#esports-discussion
grizzled kayak
cloud notch
XD
fluid dagger
ouch that trap
civic marsh
real talk i'm on good speed wired internet, why is my stream chugging so much
reeeee
fluid dagger
who gave zen deflect?
grizzled kayak
jjonak
fluid dagger
lol
nova pelican
WOAH
cloud notch
nova pelican
damn florida
vagrant niche
LETS GOOO DUUUUUUUUUUUD
fluid dagger
Boston practiced too much for NY lol
steep nimbus
mistakes isnt ready lol
brisk sluice
Map 5.
ruby pendant
Good!
vagrant niche
MAP 5 BOIS 
brisk sluice
Every game today has hit map 5.
fluid dagger
and now he's playing very off
grizzled kayak
yeah
fluid dagger
it'll get better as he practices I'm sure
cloud notch
more games means more league tokens 
nova pelican
vagrant niche
arent' we getting double tokens today?
fluid dagger
yes
onyx shore
more games means more memes
cloud notch
brisk sluice
Oh, there's a double token thing going on?
balmy wolf
are they going to game 5?
brisk sluice
Yes.
vagrant niche
yes son
balmy wolf
DAMN
balmy wolf
oh no
vagrant niche
LETS GO DUDE
nova pelican
every match today been game 5
onyx shore
btw
balmy wolf
oof
onyx shore
back then zebbosai used to be a widow specialist,right?
nova pelican
ouch those widow stats
fluid dagger
my widow stats are better 😦
median saddle
lets play a drinking game
nova pelican
yes
median saddle
take a shot every time zebbo dies
nova pelican
can we bail dream out of prison for a few games
fluid dagger
Boston can bring it back, Mistakes needs to shake his funk
onyx shore
if dream isnt getting a sentence,does that means he's innocent?
nova pelican
mistakes needs to channel his inner child predator
fluid dagger
mistakes should be able to play on Sombra for this round though, so hopefully that'll put him back in to his groove
median saddle
just depends on how good his lawyer is
cloud notch
pretty sure he got out of everything due to lack of evidence
median saddle
sure the text messages are pretty convictin
fluid dagger
there's no way any of us know anything for sure yet
and in a case like this they're not going to tell us
until later anyway
cloud notch
most likely stuff we will never know
median saddle
but unless any actually picture is revealed dream is considered "innocent"
steep nimbus
lmfao
fluid dagger
so tired of talking about it
steep nimbus
idiot
nova pelican
my mans was framed
vagrant niche
WE DONE BOYS
steep nimbus
those screens are fuckin proof he flirted with a teen dont even try to defend taht trsash
nova pelican
esketit ez win
vagrant niche
RIP my Mayhem
cloud notch
screens don't really prove anything
fluid dagger
this is the build NY tried
cloud notch
I can make an account and send messages to myself and make a case pretty easily
fluid dagger
they doomed
onyx shore
those screens are proof he's being creepy with underage,it's creepy,but it's not illegal to be creepy
brisk roost
LETS GO MAYHEM!!
steep nimbus
@cloud notch stop pls ur fuckin reaching
cloud notch
eh?
steep nimbus
its fuckin immoral as fuck
cloud notch
being immoral is not illegal
steep nimbus
legality isnt a measure of morality
brisk roost
Yo Mayhem is actually doing it
onyx shore
but prison sentence is based on legality
steep nimbus
someoen can be trash and be doing stuff withi nthe law
cloud notch
that's right
steep nimbus
not a difficult concept
onyx shore
that's right
nova pelican
no ones arguing that
cloud notch
no one is defending him, I am just stating there isn't enough evidence to convict him
doesn't mean I don't think he's a fucking weirdo
steep nimbus
theres plenty defending him
onyx shore
the girl isnt 100% innocent either
cloud notch
oh well
onyx shore
that doesnt mean dreamdaddy is not being creepy
lethal plank
we talking about xQc again?
nova pelican
shes not a hero shes a thot
steep nimbus
ok retard
nova pelican
dumbass sent him nudes shes old enough to know better
onyx shore
shes a thot,the only reason she outed him is bcos dream talks to another underage
if he didnt,she's fine with that
civic marsh
victim blamers hyperlul
nova pelican
i think you might be literally retarded for thinking sending an older man nudes makes her a hero
cloud notch
this conversation is leading nowhere
onyx shore
just like the song
steep nimbus
imagine blaming a victim of grooming
lethal plank
15 year olds are horny idiots. I've met many 15 year old girls who always talk about sex. tbh it annoys me
steep nimbus
fucking gross
onyx shore
and then the hero comes along
cloud notch
boston gunna win this
onyx shore
nobody said it's not gross
cloud notch
florida grasping at straws
nova pelican
boston got it in the bag
cloud notch
boston is just generally better at control
nova pelican
they lost the first control map tho which is worrying
vagrant niche
Mccree is not working
cloud notch
oh yeah, thats why I was surprised this wasnt a 3-90
vagrant niche
not feeling well
onyx shore
with what? bieber fever?
