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Since when was that a thing 
Clean sweep
FISSURE MAD
idk, maybe owl got pissed because their precious league turned into a meme

SHIELDS UP
a good crowd for once 
what the hell
early cap for glad
lmao oof
J LUL KE
I just went to get a glass of water
yea same
SH
Z
"prepare your defenses" lets grab something to drink
being back "defend b"
NERF J
KE
Riptire is balanced
GO GLADS!
it's balanced tho
it is pretty balanced
J
K E
controlling it in the air is okay but not freely as it is right now
yeah
if they remove that riptire would be fine
like i feel it's still nice if you can control where the tire flies but right now it's just left and right spamming to avoid getting hit
holy god the crowd is almost louder than the casters
spicy crowd
should turn it down a bit
Daaam
remember when dragon blade was 8 seconds
they saved it
PAID CROWD
and everybody was complaining
either that or they've made the crowd louder artifically
i mean its obvious, this is LA vs LA, getting played in LA
0 ticks
Remember when DM was 6 seconds
DM?
remember when mercy could res everyone
remember when bastion had a shield
remember when mccree was a sniper?
Remember when this game was an MMO
remember when
remember
rem
remember when symmetra's shield giving was an ability and not an ult?
R
.



oof
huh you know I don't
free tick wtf
cmon we c9ing now?
remember when 76 had bullshit range with his spread
Agilities last chance btw
do they just want to give them a free win
paid actors btw
OOF
HUGE
OOF
J LUL KE
HUGE FUCKING TIRE
BIG
HUUUUUUUUUUGE
HUUUUGGGEEEEEE
HUGE tire fuck
There is nothing balanced about riptire
tbh this match is fucking fun to watch, especially with this crowd
2 cp 
you balance dva by adding another mobile off tank
or changing the maps to suit less of a dive
I think
nerf her boosters cd
how do you balance the other mobile off tank
shits up so often
poor J
K E doesn't deserve this
just make it so that self-destruct isn't a get out of jail free card
99% of the time
Increase booster cooldown by 2 seconds
he does, if all you can play is Junkrat then yes
OOF
another tire
Last chance agilities
make it so that you get, say, 50% of your call mech per self destruct kill
then it would be fine

LETS GO VALIANT
remember when cancelling deadeye gave you 50% ult charge
Literally the only reason they won is because of riptire
her ult isn't even that good anymore

ok that would have to be tweaked
Hydration take my water
Bullshit
but I just don't want it to be free
most people in OWL use it to remeka
basically
That would be like McCree being unable to left click for 30 seconds if he didn't kill anybody with Deadeye
is asher still in korea
Might as well never play McCree
i don't want it to be a free remech
that just doesn
't seem like good game design
surefour looking dead
what if you made it so you cant cast self destruct after ur mech is destroyed
so you would have to time it
baby-va is meant to be weak
But her gun tho
i guess
like "you got demeched, you fucked up"
She's meant to be weak but she's meant to have a big payoff
HER BABY FUCKING GUN
If she's too weak there's no reason not to cliff yourself and reset
dvas biggest weakness is that the enemies can stagger your respawn heavily
And that's already the superior option most of the time
now that i think about it, i would find it interesting to have a hero that uses their ult charge as some kind of reccource, like while you use your ult, your charge decays until you decide to stop it
ok but if she's too strong there'll be less reason to despawn
would make sense for moira
remech
but idk if it would be op
Btw guys this is ESPORTS-DISCUSSION here
whatever
psst psst, gordon
That is correct
the lamb sauce is in #433318494453628929
Ps4 don't make me mad
Wow double click man
Dat sure4
double 
TIZUMI
surefour stepped up his widow play
I really hope they undo widow's buff to her hook CD
the difference from stage 2 and 3 is huge
she's way too oppressive imo
Widow doesn't need a nerf
she enables dive though
because of how much you lost per lost game
it's been pretty hard to really dive the widow actually, like you have to "bait"dive her and then dive her with the actual team
the thing about widow that i hate is how differently she forces u to play no matter how good or bad the widow is
Valiant looking lost
To be fair if you nerfed her zipline you'd also have to nerf guardian angel
They are stacking ults
This match going to Glads 3-1
for one big push
if this is a full hold
Which is a similar function and cooldown IIRC
LUL
I am predicting this roight now
if you're wrong do you cook me a spicy meal
Only a demech
3-2 
Guardian Angel is nowhere near oppressive though
CMON VALIANT
GET A TICK DAMMIT
Someone woke up Hydration
LAG still have trans
that could have won
oof
Last week was a 5th map day bs but not today
Bye Valiant
Smh
Oof the blade
the desk overhyped LAV so hard
OOF
like aside from seoul they had the easiest schedule ever

