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lament dune
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It’s one per map iirc and reruns don’t count

paper crag
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So shd vs sfs tonight

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How likely is shd’s victory?

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Think it’s over 5%?

silk linden
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Idk how to translate my thoughts into percentages

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but like, very low

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your 5% means that if they played 20 times, SHD would win once

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idk

pearl stratus
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Very very low.

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Danteh can just play Sombra and abuse their bad communication.

paper crag
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Oh true veex lol

vagrant niche
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I think shock should win

limber pine
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I said before that it's highly unlikely SHD will go 0-40

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and I still believe that

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I'm just not sure who'd they get it from

supple prism
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yea, even mayhem is looking unlikely now to get a win from

pearl stratus
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I think they'll have the potential to get it from anyone.

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However its, for all intents and purposes, a two week old team.

limber pine
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also

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what's with all the illness this week

pearl stratus
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For east coast its because the cold broke.

deft valley
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they said that about the browns this year too lul

pearl stratus
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And a lot of people get sick when the temperature likes to fluctuate from freezing/not freezing and stuff starts to grow again.

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Starts retriggering allergies, etc.

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Oh god. Jeff isn't happy with Sombra and Doomfist still.

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Fuck.

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Welcome to cross language comms with tonal pronunciation.

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Also the pronunciation of the abbreviation for Tracers name in Chinese can get tonally crossed with the chinese phrase for 'get back'

silk linden
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just speak english you dickheads

pearl stratus
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So Geguri warning about a Tracer can accidently tell her team to get back.

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Tonal pronunciation is the worst. I hate it in english too, lol

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Read rhymes with lead, but read doesn't rhyme with lead.

silk linden
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that's a different thing completely

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it's not tonal pronounciation

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tonal pronounciation in english is "I didn't say she stole my money" having 7 different meanings depending which word you stress

pearl stratus
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I suppose, they're pretty opposite for languages it was just the best example I could think of.

silk linden
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it was a wrong one

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those words are straight up pronounced differently

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they're just written the same

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but writing isn't a concern here

rain pewter
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written the same?

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we talking about chinese here or english?

silk linden
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anyway, english general lack of formality makes it great for communication

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like, Korean airline pilots even use it to talk to each other

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to avoid honorifics and shit

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it's an efficient language

pearl stratus
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It's an efficient one for simple calls, I don't think it works for a full strategy session as a second/third language.

silk linden
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sure, but you have time to clarify things in that setting

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in game you gotta be quick and efficient

pearl stratus
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I think for Shanghai they're also thinking a 4v6 of learning.

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All 6 would need to focus on english, whereas only 4 need to focus on chinese.

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I don't think that's inherently the right plan.

rain pewter
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i personally have trouble identifying what words they're speaking sometimes

pearl stratus
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Just what they're probably thinking.

silk linden
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yeah but, they're fucked this season, might as well think long term

rain pewter
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talking about things like rascal saying barrage as brush and all that

pearl stratus
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Long term is just Bing decides to buy NYXL.

rain pewter
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i don't know if they're going to understand each other and all that if they're not pronouncing words correctly and they're not having a good command of the language at all

pearl stratus
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Wait. Ding. Not Bing.

silk linden
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yeah but, those players are still gonna be pro

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so they might as well learn english for whichever team they end up in

hidden vault
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Shd should have stuck with Chinese players

pearl stratus
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There weren't ones of the caliber to bring up, to be honest.

silk linden
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at this point, there are what, more koreans in non full korean teams than otherwise?

hidden vault
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The chinese players are enough to challenge the koreans

rain pewter
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wasn't there talk about how SHD wasn't entirely made up of the best players and all that?

silk linden
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maybe not, but it's getting up there

pearl stratus
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No. The chinese players WERE enough to challenge the Koreans.

rain pewter
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and that there's a ton of good chinese players back at home?

pearl stratus
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But a good chunk of the old MY roster (the only one that wasn't garbage)

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Is underage.

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I think they'll move one or both of the tanks up from CC eventually though.

hidden vault
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CC?

pearl stratus
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Their contenders team.

rain pewter
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?

hidden vault
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Shanghai has a contenders team?

pearl stratus
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Yeah, they're Shanghai's contender team.

rain pewter
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oh hey, they do share tabs

pearl stratus
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Yeah, there's only two teams in the league who don't have contenders teams.

hidden vault
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Valiant

rain pewter
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and dallas?

pearl stratus
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Yep.