cloud notch
3-0*
onyx shore
nova pelican
i miss her
fluid dagger
they're doing a good job dancing around the pharah
lethal plank
you know what we need here? a Torb
civic marsh
zen is so busted lmao
onyx shore
rekt
fluid dagger
maybe so but they have nothing to really counter him directly
but boston is not going to give this away
nova pelican
ignoring the pharah is a viable strat
fluid dagger
absolutely, i wish more people on ladder knew that lol
same with widow
just watch sightt lines
cloud notch
Sombra's Hack and Zenyatta's Discord and D.Va's Defense Matrix
you can straight up ignore her
nova pelican
yeah its just boston used to have dream on pharah and he was arguably the best
cloud notch
dream was a better genji
onyx shore
ggwp
nova pelican
gg
cloud notch
massacred
fluid dagger
Striker decided Boston will win
cloud notch
dang
fluid dagger
SHOW NO QUARTER
cold plover
Aw well
steep nimbus
too close
grizzled kayak
gg
fluid dagger
Mistakes sombra vs his widow and genji is just like watching a different player
cloud notch
ikr
grizzled kayak
would be amazing if it was a reverse sweep for mayhem
civic marsh
he built a pulse bomb in about 10 seconds lol
nova pelican
remove widow from the meta pls
cloud notch
thats tracer for you
pearl cedar
he might've killed all 6
pearl cedar
nvm he killed 5 and demeched dva
ruby pendant
Mayhem are on the same level as Excelsior?
cold plover
Striker is second in the lead for most kills per match iirc
brisk roost
NYXL and Boston almost lost
cold plover
As tracer
2 almost upsets by lower level teams
Also sayaplayer and manneten insane carries
nova pelican
note
cold plover
TviQ sucked
median saddle
Zebbo is bad
balmy wolf
rip gg boston
nova pelican
next week is gonna be sick
cloud notch
for sure
steep nimbus
cant wait to see boston cleanup
cloud notch
I hope Boston beats Seoul
steep nimbus
boston dethroning every1
fluid dagger
if Mistakes can practice up, they could definitely win it all
nova pelican
boston for life
steep nimbus
fluid dagger
widow is too important for his play sadly
but at least it hasn't cost them whole games yet
fluid dagger
isn't he a support main?
guess he coulld be practicing upt ot swap roles though
these guys can usually play anything with enough practice lol
steep nimbus
hes more of a DPSy support main
nova pelican
imagine being named aimgod and playing moira
steep nimbus
zen/ana
fluid dagger
moira can't miss, hence aimgod
😛
he also plays winston and mercy
dude has like 90% accuracy on those characters
nova pelican
90% accuracy with winston what a monster
fluid dagger
(all sarcasm fyi)
cunning moon
Boston just needs to stick to dive honestly... Everywhere they struggled today they had Striker off Tracer.
nova pelican
nigga look like gandalf
balmy wolf
his beard tho
fluid dagger
even NY doesn't know how to counter sombra 😛
that said, even if they did, not sure they were gonna beat Boston with them on fire like that for that last round
cold plover
And if they ran dive and sombra themselves
fluid dagger
Sombra wasn't even their biggest issue
cold plover
They could have taken first map
balmy wolf
those jackets kinda look good
fluid dagger
maybe
cold plover
@fluid dagger mistakes reset every push on university
balmy wolf
too bad they're $120...
cold plover
With his sombra
fluid dagger
@balmy wolf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
nova pelican
120 for a jacket wtf
cold plover
@nova pelican arent supreme hoodies like a few hundred
nova pelican
yeah
onyx shore
120$ for jacket? just buy the bootleg merch
balmy wolf
is there any
fluid dagger
I got a boston shirt, that's enough for me for now
onyx shore
should be
fluid dagger
lol
balmy wolf
im asking for a friend
nova pelican
shit ill go print out a boston logo and tape it onto my own jacket
onyx shore
when the official product is too expensive,bootleg market will thrive
nova pelican
"its fun to fist people"
balmy wolf
i thought i misheard that
fluid dagger
Doomfist mains know what's up
supple prism
going for one skin from each team, so far 7/12
summer tangle
Doomfist never gets played
But a good doomfist is SCARY
He's underused imo
he never gets used in pro games because sombra is a direct counter to him
supple prism
feel like i should learn sombra
vagrant niche
if you are a dps guy, yeah you should at least know how to play a bit with her
vivid solar
@steep nimbus Can you please change your nickname to remove those characters on either side of DkKoba
vivid solar
@summer tangle Main downside of doomfist is that he's rather easy to kill
His hitbox is absolutely massive for the amount of health he has
vagrant niche
but honestly, sometimes is just better to stick with your team
specially if they have shields
like Rein etc
use them
and hack from it
call the hacked enemies out
and if your team is competent, it should be gg
it's still pretty annoying to be deal constantly with that flank Sombra just like tracer tho. but she's should not be full solo like Tracer is IMO
I played a lot of Sombra before the buffs came in
i'm sure i can do better with her, but right now my focus is improving my tracking which is going to transfer over to Sombra as well
balmy wolf
Did Boston win
vagrant niche
yes they did
balmy wolf
Hell ueah
brisk roost
They almost lost tho
summer tangle
3-2
brisk roost
Cause Florida won the next two maps
vagrant niche
Florida is free to Sombra
otherwise it would had been a different story probably
@R8 Promethean#1784 did you saw the clip i sent you?
