And taking out McCrees.
#esports-discussion
pearl stratus
onyx shore
would be lit if DF can win...but ...nah...
silk linden
I think SBB is being claimed as the undisputed best Tracer only because he's on the best team. I think Snillo, Carpe and Effect are basically just as good
pearl stratus
I think situationally it can be argued in multiple ways.
pearl stratus
SBB rarely has to worry about anything but the other teams supports - his own team is amazingly self sufficient.
Which means he's allowed to be as good as he is.
He has no restriction.
cedar oxide
Jjonak is as much as a dps as SBB is lul
pearl stratus
He's more of one.
onyx shore
@cedar oxide which team shd will play this week?
pearl stratus
Jonak does more damage per game than any other NYXL player.
Pretty much every game.
cedar oxide
@onyx shore Florida
pearl stratus
I love the casters because they get confused by Jjonak.
"JJonak with... 28%... of his... teams damage...?"
"The fuck?"
hidden vault
Too bad SHD didn't get rid of MG Altering and Freekill or is it Freefeed?!?!?!
onyx shore
they wont
pearl stratus
No reason to get rid of MG minus petty childrens grudges.
onyx shore
it's national pride
cedar oxide
Thats their whole roster lul
onyx shore
this is why i dont think they will go full korean
pearl stratus
His Hog will still be more than useable.
hidden vault
I thought they would sign more chinese players other then Sky lol
cedar oxide
Altering is good
pearl stratus
Freefeel I would have released to pick up a different support though.
Altering is getting good, he's not there yet.
But he's definitely getting there.
cedar oxide
Diya, Xushu, MG, Roshan, Altering, Fiveking, Freefeel and sky are all chinese lol
hidden vault
I prefer fiveking tbh
pearl stratus
Fiveking has looked like shit this stage.
More than Altering.
Honestly more than Freefeel almost.
torpid charm
they're all shit but Freefeel big shit imo
cedar oxide
Who played battle mercy on temple of anubis against SFS?
pearl stratus
I'm back to the fence with Freefeel.
Because last game where he actually had some tank protection
He got some really good picks on his Zen.
Which was new.
pearl stratus
Sky hasn't played in a bit though, I'm wondering whats up with that.
hidden vault
Fiveking did well solo'ing Architect tbh
cedar oxide
No no no no wait.
What about cocco.
I really want to know whats up with cocco.
Like taimou said hes probably not going to play again.
And so did custa.
and so did xQc
I'm so confused dude.
pearl stratus
I think it was an okay solo of Architect.
The problem was Architect still won the fight
Even though he died.
Because Fiveking had to pop Valk to secure the kill.
So it was a support ult forced.
@cedar oxide He doesn't play well for current tempo and meta.
He's not an aggressive tank, and never has been.
onyx shore
with oge performance,i dont think cocco will play
torpid charm
Free Cocco 
pearl stratus
Which means he's uncohesive for his damage line, especially Effect.
cedar oxide
No its not that,
pearl stratus
So you'd be actively putting in the worst tank in the league.
cedar oxide
Its like personal problems.
pearl stratus
Yes it is.
pearl stratus
Yeah. I did. And then, if you trust Leakyboi xQc, it stems from a scrim they did.
Where Cocco broke on Eichenwalde.
Because he wasn't playing effectively and people tweaked on him
cedar oxide
Lol I've been watching a lot of xQc lately
pearl stratus
basically.
Your best DPS, and the only reason you're even in the league, doesn't like your tank because he's not aggro.
cedar oxide
Cocco plays tank?
torpid charm
Leakyboi xQc 
pearl stratus
You don't play that tank.
hidden vault
Is cocco the worse tank?
pearl stratus
In the league right now? For the meta?
Yeah.
He's a great defensive tank, a solid Rein.
But when the meta is aggro and setting tempo, he's not that style.
cedar oxide
cocco isn't aggro.
hidden vault
Then he should work well in defense?
pearl stratus
Defense is still aggro.
cedar oxide
He's a "I'll protect my mercy and my supports more then diving"
pearl stratus
All the time is aggro.
hidden vault
Mickie isn't aggro
hidden vault
xQc or OGE who is better?
cedar oxide
OGE
hidden vault
Yeah fearless is good
pearl stratus
xQc is a ladder tank.
He never got to play enough in the league to become a team tank.
hidden vault
Streamer tank
pearl stratus
Remember, Ladder is useless as shit.
cedar oxide
Thats true.
pearl stratus
It's a garbage tier of people.
pearl stratus
#1 Ladder tank is iRemix, just to give an example.
cedar oxide
Like they're not.
hidden vault
Why is iRemix even picked up?
pearl stratus
Because he's not the worst, and he's played well with Bischu.
pearl stratus
So you had a cohesive MT+OT in the two.
torpid charm
him and Bischu are a pair and they didn't have anyone else really
cedar oxide
Actually Dafran is good and he's on the ladder
torpid charm
now they have Fissure
pearl stratus
We assume he's good.
