mistakes lmao
#esports-discussion
vestal berry
rustic perch
numbani in general sucks
ruby pendant
Is Sky's performance better than Freefeel so far?
minor flame
Damn the team was like 15 meters away from the tanks
vestal berry
its only 2 teamfights
forest wharf
sky hasnt died yet? 
vestal berry
lets see
forest wharf
so better than freefeel so far
verbal roost
a point!
vestal berry
look a zen isnt dead
ruby pendant
finally
minor flame
They should really just put Sky on the A roster
clear crane
oh crap shanghai took out FreeFeed?
slow linden
omg wait he didn't run out in front of the tank line and get instakilled is htis a dragons zen?
forest wharf
first death after multiple team fights holy shit
stable wadi
SKY WHAT
slow linden
he went on a vision quest with that ult tho
forest wharf
fuck nvm
minor flame
AND HE SURVIVED
ruby pendant
how Zen get that far
slow linden
he ulted all the way there
balmy wolf
AND HE GOT A KILL
stable wadi
See this is why we said he was worse
minor flame
Sky is a paranormal zen
vestal berry
how did he get up there?
ruby pendant
oh
ruby pendant
That was really strange
pallid cargo
'B' is a cursed syllable in chinese, it means misfortune
minor flame
He did it
vestal berry
good ult management from ado
ruby pendant
bring back Freefeel
stable wadi
Madoman 400 IQ play
clear crane
nah keep freefeed on the bench
clear crane
whos better, shock or mayhem
minor flame
Shock
minor flame
Mayhem pops off at times
clear crane
hmm okay so dallas vs florida shud be interesting
vestal berry
why are they split up like that?
minor flame
but Shock has consistency
forest wharf
neko rip
balmy wolf
I love mayhem but Shock has a better more consistent roster
polar pier
Ado plz.
pallid cargo
Does Geguri get a kill EVERY time?
slow linden
i mean if dallas are running akm on genji they can't beat any team in the league
vestal berry
bad ult use, fight was already lost
slow linden
that was ok
pallid cargo
that wasn't so terrible
ruby pendant
so close
minor flame
I actually thought Point C was gonna happen
ruby pendant
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
vestal berry
those last few feet on this map is really important
slow linden
as far as dragons performance that was a pretty good one
rapid bobcat
this is winnable for shanghai
vestal berry
id say they had 2.5 points
slow linden
freekill being gone seemed to help
vestal berry
those last few meters stall for so long
vagrant niche
yeah
vagrant niche
Freekill is like a masive sack of brick while swimming
slow linden
where is the boston that were playing like gods last week?
minor flame
inb4 Shanghai is Bostons kryptonite
ruby pendant
They still playing good
slow linden
like every one of them was playing like a top 5-3 on their roles last week
pallid cargo
Not-so-fun fact: In Stage 4, Shanghai has only FINISHED one map so far. And it's Numbani.
ruby pendant
Stricker has a great performance
minor flame
Diya tries to kill Sky
slow linden
i'm meaning the team as a whole tho
vestal berry
why are they so far back?
stable wadi
What is happening
ruby pendant
Bring back Freefeel
minor flame
I cant believe Diya just killed Sky
slow linden
that was wierd but boston has a billion ults so this looks pretty over
ruby pendant
Bring back Freefeel!
forest wharf
ado is not a great tracer
ruby pendant
@minor flame Same, wonder if teams will use Brigitte? Maybe that will change things up.
pallid cargo
Geguri's actually super solid
limber umbra
EAT DAT BOMB LOL
slow linden
brigitte doesn't really fit well with the current playstyles but we will see how she is worked into comps tso i suspect that in stage 4 brigitte comps will not look good but in a lil bit maybe
tight vault
vagrant niche
EZ Clap
reef imp
god, we can't win
vestal berry
brig will probably be used on Kings row point A and B defense
vagrant niche
Brigitta looking strong for Light house on Illois
nova pelican
incoming reverse sweep
vagrant niche
@nova pelican OMEGA 
slow linden
koth is looking like where brigitte will be for a lil while
vagrant niche
no lighthouse is just so compacted
you put her with Moira
that aint going no where
forest wharf
reverse sweep 
slow linden
lol lighthouse is a koth map
balmy wolf
I dunno if Brigitte will see that much play just yet. I think she’s still too new
balmy wolf
She hasn’t even hit regular comp. I assume most teams will go for the safe bet of mercy, Lúcio, zen
slow linden
but her healing outside of that is trash
maybe sh'll be run if they know theenemy will play dive
also pros mostly scrim rather than ranked
slow linden
and brigitte can be played in scrims
balmy wolf
Yea that’s the only way I kinda see her being played, maybe to counter a strong dive comp
slow linden
like idk if the threat of the hardest genji counter in the game is strong enough to stop dive
but she moght fit somewhere into dive
dunno what in place of
balmy wolf
what surprises me is how there hasn’t been that much Moira
slow linden
that's cos rez is too good to pass up with all these tracers and widows
getting random picks
ruby pendant
Moira is like another zen
balmy wolf
That’s true
balmy wolf
And zen does more valuable damage than Moira
ruby pendant
@forest wharf For safety of the public, it will not be released
Would cause a riot
@balmy wolf Yes, especially with the discord
slow linden
zen is hard to pass up rn
especially with ana out of meta
which means swapping out your moving rez
rapid bobcat
Whats the thing with the sunglasses?