rain pewter
that would've been florida > boston > NYXL
supple prism
mayhem is getting better though
wary iris
Mayhem is now the 3rd best Western Team
No joke no scam
Philly first
Boston Second
Mayhem 3rd
stuck agate
mcdonalds sponsorship pulling through i see
warped axle
idle beacon
he prolly meant western country not the west of that country 😛
limpid estuary
My bad
idle beacon
but ye .. phili, boston ... houston <> florida
oh wait
i totally forgot glads
l8r lads
slim summit
We've got some good games next week it looks like too
Boston vs London is scary
Glads vs Valiant will be cool
another Philly vs NYXL
NYXL vs Glads too
stuck agate
OOOOO PHILLY VS NYXL
slim summit
We're getting both the Battle for LA and the Texas Showdown next week
which last stage would have been meaningless because Glads were doing so well and Valiant were doing so shit
likewise Houston was doing OK and Fuel was losing every game
but this time around they're both fairly competitive
silk linden
Dallas are ready to once again "look pretty good" and lose by one map
I swear if people bring up the map 5 with NYXL again...
Gotta clutch those results friendos
Otherwise a good performance means jack
But we're getting there I hope
silk linden
Actually, you know what
Dallas are ahead of London in the stage https://ibb.co/e1LrMn
stark python
just finished watching right now, second map on oasis was brutal
slim summit
fr
stark python
I mean, I knew the result, but still
silk linden
Oasis is where dreams go die
vestal mortar
😭
hazy arrow
Hm
I feel like Dallas is closer than ever to be truly competitive
If we consider Effect - Rascal - OGE - Mickie - Unkoe - Harryhook as a man lineup
Then Rascal and OGE are doing amazingly
Effect is carry often but sometimes he wants to do too much on his own
summer tangle
Do you guys think glads or valiant are gonna win
hazy arrow
If we want to succeed, he has to learn when to back up
I'm not really sure about Mickie so thats the only question on this team
Unkoe and Harryhook seem extremely solid, we just have to make sure they dont die first
It would be interesting to put Seagull in for Mickie
Anyway, we certainly need a new coach after the season
We will probably say goodbye to Taimou
Hopefully we keep Cocco
summer tangle
3 page essay on Dallas fuel coming?
hazy arrow
And I guess we should still give Chips time and then make any decision about him
summer tangle
@hazy arrow
hazy arrow
"dm me ur paypal"
gusty cipher
someone explain to me wtf london was doing
gaunt acorn
hey man, philly beat them last time
slim summit
Nothing makes sense anymore
Boston is the only team to have beaten both London and New York
oh, Philly too ... if you count title matches
point is, it's Boston
and Boston loses to everyone
strong parrotBOT
Overwatch League - Season 1 - Stage 3
fresh turret
Bois
Did you see Gesture's amount of dmg blocked on that Junkertown match that one time on Orisa?
It was a whopping 48,205
How'd he get that much?
He would have to get all but one of his barriers completely destroyed in a span of 428 seconds (7mins and 8secs) assuming he used the barrier instantly every time he got it
Obviously not what he did but
Yeah
He'd have to apply 54 barriers which only one of which would be left with slightly under half health
Theoretically
balmy wolf
Noob question - what's up with the 0 ults in the stats? Are they playing Roadhog and never using whole hog or something
fresh turret
Probably because she swaps forms
tight vault
all 3-2 on double token day lul
tight vault
Feelsgoodman clap
fresh turret
Can I make sure I got tokens any other way than opening up the game?
scarlet spear
you see it on twitch
fresh turret
Where exactly
scarlet spear
you see it on the alerts thingy and
your inventory
if you press your account in the top right for the dropdown menu you can find your inventory
fresh turret
What's their winrate on assault?