Anything involving latency is questionable when you swap to LAN.
cedar oxide
Fissure is a good main tank
pearl stratus
LAN changes a lot.
cedar oxide
Thats why they scrim.
torpid charm
Sinatraa is a gr8 on ladder but questionable in the League, he stepped it up though
pearl stratus
Imagine like a top ladder Widow going to LAN against an OWL Widow.
It'd be a slaughter.
onyx shore
like kephrii?
pearl stratus
I said a top widow.
pearl stratus
Not a cunt widow.
hidden vault
LOL cunt widow
cedar oxide
Going up against Creamkazper
pearl stratus
Plus, isn't he basically banned from Tourney play since he did the symmetra lock and throw in one?
cedar oxide
wtf lol
hidden vault
On purpose??
torpid charm
cunt Widow
onyx shore
@pearl stratus do you mean that meme dream team?
hidden vault
At least dafran didn't threw a tournament
deft valley
no accidentally lul
hidden vault
Wtf big throw
onyx shore
was that a tourney where he plays with other overwatch youtubers?
like losefruit and oasis?
pearl stratus
Nah I literally googled "Kephrii throws tournament overwatch"
And it was the second result.
hidden vault
But his fans still love him anyways
cedar oxide
And when he lost he would blame it on the stupidest thing
torpid charm
you are bad person but your aim is good
cedar oxide
Zerg is 14 and beat kephrii at his own widow
pearl stratus
Rofl. SBB streaming with Kephrii was amazing.
It was the most polite shit talk I've seen in a while.
And said so matter of factly.
cedar oxide
Thats the one where he said his dick was small?
onyx shore
@pearl stratus did that throwing incident gets him banned from anything?
pearl stratus
I honestly don't know @onyx shore
torpid charm
Taimou reading Kephrii's messages = best video ever
onyx shore
dafren threw matches,and then got banned,but that's only his account
cedar oxide
I know dafran did it because it was funny
royal acorn
What are you guys talking about?
cedar oxide
And because he wanted everyone to troll
torpid charm
players being wild
pearl stratus
Dafran also actively wanted to get out of competitive and "pro" play at the time too
So it was the best way to do it.
cedar oxide
But he's refusing to get into another competitive match
Because he doesn't want to go "pro", yeah
pearl stratus
Remember him giving the whole "I'd rather go back to McDonalds than play Pro"
royal acorn
I'd rather do that Kappa
cedar oxide
I'd rather go pro.
pearl stratus
It's like xQc right now "If Brigitte goes live into comp like this, I'll quit OW"
It's literally a win win scenario.
Shit, Blizzard will probably buff her after that statement.
pearl stratus
He's not even toxic himself.
onyx shore
he can stream other games and be just fine
pearl stratus
He just tards out with his fan base like a moron.
onyx shore
some probably leave him,but he'll gain more
pearl stratus
Like he actually has the capability for logical thought and decent introspection into the league and how things work.
He'd honestly probably make a really good coach.
And I say that not joking.
cedar oxide
The overwatch community have definately turned more and more toxic over the ages overwatch so viewers and players like to vibe with a streamer who feels that anger and shit in comp with them
its agreeable.
onyx shore
i thought shit will go down when kyky and timo knocks his door
cedar oxide
so did i
onyx shore
like
cedar oxide
All you heard was a knock on his door at like 11:53
pearl stratus
I think he's still playing smart, imo.
cedar oxide
And i was like monkaGIGA
onyx shore
i thought they gonna fight over xqc leaking some shit
pearl stratus
Since really if Blizzard wanted they could cancel his stream, lets be honest.
cedar oxide
He never did anything to hurt them.
onyx shore
if he broke any NDA,if there's any
pearl stratus
He didn't, but I think he knows not to push too much.
onyx shore
they could
pearl stratus
Even if he didn't
cedar oxide
He gave them more income and more viewers.
royal acorn
eh
pearl stratus
Blizzard owns Twitch for the next year and a half, realistically.
cedar oxide
They're partnered.
onyx shore
then again,blizzard can revoke your overwatch license without notice though
pearl stratus
"Partnered" isn't really partnered
Think about how much stupid money Twitch is making from a bad all access pass and bits right now.
