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london is channeling the england national team
doesnt hit shots
Boston reverse sweep, here it comes
ironic
londons stats are basically on par if not better than Bostons stats
still loses though
it's called pulling a three lions
New London > Old London
Mistakes get that widow in to gear bro, lets roll these oddly Korean looking English. Throw a tea party on their ass.
"oddly Korean looking English"
lol
this is MERICA and I will not be corrected
Finally stepping up
where the hell is hooreg
lol
man london got super out of position
and now they're gonna lose high ground
lol for a second i thought note was gonna get profit
striker's been getting caught out a lot
i fully expect a london victory
Mistakes π¦
Boston not doing so hot. I thought they were best in league?
Mistakes needs more practice time on the widow/genji π¦
im surprised he missed mistakes there
profit's gamble paid off
should hav had him dead to rifghts
kinda
lol flanking hog
profit wat
profit dodging hooks somehow
i mean he died anyway but still
London is getting the picks
so going to game 5?
tf happening
REVERSE SWEEP
We need a new universal choking sign
nus again
oh shit 5th game
I'm thinking an airplane
oh man that's a really bad stagger
Why did London switch
let's run a single support over and over in front of a widow
That look of despair lmao
yikes
Closer was great, Hago was great,why switch them out?
Boston reverse sweep DO IT!
this is getting hype
oh shit they managed to hold that, dafuq lol
Nus played like crap
Poo
this is nutty
single support is pretty standard on that point
but he was playing all sorts of weird positioning
they all were franly
profit was getting way too bold
oh shit just got an email that i won 100 owl tokens
congrats
even hooreg was way behind enemy lines at bad times
What skin will you get?
they should've run the pirate ship
hmm second shanghai skin for trolling probably
Like he once flew over to Profits dead body alone while Gamsu and Neko were right next to it
Boston loves them some game 5's tho
And he gets super staggered because of that
Oh wow Tracer actually got a nerf on PTR
Pulse Bomb down to 300
Pulse bomb damage 400 -> 300
that's actually pretty huge
Seems like a Winston buff tbh
which will still kill most of dps and supports
reverse sweep me bby
you prob. got it earlier

I got mine like last week and just got the email today
i haven't got it since like 4 weeks ago
but i already spent mine
Yeah mistakes really needs to stay away from these picks until he's ready
he's not a "bad" genji but not quite on the top tier level yet
bad blade
Still better than AKM
lol
i love this AKM meme so much
i giggle like a damn school girl every time
ouch hack on blade
mistakes plays mccree?
profit saved that one
Profit please stop hiding
so is it just me or is london playing Boston's comp
and boston decided to do something entirely different
nice
Wow
feelsbadman
another crap EMP
both supports just got corralled into a corner
Striker is nuts
Eyes on the fking prize
STRIKER IS NUTS
WHATTT THE FUCKK
jesus
STRIKER THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD
NICE
nice
1:1
The announcer just kinda crumbled at the end there
hype AF
That was an awesome round
damn it 1:1
when mistakes plays sombra it's amazing how different they look
this last round is gonna be intense
This is good tv

So fucking busted mann
Boston is good on this part
They embarrassed NYXL on this map
Boston also has more experience than anyone on this map 5
lol
can't deny that advantage and they flaunt it every time they get here
Did Arhan play today for houston? I missed it
Monkey got hops lol
Striker needs his own throne room in the boston team house
cmon Boston pull it back
lol
quiet, moira is god
Striker OP
That ultimate
lmao Profit with the throw
OMG
PROFIT
insane
That's the biggest mess up
NICE!
ACTUAL THROW
holy shit
BOSTON WINS
wow
C9 plz..
what a match
ACTUAL THROWING
what
OMG OMG OMG
lmaoooo
omg
JAYSUS
Profit throwing lol
PROFITWTF
Report Profit please
π π«
REVERSE SWEEP!!!!!
YES
da fak
That's toxic
NO
PROFIT WITH THE BIGGEST CHOKE
PROFIT THROW
ACTUAL THROWING BY PROFIT
WOW
i don't get how london let that happen
nooooooooooooo
Profit holding down that wall.
REAL THROW
London went from hero to zero in the span of three games.