warped axle
I don't know how to check
fresh turret
Me neither that's why I ask
fresh turret
18-8 is p nice
Is this data like actually listed somewhere in this type of nice form
deft valley
Winstonslab, go to team page
and apply filters by date
wew
we are actually one game away from a possibility of Shanghai being mathematically eliminated
right now they still have a marginal chance
onyx shore
eliminated from? stage playoff? overall playofff?
deft valley
overall
onyx shore
they already got no chance
forest raven
Shanghai will get a win circa early 2019
onyx shore
they need like intensive training camp for teamwork and cohesion
for at least 3 months
i wont be surprised if they got 0 win at the end of stage 4
torpid charm
dusky tinsel
I reckon SHD can grab one win before the end of Stage 4
royal acorn
Next match is on Thursday
dusky tinsel
just had someone complain that london are a trashcan team that shouldn't be called london
Chelsea FC have three brits in a roster of 24, none of them are from London, how dare they have 24 non-London players and be based in London
royal acorn
did the screaming girl scream in the other 2 matches?
torpid charm
DoA said that on 4/20, Dragons will get their win so I'm putting faith into his word
dusky tinsel
ye
brisk roost
Oh they're up against Mayhem huh
royal acorn
Dallas against San Francisco huh
pearl stratus
I mean at this point I could see Shanghai even getting a win off a non-bottom team. Right now anyone can beat anyone if the other team is having an off day/makes a small mistake
Houston, who hasn't been playing great Stage2/3, bringing NYXL to Game 5 Map 3 kind of proves that its really just the tiniest differences at this point.
torpid charm
everyone is fair game at this point honestly
pearl stratus
Also I think Jake has figured out his Tracer playstyle, and his Volskaya Tracer looked annoying af.
I think it makes sense he's working at playing more like SBB since they're friends.
silk linden
Friends through handsomeness
hidden osprey
Didn't Fuel also bring NYXL to a map 5 last time round?
paper crag
dusky tinsel
It's no longer a top 4 middle 6 bottom 2 kind of deal, it's equalising out now
torpid charm
anything can happen
vestal tangle
When is spitfires next match?
vestal tangle
Ok thank you
torpid charm
hoping for a Fusion win against NYXL next week
tight vault
Florida Mayhem is impressivwe
torpid charm
indeed
vagrant jacinth
people just don't understand how sports teams work lmao
torpid charm
wdym
vagrant jacinth
just the same thing rob said earlier about people complaining why they're called london when it's a korean roster
torpid charm
oh yeah, everyone says that and they honestly don't understand
I've always gotta explain why they are here and these people are on this team for this place
dusky tinsel
oh hey thats my name
frank grove
Was there a game today?
dusky tinsel
no
silk linden
nah
torpid charm
balmy wolf
im rooting fo the dallas dragons
limpid fjord
hazy arrow
These OWL-less days (especially first day after OWL) feel kinda empty
torpid charm
torpid charm
Undad was wilding out
you know you fucked up when you leave your social media up but haven't touched it because not a thing has changed on DK's Twitter
hazy arrow
I just hope he's okay (as much as he can be regarding the situation)
torpid charm
true. Boston seems to be doing pretty fine in regards to play but I know it's gotta be rough just losing a team member like that no matter the circumstances
hazy arrow
I mean, I'm just afraid he may think about suicide
Which lets be honest, no matter how nice guys at r/OW and r/COW try to make him like the worst person ever, what he did is wrong but thats it
No need to exaggerate
silk linden
does he have a family or something? It's not like he's alone in the world
he's not like EQO
silk linden
something with him being estranged from his family or something
Idk I just read this stuff on r/cow and r/owtmz sometimes
"When his father was diagnosed with terminal cancer, Eqo began to feel a great and horrible emptiness. He didn’t have friends, he wasn’t close to his brother or mother, and now his father was going to die."
“Basically, I don’t have anything left,” he said. “My dad was my best friend, and I lost him. Overwatch is the only thing I have, so I need to work the hardest or I won’t have anything.”
scarlet spear
torpid charm
I remember when I first read that and I just criiiiied, it hurt
silk linden
so many young kids in OWL, some of them are bound to have touching life stories
doesn't help that gamers are often social outcasts
torpid charm
true, being on teams like this helps though. I know Boombox and Eqo are fairly close, Tucker is also very sweet to Eqo. it's a really bonding experience, get with people you don't know that well, play together every day, they grow on you
hazy arrow
He lost his father when he was just 15
Life is sometimes incredibly cruel and unfair
@silk linden sometimes even a whole family isn’t enough to save you
lethal plank
Did Soe get banned for yesterday?
supple prism
@lethal plank banned for what?
stuck agate
soe got banned??????
brisk roost
Soe got banned for?
pearl stratus
Surefours AMA answer on Shanghai is pure and wholesome.