nova pelican
yeah what is this dumb meme
candid cedar
the're starting to advertise the tickets huh...
forest wharf
balmy wolf
sanitizer meme > sunglasses meme
rapid bobcat
Agreed
rustic perch
slow linden
sky wasn't negative so probs better than freekill
in all honesty tho dragons looking better than fuel rn
ruby pendant
They still lost to Fuel though
That was a game they could have won
However, they still lost
balmy wolf
No effect today, so it seems like a ez clap for Florida
balmy wolf
I feel so bad for him. He’s a great player
visual glen
Dragons lost to Fuel because it was literally their first game with the new lineup
stuck agate
Dragons pls
slow linden
is it just me who finds it hilarious that they seem to be trying to put seagull on every role
balmy wolf
It’s so jarring cuz I remember before the League started everyone talked about how Fuel were the best of the West
stuck agate
Sike
balmy wolf
and everyone was hyped for Fuel v. Dynasty as the west vs east match. Then both those teams just been on a downfall
vagrant niche
THEY WOKE UP???
slow linden
well i mean seagulls genji was actually very good in terms of stats but then he didn't get fielded on it when it was a good map for it it was kinda wierd
and then he got thrown on dva cos mickie was heavily underperforming
jagged crater
OI wazzok
vagrant niche
HUUGE
slow linden
and who even knows what is going on with taimou
ruby pendant
Bring back Freefeel
slow linden
they are looking a lot stronger without him tbh
open bolt
lets go dragons!!
slow linden
genius
a real q tho is why is geguris sens so fucking high
first person spectating her gives ame a stroke
stable wadi
High sens for high IQ plays
forest wharf
that hook cuck
slow linden
sky the god
forest wharf
teabag spray lul
vestal berry
geguri bombs are so consisent
slow linden
huge bomb
rustic perch
cosmic gyro
trash team
rustic perch
cosmic gyro
cant even win a fight with 6 ults
vagrant niche
dafranLife
slow linden
diya and ado kinda fed there
rustic perch
hot compass
if shanghai win i will become a doomfist main
slow linden
was unfort
forest wharf
rustic perch
rustic perch
forest wharf
slow linden
if only ado wasn't feeding on tracer a lot of these fights
rustic perch
diya is doing good
balmy wolf
Reverse sweep incoming
hot compass
forest wharf
vestal berry
shanghai attacking NotLikeThis
slow linden
this is probably the series
forest wharf
balmy wolf
Not like this
vestal berry
damn
visual glen
Probably no one expected Dragons to win to begin with
forest wharf
rip
visual glen
vagrant niche
0-27
median saddle
another shanghai game, another 0-4
stable wadi
my heart
median saddle
it's really saddening
forest wharf
raven badger
boston is the top team this round though
rapid bobcat
Shanghai will win against dallas fuel next week you heard it here first
raven badger
shouldn't expect shanghai to win...
vagrant fossil
H O S I N G D O W N
nova pelican
that was a close map
hot compass
£50 says that shanghai never win a single series ever
median saddle
expecting shanghai to win anything is getting overhyped
stuck agate
oof
rapid bobcat
@hot compass dallas fuel next week
raven badger
I think it's possible vs. dallas at some point
forest wharf
they dont play against fuel next week tho
open bolt
yikes
rapid bobcat
@AnomanderBaked#1049 they do right
hot compass
tfw fuel crush them
forest wharf
they play against them in stage 4, but not next week
limber pine
raven badger
they're gonna get fucked some more lol
rapid bobcat
@forest wharf pardon me, I keep forgetting the 2
raven badger
rough schedule
median saddle
with this shanghai are 0-27
they are one game away from the longest losing streak in sports history
stable wadi
.______.
rapid bobcat
Really
hot compass
the reverse undertaker
median saddle
if they go 0-40
they'll have a perfect season
just not in the way they wanted to
balmy wolf
I’m just excited for Dragons in season 2
Hoping they’ll be totally revamped and become a top team
final river
I wonder how it feels to play the Dragons in a match
rapid bobcat
Folks?
