiro

[heady idol]

it's been jehong

[opaque cargo]

damn, munchkin with the ado pulse

[paper crag]

miro outdated jehong activated?

jehongbaited?

[rare sonnet]

Dallas could beat Philadelphia

[heady idol]

SOON LOL

POGCHAMP

[paper crag]

LETS GOOOO

SHD vs DF NOW

[brisk roost]

SHD VS DF NOW

LETS GO

PLS

[paper crag]

FINISH THIS

[opaque cargo]

Agil is keeping the pressure up

[heady idol]

lol

[paper crag]

ugh

[north tendon]

woah

[opaque cargo]

Alas, NA blade

[brisk roost]

CMOOOOOOOONNNNN

[ruby pendant]

nice

[brisk roost]

CMOOOOOOONN PLSS

[paper crag]

munchkin fuck off

[onyx shore]

NA blade lmao

[paper crag]

let me watch SHD vs DF

[rare sonnet]

this game is worth so much money

omg

[opaque cargo]

BIG MONEY BOIS

[balmy wolf]

wtf

vali is leading

[paper crag]

lol this chaos

[balmy wolf]

seoul tf u doin

[paper crag]

well not anymore

[onyx shore]

welp

munchkin carried

[coarse willow]

FGEKLMSWGHDJSAG

DS

AF

[north tendon]

he got another pulse

[coarse willow]

DSA

YESSSS

[ruby pendant]

Sweet!!!

[brisk roost]

SMH

[balmy wolf]

damn

[vagrant niche]

map 5 lets go bois

[coarse willow]

MY FUCKING HEART

[frosty anvil]

wow, pulled it off

[rare sonnet]

DAMN

[balmy wolf]

those screams tho

[paper crag]

tiebreakers should be team deathmatch race to 20 kills

[onyx shore]

munchkin clutched the map

[paper crag]

1 round

[raven badger]

Every team except the bottom 3(DF, SHD, and Florida) have a chance for the final playoffs so... it makes sense everyone is fighting right now

[heady idol]

I really wanted LAV to win there, but this is a great match

[brisk roost]

Wow

[opaque cargo]

seoul going fierce

[brisk roost]

They fucking choked smh

[cerulean plume]

Clutch

[grizzled trout]

MY SEOUL :D

[rare sonnet]

$85k PUSH

[frosty anvil]

@balmy wolf they individually mic the audience /s

[warped axle]

This is really,entertaining

[balmy wolf]

ah

no wonder

[warped axle]

So many mindgames

[paper crag]

wait, why is it worth that much money?

[balmy wolf]

they playing 4d chess

[grizzled trout]

Im shaking rn

[paper crag]

does a lot hang on this match?

[north tendon]

yes

[ruby pendant]

Dynasty got destroyed in control though

[vagrant niche]

because Bunny?

[ruby pendant]

Not sure if they'll win map 5

[balmy wolf]

bc seoul wants to make it to playoffs

[rare sonnet]

@paper crag only two competitive teams for season playoffs in PAcific region, they're fighting for the 1st place BYE on pacific region

[brisk roost]

Bunny is a one trick

[paper crag]

does this match decide top 4 at the moment

[brisk roost]

Don't sub him in

[paper crag]

ah okay

[coarse willow]

nepal is seouls strongest control map i think

or oasis

[warped axle]

Bunny would get obliterated

[paper crag]

oh wait what? route 66?

[torpid charm]

first map 5 of stage 4

[brisk roost]

Wait why is map 5 r66?

[grizzled trout]

Map 5 says route 66

[heady idol]

uhh I thought they said nepal

[paper crag]

i guess tiebreakers aren't necessarily control anymore

[torpid charm]

someone fucked up

[paper crag]

oh did they say nepal

[vagrant niche]

yeah i thought it was nepal too

[torpid charm]

no it is Nepal

[paper crag]

k i assume someone screwed up

[opaque cargo]

eyy

[warped axle]

It's Nepal

[paper crag]

fixed lol

[opaque cargo]

jetpack cat music

[rare sonnet]

@paper crag this match MAY decide what pacific team goes through

[frosty anvil]

yeah, Route 66 in nepal. right next to the burger king

[brisk roost]

Lmfao

[torpid charm]

the mistakes

[warped axle]

[fiery reef]

booo game 5. Give us SHD

[paper crag]

@torpid charm the dreams

[frosty anvil]

[brisk roost]

[torpid charm]

@paper crag LMAO

[ruby pendant]

Dynasty!!

