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@pearl stratus exactly, Kariv can only play Zen, they should’ve let Custa Moira and out in Verbo for Lucio
Or just not run Moira Lucio at all
Kariv can also Mercy really well, but yeah. He's their better Zen.
They would have been better with a standard Mercy+Zen
I think it’s because they were trying to flank right side and since it’s an enclosed space, Moira is good
Idk tbh
Very confused
I’d much rather have Agilities play the Genji
tbh that's the series cos junkertown
Idk what was up with the KSI switch in
to beat jake paul of course
I smell 4-0
agilities damn
its not an outlaws game without jake killing himself playing tracer
well
why couldn't it be R66 for last map ;_;
sooooooooooooon
same
Don't mind Val taking this one but I still want Outlaws to take this
So clean 4-0
After that 4-0 Val gave them on stage 2
Lmao.
noooo
That Widow v Widow
soon y
A reaper?
ye
Interesting
THATS WHAT YOU GET MEI
reaper on village is common
yea as a tank main in silver reaper is the most annoying thing in the world
yea this is a 4-0
I love maps where all the weird strats come out
that mei ult
yeah
gg
wow
EZ CLAP
wow
VAL lost the series in BW
feelsbadman
More one sided than any Dragons game
LAV gets 4-0ed once
In stage 2
Loss Angeles
When Valiant is the 4-0 territory instead of Dallas
damn houston is in 5th now
Muma 5-3 what
seoul have to win against philly tomorrow
And theyre all jump pack kills
which is very possible based on how they played against SF
man Valiant got shook eh?
Ye
shooketh
they were looking unstoppable for a bit and suddenly just not confident it almost feels
VAL in general tends to be an all or nothing team
it's one of their biggest downfalls
If val wins junkertown I'll be so disappointed
Won't be surprised, the pressure is off
Dad get off my stream
forced meme boooo
That shitty pun form Doa
@warped axle You know why that happened right?
junkertown was really tho only guaranteed win
If you paid attention to the half time thing with the extra access.
Houston had a new addition in their coach meet up.
😛
What
It's funny when Dallas strats work on teams that aren't shit.
lmao
Kyky is coaching on Houston, most likely.
Kyky is then awarded best Coach in the OWL
Hence them running a flawless Dallas strat.
its always the 4th map after a loss
Too little too late, sadly.
tru
But it'd be awesome to see another team beat Houston on Junker
its cuz the other team stops trying and the losing team has nothing to lose so they go all out
4th maps when its 3-0 is usually when you see the weird strats
and/or get reverse swept by Boston 😛
boston is 100% the new NYXL
!Tracer
@swift jungle, I've sent you a DM with all my commands!
!live
Los Angeles Valiant vs Houston Outlaws
Apr 25th 20:50 EDT (2 hours ago)
I believe one of the biggest reasons Boston won that match
finally
was because no one studied Mistakes
and they studied DK instead
and that went out of the window
i mean... at the same time Mistakes had very little practice himself
I think it also has to do with NYXL not caring as much right now.
so it should have been more even
They're willing to trade some losses for less burn out, if they have to.
Long term thought
Yeah NY can definitely afford some losses
@pearl stratus What about Dynasty?
Dynasty just has no synergy anymore.
Their tanks and supports are on a huge disconnect.
until you just dont do it
lets give some credit where it's due though. Western teams really have caught up on the skills playing field. Their teamwork is much better too than how it started out.
The easy solution to beating Seoul right now is punishing when Miro goes to far, which he does a lot, and then counter diving Fleta.
And you're pretty much done.
if fleta is taken care of seoul is done for
if not, its a gg
fleta is nutty
hes my dad
I mean, BOS managed to successfully destroy Jjonak too
Thats what I mean when they havent studied Mistakes
it's not like NY had a shit tier team in those games
i think seoul needs to go back to their OG A roster
they dont know his Sombra playstyle
No, Boston has the best coaching in the league arguably.
And they knew what to do with NYXL.
And that was shutting down Jjonak.
Theoretically, Boston should have lost all those games
Because if you force Jonak into pressure, SBB comes to save him more often than not.
Because thats how SBB plays.
Mistakes had far less time than needed on those teams
So it also saves your supports some.
