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minor flame
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3 deadeyes didnt get a kill

onyx shore
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london is channeling the england national team

minor flame
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doesnt hit shots

fluid dagger
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Boston reverse sweep, here it comes

minor flame
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ironic

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londons stats are basically on par if not better than Bostons stats

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still loses though

onyx shore
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it's called pulling a three lions

fluid dagger
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New London > Old London

onyx shore
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jfc bdosin

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your eyes would be ruined if you play like that

minor flame
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shit did you see that Profit cam

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good camerawork

fluid dagger
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Mistakes get that widow in to gear bro, lets roll these oddly Korean looking English. Throw a tea party on their ass.

minor flame
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"oddly Korean looking English"

fluid dagger
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right? it's not just me?

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they totally look Korean, so weird

twin dove
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lol

minor flame
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say that again

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but slowly

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"oddly Korean looking English"

fluid dagger
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this is MERICA and I will not be corrected

onyx shore
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yikes

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not diving bastion

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wtf is this point A defend

minor flame
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Finally stepping up

fluid dagger
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where the hell is hooreg

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lol

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man london got super out of position

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and now they're gonna lose high ground

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lol for a second i thought note was gonna get profit

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striker's been getting caught out a lot

onyx shore
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nus

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christ

hot compass
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i fully expect a london victory

fluid dagger
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Mistakes 😦

onyx shore
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should be,unless they choke

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mistake pulled an arhan level of dragonblade back then

feral oyster
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Boston not doing so hot. I thought they were best in league?

fluid dagger
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Mistakes needs more practice time on the widow/genji 😦

onyx shore
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is bdosin really gonna stay on pharah

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nus already got his rez

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lul

fluid dagger
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im surprised he missed mistakes there

onyx shore
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profit's gamble paid off

fluid dagger
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should hav had him dead to rifghts

onyx shore
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kinda

fluid dagger
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lol flanking hog

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profit wat

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profit dodging hooks somehow

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i mean he died anyway but still

onyx shore
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yikes

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this london chokes again

minor flame
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London is getting the picks

feral oyster
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so going to game 5?

minor flame
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tf happening

onyx shore
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single support

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nus ded = no push

hearty sentinel
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REVERSE SWEEP

onyx shore
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ggwp

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choked again

warped axle
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We need a new universal choking sign

fluid dagger
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nus again

hot compass
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oh shit 5th game

warped axle
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I'm thinking an airplane

fluid dagger
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oh man that's a really bad stagger

warped axle
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Why did London switch

onyx shore
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let's run a single support over and over in front of a widow

stable wadi
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That look of despair lmao

onyx shore
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yikes

fluid dagger
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oh shit

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Note fragging out

warped axle
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Closer was great, Hago was great,why switch them out?

fluid dagger
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Boston reverse sweep DO IT!

sweet canopy
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this is getting hype

twin dove
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oh shit they managed to hold that, dafuq lol

warped axle
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Nus played like crap

onyx shore
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well

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you're a single support

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in front of a widow

gusty void
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Poo

slim summit
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this is nutty

fluid dagger
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single support is pretty standard on that point

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but he was playing all sorts of weird positioning

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they all were franly

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profit was getting way too bold

forest wharf
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oh shit just got an email that i won 100 owl tokens

sweet canopy
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congrats

fluid dagger
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even hooreg was way behind enemy lines at bad times

sweet canopy
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What skin will you get?

onyx shore
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they should've run the pirate ship

forest wharf
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hmm second shanghai skin for trolling probably

warped axle
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Like he once flew over to Profits dead body alone while Gamsu and Neko were right next to it

fluid dagger
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Boston loves them some game 5's tho

warped axle
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And he gets super staggered because of that

brisk sluice
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Oh wow Tracer actually got a nerf on PTR

fluid dagger
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?

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what'd they change?

onyx shore
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only her ult

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from 400 to 300 dmg

brisk sluice
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Pulse Bomb down to 300

warped axle
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Pulse bomb damage 400 -> 300

fluid dagger
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that's actually pretty huge

warped axle
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Seems like a Winston buff tbh

onyx shore
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which will still kill most of dps and supports

fluid dagger
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yeah but 1clip + bomb wont kill most tanks now

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basically only orisa

limber pine
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reverse sweep me bby

slim summit
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yo wtf

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i got the 100 token email

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but no 100 tokens

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rigged

raven badger
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you prob. got it earlier

warped axle
raven badger
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I got mine like last week and just got the email today

fluid dagger
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yeah the emails go late for some reason

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i got one too

slim summit
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i haven't got it since like 4 weeks ago

fluid dagger
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but i already spent mine

slim summit
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but i got multiple that day

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and only 1 email

warped axle
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Mistakes should play Sombra

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Hooreg should be McCree

fluid dagger
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Yeah mistakes really needs to stay away from these picks until he's ready

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he's not a "bad" genji but not quite on the top tier level yet

slim summit
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bad blade

warped axle
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Still better than AKM

fluid dagger
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lol

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i love this AKM meme so much

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i giggle like a damn school girl every time

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ouch hack on blade

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mistakes plays mccree?