AIRHAN
shanghai, shock and fuel
YES BBY
yikes
FULL HOLD FUCK YEAH โค
arhan blade right there
HOOOOOOOL DAT BOI
1 - 0 
yoikes
Monte said they were overrated, and Monte is usually right
Val looking like my team lol
I feel like Valiant swaps Soon over to the Widowmaker there and they win that honestly.
That was disgusting
hard to play into a widow when you have a Mercy pocketing and a huge shield to shoot through
that handsome battle picture
Ikr
That sign lmao
LOL
De fucking stroyed
Ikr
The shield isnt up on Surefour tho
That's some Airhan gameplay lol
So Soon swaps widow, gets a nice shot in on him, and thats it
right, but they're playing around the shield, which makes it difficult
Agilities did good on the pick on junkrat tbh
the only real pick you can get is the enemy widow, who can easily be ressed anyway
The shield would make no difference
if he pulled otu his blade and killed s4 sooner it mighta been enough
Mayhem had to face the top in week 1 and 2 @hollow current this stage
out*
So if Soon goes widow, it STILL lets his team get in
yikers
only if he can get a pick, which is difficult as it is on that map
No.. no pick required lol
Wait what is this
If it was that easy they would be running widow like they had in the past
If Surefour stays on the highground, Soon can kill him for free.
SUREFOUR THE BOI
New layout?
wow riptire is so balanced
More than just stats?
Yeah
I'm not mad about it, I like it
Tisumi deathless
they would had point b as well if not for that skillful skillrat skilltire
new screen nice
I don't get to see full shots of widow portraits anymore though ๐ฉ
woahhhh this new display is sick!
Thought command center was available on mobile for a second 
i like this new screen
what was surefours wep acc?
i especially enjoy the screen of the arena showing everyone awkwardly milling around waiting for the next game
i missed it


That new merch link tho
Official Merchandise
im fully expecting a reverse sweep eventually
this series belongs to los angeles OMEGALUL
thonk

asher in
Hydration gone PepeHands
2
they have no idea when the webcam view is on them right? because those headphones are soundproof
at least at the beginning they do
not 100% sound proof
Wait who got swapped? Both teams did?
xQc said you could hear the audience sometimes
theres a light or something on the camera which shows when they're being shown on the screen
Thank you
yeah
awkward bois
Mickie has the best camera presence for OWL
i assume they're turned off during matches so its not distracting
like how can you not smile when you see him
KOREAN TRACER = WIN haHAA
i think they see it, i guess there's a small thing lighting up that shows them that they're on camera right now, how else do you explain the flip-off from profit earlier
i thought that was a mistake?
P R O F ๐ T
he said he didn't know it was on but he might've just been saying that
mirror compssssss
oooo
that was wp by surefour
SUREFOUR
tbh Surefour didn't really do much, his tanks created so much space
but i gotta admit i find it kinda boring that mercy STILL is present in so many matches
are they gonna nerf brigette before she's released?
welp
i don't think there's anything they had to nerf on her
guess i cant play gengu
we still dont know if she requiresa nerf
her shield bash is insane
I don't think she's gonna be that much of a problem in pro play
we need to see how good she is in different ranks in comp
she's definitely a pain in ladder though
she will obviosly be very good in low ranks
idk, can you deflect the shield bash?