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LGD is currently the only decent looking Contenders team (Team CC picked up the two MY tanks too late to be useful)

rain pewter
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i was about to ask about LF Zenith before i found out it's a korean team in OWC china

silk linden
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LAValiant - DallasFuel
SFShock - ShanghaiDragons
SeoulDynasty - LAGladiators
any predictions for the night?

hidden vault
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Creed should have actually played for SHD instend of being an assistant coach

rain pewter
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valiant has a good shot of going 16-0

silk linden
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I say 4-0, 4-0, 1-3

hidden vault
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U4 might as well bring in the full LGD team

rain pewter
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hard to see with SHD and SFS

pearl stratus
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Valiant, Shock, ... 50/50.

rain pewter
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i'd lean SFS still but

pearl stratus
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Nah Shock will destroy Shanghai.

rain pewter
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who knows, SHD might've bucked up

pearl stratus
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Just run Danteh on Sombra

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Shanghai can't communicate well enough to counter her.

hidden vault
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Shock will win shangai

pearl stratus
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That's what I'd do at least.

hidden vault
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They should have dropped freefeel and Altering to get 2 Korean supports tbh

pearl stratus
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... The fuck.

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You literally just said they should have stuck with all chinese people.

hidden vault
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That's the 1st choice

rain pewter
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either speak all chinese, or all korean eh?

hidden vault
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Yes Harrason got it

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If they can't go full chinese go full Korean

pearl stratus
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They'd probably sell the team if they went full Korean.

torpid charm
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I'm feeling LAValiant, SFShock but hoping for ShanghaiDragons, and LAGladiators

pearl stratus
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No point in losing your home fan base.

rain pewter
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yeah

hidden vault
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6-6 is half

pearl stratus
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And since Ding could literally buy everyone in the league if he wanted to.

rain pewter
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chinese owner and all that

pearl stratus
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He calls the shots.

rain pewter
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they're also pretty damn patriotic too

hidden vault
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They dropped fans the moment they got Koreans

pearl stratus
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Actually they didn't.

silk linden
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they dropped fans way before

pearl stratus
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But you made a good attempt.

hidden vault
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So what's having another 2 more

silk linden
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when they went 0-20

pearl stratus
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They dropped fans when they kept Undead around for a bit more than when they got Koreans.

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The response to the Koreans was mostly positive.

hidden vault
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Hmm that's interesting

rain pewter
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the chinese OW community knows about undad a lot earlier?

pearl stratus
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Yeah, its amazing what happens when you actually look up what you're talking about.

silk linden
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yeah the fans would rather have a winning team with some koreans than a total disaster

pearl stratus
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@rain pewter A bit yeah. Apparently drama can be a very public thing in China with the younger generation.

hidden vault
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Lmao then it further reinstates my point of have 2 more korean supports then

pearl stratus
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Makes no god damn sense to me.

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They wouldn't be okay with a full korean team.

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They'll be running 3:3.

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Which strikes a good balance.

hidden vault
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It's half koreans actually 6:6

pearl stratus
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And the 6 benched Chinese means no chinese.

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Like you can say Cocco is in the OWL right now.

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But we all know he isn't.

hidden vault
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Right now they are running 4:6

pearl stratus
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Actually Diya is back.

hidden vault
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Isn't make it better

rain pewter
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i think the way they feel about having a full korean team representing them is similar to the people who cry about london and NYXL fielding all koreans

pearl stratus
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So they've been running 3:3.

rain pewter
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but of course they're different in nature

pearl stratus
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Fearless Geguri Ado Diya Two Supports.

hidden vault
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It would be better if they have 1 each for supports dps and tanks

pearl stratus
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Diya didn't play like garbage for being gone for three weeks, that was surprising.

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Actually I think it'd be worse if it was 3:3 with one of each role Korean/Chinese.

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Every dive would be awful.

nova pelican
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do they have both Chinese and Korean coaches

pearl stratus
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Yeah

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They're honestly set up to be successful, there's a few weaknesses left (mostly in what supports they play, imo) but beyond communication they've got a talented roster.

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But the success won't be quick because its not something thats easily fixable.

nova pelican
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yeah diya looks to be like a good player and ado pretty sick on genji

pearl stratus
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Diya when he's in tune is pretty good, I remember him putting Fleta down one game as Widow.

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But he gave that up for Undead since Undead could really only play McCree/Widow.

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So he needs to get back into it.

nova pelican
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yeah i hope they put up a fight against shock this time

pearl stratus
nova pelican
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did they ever do daemin on widow and diya on tracer yet

pearl stratus
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No, and they probably won't any time soon.

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Daemin has been too lackluster, and Ado has been mostly consistent (minus a few whiffed blades)

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But whiffed Blades are becoming more and more common lately.

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As the teams all adjust and manage.

nova pelican
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mistakes whiffed a few yesterday but it didn't end up mattering in the long run

pearl stratus
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Profit did too though.

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Relatively unpopular thing but the DPS in OWL don't matter /as/ much right now.

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They get the flashy plays and they're fun to watch.

