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hopefully this buddy i have sticks with me
and we can climb together
I just feel so out of place with people that don't want to cooperate you know
i got out of gold by playing pharah
and have bad game sense
in s4
@sharp cliff with reliable healer?
no
how?
i almost
did that
a few seasons ago
was literally 100 SR or less to diamond
and then went into 12 loses in a row
gave up after that
i'm not trying to be a dickhead to make myself look good or anything but you can hard carry in gold on dps
feelsbadman
i was almost stuck in there
I think
i'm a much better player than i was
then
I think i should be diamond now
heck, i'm not a pharah one trick no more
maybe it's because when i played in s4 comp wasn't nearly as shit
i play tank
I SHOULD be able to be diamond
the way I'm playing right now on quick play
and if this buddy sticks with me
I should be able to get myself to diamond with Brigitta
climbing out of plat is so aids
because people have half of an idea of what they're doing, but they don't execute it properly all the time
and when they don't that's you're only chance to win
or you can just out mechanic them which works too
if you're a dps god
naw, i'm not a dps god
i say i'm decent
at the heroes i play
but nothing special
I can't do anything by myself
I still need the support of the team
to carry hard
sometimes
I don't get it
or there's a miscommunication
and shit happens
this game aint that hard honestly
i have played games where it's just a struggle
and then
on the last minute
people decide to do what i say
and it's such an effortless win
naw man, fighting games are individual skills
you have nothing but yourself to blame
takes a modicum of effort from like 2 ppl who actually communicate and can win games
i mean team pvp
but they aren't team based
I corrected that already lol
but yeah man
it's not a very hard game to learn
like even if you're mechanically trash but have a sound understanding of game mechanics, and you actively call out, IF people actually listen you should win games no problem
like watching some of those OWL matches with Hog+Rein
Hooking into charges
the issue is getting those people who do not listen on the right game mode
or don't want to learn the game competitively
I hear from ppl all the time "I don't use VC" and I'm like wtf
I don't care if ppl are toxic. If you don't wana talk that's one thing
but if i say "hey canyou hear me" press F
there are so many people who just want to 1v6
like seriously
there's so many gamemodes
for that, why do that on qp or competitive?
heck
why play overwatch?
there's other games that will give you a better experience on that
or so i have heard, this is my first FPSish game i actually cared about
I had this guy too telling my, whoa chill dude, you are overanalysing stuff, i was just simply calling out strats and targets
like wtf
if you don't like that
why are you even playing this game in the first place?
you can always mute me too
^ty
it be like that sometimes
I wonder if shanghai wins scrims
Everyone else in the league are pro players too
Think of OWL as a rank
There will be players worse than others
This was from back in January:
We scrim Shanghai a lot and the scrims are never as one sided as the match last night. Also the Outlaws players were in the facility from 10am to 11pm yday and then watched vods after (~15 hr day).
Lay off the abuse/malnourishment claims imo ...
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It's why no one really plays meme comps against them.
They eventually will, its just not as simple as most people seem to think it is.
In terms of the general perception.
Like people who thought the new korean players would fix everything in a week.
Wut.
Their problems, at least, aren't attitude or player related anymore.
More just communication and positioning.
But communication doesn't fix quickly, not when you're mixing 3 of the hardest to learn languages.
At least they seem to be back up on an upswing.
Logix saved Florida from going to game 5 pretty much single handedly.
If Tviq had still been in, not Logix, that would have very easily been a game 5 scenario.
Yeah even the best teams say that communication is always the hardest part to get right
It's why Bischu is a low key league mvp.
LAG basically got to skip the awkward step.
Because Bischu could translate in real time.
I can imagine that he gets paid quite a bit more than the average player
Idk if his translating-talent was valued as high as it is now before the league started
So his salary atm might not even be crazy high
Are the salaries bound by contract?
I would assume so.
Most salaries are, with opportunity for pay raises etc.
But either way its a skill that will keep him valuable whether they play him or not.