of course not
If she needs any nerfs, it'll be to her a shield bash cd and maybe making the hitbox smaller
otherwise she seems fine tbh
he shield is nothing, just melt it and she has basically no use for her team
think they should just increase the shield bash CD
a lot of people don't like it because hurr durr low skill
other than that i think she's ok
ye same
they gotta fix the hitbox tho
although i do agree that the sheild bash hitbox is a little large
like u can miss it and it still hits
If you change her shield bash hitbox she'll end up feeling like doomfist
i think dive requires lots of skill and plenty of communication, at least in higher levels
idk if it got fixed yet but at one point it was insane
even though Doomfist was more broken in every way
df's issue was a massive number of bugs
doomfists main damage source isnt his punch
that the big hitbox covered up
its his combos
the punch is better used as an escape
now that they're being fixed he's getting viable
yeah, I reckon he'll get more bug fixes and maybe a few buffs
at least that's what it seemed like with what Jeff said about blizz not being happy with the current winrates for DF and Sombra
bunny is so good
i mean its basically 3 pointws
man, at this point, "clutch" dragonblades are so fuckin boring
@hollow current yeah that need tweaking but other than that its fine
mhm
genji is really just used for his ult
but those are so common it's not that interesting
People who get wrekt to Brigitta usually made spacing mistakes
yeah they ALWAYS pop up
or don't know how to counter her
i'm tired of it
the funny thing is my dragonblades are my worst part of genji
his kit makes it so easy for him to poke until his has blade
it's like Bastion on launch when people were calling him op cause they don't know how to fight him
Genji is my 2nd least played hero hah
i think in my playing this game since launch day, i have like....20 minutes on genji total
oh man, I remember getting a match MVP card with Bastion on release 
if you don't want to learn how to play against her, just play pharah
or junkrat
i just hope brigette wont 100% counter genji/tracer
doesnt seem balanced to counter 2 of the hardest heroes by something so easy
the very nature of tracer's character is that you can always play better
you probably just avoid brig as those two characters
mhm
unless brig is super low
but if she stands on her other healer(s) you cant ever dive her
Tracer just has to play more defensively against Baguette
since her cooldowns are so low
you are not supposed to dive her
that's the whole point
nor are you supposed to 1v1 her
but u are supposed to dive the healers
or backline in general
what rule book says that?
i mean
different characters are dealt with in different ways
^
do you see people just diving a winston everytime?
if u dive a winston/dva they will just get healed up
look, Brigitta is not a zen or mercy
yeah, so don't dive brigitta neither
nor 1v1 her
unless you have the rnage
range*
literally every healer except zen and ana have some type of escape
again she will just stand next to the other healer(s) and insta cc anyone on the backline
the JJoNak special move
there's a reason we use terms for their intended meanings
like, do you deal with every dps the same way?
or every tank the same way?
the way you kill a zen is different than a moira or a brig
fuck
;-;
SAVAGE
they'll probably dive dva now to give agilities an open field
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
hot damn
that EMP