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But strong tank/support lines are what grind out so much of these engagements.

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That's obviously not always, Carpe going insane on a Widowmaker can turn a fight just as easily. But only if the tanks buy him the space for it

nova pelican
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at first I felt like fusion were only doing good because carpe on widow was too insane

pearl stratus
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Fusion does well because of the tempo the entire team sets.

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Fusion does an amazing job of getting the game to be played at their speed, not their opponents.

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It's why missing Eqo is noticeable, because Snillo is an insane Tracer and can work up to the speed of Eqo but Eqo + Carpe do it more naturally (imo)

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Shadowburn just... doesn't.

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Shadowburn doesn't play at that aggressive tempo.

nova pelican
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they put shadowburn on junkrat in junkertown yesterday, didn't do much at all

pearl stratus
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I don't think they thought he would.

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I felt like they were trying to emulate Bostons success against Houston.

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By running a mirror comp.

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But they didn't execute it nearly as well as Boston.

balmy wolf
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y is shanghai so bad

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i regret getting the skin 4 them

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they havent wn a single game

summer tangle
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Shanghai has bad communication

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remember how long it took for Boston to get good?

balmy wolf
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yah

summer tangle
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over time they will improve

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like Boston

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But they don't have as skilled players

balmy wolf
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but idt shanghai is getting there anytime soon

summer tangle
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no

balmy wolf
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i check the scores every now and then and i just feel pure disappointmen

summer tangle
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lol

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I'm never disappointed by valiant

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don't regret getting skins for them

balmy wolf
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i like seoul because of their skins and their spotify playlist

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i gave up on shanghai

summer tangle
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Spotify?

balmy wolf
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they have playlist

summer tangle
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why

balmy wolf
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idk lmao😂

jagged bolt
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yooo everybody listen to mee

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dallas fuel is back

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LEETS GOOO DALLAS

indigo barn
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Boston winnning made up for Houston’s loss for me

limber pine
nova pelican
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let's go dragons

pearl stratus
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Won't help.

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Danteh saying he was sick might have helped, but not Super.

limber pine
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yup

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first win today boys

cunning cove
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Guya

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How do i get overwatch on pc

silk linden
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inb4 IDDQD comes in and decimates everyone

cunning cove
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Im a former ps4 player

silk linden
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buy it on overwatch dot com

cunning cove
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Ok

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Thanks

indigo barn
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Babybays back

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Sexiest man in overwatch league

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After snillo

silk linden
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you buy it there, then download the battle.net client and launch it from there

cunning cove
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Oh

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Thanks

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Does battlenet cause money

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Cost*

silk linden
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no the launcher is free

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it's just the app that lets you play blizzard games

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the game is 40$ but it's often on sale at 50% if you feel like waiting

jagged bolt
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battle net is for free

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dude why isnt iddqd playin

pearl stratus
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Man Philly players never get sick.

silk linden
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because his hero pool is too similar to babybay

pearl stratus
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Just racist.

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They should get a real chef.

silk linden
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who's better than him

pearl stratus
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So the kids get vitamins and real food.

jagged bolt
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iddqd is better than babybay i would say

pearl stratus
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he's not.

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And his hero pool is worse.

nova pelican
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once again the dragons are propped up for victory

silk linden
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evidently he isn't

pearl stratus
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This isn't contenders anymore, having a small hero pool is basically being bronze.

silk linden
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yeah

jagged bolt
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but still he is sick as widow an mccree

pearl stratus
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Thats two.

silk linden
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dps have it hard these days

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can't one trick

pearl stratus
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Two is about three too little.

jagged bolt
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found a match gotta go

pearl stratus
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Rip Shadowburn.

silk linden
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tanks can get away with having a pool of 3, supports with with 4 or 3. DPS need to play like 6

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the non tracers at least

pearl stratus
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Supports can get away with a pool of 1 technically.

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If you're the Zen.

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But most Zens also play Ana/Moira.

silk linden
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basically you have to be able to play either tracer or genji really well

pearl stratus
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And even then

silk linden
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can't be bad on both

pearl stratus
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Only Bunny is the only Tracer.

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SBB, easily the best Tracer in the league, puts out Widow and McCree quite a bit.

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Carpe, thanks to Snillo, gets to play a ton more Widow+McCree.

silk linden
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who dis

pearl stratus
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He looks like an orphan. Whats with the said face Izayaki.

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He's a foxes support.

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He's pretty decent, overall.

silk linden
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KR right

pearl stratus
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Yeah.

silk linden
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contenders really is just there to be raided

pearl stratus
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You'd know him as Need.