And will keep him in the league/e-sport scene for a long time.
So couldn’t he get a pay raise then?
Maybe at the end of the season
Yeah that’s very true
Didn’t take my parents seriously when they said learning more languages will benefit you in the future
I mean its also on your education system.
Many languages are relatively useless/social only.
German is great in tech world actually
Now take a look at your cheese loving neighbours
the Dutch
Now thats an useless language
Spanish + English is also a great combo
I can read Arabic, but I don’t understand it
Depends on the theatre of business, I wouldn't need spanish at all.
But with the huge flux of international students knowing Mandarin would be huge.
I havent been keeping up lately, has SF been doing better now that Sinatraa can play?
not just sinatraa but also architect
they've been doing better
so odds of iddqd actually on starting main lineup? prob nil but at least he's scrimming
he coming on soon?
he's already playing
think they have a 12 man roster now so they can do internal scrims
so iddqd is dong something!
yay for IDDQD
they have 5 dps players, iddqd is on the bottom of that list
so many bench bois
that would be hilarious
@quick pecan Sinatraa is honestly probably their least impactful player overall. He opened up the rotation some, but I wouldn't say he's a top top tracer yet. He may grow there, but yeah.
Danteh and Architect impact more than Sinatraa does.
Hmm okay good to know
It's a hard swap from ladder to league.
The League makes the Ladder look like diamond, really.
Between LAN and just the consistently high level of opponents, its pretty noticeable for disparity.
My new favorite OWL-centric thing is just how retarded xQc is in terms of moving.
And its only OWL related since he is indeed moving in with Sideshow etc.
so once season 10 starts will brigitte be allowed in the league?
Only if Season 10 starts before Stage 4 begins, afaik
I'm pretty sure she will be yeah
sombra meta really helped danteh, he's a damn good sombrero
Sombra helped but, in my opinion, he knew he needed to grind it out so he didn't lose a spot when Sinatraa hit 18.
And he's probably the most improved player in the league.
He's also got a really interesting, highly playable, pool.
He's Tracer, Genji, Sombra, Junkrat.
You can rotate both your other DPS around him really easily.
he was training sombra a while back too when we first saw OWL players
remember that leaked scrim?
He and Mistakes were the two dps players who really grinded her out, and its noticeable.
anyone else think the sudden success of boston is a little suspicious? or is there something im missing
im not calling them out for anything, but going from a mid-tier team to the #1 team is kinda odd
no?
first of all, the difference between mid tier and top isn't that big
second of all, they're only 1st in the stage, 6 matches in
odd would be like, shangai or mayhem being first
and even then not that much
again, there isn't that much difference in actual skills between the teams
the ones ahead are just better organized
I mean, it's not like boston went 4-0 for every match this stage
anything can happen
geguri why
enjoying muhrica
she's eating like the true queen that she is
I mean did you see what her coach made them last night?
Those noodles looked mad good.
my friend was talking about it, I didn't get to see yet
Also apparently one of the SHD organization officers is tri-lingual.
Dude goes from Korea, to Chinese to English flawlessly.
that does look good ashell. Geguri is so cute, I love her
I love that there's tons of fanart of Geguri wearing a frog onesie holding a huge knife now
and she retweets all of it
I like the last pick of Fearless like 'Oh shit noodles. Yoink'
perfect
Fearless is so damn handsome
He fights with SBB for having korean anime hair, definitely.
Kariv is so funny
Why is the Twitch chat set up to not let anyone talk ever?