"Which team do you think will lose to the Dragons first?" "The first team that actually underestimates them."
limber pine
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vagrant niche
anybody saw that crazy Total Mayhem kill?
that was freaking nuts
i never seen something like that on a competition
balmy wolf
is there a clip of this "total mayhem" kill
stuck agate
that is actually so satisfying
tawny sigil
So new player sign in can not happen anymore. But can trades still happen?
torpid charm
nah
pearl stratus
Up in the air. I think the tank line will probably come from Houston as good as Space/Super are.
DPS will probably be the shocks line up, tbh.
pearl stratus
Danteh + Sinatraa + Babybay, since there's not a ton of US Widows.
torpid charm
what about supports
pearl stratus
Support... I dunno. The only non-OWL support I could see coming in would be Adam.
torpid charm
Rawkus I'm gonna assume ig
torpid charm
that's true, I just can't think of who else
pearl stratus
Actually. Silkthread over Babybay.
Just remembered him.
Not sure how out of practice people like Avast are.
But we've got Boink, Avast, Moth, Sleepy, Rawkus
torpid charm
okay, I was gonna say Silkthread but then I doubted myself.
feral solar
short vault
gaunt acorn
KYKY OUTDATED 
onyx shore
wut
feral solar
why are they keeping taimou
onyx shore
what happened to rascal
plucky inlet
Hastr0 has announced Reddit as the new Dallas Fuel head coach.
onyx shore
"“We had hoped that Rascal could add flexibility to our DPS lineup on the team this season. Unfortunately, his commitment to the team did not meet our expectations and his unwillingness to communicate with the team while playing in recent matches became a large distraction,” said Rufail. "
ah
supple prism
at least they are trying to sort out their issues i guess
median saddle
so Kyky said that Rascal tried too hard and forced a korean culture, but Dallas says that he was uncommitted?
this is interesting
red anvil
hjsdfosjnfdujsn
onyx shore
rascal probably wants to practice harder,which makes hastro thinks he's not a good team mate because he's trying too hard
median saddle
can we get Seagull back to DPS
onyx shore
if you look at their previous match,rascal played like crap
median saddle
or are they sticking with Taimou and AKM
supple prism
link?
hidden vault
Link
median saddle
hidden vault
SOMEOME CLIP IT
plucky inlet
He claims a problem they had with Rascal was that he "babyrages" over things he personally believes may not help the team or hinder improvement
silk linden
"Head coach Kyle Kyky Souder"
"and player Dong-Jun Rascal Kim"
plucky inlet
And then he claims that Rascal was PISSED off because OGE didnt even tryout and got to play
plucky inlet
It makes shit tons of sense
The best players in the league have to tryout
But some booster just gets in instantly?
Rascal probably felt insulted
onyx shore
godamnit xqc,that christmas tree still there,wtf
plucky inlet
You gotta remember Rascal is Korean and Koreans HATE boosters
median saddle
yeah I who wouldn't know
hidden vault
OGE might have been their best tank
median saddle
we had that week long Fissure rant
hidden vault
So they just throw him out
plucky inlet
And now some fucking booster walked in, didnt even tryout and gets to start?
Ofc rascal woild be pissed
supple prism
im gonna be honest here, its hard to listen to this guy try to make sentences
i mean he has a point but he needs to get to it
median saddle
yes
slim summit
who will be Fuel's genji player now
onyx shore
akm
slim summit
could it be Seagull?
onyx shore
or seagull
slim summit
imagine that
median saddle
Seagull prob
onyx shore
but i think,their lineup will be = oge,mickie,akm,effect,unkoe,harryhook
median saddle
if Fuel keeps losing who are we gonna blame now
onyx shore
hastro
slim summit
my money's on Taimou
onyx shore
i feel bad for taimou,cocco,chips
seagull can just leave the team and starts streaming again
slim summit
I feel bad for Effect
supple prism
he just keeps going
median saddle
Effect should jump ship once the season is over
but what team needs a top tracer
Houston?
onyx shore
is effect better than munchkin?
median saddle
put munchkin on Dallas and we'll have our answer
hidden vault
Sintraa to Houston?
silk linden
I think the Reddit think tank is wrong on the outrage about Rascal's release. If they released him they must have had good reasons, especially with how their statement is worded
slim summit
I remember there being rumors that Fissure and Rascal were sold because they were hurting the morale of the team back when it happened initially
silk linden
"OMG Dallas is shit why did they release rascal" because they know more about what's actually going on than you, random Reddit user
onyx shore
yeah,because DF's management is infallible,right?
