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paper crag
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10% would be interesting to see as an event match

opaque cargo
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pulse bomb into the face of a D.Va with DM up

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lmao

paper crag
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lol muma so low

minor flame
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I dont think S4 won against a duel against Linkzr that entire round

paper crag
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clockwork looks like a different version of jake

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like a 2p color

ruby pendant
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rigged

paper crag
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dink

ruby pendant
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lol

coarse willow
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wow

paper crag
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clean

coarse willow
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that was solid

serene tendon
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CLEAAN CRISP

minor flame
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S4 was definitely underwhelming on that

median saddle
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so if linkzr pop off houston wins

minor flame
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Barely got any picks

median saddle
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got it

torpid charm
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reverse sweep, oooooh booooooy

coarse willow
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ehh

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rt66

vagrant niche
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Route 66 tho

coarse willow
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bad map for houston

tawny sigil
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how do they decide MVP in real sports exactly?

minor flame
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Most impact on the team for wins

tawny sigil
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this is why OWL can't be taken seriously man

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they treat MVP as most valuable PERSONALITY

median saddle
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the definition of an MVP is someone who is the most valuable to their team

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i.e someone like fissure and striker

minor flame
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I dont know where you got the personality from

median saddle
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are two people that come up

tawny sigil
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ie: something not decided by the public

minor flame
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Its the person who makes the most positive impact on the team and is valuable to their roster

coarse willow
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people that carry basically

tawny sigil
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xQC was MVP of last season...

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he ain't an MVP man

coarse willow
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yea its kind of a broken system

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because community decides

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so whoever has the biggest fanbase wins

tawny sigil
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which is why im saying. Its Most Valuable Personality, Not player

coarse willow
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mangachu inspired

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lol

median saddle
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even in personality fissure is quite popular

vagrant niche
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Mangachu's Pharah ๐Ÿ‘Œ

stuck agate
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PLAY SYMMETRA YOU COWARDS GrandpaRage

ruby pendant
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Did say next was Sym!

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most op hero in the game

coarse willow
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syms TP or sheild gen would be pretty OP in OWL tbh

stuck agate
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whos a better sniper, linkzr or s4

coarse willow
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linkzr

tawny sigil
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symm is to easy to kill for a pro player

coarse willow
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100%

tawny sigil
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she cant do anything

coarse willow
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i mean yea

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shed die a lot

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but her ults are OP

tawny sigil
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DAT ASSS

brisk roost
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SNEAKY JAKE LMAO

vagrant niche
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LMAOOO

stuck agate
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HOLY SHIT JAKE THE DISRESPECT

pearl stratus
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It wasn't even disrespect really. He couldn't have killed asher with an orb.

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He had to sit there and wait lol

tawny sigil
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could have pulsed bomb either one

pearl stratus
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Asher still had recall.

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He would have just dropped the pulse.

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You can only stick a tracer after she's recalled, or its a waste of an ult.

coarse willow
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wow houston

serene tendon
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WEW

pearl stratus
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Secret tactic.

stuck agate
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MAN I HOPE HOUSTON WINS THIS MAP

vagrant niche
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are they actually going to win it?

pearl stratus
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Only taken Point B once ever?

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Don't let the enemy get point B.

tawny sigil
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even if they win, still no second cap for houston

pearl stratus
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900 IQ Strat.

tawny sigil
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enemy gets point B... houston= lose, so that's their strat yeah

pearl stratus
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Unless the enemy is loldallas.

median saddle
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houston didn't even win r66 vs dallas did they?

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I thought they tied

pearl stratus
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Yeah they did.

median saddle
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ok I was thinking of another map

pearl stratus
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The chance of tying a push cart is super super low.

ruby pendant
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Fuel is one of the finest teams in Overwatch League

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Teams look up to Fuel as a role model

coarse willow
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mmhm

median saddle
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as a role model in burning down then yeah

pearl stratus
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Ah yes Dallas.

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The Seoul of the West.

median saddle
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man fissure

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why are you at the enemy spawn

serene tendon
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jakes fucking 100 sensitivity jukes

tawny sigil
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they gonna win man

pearl stratus
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Boom.

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That stick

coarse willow
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linkzr is ruining them

median saddle
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gg

serene tendon
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in unison "NICE STICK"

pearl stratus
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Jake has evolved to enable Linkzr SO much though

stuck agate
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HELL YEAH HOUSTOOON

pearl stratus
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Jake is so fucking annoying on Tracer now.

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You can see it.

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He went from useless to obnoxious.

serene tendon
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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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PEW PEW PEW BAYBEEEE

stuck agate
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AAYYEEEEE

pearl stratus
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Ay. That Winstreak of 2 on R66.

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lmao

vagrant niche
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LETS GO TO MAP 5

median saddle
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so

serene tendon
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TACTICAL REVERSE SWEEP, INCOMING!

median saddle
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glads win the first two maps

pearl stratus
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Both of these teams are really good on Oasis.

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So its legit 50:50 right now.

raven badger
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these casters always get things wrong lol

median saddle
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the enemy team wins the next two

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then oasis is 50:50

warped axle
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Man, every Outlaws match is always so exciting

median saddle
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thats how ALL of their games have been rn

pearl stratus
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I did the math in one of the reddit posts.

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There's like 40% Game 5 rates in Stage 3.

raven badger
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"jake and asher", "rawkus and biggoose" uh yeah sure they're on the same team.

pearl stratus
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It's kind of ridiculous.

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There's only been like.. 5? 4-0'

median saddle
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think surefour out

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Hydration in

pearl stratus
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He usually is for Map 5.

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Though Hydrations Sombra has been touchy lately.

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Which is just kind of Hydration in a nut shell.

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Either really on, or really off.

median saddle
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you don't know when he's gonna get a 5 man blade or get arhan'd

pearl stratus
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Well like last Game 5 his Sombra was solid.

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The week before that he couldn't counter a Pharah with her, and never swapped.