I've got another 85,000 seconds until I can send another message >:c
Has shanghai won a game yet?
no
😢
Carpe 🐟 Take 🐟 My 🐟 Water 🐟
Jjonak deserves it
wait what top 5
Carpe got a really deep hero pool, and he can play them all on OWL level
He's pretty much another Birdring
he is one of the players that have really surprised me in OWL
He wasn't even a hitscan, he was the flex support on his old team BK Stars, Bunny was the hitscan
what top5
this is triggering me what t op 5 you talking about
Best players in the league I guess
For me Jjonak, Profit and Carpe are a given, and the other two spots are honestly a tossup between a lot of players
Jjonak, Fissure, SBB or Striker, Fleta (if he steps back up), Possibly Gamsu
if I spoke of just skill and what they do for their team
but due to it being voting
I'd say just turn everyone except Jjonak into a top widow and you have your list
Carpe also fits in there
Best non Korean player?
it's hard to say, right now my head says S4
I say Muma
Muma is a valid candidate, but it's so darn hard to judge MT's
For me honestly it would be jjonak, jjonak, jjonak, jjonak and jjonak jjonak, SBB, pine, sinatraa, maybe poko for those filthy dva nukes
or jake for those spicy jakerat plays
my top 5 i mean
linkzr have been slumping lately
Yep
Best non-Korean imo Linkzr, Danteh or Surefour
Oh Danteh yeah
Though I like to say Sleepy contends too just because I think he's good
Daneth is good because he have shown a valid improvement and have a huge hero pool
sleepy, meh
Sleepy third best Zen?
maybe
Him or boombox
Sleepy is my pick for best Moira in the league as well as being a very solid Zen
He's like the only Moira that ever gets spectated
I haven't watched him in a while how has ryujehong been playing?
health issues?
still benched
health or mental, yes
o boi
playing support in a struggling team must be hard
interesting bundle of games today
Will OWL have an off season ? I wanna see some more pros playing MM
A full 6 stack of Seoul Dynasty would be nutty
a lot of OWL will play in OWWC probably
Sadly
I don’t think that they should, I like seeing new talent in WC
Like WC is kinda a place where you can show off your skills and hopefully get picked up by an org
uh no
it's for the best of each country to play each other regardless of professional teams
Contenders and Open Division is for OWL pickup
Here's your top 20 now:
without US, Korea, Thailand, and France
Here's the first 8 out:
Yeah, like it or not the UWWC is going to be dominated by OWL.
Well I mean Flower made his name last WC
Flower was already a championship winning player
Man screw you guys, can’t you let me at least pretend I’m smart
no
yes
y'all got predictions for today, it's hella early but I'm curious
vs 
vs 
vs 
yeah I'd agree with that
I also agree with that
Dallas vs. Florida starts at 11 p.m. for me but I really wanna see how Dallas plays so I'll sacrifice my sleep
I agree with most of that, but I wouldn't be surprised if Shanghai randomly get a map off of Boston.
Boston is undefeated yeah, but most of their victories are hard fought grind outs.
It's not some huge disparity between them and other teams. They just grind it out better.
Boston is doing their best Philly impersonation with all the map 5s
Except they don’t get reversed swept
i think houston will take the game vs. val
It's too 50/50, and both teams are having some inconsistencies in their DPS.
Soon has been playing kind of off the last week or so, so had Linkzr.
If we get the same Linkzr from the last game, it could go to Houston.
If Soon shows up it could go to VAL.
There's no Route 66, which is huge for Houston (Junkertown instead)
But that's in game 4.
So VAL have the first 3 games to take it, they'll most likely assume they'll lose game 4.
Junkertown and blizzworld right?
Yeah. Houston has been iffy on Blizz.
Both teams are kind of hit or miss on Anubis.
Wait I remembered them being good on bworld
Last BWorld against the Fuel was a disaster.
Yeah but then Fuel just
They won more because the Fuel was bad.
Yep
Not because they played well.
Is Nepal in the match or is it Ilios?
Anubis and BWorld are their problem maps.
thank mr sprite
VAL is hard to predict, because they really haven't played many great teams.
So we don't know how they perform on their maps.
they've had it easy so far
I wouldn't say easy, Shock is a surprisingly good team that just played like garbage against them.
But Dallas, Shanghai etc early in the stage.
LAG was tough, they lost anubis but its really the only sample size with this new crew.