median saddle
the dragons play like a solo que team
minor flame
what a nasty kill
hot compass
seriously those guys need to start speaking the same language
rapid bobcat
Find E-sports at the tab "longest losing streak"
stable wadi
my fucking heart
vivid solar
@rustic perch Don't emote spam please
forest wharf
oof
rustic perch
final river
What if Overwatch2 comes out before Dragons win a match
hot compass
Overwatch 15 will be out before they win
median saddle
NA will win worlds before SHD wins
forest wharf
sky is definitely 10000 times better than freefeel though
vagrant niche
Overwatch 2 if that even happens is probably going to be a PvE casual
balmy wolf
Overwatch 2: electric boogalo ft. Dante from DMC & Knuckles
stable wadi
Bruh the way they were blowing ults I thought they were in overtime
ruby pendant
lol
stable wadi
what
ruby pendant
Fearless going all out
balmy wolf
Why does it feel I saw Sky getting more kills than Diya
forest wharf
did sky just get out of bed? that hair lol
pearl stratus
His were more noticeable, Diya was beating Mistakes for 90% of hte map
balmy wolf
Gotcha
hot compass
boston look kind of smug
pearl stratus
Nah, Smug is usually how Philly tend to look.
Dallas tried to look smug.
Then just destroyed their own team.
Didn't even wait for another team to beat them.
Did it themselves.
final river
Sky and Geguri are definitely an upgrade
pearl stratus
All of them are.
balmy wolf
Dallas vs. Fuel
final river
Ado is really good too
pearl stratus
They have two problems left, and one of them isn't easily fixed and is easily exploited.
And thats going to continue to be their communication.
Their new coaches are super good though, and it'll keep getting better.
The second one is support positioning, which stems partly from communication.
balmy wolf
I really hope during the off season they really dedicate themselves to work on the language barrier and the communication problems
pearl stratus
They have been now, honestly.
I didn't expect Shanghai to do amazing this stage, I'm not an idiot.
median saddle
I think uber summed it up
pearl stratus
They rebuilt a team for all intents and purposes.
median saddle
boston lost two and still won the fight
pearl stratus
I mean that happens to a lot of teams.
hot compass
who thought it was a good idea to mix chinese and korean players that don't speak eachother's language?
pearl stratus
NYXL has an over 70% win rate on team fights when they lose first pick.
It has no real place in this argument.
@hot compass Long term plans.
Season 1, realistically, doesn't matter.
This entire season is figuring things out.
hot compass
shanghai to win season 2 confirmed
pearl stratus
Rules are changing, finals are changing, etc.
Only 12 teams, etc.
That'll be the real test imo.
fiery reef
Stage 3 is when its going to get real. I hear they are planning to clone Geguri and ADO for their roster.
stable wadi
if only
pearl stratus
Eh, Diya when he's not rusted out is actually one of the better Widows in the league.
fiery reef
I miss undead... wasn't great, but when he went off, he usually went off.
pearl stratus
He was a terror in the pre-season.
But he was also missing for three weeks in China with family business and not playing a lot.
fiery reef
well yeah, I'd heard about that, im just saying before that, he was probably one of their best players
pearl stratus
Undead wouldn't have lasted in the league long.
fiery reef
In comparison with the rest of the league he was a pretty high bronze
pearl stratus
Even without Drama.
He could only play two heroes.
He would have been useless by this point either way,.
fiery reef
? isn't that most people though
fiery reef
Some people are litearlly on the team to play one character
pearl stratus
And all he does is sit on the bench.
fiery reef
Tracer mains in particular
fiery reef
I'm just saying they do exist
pearl stratus
Striker also plays Junkrat quite a bit, SBB plays McCree and Widow.
Carpe is rotated on Widow/McCree etc.
Oh wait, Snillo.
But Snillo only plays 1-2 maps a week.
hot compass
there's some great tracers in the league
fiery reef
60% Tracer, 35% widow, 5% other ... is still pretty much a two hero player.
balmy wolf
I think it’s more of that In other teams like Shock or Valiant they have a large enough roster that they can have players dedicated to certain heroes
pearl stratus
But the bigger part of that is Tracer is useful.
McCree isn't.
McCree is niche.
Tracer can be played on every map easily.
fiery reef
Sadly... a lot of the roster isn't useful. Its impossible to make them all good .. but some kits are just so strong, that they will almost always do good, even if damage / numbers are nerfed
i.e. mercy
forest wharf
almost had 1 map...
jagged crater
maccree
pearl stratus
Yeah, just saying that Undeads hero pool would have made him useless.
fiery reef
Almost had 1 map is the unofficial official motto of Shanghai Dragons
stable wadi
Blizzard said that not all heroes are supposed to be generalists anyway
balmy wolf
I believe in one of the watchpoint segments they interviewed Danteh, and he mentioned how if they need a tracer they’ll put in Sinatraa, if soldier they’ll use babybay, danteh can do sombra
pearl stratus
Most teams are set up with overlapping other things too now.