HUGE
YUUUUUUUUUGE
fuck
ANOTHER TRANCE?
SUREFOUR
WHAT?
wwf
what is happening
WOW
holy crap
i cant believe this
GODDAAMMMMMMMMM
that was
jeeesus
how though
DANG!!!!!
how the fuck did they bring that back
ez clap
I guess
holy shit
Bunny?
what a team fight
that was amazing plays from both sides
i love both teams pls no hate
FISSURE WENT SUPER UNGA THERE
I don't like LAV
that kid looked like he wanted to die
I like LAG though
that was freakin amazing
Fissure overextended a bit in primal
yeah but i think it would had played out better if he went back
if you watched iddqds stream once fissure went full primal one time, he's just been saying NYOOOO the whole time in voice chat until the match was over
instead of getting picked
he didn't killed last chance
cause of the mercy pocket
it was him vs 5
not smart
last chance had way too many good blades
the dude just went full UNGA
looked like the LAG DPS were just out classed
that too
they didnt have a way to deal with bunny
also Bunny >>>> Soon
guys a monster
That Bunny save tho
inb4 silkthread in next match and destroys LAV
Thought Glads had it
i wanna see silk play some genji like he did in preseason
remember that game saving blade against shock
damn what a twist that game was
nice mic
did y'all get your drop for numbani
HOL UP
because I think mine aren't working
BLIBBARD GIBE TOKENS PLZ
no
aight
nope
Since when is there Goldenboi Again?
how do you check your drops btw
Since today?
i think it takes a bit of time for them to come
But why
twitch notifications
I want Puckett
what
mine usually drop instantly
i like goldenboy ๐ฆ
GIVE ME PUCKETT
I didn't get the one for anubis at all so I'm wondering
i hardly ever get drops immediately
yeah neither map today gave me drops
Puckett's on a break chill
Oooh
hydration guy is back
yeah i got mine
I never get drops
wow thanks bliz
what's the score now?
1-1
o damn
Can't you get drops from mobile
i feel like its gonna go 3-2 for val
you can i thiink
probably, but idk
The first match starts at 1 am so I have my laptop turned off
Does shanghai play today?
last game against dynasty
Oof I won't be up by then
i'd imagine the entire arena is gonna be empty LOL
shanghai gonna 4-0 dynasty you heard it here first
LUL
๐ค
maybe in stage 4
0-8 this guy is a disgrace
Arena wouldn't be empty for Shanghai.
Arena goes crazy hype for Shanghai, its hilarious
oh true
but they're up against dynasty
i'd doubt they will not be 4-0ed
Dynasty is pretty meh this stage so far
scam?
yeah would love that
The reason its free right now is because its not good and they're probably getting free feedback
it gives u an extra camera angle, stats and a few skins for 30 bucks
pretty much a scam
20 if you're a real person.
See what others canโt with the Command Center, a unique multiview stream with player facecams, new stats, alternate in-game views, and more.
you also can see the side player's cam, but that's useless
scmaz
damn
@pearl stratus access pass isn't free
For right now it is
its free until may 16
no it's not
Apparnetly it is for everyone but you
the stuff i posted above .. where's the command center. . if it's for free
there's a tab under the stream
Free access ends May 16! Get the Pass
Shout-out to whoever has the AEO sign at OWL
under the stream
what is this command center bs
u see where your battletag is
its a scam
the blizzard logo
what does it let me do
if shanghai wins i will buy shd skins
ive been saying that for the past 3 matches but have yet to buy one
if shanghai wins i'll buy that useless fuckin all-access pass
what if they lose?
you save yourself 30 bucks
I'll defo buy a skin if they win
im getting one either way they look cool
i'll get it once it lets me spectate individual players
my god they held that for a while
if it let you do that i'd already have it
i don't think that's ever gonna happen tho
better not make the away skins all acces pass only
that's a huge strain on the servers
If you are a fan of shangai, you should have gotten a skin already, no need to wait for them to win to motivate you 
i think i have enough for 7 more skins
we should atleast have replays with pov
just from watching league
i'm not a fan of shanghai i just like underdogs
yeah they're coming out with away skins and they said that they're for all access pass users
but it was really poorly worded so its not clear
also idgaf about away skins they ugly
i think getting replays with pov would be hard
considering its like 36 povs per day blizz would have to post
ha, pharahs killed each other
would like to see a replay of that
i kinda hate all of em
silkthread is getting fucked on
rip lag
pro barrage ๐
C9
wtf
rip
damn
CEEEEEE NIIIIIIIINE LUUUUUUULLL
bs
lav has been looking really good recently
uh
someone needs to make a compilation of all the C9s so far
cee nein
@candid cedar they've had the easiest schedule
the pharah was on :c
Its a Zzzzzzzzzzz nine
Pharah wasn't on, he was using ult
true
Still midair
valient actually using lucio??
madmen
dive is so fuckin annoying lol you can literally ONLY boop the zen
why are they running silkthread over hydration here just wondering
everyone else can recover from it
is he better at pharah
maybe
Disabilities LUL
me too man
I still love the mercy mains out there tho
the good ones
the ones that pocket a full health rein can go away
Mercy is the top picked support in OWL this stage, lol
yep
at least she not as cancerous as she was before
Beat Zen by .04%
Res is too powerful in comp
she's still fairly cancer
and in general tbh
demanded a refund for her golden staff
@hollow current my friend is a mercy main and now refuses to play her after her nerf LUL
rofl
i think she's in a good position
they got used to being able to be SUPER useful and win easily even though they're not very good at the game
so it felt unfair when she was reeled in
its over
like you can actually see how they climbed during the mercy meta and after that they dropped back to where they started
LMAO
damn
nuce
maybe hydration wouldve been better after all
Yo letโs fucking ho