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And they just got shit on.

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Against LAV.

rain pewter
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there can't be only 5 4-0s stage 3

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there's a ton of 4-0s in week 1

coarse willow
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there has been 8 4-0s in stage 3

pearl stratus
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Ah I couldn't remember. Still that's like... none.

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Compared to past Stages.

rain pewter
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yeah actually aside from week 1 4-0s are almost non existent

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6 4-0s week 1

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2 4-0s week 2

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1 4-0 week 3 and week 4 (so far)

coarse willow
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wut

pearl stratus
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Look at the amount of Game 5's though.

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It's bananas.

rain pewter
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15 of them from what i can count

pearl stratus
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Stage 3 Week 1 (2): Philly vs. Boston, London vs. Houston.
Stage 3 Week 2 (7): Dallas Vs. Seoul, Boston vs. NYXL, Philly vs. Houston, Seoul vs. LAG, London vs. Philly, NYXL vs. Houston, FL vs. Boston.
Stage 3 Week 3 (5): LAG vs. LAV, Boston vs. London, Philly vs. NYXL, London vs. Val, NYXL vs. LAG (there may be more I missed from when I first did this math)

rain pewter
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that's 1.5x more often than getting a 4-0

pearl stratus
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Yeah, its why I said realistically just about anyone can beat anyone now.

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There's really no more blow outs.

coarse willow
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oof

tawny sigil
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they's Shoking as Reinforce would say

pearl stratus
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I'm confused why Houstons not playing a triple to counter.

serene tendon
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in jakerat we trust

pearl stratus
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Houston is doing a real good job pincering.

coarse willow
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come on houston

pearl stratus
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Notice how half are on the top high ground

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The others in the other side room

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fucks over shatter.

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Houston did an insane job playing around that Shatter.

coarse willow
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nicceee

stuck agate
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YE4AHHHH HOUSTON

coarse willow
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it seems like most OWL teams dont know how to deal with sombra

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shes a bit op

pearl stratus
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They do, but on a tight CP map like this its hard to run a standard McCree.

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Because its easy to dive onto the McCree and remove her biggest predator

minor flame
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This is actual deja vu

serene tendon
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houston pls

pearl stratus
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That Flashbang onto the Coalescence though

coarse willow
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oh no

stuck agate
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these close matches are shaving years off my life oml

coarse willow
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emp

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rip

opaque cargo
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oof

pearl stratus
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Hydration needs them to dive before he can EMP though

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Muma is playing top back, Matt is playing top front

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So he can't EMP both

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That was huge

coarse willow
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DEAD EYE

rain pewter
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not huge enough

pearl stratus
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I mean the EMP was huge

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He got 4 up top

opaque cargo
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Coalescence stun tho

minor flame
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lmao linkzr

tawny sigil
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oups

serene tendon
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damnit

visual glen
brisk roost
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DAMN

stuck agate
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OOF

grizzled trout
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Well

coarse willow
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UGH

visual glen
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SHIELDS UP

stuck agate
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shields were up mhmmm

minor flame
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LAG almost gets rsweeped twice

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damn

pearl stratus
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Houston got too clustered up top imo. And I don't like Rawkus positioning there.

minor flame
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its like the opposite of NYXL

pearl stratus
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He was positioned on the LAG side of the top.

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Which means an easier dive.

vagrant niche
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HYPE

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that was hot

coarse willow
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i was about to say houston should spread apart so they dont all get empd

pearl stratus
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I think it could have been fine if Rawkus was on the other side.

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Because when he went down the stairs he would have found Bani + Linkzr.

coarse willow
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they were all in that room

pearl stratus
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Instead of going down stairs and finding Fissure and Bischu lol

coarse willow
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the supports and junkrat

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oh well at least LAG only gained 1 map

stuck agate
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muma too pure

tawny sigil
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i guess they didnt keep on playing like that

pearl stratus
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I mean they know something they need to play against.

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Tracer Sombra.

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It wrecked them on two maps.

coarse willow
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yea sombra is what fucked it

minor flame
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playing the same clip lmao

pearl stratus
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Jake plays a decent Sombra though

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So they can scrim it out.

coarse willow
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mayhem beating LAV would actually be a dream come true

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then both the 3rd and 4th spots are anyones game

pearl stratus
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It's doable, honestly.

median saddle
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Sayaplayer vs Bunny gonna be pretty hype

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gonna def look out for that

marsh pumice
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oh man LA won again nice

median saddle
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another game where they won two, lost the next two, then win the fifth map

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glads have played 5 game 5s in a row now

coarse willow
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LETS GO MAYHEM

median saddle
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I agree

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I want LAV to lose

vagrant niche
worn hornet
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are they suggesting sayaplayer's screenpeeking Zeb?

supple prism
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there is a rule against that?

vagrant fossil
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yesterday they made a joke about it saying its allowed bc theyre on the same team

worn hornet
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yeah if they didn't want it happening they'd put dividers between everyone

paper crag
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i feel like it should be fine

idle beacon
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ohboi this playoffs will be so tight

rain pewter
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i think they're trying to avoid the idea of players obtaining information through means other than communication

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but i don't really see the point of maintaining the setting as if it's online all that much

pallid cargo
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please swap off of moira and lucio

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sigh

tawny sigil
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Someone make a sign

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"MAKE ALLAH AKBAR PULSE BOMB"

solemn magnet
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Who won the games today

brisk sluice
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Boston 4-0 Dallas, LAG prevented a reverse sweep again against outlaws 3-2.