IF Blizzard leaned on Twitch for it, they'd do it.
cedar oxide
Twitch is making more money than blizzard is from OWL via streams.
pearl stratus
Exactly. I don't think Blizzard would do it, because I don't think they care.
cedar oxide
Blizzard can make EZ cash through jerseys.
onyx shore
OWL viewership is like 120k on game days
cedar oxide
But when xQc was still in the league
pearl stratus
Honestly that's still insanely good, from an investor standpoint.
cedar oxide
And DF was playing
onyx shore
it's like equal with fortnite on regular days
cedar oxide
Lol ninja matches viewers with OWL though
onyx shore
i think
pearl stratus
Most investors were expecting a viewership of around 30k.
pearl stratus
It's actually only inflated a small bit on twitch.
But then you have to factor in: EU/Asian people
Who aren't awake to watch it live.
So they do vod views.
China, which doesn't use twitch.
The OWL site itself.
cedar oxide
They do re-runs.
onyx shore
well,that owl token drop inflate their viewership from 90k into like 110k
pearl stratus
Yeah but the reruns aren't considered "live" view.
cedar oxide
So EU and asians can catch the games.
onyx shore
i bet there are a lot of people that just stream it at 160p and leave it
pearl stratus
Oh I'm sure there is.
But my meaning was more that theres a lot more ways to view than just Twitch.
onyx shore
- i dont think blizzard dont use viewbot to increase viewership
pearl stratus
All of China for instance has to use the OWL website.
So yeah, 120k on twitch is still really good. But I'd love to see the numbers factoring in all sources.
onyx shore
there's still korean twitch
cedar oxide
Dafran did it agian.
onyx shore
i just hoped they wont partner with ESL,but they just did
at least it's not the highest tier
onyx shore
blizz partnered with ESL for overwatch open division
ESL hate stems from other esport
ESL hosted dota2 major tourney,and then got a deal from facebook,so they start exclusive streaming with facebook
turns out,streaming on facebook is really really bad experience
cedar oxide
I would think so.
onyx shore
valve got a rule that you can cast game from inside dota2 client,into your own twitch stream,as long as you're using your own mouse movement and voice
pearl stratus
I haven't seen ESL do much with them though.
twin dove
ESL also has a partnership with Caffeine still I think, havent seen anything from it in awhile thou lol
onyx shore
ESL noticed a lot of pros doing this,their viewership got beaten by amateur castiing
and then they start doing illegal DMCA takedown on twitch
one day after that,valve issues a statement,basically saying "only we get to sent DMCA takedown,not tournament organizer"
onyx shore
if one day there's an overwatch tournament streamed exclusively on facebook,you will understand
lul
cedar oxide
Ark
You need to go to South Korea.
Contenders and Esports is noticed so much there
Its honeslty amazing.
onyx shore
i'm amazed by apex,it was like korean variety show + esport
cedar oxide
Did you see the ceremony?
In front of thousands of people in one of the biggest towers in korea
onyx shore
this is only personal preference btw
in my experience watching esport
for me,the best way to watch is in your comfort zone,aka your air conditioned dark room
i've watched some esport tournament live
or in a pub with official broadcaster
i didnt ike it
limber pine
watching the OWWC in Blizz arena was quite the experience
cedar oxide
^^
Houston Outlaws are my only favorite OWL team
And I'm seeing them go up against dallas on the 21st
onyx shore
it's just my preference probably,i'm curious though watching overwatch league live
cedar oxide
It's amazing.
onyx shore
but if i go according my experience on other esport,i probably wont enjoy it as much as i'm watching alone in my room
crowd sounds on stream is amazing for me
crowd sounds live...just...yikes...
cedar oxide
Being in the same room people as hyped and as into a game as you are is cool
I mean some people are more then others but yeah.,
onyx shore
@cedar oxide if you watch overwatch league in the arena,is the screen you're watching,on the same level with your eye?
cedar oxide
No.
pearl stratus
I've honestly started watching through the OWL website itself sometimes.
cedar oxide
You have to look up
onyx shore
or do you have to look upwards a little bit?
pearl stratus
Because you can get the tokens from their site now too.
And Twitch can be annoying.
Also it helps that I don't need tokens anymore really.