silk linden
Ok let's just always assume the worst then
median saddle
yeah some Dallas decisions seem suspect
but I'll believe what they say until a player says otherwise
silk linden
Even when they just did the thing everyone wanted them to, release kyky
onyx shore
imo,it's fine for fans/redditors to have opinion on things,it's just normal
i dont think r/cow is crying over kyky's release
silk linden
I just don't understand the outrage and the jumping to conclusions
Such immaturity
Anyway, Seagull has got to be grinding Genji now
onyx shore
there's still AKM
median saddle
or AKM is put on Genji until Seagull gets back into his groove
silk linden
Unless they really really think Akm can widen his hero pull
But we're in a meta where the flex dps needs to be as flex as possible
Neither Taimou not akm really cut it
slim summit
Seagull and Taimou
median saddle
no effect?
onyx shore
two things we know about cocco is from cocco himself and kyky
cocco said it's not his decision to not play
kyky said they dont know how to use cocco anymore,we lose our way
silk linden
Custa has said "I mean, do you really think they wouldn't have tried Taimou on tank or bought OGE unless something was up with Cocco?"
He said they're "coming up with a way to work with him"
slim summit
Fuel is such a trainwreck
silk linden
Probably moving him to the coaching staff or something
slim summit
Surprised they didn't pick up ... what's his name, released from Valiant
silk linden
Envy
slim summit
yeah envy
silk linden
They had OGE already
slim summit
might as well become the garbage compactor for the league
slim summit
lol
silk linden
Every time Dallas does something people go bananas
slim summit
this is hardly bananas
moreover buying a player and releasing him, what, two months later? less?
is a little more than 'doing something'
silk linden
They did something good today, and people still think they're doing shit
Again, they must have had good reasons
Read how they worded the statement
silk linden
And think of all the times rascal missed matches
slim summit
things can be good and also bad
silk linden
The rascal thing was in the air
slim summit
it was probably a good decision to boot KyKy and probably a good decision to boot Rascal
silk linden
Akm calling him out, Kyky calling him out
slim summit
but they aren't out of the woods yet
silk linden
Sure
But they can't reasonably be
Now if they don't win the next match people will criticize them more
But that's not how things work
slim summit
By that metric they're in pretty big trouble
supple prism
@slim summit 2/21 is when they got rascal
slim summit
Remaining Fuel matches: Shock, Houston; Mayhem, Uprising, Fusion, NYXL
supple prism
so not even 2 months
slim summit
Frankly they'd be pretty lucky to win 3 of these matches
and it's highly unlikely they'll take a 4th
supple prism
lucky to win 2
onyx shore
can they even win against mayhem though
median saddle
depends on how much Zebbosai dies
supple prism
mayhem has beaten fuel before
slim summit
Mayhem did take down Fuel the last time they played; then Valiant shortly after
onyx shore
fusion,houston,and nyxl are just impossible
median saddle
Uprising too
hidden vault
Did xQc said anything about the custa trade?
supple prism
i dont think they can even beat boston, even shock can put up a fight
rocky anchor
heh
balmy wolf
he also talked about mistakes
he talked to him for a brief moment in the offices and mistakes said he never scrimmed
all he did in the office was comp
hidden vault
For boston??
balmy wolf
thats what he said
supple prism
who never scrimmed?
balmy wolf
apparently they never really looked at his skillset until the DK incident
slim summit
they probably didn't look at the skillset after either
they just sort of shrugged and said
"well kid..."
"you're on"
balmy wolf
yeah
he basically said that most of the benched players he talked to feel upset cuz they dont have that much time to practice
supple prism
management of these teams seem awful
balmy wolf
he also talked how some players who are benched aree already forgotten
as an example. he said Joemeister
supple prism
maybe OWL should pass a rule where all the players have to play at least some matches
supple prism
that counts?
balmy wolf
Every player that is able to play during off season are required to play
unless you are mendo or Philly, cuz visa stuff
now that I think of it, has joemeister played one map? 
but philly is different, they have plans for their players. its just based on map plans
according to beezy
kyky is on the stream now
hidden vault
kyky stream link?
spring lintel
Kyky and taimou came into xqc’s apartment while he is ranting about everything lmao
supple prism
gross
balmy wolf
what you mean?
spring lintel
He was ranting about everything but now he is not gonna
balmy wolf
KyKy isnt in a team anymore so he kinda has free reign other than NDAs 
supple prism
i guess to be fair, no one can pronounce mine
balmy wolf
what do you mean cheap gamer? 
balmy wolf
I know what I read
onyx shore
wait,where's kyky and timo? what i see now is xqc acting like winston
supple prism
because wheel of fortune
balmy wolf
they just left 
supple prism
and also i hate EA
fresh turret
I see what you did there
balmy wolf
also #tmobilemvp xqc 
supple prism
drinking what?
balmy wolf
so mister X or Hex?
alcohol
since he isnt in contract and he has a good irl stream set up now
fresh turret
idk which one of the 2 is shorter
balmy wolf
aand he spilled some shit on it already 
fresh turret
say here if he leaks anything important, can't watch clips rn
hidden vault
if someone who watches xQc could do a summary of whatever xQc has shared light
it would be PERFECT
cause boy this guy is hard to understand 😂
supple prism
so im not the only one
supple prism
nutty as in great?
fresh turret
uhh also
are the all-access pass stats usable by non-pass people for stage 3 or is it only interviews that are free for now?