LAV is coming off a loss, which could either go in their favor as something to prove or hurt them mentally.
Houston is coming off of a win.
If there's a season 2 or 3, they should add at least 6-12 teams by then. The matches seem too repetitive.
Uber's AMA was hilarious.
Though I feel bad when he said he doesn't get meat pies. We have an Aussie Meat Pie company in Boston.
He's on the worst coast.
^
west coast worst coast
Why is everyone talking about carpe like he is the best
I didn’t watch the last 2 weeks
Did he do something?
Why are you surprised
He's been a league MVP contender since stage 1
And his team is doing well now
He's a consistent heavy load bearing dps for Philly and the only one in their roster to not be subbed out in any given situation.
The map may call for Snillo, it may call for Eqo.
But it always calls for Carpe as the core.
Hah, lets be fair. He's mechanically amazing, but until he grinds out his hero pool he's on the bench.
He's on Philly not Fuel, they're not forced to play a OTP.
Though to be fair to AKM his Widow got better.
Just inconsistent.
the fact that they acknowledged the existence of r/OverwatchTMZ on Watchpoint is pretty bonkers if you think about it
!tracer
I swear I can understand japanese sentences better than this exchange https://puu.sh/AaczU/4fd4a59954.png
Watch shanghai break Boston’s win streak
and Dallas to double up with the DPSGull
there is NO WAY in HELL
that BOTH shanghai and Dallas win tonight
I will donate 100 euro to charity of @silk linden and @indigo barn choosing
to make it easier, 50 euro per upset win 1 of the 2
do it anyway. Don't hold starving kids hostage of bad OWL teams performances
100 euro can feed an african kid for like one year
Veex: Brolly, umbrella, Pluggers = Thongs

Diamonds in the rough. Pretty sure there was just another nerf mercy thread in COW.
they're not taking the tracer nerf welll tho
The tracer nerf mostly applies to high level OW, she's not a problem on lower ranks
yup it's pretty obvious the tracer nerf is an esports nerf
It's hit or miss, it affects her viability in some situations but not in most.
I still think it should scale up -just enough- to make it still able to kill bastion/tele/etc.
But that'd put it so close to 400 again, its pointless.
feel like this is akin to the ana nerf
Eh its Blizzard. My only real concern is the same as its always been,
You either nerf/buff around pros or casuals. They're stupidly doing both right now.
And I think it'll bite them in the ass.
people are fine with the 300 dmg nerf but arent ok with the loss of range
like the killzone for 200 hp heroes is significantly smaller
so a stick is basically a kill for that one target most of the time
I mean that's the thing with tracer
she is way 2 dominate in higher
and she did need a tone down
especially vs tankier units which she could already abuse
cause you don't want to nerf her skill
she can still one shot most of the cast
it's just ult her is less effective against tanks which sucks for the the bronze/silver/gold/plat tracer mains
It's not like it toally trashes the character
the only thing she can't kill now a zarya w'/ o, orisa, and bastion
there are buffs that clearly show pro or casual balanc
Yeah I'm not even talking about Tracer in general when I talk about casual buffs and stuff. You can see a distinct thought pattern between pro buffing/nerfing and casual buffing and nerfing.
For instance the (original) Lucio changes - Buff to casuals, heavy nerf to pros. Thankfully its pretty much entirely been undone, so its back to a better point.
Junkrat nerfs are primarily done around the casual crowd, in my opinion.
Hanzo is a bit of both.
Junkrat is a bit of both
Projectile size is pro, tire speed is casual.
Because ladder play rarely sees tire elimination even when its going obvious routes.
I'm not even against most of the changes, I think Blizzard just needs to pick the place they want to balance from and stick to it.
Because ladder based balances are going to have insane impact on OWL.
The skill disparity is too huge for it not to.
Wow it’s already been a month since DF went to tiebreaker with NY?