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As for right now, 1-0 to LAV

solemn magnet
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Thanks, and Rip Dallas

pallid cargo
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monster blade

coarse willow
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i love how theres 20 mins in between each map

pallid cargo
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game on the line and you don't sub in logix

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can close out the match but you don't sub in soon for agilities on ilios

tawny sigil
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florida is on the same boat as dallas

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they cant get in stage 3 play off and final

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so this match is useless to them 100%

median saddle
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Mayhem is so lost

tawny sigil
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DAYUM

median saddle
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tviq pulling a striker there

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really good stall

torpid charm
paper crag
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lol saya

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going full silver there with the running in front of attackers door

tawny sigil
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man the sound is so bugged

median saddle
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saya is stomping soon so hard

tawny sigil
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awesomeguy doesnt affraid of anything

proud vale
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Soon is gonna smash his keyboard soon

tawny sigil
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they're getting the point cause they zone them so hard

paper crag
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SAYA WTF

proud vale
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WHAT THER FUCK SAYA

coarse willow
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OMG

median saddle
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sayaplayer absolutely destroying LAV rn

coarse willow
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BROOO

median saddle
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it's insane

glad cairn
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WOW

pearl stratus
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I feel...

coarse willow
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SAYA MY GOD CALM DOWN

pearl stratus
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I feel so bad for Soon.

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I've never seen Soon be this destroyed by one person before.

tawny sigil
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french people get mad easily too

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or tilted rather

torpid charm
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Mayhem reverse sweep

tawny sigil
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not looking good right now

median saddle
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yeah

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even though saya is popping off

proud vale
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5v5 ults

median saddle
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looks like LAV are gonna win

proud vale
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maybe 6v5

tawny sigil
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nope

proud vale
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ouch

torpid charm
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Mayhem pls

pallid cargo
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thank fucking god

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THANK GOD

coarse willow
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wtf was that

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why did saya switch off of widow

torpid charm
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sad

pallid cargo
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agilities with the hard genji carry there

proud vale
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felt pressured by genji?

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Probably could have stayed though

pearl stratus
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Agilities pops off as much as Saya does, basically.

coarse willow
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well that just shows that LAV isnt that great

torpid charm
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Agilities doesn't ever wanna go back to In N Out

pearl stratus
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Soon was useless though, poor Soon.

coarse willow
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or mayhem is getting good

pallid cargo
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soon was useless

pearl stratus
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Mayhem has been good.

pallid cargo
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valiant won because mayhem misplayed

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actually I'll rephrase it

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mayhem lost because they misplayed

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because mayhem lost, val won

coarse willow
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mayhem shouldve won it

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that last map at least

pallid cargo
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yeah

paper crag
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lol 3 clicks, 3 headshots, NBD

pallid cargo
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val did not deserve junkertown at all

proud vale
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Mayhem lost because Saya hurt his back from carrying 5 people

paper crag
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33.59% wut

pallid cargo
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IMO saya should still be player of the match

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but itll prob be agilities

paper crag
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saya's crit % > bronze scoped accuracy

torpid charm
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damn, those head clicks

pallid cargo
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bunny?

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really?

coarse willow
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wtf

pallid cargo
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not what I'd have given it to

coarse willow
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rigged

torpid charm
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I barely watched this game

paper crag
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btw, does anyone know how crit % works? is it out of all shots fired, or out of shots that connected and dealt hero damage?

pallid cargo
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yeah if they can't give it to losing team then agilities should've gotten it

torpid charm
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yes?

coarse willow
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i wanna say all shot fired

proud vale
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All shots hit I think

pearl stratus
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74:15 nbd.

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Just a 5 to 1 ratio.

torpid charm
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I thought it was out of all the shots fired, what shots were fatal

paper crag
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so if i fire 10 shots, hit 5, and 3 of them were headshots, will my crits be 30% or 60%?

pearl stratus
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Scoped accuracy would be 50%, critical scoped would be 60%

proud vale
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^

paper crag
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so it's out of shots that connected

pearl stratus
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From what I can tell, yes.

paper crag
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cool. thanks

pearl stratus
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I could be wrong, but I think I'm not.

paper crag
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you think you're not wrong, or you don't think you're wrong?

pearl stratus
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Soon's first question: "Bro, hows your butt feel? Cause you just got fucked."

paper crag
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๐Ÿ˜›

pearl stratus
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I could be wrong, but I think I'm right ๐Ÿ˜›

paper crag
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is saya best widow atm?

proud vale
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soon walks out with no head

paper crag
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today's saya was today's best widow i think

pearl stratus
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Out of heavily played, yes.

torpid charm
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didn't aKm do an AMA this week? how did that go?

pearl stratus
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But I would say in terms of consistency Pine is better.

proud vale
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Badly

pearl stratus
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But Pine sees drastically less play.

paper crag
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pine saya linkzr widow deathmatch

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idk who else to put in there

pearl stratus
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Gotta pure Surefour in there too now.

paper crag
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ah okay

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LAG is a team i kinda sleep on

pearl stratus
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I mean Surefour put out a Widow video.

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That the other pro widows watched.

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Linkzr even mentioned it in his AMA when asked about Widow v. Widow.

paper crag
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is carpe widow still a thing?

pearl stratus
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He was just "Go watch Surefours video, he explains it better than I can."

median saddle
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yeah

torpid charm
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yeah

pearl stratus
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Yeah, but its fallen off imo.

median saddle
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but he's not as dominant

pearl stratus
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Other people have gotten better.

torpid charm
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^

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he's still good, others are just shining over him rn

median saddle
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Pine, Sayaplayer, Surefour, and Fleta are my top 4 widows rn

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it's debatable though

paper crag
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oh yeah fleta is there too i guess

torpid charm
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Snillo's AMA is after Saturday's matches, I'm hype

proud vale
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Kariv was top widow stage 1 lol

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maybe he should have tried against saya

torpid charm
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French Week + the young Swedish boi

onyx shore
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houston lost lmao

proud vale
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Has anyone asked Soon how his head is after getting about 20 shots into it?

pearl stratus
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lmao

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"I don't go outside. But if I have to, I like them."

torpid charm
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lol, me

pearl stratus
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... Did he just make a joke about eating out his girlfriend, or just whatever she cooks?

worn hornet
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"be the genie" sounds like someone's never seen Aladin

pearl stratus
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Cause if its the former, Soon is hilarious.

worn hornet
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I think it was meant to be both

stuck agate
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oh my god soon

torpid charm
slim summit
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is Shock going to beat Spitfire?