So its whatever.
cedar oxide
Its pretty cool ark
You get to meet a lot of the players moms or dads
or girlfriends
family members and close ones
cedar oxide
next skin im getting is another outlaws DPS
limber pine
@royal acorn yeah the final 8 teams played at Blizzcon
royal acorn
oh yeah
gusty cipher
this year no tmobilemvp xqc 
onyx shore
still will be spammed though
gusty cipher
hell yeah
royal acorn
onyx shore
it's a meme for now
royal acorn
ofc we're safe
gusty cipher
nobody is safe
royal acorn
your scaring me
onyx shore
and it was kinda disgraceful
onyx shore
i dont have anything against xqc
royal acorn
It's 6:31PM and I have slept
cedar oxide
Get hit by a bus.
hidden osprey
depends, maybe xQc might play in OWWC if he's picked up
royal acorn
ty
cedar oxide
Break your leg.
onyx shore
but that t-mobile moment on owwc 2017 was embarassing
royal acorn
Your making me feel better
balmy wolf
Outlaws are the best, they have gay player
onyx shore
embarassing as fuck
pearl stratus
There's no Canadian main tank in the OWL.
gusty cipher
not expecting memes when doing fan votes
royal acorn
Feel safer
pearl stratus
So they may use xQc.
cedar oxide
Of course black.
hidden osprey
but also don't know if tmobile will have an MVP for the WC considering they're doing it for the OWL
royal acorn
Wait
balmy wolf
I wish owl has gay black people
onyx shore
but do you really think it's wise to interview xqc like he's winning it all
royal acorn
Is the OWWC part oF OWL?
cedar oxide
ok.
balmy wolf
Or just black people
onyx shore
when you got SK team that actually won it on stage
pearl stratus
It's not.
hidden osprey
that interview was so awkward lol
balmy wolf
I mean owl players
pearl stratus
But any OWWC team that doesn't field OWL players is screwed.
hidden osprey
they didn't have any Korean translators iirc so they couldn't do a post match interview
pretty stupid of them to not plan for that
onyx shore
i didnt belive they dont have that
like
korean victory was guaranteed from the start
balmy wolf
Do you think is it real in season 2? We have Asian people white people but theres no black people, it's not right
cedar oxide
Blackpink thats what im here for
hidden osprey
p much yeah, but it wouldn't be Blizzard without inadequate planning
cedar oxide
Did you name yourself after the kpop group?
gusty cipher
korean victory is still guaranteed this year
balmy wolf
@cedar oxide ye!
cedar oxide
@balmy wolf Thats so cool
onyx shore
but i dont think it will be as dominant as previous years
gusty cipher
lol
onyx shore
usa can really challenge them
balmy wolf
@cedar oxide thanks man, and your name is Garfield?right?
onyx shore
unless
gusty cipher
not
cedar oxide
Yeah,
onyx shore
"my hands are cold" incident got repeated
pearl stratus
Canada can too.
gusty cipher
who you gonna send in for usa lul
gusty cipher
same as last year
balmy wolf
@cedar oxide awesome name
pearl stratus
I mean Jakerat does fuck up Korean teams, all memes aside.
hidden osprey
there's no way Jake will get picked up though
cedar oxide
@balmy wolf Its not as cool as kpop band but its whatever
pearl stratus
Disruptive as fuck.
onyx shore
dreamdaddy
pearl stratus
But it'll most likely be Danteh + Someone else.
torpid charm
they don't know how to counter the Jakerat
gusty cipher
owl is not an indicator for wc
balmy wolf
@cedar oxide ❤
onyx shore
sinaatra?
pearl stratus
Sinaatra if he keeps improving in OWL, maybe.
torpid charm
DK would be been an amazing pick but lol goodbye
hidden osprey
lul Sinatraa, he'll complain that SBB had a healing orb on him all the time
pearl stratus
Rawkus / Adam / Moth
gusty cipher
sinatraa will just complain about zen pocketing the enemy tracer lul
torpid charm
Coolmatt for off tank
pearl stratus
Muma or Fact + Coolmatt.
cedar oxide
@balmy wolf if you don't accept my friend request 😠
onyx shore
basically shock fused with outlaws
pearl stratus
Pretty much.
onyx shore
sweden?
pearl stratus
Canada will have a good team too.
Minus Main Tank.
They'll have to get some ladder shit tank.
torpid charm
Snillo for Sweden
onyx shore
agilities
pearl stratus
I doubt Mangachu, honestly.
If you can field an OWL player, you're picking the OWL player.