More teams have multiple tracers now than single tracers.
fiery reef
I'd love to see maps designed in the future around arounds that aren't currently played, just to give them more show room
stable wadi
Ideally the solution is in the map design, specifically in creating "home maps" for certain heroes that makes them more useful or contains elements that encourage situations in which said heroes become viable
pearl stratus
It's an interesting new trend.
stable wadi
Oh hey look we had the same thought
pearl stratus
Shanghai: Ado + Diya, VAL: Soon + Bunny, Shock: Loltheirentirerosterminusbabbbay.
stable wadi
But yeah I do hope that's what happens
hot compass
"dumps his load"
stable wadi
They got their map ;~;
clear crane
Ayyyyy
hidden osprey
yay
fiery reef
oh hey.. they got a map lol
pearl stratus
But you can watch a game like today - and there was only 1 map really where there was a blow out.
torpid charm
I'm so happy
final river
Always a brides maid
torpid charm
I love them
pearl stratus
Only Anubis was really a blow out for the Dragons.
forest wharf
at least its not 4-0
cosmic gyro
they earned that map win GGs
fiery reef
If they win a game this stage before it ends ... still holding up that I will buy a jersery to support them if they win one
ruby pendant
Uprising look stress
desert furnace
ohhh
vagrant niche
Boston aint happy
torpid charm
they do look hella stressed
pearl stratus
They had a bad schedule set up, it most likely won't happen Othi.
desert furnace
not a 4-0!
fiery reef
Yeah I know @pearl stratus but ive had that set up since st age 2 started lol ... so they had chances.
pearl stratus
But -none- of them were really easy.
I mean Stage 2 Shanghai and Stage 3 Shanghai shares like.
1 Player, lol
nova pelican
big schlurp
torpid charm
the free one easy win and it wasn't even that easy
pearl stratus
Though this was the first night I didn't think Altering messed up at all really.
minor flame
Im surprised though, Shanghai has stopped being 4-0ed
pearl stratus
This was a really good support night for Shanghai.
balmy wolf
I can see maybe Shanghai taking a win in stage 4
pearl stratus
Which is huge.
ruby pendant
Bring back Freefeel!
pearl stratus
I think Stage 4 is going to be the epitome of what we want from OW League.
Any team will lose to any team if they catch them on a bad day.
fiery reef
This is bostons stage to pretend to be on NYXL / Londons level.. just like Houston did in stage 1 and Philly did in Stage 2. Next it will be Gladiators or Valiant who get to pretend to be as good.
pearl stratus
Look at Shock vs. Fusion last week.
Fusion put all their resources into NYXL, lost to NYXL.
Went into the Shock match unprepared and tired.
Got destroyed.
minor flame
Was a big feelsbad for Philly
pearl stratus
Still a lot, not denying that.
Just making sure I was accurate.
But yeah the leagues evolving to anyone being able to beat anyone, and I'm okay with that.
fiery reef
uhh im talking about finals? didn't they go 3-2 against London and then 2-3 against NYXL?
pearl stratus
Oh, I was talking about just last week in Stage 3.
final river
Luck lmao
minor flame
London did the same
pearl stratus
He's not wrong.
fiery reef
oh no I was talking about the stage finals ... you switched the topic on me
pearl stratus
None of Bostons wins have been like.. BOOM 4-0 over in 40 minutes.
It's been grind it out.
final river
why say that about your team though
pearl stratus
Because Huks always been realistic.
final river
he should pump them up
fiery reef
At least Shanghai didn't end with any 0 scores this time.
minor flame
They havent been 4-0ed this far in Stage 3 right?
pearl stratus
They have.
minor flame
Which team was it
pearl stratus
VAL did and I think Shock did.
fiery reef
A few?
minor flame
Hmm
clear crane
shock did not
pearl stratus
Shock abused the shit out of their communication and Danteh just Sombra'd it.
clear crane
I think LAV did
forest wharf
loool
pearl stratus
Oh Glad.
brisk roost
Val did it
pearl stratus
Both LA teams did.
brisk roost
Shock nah
minor flame
Lay some wisdom on me, whose gonna win the second series
clear crane
I hope Val
pearl stratus
This match is a cluster fuck.
nova pelican
hype for this match
pearl stratus
Val is better on Anubis, both teams are kind of shit on Blizzard World, Houston is better on Nepal.
And Houston is better on Junkertown.
hot compass
never saw a valiant match before, are they good?
clear crane
If Soon can contain Linkz it will be close
pearl stratus
Pressure is higher on LAV.