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Seoul is in trouble again zaryalol

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They're gonna have to beat both London and Houston next week

torpid charm
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r.i.p. SeoulDynasty

slim summit
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if Glads 4-0 Mayhem

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Seoul has to 4-0 both teams

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i think

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since Glads wins the tiebreaker

brisk roost
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RIP Seoul lmao

wary iris
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Glads won't 4-0 Mayhem

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That's for sure

ashen trail
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!schedule

somber yewBOT
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Overwatch League Schedule for Stage 3 Week 4
<:SFS:438251672712642571> SFS vs LDN <:LDN:438251672876351489>

Apr 28th 16:00 EDT (in 4 hours)

<:SEO:438251672754585602> SEO vs NYE <:NYE:438251672997724160>

Apr 28th 18:00 EDT (in 6 hours)

<:SHD:438251672599527437> SHD vs PHI <:PHI:438251672536481794>

Apr 28th 20:00 EDT (in 8 hours)

strong parrotBOT
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Dallas Fuel

HarryHook
uNKOE
Seagull
Mickie
cocco
OGe
aKm
Taimou

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

954 0 21 14
895 13 23 17
893 21 16 11
875 19 21 2
872 7 14 7
787 4 10 5
670 9 14 8
628 20 31 14

Boston Uprising

NotE
Kellex
Neko
Striker
Mistakes
Gamsu

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1378 32 15 1
1319 0 10 14
1219 26 19 12
1109 39 16 20
1060 33 14 21
973 19 19 13

MVP

Neko/Zenyatta: 1383 Rating

Play of the game

Mistakes as Mccree on Ilios: 4 Kills

shy wind
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These symmetra changes geoff is talking about

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wot

spring lintel
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Called it, london is having problems because rascal is out

ashen trail
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!teams sfs

somber yewBOT
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Overwatch League Team Names
ashen trail
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!schedule spoilers

somber yewBOT
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@ashen trail, We don't want to spoil for everyone... I've sent you a DM with the results

ashen trail
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!players sfs

somber yewBOT
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San Francisco Shock Roster
Moth

support

dhaK

support

super

flex

BABYBAY

offense

sinatraa

offense

sleepy

support

Danteh

offense

Nomy

tank

iddqd

offense

Nevix

flex

Architect

offense

torpid charm
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IDDQD zaryalol

warped axle
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IDDQD NotLikeSoldier

sullen berry
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IDDQD SFShock

warped axle
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SFShock 2-3 LondonSpitfire

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SeoulDynasty 2-3 NYExcelsior

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ShanghaiDragons 0-4 PhiliFusion

silk linden
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Shangai gonna do it

warped axle
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No pls

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Philly has suffered enough

silk linden
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not even gonna correct the typo so that my message stands as future proof

warped axle
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Future proof of your wrongness

vagrant fossil
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is iddqd playing today?

slim summit
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no lol

vagrant fossil
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rip

tawny sigil
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oh god the cring

vagrant niche
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NO MALIK

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dam I like Soe better

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for Malik's role

tawny sigil
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that was cringy as fuck

limber pine
vagrant fossil
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that shirt

halcyon fiber
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mlg will never stream owl anymore?

vagrant niche
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why?

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i thought mlg was in it with twitch

candid cedar
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aw
mlg has a better stream quality than twitch ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

halcyon fiber
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i was asking, not confirming lol

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noticed mlg wasnt in this week

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and yeah, i like mlg more, better quality and relaxed chat comparing to abomination called twitch chat

slim summit
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the MLG stream is sexy but

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I had some yuge problems with it

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teams contesting a point in overtime and suddenly the stream rewinds 40 seconds

halcyon fiber
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huh

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first time hearing, i have issue with twitch not being in sync with chat the longer you watch it

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twitch keeps continuing if you get buffering for whatever reason

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instead skipping forward to live moment

#

is it even possible to disable this "feature" ?

candid cedar
#

iirc mlg wont stream all matches

#

idk why

halcyon fiber
#

the rule of thumb is

#

if you dont know why, its likely about money

#

btw, shall we bet how many c9

tawny sigil
#

No tyler today, our ears can rest

halcyon fiber
#

's will london pull out today?

#

last series they did 2 days ago, it was 3 c9's i think?

rustic perch
#

still no iddqd, i'm actually curious why they even got him on their team if they arent going to use him

halcyon fiber
#

stream/pr/popularity/merchandising

warped axle
#

@rustic perch I heard on Oversight that some teams grab players not so that they can use them, but to sell them when new teams pop up for a massive profit

halcyon fiber
#

totally legit

rustic perch
#

are there even players out there that had no playtime so far besides iddqd?

halcyon fiber
#

players are just products in bigger events/companies

#

yeah, like 5-6 others

#

someone pulled list on reddit or overgg, totalling 6-8 such players

warped axle
#

Joemeister, Snow, Avast, Mendo, Numlocked,

rustic perch
#

afaik numlocked did play

#

could be wrong tho

warped axle
#

I'm not counting preseason

halcyon fiber
#

he played like one round?