London messed up big time
I mean
PROFIT CHOKE HOLYY
and that profit ult...
shitt
I don't think Profits bomb would have actually made a difference
sigh
WHAT
But it wasn't useful.
but mistakes hit a BIG EMP at the end
snatch defeat from the jaw of victory
Did that just happen
HOLY SHIT
that was the literal definition of choking by the spitfire
Kellex and Neko did a good job with the heals
THIS IS CRAY
end me
wait what the shit
I'm glad Mistakes finally brought out Sombra.

did they reverse sweep!???
@night thunder he's upset

FUCKIN AWESOME BOSTON π π
@slim summit rewatch that last point if you can, crazy
Wow
Great match
Profit with that throw lmao that's going to come back to him
Note is sick in both ways
the whole match was worth watching
good job Striker
Striker and mistakes with an insane stall
Striker just went insane
it wasn't as much of a steamroll in the first three maps
That was close
pretty damn good for the first ow league match ive watched
Because the Patriots/Belichek thing is literally "Do your job"
i think ill watch more
Thats the best match youβll be getting for a while
uprising v spitfire is always a romp or two better than many matchups
Org slogan going to Note.
lol
@hot compass good thing you didn't start yesterday because those games (other than LA vs LA) were disappointing lol
OWL must be paying the top 3 teams to throw on purpose lol, so that they don't keep winning the stage prizes and loose viewers.
that game was absolutely insane
That throw by Profit...just odd
Loose viewers would just be your mum π
losing to a reverse sweep must suck
scratching head
Now if we're talking about losing viewers.
all that work for no reason
NYXL isn't really trying right now.
Because they're worried about burn out
So they're practicing a bit less and scrimming less.
To get back some mental health towards the Stage Finale.
They can more than afford a few losses
that's going to be the talk of the night
Yea they can afford it.
Commentators haven't started talking about the throw yet
Gamsu and Striker carried so much...right plays at the right time. It all panned out.
The chances of him sticking mistake are super low, and that EMP was the problem.
that mistakes/striker stall was clutch
tfw all the korean teams are getting slaughtered this stage
Uh.
not new york
That's what I was saying... but you @pearl stratus said something about viewing and mum? lol π
NYXL got their third loss of the entire season.
Oh, you used loose in stead of lose.
I was calling your mom a woman of negotiable affection β€
Because it was available on the typo.
what a match guys
If the top 3 teams keep on winning... it'll lose viewers
SCRIPTED
I don't think its scripted at all, honestly.
^
London is in a weird funk, they have been all Stage 3.
itβs not lol
And Seoul has been on a decline since Stage 1.
Their cohesion has been deteriorating while other teams have been improving.
mad respect to boston for beating the top 2 teams even after the dreamkazper scandal
seoul is like the dallas fuel of korean teams
but games like these is what keeps viewership high
You cant script a player as good as striker
props to the coaching and management for holding the team together
Paid throws?
Well when you have striker and gamsu... very solid
Better than everyone else in the league.
Even NYXL.
I would say Boston has the best coaches.
boston is so good at working AROUND gasmu and striker
NYXL is just flush with a lot more mechanical talent.
Eh, i'd say NYXL still has better coaching given the record
London is very likely not going to make the title matches
you cant argue with results
If any other team had lost their star player like that, they wouldve fallen before winning again
Philly would have to lose to Shanghai
not a boston fan but i do give their coaching credit
You can't, but look at the growth.
but not boston
but Boston is definitely a top 2 player in the league
NYXL hasn't really grown, in my opinion, they haven't needed to.
Striker > SBB? I think it's to early to say that
Boston is basically a moneyball team.
It's a bunch of people most people didn't know much about, who were extremely coachable.
And they're turning them into monsters.
That's an insane coaching staff.
boston handled the dreamkazper situation VERY well. also mistakes was ready
50% sticks...
Nah, Strikers not better than SBB.
get the FUCKKK outtt
SBB, realistically, is in a class all his own.
Because his tracer style is so unique.
London Fuel confirmed lmao
So its not even a real comparison.
lol
sbb is the best player in the league IMO
London vs Spitfire
I would say Striker > or = to Effect however.