NY may not have planned for Mistakes
but Mistakes really didn't have much plan in general
CUSTAS REVENGE
B A T T L E M E R C Y
and it's shown in several moments
Thats when coaching comes in
He's given a key advantage even if he hasnt had much playtime
I mean its a standard Kraft thing.
They just get good coaches, then they make good players.
It happens in any sport they dip their finger into.
Huk was one of my favorite Starcrafter's and, unlike apparently most people, I was pretty stoked to see him coaching
he was never a huge APM player but he was always a strategy guy
Soons face says it all there.
Btw.
That's an angry baguette.
Also he is using gaming glasses, which I'm honestly surprised we dont' see more of.
OVERWATCH LEAGUE BROUGHT TO YOU BY GUNNAR
In n out eps incoming 
casters 
@minor flame https://gunnar.com/
They stop certain light spectrums, which are known to attribute to eye irritation etc etc.
I personally don't like Gunnar.
I have a pair of J+S.
heh
Same general quality of Gunnar, half the price.
Im pretty reckless
need to cop me a pair
I got a pair of Gunnar when they were like $10 on some outlet sale
I dont wear my prescription glasses because its usually worse eyesight than my normal eyes
I got a pair because my new job was very computer heavy.
And I suddenly doing 8-10 hours on the computer at work.
Then getting home to game.
And it was killing my eyes/neck.
I still think its funny Kyky made his potential debut by coaching Houston into the Mei on Nepal.
need me some like clip-ons or something lol
getting prescription gunnars/similar ones is expensive
lost on anubis win on junkertown lol
soon fuckin on em rn
So.
Shit really
Uh.
A widow full hold
Is Valiant alright?
soon wtf
Soon pissed off
shoon
wtf where was this LAV
THE FLANKING WIDOW
loses first three maps
the whole game
full hold on junkertown
Wow Houston threw
goddamn linkzr getting hella outsniped
Fucking hell
what the actual fuck, val 
They put all their energy into Houstons best map
Val an hour and a half into the game
Valiant woke up.
YO
Thiccus
RAWKUS ASS SO BIG WTF
Soon: fiiiiiiiiiiine I'll go carry
can someone please explain rawkus' ass
i....
Sitting too long at Overwatch
literally what is that ass
He was the rarity
thiccus
id seen the memes but this is the first time it looked so...
wait when you buy tickets is it for the whole night or just one game
because everyone just left
xd
I love this Lucio music
Who do you think will win, Fuel or Mayhem?
They left because its Dallas vs Mayhem
mayhem 100%
Mayhem
So the nights already over for them
Dallas is on a huge mess
lets see that rusty seagull genji
Effect is not even there
mayhem 3-1
did effect get too triggered
Fuel 3-2
xd
haha, guess people don't think Fuel has a chance
they dont
Except for Shady
maybe they do
n't
I want both of them to win honestly
has akm ever even played tracer
isn't Effect not playing tonight?
i like them both
inb4 whole round to build a single pulse
dallas is drama more than esports now
I mean....... maybe they'll play better without him?
I know Effect is a crazy Tracer but he also hasn't been jiving with the team well it seems
sometimes teamwork does matter more
"secret language"
yea
already reveals the meaning
mannings*
winstons here
Texas means anything but "group up"
If anything, texas should mean "make sure there's a 2 hour drive minimum to the nearest neighboring town"
well who cares .. omaha or texas. . it is a trigger, has a meaning 😃
But I was siding on Houston the whole time
Well then
I guess with junkrat nerfs
jake left junkertown
and took over everywhere else
does anyone know what the whole sunglass meme was about
i dont know what a meme is anymore

LAV TEARS LMFAOOO
rip lav
LUL BREN
Bren is a treasure
blame blizzard for that
what's 7 for?
7 is like salute
i think its xQc
7
like that
there are still some ppl that are doing the trihard
that looks like pharah hand making a salute
well,now the emote will be used exclusively for racist thing
he wasn't banned
I'm getting really tired of random shit becoming a symbol of racism...