I feel like it was just a couple weeks ago
That’s what i thought too until some guy flipped out on me saying 4 is a few, not a couple lol
But yeah i meant like a week or two
Tonight is probably the last realistic chance for fuel to get a win this stage
And probably not even that, especially without effect
Although it could be interesting to see df win without effect lol
Just imagine the twitch pasta if df won without effect
Heaven forbid they beat nyxl, uprising, or fusion
How long is effect gonna be gone for anyway? This week? Until next stage?
Wait effect might not come back to the Owl
I mean, better to violate your contract and hope to get a new team next season than play for the Fuel right now.
Lol
I wonder how big of an impact a contract violation would have on his career though
Like yes, DF was a burning pile
I mean it would never go down like that.
But still, do you want a player who just ditched his team?
They'd just release him like Rascal.
Yeah hopefully
Because DF also doesn't want to be known as the team that made someone violate a contract to quit.
Because good luck getting new players with that over your head.
I think it’s kind of a two way street as far as violation goes
Hopefully he can leave on a good term
I feel like DF just needs a complete overhaul starting with ownership change
So much bad name on it already
It's not the ownership, judging historically its EnvyUS as a whole.
I do want to see effect in a context with a good team though
When Tailspin left it was because they were lazy and didn't really like practicing that much, preferring to just wing it.
Same with Hulk, really. Though he had options to go coach.
Good supports, good tanks, good team atmosphere and cohesion
effect needs one hell of a break, poor guy
I mean, Effect also needs to man up a bit too.
This is his second time running home to Korea this season alone.
I feel like he could be up there on the contest for top tracer with the right environment
It's only going to get worse.
Like yes, Dallas now officially makes Shanghai look like a well run organization.
But running off to Korea every time it happens doesn't look good.
And Dallas needs to hire literally anyone with some balls.
When was the other time he ran back though?
The players have way too much power, from what I can tell, on Dallas (I could be wrong though, just looking at the trend)
I guess he was back before the matches started for the week?
I don’t remember effect missing a match
Start of Stage 2.
A okay
Must have missed that match
Wait, i think i watched it
Wasnt that akm’s debut match
Where df beat lag
Yeah, and people thought that Dallas was suddenly getting good.
Then in Dallas style they fucked it all up.
They won their first two stage games (Shanghai and LAG).
Then lost every other game in the stage.
Yeah, that’s when DF started the tradition of “new stage, new Fuel” phase early every stage
Looking like they’re finally getting their shit together
Then disintegrate mid-week 2
I think the LAG game was a pretty convincing victory too
Looks like Dragons are winning their 1st game today.
against Boston?
Easy clap
"/s" is needed
man i really hope dragons finally win a game
not going to happen this week
Does shanghai take home their first W tonite
This week more likely this morning.
Shanghai dragons get reverse swept in an effort of Uprising to sow more tension in the lead-up to the stage playoffs

My one thing with opinions
before they hit live or are tested in live comp
is that people tend to overthink things
the only time pbe changes have ever been that big and needed nerfs are mercy and bastion if I remember correctly
and usually it's the pros who say "oh this is such a bad change" "This will ruin the meta"
when it really doesn't
so who do you think is going to win? Shangai? 
4 - 0 
3 - 2 
0 - 4 
Can london spitfire win tomorrow please
My florida bois still have some struggle
Well technically in 2 days or whatever
correct
Im only going to watch the first match its already almost midnight
inb4 boston gets rekt by shanghai after beating nyxl
it is 12:42 am for me
2342 forme
dang
Yeah I'll watch shanghai getting raped and then I'll sleep
2 am for me and have a meeting at 9am easy clap
no, but it would be hilarious
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look like 0-28
at this point i want to see them win.
no
let me rephrase that
i want to see who will lose vs them
i just watch the dragons match tho, don't really feel like watching the other 2
!schedule SHD
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nice bot
ur a nice bot
thank mr Tracer bot
He messaged us asking if we'd like to us the bot and it seemed cool so we said yeah
!live
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that bot lit
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looks like it
nop
Shit its left to right
I tried to read it down
I was wondering why there was only 2 matches today

lf>dragons upset boston
are the dragons actually going to earn there win today
yall want them to get a pity win and thats not how this works
most likely not
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Shanghai Dragons vs Boston Uprising 
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Los Angeles Valiant vs Houston Outlaws 
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the dragons need to earn there win why cant people understand that
Malik with the sunglasses whaaaaaat
FIRE ON
is it sunny in the arena?