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profit saved that one

warped axle
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Profit please stop hiding

fluid dagger
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camperr

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cmon boston get it together

warped axle
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What the fuck was that EMP

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He got Gamsu, that's it

fluid dagger
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so is it just me or is london playing Boston's comp

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and boston decided to do something entirely different

hot compass
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nice

sweet canopy
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Wow

twin dove
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feelsbadman

fluid dagger
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another crap EMP

twin dove
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both supports just got corralled into a corner

warped axle
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Striker is nuts

fluid dagger
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Mistakes on Sombra, here go

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this is a super scrappy fight

twin dove
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Eyes on the fking prize

warped axle
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STRIKER IS NUTS

fluid dagger
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lol

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this fight wat

pearl cedar
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WHATTT THE FUCKK

fluid dagger
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jesus

pearl cedar
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that was so ballsyy

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he was right by the spawn door

fluid dagger
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STRIKER THEY'RE ALREADY DEAD

twin dove
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NICE

fluid dagger
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nice

sweet canopy
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1:1

stable wadi
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The announcer just kinda crumbled at the end there

sweet canopy
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hype AF

warped axle
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That was an awesome round

hot compass
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damn it 1:1

fluid dagger
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when mistakes plays sombra it's amazing how different they look

hot compass
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this last round is gonna be intense

onyx shore
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choking

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choking

sweet canopy
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This is good tv

warped axle
pearl cedar
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So fucking busted mann

fluid dagger
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london got no ults

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they're done

warped axle
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Boston is good on this part

pearl cedar
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im surprised they kept profit alive when he got hacked

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that was pretty smart

warped axle
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They embarrassed NYXL on this map

fluid dagger
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Boston also has more experience than anyone on this map 5

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lol

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can't deny that advantage and they flaunt it every time they get here

tall sierra
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Did Arhan play today for houston? I missed it

vagrant niche
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Rip boston

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they chocked

fluid dagger
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oo a late pick

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can they get back fast

tall sierra
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Monkey got hops lol

twin dove
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Striker needs his own throne room in the boston team house

fluid dagger
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cmon Boston pull it back

twin dove
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lol

fluid dagger
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Moira orb is horseshit lol

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lol

hot compass
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quiet, moira is god

fluid dagger
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Striker OP

onyx shore
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choking again?

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london

brisk sluice
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Oh

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My

minor flame
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PROFIT

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WTF

brisk sluice
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That ultimate

stable wadi
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lmao Profit with the throw

twin dove
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OMG

minor flame
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PROFIT

final river
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insane

brisk sluice
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That's the biggest mess up

fluid dagger
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NICE!

minor flame
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ACTUAL THROW

sweet canopy
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holy shit

hearty sentinel
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BOSTON WINS

ruby pendant
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wow

polar pier
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C9 plz..

sweet canopy
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what a match

minor flame
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ACTUAL THROWING

marsh pumice
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what

hearty sentinel
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OMG OMG OMG

stable wadi
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lmaoooo

marsh pumice
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omg

hot compass
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JAYSUS

tall sierra
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Profit throwing lol

warped axle
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PROFITWTF

stable wadi
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Report Profit please

polar pier
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😐 πŸ”«

hearty sentinel
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REVERSE SWEEP!!!!!

vagrant fossil
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YES

limber pine
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da fak

brisk sluice
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That's toxic

hot compass
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NO

warped axle
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PROFIT WITH THE BIGGEST CHOKE

vagrant niche
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PROFIT THROW

minor flame
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ACTUAL THROWING BY PROFIT

vagrant niche
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WOW

onyx shore
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LAL

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profit throw

marsh pumice
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i don't get how london let that happen

fluid dagger
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nooooooooooooo

pearl stratus
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Profit holding down that wall.

vagrant niche
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REAL THROW

polar pier
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London went from hero to zero in the span of three games.

ruby pendant
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London messed up big time

pearl stratus
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I mean

pearl cedar
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PROFIT CHOKE HOLYY

marsh pumice
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and that profit ult...

pearl cedar
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shitt

pearl stratus
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I don't think Profits bomb would have actually made a difference

polar pier
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sigh

twin yacht
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WHAT

pearl stratus
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But it wasn't useful.

pearl cedar
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but mistakes hit a BIG EMP at the end

onyx shore
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snatch defeat from the jaw of victory

twin yacht
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Did that just happen

pearl cedar
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striker not getting hit by that emp by london though

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was the difference

fluid dagger
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HOLY SHIT

pearl cedar
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that guy is fucking MVP material

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dont @ me

sullen berry
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that was the literal definition of choking by the spitfire

ruby pendant
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Kellex and Neko did a good job with the heals

fluid dagger
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THIS IS CRAY

hot compass
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LondonSpitfire end me

fluid dagger
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OMG!!!!

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BOSTON

night thunder
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PROFIT

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LOL

fluid dagger
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!!!!!!!

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THAT ROUND WAS INSANE

slim summit
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wait what the shit

pearl stratus
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I'm glad Mistakes finally brought out Sombra.

sullen berry
slim summit
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did they reverse sweep!???

ruby pendant
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@night thunder he's upset

fluid dagger
idle beacon
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FUCKIN AWESOME BOSTON πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚

slim summit
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some jackass came to my door to sell me internet service

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and i missed it

vagrant niche
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CHOKE ON THAT BRITAINS

fluid dagger
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@slim summit rewatch that last point if you can, crazy

hollow current
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Wow

tall sierra
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Great match

vagrant niche
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Profit with that throw lmao that's going to come back to him

warped axle
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Note is sick in both ways

sullen berry
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the whole match was worth watching

vagrant niche
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good job Striker

hollow current
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Striker and mistakes with an insane stall

fluid dagger
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Striker just went insane

sullen berry
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it wasn't as much of a steamroll in the first three maps

night thunder
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That was close

pearl stratus
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I wonder if NotE just did that on perfect.

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*purpose

hot compass
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pretty damn good for the first ow league match ive watched

pearl stratus
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Because the Patriots/Belichek thing is literally "Do your job"

hot compass
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i think ill watch more

hollow current
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Thats the best match you’ll be getting for a while

sullen berry
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uprising v spitfire is always a romp or two better than many matchups

pearl stratus
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Org slogan going to Note.

ruby pendant
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lol

fluid dagger
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@hot compass good thing you didn't start yesterday because those games (other than LA vs LA) were disappointing lol

tall sierra
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OWL must be paying the top 3 teams to throw on purpose lol, so that they don't keep winning the stage prizes and loose viewers.

fluid dagger
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that game was absolutely insane

tall sierra
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That throw by Profit...just odd

pearl stratus
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Loose viewers would just be your mum πŸ˜›

ruby pendant
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losing to a reverse sweep must suck

tall sierra
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scratching head

pearl stratus
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Now if we're talking about losing viewers.

ruby pendant
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all that work for no reason

pearl stratus
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NYXL isn't really trying right now.