[fiery reef]

[sullen berry]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ProudNaiveFriesDancingBanana?tt_medium=create

[coarse willow]

[sullen berry]

NA Production

[brisk roost]

[coarse willow]

im actually shaking rn

[brisk roost]

Me too bro

[rare sonnet]

wth was that NA production

[torpid charm]

hopefully I get to see my new best friend, Sado, play tomorrow

[coarse willow]

this game is worth $90k

[limpid estuary]

What was the song playing

DUring that break

[frosty anvil]

take your meds @coarse willow

[fiery reef]

[rare sonnet]

how does that happen lol

[paper crag]

[brisk roost]

Is Sado playing tomorrow?

[limpid estuary]

It sounded like Binding of isaac

But I know it has to be OW

[sullen berry]

@limpid estuary we honestly have no idea, it's been in the OW release Cinematics

[fiery reef]

Binding of Junkrat

[paper crag]

i think it's from Recall

when dr winston talks to winston?

[rare sonnet]

Why doesn't OWL have draws even though its a league format

[sullen berry]

mhmmm

[limpid estuary]

I should rewatch that

[torpid charm]

@brisk roost not that I know of yet, I really hope so. he's excited to play

[limpid estuary]

But I dont think so

[paper crag]

yeah idk then

[brisk roost]

Ohh okay

[sullen berry]

@rare sonnet map differential

[paper crag]

but i'd assume it's from a short

[limpid estuary]

Nah, you're right

Recall

[paper crag]

unless it's actually just something completely new

[sullen berry]

@paper crag nice one

[rare sonnet]

@sullen berry but why do you need to do a map 5 apart from following american sports trends

[north beacon]

i just want this to end so i can watch dragons

[paper crag]

whoo

^

[ruby pendant]

we all waiting

[rare sonnet]

why not just have a draw

[sullen berry]

@rare sonnet they just can. you could too with our ow league and see how that format goes

[fiery reef]

God this is getting so old already, seeing brig on both teams EVERY map.

[opaque cargo]

Full Brigball from valiant, this is probably not the place to run it

[frosty anvil]

because they aren't very good artists

[north tendon]

see?

[paper crag]

the only match I allow to continue to map 5 is DF vs SHD

[sullen berry]

3-2 map differential than 2-2 gives teams more leverage as to whom has the upper hand

[rare sonnet]

@fiery reef lol

[paper crag]

and SHD winning is the only result i allow

[opaque cargo]

confused travolta

best meme

[vagrant niche]

is this the patch with nerfed Zen?

[paper crag]

i think so

[rare sonnet]

@opaque cargo This map is good for rein

[opaque cargo]

Ye but this particular Nepal sub-map has a lot of LoS

[paper crag]

wasn't zen nerf before brig was added?

[onyx shore]

why seoul insisting not playing brigitte?

[ruby pendant]

FreeFeel should use Brigitte

[paper crag]

freefeel should use whatever keeps him from dying

[onyx shore]

you mean freefeed

[ruby pendant]

lol yea

[opaque cargo]

ew, that rally

[ruby pendant]

It's funny to watch

[paper crag]

comeon LAV take that point

i'll cheer for LAV until seoul builds to 86%

i'll root for whoever is closer to winning

therefore closer to ending the game faster

WHOO

[brisk roost]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

[balmy wolf]

you really want to see the shd game huh

[paper crag]

SHD vs DF

[fiery reef]

"Seoul is gonna win this"

[north tendon]

valiant deserves the win

they are adapting

seoul isnt

[paper crag]

seoul OD'd on Koreans

[brisk roost]

Cmon

We want SHD v DF already

[north beacon]

my favorite thing about twitch is the option to hide chat

[paper crag]

^

[onyx shore]

why are you reading twitch chat if you hate it so much

are you masochistic?

[north tendon]

I enjoy seeing them acting like idiots

"brig op"

she dies

[fiery reef]

My favorite thing about twitch is the little x in the top corner of the twitchtab.

[north beacon]

i open it to see if they're still talking about C9

[rare sonnet]

DAMN

[north tendon]

AAAAH

[paper crag]

yeah same

[onyx shore]

perfectly balanced

[paper crag]

i do check for C9

[brisk roost]

SOON THATS NASTY LUL

[rare sonnet]

tbh pretty balanced

[grizzled trout]

Sigh

[onyx shore]

i hope they remember you

[rare sonnet]

tracer is kinda op

[north tendon]

FEELS GOOD

[fiery reef]

MFW people still use twitch to watch instead of just using OWL website and never worry about chat again.