Because they basically have to take the first three maps.
minor flame
Junkertown is Houston's map which means LAV has to succeed on atleast 2 of the maps
Unless LAV pulls a huge upset
nova pelican
does soon have better widow stats than linkzr or close atleazt
pearl stratus
3, ideally.
pearl stratus
Because Houston has more time in 5th map.
clear crane
Stop benching Soon!!!!!!
nova pelican
🤔
pearl stratus
Soon is in a weird place, because he's being a dick.
nova pelican
?
pearl stratus
LAV has a 4:4:4 Roster right now.
With it being a mostly meritocracy.
Soon does not like this, or agree with it.
He trusts the coaches though
But its getting to him
You can see him slumping a bit lately.
nova pelican
oh right you mentioned this last time I should have watched that inside la video
pearl stratus
Yeah, Bunny is a better Tracer just flat out.
But Soon has better flex.
But you also have agilities for projectiles.
Which means that Soon doesn't fit every situation.
And I think he's a bit annoyed by not playing every map.
ruby pendant
!Teams
somber yewBOT
Developed with LOVE by MoonFire
nova pelican
he wants to be more than a hitcan specialist?
pearl stratus
Neko is low key a monster.
I think he just wants to never be benched, basically Sleuth.
fiery reef
#NotMyJjonak
nova pelican
are all French people like this smh
pearl stratus
Uh.
Kind of?
They're a very direct people, which can come off as arrogant/rude unintentionally.
pearl stratus
Me and Sleuth were talking about Soon and his general mentality.
minor flame
Ah
pearl stratus
But you can also see directly across the trade lines.
Where Unkoe benched himself after the Shock loss.
Like a salty baguette.
clear crane
Sky shud replace FreeFeel
minor flame
I think Sky was on par with Freefeel on the amount of recklessness
but managed to survive more
nova pelican
and akm apparently had some problems with rascal playing over him
minor flame
Apparently its due to toxicity
clear crane
akm has a better genji den rascal, ofc he mad
nova pelican
sky should replace freefeel full time just because of his wicked ass hair
pearl stratus
Sky probably will.
ruby pendant
Freefeel way better than Sky
ruby pendant
Sky can't compare, joke!
pearl stratus
So they probably pulled him back to get him more scrim and general map time.
minor flame
Is the state of pros very low compared to others in China?
ruby pendant
no
pearl stratus
It's not the worst, its not the best.
minor flame
Whats the lowest amount of pros in OW scene in a country
pearl stratus
Dragons old team is ironically now the best contenders team in china.
But it wasn't prior.
clear crane
uh the UK?
pearl stratus
Uh, probably some of the random ones.
clear crane
London dont got one English person on that team
pearl stratus
Nah the UK usually has no issues fielding a team for WC.
That's just not wasting 20 million dollars.
People need to realize that.
clear crane
We do. Its just funny lol
final river
lol rigged 4-0
pearl stratus
If I'm spending $20,000,000 I'm not getting some shit team just because they're local.
Okay. Malik needs a line up, because his hairs going wild.
But as of right now, Shanghai actually has some solid chinese talent to draw from out of contenders. Most are underaged though.
pearl stratus
But you get people like Eileen, etc.
final river
Yup and because Malik said it that's what the official score will be
pearl stratus
I think they were more talking about path to the finals.
clear crane
I hope LAV 4-0
coarse willow
nah outlaws need to win
coarse willow
i cant have seoul move down another spot
coarse willow
is junkertown a map?
pearl stratus
LAV is coming off a loss, too.
minor flame
London
coarse willow
ahh yes
pearl stratus
London showed up, finally.
coarse willow
actually wtf am i saying
i need LAV to win
if outlaws win seoul moves down another spot
clear crane
I dont think Seoul cares enough this Stage haha
pearl stratus
LAV and Houston are in reverse situations.
LAV has a hard stage remaining.
Houston has easier maps.
coarse willow
yea thats why i want LAV to win
pearl stratus
So I think Houston was probably able to prep for LAV more than LAV is able to prep for Houston
coarse willow
outlaws take a loss, LAV take a win then lose the rest
minor flame
or 4-2
pearl stratus
Yeah.
pallid cargo
Let's go Laaaaaaaav
minor flame
I never dove in deeply to either LAV or Houston to find whether team I like
tawny sigil
Random ear rape
minor flame
so I cant really cheer for one
nova pelican
no bunny no win
minor flame
Ill just cheer for Houston because they have a better color scheme idfk
pearl stratus
I like both teams.
clear crane
Yay Soon
tawny sigil
another kid holding his sign upside down.
coarse willow
houstons gota lose
pearl stratus
I like Space and Super, because I like to see young impactful players who are from the west.
pearl stratus
So has Super, both of them have become cornerstones.
coarse willow
i think LAV is a bit overrated but i think they can do it
other than junkertown
i think itll be a 3-2
pearl stratus
Nepal is typically a good map for Houston too though.
coarse willow
LAV
coarse willow
yea
pearl stratus
It depends entire on Soon and Linkzr.
