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but right now, NY is favored team in terms of win
eh, i think valiant's good, but not good enough to beat ny
Mistakes is less flexible so itll be interesting
.> If both LA teams win, it'll be huge ass upset
though he can play Jonaks counter
Even tho I don't think Val would win, I'd still root for em
JjoNak as JjoNak vs Mistakes as a Mistake
I will always root against NYXL
unless they're playing Fuel
then I want a humiliating 4-0
is that a xenophobic thing or you just hate overdogs

@brisk roost same
Rip Gladiators
So are Brigette and Hanzo rework, + genji, tracer junk nerfs confirmed for stage 4 or only speculations š¤
they've always had whatever is live at the start of the stage as far as I can remember
though I think there might be a cutoff date
End of the stage before is cutoff methinks
like tuesday next week
or thursday that just happened
I believed Taimou said the hanzo changes might come through
though he could be wrong
@vagrant niche I speak Korean. What happened? Did the Korean translator dude add/omit/change what players said again?
that's what it seemed like
SBB said something pretty lengthy in the eyes of others versus what the translator said
i don't speak korean but it sounded like SBB said the same short few words twice
and then the translator comes out with a few long sentences
sounded like SBB might have been throwing shade
and the translator stopped him
lol honestly that dude just annoys the fuck out of me
the funny thing is that this one time when Fearless(I think) was doing the AMA session, he was adding shit to make it more spicy
like fearless was throwing shade
the guy just looks like a hypeman fuccboi imo
kinda annoys me
i want a more professional translator who just translates, not try to spice things up by "bringing his own personality into it"
you're a translator. you're a conduit.
you take what the players say, capture THEIR message and tone, and carry it over to another language
not fucking tailor it to how you like it
sorry about the rant
bad translations annoy me to hell
HuK is a coward
Boston should have taken on NYXL first
did the title matches sour patch style
Sour. Sweet. Gone.
that also means they are not 100% confident that they can beat nyxl again
nah,i'll take the money
Or they're just being smart - and giving a chance for NYXL to be eliminated without them having to play them. Not likely that LAV will do it, but there's always a chance.,
anything could happen
no but it is a chance to tire them out
who won today
Everyone's favourite teams?