London with a similar record to Dallas Fuel π
I agree..SBB is SBB
effect needs more support from his team
The closest Tracer to SBB, purely in style (not in skill), is Jake.
Which makes sense.
I think Striker is better hoenstly
@vivid mesa no, it's Jjonak
Since SBB and Jake are really close.
he's the number 1
jjonak is my FAVORITE player
he's the best player on the league right now
Boston top 3 HYPE!
I said in stage1 already that striker is one of the best tracers π
honestly i do not disagree with you
Boston is a top 2 team right now tbh
Excelsior won next game
and I think in any given day Striker can take out any tracer in the league in a 1 on 1
I mean they may not, depends which NYXL we get.
boston vs valiant may 3
Uprising vs Valiant this stage is going to be a crazy insane game
So if you were OWL / Blizzard...and you had the top 3 teams keep winning... that's loss in profits from people losing interest...so what do you do?
Slip some bills to the top teams and say..."...wink just put on a show.."
Makes you think.
Definitely have to rewatch the VOD's
The only one I would argue with with Striker is SBB. Because the play styles are so god damn different. Not to be a Sinatraa echo.
there were some plays that just didn't make sense.
have you ever watched proffered sports @tall sierra
But mechanically the rest of the leagues tracers play very similar.
PROFESSIONAL
Like a NBA player shooting wayyy left of the hoop
bunny is unique for sure
Bunny's not unique, he's just... Bunny.
His style is very similar to Strikers.
Which is similar to the rest.
@tall sierra Nah in that situation as Blizz I'd hype the hell out of those three teams. With only three, you can give more spotlight to them and the players in them, to build hype that way
@tall sierra I mean anything's possible but it's not like Boston didn't make mistakes too. Also London had all the pressure on them while Boston had the momentum. Even pros aren't 100% immune to pressure.
Bunny is probably closest in overall type of play to Effect.
More lone wolf aggro tracers.
That is true..
bunny at least has a good team
Just seems odd ya know...
@tall sierra i get what youβre saying
Holy Crap and Boston has to go against Seoul tomorrow. Talk about a bit of a schedule :P. Going against London and Seoul in the same week
@tall sierra The last thing Blizz wants to do is risk undermining its integrity as an esport developer and promoter
On another Note...Shanghai looks very different now with the 3 Koreans
Made a difference.
But too late for them
geguri has made a HUGE difference
They'll be interesting in Season 2 imo.
they beat NYXL and london 3-2
Fearless too.
seoul's not too bad at this point of time for them i'd say
Once Fearless and supports get on the same page, they'll be interesting.
Seoul, you better watch out
@vagrant niche holy shit lol
Boston's coming
Because his high aggro Winston play is amazing, but he's got a huge disconnect with his supports.
ado has been stepping it up, filling the hole that undead left
Seoul is shaking in their booties, Uprising out for blood this stage
Diya is finally getting back into his Widow groove.
Which is nice.
Because Diya is a great widow.
Dynasty is probably practicing their ass off right about now lol
seoul is gonna have to throw harder if they donβt wanna make stage playoffs
what about snillo's tracer ?
the real question is if and who'll SD get their first win from this season
Snillos tracer is really good.
iunlock - Today at 10:02 PM
So if you were OWL / Blizzard...and you had the top 3 teams keep winning... that's loss in profits from people losing interest...so what do you do?
Slip some bills to the top teams and say..."...wink just put on a show.."
Makes you think.
Definitely have to rewatch the VOD's
Bit too Tinfoil Hat imo
His problem is his lack of flex, imo. In the long run.
Sitting very comfortably
London and Seoul are fighting to see which team can throw harder
I think London has just been shaken since losing to Philly
what about snillo's tracer ?
philly dps is very nice
For right now its fine since Carpe and Eqo can flex so much.
think Philly can take out NYXL?
But a lot of teams have started doing this rotating door tracer style based around their dps.
what do you mean his lack of flex?
@stable wadi actually not ...it's possible.. look at it from a business stand point.
Yeah, Philly can take NYXL.
oh you mean, he's tracer only?