I'm a little concerned about Agilities though.
Jake hasn't Pharah'd in a while.
However they could put in Clockwork for Nepal to counter the Agilities Pharah.
minor flame
I really hate how people how a huge xenophobia against the Koreans
It just doesnt make sense
pearl stratus
His Pharah last week was awesome.
coarse willow
agilities is good
clear crane
You always hate on the top teams in sports
pearl stratus
Oh gross.
minor flame
Yeah but if they apply that logic against Koreans they should all teams for having one
minor flame
hate all*
pearl stratus
Monte has the most cringe laugh. I hate it.
nova pelican
i like doa not monte though
clear crane
Lol but not all teams with koreans are the top
pearl stratus
I do not like his casting,.
clear crane
It just so happens the top team is all koreans
coarse willow
i mean korean teams are falling down the leaderboards so idk why they still are hated so much
minor flame
I guess its just the NYXL hype
people saying jonak is just a right click specialist
pine being overhyped
weird stuff
coarse willow
pine is insane
pearl stratus
Pine was overhyped up till Stage 3. He's blossoming now.
coarse willow
hes not overhyped
pearl stratus
But he got hyped over one crazy Ilios, then he never really repeated back to that.
coarse willow
pines nutty
clear crane
Pine was great stage 1 lol
pearl stratus
His first break out was never rematched though, honestly.
And then he didn't play stage 2 due to mental health (which is fine)
clear crane
thats how nutty it was
minor flame
When I see someone refer to pine its always the Houston match in Illios
where Pine does a 4k
clear crane
oh soon not on widow
candid cedar
o
i just noticed the command center has changed
fluid dagger
think boston will go perfect score this stage?
fluid dagger
only Val left with a decent chance of taking a game off them right?
candid cedar
they have a good chance though
twin dove
i missed shanghai and boston, was shanghais one map a good cemented win or just kinda lucky?
clear crane
wtf just happened
nova pelican
well that was quick
pearl stratus
It was a solid win. Close win, but solid.
minor flame
why blizz is killing dive
pearl stratus
They held A to overtime, got rolled a bit by ults through B, then stopped at last point
coarse willow
i never thought of that
twin dove
cool thanks @pearl stratus !
fluid dagger
SHD won on RT66 which is Boston's worst map in the pool
maybe even worst in general
pearl stratus
@minor flame Dallas, lol
minor flame
Yeah alright
nova pelican
2 tick nice push
fluid dagger
BOS have a sub 30% win rate on RT66
minor flame
Glads and Valiant
coarse willow
well
minor flame
thats the last chancef
pearl stratus
I mean Dragons have a 0% Win rate on Rt 66.
coarse willow
boston is kind of set this stage lol
pearl stratus
So it was a map both teams are garbage on.
fluid dagger
guess BOS is extra garbo on 66 then 😛
pearl stratus
I mean they already killed themselves.
fluid dagger
dallas will definitely defeat fuel next round
pearl stratus
😛
candid cedar
nah its gonna be fuel
minor flame
Leakboye says Cocco might be playing against Mayhem
pearl stratus
I think Florida will win pretty easily, though Dallas may take a map.
candid cedar
maybe itll go 3-2 for fl?
pearl stratus
No Effect.
minor flame
No Effect No Carry
pearl stratus
So we're going to get a Seagull + AKM DPS duo.
candid cedar
o
pearl stratus
We'll see if Unkoe is still being a bitch.
candid cedar
that might be worth watching then
coarse willow
AKM OMEGALUL
minor flame
Possibly a Cocco and Taimou sub
pearl stratus
Or if he's going to play.
fluid dagger
thing about dallas, they are certainly uncoordinated but they have the mechanical skill and every once in a while they show up for a map or two
if they can show up enough times in a row they're still a dangerous team
candid cedar
i wanna see seagull play dps 😦
fluid dagger
just inconsistent
pearl stratus
Honest opinion:
minor flame
Seagull complained earlier on stream that he grinded Dva for months only to play DPS
candid cedar
i feel like they've already screwed themselves
pearl stratus
They've never been a team that practiced well, they kind of preferred to wing it.
fluid dagger
Fuel is basically locked out of this season but they still have the talent... they just need to get it organized
candid cedar
completely for the rest of this owl
pearl stratus
And OWL needs that strict solid practice schedule.