[north tendon]

A TRACER COUNTER

[vagrant niche]

bro, that is what she was meant to do, counter flankers and dive

[paper crag]

what's tracer bomb's damage in this patch?

[ruby pendant]

3 healer support team

[opaque cargo]

Valiant is running brigball properly Seoul is fucked if they don't adapt

[paper crag]

was tracer nerf with hanzo rework?

[fiery reef]

ill be real. I want seoul to win this. So brig bandwagons can finally give up.

[onyx shore]

tracer pulse bomb nerf was not needed tbh

[fiery reef]

oh nvm. I don't have to. Even Valiant realized she wasn't that good right now.

[paper crag]

i think 350 would have been better

[vagrant niche]

See

they had to switch to Widow

[opaque cargo]

FFS

[paper crag]

at least let me one shot bastion

[fiery reef]

I'm just happy to see Reinhardt getting more play

[rare sonnet]

@onyx shore why not

[opaque cargo]

they should have built rally, would have gotten them a solid control

[brisk roost]

BLOCKED LUL

[onyx shore]

should've increased the cost

not reduce the damage

[ruby pendant]

wow

[north tendon]

LOL

[paper crag]

LETS GO LAV

END THIS GAME

[rare sonnet]

@onyx shore but thats not the style of tracer

[brisk roost]

Kariv has yet to use his Trans lol

[fiery reef]

When you remember your on Seoul Dynasty "And he wants to die!"

[ruby pendant]

Dynasty tried so hard, shame to lose like this

[onyx shore]

@rare sonnet most complain is she build up the ult too fast,that's it

even though the damage is big,it's hard to stick

[paper crag]

these are not the zunba gravs i've been waiting for...

[rare sonnet]

its upposed to be a skill-based cooldown but technically thats every ultimate, Pule is just fast enough to build that the argument to use it as a regular ability is valid

that comment looks really r/iamverysmart

[frosty anvil]

[grizzled trout]

Man

[brisk roost]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ruby pendant]

finally

[fiery reef]

finally get them off the stage and give us SHD.

[vagrant niche]

that was a good game

[north tendon]

well done

[brisk roost]

[rare sonnet]

seoul just lost $85k lol

[balmy wolf]

rip seoul

[warped axle]

I hate it when the less interesting team wins...

[paper crag]

what comment is r/iamverysmart?

[ruby pendant]

Dragons first win today

[coarse willow]

WHY ARE WE SO BAD ON CONTROLLLL

[ruby pendant]

Fuel lose 4-0

[grizzled trout]

Wait how they lose 85k

[fiery reef]

They should get Mr. Burns to install trap floors. Soon as the match is done just hit that button and drop their asses out of the arena.

[brisk roost]

SHD V DF LETS GOOOOOO

[ruby pendant]

FreeFeel MVP!

[frosty anvil]

bitcoin trading

[rare sonnet]

@grizzled trout only two competitive teams for season playoffs in PAcific region, they're fighting for the 1st place BYE on pacific region

[warped axle]

people are overrating this match

[ruby pendant]

@fiery reef insane

[opaque cargo]

if geguri is not on zarya I will actually be salty

[warped axle]

they think it's decided who's getting the bye

[upper sapphire]

85k... except that your salary contract removes any tournament winnings to replace salary 😛

[warped axle]

not true AT ALL

[grizzled trout]

@rare sonnet there more matches u know

[rare sonnet]

i was just memeing lol they might not have lost the money yet

[north tendon]

LUL

[paper crag]

zunba zarya was underwhelming today though

so i wonder how much geguri will be able to do even if she does get to play zarya

[rare sonnet]

zunba recovering from injury

[north tendon]

dragon wins and I am complete

[warped axle]

lav can still choke the hell out off this stage

[ruby pendant]

4-0 Dragons

[rare sonnet]

dragons should beat a really top team imo

[ruby pendant]

win

[opaque cargo]

good choice of music

[rare sonnet]

would be fun

[warped axle]

they didn't look amazing tonight

[brisk roost]

I hope not

[paper crag]

yeah

[tawny sigil]

whats next?

[balmy wolf]

I just want dragons to win tbh

[brisk roost]

Seoul could still pick up a W

[paper crag]

i really wanted dragons' first win to be against a pretty high tier team

[ruby pendant]

@tawny sigil Fuel Dragons

[brisk roost]

Seoul is up against Shock next match

[paper crag]

or at least SFS or something

[cerulean plume]

Outlaws might be scary in this meta 👀

[brisk roost]

So Seoul is gonna beat Shock

[paper crag]

better teams than DF and mayhem

[fiery reef]

I wish the outlaws would make a huge comeback

[rare sonnet]

u sure @brisk roost

[brisk roost]

Yes lol

Ez

[warped axle]

I've kind of given up on the Outlaws

[brisk roost]

Seoul would beat SFS

[rare sonnet]

they didn't win last time dude

[paper crag]

why is Game 2 opaque?