Snillo only really plays Tracer.
you had carpe, who can play widow and tracer, but then snillo comes in, so now philly can play tracer and widow AT THE SAME TIME
If Philly takes out NY they move up to Boston's level and remove another peg from NY's board
Him and Bunny are the only two left who are just Tracers.
4Head HELLO POLICE? 4Head PROFIT IS IN MY ROOM WITH A PULSE BOMB 4Head WHATS THAT? 4Head STAY AWAY FROM THE WALLS? 4Head
btw
I get that it's possible but so are many other things; there's a difference between possible and probable and I don't think that it's particularly in Blizzard's interest to rig games
Originally we had Tracer + Other DPS plays everything, which is nice.
sbb played something else than tracer?
But now we're also getting both DPS play Tracer, with different specializations beyond the Tracer.
SBB has played Widow and McCree a lot.
roadhog sbb
i've missed that
itβs not common
So you get teams like LAG
Does NYXL take another L tonight???????
Where they have 3-4 Tracers now.
With different specializations beyond that.
So the two DPS can really rotate things around a lot.
Shock has a bunch too.
Same with Florida.
It's the new trend.
valiant has been great now that soon is free from tracer jail
There's more teams now that rotate tracers, than teams that do not.
@stable wadi fair enough, but with stuff like this, the point for anyone behind it to not make it seem probable is the whole point, so even if it was true we wouldn't know lol, therefore it is possible.
It's an interesting trend.
I don't think that's how possibility works
Floridaβs dps is similar to Phillyβs, with the whole Tracer + Widow + ? composition
Ah typo..I'm on my phone uggh
@vivid mesa Similar to LAG too.
facts
LAG has two people who can very solidly Tracer + Widow, one pure projectile who can Lucio, and one hitscan who can tracer and Genji.
It's a really interesting DPS line up.
@MonteCristo Striker the most handsome,best traser,greatest in the world..π
NYXL is +54 in overall map counts...
Traser
Lmao Fissure.
That's a huge lead.
fissureβs twitter gives me life
Yeah its why they're "throwing"
Better to retain some mental health and let the players breath.
With a lead like that.
NYXL has always had some close games
^...I think so too @pearl stratus
nyxl is just taking it easy. they have. alot under their sleeves
Almost all the teams
are on par with NYXL
its just NYXL has the consistency to
come out on top
NYXL just makes less mistakes, honestly.
nyxl is very... polished
I don't know about on par...that's a bit of a stretch..
I said it earlier today - minus Shanghai and Dallas right now - any team can take any team on any given day.
NYXL is so much higher in many categories.
It's all on who makes more mistakes.
Philly, Dallas, Houston, Boston
That's true @pearl stratus
every team has the POTENTIAL to be as good as them
Look at things we used to make fun of that we really can't anymore.
If you watched the Houston game today.
We can't even really make fun of Jake Tracer anymore.
The memes!
this is overwatch league. any team can beat any team
Shock almost beat Seoul in stage 1 damnit
We've seen it already..anything can happen..
The first few stages were growing pains for sure...
Linkzrs as well.
With all these very different styles coming together.
They're a really good duo being able to rotate around the Tracer.
It's interesting to watch it evolve.
yes. houston seems to have figured out their tracer problem
I wouldn't go -quite- that far, but they're getting there.
Jake is developing into a OWL worthy tracer
better than before
Jjonak is super OP...
but not a godlike tracer like Striker or even Snillo
lol
Jack of all Junkrats


MORE UPSETS PLS

IMO Jake is way over rated... there are other junkrat players from other teams that can play just as well .
nyxl
NYX L
This will be a great game .
the L is for L
Sorry boys, but i'm going to go with 
There are but Jake has shown a lot more consistency with high kill tire plays
GO PINE
It'll be close...or a roll by NYXL 4-0
BRUH
OOF
GOTTEM
GET REKT
he is not ark
You got a point
oh shit you guys see PTR lunar colony? huge changes
thank goodness
whats diff about it
everything
Was accessed using preset used for bot shooting which also happened to have health packs off.
Jjonak dyes his hair every 2 weeks
major lunar colony changes
make yoda hero 28
John-us
@indigo barn Hey man we won against Mayhem xD!
gotemmm
@brisk roost ayyy man yes we diiiid
knocking these top teams down
4:20 + 1
@indigo barn And London got reverse swept xD!