With a few exceptions.
onyx shore
what about finland?
pearl stratus
So you'll get NotE over Bischu most likely, + whatever tank they can find.
onyx shore
wait finland is actually solid
pearl stratus
Agilities + Surefour.
pearl stratus
Mistakes too now.
torpid charm
Bischu is good but I also agree with NotE over him
onyx shore
btw
deft valley
Russia's roster is likely gonna be largely the same as last year
and they didn't do too well
onyx shore
i hope we got the shitshow like last year
where on qualifier
israel meets germany
lul
pearl stratus
Israel gets Eqo though.
balmy wolf
@cedar oxide accepted mate, didn't see
onyx shore
so many people got banned that day
hidden osprey
I hope Team UK can actually field a decent team this time lul
onyx shore
@hidden osprey dude
hidden vault
France is gonna be rogue all over again
onyx shore
relax
deft valley
@pearl stratus he's making le edgy joke, not talking about the match
pearl stratus
Oh I know.
onyx shore
stylosa will carry the union jack
deft valley
lol
onyx shore
into at least semi
torpid charm
Eqo did well in the OWWC
onyx shore
yeah
without hulk,i dont see germany chance
even with him.it's just hard
well,it also depends on how good eqo's team mate
hidden vault
I'm surprised Adam isn't picked up my any OWL teams or even teams?
pearl stratus
Honestly lets be fair, you can look at the OWL roster and kind of assume who's going to d well.
Adam is in contenders
On XL2.
onyx shore
china team?
hidden vault
that's a hard guess
onyx shore
no undad for sure
hidden vault
Diya Sky Roshan?
pearl stratus
Probably most of the Shanghai Roster.
Because even if they're only meh in OWL standards.
They're still better than most.
onyx shore
thailand will also be mickie and friends
pearl stratus
Thailand so low SR.
hidden vault
but they are a host country
hidden vault
Seoul would be interesting though
pearl stratus
I could see this being the first year RHJ doesn't get picked for Korea.
hidden vault
no more RHJ
pearl stratus
Because I'd take JJ+Ark over RHJ.
onyx shore
he will probably be in comitee or whatever
hidden vault
SBB captain?
pearl stratus
I also wouldn't be surprised to not see Flow3r.
onyx shore
will there be subs this year?
onyx shore
so nyxl + carpe?
onyx shore
nyxl main roster + carpe/zunba
pearl stratus
I'm guessing most teams will do two tanks, two support 3 dps.
hidden vault
NYXL - janus
hidden vault
-libero/pine
pearl stratus
You'll keep Libero.
hidden vault
what about zunba?
onyx shore
pine is just too situational
hidden vault
meko for zunba?
onyx shore
if they gonna do nyxl team,you shouldnt put zunba
hidden vault
what about flower lol
hidden vault
you missing him out
pearl stratus
Honestly Flow3r has been kind of not amazing since his wrist injury.
onyx shore
nyxl main lineup + carpe/fleta/profit/birdring
hidden vault
fleta probably
pearl stratus
So I could see him deteriorating some.
hidden vault
Sad flower
pearl stratus
I'd probably take someone more LAN ready/accustomed.
If they could gel quickly I could see SBB + Fleta being an obnoxious combination.
Because one of the few heroes Fleta is downright better on than Libero is Widow.
The rest are 50/50.
hidden vault
So it's the tracer widow combo huh
pearl stratus
Best combo in the game on 90% of the maps right now.
@onyx shore Sweden has a solid line up too, btw.
pearl stratus
Tviq + Snillo.
pearl stratus
Cwoosh + Manneten.
hidden vault
man + cwossh
pearl stratus
Cwoosh improved a lot since getting a korean coach.
onyx shore
zebo and chips
pearl stratus
Zeb and Chips most likely.
pearl stratus
Yeah, you probably pick up an extra support
onyx shore
iddq gonna get benched again
pearl stratus
With how Chips has been lately.
hidden vault
Belgium would be logix spree and friends
hidden vault
nep harry and dark?
onyx shore
dhak
pearl stratus
Spain has all supports.
pearl stratus
Harry could go into a DPS role pretty easily though.
hidden vault
what about finland?
onyx shore
sweden got 10 players on owl : chipshajen, cocco, CWoosH, iddqd, Manneten, Mendokusaii, Nevix, snillo, TviQ, Zebbosai
Finland Finland 7 BigGoose, Fragi, LiNkzr, Shaz, Taimou, zappis, Zuppeh
onyx shore
Canada Canada 6 Agilities, Bani, Joemeister, NotE, Surefour, Verbo
pearl stratus
It's why Eqo can play for Israel despite being born in Colombia.
onyx shore
USA United States 18 Avast, babybay, Boink, Clockwork, coolmatt, Danteh, FCTFCTN, JAKE, KSF, moth, Muma, Rawkus, Seagull, silkthread, sinatraa, sleepy, SPACE, super
this is basically usa's choice
hidden vault
he is listed as a Isreali anyways
onyx shore
main tank is either fact or muma
pearl stratus
And Bischu is listed as canadian
onyx shore
super offtank
deft valley
he's allowed to play for either country
pearl stratus
No point in breaking up a duo.
deft valley
you don't actually need the citizenship
hidden vault
who would finland pick? BigGoose and Shaz? no zuppeh?
hidden vault
I believe it wouldbe coolmatt and FCT
onyx shore
uk only got boombox and numlocked on owl
hidden vault
since they did the world cup last year too
onyx shore
well,stylosa is alvailable
deft valley
stylulsa
pearl stratus
I'm guessing US will be Muma/FCTFCT + Coolmatt for tanks, Danteh+Silkthread+Sinatraa/Jake for DPS, Sleepy/Rawkus + Moth
onyx shore
when they got wrecked so hard by south korea on bastion
pearl stratus
Though I also wouldn't be surprised if Adam is in.