DENIED
Boston outdated LUL DreamKazp getting investigated LUL Shanghai Activated
I love Bren ugh
-81 LUL
Sideshows arm getting betting is my healthy wish for sideshow
"all eyes are on that 2nd game", sike. I just wanna watch Shanghai and Dallas vs. Florida
lol
#SaveEffect
@limber pine If Dragons improved their play from last game, I think there's a chance for Dragons to win. It may be smalll, but a chance is chance!

inb4 depression
Hank Hill supports Dallas Fuel
Bring out the Symmetra
!teams
DAL
PHI
HOU
BOS
NYE
SFS
VAL
GLA
FLA
SHD
SEO
LDN
haha, if that works, I'll be too weak
Oh cool, it uses the icons.
naisu
african bees?
GET 'EM BOYS
rip
Altering with the jaw hurting
Altering had a tooth pulled lmao
what the casters dont know is that shanghai has been hiding their power level the whole time
GEGURIIII
and they will use it today
i give it 30 secs into the game before freefeel is dead
freefeed
30 seconds is generous lmao
30 secs, i screen that and i'll remember you on this
Inb4 they lose because Altering just got back from the dentist
freefeed has no extra power level
lol
Geguri is an angel
#GeguriDeservesBetter
crowd is dead today
what is note doing?
note is dead
Dude's taking a pre-game powernap
geguri killed him
rip
they enter from the side now?
deadnote
Warming up his eyes 
Oh yeah I noticed that, that's weird isn't it
will buy a zen shanghai skin as my next if he lasts longer than 30 secs
It was better when they entered through the crowd and could interact with people
YESSSSSSSSSS UBER YESSSSSSSSSSS
technicalities oof
@forest wharf I will buy a boston skin of whoever kills him if he dies within the first 30 seconds
lol
but I'll hold you to it
LUL
i will do nothing
I will do
If they ignore Tracer, it's over for the Dragons.
watch this shit, they are gonna shlob on the dragons knobs
Wow
PAUSED
Setting up the rigged match
Lmao
Freefeel pauses for the rigging
STALL CASTERS STALL
not at all rip
lol
all access is so retarded
"SHIT WHAT DO WE DO"
Stats denied
"uhhhhhh T-TANKS"
giant fucking purple bar
this is what I love about uber / x, they spend airtime analyzing instead of making stupid meme jokes
jebaits
30 second timer
They still make jokes though
HE LIVES
BETTER GET THAT ZEN SKNI
shiiiieeeetttt
W A S T E D
@forest wharf YOU GOT A ZEN SKIN TO BUY
WAT IS HE GOING TO DIE LAST????
2nd to last oh shit
Taimou the best player in the league
Fearless tf

lol

noice
This is rigged

fearless distracted them enough for the others to pick some dudes off
Uprising paid to lose
High IQ dragons
9000 IQ freefeed
Yoooo
ghost of dreamkazper came in and powered up all of shanghai to level 14
get on point pls
FreeKill!!!!!
POINT
sticki bomb
yep thats why they are bad here
Yeah they did that last time too :/
it's the same thing from last week
shanghai is allergic to volsk B
they didn't fought on the point
They legit won Point B several times last time
But didn't touch
It's so frustrating
welp
4Head Hello 911 4Head Shangai wants to fight me, I'm scared 4Head Oh what's that? 4Head Stay on the point? 4Head
Put that in twitch chat you filthy spammer
i heard that lul


Oh shit
okay and WOULD YOU NOW FIGHT ON THE POINT
You have startled the Witch
WOULD YOU KINDLY GET ON THE POINT
ado was the only one on point again for like 10 or 15 seconds
GET ON THE FUCKING POINT
GET ON POIIIIIINT
POINT
lol
Freefeel lol
freefeel plz
what is the deal with freefeel?