RIP London
thats some late karma for that stage 1 playoff reverse sweep lol
does london even have a chance mathematically at stage 3 playoffs?
@slim summit lol
that's pretty unlikely i'd say
You know one match
someones gonna go a millisecond too early and die to a dva bomb
I almost thought SBB was gonna die to bomb cause he went early
pff
this is gonna be one of those 10 round maps
really had to 1 up them
Yup
ouch
Neptuno pocket tho
i'm just gonna start rooting for the reverse sweep
SBB carrying
Yea those are tough situations
sucks.
I always feel bad when getting res'ed only to get pulsed lol
BATTLE MERCY
haha I was just thinking that..
this is nutty
Carpe is unholy what the hell
this map is actually really close
aw
as far as the mirror does
SBB wasted 2 mins
philly's overall good df also wasted 2 mins
It was alot of positional errors from NY
they capping their points at certain times similarly overall
Libero Airhan
GOD DAMN

EQO
ah rip
Fucking slammed
daaaaammm
This could be NYXL's second loss for this stage
that was pretty dominant defense there
Philly is a monster on these 2cps
Poko hiding in the corner might literally be the cause they lost that
fuckin retarted internet dying here .. now where phili is whoopin nyxl's ass -.-
this stall is crazy
philly shouldve won this point 30 seconds ago
The stall that these high level teams are capable of is impressive
no the stalls are nice on the capture points
it was around the time when EQO got that kill on the mercy right at spawn i think
like on Oasis
Seriously. They even stall OT do damn long
that should've been around the time when philly got it
Eqo built like 3 riptires in under an AKM blade
or Lijang
but the stall tho
but on 2cp is not nice
those stalls are dumb
they should push the spawn back
like how they are doing with Horizon
NYXL eventually made some space for themselves with the shitload of ults
so that stalled it even further
yeah but it's not fair IMO for the attacking team
they did huge wipes
why are they able to continue to stagger
it's the same thing on bliz world
Thats on PD's fault though, took too long to get any picks
that was a really aggressive peek on the spawn by carpe
Did anyone think coming into OWL that Boston and Philly would be going toe to toe with teams like NYXL and London?
NYXL's roster is fairly constant during this time when the other teams are changing theirs right?
Pretty much
NYXL hasn't really needed to change though. They've only lost 1 match in each stage so far
Other than Kazper, Boston hasn't changed THAT much
oof
oh man bro
inv4 reverse sweep
c9
no reverse sweep pls
This seems familiar lol
Philly are not fatigued though
steppin' off the point doot doot doot doo
Fatigue is really not much of an excuse
They're streamers that grind
theyre used to long matches like that
London went through the same as PD but they reverse swept NYXL
yeah london played 3 games in one day
i agree beanbee
and won both stage title matches
top team stops doing as well as they usually do
"Must be something wrong with the team because worse teams never get better at videogames ever"
yeah i'm gonna get tired from sitting down in a chair
I think the (former) top 3 got complacent π
Seoul is the only one besides Fuel to not 4-0 Shanghai
of course people don't get physically tired from sitting down in a chair but to say that there's no fatigue from playing high intensity high pressure matches 3 times in a row is a bit...
i mean i don't disagree that they should be used to it
just
give some credit where it's due
I don't think people are saying that fatigue doesn't happen so much as if it's a factor chances are both sides are getting tired
So if it ends up being an issue it means that one team is just way worse at handling fatigue than the other
oh i was mostly talking about the "yeah i'm gonna get tired from sitting down in a chair" part
i agree with the rest, ofc
where mano tho
Tiredness is an inability to draw on energy. This could be because there is no energy, or it could be that the energy faucet is jammed shut.
yo I love Fusion


It's probably jammed-- gotta invest some energy in wresting it open π
Whats Anamo special at
I feel like its not a good trade for loss of leadership
damn
holy shit man
lol why does Jjonak even play healer
Because Zen
he's like the 3rd dps of the team
time for a map 5, lmao
sometimes 4th
are nyxl any good on junkertown?