#

map*

rustic perch
#

but still, that's just dumb. marketing sure, but.. meh

halcyon fiber
#

idk why, but when i see profit, kif from futurama pops in my head

warped axle
#

London please

#

Profit on Widow

#

Hooreg on Tracer

#

Come on now

vagrant niche
#

HUUUUUUGE

halcyon fiber
#

huge, but its 2cp ๐Ÿ˜„

#

and they held it, not even 1 tickl

vagrant niche
#

man that's so fucking stupid

#

i hate that

tawny sigil
#

sanfran was right... easy 4-0

vagrant niche
#

not even 1 tick

brisk roost
#

HOW DID THEY NOT GET A TICK

#

WTF

vagrant niche
#

freaking 2cp

tawny sigil
#

they cant win a 3v6... freaking sad

halcyon fiber
#

killing so many enemies at the same time/in short time is bad idea for 2nd point

warped axle
#

This point sucks

halcyon fiber
#

you want to kill them one by one

rustic perch
#

you even can lose a 6v1 on 2cp

vagrant niche
#

they need to fix that shit

#

it's so supitd

#

fix the map

#

they should had at least gotten 1 tick

jagged bolt
#

wow nevix got 3 and they still lose

halcyon fiber
#

lot of 2cp maps has this issue, its not only volskaya

vagrant niche
#

fix them all

#

this is stupid

#

this is not fun to watch

brisk roost
#

Ikr smh

#

Got a 3k bomb and still lose

#

NOT EVEN A TICK TOO

warped axle
#

If you can go from spawn door to the point in 1 Winston jump, it's a bad map. This is why Horizon is so bad.

jagged bolt
#

what do u mean the spawn is too close right?

warped axle
#

Yeah

jagged bolt
#

true

rustic perch
#

the spawn of every 2cp map is right behind the objective

#

thats the problem

jagged bolt
#

yeah and the attack teams spawn is the other side of the map

warped axle
#

Temple of Anubis handles it better since you need to walk around a corner to reach point B from defense spawn

#

Either that or walk really long

halcyon fiber
#

my guess why blizz is hesistant, is it to prevent snowball effect being too strong on 2nd point

rustic perch
#

compare the 2cp defense spawns with, for example, the spawn for Route66 to defend B

#

you'll walk at least 20 seconds to get back

warped axle
#

Snowball's aren't a bad thing imo

vagrant niche
#

yes

#

it's not bad

warped axle
#

It's just good ult economy

vagrant niche
#

the defense should take that in consideration

#

when they are defending

warped axle
#

Like if London are able to snowball point B it means that they A) Staggered the enemies B) Didn't waste ults C) Played the objective really well

#

That's just being a good team

#

Right now SFS are wasting a ton of ults

tawny sigil
#

damn is this the full hold

slim summit
#

the stagger is too easy and too punishing on some maps IMO

halcyon fiber
#

150k bomb on trans zen

slim summit
#

e.g. moon base alpha

warped axle
#

London can still take point A unless they mess up

halcyon fiber
#

4Head

rustic perch
#

SF wasted a lot but london doesnt really have more ults

#

1 more, the rest is also on 0%

#

and now both are at 0

warped axle
#

When I posted that they had more

#

It was like 5 to 1

#

Profit is so crazy

rustic perch
#

lets get a draw, lets G OMEGALUL

tawny sigil
#

classic profit

spring lintel
#

Mfw you have 2 bad casters Feelsbadman

warped axle
#

Babyface Profit

tawny sigil
#

STOP HATING SEXLER

rustic perch
#

i'm watching without sound currently, sexler casting?

tawny sigil
#

yes

rustic perch
#

meh

spring lintel
#

Both of them are just mediocre, they used to have 1 good and 1 meh

torpid charm
#

Sexler zaryalol

spring lintel
#

Blizz is crazy, they are selling slots for 60 mil

#

No way they are going through with that

#

40 mil max

inner shuttle
#

What's the reason for the spray spam?

spring lintel
#

Just muscle memory

#

Unless itโ€™s something special

inner shuttle
#

Tracer was spraying on every reload

#

Kinds annoying tbh

spring lintel
#

Yeah muscle memory

halcyon fiber
#

shaking also helps with resetting aim

#

or relaxing

inner shuttle
#

Hmm

halcyon fiber
#

prevents stiffness in general

#

depends on player

spring lintel
#

Yeah i do that

inner shuttle
#

Interesting

#

So how much do these players get paid?

halcyon fiber
#

like if youre stressed and presing mouse too hard, it makes aiming hard, shaking helps there

spring lintel
#

Depends but they are well off

halcyon fiber
#

like boxers jumping on ring

#

principle is similiar

silk linden
#

players get paid anywhere between 50k$ a year to 200K$

#

I think

inner shuttle
#

Nice

spring lintel
#

Some even more i would say

silk linden
#

we don't actually know for sure what the highest salary is

spring lintel
#

I think seagull is the most expensive one

silk linden
#

we know Sinatraa's 150k isn't even closely the highest

supple prism
#

seagull?

#

why

halcyon fiber
#

popular streamer

spring lintel
#

Most popular

silk linden
#

I think the Korean teams are probably well paid

jagged bolt
spring lintel
#

Koreans are getting scammazd i bet

halcyon fiber
#

back in sc2, salaries for pro kr players werent that impressive

#

despite sc2 being very popular back then

rustic perch
#

yea but "back in that day", esports werent so "big" like they are today

halcyon fiber
#

mm yea

#

starcraft is popular in kr for so long time though

#

since sc1 days

#

sc1 was released 20 years ago lol

spring lintel
#

The not slimmer caster is so bad

slim summit
#

it would be cool to see

#

in a situation like that

#

a total HP pool for each team

jagged bolt
#

profit popping off

slim summit
#

shock had 3 up but maybe 50 hp between them

rustic perch
#

well if you ignore the spaces between the hp bars at the top, you "kinda" have a summary

#

but i know what you mean

minor flame
#

What was that

#

Profit just ignored Moth at the last bar

rustic perch
#

it's not always "kill mercy first"

#

they had another targetfocus at that moment probably

opaque rover
#

yeet

spring lintel
#

Fury with the insane save

rustic perch
#

where are all the people in this discord ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tawny sigil
#

lol spam that ult button

halcyon fiber
#

oof

hazy arrow
#

almost ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

tawny sigil
#

draw still meant a loss since they're down 1-0 already

#

next match was gonna be a match point regardless of the outcome

opaque rover
#

Fury presses Q like no one else

#

You all think you press Q well but nah

inner shuttle
#

I guess you could say

#

San Francisco

#

Got

#

Shook

#

Kbye

hazy arrow
#

are there any speculations about what new teams for Season 2 could be?