Racism is wrong and all but people need to chill out
he was suspended for things other than trihard7
the color scheme of soe's outift reminds me of something
aKm tracer
rip
seagull genji
yea and the whole muma thing
could be worse
well,the crutch of his punishment was that so called "racist remark"
yea
without that,the other 2 things won't even fly
how long do you think it will take akm to charge bomb
This is the first huge drama Blizzard has to handle in the esports scene
well,should be faster than the dragonblade
Its a pretty big one for the first handling
akm on tracer wat
you’re missing that Trihard 7 spam specifically whenever Malik’s on screen
I think it was executed decently
I wonder if unkoe's gonna be 'sick' again today
@minor flame starcraft 2 is esport you know
hes gonna find a way to make it take longer than if it was just charging regularly
this is gonna be interesting
will it take 2 akm gengu charge
dallas got no chance
hmm
sayaplayer and logix gonna rekt them
In the mean time someone donated their fine to the BDS movement which is notoriously anti-Semitic. I found that ironic.
who?
eqo?
no EQO was to ADL
huh
EQO donates to the anti defamation league which is against antisemitism
COCCO
maybe im thinking of a different event
COCCO WAS FREED
who else was fined?
the only other person i remember being fined for something was birdring
CHAINS HAVE BEEN BROKEN
OH SHIT COCCO!
COCCO??????
they donated to the FREE COCCO fund
Coco on tracer confirmed
so with Effect on the bench.... will Seagull play dps finally?
C
CC
seagull on flex dps
WOAH WAIT
I'm rooting florida
iirc they all wear makeup
THIS LINEUP
unkoe back
or some
THIS IS IT GUYS
akm sucks
HAHAHA RIP AKM
itshappening.gif
THEY BENCHED HIM BECAUSE OF THE DRAGONBLADE CHARGE
Seagull back on the DPS.
its gonna go to 5 maps
Gimme his Genji.
if Dallas goes 4-0 with this comp.... /r/competitiveoverwatch will lose their collective shit
oge sucks buttholes
might not wanna play OGE when your korean dps players are gone
hard to communicate
true
tviq pls
honestly, win or lose, I'm just happy to see this comp coming out of Fuel... we've waited a long time to see it
guys, lets be real, Cocco on winston sucked
@median saddle That's a good point
unless he got better
teams always mess around in spawn
^
gets reactions from the casters
adn chat
yeh
orisa attack?
yeah that's weird
"Throw it at the wall, see if it sticks"
Considering they have nothing to lose I wouldn’t be surprised to see crazy comps coming from them
Coco's revenge for not putting him in earlier
Cocco is so not great on Winston./
I mean it'd still be better than this.
But yeah
even rein would be better
this is just bizzare
could swap seagull to zarya, harry to lucio and go quad tank in
are dallas fuel good bad or evil
Fuel is chaotic neutral lol
WHAT
how many tires? lmao
3 tires
its insane how fast theyre making them
this fight is so fucking weird
Shit Mayhem is so dedicated
im surprised dallas stayed so deep for so long
It's been what..
this is so long
2 minutes for this fight alone, almost?
literally brute forced it
they need to reset faster
This Dallas Fuel Contenders team looks pretty decent
This entire map is just bizarre.
I feel like Mayhem shouldve won on that first point, they just cant connect any kills
the fact that the triple tank comp worked confuses me
5 tires w e w
ok so now they have dive tanks with more static dps
orisa on attack is just
even when they were allowed the opportunity
super strange
their healer combo is strong but also a-typical for pro
Harry playing bad
Like he's not playing badly the whole season
Call me slow but I just now realized Taimou is DPS right now.
I'm so used to seeing him playing tank.
"DPS"
"Flex"
Mickie still laughing after that
This is some bad Overwatch
Dallas seems to like prolonging fights that they've kinda already lost.
solo queue style
No strategy.
@pearl stratus It's like watching professional solo queue.
Just brawl.
It's not coordination and macro and stuff. It's six players trying to beat the shit out of six other players.
All we need is that one asshole that goes Sym.
"strats"
if only I could beam this map back in time to early january
Keep your enemy guessing by not knowing what you yourself are doing.
there comes a moment where you give up and just want gold dmg and elim so no one else can claim it
900IQ play.
this round
Sadly Dallas only looks good if they're playing by ear.
You can tell that the team isn't very... coordinated?
At least with this setup.
But when they're just relying on instinct they're making some plays.
Seagull hasn't actually really gotten to use a single tire that I can remember.