OWL wasn't particularly clear about the all-access pass' free stuff period
supple prism
only the stats that they want to show you?
balmy wolf
all access peeps only have the channels rn
so the all access chat and the ama chat
the only stats they will give is the map stats and inidivsual player map stats
hazy arrow
Alright, my 2 cents
fresh turret
wait wait wati
hazy arrow
I wanted Kyky to be released but after this season. Right now this just seems like a rushed and stupid decision
fresh turret
do all-access bois see the stats realtime rn?
hazy arrow
Although management maybe knows this season is lost and so they want new coach meet players properly
So he knows who he wants to bring in the team
About Rascal - I was shocked coz he’s a top player, however if there really were problems with his attitude, then DF has no chance
Anyway, I hope we will now see Seagull as DPS again
supple prism
who owns DF?
hazy arrow
I doubt akm expands his hero pool so they will either release him or use him just for specific maps/mods
Same with Cocco
fresh turret
san diego cowabunga
fresh turret
why exactly
onyx shore
@supple prism this guy https://twitter.com/hastr0
Twitter
fresh turret
why do you suspect that these players in particulae are "done"?
hazy arrow
The team is co-owned by Team Envy and by Team Envy investor Hersh Interactive.
Timo and Chips?
Timo seems lost, after his prime
And he’s inconsistent which is a problem
Regarding Chips, I may be wrong but the fact how often he dies first is alarming
I mean, again, I believe he should be given chance till the end of S1
As for a long time he played Mercy
But if there’s no improvement after that, he will probably have to go
Nothing personal against him, this is just how things work
fresh turret
His Mercy isn't very good
imo
but yeah he died wayyyyy to much on offheals
they should've kept in Custa, Harryhook's Mercy is subpar and that forces unkoe to play Mercy when they want Lucio and stuff
hazy arrow
Can’t tell, haven’t seen him play Mercy too often
hazy arrow
Harry
hazy arrow
What stats
fresh turret
"do all-access bois see the stats realtime rn?" meaning like stats of players in a match while the match is ongoing
I still need answers
hazy arrow
"Did you have fun cheering for your favorite teams? well go fuck yourself give us more money."
"To allow super fans to dive deeper into the league they love, the All-Access Pass grants access to the Overwatch League Command Center: a second-screen match-day livestream, featuring alternate in-game camera angles, backstage cameras, player POVs, and real-time stats"
So i guess yes
Youre welcome
fresh turret
I wanna know if that's a part of the free all-access features for stage 3 or not
I don't need the description again thank you
fresh turret
idk what you're on about here, I don't rly like the all-access pass' thing of paywallling people from stuff either but I do want to know what features are free
fresh turret
nobody has any info on this
gaunt acorn
@fresh turret last i recall hearing, the stats aren't live
but are updated each round or something
fresh turret
awww
that's complete ass
if the casters can get live stats they probably have the tech to give us those as well
so is the OWL 'stats' tab for all-access passers?
red anvil
the stats are deffo live
fresh turret
can anyone confirm
red anvil
i can confirm that the stats your seeing there is live but a tad bit delayed
i measured it to be 21 seconds, but might been cut down now
fresh turret
No but uhh
The stats tab
OWL webpage?
That's the one
?
the one that has been grayed out?
hazy arrow
I just wonder how many people will pay for it
fresh turret
I'd guess it doesn't pass 100000
hazy arrow
To me it feels too pricey while you don’t get much in return
But that’s maybe just me
I mean, as an European who Blizzard doesn’t really care about, all this stuff is pretty useless for me unless I’m willing to give up on my sleep
fresh turret
Yeah I don't thinkn it's all that good in return, although live-ish stats could be nice if youu frequently were able to get a viewing party going
but yeah, European
that's a massive fucking problem
hazy arrow
And even then, I feel what we have currently is pretty much enough
I’m rather curious when they want to improve their website
That potential the site has
fresh turret
yeah
if the grayed out stats page turns out to just be a paywall I'll be mad
I still think they should make it spectateable in OW itself so you could pick your perspectives
IK it would probably forcefully cause some/ a lot of lag to have that many spectators, so they should have replays of matches on the owl tab imo
and you could watch it like if you were spectating
hazy arrow
What I would be willing to pay for is access to screen of every single player
That would be awesome
hazy arrow
It would be awesome for improving in the game
fresh turret
You don't get to see firsthand what Orisa/Mercy/Lucio players do most of the time and you can't learn very well off just watching healthbars and topdown views
and it's even shittier because we KNOW they are recording each player's POV for all matches
hazy arrow
Also you can watch this players on their on streams, but watch while on their team is a completely different experience
fresh turret
yeah and in OWL the players'll almost no doubt be at their best
and show the best their character can do
much less distractions and chances to tilt while they're on stage
I guess actually it'd be chances for them to GET tilted
torpid charm
wow I just woke up to the best news ever, Kyky is finally gone
but now I'm sad because Rascal is gone too
rapid bobcat
fresh turret
aahhh okay then
gusty cipher
after a short break and the dreamkazper arc owl is finally back to its main storyline
rascal out seagull in?