jagged crater
#

hooreg is NUTTY

silk linden
#

probably more EU and Asian teams

hazy arrow
#

or maybe if any gaming organization is interested in it?

minor flame
#

Heard a Seattle team might come

rustic perch
#

the only thing i've heard so far is that the match times will be better for european viewers, which is absolutely fine for me

warped axle
#

More 4PM matches would help

silk linden
#

well for one the Divisions will be more meaningful, so at the very least the Atlantic division should play at more EU friendly times

warped axle
#

EST

#

Divisions did not work at all in retrospect

rustic perch
#

i mean it's understandable, they run the matches in america and they "can't" let the players do their matches at 3am or something just so that european viewers have better viewing experience

north beacon
#

is there a drinking game for OWL?

warped axle
#

The Pacific division is bad

north beacon
#

drink every time someone says reverse sweep

lethal plank
#

I'd love a Detroit team

warped axle
#

The Atlantic division is a nightmare

north beacon
#

or when you see a sign in the crowd that says "let ___ fly"

tawny sigil
#

Did he just call Tyler a rooster?

rustic perch
silk linden
#

it was really an unforseen scenario that the divisions would be so unbalanced

#

both seoul and dallas shitting the bed

warped axle
#

Remember when the top 3 was going to be SHD, Dallas, and Seoul?

silk linden
#

both LA teams not holding a candle to philly and boston

warped axle
#

Yeah...

rustic perch
#

shd was meant to be a top3 team?

silk linden
#

maybe not top 3

warped axle
#

People thought the team was going to be Miraculous Youngsters

#

It wasn't

silk linden
#

but people rated them as playoff contenders

#

I've only ever seen the top 4 as being the 3 koreans + dallas before the league started

rustic perch
#

i mean the main reason seoul is losing a few matches is that they are (for whatever reason) let their B team play so much

silk linden
#

that was what people were saying

warped axle
#

Before the league started NYXL was lowest rated Korean team

silk linden
#

seoul just need to do better than valiant, they don't care

rustic perch
#

dallas was so overhyped because of the xqc fanboys

#

xqc and seagull

silk linden
#

they'll clinch playoffs I feel

#

lmao no

#

dallas was hyped because they were fucking envyus

warped axle
#

...and Team Envyus

#

The only NA team to win anything in Korea

rustic perch
#

they mixed too much for being envyus

hidden vault
#

So much

#

Now where are they

cerulean plume
#

Tbh wouldn't have worked with the envy core either

rustic perch
#

the old envyus was able to do things

#

not the new one

stone creek
#

envyus sucked at playing dive

#

good at tanky/slower comps

#

still surprised they never went with the mercy/widow comp

#

and play around taimou more

silk linden
#

it turns out, Envy never strategized once in their lives

#

ever

#

they were so much better than anyone in the early days of the game, they just rolled with it

hidden vault
#

But how could they win then? In korea

silk linden
#

they were better

#

at least the first time

cerulean plume
#

Yeah s1 Apex wasn't prime Korean ow

hidden vault
#

How could they be better them the koreans? ๐Ÿคท

#

That was s1? Wow

rustic perch
#

after season1 envyus never made it THAT far in apex

hidden vault
#

Then they actually sucked

silk linden
#

not sucked

#

but didn't dominate

rustic perch
#

afaik their other best was s4 with #3 or #4

hidden vault
#

S7 S8 S9 guess they sucked

rustic perch
#

what

#

apex stopped at s4

minor flame
#

Wheres the Doomfist Sinatraa

warped axle
#

I still think the fact that Seoul (Lunatic Hai) still haven't taken a game of London (GC Busan) to be pretty sad

rustic perch
#

london isnt gc busan

#

london is kongdoo

warped axle
#

It's both

rustic perch
#

oh, yea just checked

stone creek
#

miro was the best winston, now he's just been caught up and passed

warped axle
#

The fact that they combined 2 teams is what's giving them problems atm

#

Totally unlike NYXL

rustic perch
#

miro was the best winston and zunba is still the best zarya, problem is that zarya just is too weak to get playtime currently

#

except for a few maps

warped axle
#

Zunba is the best Dva so he's still relevant

#

Miro was so innovative with Winston last year but his strategy is also from last year

#

It's all about Fissure and Gesture now

halcyon fiber
#

before miro hype there was awesomeguy

#

the first kr winston to play on monthly na tournies

rustic perch
#

lunatic hai always played more strategical than other teams

warped axle
#

Yeah and now on Florida he's made no impact

rustic perch
#

that just doesnt work anymore, or not to that degree

warped axle
#

EZ clap

stone creek
#

shock doing their best fuel impression ๐Ÿ˜‚

rustic perch
#

i mean it's still sad, lunatic hai literally had "the best" for almost every spot

waxen rampart
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ @ sfs

brisk roost
#

Lmao

rustic perch
#

best zarya, best winston, best ana, best lucio, only their dps was "just good"

brisk roost
#

Looks like SFS could get 0-4watch

stone creek
#

isn't whoru too young for OWL?

rustic perch
#

still think they're missing esca

warped axle
#

NYXL and London in 1 week ooff

rustic perch
#

he is

stone creek
#

whoru was their dps

#

esca just seemed to bottle a lot

rustic perch
#

yea, whoru and esca

warped axle
#

ALl I remember about Esca was that Geguri stuff

stone creek
#

i remember the game on eichenwalde against runaway for the final

#

the reverse sweep

rustic perch
#

whoru plays for an academy team, i think for philly

stone creek
#

lunatic hai were almost playing a man down esca was that bad

#

aye, fusion university

warped axle
#

whoru will definitely drafted into a team in season 2

stone creek
#

they got budget jjonak as their zen

warped axle
#

Alarm?