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Because they're worried about burn out

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So they're practicing a bit less and scrimming less.

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To get back some mental health towards the Stage Finale.

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They can more than afford a few losses

vagrant niche
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that's going to be the talk of the night

tall sierra
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Yea they can afford it.

pearl stratus
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I mean it'll be the talk

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But I really don't see it making a difference.

sweet canopy
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Commentators haven't started talking about the throw yet

tall sierra
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Gamsu and Striker carried so much...right plays at the right time. It all panned out.

pearl stratus
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The chances of him sticking mistake are super low, and that EMP was the problem.

fluid dagger
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that mistakes/striker stall was clutch

hybrid sluice
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tfw all the korean teams are getting slaughtered this stage

pearl stratus
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Uh.

vivid mesa
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not new york

tall sierra
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That's what I was saying... but you @pearl stratus said something about viewing and mum? lol πŸ˜›

pearl stratus
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NYXL got their third loss of the entire season.

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Oh, you used loose in stead of lose.

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I was calling your mom a woman of negotiable affection ❀

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Because it was available on the typo.

vivid mesa
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what a match guys

tall sierra
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If the top 3 teams keep on winning... it'll lose viewers

vivid mesa
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SCRIPTED

tall sierra
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ooh haha

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oops typo

pearl stratus
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I don't think its scripted at all, honestly.

hybrid sluice
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^

pearl stratus
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London is in a weird funk, they have been all Stage 3.

vivid mesa
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it’s not lol

pearl stratus
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And Seoul has been on a decline since Stage 1.

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Their cohesion has been deteriorating while other teams have been improving.

frosty pendant
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mad respect to boston for beating the top 2 teams even after the dreamkazper scandal

hybrid sluice
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seoul is like the dallas fuel of korean teams

vivid mesa
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but games like these is what keeps viewership high

pearl cedar
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You cant script a player as good as striker

frosty pendant
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props to the coaching and management for holding the team together

stable wadi
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Paid throws?

tall sierra
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Well when you have striker and gamsu... very solid

pearl stratus
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It's not even Striker himself.

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The coaching on Boston is just honestly.

tall sierra
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I know

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Yea

pearl stratus
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Better than everyone else in the league.

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Even NYXL.

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I would say Boston has the best coaches.

vivid mesa
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boston is so good at working AROUND gasmu and striker

pearl stratus
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NYXL is just flush with a lot more mechanical talent.

pearl cedar
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Eh, i'd say NYXL still has better coaching given the record

slim summit
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London is very likely not going to make the title matches

pearl cedar
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you cant argue with results

frosty pendant
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If any other team had lost their star player like that, they wouldve fallen before winning again

slim summit
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Philly would have to lose to Shanghai

vivid mesa
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not a boston fan but i do give their coaching credit

pearl stratus
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You can't, but look at the growth.

frosty pendant
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but not boston

pearl cedar
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but Boston is definitely a top 2 player in the league

pearl stratus
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NYXL hasn't really grown, in my opinion, they haven't needed to.

warped axle
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Striker > SBB? I think it's to early to say that

pearl stratus
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Boston is basically a moneyball team.

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It's a bunch of people most people didn't know much about, who were extremely coachable.

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And they're turning them into monsters.

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That's an insane coaching staff.

vagrant niche
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SBB got stolen

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his tittle

vivid mesa
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boston handled the dreamkazper situation VERY well. also mistakes was ready

pearl cedar
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50% sticks...

pearl stratus
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Nah, Strikers not better than SBB.

pearl cedar
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get the FUCKKK outtt

pearl stratus
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SBB, realistically, is in a class all his own.

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Because his tracer style is so unique.

stable wadi
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London Fuel confirmed lmao

pearl stratus
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So its not even a real comparison.

ruby pendant
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lol

vivid mesa
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sbb is the best player in the league IMO

warped axle
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London vs Spitfire

pearl stratus
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I would say Striker > or = to Effect however.

hearty sentinel
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London with a similar record to Dallas Fuel πŸ˜›

tall sierra
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I agree..SBB is SBB

vivid mesa
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effect needs more support from his team

pearl stratus
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The closest Tracer to SBB, purely in style (not in skill), is Jake.

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Which makes sense.

fluid dagger
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I think Striker is better hoenstly

vagrant niche
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@vivid mesa no, it's Jjonak

pearl stratus
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Since SBB and Jake are really close.

vagrant niche
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he's the number 1

vivid mesa
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jjonak is my FAVORITE player

vagrant niche
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he's the best player on the league right now

fluid dagger
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Boston top 3 HYPE!

idle beacon
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I said in stage1 already that striker is one of the best tracers πŸ™‚

vivid mesa
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honestly i do not disagree with you

pearl cedar
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Boston is a top 2 team right now tbh

ruby pendant
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Excelsior won next game

pearl cedar
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and I think in any given day Striker can take out any tracer in the league in a 1 on 1

pearl stratus
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I mean they may not, depends which NYXL we get.

vivid mesa
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boston vs valiant may 3

fluid dagger
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Uprising vs Valiant this stage is going to be a crazy insane game

tall sierra
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So if you were OWL / Blizzard...and you had the top 3 teams keep winning... that's loss in profits from people losing interest...so what do you do?

Slip some bills to the top teams and say..."...wink just put on a show.."

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Makes you think.