minor flame
How come Seagull had all the viewers today and xQc had only like 5k that time? Really new to me
pearl stratus
Seagull is the chill view, typically.
minor flame
Was it the first time he streamed in a while?
pearl stratus
He's just calming to watch, just chats his way through things like the big pillsbury doughboy he is.
candid cedar
probably
fluid dagger
Boston is my team but I do love watching me some bird-boy
candid cedar
iirc he didnt stream very much once he joined dallas
fluid dagger
he's also pretty educational to watch as he talks through his thoughts a lot
play thoughts (not just drama)
pearl stratus
All I want from OWL right now.
hollow current
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
nova pelican
seagull also always looks like hes having fun
hollow current
that trap?
pearl stratus
Is for players to sit on the desk on days they're not playing.
nova pelican
rarely tilts all around cool guy
pearl stratus
Because I think it'd be really interesting and give more personal face time for them.
Like Jake or Seagull on the desk?
They're both crazy smart.
nova pelican
seagull on desk would be awesome
twin dove
shit make it one of the command center bonuses, a desk casted by OWL players. lol
pearl stratus
I don't even need a cast, lol
twin dove
(if u want to give them a reason to do it)
pearl stratus
But when they brought on Boombox it was cool
twin dove
cause u know blizz and money haha
minor flame
Which teams will be negatively affected heavily in Stage 4 meta?
pearl stratus
Depends what the meta is.
minor flame
Its the Brig Meta with the brawl irc
fluid dagger
I'm pretty sure the tracer nerf is solely to nerf Striker 😛
minor flame
Yeah the next patch basically
pearl stratus
I mean she's only going to be everywhere for low SR, lol
nova pelican
SO CLOSE
minor flame
Because Moira came out and she basically has no playtime in OWL
im wondering how Brig will be
hollow current
cancer
pearl stratus
Moira isn't very impactful, she just heals. She does nothing else.
minor flame
and see if dive will be really weakened by then
pearl stratus
It'll depend entirely by maps.
fluid dagger
I think brig will be huge in the counter dive teams... might cause issues for Boston's style. That said they've been adjusting much better than they use to
pearl stratus
The only space in which Brig will be huge is for shit sr.
hot compass
moira can put out decent damage
serene tendon
as long as dva is meta, moira will never see more than kings row
pearl stratus
Where people don't realize where you play what heroes.
hot compass
not enough to fight someone alone but she helps
minor flame
It helps more to heal
fluid dagger
I could see Brig/Moira combos tho
pearl stratus
We need to see what maps Brig is useable on (from a pro perspective) for Stage 4.
paper crag
Huh is Soon wearing computer glasses
twin dove
think brig could be cancerous in all SRs on rialto
pearl stratus
Rialto is basically Kings Row 2.
minor flame
Almost every team is heavy dive at this state
pearl stratus
And since KR is a Triple tank, yeah.
But then its a matter of do we see 0:3:3 or 1:2:3.
hot compass
wtf winston
fluid dagger
Outlaws did super well in the counter-dive meta before, Brig meta might give them a bit of a return to the glory days
minor flame
Freefeel on Brig
coarse willow
i think 123 makes more sense
pearl stratus
Lets see...
fluid dagger
interesting, no offensive snipes on this matchup
i definitely expected a linkzr offensive widow
pearl stratus
Map 1: Blizzard World/King's Row
Map 2: Hanamura / Horizon Lunar
Map 3: Lijiang Tower / Oasis
Map 4: Dorado/Gibraltar
For Stage 4.
minor flame
Is Rialto gonna be the next Blizzard World (by infamy) or the next Kings Row by how loved it is
coarse willow
i think rialto is definitely like kr
pearl stratus
One of the easiest to play/manage counters for Brigitte is a Pharah - which is playable on all the rest of the maps.
serene tendon
aaaay
nova pelican
rip
pearl stratus
That's huge.
ruby pendant
lol
pearl stratus
Anubis is not a good map for Houston.
minor flame
Basically 2 maps for Houston
ruby pendant
Valiant taking notes from Dragons
minor flame
unless LAV can surprise us
cerulean plume
Let's goo 
serene tendon
4-0 4-0 4-0 4-0 4-0 4-0 4-0
nova pelican
we need bunny
dusty compass
is anyone going to OWL on May 5th?
minor flame
lol no
dusty compass
i just got tickets last week
nova pelican
uh no i have exams
pearl stratus
The post match AMA is AKM today.
dusty compass
if anyone is going, hit me up!
pearl stratus
I wonder how many questions they'll need to filter lol
minor flame
I literally live on the other side of the country
twin dove
may the 4th, lul the audience memes
minor flame
Florida
nova pelican
imagine all the genji blade questions
twin dove
Florida as well, im there in spirit. 