Wouldn't a reverse sweep be absolutely hilarious
NYXL is a magnet for reverse sweeps
Philly is shit on Junkertown so it doesn't matter
unless this is the one time they can win
fucking anamo
0 deaths
the first for a mercy on a match
Actually
I think thats the first 1-0
in a mercy in OWL before
Carpe is like 5 ft
that shot on him was weird
1 support? SeemsGood
yea I get it
how are people still surprised lol
lol pine
He's mentally refreshed more than a cheater.
He didn't play in Stage 2, he got to relax and has pretty much no burn out.
He's bascally been able to recoup to full form.
was ilios utter annihilation
wow NY down pretty far right now
look at that ult economy
this is Philly's to lose right now
This current PTR is going to be so weird for people, and the pros.
good morning
Also its one of the few times Blizzard didn't hammer something instead of tap it.
The match is still going on?
well NY stabilized nicely
what was jjonak doing, uh oh
OOF
Honestly, what a strange week so far
Oof
oh pine
map 5s are always fun
man the Bos vs Lon was a nail biter
These pigs giving me anxiety
yeah, lots of flanking hogs again
did they undo his nerf lol? feel like that's the last time we saw this
Would Philly winning this even be an upset?
Pine-o
The cycle of practice
because they dont have massive ego and play to improve and prove themselves
unlike some of the top teams
Koreans got shaken, didn't expect to be challenged so soon π
that settled because they already knew they were good
Philly was always a challenge to NYXL from the start
complacency is killer
the only reason philly is good is because of chef heidi
I mean, Carpe has always been top tier
Yes. The answer is food

stupid neptuno
I will always be envious of Fragi's glorious beard personally
Itβs easy to forget just how good every player is when weβre watching them compete against each other
no joke
One time I played with Fragi on kings row and he was on reinhardt
I've liked fusion ever since
True
I was playing zarya too
Destroy a rip-tire with a rip-tire π
it can still go very far
BATTLE MERCY
I love these bold mercy's
nyxl has been beaten by a lot of teams that have shown better teamwork, but jj always stands out
always a place for individual skill
llol
Itβs his orb madness
Good. This match is going to go all the way
why is a mercy main playin roadhog -.-
Pine and jjonak clearly need nerfs
Iβm so emotionally invested this week
Tomorrow is Philly v. SF, FL v. SHD, Boston v. Seoul
all should be good games
Boston hasn't beaten seoul yet but they're on a damn warpath this stage
As long as they dont play
oh no π¦
their B roster
lol
like all the time
because the B roster is one of the big reasons theyve turned mid tier
oh man the reverse sweep is upon the orange boys
at what point does the B roster become the A roster if that's what they start most of the time?
Jone-Ack
game 5?
NYXL needs to push the payload past 73M
π
Who else got reversed sweep tonight?
Bos reverse swept london
Libero on tracer lmao
NEPTUNO WITH 1HP REKTS
holy crap
yo my heart is fucking racing
THESE OVERTIME PUSHES ARE INSANE
sigh
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that was stupid
oh MAN
fuck you nyxl
EQO went full fuck it
HOLY CRAP
fuckin stupid luck fucks
inb4 reverse sweep damn son
NOT LIKE THIS
????????
REVERSE SWEEP?!
???????
WAHT
"stupid luck"
WAT U DO
ok gg game over bye
Match scores:
: 2-2 
First map:
4-3
:
Second map:
3-1 
Third map:
2-0 
Fourth map
3-4 
Tie Breaker:
: 0-0 
Are you fucking kidding me
LOL
Eqo picked up two with his tire, but neither of them were supports.
Thats why, honestly.
HI BOIS
PD all the time
That last push from NYXL was really nice
If he'd gotten Ark with the tire, even Ark alone, it would have been fine.
Holy shit
THESE GAMES
that was crazy
that was fucking crazy
THIS WHOLE NIGHT IS INSANE
I NEED TO REPLAY THAT
Ur crazy
Philly pls omg get the win
philly must be majorly tilted after that one
Yeah.
http://prntscr.com/j7nyah Doesn't look bad actually
It was such a close match
Look at Eqo in that overtime.
Why do they bench SDB?
And realize SDB will be benched forever.
no one was throwing