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Definitely have to rewatch the VOD's

pearl stratus
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The only one I would argue with with Striker is SBB. Because the play styles are so god damn different. Not to be a Sinatraa echo.

tall sierra
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there were some plays that just didn't make sense.

vivid mesa
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have you ever watched proffered sports @tall sierra

pearl stratus
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But mechanically the rest of the leagues tracers play very similar.

vivid mesa
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PROFESSIONAL

tall sierra
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Like a NBA player shooting wayyy left of the hoop

pearl stratus
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And I'd put him up against any other tracer, no worries.

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Striker and Bunny.

vivid mesa
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bunny is unique for sure

pearl stratus
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Bunny's not unique, he's just... Bunny.

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His style is very similar to Strikers.

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Which is similar to the rest.

sweet canopy
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@tall sierra Nah in that situation as Blizz I'd hype the hell out of those three teams. With only three, you can give more spotlight to them and the players in them, to build hype that way

fluid dagger
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@tall sierra I mean anything's possible but it's not like Boston didn't make mistakes too. Also London had all the pressure on them while Boston had the momentum. Even pros aren't 100% immune to pressure.

pearl stratus
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Bunny is probably closest in overall type of play to Effect.

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More lone wolf aggro tracers.

tall sierra
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That is true..

vivid mesa
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bunny at least has a good team

tall sierra
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Just seems odd ya know...

vivid mesa
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@tall sierra i get what you’re saying

hearty sentinel
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Holy Crap and Boston has to go against Seoul tomorrow. Talk about a bit of a schedule :P. Going against London and Seoul in the same week

sweet canopy
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@tall sierra The last thing Blizz wants to do is risk undermining its integrity as an esport developer and promoter

tall sierra
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On another Note...Shanghai looks very different now with the 3 Koreans

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Made a difference.

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But too late for them

vagrant niche
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new copypasta i love it

vivid mesa
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geguri has made a HUGE difference

pearl stratus
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They'll be interesting in Season 2 imo.

rain pewter
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they beat NYXL and london 3-2

pearl stratus
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Fearless too.

rain pewter
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seoul's not too bad at this point of time for them i'd say

pearl stratus
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Once Fearless and supports get on the same page, they'll be interesting.

warped axle
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Seoul, you better watch out

sweet canopy
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@vagrant niche holy shit lol

warped axle
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Boston's coming

pearl stratus
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Because his high aggro Winston play is amazing, but he's got a huge disconnect with his supports.

vivid mesa
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ado has been stepping it up, filling the hole that undead left

fluid dagger
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Seoul is shaking in their booties, Uprising out for blood this stage

pearl stratus
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Diya is finally getting back into his Widow groove.

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Which is nice.

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Because Diya is a great widow.

vagrant niche
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@sweet canopy XD

fluid dagger
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Dynasty is probably practicing their ass off right about now lol

vivid mesa
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seoul is gonna have to throw harder if they don’t wanna make stage playoffs

idle beacon
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what about snillo's tracer ?

hybrid sluice
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the real question is if and who'll SD get their first win from this season

tall sierra
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Seoul is still sitting nicely at #2 in total standings.

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NYXL is wayy a head.

pearl stratus
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Snillos tracer is really good.

stable wadi
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iunlock - Today at 10:02 PM
So if you were OWL / Blizzard...and you had the top 3 teams keep winning... that's loss in profits from people losing interest...so what do you do?

Slip some bills to the top teams and say..."...wink just put on a show.."
Makes you think.
Definitely have to rewatch the VOD's

Bit too Tinfoil Hat imo

pearl stratus
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His problem is his lack of flex, imo. In the long run.

tall sierra
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Sitting very comfortably

warped axle
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London and Seoul are fighting to see which team can throw harder

stable wadi
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I think London has just been shaken since losing to Philly

idle beacon
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what about snillo's tracer ?

vivid mesa
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philly dps is very nice

pearl stratus
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For right now its fine since Carpe and Eqo can flex so much.

fluid dagger
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think Philly can take out NYXL?

pearl stratus
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But a lot of teams have started doing this rotating door tracer style based around their dps.

idle beacon
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what do you mean his lack of flex?

tall sierra
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@stable wadi actually not ...it's possible.. look at it from a business stand point.

pearl stratus
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Yeah, Philly can take NYXL.

idle beacon
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oh you mean, he's tracer only?

pearl stratus
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Snillo only really plays Tracer.

vivid mesa
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you had carpe, who can play widow and tracer, but then snillo comes in, so now philly can play tracer and widow AT THE SAME TIME

fluid dagger
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If Philly takes out NY they move up to Boston's level and remove another peg from NY's board

pearl stratus
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Him and Bunny are the only two left who are just Tracers.

vagrant fossil
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4Head HELLO POLICE? 4Head PROFIT IS IN MY ROOM WITH A PULSE BOMB 4Head WHATS THAT? 4Head STAY AWAY FROM THE WALLS? 4Head

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btw

stable wadi
#

I get that it's possible but so are many other things; there's a difference between possible and probable and I don't think that it's particularly in Blizzard's interest to rig games

pearl stratus
#

Originally we had Tracer + Other DPS plays everything, which is nice.

idle beacon
#

sbb played something else than tracer?

pearl stratus
#

But now we're also getting both DPS play Tracer, with different specializations beyond the Tracer.

minor flame
#

Widow

#

McCree

pearl stratus
#

SBB has played Widow and McCree a lot.

vivid mesa
#

roadhog sbb

idle beacon
#

i've missed that

vivid mesa
#

it’s not common

pearl stratus
#

So you get teams like LAG

indigo barn
#

Does NYXL take another L tonight???????

pearl stratus
#

Where they have 3-4 Tracers now.

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With different specializations beyond that.

#

So the two DPS can really rotate things around a lot.

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Shock has a bunch too.

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Same with Florida.