coarse willow
ok im calling it rn
cerulean plume
I'm also from Florida but I'm an outlaws and glads fan
onyx shore
do you plan to bring the other ex-rogue members after hastro fire everyone but you and unkoe?
minor flame
I live in the middle of Florida and im surprised it gets worse in the southern part
coarse willow
LAV blizzard, LAV Nepal, Houston Junkertown, LAV Tiebreaker
nova pelican
damn soe got a deep v neck
minor flame
Soe has some interesting wardrobe
nova pelican
showing stomach too what a whore
nova pelican
[message deleted]
coarse willow
lmao widow does have a big v neck
onyx shore
did he just say "indiana not much but porn" ?
pearl stratus
Wild card.
minor flame
Damn KSF
coarse willow
coolmatt hair poggers
pearl stratus
Interesting because you can't prep for him really.
pearl stratus
He was mostly a genji.
That I remembe.
*remember
But anything could have happened.
coarse willow
i fuckin suck at projectiles
warped axle
I feel like having a strong projectile hero doesn't mean much against Houston
warped axle
Yeah Valiant should have pulled him out against bad teams
minor flame
"Favyur"
pearl stratus
It's a modified sustain dive, it looks like.
Since they're not running a widow.
You have no safe resses.
So Mercy is less impactful.
minor flame
I dont know if KSF shouldve dove in for Bani
It seems he was using m1 instead of m2 at close ranges for no reason
pearl stratus
Coalescence is just so easy to shut down for pros.
minor flame
The fuck is Kariv doing
coarse willow
(im a dva main)
minor flame
100 sens 100 dpi
pearl stratus
That blade shut down
twin dove
that massive team split
cerulean plume
minor flame
I understand the Soon sub
warped axle
... This is the same team that 4-0d Seoul?
minor flame
but KSF sub shouldve been in worse teams
pearl stratus
I think they were going for KSF being someone no one could prep for.
pallid cargo
why would you stick with moira for so long
pearl stratus
But it did -not- go well.
minor flame
Moira was a mistake
wary falcon
KFC
coarse willow
wtf is this madness
pearl stratus
The Moira+Lucio combo was the bigger problem.
coarse willow
houston takes this its RIP LAV
pallid cargo
its frustrating that val is doing stupid shit
pearl stratus
I mean they need... two ticks basically.
warped axle
Kariv throwing
coarse willow
cuz junkertown is a gg already
minor flame
I dont even think KSF was specifically terrible on it
It was the team around him playing a shitty comp
pallid cargo
if they dont win this map they're fucked bc of junkertown
coarse willow
yea
pearl stratus
I mean we can't tell.
warped axle
Agilities would have done better than KSF
pearl stratus
KSF did literally nothing
coarse willow
i just said that
pearl stratus
His blade got tire'd right away.
cerulean plume
Wait Endo were you the one that called the 5-5 record for the valiant this stage
If so you're probs gonna be right
warped axle
That is not unreasonable
minor flame
KSombraF
pearl stratus
Doesn't sound familiar, but it sounds like something I'd say.
The team is relatively untested against good teams.
Since (sorry Collin) Seoul isn't a good team anymore really.
warped axle
I LOVE LINKZR
twin dove
linkzr sneezed.
coarse willow
theyre working their way back up
pearl stratus
I mean we've talked about this.
twin dove
😏
pearl stratus
Until they replace Munchkin they're hard capped.
warped axle
Oof
pallid cargo
Val wtf
coarse willow
they arent bad
pallid cargo
Making the same mistakes
warped axle
Outlaws are bringing Stage 1 back
pallid cargo
its gg I guess
twin dove
"Regroup" thats a word i'd love to hear in comp.
warped axle
Great comms
coarse willow
haha "welcome to the OWL"
pearl stratus
I think that's fair.
pearl stratus
The only new player who didn't flounder their first game was like... Fissure.
Remember Sinatraas first game?
warped axle
KSF should have been put in earlier, he kind of looked like AKM
vagrant niche
WELCOME TO THE OWL OMEGA
serene tendon
i fucking alt tabbed for like a second and the games already over
brisk roost
I smell a 4-0
warped axle
Val might win Nepal
coarse willow
but thats about it
brisk roost
Even if Val wins Nepal, Outlaws is def winning Junkertown
coarse willow
yea
warped axle
Unless they think using KSF again would be worth it
coarse willow
3-1
warped axle
Then it's gg
ruby pendant
wow
coarse willow
gotta reverse sweep
cerulean plume
I think it was just an unfortunate sub for ksf
Not enough time to flush out a strategy with him
pearl stratus
The issue wasn't KSF, it was more the support weirdness.
pallid cargo
Moira and Lucio should have both been swapped off of after the first wipe
onyx shore
so,valiant is resting this week?