[onyx shore]

it depends on how outlaws can abuse this meta

[brisk roost]

Uh no

Seoul clapped SFS last stage

[paper crag]

and game 2 and game 3 don't show map names

[onyx shore]

when they can abuse it,they are great

when they can't,they are shit

[north tendon]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/symmetra-rework-update/103577/2

[limber umbra]

why are people booing soon

[rare sonnet]

who did san fran 3-1 last time

[fiery reef]

Like .. if any team should have an undefeated stage (and win 1st place... looking at you boston). It should be Houston .. not my favorite team.. but idk .. after season one .. I really felt like if anyone could do it .. it would be them.

[rare sonnet]

sfs i mean

[north tendon]

its a a support chant for soon

[onyx shore]

@limber umbra "sooooon" not booing

[balmy wolf]

Is anyone actually getting tokens?

[brisk roost]

I dunno

[limber umbra]

lol OK

[fiery reef]

Tokens for me come late usually

a day late

[onyx shore]

christ

[limber umbra]

it sounds like a boo

[onyx shore]

my ublock is blocking 756 ads

[fiery reef]

but I've got like .. probably 2k or more tokens I think

[onyx shore]

this twitch page is cancerous af

[brisk roost]

ALright lets go boys

SHD first W

[fiery reef]

Why do so many people use twitch!!! Just go to overwatch leagues website ... they have an amazing layout.

[rare sonnet]

@brisk roost it was glads i was thinking about

[brisk roost]

Ohh

[rare sonnet]

SF beat them in an upset

[ruby pendant]

@north tendon Looking forward to sym's update

[opaque cargo]

I used to get tokens from watching but I haven't gotten one all day

[paper crag]

malik at the desk?

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef twitch is the apple of streaming

that's it

[ruby pendant]

@fiery reef Why, Twitch more popular?

[onyx shore]

it's shit,but popular

[north tendon]

yeah

[paper crag]

wow fuel still hanging onto top of bottom 3 by a thread

[warped axle]

twitch is fine

[fiery reef]

RIght, but unlike apple .. you can switch at any point with no cost.

[ruby pendant]

lol

[warped axle]

I mean... Android

[onyx shore]

esports crowd already using twitch since forever

[rare sonnet]

only map difference keeps dallas up

[paper crag]

yeah

4 maps

[onyx shore]

asking them to switch is just not necessary

[ruby pendant]

Twitch trying to be a gaming streaming website

Might as well use the popularity

[north tendon]

where's miro btw?

[paper crag]

too bad SHD won't get 7 wins this stage

[fiery reef]

There are 2 lines. 1 line, you get punched in the crouch every 30 seconds. line 2 you get free high quality buffet food to enjoy in a quiet forest cabin. And yall pick line 1. smh.

[paper crag]

so they'll definitely stay rock bottom

[ruby pendant]

@paper crag nah, they get 10

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef who got punched? you?

[rare sonnet]

so the league is basically one legendary team, 8 pretty good teams and 3 contenders-level teams...

[opaque cargo]

I still can't get over that D.Va bomb on last point gibraltar from valiant

[onyx shore]

maybe only you think owl website is better

[rare sonnet]

lol

[opaque cargo]

that was so good

[onyx shore]

which is a valid opinion btw

[paper crag]

@ruby pendant TRUST

[onyx shore]

but only an opinion btw

btw

do you get tokens if you watch on owl website?

[warped axle]

I missed the LAG game. Void wasn't there right?

[fiery reef]

What does twitch provide that OWL doesn't. And don't say chat, because I'm specifically referring to people who are complaining about the chat.

[onyx shore]

or mlg

[north tendon]

malik gonna get hate

[fiery reef]

Yes lol

[vagrant niche]

HEY

[fiery reef]

Tokens = OWL no problem

[vagrant niche]

I like Brigitta too

[paper crag]

yo my browser-based discord keeps crashing when i right click people's names

[balmy wolf]

the owl website is showing the twitch one

[opaque cargo]

platcaster 👏

[vagrant niche]

so i can relate

with him

[paper crag]

anyone else having this bug?