Please let hanzo changes go through
Seems like the meta is already defined in pro play on current patch
Both teams played 3 support 2 tanks 1 hanzo
Brig zen and mercy
With zarya and rein.
Ult economy is A LOT MORE important
A grav without a zen ult means a wipe
@ whoever was talking about what SBB said earlier
apparently he only said scores
danny added like all of the trash talk
Stage 4 is gonna be completely different. Nyxl are gonna be in trouble
They donāt have a god tier zarya. And they are gonna need to play all 3 supports and I dunno if they are comfortable on other heroes.
Sbb is not gonna play probably
Sbb might zarya
Hopefully all the changes go throuh
We are not even done with season 3, not sure why it wonāt go through.
you mean stage?
technically stage 3 is over, stage playoffs don't really add to the season leaderboard
The changes happened before the stage ended though right?
yeah like in the last week
so they'll have had like two? three? weeks with all the new shit
that's not factoring in the time they spent practising the old patch for this week's games
so like i said, first week or so will be weird comps and weird strats
i'd just roll with it
Yeah i know but for some reason blizzard might not put the changes in
i think seagull apparently mentioned that they're pushing through new hanzo?
stage 4 wont be that different.
i think at the very least they're going to nerf the rat and tracer
patches and meta change never go hand in hand
If the changes all went through, the meta is gonna change
baguette is meta changing
people who think that Brigritte is going to change meta single handedly is a bit too hopeful.
we're not hopeful, we're just rly depressed about it lol
Contenders last match?
It was a mirror match up
what
that's a friendly 
yeah sorry i dont think i can take a sample size of one as a proper argument.
and T3 matches are horrible sample as well.
Sure, I find that both of them had the same comp as a big thing
I know Contenders is T2.
i'm saying it in case someone trotted out the GO4OW matches
eh...........
yeah time for me to leave this conversation.
Yeah sure
friendly matches are still lowkey a meme
it is just broadcasted scrim.
Yeah but I find it interesting how they had mirror comps
but just watching all the ladder games, it's hard to deny that brigitte still has a fuckton of impact
almost literally
it can be look at as a kneejerk reaction though
because this always happened before
new heroes release
people spam it
Not really
and claim it to be meta changing
not really
i mean, maybe ana?
orisa was instantly called shit and underpowered iirc
Moira and Doomfist came to mind.
"shit tier bastion"
DF got nerfed
not really with orisa, mood
Was OP as fuck
Ana took a patch or two to really get it going
i remember how no one liked orisa, myself included
Moira is the closest thing though
but recently Moira and Doomfist are the most egregious
But even when she was played no one thought she is game breaking op like brig
in EU Contenders for example people goes wild with triple tank Moira for a while
no one actually ran triple tank consistently with moira in the end though
and it wasn't really that hard to counter her
didn't make teams in EU and some in NA to NOT spam it repeatedly
how do you counter a brigitte that shield bashes you every time you blink
like
with a stun every time
eh
I am not sure you understand how some contenders teams are easily OWL lvl
Specially x6 and fusion university
brigitte is probably comparable to DF in terms of impact as opposed to moira
because different in structure, time consumption, resources, and financial backing.
Element Mystic was once "OWL level" and then they flunked out of the playoff early.
and nobody ever talked about it anymore.
now it is "X6" and FU
Because they lost a couple of games?
Runaway vs LH
Runaways didnt have that much backing
Still applies, you donāt need money and shit to be the best
and saying Runaway doesn't have that much backing is a huge lol
Old dragons vs any contenders team
Runner basically said that his income was so good that when Western teams tried to poach him they were puzzled at his income
Lets say most
so to say that Runaway doesn't have that much backing is a huge meme
Most koreans got scammed
what?? Runner is an experienced streamer with a huge fanbase and financial security
what scam now
did you move the goalpost?
I mean korean players
And I am talking about before they got popular
Before they got popular they had no name
so what exactly it have to do with "but Contenders team can be competitive to OWL teams"
LH was known and had backing while runaway didnāt have anything
How is this hard to connect?
his income was enough to drive the team and Western teams thought his income was a zero too many.
SHIELDS UP
to say that Runaway was just some poor bois was a. horseshit and b. meme
Okay umm lets go with xqc i guess
They werent paid shit in their team
Lets go with old dragons too
So many examples to how flawed your argument is
you kind of have to understand that even as Shanghai or Dallas getting their shit kicked in
they still have more experience and skills comparatively to Contenders teams
as well as having better infrastructure and such
Fusion university would fucking destroy old dragons
that's hyperbolic.
Anyways, the argument is going nowhere
If you think contenders teams canāt compete with owl teams thatās your opinion
And I think they can compete
Will ever know? Maybe, maybe not.
Oh you scrimmed against top contenders teams?
Thatās nice but my opinion still stands
and that just makes your opinion opinionated without any base
Who did you scrim against?
If you didnāt scrim the good ones then it doesnāt matter
Most of contenders teams are looking like shit
Thatās why fusion wins easily
Sym is underrated ;_;
Yeah shes so underrated on the cancer levels show should be Much higher
What do you mean? š¤
Fusion dance.... Dragon Ball Z?
Sigh š¤¦āāļø
who are y'all rooting for today?
I am a nyxl fan from the start
@warped axle same here
why are there 3 title matches this stage instead of 2
they changed it so instead of top 3, it's now the top 4 teams in the stage
Itās first season, it makes sense to have a couple structure tweaks to avoid problems later
yeah, it's good to see them trying out new things
Puckett coming tonight noice
I mean you can tell flat out they're using Season 1 more as like.
Beta OWL.
And fixing shit as they go.
You can only structure so much without having to test to find out its wrong.
It's something all sports go through.
Look at the NFL, they've been around forever.
And now they're basically removing kick offs.
Shanghai is #1
duh
they try their hardest
#1
forever
ezz
I can't wait for the games today!!!
Hello
same dud, just that I have school tomorrow xD
@royal acorn, I've sent you a DM with all my commands!
!tracer
@supple prism, I've sent you a DM with all my commands!
!schedule
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@royal acorn
oh shit
win
4 Mins
#1
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OH COME ON
WHY DID YOU REMOVE THAT SPAM MESSAGE
sorry mods for pinging you somebody was spamming but he removed the message
@royal acorn jokes on them we can see logs
pwned
2 minutes untill Boston crushed LAG in to a fine powder to save for sprinkling on NY's grave later
It's weird that this chat isn't as active
@fluid dagger To be fair, Boston's possibility for winning is higher than the Gladiators
i hope boston wins and goes up against nyxl
its 8am for me liek damn its so early rn
biggest of plot twists
Lets gooooo
shut up it's monday not sunday
hERE WE GOO BOIOS
125 Thousand dolalrs
interestingly, LAV game during stage was closer than BOSvNY
BOS was never the worst despite what everyone said, but I would say they're probably the most improved from stage 1
Can't they have just chosen shangai Kappa
yeah these are all good teams
the W/L differential is less an indication of best/worst and more an indication of how competitive this stage was
true
so many teams were in contention for the top 4 this stage
I'd say that Boston might, strategically, care more about next stage and didn't practice as much but I don't think anyone on that team knows how to chill
lol
tbh these games are close which is rly cool
what if they don't run Striker O_O
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Surefour is definitely one of the best Widows right now and that is an Uprising weakness
that's probably Glad's biggest chance to get ahead
but they gotta dodge the Gamsu/Striker combo