Some OWL players may not want to do WC, though I doubt it.
deft valley
i don't see why they wouldn't
twin dove
ya some of them want a chance at actually getting a win. 😏
onyx shore
unless you dont care
deft valley
in traditional sports it happens because of injury risk
pearl stratus
Watch - OWWC next year turns into the old Olympics ruling.
deft valley
but here I don't see why they wouldn't take the publicity they can get
deft valley
lol
pearl stratus
Honestly it'd probably be more fun to watch lol
deft valley
I doubt that will happen
twin dove
and then korea will be horribly unbalanced with the rest of the world
deft valley
Korea will just be even more dominant
twin dove
😏
pearl stratus
Since OWWC this year is just going to be another OWL Stage basically.
deft valley
because for how much starpower they have, their depth is even wilder
onyx shore
no owl players? pick contenders players
hidden vault
I'm waiting for china to form some crazy team to beat the koreans
onyx shore
i expect france will surrender asap if they can't field full rogue roster
hidden vault
they are the only country with the potential
deft valley
not really
onyx shore
i dont think they want to repeat 2016 where they field alphacast,kitty,and co
onyx shore
i mean,if there's a rule that OWL players can't play in owwc
hidden vault
that would be dumb honestly
onyx shore
yeah,wont happen
deft valley
Is winz even active?
hidden vault
winz is active
hidden vault
at least that's what is listed
deft valley
I'm just wondering why the French team wouldn't want poko
I get synergy and all
but the rogue haven't played together for a long time
pearl stratus
He's old, and tries to talk shit on Twitter.
I don't forsee Winz ever being relevant again.
deft valley
so it def won't be the same roster
deft valley
Russia's roster will basically be SDB and Mistakes + CIShope
hidden vault
zappis is a great zarya but not Dva D:
hidden vault
it might
pearl stratus
We might see teams bringing three supports because they want to run 1:2:3, or 0:3:3 on some maps due to Brigitte, etc.
Or some dps will start having Brigitte in their pool.
limber pine
i think 123 is more likely
ruby pendant
Yeah, 3 supports would make things interesting
pearl stratus
There's been a bit of 0:3:3 which is just weird to watch. It's a giant slug fest.
It's kind of fun in a way.
Btw.
There's a translation of Rascals stream from last night about his release
pearl stratus
Rascal calling out Winz is the best part of it, tbh.
But really its a mature little rant he went on.
pearl stratus
Eh yes and no.
Like right now there's nothing mature about the Korean casting scene. But I get it.
They flat out refuse to say OGE's name, ever.
It's super awkward.
He's just "The tank for Dallas"
hidden vault
The tank for Dallas is pretty obvious 😅
torpid charm
Rascal was talking that spicy shit
hidden vault
they probably didn't do that due to player's privacy? but not so much if it says "The tank for Dallas"
gusty cipher
some caster actually spoke out?
hidden vault
Twitter
gusty cipher
oof
torpid charm
Fissure was talking so much shit
pearl stratus
The problem is cultural difference and ignorance.
torpid charm
yes
pearl stratus
In Western Overwatch we bitch about leavers and one tricks, because thats our biggest issue. We don't have a lot of boosters, so its really not all that impactful.
And like anyone we assume our issues are the same as everyone else, when in this situation its not.
The casters did this with Pine and Flow3r too originally when they started playing.
After they got caught cheating in CSGO (I think it was CSGO) they never mentioned Pine or Flow3r by name.
And as time went on they slowly started to add it in.
Basically they were acclimating people to them via their play, before giving them their names.
However, back to wholesome OWL.
Joemeister did indeed make those Ravioli with Heidi.
torpid charm
I was gonna mention that vid
you gotta admit, the boosting & Sado bit was so goddamn funny
limber pine
A Valiant win and Shanghai loss today will officially eliminate Shangahi from the playoffs
torpid charm
how do you think playoffs will be
pearl stratus
I'm honestly more interested in this weird Seoul decline.