hidden vault
south saddle
wow owl drama is hotter than my neighbours gossip
hidden osprey
Well that's certainly some crazy news to wake up to
DF seems like a rolling car crash holy shit
warm quartz
Hmm who called this because of the drama with akm and kyky not too long ago
Money on it, this is Kyky's revenge.
torpid charm
I knew it was coming but I was wondering how long it would be until it actually happened
fresh turret
I feel badd for fuel fans
warm quartz
I went houston after the drama started
hidden osprey
The fact that they threw Rascal under the bus after the roster had been locked is a dick move
Even more ridiculous is how they never even tried him out
fresh turret
Nah but I feel bad specifically because my 1 friend who is good at the game was super pumped for fuel
Now tbh I could see fuel getting shut down
vagrant niche
fresh turret
although that won't happen because blizzard and PR
fresh turret
there has been for a while
tawdry dew
im having a little trouble grasping it all tbh, its kind of all over the place
short sapphire
@warm quartz I honestly feel like Shengai as a team is much more attractive than fuel lmao
warm quartz
They have cute beans
torpid charm
very cute beans
warm quartz
Underdogs, cute beans, and everyone wants to see them win. If you don’t want to see Shanghai win, you have no heart
lament dune
I think Shanghai will be much better when they figure out their comms.
torpid charm
yes, they show signs of life every now and then. much more often lately
Dragons Day at the Blizzard Arena seemed fun af
warm quartz
Mhm
torpid charm
I agree
tawdry dew
once they have their synergy down they will definitely win
warm quartz
I just wanna hug geguri. She seems so sweet
Even when she had a crushing defeat she smiled and was still bowing when shaking hands
That’s what sealed me as a Geguri fan, not her being female, not her being the first female. Her sportsmanship and skill
hidden osprey
@vagrant niche Rascal wanted to try hard and bring more of a Korean attitude to the team
But the coaches said otherwise, he also wanted a say in compositions but Fuel were like nop
vagrant niche
wasn't that what Effect wanted as well? and what is wrong with it?
hidden osprey
Yup, effect wanted it too
tawdry dew
everyone should have a fair input
hidden osprey
Exctly, and from what xqc said in his stream Fuel didn't give a shit about players opinions
tawdry dew
ive heard people talking about that teams shit management for a while now
balmy wolf
Fuel is officially fucked.
tawdry dew
only a matter of time really
vagrant niche
at this point
i want the Fuel to reform under some new brand
i'm not liking this
balmy wolf
I feel kinda bad for Rascal tbh. First London didn't play him, then Fuel didn't play him.
ruby pendant
Will Rascal still play in Overwatch League?
balmy wolf
hEy GuYs LeTs PuT aKm On GeNjI
ruby pendant
Such a shame then
balmy wolf
They couldn't have thrown Rascal under the bus any harder.
hidden osprey
Let's not forget seagull
vagrant niche
if he's underperforming, you look for the root of the problem, and invest on him
hidden osprey
He always get shafted :/
balmy wolf
"We had hoped that Rascal could add flexibility to our DPS lineup on the team this season. Unfortunately, his commitment to the team did not meet our expectations and his unwillingness to communicate with the team while playing in recent matches became a large distraction,”
If that isn't them shafting Rascal, I don't know what is.
vagrant niche
@balmy wolf where you got that quote?
hidden osprey
It's in the press release
vagrant niche
twitter?
hidden osprey
On the DF website
balmy wolf
It's because they kept on putting akm into non-soldier situations. His Widow is good too, but other than that, like xQc said, he's a Soldier bot.
hidden osprey
Management as always
balmy wolf
If they shaft Seagull I'm officially done with Fuel.
I mean harder than they already have.
hidden osprey
Kyky was a problem, but anyone that saw the bigger picture knew that management is the core issue
He's already been shafted with such little play time
torpid charm
Rascal was literally like "lemme help y'all get this shit together" and Kyky was like "lol no" so then Rascal was like "ard watch this" then brought the attitude and stopped showing out. he wanted to go
hidden osprey
And yet when he plays, he looks great
balmy wolf
No respect for Seagull whatsoever.