is easy
they say
But maybe who knows
they could Defeat them
lol
Surefour has made Mistakes
he's got a belt
Rip Bostonās number one spot
He doesn't deserve that belt 
All this way only to get rekt by some purple boyz

Yeah but if they lose
they won't
They could
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Surefour is sex
Is Bischu better now?
Boston did a good job putting plenty of pressure on Surefour to give Mistakes an edge last time
SUREFOUR SUREFOUR
see if they can do it again
Purple boyz fight there way to number one spot




BIG BOSS-TON


They could've chosen anybody?
I forgot how it works
If Boston chose NY though.... the balls... that woulda made for some great first match drama
WHAT IS THAT SHIRT
hi
lol
CALL MOMMY
so how does the casting work in playoffs
XD
is it uberx-another duo-uberx
@hollow current by casting work
or do they rotate all 3
here we gooo
Striker is bae
I think Gladiators will win this map
lol
Fissure and Striker already exchanging blows
i just hope uberx or monte/doa cast the finals
s4444
he knows we saw that
idc who wins i just kinda want a new champion
HUUUUUGE
AND SUREFOUR DESTROYED IT
holy shit
I SEE HOW ITS "EASY"
incredible
Glads are going in for blood
Shaz with his bast
they are so angry
rip my boi boston
THEY'RE NOT PLAYING GAMES TODAY BOIS
Shaz kill em with his bast
we need to spectate surefour
pretty sure boston will win this if they dont tilt after 1 loss
LA IS GOING FOR BLOOD
they need to go tracer+junk
GO LA GOO
rolled
lol if they hold point 3....
Rolled like a freaking blunt
wow
stopped like 5 meters from the end
its still a stop
That was close
Neko went Jjonak mode


LA Just pushing forward
tho
Who are you hyped for?
vs 
if we get through today without a humiliating C9 or backcap I am going to be severely disappointed
boston cmon
LA bb @marsh hull just so NY can rek em

TOO MUHC YPE
no way to challenge widow, when they have to put bodies to stall
they have no shield for mistakes anymore either, so theoretically surefour should have the advantage in widow duel (skills aside)
LA Pushing again
this is my typical comp game though - nobod contests until last 10 meters š
GAMSO
BOSTON BOIS
ASUUUU
CMON
this is bad
the crowd cheering "SHIELDS UP" earlier was intimidating as fuck
cmon stiker
GOODBYEOSTRIKER š
NOOOO
YEASSS
STRIKEER
HOLD
FINALLY STRIKER YOU STRIKE ONCE
FFUUUUUU
HOLD THE LINE

glads split
1776 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
and didn't push it in
Holy shit striker is putting in moves
that was easily winnable
nice hold
nice
NICE
NOOOO
YYYEEEESSS
ok i think boston warmed up
BOSTON!
DONT GET MAD GET GLAD

ā¤
"in there like swimwear"
1 7 7 6

ok then....
yeah that's a new one
Dreams shattered
This chat is 10x better than twitch
HODL LIKE YOUR BITCOINS BOI LA STILL GOT THIS

boston will stop before 1st point

(being serious)

I think boston isn't trying hard
> 
They know they're going to win so they aren't pushing their power
WAIT DID THEY C9 I WASNT LOOKING
no
BUT CHAT IS SPAMMING C9 BUT WHO TRUSTS TWITCH CHAT
Boston: "This isn't even my final form."
neatooo
@stuck agate no, Bos held like it was their bitcoins
Gladiators: "I don't care shut up."
OOF
if you can do it without losing it makes sense to hold something in reserve for NYXL
give the Bostonians Clam chowder and they will conquer the world
"Well this is a role reversal..."
Ouch
RIp
oof
REVERSE SWEEP
SHIELDS DOWN, SHIELDS DOWN, SHIELDS DOWN
Mistakes is doing well, is true
SHRIELDS UP
yeah ping, he said "ISIS is swell"
Mistakes is doing mistakes
wow
I thought he said they smell
Widow picks do mistakes
GET YA ASS BACK IN THERE
that was so close
STOP DYING
Omfg Bos is going nuts
did neko taun lul
we rollin boiz
STOP USING YOUR EMOTES
Neko op