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It's the new trend.

vivid mesa
#

valiant has been great now that soon is free from tracer jail

pearl stratus
#

There's more teams now that rotate tracers, than teams that do not.

tall sierra
#

@stable wadi fair enough, but with stuff like this, the point for anyone behind it to not make it seem probable is the whole point, so even if it was true we wouldn't know lol, therefore it is possible.

pearl stratus
#

It's an interesting trend.

stable wadi
#

I don't think that's how possibility works

vivid mesa
#

Florida’s dps is similar to Philly’s, with the whole Tracer + Widow + ? composition

tall sierra
#

Ah typo..I'm on my phone uggh

pearl stratus
#

@vivid mesa Similar to LAG too.

vivid mesa
#

facts

pearl stratus
#

LAG has two people who can very solidly Tracer + Widow, one pure projectile who can Lucio, and one hitscan who can tracer and Genji.

#

It's a really interesting DPS line up.

vagrant niche
tall sierra
#

NYXL is +54 in overall map counts...

minor flame
#

Traser

pearl stratus
#

Lmao Fissure.

tall sierra
#

That's a huge lead.

vivid mesa
#

fissure’s twitter gives me life

pearl stratus
#

Yeah its why they're "throwing"

#

Better to retain some mental health and let the players breath.

#

With a lead like that.

minor flame
#

NYXL has always had some close games

tall sierra
#

^...I think so too @pearl stratus

vivid mesa
#

nyxl is just taking it easy. they have. alot under their sleeves

minor flame
#

Houston

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Even Fuel

vivid mesa
#

fuel was really good that match tho

#

not all on nyxl

minor flame
#

Almost all the teams

#

are on par with NYXL

#

its just NYXL has the consistency to

#

come out on top

pearl stratus
#

NYXL just makes less mistakes, honestly.

vivid mesa
#

nyxl is very... polished

tall sierra
#

I don't know about on par...that's a bit of a stretch..

pearl stratus
#

I said it earlier today - minus Shanghai and Dallas right now - any team can take any team on any given day.

tall sierra
#

NYXL is so much higher in many categories.

pearl stratus
#

It's all on who makes more mistakes.

minor flame
#

Philly, Dallas, Houston, Boston

tall sierra
#

That's true @pearl stratus

vivid mesa
#

every team has the POTENTIAL to be as good as them

minor flame
#

all of those matches and more

#

are 3-2ed by NYXL

pearl stratus
#

Look at things we used to make fun of that we really can't anymore.

#

If you watched the Houston game today.

#

We can't even really make fun of Jake Tracer anymore.

#

The memes!

vivid mesa
#

this is overwatch league. any team can beat any team

minor flame
#

Shock almost beat Seoul in stage 1 damnit

indigo barn
#

every team has to be on par with eachother

#

or else theres no league

tall sierra
#

We've seen it already..anything can happen..

vivid mesa
#

if we’re talking about jake’s tracer, there was massive improvement toy

#

today

tall sierra
#

The first few stages were growing pains for sure...

pearl stratus
#

Linkzrs as well.

tall sierra
#

With all these very different styles coming together.

pearl stratus
#

They're a really good duo being able to rotate around the Tracer.

#

It's interesting to watch it evolve.

vivid mesa
#

yes. houston seems to have figured out their tracer problem

fluid dagger
#

Jjonak OP

#

nerf Jjonak

pearl stratus
#

I wouldn't go -quite- that far, but they're getting there.

minor flame
#

Jake is developing into a OWL worthy tracer

vivid mesa
#

better than before

tall sierra
#

Jjonak is super OP...

minor flame
#

but not a godlike tracer like Striker or even Snillo

indigo barn
#

so both dudes on the desk chose nyxl

#

which means nyxl is gonna lose

tall sierra
#

lol

vivid mesa
#

jake might never get there. he’s a jack-of-all-trades

#

plus junkrat

minor flame
#

Jack of all Junkrats

slim summit
indigo barn
vivid mesa
#

i’m gonna go watch this game

#

go my

indigo barn
#

MORE UPSETS PLS

minor flame
tall sierra
#

IMO Jake is way over rated... there are other junkrat players from other teams that can play just as well .

vivid mesa
#

nyxl

slim summit
#

NYX L

tall sierra
#

This will be a great game .

slim summit
#

the L is for L

vagrant niche
#

Sorry boys, but i'm going to go with NYExcelsior

minor flame
#

There are but Jake has shown a lot more consistency with high kill tire plays

vagrant niche
#

GO PINE

tall sierra
#

It'll be close...or a roll by NYXL 4-0

indigo barn
#

BRUH

stable wadi
#

OOF

indigo barn
#

THAT SIKE

#

OOF

stable wadi
#

GOTTEM

indigo barn
#

GET REKT

minor flame
#

What do you guys think of Amano btw?

#

I never really seen him much

indigo barn
#

he is not ark

minor flame
#

You got a point

fluid dagger
#

oh shit you guys see PTR lunar colony? huge changes

indigo barn
#

thank goodness

minor flame
#

whats diff about it

fluid dagger
#

everything

minor flame
#

Jjonak dyes his hair every 2 weeks

fluid dagger
#

major lunar colony changes

brisk sluice
#

It's nowhere near out yet thuogh.