Harry.
Did Harry decide to slum in bronze?
Because he's dying to every self-destruct.
Effect left Fuel?
he needed a break
Nah he’s back in Korea
a well deserved break
He needed time off
see Fuel, see Mayhem resetting, you needed to do a little more of that
Na
I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
you can leave, but there are penalties for breaking a contract like that
They have contracts so I don’t think he could leave unless the team releases him or he’s traded
same the other way around (without good reason)
there are terms for quitting/release/trade/etc in each contract
and we'll never know the full extent of them all
but you can't just "leave"
not without consequence of some kind anyway
ouch
rip
gg
That one was hilariously seagulls fault though
He was going for a conc mine jump when he got stuck
One in a million
Hilarious to watch
All I know is I've yet to gasp more than Striker's mid air stick on this map
Strangest map I've seen
And we still got 3 more.
I'm waiitng for the next map.
I’m just happy to see mayhem fans in the arena. It makes me sad when they play and no one cheers
: (
I guess most mayhem fans are EU
yo i like Mayhem
is cocco dallas's most moral main tank
They’re also a Florida team so all fans are on the opposite coast
and i'm not EU
I mean
this time coco break out zarya
Its 11:30 pm rn in florida
not too late
but yeah
i wouldnt fly
out to LA to see overwatch
1130 is late for most people
We need Season 2 to be in New York or Philly
Yea same. I’d love to see them play and cheer them and stuff but I can’t just take a plane in the middle of the week and go to LA lol
isn't the eventual plan to have more stadiums built as more teams join the league?
Yes
so I'm sure depending on how lucrative the league is in the first couple seasons
we'll see more places to watch live, closer
I'm watching from east coast myself and it's lots of 1am nights haha
with only 100k viewers I dont think its worth to expand
they begging people to buy ticket, kinda says that its not doing that well for live audience
and i heard they're giving away tickets left and right
I mean, it's still not exactly pulling audiences like typical sports
it'll take time and some of those promotions may be less about desperation and more about just filling seats and building hype
considering other teams have already experessed interest in season 2
is the stream down?
it's not like it's dying either
like paused?
Yes
Did the stream stop?
yup
yeah my stream just crashed
same
Thanks hanzo
just look at twitch chat
The stream died for you guys too right?
RIGGED
yeah
goodnight OWL
Fucking Hanzo mains.
hanzo killed the stream
Nah in all actuality.
it's all Hanzo's fault
they saw that first game.
Lmao
Effect saw them lose the map and hacked the stadium to delay the match so he could get bacck to USA
ok so we're in agreement that Hanzo broke the broadcast then?
bby come back
guess ill never know tviqs backstory
@worn hornet Storm Bow so OP.
I see a screenshot
akm is back
...
this is a good map for soldier soooooo lets put him on pharah
wonder why they didnt play akm on that last map his widow aint been bad
yes because map 1 with seagull went so well.
@fluid dagger lol
Um mayhem??
Seagull actually did fine on map one (other than his tires admittedly)
Why is this working so well lol
I blame that mostly on bad resets and harry kept being out of position
Seagulls tires made me sad
harry was zoned by a uncontested widow. not really his fault
I still think they should have done taimo/seagull widow/genji
Fuel rolling this map tho
Gotta give Dallas credit
Florida what is happening??
jeeeez another visor
Taimou on 76??????
brawl brawl just like anubis
AKM LUL
oge is just so much better
now taimou on soldier.... still not Akm
what even is this team
just let the one-trick do his thing
Cocco's Winston made iRemiix look like Gesture
mayhem is gonna hold
is akm evil
Fuel still really really bad at resetting
and Harryhook (and friends) get hit with another bomb
lol
the casters are so confused
omg
I don't know what to say about this
put akm on soldier and taimou on mccree for god's sake
stop putting players on roles they're bad on
dallas honestly looking much much worse than dragons rn
maybe KyKy wasn't the problem after all lol
it's unconventional, but at least they're playing what they know
im not dragons could beat them the way theyve been improving and dallas hasnt
Zuppeh’s Moira > Zuppeh’s Mercy
@fluid dagger Since Kyky is responsible for Houston winning Nepal, I'm guessing not.