Neko is just Jjonak's alt account
Why are they saying Shields Up when they only have 1 shield tank? 
0-1 
I'm gonna have to VoD the end of this. Stuck doing dinner with the in-laws
huge bomb
OH SHIT NOTE
GG it's over
NOTE
OMG NOTE AGAIN
3 FOR NOTE
spoiler alert: gladitors are doing good..
invite them to watch OWL with u
Surefour popping off
LUL

@worn hornet fake a tummy ache
that's 7 against them this week, right?
they're dooing so good amirite?
look at the ult advantage too, it's over, they just don't know it yet
lol
NOOO
WOO
STOP DYING
THESE TABLES ARE TURNING BACK-AND-FOURTH SO FAST THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A FUCKING TIME TRAVEL MACHINE
ouch
HOOOODDLLLL HAHAAAA
BOSTON
sigh
shaz on rollercoaster š

The tyre
BOS has the ults again

do it
just broke
"i know, let's run tire directly into the enemy from head on"
he was not moving š
gg it's over
HUGE
woah
phat
what
YUGE
OOOOO BYEBBYE MERCY 
PREDICTIONS 101
Trance can't out heal tire damage
BIGGER THAN TRUMP WALL
DUBAI
YES

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BOSTON BOIS
That was hype

gg

SHIELDS DOWN SHIELDS DOWN SHIELDS DOWN
this reminds me of the stage 1 title matches

BibleThump in the chat
when Profit missed a riptire on a stationary Mercy
and then they lost the map because of it
I'll buy a skin for the overall winner, anyone with me?
š 
BOSTONN LETS GOOO
mistakes eats his vegetables every meal
i dont have money, but i do have a boston skin, so im voting boston
I'll buy a skin for the winner as long as it isn't NYXL
audio freakin out
fucking hell this 1 amazon add on loop
man twitch chat is just.... bile
lmao
twitch is a clusterfuck
why not
i just like that theyre spamming JEFF because it sounds like the voice in the song is saying
Cuz music lul
oh lmao
the music sounds like "jeff jeff jeff jeff"
Twitch should add channels to their chat. Like blizz games have general chat and such
@stuck agate you are trying to search for deep thoughts in twitch chat ?
I just hope Volskya comes up in the finals
@fluid dagger they already do have channels
LETS GO BOSTAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
final matches are not like the stage format, they're Bo5 so if any one wins 3 (even in a row) the match is over and that team wins
ROAST
I missed Mistakes' face when his boss said that last night
Boston = Un-defeated = Defeated = hax
Clean up with pine sol
"Move I'm gay"
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wtf those earrings
and there's a tracer running in that sign
lol "PINEsol"
is that flip one Pine dabbing?
worst earing
Fun fact: T=Mobile isn't the fastest network in America.
Mistakes is stepping it up, wasn't expecting that

these suits these guys are wearing are adorable
I wonder if DK's been charged yet
Ima get some apples
gay lol XDDDDd
wtf
Widow map, prove y our worth Mistakes!
S T A N I S L A V
D A N I L O V
make no mistake, mistakes is not a mistake-maker.
if Boston wins they should make Mistakes a custom Dragunov skin for his sniper
cmon mistakes
made a mistake
Mistake, stop making mistakes
oh wow can't believe that rez went off
BOSTON WINNIN TEAM FITE
that was a ballsy res
oof that headshot
...did kellex just kill biggoose? did i just see that

:lul:
yep
fuck
cmon mistakes
WHA
T
MONKEY MAN
Did anyone else get an error trying to come in here
lul
TRIPLE KIILLLL F
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striker's hair dye budget is out of control

MISTAKES playing so good
S T A N I S L A V
D A N I L O V
RiP you might be right
striker :'D
@royal acorn for that NYXL win 2
It is gonna be 0-4
EYY, it's all good fun
Boston saving Sombra for NY
they said this would be a warm up
clap
to be fair that's what I woulda done
but you're gold
@royal acorn no pls
would you say he made...mistakes?
oof
I'll leave now
It's free real estate -Boston
It's real free estate - boston
rip neko
There's no such thing as Free real estate in Boston... you do NOT want to know what my house costs (even though it's a piece of crap)
ha, I live a fair bit SOUTH of Boston
like, miles
but still in state
the rest of the state is chaep
glads get like 3 every fight and still lose
Striker is like have 3 extra players on your team
if neko didnt trans the game would have been over
they get stuck by Striker
top 10 saddest anime deaths
RIP LA
I was paying $1500/mo + utilities for a 2-bedroom half an hour plus traffic delays outside the city
In today's matches, will they play all five maps or will they stop if a team reaches 3 points?
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - says cree
Striker sticks tracers a disturbing amount of times
the Boston McCree gun looks sick
CMON BOSTON
he strikes them
WHY DO YOU HURT ME LIKE THIS LA