#

That was unintended push to PTR.

indigo barn
#

make yoda hero 28

minor flame
#

John-us

brisk roost
#

@indigo barn Hey man we won against Mayhem xD!

slim summit
#

gotemmm

minor flame
#

not 4:20

#

PD loses

indigo barn
#

@brisk roost ayyy man yes we diiiid

supple prism
#

knocking these top teams down

rain pewter
#

4:20 + 1

brisk roost
#

@indigo barn And London got reverse swept xD!

indigo barn
#

yeah bro

#

good sht

brisk roost
#

RIP London

minor flame
#

thats some late karma for that stage 1 playoff reverse sweep lol

rain pewter
#

does london even have a chance mathematically at stage 3 playoffs?

minor flame
#

Yes

#

slim chance

slim summit
#

philly has to lose to shanghai

#

otherwise they're out

ruby pendant
#

@slim summit lol

rain pewter
#

that's pretty unlikely i'd say

minor flame
#

You know one match

#

someones gonna go a millisecond too early and die to a dva bomb

#

I almost thought SBB was gonna die to bomb cause he went early

supple prism
#

pff

slim summit
#

this is gonna be one of those 10 round maps

supple prism
#

really had to 1 up them

minor flame
#

when is OWL gonna have a 6 score 2cp

#

20 minute 2cp match

tall sierra
#

That'd be wild and exhausting, but interesting..

#

SBB popping off...dang

rain pewter
#

that's almost 2 whole minutes

#

thanks to 3 kills by SBB

tall sierra
#

Yup

fluid dagger
#

ouch

minor flame
#

Neptuno pocket tho

slim summit
#

i'm just gonna start rooting for the reverse sweep

fluid dagger
#

SBB carrying

minor flame
#

lmao fragi

#

gets hit by the bomb anyway

tall sierra
#

Yea those are tough situations

#

sucks.

#

I always feel bad when getting res'ed only to get pulsed lol

fluid dagger
#

BATTLE MERCY

minor flame
#

Eqo poppin off recently

#

NYXL better prioritize em

#

John-as

tall sierra
#

haha I was just thinking that..

minor flame
#

damn PD a little overkill

#

venom mine and junk trap and mine

tall sierra
#

Like when they say, "Shaneggg hi"

#

Cringe.

#

Lol that palm tree hide

slim summit
#

this is nutty

runic stag
#

Carpe is unholy what the hell

slim summit
#

Carpe is my daddy

#

oh no

#

ok Poko we need a classic Poko destruct

#

get 5

rain pewter
#

this map is actually really close

slim summit
#

aw

rain pewter
#

as far as the mirror does

#

SBB wasted 2 mins

#

philly's overall good df also wasted 2 mins

minor flame
#

It was alot of positional errors from NY

rain pewter
#

they capping their points at certain times similarly overall

slim summit
#

welp it's over

#

LOL

#

good thing Libero choked

brisk roost
#

Libero Airhan

slim summit
#

i still miss ShaDowBurn

#

SBB! NO

#

LOL

rain pewter
#

GOD DAMN

slim summit
rain pewter
#

EQO

tall sierra
#

ah rip

stable wadi
#

Fucking slammed

vagrant niche
#

daaaaammm

rain pewter
#

get

#

DENIED

brisk roost
#

This could be NYXL's second loss for this stage

vagrant niche
#

that was pretty dominant defense there

minor flame
#

Philly is a monster on these 2cps

stable wadi
#

The last riptire though

#

"TARGET SIGHTED, MOVING TO INTERCEPT"

minor flame
#

Poko hiding in the corner might literally be the cause they lost that

idle beacon
#

fuckin retarted internet dying here .. now where phili is whoopin nyxl's ass -.-

rain pewter
#

i think it'll be 3-2

#

who wins idk

stuck dragon
#

I can't keep watching ee ee ee

#

NY is getting merked

rain pewter
#

this stall is crazy

restive mason
#

philly shouldve won this point 30 seconds ago

stuck dragon
#

True @rain pewter

#

It's done now

vagrant niche
#

ok that was stupid as hell

#

they should had won a while ago

hearty sentinel
#

The stall that these high level teams are capable of is impressive

brisk roost
#

Ikr

#

How did NYXL held that is beyond me

vagrant niche
#

no the stalls are nice on the capture points

rain pewter
#

it was around the time when EQO got that kill on the mercy right at spawn i think

vagrant niche
#

like on Oasis

stuck dragon
#

Seriously. They even stall OT do damn long

rain pewter
#

that should've been around the time when philly got it

minor flame
#

Eqo built like 3 riptires in under an AKM blade

vagrant niche
#

or Lijang

rain pewter
#

but the stall tho

vagrant niche
#

but on 2cp is not nice

#

those stalls are dumb

#

they should push the spawn back

#

like how they are doing with Horizon

minor flame
#

NYXL eventually made some space for themselves with the shitload of ults

#

so that stalled it even further

vagrant niche
#

yeah but it's not fair IMO for the attacking team

#

they did huge wipes

#

why are they able to continue to stagger

#

it's the same thing on bliz world

minor flame
#

Thats on PD's fault though, took too long to get any picks

restive mason
#

that was a really aggressive peek on the spawn by carpe

hearty sentinel
#

Did anyone think coming into OWL that Boston and Philly would be going toe to toe with teams like NYXL and London?

restive mason
#

stage playoffs i think are already out of the question for london

#

1-4

vagrant niche
#

@hearty sentinel the teams have changed a lot

#

specially main roster

rain pewter
#

NYXL's roster is fairly constant during this time when the other teams are changing theirs right?

minor flame
#

Pretty much

hearty sentinel
#

NYXL hasn't really needed to change though. They've only lost 1 match in each stage so far

fluid dagger
#

Other than Kazper, Boston hasn't changed THAT much

restive mason
#

that solo-ult tho

#

boston hasnt changed really

slim summit
#

COMEON

#

gotemmmm

stable wadi
#

oof

indigo barn
#

oh man bro

slim summit
#

inv4 reverse sweep

restive mason
#

c9

indigo barn
#

no reverse sweep pls

hearty sentinel
#

This seems familiar lol

restive mason
#

yep

#

it does

warped axle
#

Philly are not fatigued though

stable wadi
#

steppin' off the point doot doot doot doo

minor flame
#

Fatigue is really not much of an excuse

indigo barn
#

ilios is next tho

#

; (

minor flame
#

They're streamers that grind

#

theyre used to long matches like that

#

London went through the same as PD but they reverse swept NYXL

indigo barn
#

yeah london played 3 games in one day

restive mason
#

i agree beanbee

indigo barn
#

and won both stage title matches

stable wadi
#

top team stops doing as well as they usually do

#

"Must be something wrong with the team because worse teams never get better at videogames ever"

indigo barn
#

yeah i'm gonna get tired from sitting down in a chair

restive mason
#

shanghai didnt get completely and utterly destroyed against seoul

#

which was nice

fluid dagger
#

I think the (former) top 3 got complacent πŸ˜›

minor flame
#

Seoul is the only one besides Fuel to not 4-0 Shanghai

rain pewter
#

of course people don't get physically tired from sitting down in a chair but to say that there's no fatigue from playing high intensity high pressure matches 3 times in a row is a bit...