FREEKILL
is bad
WHY does he die first, so often
*freefeed
hes actually retarded im pretty sure
is it positioning?
Because he doesnt know how comunication work
who knows
A lot of it is still the com trouble but
Does SHD know that they're supposed to cap point B
Freefeel? more like freefeed
It can't be just that now
It has to be positioning. dps and tank were going on point B, supports were still by the choke
Maybe teams just focus on the zen more?
Did they not review the florida VODs?
Seems like they intentionally take him out first
Did they not learn after coming so close?
lol
Again this week with not pressuring the point.
What's the issue? They're making the same map-losing mistakes again.
they need to find a multilingual korean/chinese speaking support main to sign
this is why they get 4-0'd today
I’m thinking more 3-1
Zen has lot mobility, while Mercy has higher mobility. This makes Freefeel an easy target.
They'd get 4-0'd anyways but why are they making the same mistakes again?
cause they bad
If there's communication problems, then Freefeel will be a target more often, since he lacks mobility
simple as that
wow
wat
looking like excelsior
a hold
I would laugh hard if they did
MADOMAN UNLEASHED
??
WHAT
freefeel got a kill?
FREEFEEL KILLS MISTAKES?!?
Freefeel lmao

that was about 0.4 akm blades https://akm-blade.xyz/
Lmao
FREEFEEL LAST TO DIE
That timer is so mean
WTF
???
MADOMAN
Hi
hahahahahahaha
honestly dragons look majorly improved
not on attack
ADO WHY
rip

lol
that was ado
That wasn't a C9
forgetting to deflect
That was a backcap
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ado was like we gonna c9 why not throw whatever fight might happen if we get on anyway
KEK
It’s been 0 days since the last C9
hahaha, can't nerf my spirit!
tfw people still don't know what a C9 is 
for a split second
Dragons allergic to volskya point B confirmed
a c9 has just become not getting on point when they have people avaliable that can get on point and losing the round tbh
freefeel does suck ass
but he seemed better on def than last time
That's a dumb definition 
tbh if they had a decent zen they might be alright
We are excited to welcome JjoNak, our newest member to the Shanghai Dragons
LOOOL
Valiant have 12, and Dynasty too i believe
dynasty have 12???
Yeah
@vagrant niche lol
Dynasty B Team vs Shanghai
nah they have 11 now since they swapped out bunny
oh rip
i mean apparently ryu asked not to be played in the games he wasn't played and they looked actually horrible without his shot calling
Maybe they'll get some contender players soon?
nyxl gets flower tho
not to mention other issus
THE BRENJI OMGELUL
phillu also has 12 now
Such a shame then
The beginning he was, but now he's more decent
just leave voice chat
I don't think he's a one man show player
houston has 12 too
lmao this fucking guy
Wait valiant traded bunny??
I love this caster
oh finally they bring sky in
thankk the lord freefeel is gone
Oh shit
NOOO
Wait is Sky any better
idk man, sky was shit last time he played too
sky feeds less tho
@forest wharf weak!
even if he does about as little
They actually took him out, wow
would be nice if he's god now
It would be funny if Sky has more troubles than Freefeel
Ye like how Roshan is a god now
being a dragon’s support has gotta be hard. Supports are usually the shot callers and they got such a big language barrier
the coach was probably like, FREEKILL get out REEEEE
i mean it's difficult to be worse than freekill
triple heals lul
Geguri on Zarya POGGERS
dont think so
Nope
nope rip
Dive meta is still here
😦
Jebaited
honestly speaking the only non-korean on the team that hasn't had major issues is altering
boo what a whore
Guess other teams will be looking to have Ado
what do you mean they got a tick
wow

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