and it was a kind of shitty apartment
POP OFF
š¢ š¦ š¦ š¦
1 more and the win is secured
LA more like LAme
cmon boston you can do this #firstnonkoreanteamtowinastage
is it Boston/Gladiators/NYXL?
and LAV
everyone fucking hogs Koreans
oh
like what gives
wasn't there only 3 teams last season?
yeah
yeah they changed playoffs format
but it's LAV vs NYXL so we pretty much know how it ends
They changed it for this stage
but they changed it
Top 4 teams
oh ok
which sucks because
FUCK UP BOSTON YOU CAN DO THIS LADS
yea, they changed it to four, courtesy of monte i think?
now it's gonna be another 10 hour day
Boston owns Anubis
OWL League? More like Korean League. (mostly)
this is Boston's series to lose
both teams need a chance to warm up vs the team who just played is at a disadvantage from fatigue
4head
I mean I'm also cool with the LAV seeing as they have a british player
These aren't actually owls playing
but FUCK EM UP LADS
go back to the stage 1 format
where you play the title matches on saturday
eh it's bank holiday weekend right now
I mean I'd prefer to face LAV in the finals too
I'm on board with it
nope glads
wtf
so boston already won after 2 maps?
it's best of five
liar
so
It's 0-2
@slim summit arguably both those put NY in the best position. They got to warm up against to of their easier matchups which shouldn't fatigue them much
they have to win 3
does that sign say "Make Brigitte's mace a baguette?"
Mistakes showing up big
lol bishu yawnin š
2 matches in, boston 2-0-ing them
*boi
Boston his super heavily favored on Anubis, this should be over if they don't choke
eyup.
if la gets point 1 ill be surprised
3-0verwatch
anubis is trash
WHAT IS WITH THESE SHIRTS
Aids
anubis has really good design actually
I wana see Boston run torb/sym defense on anubis
mistakes doesn't make mistakes
but still full hold
i want to see boston run torb tbh
2cp isn't actually a bad format when teams are coordinating. It becomes problematic in live servers because lack of coordination leads to heavy snowballing
you can't snowball a payload because it's movement is finite, you can't snowball the capture point maps because they reset ever round
but for 2cp you can snowball
i'm hoping to go the world cup in france this yaer
Some people are already joking about reverse sweeping
lol no
it's possible
if Gladiators can win Anubis then they have a chance at a reverse sweep
the rest of the maps are Boston's weaker areas
Is OWL meant to be international or only Pacific with 1 bit of europe?
thats what the announcers just said
But no way is Boston in the move to give up a map it seems
They beat Glads on R66 tho
R66 was super close
but yes they did
I still think Boston is going 3-0 though
Anubis is one of their bread and butter maps
just short of Volskaya for them
TriHard
I credit Boston's success to their tanks mostly, honestly
Striker is great solo play but their tanks come through all the time making space
i hate everyone that spam trihard7 when malik comes up, its not funny anymore, never was
@fresh sedge I'm sorry but are you expecting twitch chat to be anything short of a pre-teen who just discovered memes?
no im just sick and tired of it
XQc fucking died becuase he Trihard7'd
lmao
ooooh, La.
oh snap that halt off the anubis statue lol
My sweet summer child
fewer teams are playing offensive widow on anubis
i wonder why, that always seemed to be a good way to lock in the positioning
lol Striker
here comes the push
Striker:" I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me"
or not
TriHard
that was actually gold level play
They pushed Striker, who is immortal.
why did they just ignore striker lul
7
I think it was also just bad timing. They went to ress Hydration.
And mid-ress Fissure died.
in fairness, that was perfect positioning from striker
Which made the ress a bad one.
TriHard 7
Striker backed in to a small room, perfect for junk
Mistakes has Free Reign over this place
he played that perfect
@pearl stratus BigGoose and Hydration ignored Striker until everyone else was dead, then BigGoose funneled in and then hydration realised that maybe it'd be useful
HUGE GAMSU
Gamsu is so aggressive
dies
full hold, it's over
yikes
i guess they're LAGging
ayy lmao
BIGGEST GAMSU
stalwart defense
Boston is good
this looking like it's wraped up
+f
man
Boston wins, next game
geez luis
glads are garbo
this could be it fellas
Just one team fight and its over
not what I expected