#

i mean i don't disagree that they should be used to it

#

just

#

give some credit where it's due

restive mason
#

i hear ya

#

it can be fatiguing

stable wadi
#

I don't think people are saying that fatigue doesn't happen so much as if it's a factor chances are both sides are getting tired

#

So if it ends up being an issue it means that one team is just way worse at handling fatigue than the other

rain pewter
#

oh i was mostly talking about the "yeah i'm gonna get tired from sitting down in a chair" part

#

i agree with the rest, ofc

restive mason
#

no

#

how many pounds can i cut by sitting

#

is it a good workout

minor flame
#

where mano tho

sweet canopy
#

Tiredness is an inability to draw on energy. This could be because there is no energy, or it could be that the energy faucet is jammed shut.

torpid charm
#

yo I love Fusion

warped axle
torpid charm
sweet canopy
#

It's probably jammed-- gotta invest some energy in wresting it open πŸ˜‰

minor flame
#

Pines hair

#

damn

rain pewter
#

hey, it's black

#

the hair

minor flame
#

Whats Anamo special at

#

I feel like its not a good trade for loss of leadership

#

damn

#

holy shit man

fluid dagger
#

lol why does Jjonak even play healer

minor flame
#

Because Zen

rain pewter
#

he's like the 3rd dps of the team

torpid charm
#

time for a map 5, lmao

rain pewter
#

sometimes 4th

torpid charm
#

Philadelphia 3-2sion

#

love my team PhiliFusion

idle beacon
#

are nyxl any good on junkertown?

hearty sentinel
#

Wouldn't a reverse sweep be absolutely hilarious

minor flame
#

NYXL is a magnet for reverse sweeps

torpid charm
#

Philly is shit on Junkertown so it doesn't matter

#

unless this is the one time they can win

minor flame
#

fucking anamo

#

0 deaths

#

the first for a mercy on a match

#

Actually

#

I think thats the first 1-0

#

in a mercy in OWL before

#

Carpe is like 5 ft

#

that shot on him was weird

leaden quail
#

1 support? SeemsGood

fluid dagger
#

what's with all the comments about 1 support on junkertown

#

super common strat here

leaden quail
#

yea I get it

fluid dagger
#

how are people still surprised lol

leaden quail
#

it's just weird seeing it to me

#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

fluid dagger
#

lol pine

pearl stratus
#

He's mentally refreshed more than a cheater.

#

He didn't play in Stage 2, he got to relax and has pretty much no burn out.

#

He's bascally been able to recoup to full form.

fluid dagger
#

hahaha

#

mano decided he was worth more

indigo barn
#

was ilios utter annihilation

minor flame
#

Yes

#

Ruins

#

No kills from PD

#

Anamo was at 1-0 as mercy

fluid dagger
#

wow NY down pretty far right now

#

look at that ult economy

#

this is Philly's to lose right now

pearl stratus
#

This current PTR is going to be so weird for people, and the pros.

royal acorn
#

good morning

pearl stratus
#

Also its one of the few times Blizzard didn't hammer something instead of tap it.

royal acorn
#

The match is still going on?

fluid dagger
#

well NY stabilized nicely

minor flame
#

20 secs hold

#

thats not too bad

royal acorn
#

The NYXL vs Fusion match

#

oh It is

fluid dagger
#

what was jjonak doing, uh oh

minor flame
#

he tried to trans but no one was there to heal

#

he was eventually picked out

fluid dagger
#

he went very far forward in to nothing

#

heh

#

we've seen lots of moira today

minor flame
#

Tl:dw

#

not a good example of moira in pro play

indigo barn
#

OOF

fringe cape
#

Honestly, what a strange week so far

royal acorn
#

Oof

fluid dagger
#

oh pine

royal acorn
#

Hope NYXL wins this round so we could go to the Tie-Braker

#

Breaker*

minor flame
#

map 5s are always fun

fluid dagger
#

man the Bos vs Lon was a nail biter

fringe cape
#

These pigs giving me anxiety

fluid dagger
#

yeah, lots of flanking hogs again

#

did they undo his nerf lol? feel like that's the last time we saw this

hearty sentinel
#

Would Philly winning this even be an upset?

royal acorn
#

Pine-o

fringe cape
#

The cycle of practice

minor flame
#

Not really

#

Philly is arguable one of the best teams

sinful fox
#

because they dont have massive ego and play to improve and prove themselves

#

unlike some of the top teams

fluid dagger
#

Koreans got shaken, didn't expect to be challenged so soon πŸ˜›

sinful fox
#

that settled because they already knew they were good

minor flame
#

Philly was always a challenge to NYXL from the start

fluid dagger
#

complacency is killer

sinful fox
#

the only reason philly is good is because of chef heidi

fluid dagger
#

I mean, Carpe has always been top tier

fringe cape
#

Yes. The answer is food

royal acorn
idle beacon
#

stupid neptuno

hearty sentinel
#

I will always be envious of Fragi's glorious beard personally

fringe cape
#

It’s easy to forget just how good every player is when we’re watching them compete against each other

fluid dagger
#

no joke

sinful fox
#

One time I played with Fragi on kings row and he was on reinhardt

#

I've liked fusion ever since

royal acorn
#

True

sinful fox
#

I was playing zarya too

hearty sentinel
#

Destroy a rip-tire with a rip-tire πŸ˜›

sinful fox
#

it can still go very far

fluid dagger
#

BATTLE MERCY

sinful fox
#

lol

#

look at jjonak

fluid dagger
#

I love these bold mercy's

sinful fox
#

nyxl has been beaten by a lot of teams that have shown better teamwork, but jj always stands out