fiery reef
#

Alright. If Shanghai can get 2 match wins minimum. I'll buy a jersey to support them. Have faith! They took a match off Boston, whose doing crazy good right now.

stone creek
#

aye

warped axle
#

He's nuts

rustic perch
#

yea, whoru will be in for philly in season2

warped axle
#

ZachaREEE is great too

#

Philly doesn't need whoru

rustic perch
#

depends

warped axle
#

Who woul whoru replace

stone creek
#

wouldn't surprise me if whoru links up with seoul

waxen rampart
#

OMEGALUL

fresh turret
#

I alreddy want this shock set to end

#

pls

waxen rampart
#

DID YOU SEE THAT GUY

fresh turret
#

this is boring

warped axle
#

That would make more sense

rustic perch
#

don't forget that trades are possible

warped axle
#

I don't think whoru will be 18 by stage 4

fresh turret
#

the guy with the shock sign?

waxen rampart
#

the guy staring at soe

fresh turret
#

was he moth's dad as chat says?

waxen rampart
#

lul

fresh turret
#

idk

#

it was a semi-normal message, not spammy lookign

stone creek
#

oh dayum

#

shock with the yolo q tank line

fresh turret
#

lmao

#

WHAT THE

#

THAT HOOK

#

WAS BULLSHOIT

#

SIT

#

AHIT

#

I can't type

#

sorry

rustic perch
stone creek
#

the feed is real

fresh turret
#

yeet

#

I COULD USE SOME HEALING

warped axle
#

As a guy from Philly, I always root for Super but man he has not had a great game

stone creek
#

it's as if every time i see hog in a match, the enemy team gets 6 ults in 1 minute ๐Ÿ˜‚

warped axle
#

HEAL ME

waxen rampart
#

as a guy from sf

#

i am crying rn

fresh turret
#

sorry man

#

My regards

warped axle
#

Cause of that cost of living

waxen rampart
#

lul

#

you right

fresh turret
#

"the first kill for san francisco shock"

#

rip

#

sinatraa throwing

#

wtf

spring lintel
#

Isnt whoru a downgrade lmao

rustic perch
#

if they can hold them here and then just roll through, that could be one of the fastest series we had so far

spring lintel
#

Eqo is better than whoru overall

fresh turret
#

yep

#

lmao

#

reset the sign

#

I'd call that a c9

warped axle
#

Exactly why Philly doesn't need whoru

fresh turret
#

not the worst c9 but still

rustic perch
#

they had 3 c9s yesterday already, they don't need to reset

warped axle
#

Pretty sure he plays Genji

#

Philly has the two best Genjis

#

Already

fresh turret
#

Philly has 2 top 5 genjis imo

#

not the two best

#

imo

rustic perch
#

oh not yesterday, 2 days ago

#

then they need to reset

spring lintel
#

Lmao why are they using ults

fresh turret
#

It'd be kinda cool if I could root for a team from my area but I live in the middle of nowhere (europe) so my hands are free

waxen rampart
#

root for the dragons

warped axle
#

London?

#

I guess

rustic perch
#

because tracers can build up pulse bombs pretty fast

spring lintel
#

They used trans

fresh turret
#

I always root for dragons but tbh it's getting tiring

brisk roost
#

RIP Architect

rustic perch
#

i stopped rooting for dragons since it's not getting better

fresh turret
#

rip

#

rip tbh

waxen rampart
#

i mean they got a map from uprising

fresh turret
#

the whip was instant lmao

waxen rampart
#

they're going to get their win

rustic perch
#

yea they also got a map from seoul in stage1 or 2

tawny sigil
#

Easy 4-0 like Sanfran predicted

rustic perch
#

it's still not getting better

tawny sigil
#

reinforce was right to trust them

waxen rampart
#

you watch eyee

spring lintel
#

I can see shanghai not winning a single game in season 1

fresh turret
#

I can see that

tawny sigil
#

shanghai was doomed the second they lost undad

fresh turret
#

but I like being optimistic soI believe in them picking up a match

#

it's p much a religion

tawny sigil
#

cult

fresh turret
#

yse

#

yes

#

But imagine the other side

tawny sigil
#

cult where Tyler is chanting... WOOOOOOOOOOO

fresh turret
#

Imagine being "the team that lost to shanghai"

warped axle
#

I root for the dragons because Ado, Geguri, Fearless

fresh turret
#

There's probably some pressure onto the less talented teams vs dragons because of the threat of losing mby being there

#

idkk

#

Yeah I just like Geguri and Ado

#

that's why I root

slim summit
#

Shanghai is pretty damn likely going to go 0-40 this season

#

which is frankly disgusting

#

this shouldn't have been allowed to happen

#

their best chance at a win is going to be against Fuel next stage probably

fresh turret
#

SPECTATING MOTH LMAO

slim summit
#

but they'll still have to improve a lot in 3 weeks to get there

fresh turret
#

profit wtf

#

throwing?

#

you guys watching?

stone creek
#

"tracers can flank??" - Nevix

tawny sigil
#

Damn Sanfran back at it again with the crippling depression

brisk roost
#

Wow GG

fresh turret
#

that fucking

#

waht

tawny sigil
#

london finally got a win?... yay?

fresh turret
#

okay can't even call that a misplay tbh

waxen rampart
#

rest in fucking peace

slim summit
#

London just speedran that set

waxen rampart
#

boutta cry

fresh turret
#

they were on the point as far as I'm concerned

slim summit
#

we're a good 30 minutes ahead of schedul e

fresh turret
#

ain't that nice

tawny sigil
#

When speed runners get involved in MLG pro gaming

#

1h30

#

i think that is the fastest of this season

fresh turret
#

my friends still went to sleep before the hype matches began so no thanks london for speedrunnig

#

wait are they rly having a break here?