[sullen berry]

"Geguri best girl in OW League" starter pack
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379705573958090753/446505044632666112/Db8QYtiW4AAadsW.png

[fiery reef]

Right @balmy wolf but you get none of the cancer, and a better interface.

[heady idol]

im frog

[balmy wolf]

@paper crag why are you using browser

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef complaining about twitch chat isn't enough to make people move platform

[paper crag]

why not

[onyx shore]

you can always close it

[balmy wolf]

you know you can hide it right lol

[tacit tartan]

** DALLAS OVERRATED SHANGHAI UNDERESTIMATED LONG HAVE WE WAITED SHANGHAI ACTIVATED **

[vagrant niche]

Geguri is going to get banned and fined now

[fiery reef]

@onyx shore you get the same stream on OWL. And a better interface.

[warped axle]

"I want frog wife" - Geguri

[ruby pendant]

You get gifts from using Twitch

[sullen berry]

@tacit tartan

[ruby pendant]

From Amazon

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef what interface?

[sullen berry]

"I eat Eag"

[ruby pendant]

Why not use it for all streaming videos

[tacit tartan]

😉

[ruby pendant]

Overwatch included

[warped axle]

[ruby pendant]

Overwatch website wouldn't be popular

When Twitch is universal

[fiery reef]

Constant updates with the score of each match, including mid round scores. Access to current standings and schedule.

[paper crag]

GIFF SHD VS DF

NAO

[balmy wolf]

hm

[rare sonnet]

Twitch chat sucks ass my dudes

[balmy wolf]

i havent watched it on the owl site before

[paper crag]

I can root for SHD without any guilt because Effect isn't even playing

[fiery reef]

also tells you the map order as well.

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef well,then maybe people who complains about twitch chat is just not majority

[balmy wolf]

also wheres puckett

[rare sonnet]

look at the amount of over-moderation that is needed to keep it civil

[balmy wolf]

is he on vacation again

[rare sonnet]

and then it still isn't civil

[ruby pendant]

lol malik

[limber umbra]

this is it boys

im so scurred for SHD

[onyx shore]

or not significant enough to make people leave twitch

[paper crag]

is malik running double duty with the desk and hype man?

[fiery reef]

@onyx shore of course. The Vocal minority is never the same as the silent Majority. Then again this is twitch. So most of them are cancer

[frosty anvil]

Twitch chat moves too fast to really be considered chat IMO. It's why i'm here so i can actually talk to people instead of spam

[balmy wolf]

i s2g that mohawk guy is at every vali game

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef i still dont see the problem with twitch chat,you can hide them

[frosty anvil]

its just a cheering section / troll den

[fiery reef]

I just stick to discord, and OWL website. Only downside is .. if I am using my other monitor .. I can't type here and watch

[rare sonnet]

people that complain about no twitch chat are obviously a vocal minority, because they want to be vocal

[onyx shore]

for me

[warped axle]

Twitch chat is like sitting in a crowd at a sports game

[paper crag]

yo that hype lady is ready to cheer for SHD

[fiery reef]

My point is .. if you are going to just hide twitch chat @onyx shore why wouldn't you use OWL website for the added benefits?

[onyx shore]

the only time i open twitch chat is when they got spammed by trihard7 emote after xqc is released

[ruby pendant]

@paper crag working overtime

[paper crag]

yeah

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef because people hates moving from what they are used to

[paper crag]

i feel like i've seen her cheer for other games too

for other teams

[balmy wolf]

paid actor

[ruby pendant]

@fiery reef Twitch shorter to type

[balmy wolf]

lul

[paper crag]

lol

[frosty anvil]

i have the stream maximized, OWL on another browser with this on my 2nd monitor

[onyx shore]

habits are hard to change

[ruby pendant]

Much more convienent to access

[fiery reef]

@onyx shore Tell me about it. "Brig is going to make us play differently!? NERF NERF NERF!"

[balmy wolf]

dual monitor ftw

[heady idol]

1-30 BOYS

LEZ GO

[warped axle]

YES

[balmy wolf]

i have one monitor for discord, and another for the stream

[onyx shore]

@fiery reef see,you're complaining about twitch chat again

[ruby pendant]

Sounds depressing when you say it like that

[honest gulch]

Hello

[warped axle]

fuck dallas

[rare sonnet]

I mean i don't like her if she is as OP as mercy was, but she isn't reeaaaaallly.

[balmy wolf]

whos ready for a 0-30 LUL

[onyx shore]

you can close it,nobody tells you to read those

[ruby pendant]

1st win