ho ho ho?
True
https://puu.sh/A63An/45c934cf3c.png
@shell sonnet
lol Mercy is unfair??? Wow

before her nerf
What would you think of Tracer?
she's never received a nerf or buff has she?
makes sense, considering she's kinda the poster girl for ow
Bliz make it happen, Santa Pharah
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/196/655/36d.jpg
oh my goooddd
pharah so sexy
yeeee boiiii she da best
source?
for uh
a friend
it's too bad she canonically has the personality of a piece of driftwood
LOL
the truth hurts
ESKETIT
were the teams shown in order from the last rank to the top? lol
come on boys lets take this to game 5
who's playing after?
dallas fuel and shock
DF vs SFS
i just wanna laugh at akms genji some more tbh
well that's their first match after kyky got released
shock will have super back so it shouldnt be close
true
ayyy lets go surefour
That fucking Shaz play lmao
oh my god
are LAV really struggling against a bastion rn
BASTION IS BACK
WOW BASTION BRO
The fact Glad STILL has the Bastion
Well they just switched now lol
i figured the rip tire would take the bastion out and end it but surefour with the clutch snipe
oh my god
OOF
agilities getting seriously cucked on these tires
C9
what a fuckin smash
he lit a fire under him
C999
nobody better than fissure
Surefour always looks dead inside when he's on Widow though
tbh he looks dead inside at all times
with that hair surefour still looks like short version of xqc
SureDaddy
lul
Him and Hydration.
surefour is dead
Just staring.
never seen him show emotion except at the end of the matches
Who ISNT dead inside tho
Dead.
short and chubby
Except Mickie
Surefour, Hydration, Shadowburn to make a new team.
Of people who are most likely serial killers.
agilities looks underage with that hair
jaded gamers
lul
Shadowburn benched because he can only kill people two ways.
BLIZZARD GIVE TOKENS NAO
wait i missed it but was soon on widow the whole time
is there a bug with the tokens
No skins left I care about.
THAT SNIPE
i'm not getting any, i think someone else said they weren't either
1000 iq play
hook bugs LUL
nice
TANK BOY GONE
2 snipers are pretty common on this map
2 snipers and one healer this feels like my comp games
low ground hanzo new meta
WOW
Surefour the MVP for destroying tires today.
junkrat tire op
He's like, the anti Michellin boi
i think its more of an agilities misplay than a surefour outplay
I'd say thast once.
he makes it so ez for s4 to hit the tire
But 3 times?
i mean he has a clear line of sight everytime
SELF DESTRuCT POTG
its a big target for a widow
he has a severe hatred of tires
surefour is popping off
CONTEST SUREFOUR
popping the FUCK off
SUREGOD
widowmaker a really good interior designer OMEGALUL
OH MY GOD
OOOH SHIT
hahaha

O O F
OOOOOOOOOOo
TISUMI
TIHIS GUY
SUREFOUR PLS
BRUH
i love s4 so much
CONTEST S4 PLEASE
jesus finally they swap off the S4 pov
he gets so much screen time
I want to see more of the tanks
for a good reason
soon not up to par toady
lol
I wonder who's getting player of the match.
Fissure wasn't lying when he said S4 has upped his widow play
hes getting all the rad snipes tho
s4 hitting insane shots is way more entertaining than winston zapping people
^
sheilds up
shields out
WINGS OUT
cucked
GAME 5 LETS GO
yeah he's hitting shots, but when you have the POV on the sniper for over 50% it's not exactly engaging
G A M E 5 B O IS
map 5

GAME 5 LETS GO BOIS
LETS GO BOISSS
HYDRATION WITH THAT INSTA KILL LMAO

Oasis?
ESKETIT
BRUH
JEBAITED
yea oasis
best widow
suremom
o
yo his mom a snack
tiebreaker is always oasis this stage
that suremom
hydration guy
lul that guy
PAID MOM
who's the puppet
LMAO HYDRATIGUY
aw
PAID PUPPET
thats cute
dude how many times we gotta see this
Too bad Widows bad on Oasis
ads
what the hell kind of ad is that

PAID AD LUL
They should go Asher and Hydration
PAID PLAYERS LUL
they got shit on the 1st control so idk about this lads
1 death lmao
2-10
8%
gladiators get both of em
damn
Jokes on Surefour. Custa after match is jus going to try and fuck his mom.
Soon playing kind of like crap
i wonder why they had the hypest match be 1st in the schedule
Soon hasn't really had to play against a better Widow than him so far this stage.
draws more people in ig
Dragons match has more hype
eh
To be fair there's only like 1 Widow better than S4
Well the schedule for the entire league came out at once @nova pelican
u sure about that bud
im saving all my energy to give the dragons in their match
is shanghai next match or the third one?
3rd
3rd
5th map
@candid cedar Everyone knows Dragons going to win
Exciting
SPACE LUL
i want them to win, but they disappoint me everytime ๐ฆ
no surefour no win
neeeeee
lol
rip df
no s4 no win
I do not understand this decision
i wanna see how suicidal effect is gonna look today
ye me neither Ramsay
I am confuse
the more mad effect is, the harder he carries
BUNNY IS HERE LETS GO
This could go either way
LETS GO GLADS

gladiators dps hero pools overlap so much its always a surprise whos in what map
yo anyone getting token drops?

i haven't been getting any today
watched all 4 matches that have been completed and i haven't gotten any tokens
AHAHAHA

FISSURE
lmao wut
hahahaha
IS THAT MIRO
THE BEST
MOST HANDSOMEST
wutttt
LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLL
wow
GOOODAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMM
too funny
that was so fucking rad
Fissure watching that Muma stream
what is this i don't even
UNGAAAAAAAAAA
FISSURE LOL
HAHAHAHA