#

fuck

tawny sigil
#

what do you mean

#

its over

#

3 min break

#

that's normal

tight vault
#

is t-mobile the fastest afrog

fresh turret
#

usually it goes straight to analysts right?

tawny sigil
#

not always

warped axle
#

no

fresh turret
#

or is it just map 5s?

tawny sigil
#

they didnt yesterday

#

yesterday was way behind too

fresh turret
#

it's schedule dependent then I suppose

#

I haven't seen a break at this point in a good bit

slim summit
#

i tend to tune out when there aren't matches

tawny sigil
#

that's what i've been saying Anbodio

fresh turret
#

as the prophecy foretold

tight vault
#

so how badly did shock lose

tawny sigil
#

150k boi doing grate

fresh turret
#

xd

warped axle
#

Mr Ayy lmao

fresh turret
#

also could someone elaborate on why Moth is considered bad?

#

wait

#

that's a dumb way to ask

#

I'm going back to paladins fuk this behind schedule game

brisk roost
#

There goes Sinatraa's 150k widowlol

warped axle
#

PINE

brisk roost
#

Anyways NY will clap again

warped axle
#

He thinks Gladiators and not Valiant

#

Interesting

brisk roost
#

I SEE PINE

warped axle
#

Pine in game 1 that's weird

brisk roost
#

Looks like Pine will play a lot today

fresh turret
#

I hope it goes to map 5 in xl vs dynasty

#

it's unrealistic though

warped axle
#

In my heart I know Seoul can beat them

#

But

#

It won't happen

fresh turret
#

idc who wins, just give me a good 5-map match

warped axle
#

If there's one team for NYXL to actually prepare for, it would be Seoul

fresh turret
#

oh goddamnit the things that reinforce said shuold be evidence for him getting banned

#

xd

tawny sigil
#

OOF

brisk roost
#

WOW THIS IS SO ONE SIDED LOL

tawny sigil
#

What the fuck dude

warped axle
#

Jay Won more like Jay Loss

tawny sigil
#

3 final blow?

fresh turret
#

lmao this

#

this is hilarious

#

this is fucking amazing

#

I know it's just filler but

#

still

#

funny

#

that was rly fucking funny with reinforce and puckett

brisk roost
#

I love this lmao

#

Crowd's reaction of hotdog being a sandwich

tight vault
#

IKEA

tawny sigil
#

is it still a corn dog without the stick?

warped axle
#

"ween yer" - Dumbzz

tight vault
#

its a dog of corn

warped axle
#

I've always loved the post-match music

fresh turret
#

Okay that 20 questions thing was actually better than most comedy stuff I've seen

#

jUst because of Reinforce

#

they highkey didn't have reinforce in as much because he swore on stream

#

( not rly)

warped axle
#

All the Korean girls are fans of Seoul it seems

tawny sigil
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i heard that's like. the norm

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even if they're korean player, if they aren't on a korean team, fuck em.

fresh turret
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das racist man

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shoutouts to Alive playing for a whole 20 seconds

tawny sigil
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no that's patriotism

paper crag
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zuMba?

vagrant fossil
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LEE-bero

glad cairn
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ZUMBA

paper crag
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did they say LEEbero as well? lol

warped axle
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Can pronounce SBB right but not Zunba????????

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Was that recorded before the league started?

slim summit
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I think there must have been a pronunciation intervention recently

frozen crown
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From the distance i thought Crumbz is Zoe zaryalol zaryalol

slim summit
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A few names have changed recently

paper crag
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Zunba is now an aerobic dance for weight loss

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all hail Seoul Dynasty Zumba

slim summit
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Jawnus

warped axle
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Yanoos

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Oh-Jee

paper crag
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who's Oh Jee?

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OGE?

slim summit
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yep

warped axle
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Apparently it's Oh-Jee

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Not Oh-Jee-ee

paper crag
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oh lol

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whatever. he's oh jee ee

tawny sigil
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they started saying Oh jee ee cause of EQO im sure

paper crag
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boy can bitch if he wants

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ima call him oh jee ee

warped axle
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Oh yeah Echo -> EQO

tawny sigil
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Ee queue Oh

warped axle
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Echo would be such a cool name

paper crag
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be echo and get into OWL

tawny sigil
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EQO the dolphin

paper crag
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and you can be that player with the cool name

warped axle
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If i was in OWL I would be kuni for sure

tawny sigil
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give detroid a team? nobody wants a shootout on stage over a loss

paper crag
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i would be jj0nak

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lol

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so there are meko, neko, poko

warped axle
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Uber and X casting?

rustic perch
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can someone from security take this guy with that sign and just throw him out of the arena

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"LOL LOOK HOW FUNNY I AM WITH MY SIGN" get out

paper crag
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EQO is eko to me now

brisk roost
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I'm always gonna be Promethean

warped axle
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Zunba please

paper crag
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i always called him ee kyuu oh

tawny sigil
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which sign?

paper crag
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but he's echo to me now

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lol jehong

rustic perch
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jehong my boi

paper crag
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dafuq

tawny sigil
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gotta love the WW2 era glasses

paper crag
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giff zumba

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xuck fepher

coarse willow
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this is it

brisk roost
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Lol

coarse willow
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this is the roster

candid cedar
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predictions?

coarse willow
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other than xepher

brisk roost
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PINE LETS GOOOOOO

rustic perch
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i actually don't know why they bring in xepher instead of zunba

coarse willow
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this is ti

brisk roost
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BIG BOSS

warped axle
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That picture of Munchkin makes him look like a North Korean dictator

coarse willow
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we are winning this shit

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lets go seoul

candid cedar
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BIG
BOSS
PINE

vagrant niche
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HOLY SHIT
PINE VS FLETA

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LETS GO

brisk roost
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PINE LETS GOOOOO

paper crag
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shit though how bad is zunba's wrist if he's not starting vs nyxl?

candid cedar
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damn son

warped axle
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Sinatraa in the crowd with Babybay

candid cedar
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loool

paper crag
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unless seoul is just like "lol we're not winning this"

coarse willow
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seoul being smart with the roster for once