Beautiful tracking by taimou Kappa
are the dallas fuel immoral
immoral?
there's something evil about them
well they certainly give a lot of people depression
maybe if effect revealed he was actually in the states all along
He's with Kyky in the Houston backstage area.
So whats funny with this segment right now.
This is almost a word for word recreation of them talking about Stage 1 to Stage 2 Shanghai.
oh snap Taimou
still confused by AKM tho
is there something in his contract about minimum playtime? lol
how did akm go from respected dps to meme player
yeah it's not pretty
because Akm isn't playing what he's good at
in fact... he seems to be trying to fill randomly and he was never known for that
maybe with more practice he can but he's never been one of those flex dps that can play anything
also having winz defend him isn't making him look better either
he was known for his soldier and we barely see him play that... if we're honest... he was a one trick
they're trickling sooooo hard
really messy
Even if he's not on Tracer, I could see him doing okay on Sombra.
So sad, 5 vs 2 dps players
akm tracer or genji
Because AKM's Sombra wasn't horrible.
pick your poison
Genji, no question.
wow Thaimou had a good game
feelsgoodman
Yeah but that didn't make my joke work
Depends who was working within the team the best.
Rascal was pretty clear he was a shitty teammate.
Jeez, akm is just not doing anything huh
when has he done anything
their positioning is just... awful tooo
AKM, in my opinion, is pulling an Undead right now.
This is sad wtf
He's trying to do so much that he's doing nothing.
awesomeguy is so clutch
Dallas is pulling a Shanghai
Lmao Mickie
id say dallas is pulling a dallas
Shanghai can win at least one map.
ok that was funny
So we still have to see if Dallas can do that.
Fuel tanks need to work on their positioning too frankly
shanghai can't even win vs dallas
they've been out of position many times
Mickie has always been pretty bad.
Unsure why they've got Mickie in if Seagull isn't playing DPS.
what
Put in your better D'va.
people getting pulled into pit left and right what is this
Lmao
jesus christ guys
just keeps happening
tanks just straight throwing at this point
Mickie is the best.
Wow
He got dunked what...
Fuel tanks literally threw that away
3 times?
All around me are familiar faces....
people say that AKM isn't an one trick soldier, but he looks terrible on pretty much everything else
He's not a horrible Widow.
that's because he actually is a one trick soldier
he didn't even look that good on soldier this game either
widow is really the only other thing he plays that's on par
Taimou, when he's on, is a better Widow.
kept getting picked
Also his Sombra isn't bad.
I honestly don't blame Akm for that round though. That round was 100% the tanks
now that they've lost they'll put seag back in
You listen here.
Tanks kept being out of position and it's a nightmare to keep damage going when tanks play like t hat
Just because Mickie kept wanting to jump in the hole.
Doesn't make it Mickie's fault
is mickie evil

it wasn't just Mickie
yeah, how many times do you have to get caught by Orisa's pull to learn to avoid the really obvious projectile
is oge evil
the real fight was going on in that pit
lol
I need Dallas to win one game
taimou is literally the only good thing about dallas rn
Of course Logix had just as good of one though
I wanna see them let seag play birdninja
Meanwhile Kyky is over hanging out with Houston.
Teaching them the Dallas strat for Nepal.
Fuel's treatment of Seagull is just sad
Helping them win against LAV.
honestly
just once let the man play his favorite character
they won't let Seagull play but they can't trade him either
Akm loses rounds with shit performances over and over. They bench seagull on one loss.
They'd lose like 30% of their fanbase
and iddn't even let seagull play his shit
Don't worry though.
I'm betting Seagull switches teams or straight quits when the contract is out
Effect is gone all the way till Stage 4.
damn, that outfit
's only seagull fans
So we get to see this so much more.
They'll have to butter up Seagull reallly good to keep him
come contract renewal time
idk if any amount of money would let them keep seagull
So fun random fact.
especially after this season
Seagull himself has said, if you want ot make money it's better to stream, not to compete. Seagull wants to be a top player on a top team, not a lot of money.
On Map 2 of Houston vs. LAV.
Bani had 5 ED 4 Deaths.
He maintained a positive K:D on Mercy.
I wonder if this match was like a Kyky audition.
And when we'll get an announcement for him.