And wondering if Seoul will even make playoffs at this point.
torpid charm
me too
hidden vault
I really hope they do too
even if they did not make it for any stage play offs
what's the issue with seoul right now?
torpid charm
they're choking too hard
pearl stratus
Synergy is just off.
lilac atlas
Missing 2 playoffs by a hair can play with their heads
hidden vault
Synergy being off is unusual for a Korean team
lilac atlas
London is hitting the same performance block too
I think Noah Whinston said it well saying that they didnt pace themselves at the beginning and now its hurting them
Birdring is going through some stuff rn and its lowering spitfire's chances of winning
torpid charm
exactly, they go ham to start out then by like stage two or in Seoul's case, the end of stage one, all that energy is gone
lilac atlas
Its kind of poetic of the differences between western and korean teams
Though western players are a little too lax sometimes, they are able to keep their head up
While Koreans are too serious but deliver results
Its like ying and yang, sort of a balance of the OWL force
Lol, ill stop now
hidden vault
Maybe Hooreg can step up for Birdring?
hidden vault
Problem with teams if you don't have 2 players that are kinda substitutable
lilac atlas
Its just hard to lose a star dps
limber pine
1-5 oof
they may not even make the playoffs now
stage 1 (if they would have had 4 teams) would have had one 7-3 team in 5th place
pearl stratus
I mean you'll notice it from NYXL's coaching.
They're not prepping/practicing as hard right now.
They can afford a few losses in favor of mental health.
limber pine
I think you can do both
You just don't want things to get away from you
pretty pretty
still vortex
torpid charm
@limber pine that's beautiful
limber pine
Ikr
scarlet spear
the 10 character limit is kinda shitty tho
warped axle
Does anyone have an invite to Geguri's discord?
torpid charm
I could find it
silk linden
FrogChamp
slim summit
just so happens I have it in my browser history
warped axle
Thank
slim summit
np
twin dove
they got generic custom jerseys?
limber pine
what do you mean generic
silk linden
not player names probably
torpid charm
yeah they do have them
scarlet spear
yup blank ones are available
twin dove
i mean like maybe orange and black OWL style with no affiliation to a team
silk linden
...that's stupid
just buy a tshirt
do you want the irl equivalent of the skins you get on twitch for cheering
pay actual money to appear objectively lamer irl
silk linden
I'm just making an axample of an OWL something that isn't affiliated with any team
jagged crater
is that xqc talkshow thing gonna be a meme?
silk linden
and pointing out how the concept is inherently lame
deft valley
it is
jagged crater
i cant imagine xqc being host for even a semi-serious discussion of OWL
he's gonna go off on a rant or tangent every 5 min
deft valley
it's the equivalent of this http://nflshop.frgimages.com/FFImage/thumb.aspx?i=/productImages%2F_2873000%2Fff_2873461_full.jpg
like, just, why
Who wants a league jersey
silk linden
"sports!"
torpid charm
deft valley
go sportsball
pearl stratus
Depends. If he's nowhere near his Twitch chat I could see xQc actually doing decent analysis stuff.
He's a retard but he's not stupid, if that makes sense.
He understands how the games and the players interact really well, and does have a knack for knowing what players are going to do well where.
But since he wants a question and answers format involving twitch.
It's going to be a shit show.
scarlet spear
agreed, he has great insight on the game and understands definitely what players should do in certain situations... but i'm not too sure if he could actually do a proper talkshow
i'd definitely watch it tho if he does
pearl stratus
I think the most important part of it would be that he needs his own Mr. X type of person.
Who can bring him back in line when he gets all hype.
silk linden
I want xQc to invite Malik on his talk show
torpid charm
I love Malik
twin dove
@silk linden maybe I wanted a jersey style shirt with my name and a number on it? hmmmm? crazy notion. lul
balmy wolf
If only XQC could come on our podcast 😭
Also he would absolutely be able to do a proper show, he just wants to entertain
broken fractal
hella
torpid charm
any as long as you're Blizzard account is signed in
silk linden
make sure your stream doesn't automatically pause when you mute it and switch tabs
just mute the actual tab on chrome, right click on it
fresh turret
no but
it doesn't have a stream tab on the OWL page
I went to twitch, that should work
silk linden
it works on twitch if your twitch account is linked to your blizzard account
silk linden
OGE talks in such a weird way
pearl stratus
No pressure on Taimou this time.
silk linden
he has the cadence of an NYC Italian American gangster
pearl stratus
After his last performance people are basically just hoping he doesn't shit himself on stage.
silk linden
it's like hearing a Godfather character speak korean
pearl stratus
I think all this boosting talk back and forth may end up having the league be forced into making a statement/regulation.
silk linden
he's not a native Korean speaker?
maiden sapphire
Can anybody speak german?
red anvil
pearl stratus
Germans probably.
maiden sapphire
@silk linden you?
hazy arrow
Da!
maiden sapphire
@hazy arrow sprichst du deutsch?
maiden sapphire
Ah ok......
hazy arrow
but not how it is written
maiden sapphire
Can you join my server?
maiden sapphire
MincraftZocken
limber umbra
stuck agate
Woah what Seoul c9????? What match was this who were they up against?????
nova pelican
dragons take my energy
vernal obsidian
I like how the away skins pay respect to top players.