#

always a place for individual skill

fluid dagger
#

llol

fringe cape
#

It’s his orb madness

hearty sentinel
#

Good. This match is going to go all the way

idle beacon
#

why is a mercy main playin roadhog -.-

fluid dagger
#

jjonak carry

#

mercy main playing roadhog? is this a comp match in plat?

hearty sentinel
#

Pine and jjonak clearly need nerfs

fluid dagger
#

PINE

#

oops

fringe cape
#

I’m so emotionally invested this week

fluid dagger
#

lol

#

yesterdays matches were kinda lame other than LA vs LA

#

but today is all fire

minor flame
#

Its hard to see LAG lose to me when you see the most obvious flaws

#

during map 5

hearty sentinel
#

Tomorrow is Philly v. SF, FL v. SHD, Boston v. Seoul

fluid dagger
#

all should be good games

#

Boston hasn't beaten seoul yet but they're on a damn warpath this stage

minor flame
#

As long as they dont play

slim summit
#

oh no 😦

minor flame
#

their B roster

fluid dagger
#

lol

minor flame
#

like all the time

#

because the B roster is one of the big reasons theyve turned mid tier

indigo barn
#

oh man the reverse sweep is upon the orange boys

fluid dagger
#

at what point does the B roster become the A roster if that's what they start most of the time?

minor flame
#

Jone-Ack

fluid dagger
#

game 5?

slim summit
#

philly probably won't win oasis

#

so we better hope not

hearty sentinel
#

NYXL needs to push the payload past 73M

fluid dagger
#

are we going to see 2 reverse sweeps in one night?

#

lol

minor flame
#

damn

#

mano big halt

slim summit
#

OH MAN

#

EQO

idle beacon
#

πŸ˜„

slim summit
#

RIPTIRE

#

πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™ πŸ™

hidden osprey
#

Who else got reversed sweep tonight?

minor flame
#

And people say Junk didnt need the nerf lol

#

London

fluid dagger
#

Bos reverse swept london

slim summit
#

OH MY

#

OH NO

minor flame
#

Libero on tracer lmao

indigo barn
#

NEPTUNO WITH 1HP REKTS

hidden osprey
#

He was 1 fucking HP

#

1

fluid dagger
#

holy crap

minor flame
#

yo my heart is fucking racing

hearty sentinel
#

THESE OVERTIME PUSHES ARE INSANE

slim summit
#

sigh

minor flame
#

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

slim summit
#

that was stupid

indigo barn
#

oh MAN

idle beacon
#

fuck you nyxl

fluid dagger
#

EQO went full fuck it

hearty sentinel
#

HOLY CRAP

idle beacon
#

fuckin stupid luck fucks

indigo barn
#

inb4 reverse sweep damn son

hearty sentinel
#

NOT LIKE THIS

minor flame
#

????????

polar pier
#

REVERSE SWEEP?!

minor flame
#

???????

fluid dagger
#

WAHT

minor flame
#

"stupid luck"

indigo barn
#

WAT U DO

hidden osprey
#

Philly look staggered as hell

#

Game 5 bois

north tendon
#

holy shit

#

HOW

indigo barn
#

ok gg game over bye

royal acorn
#

Match scores: PhiliFusion : 2-2 NYExcelsior

First map:
PhiliFusion 4-3 NYExcelsior :
Second map:
PhiliFusion 3-1 NYExcelsior
Third map:
PhiliFusion 2-0 NYExcelsior
Fourth map
PhiliFusion 3-4 NYExcelsior

Tie Breaker:
PhiliFusion: 0-0 NYExcelsior

warped axle
#

Are you fucking kidding me

north tendon
#

LOL

pearl stratus
#

Eqo picked up two with his tire, but neither of them were supports.

#

Thats why, honestly.

minor flame
#

NYXL now has a custom

#

where they must reverse sweep

north tendon
#

HI BOIS

minor flame
#

PD all the time

north tendon
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HERE TO INFORM OF THE REVERSE SWEEP

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FOR THE 2ND TIME

hearty sentinel
hidden osprey
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That last push from NYXL was really nice

pearl stratus
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If he'd gotten Ark with the tire, even Ark alone, it would have been fine.

leaden quail
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Holy shit

fluid dagger
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THESE GAMES

leaden quail
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that was crazy

torpid charm
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that was fucking crazy

fluid dagger
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THIS WHOLE NIGHT IS INSANE

north tendon
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I NEED TO REPLAY THAT

hidden osprey
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Ur crazy

torpid charm
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I'm so baffled

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@hidden osprey no U

pearl stratus
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Whole week honestly, minus Dallas.

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Lots of game 5s lately.

minor flame
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wasnt fuckign last week

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7 game 5s

torpid charm
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Philly pls omg get the win

north tendon
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philly must be majorly tilted after that one

pearl stratus
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Yeah.

royal acorn
pearl stratus
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Btw.

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For anyone who says 'Why do they bench SDB'

minor flame
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It was such a close match

pearl stratus
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Look at Eqo in that overtime.

royal acorn
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Why do they bench SDB?

pearl stratus
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And realize SDB will be benched forever.

minor flame
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no one was throwing