Cause that'd be some juicy drama if Kyky joined the other Texas team and helped them keep beating the other one.
Effect sad
Me before placing season 9-
This season im going to do placements as a dps
Me after placing-
Only zen
please keep the torb mei
Seagull may stay Mei
He plays her a lot, and well.
The Torb will swap to D'va.
Or we could see Hanzogull.
I could see them double snipering.
Called it!
nice one
Seagull, you can't stand on a dead junkrat.
lol
is akm getting permabenched for seagull
Seagull has been waiting all season for the chance to get on Hanzo
i hope he does, at least untill he gets practicce in
Akm needs more practice on his flex's
Too bad he's not a great Hanzo compared to like.. Libero.
Or even Linkzr.
Libero's Hanzo is just insane.
is seagull a better choice for anything not soldier?
problem is they've forced Seagull to be on Dva for a while
that pull thou lol
Taimou not even trying to hide from the bomb
Seagull either
is seagull getting permabenched for akm
working so far but 3rd point is always the true test
I like that they finally were like "Fine. Here's Cocco. He can play on Orissa maps. Leave us alone now."
Did we oh shit in sync?
yes
Lit
nice
so....
think tonight is gonna be all 3-1 with the last point flopping?
because so far were 2 for 2 on that
Harry looks sad.
Mickie gets good drugs.
mickie's never sad
it's like any emotion of being in the dumps is not in his dictionary
ruh roh shaggy
who would win in a 6v6 dallas fuel or mystery incorporated
yeah
Legit fuck blizzard for junkrat’s design
that florida wins graphic threw me off a bit
Wiat.
i keep forgetting that the final graphic is to say who won the match
I didn't realize that Dallas Fuel has been on a losing streak.
how long was it since they released their head coach?
more than a week by now i think
lmfao
Does the comm of a team that doesn't give a shit
Dallas against boston fusion and nyxl now
s u c k
Also tbh if anything this was a match Dallas was probably expecting to lose anyway.
Once you've officially lost I can understand why the comms would just go into fucking around.
even as dallas is losing match after match
it's like you can't let up against dallas
... That being said it does appear that Fuel's communication issues are still there.
Dallas isn't awful on paper.
because they can pull off stuff like 2-3 NYXL
All of their players are legitimately competent.
They just don't mesh as a team.
But the six of them can roll over a team on skill alone.
I feel like DF needs to pull a One Piece and split up into other teams
Learn how to work in teams
As hilarious as that would be.
Then reunite
Yeah
If anything I could see some sort of boot camp scenario once the first OWL season officially ends.
if dallas wants to do a firesale it'll have to wait till next season
Similar thing did happen in Dota scene where teams are much more fluid
after all transfer window closed
Where they all dick around with other teams and learn communication and shit.
Except it wasn’t that big of a success lol
BOSTON!!!!!! 
Do you guys ever wonder if SHD wins scrims?
Although I'll be quite honest imo, the biggest problem with Dallas is with the coaching staff.
i wouldn't doubt if SHD does win a couple of scrims
A squad with this many players and this much talent shouldn't be dropping games to so many of the lower tier teams that much.
thing is, scrims ain't real
Clearly there's something wrong with the Fuel's infrastructure.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly I just hope SHD doesn't go winless in this entire season.
That's just a good way to crush someone's spirit.
i'd say it's the same thing next stage
if the dragons can't do anything against the fuel, shock or mayhem
then it's very unlikely they get a win against the other teams at all
thing is, overall the dragons might've pulled their losses from 0-4 to 1-3 at least
they pulled a win on Bostons worst map in the entire game
but stage 1 they've had 2 matches where they went all the way to a game 5
this stage they hadn't did anything remotely close
and that's after signing the koreans
akm sounds so depressed
HES SO BORING
cwassant
Hey guys, i just want to ask, did seagull play tracer in todays matchup?
i have a feeling it's something he doesn't want to talk about on camera
mickie prevents akms suicide confirmed
i mean, DK couldn't possibly say out loud on camera "i like sexting kids"
all the people are so big
how many of dallas's players will survive to season 2 of owl
!vod
All Matches and Full Games
cool
when bot assumes everyone uses dark theme >:( https://snag.gy/dEVSb7.jpg
This is a sign you should use dark theme smh