The rein skin is for fusion's fragi
the zarya skin is for dragon's geguri
etc
hazy arrow
What away skins? What are you referring to?
limber pine
@1johnnytheboy#4981 https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/985349491552223238
zenyatta away skins are terrible
always that big block of color on his face
night notch
If the dragons win tonight I will give all of you the succ
Also I'll buy the all access pass even tho I don't really like those skins.
vagrant niche
LETS GO BOIS
wait, i thought the access pass was free
maybe i confused it with something else
night notch
I remember someone saying some kind of access pass was free
But we might be having a collective hallucination.
reef imp
Yeah, Dragons against the Dynasty? Hardly any chance. But considering the Dragons' last match, they've been improving, so anything's possible, I guess.
hidden osprey
1-3 from me
night notch
If the first team to lose against the Dragons is Fuel it's definitive proof that there is a god
vagrant niche
it would be the biggest Upset of upsets history
limber pine
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torpid charm
DoA said 4/20 will be the day they get their first win
night thunder
pallid cargo
with Rascal gone, the Away skin for Dallas should really be Effect's Tracer
rustic perch
hai bois and grills
night thunder
LA v LA
strong crescent
predictions for tonight boys?
rustic perch
la wins
night notch
Dragons gonna get the 4-0 sweep
vagrant niche
Fissure going to go ham boi
night thunder
strong crescent
3-1 valiant, 3-2 shock, and 4-0 dynasty
vagrant niche
Lets cheer for Fuel
strong crescent
imo
night notch
Let's not cheer for fuel
vagrant jacinth
let's not lmao
night thunder
I agree
strong crescent
really hoping that shock doesn
vagrant niche
well I am
vagrant niche
vagrant jacinth
I kinda like shock
strong crescent
doesn't choke again
night thunder
btw
has anyone ever spent bits on OWL?
I bought those 500 bits for $1
(was good deal )
night notch
What's the name of the player fuel just screwed over? I kinda wanna support him on twitch
vagrant niche
lol
night thunder
Rascal
strong crescent
trihard
night thunder
I think he will sign to maybe Seoul or back to spitfire
great player just needs a space to do it
ruby pendant
Dragons winning tonight?!
rustic perch
not this season tho
vagrant jacinth
forgot slikthread moved to gladiators
vagrant niche
@ruby pendant
night notch
I hope he gets signed after getting shafted for an entire season
These seasons are really damned long
vagrant jacinth
ezClap
vagrant fossil
shields up or wings out ?
hidden osprey
WutFace is BACK
night thunder
dragons winning tonight 
vagrant jacinth
Wings Out
hidden osprey
Bren's hair looks amazing
vagrant niche
Pls Uber Pls Uber Pls Uber
vagrant fossil
PLS SEMMLER BC I WANNA WATCH THE WORLD BURN
stable wadi
They will win someday
night thunder
stable wadi
We will not rest
stable wadi
When they win I'm probably gonna cry a bit
night thunder
when they win
I want everyone
EVERYONE
to buy bits for shanghai
give them luv
stable wadi
I'd buy their skin if the game would fucking gimmie tokens
I haven't gotten a single one despite being logged in for every game
vagrant niche
ouch
ye Valiant might take it
with those stats
well, I'm still going to cheer for Gladiators
strong crescent
dragons win when?
stable wadi
SOON
strong crescent
(tm)
pearl cedar
I'ma buy a shanghai tracer skin
stable wadi
feelsbad
pearl cedar
in honor of diya if they win
stable wadi
I'm getting the D.Va one if I end up with tokens because Geguri best
Gladiators look kinda sad
weird
vagrant niche
maybe they are just focused
hidden osprey
Uber and X 
mortal cloak
lol
rapid bobcat
Did I miss funny entrances?
rapid bobcat
Glad we have UBERX
hollow current
are the teams not allowed to have funny entrances anymore?
rustic perch
nope
hollow current
they havnt done them in a while
rustic perch
nothing was said about that but it's obvious they arent allowed to anymore
hollow current
professional league i guess