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I think Izayaki is his new name,

silk linden
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asian players having no concept of consistent branding

cunning cove
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Why are you guys so mean to players xd

pearl stratus
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I mean. Unless you're Undead.

silk linden
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"hey Ryu, did you come up with a cool esport name yet"
"yeah, Ryujehong"
"..."

pearl stratus
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Then you change your name to HyPn0s since the girls don't complain if they're asleep.

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I mean...

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Coolmatt69.

silk linden
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that's a great name what do you mean

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Jake

pearl stratus
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"Jake, whats your name?""

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"JAKE!"

silk linden
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Sinatra

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a

pearl stratus
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"Birdring, where'd you get your name?" "I like Seagull. He is a bird. And I like circles."

silk linden
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Jonak. No, wait... JJONAK

pearl stratus
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Or his alt.\

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GGonak.

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Striker.

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Strikers alt? Strikerfan.

silk linden
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I like how the western players have all sorts of weird names, while the asians have like, just random english words

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Gesture

pearl stratus
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PROFIT

silk linden
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Fissure

pearl stratus
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Fissure at least makes sense if he was like.

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A Rein main.

silk linden
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fucking Gesture

pearl stratus
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Mistakes.

nova pelican
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idk the koreans come up with pretty cool sounding handles

pearl stratus
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My favorite is still just..

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Boink.

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That's a great name.

silk linden
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yep

nova pelican
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rascal is a good one

pearl stratus
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I made a second battlenet so I could have a one trick alt for practice bullshit.

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And I hit random a few times for the name.

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And now I'm BouncingBear.

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Which means I need to go Pro.

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Just for Uber and Mr.X to be continually saying BouncingBear.

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During a match.

silk linden
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we talk so much about making esports as legit as real sports, but like, we have pro players calling themselves Coolmatt and Awesomeguy

pearl stratus
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I mean...

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Have you seen the actual names for some Football players?

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Awesomeguy is a step up.

silk linden
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the brazilians yeah

pearl stratus
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No, like American football.

silk linden
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what's that

jagged bolt
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valiant isnt the same team now

pearl stratus
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There's a player named "Taco Charlton"

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Plays college in Michigan.

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CB from Miami? Corn Elder.

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CORN. ELDER.

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I'd rather be Awesomeguy.

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Juju Schmidt-schuster.

silk linden
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I wonder which OWL players regret their nicknames

pearl stratus
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Coolmatt69 probably. Not for the Coolmatt part.

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Just the 69.

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That strikes me as that handle you made when you were 12.

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And just don't get rid of.

silk linden
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he still has the 69

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so, no regrets there

pearl stratus
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Its his Jersey number, they did it for anyone with numbers in the name.

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Oh wait last one.

silk linden
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yeah but he could have gone with any other number then

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he just embraces it

pearl stratus
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There's a Jake Butt who plays for the Broncos.

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Or wait. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix who plays for the packers.

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Yeah no. Awesomeguy or Coolmatt is so much better.

silk linden
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Off the top of my head I know the real names of like 3 OWL players

pearl stratus
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Jake?

silk linden
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Brandon Larned, Matt Dias and Ryu Jehong

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Idk jake's last name

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never bothered to learn

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I only know the old TF2 stars

pearl stratus
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Lyon.

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Jake Lyon.

silk linden
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and well ryu is easy

pearl stratus
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I only remember it because its actually a pretty good name overall.

silk linden
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yeah, he earned his right to keep his name

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Jake as a name works well as a handle

pearl stratus
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When I worked retail back in the day I helped someone named Magnus Gyllensweardth.

silk linden
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like ryujehong

pearl stratus
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Which is still the best name in the world.

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Because it literally translates to "The Great Gold Sword"

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And like.. that's bad ass.

silk linden
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by last name translates to like, baker

pearl stratus
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Also remember when Seoul randomly twittered out the players blood types? Just remembered that looking at his Liquipedia page.

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Miro is O, he just gives.

silk linden
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that's an asian thing I guess

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I know JPN people are obsessed with those

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they treat them like star signs or something

pearl stratus
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RHJ "Favorite hero: Genji"

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Wtf Ryu.

silk linden
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they're often listed for fictional characters too

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"you're so emotional, a total B positive"

pearl stratus
silk linden
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p weird since at least zodiac signs are evenly distributed

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blood type isn't

pearl stratus
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Apparently the study of blood type and personality traits dates back to Aristotle and Hippocrates.

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Still weird.

silk linden
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anyway

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what's up with players having names that are pronounced differently from how they're written

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the hubris

slim summit
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evenly distributed personality types don't fit the young adult dystopian sci-fi novel trope

silk linden
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we gotta learn spelling AND pronounciation of your weird made up name

slim summit
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we need everyone to fall into a few categories and the main character to be AB-

pearl stratus
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FCTFCTN.

silk linden
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Cwoosh

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and also everyone with a J in their name

slim summit
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the D is silent

silk linden
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since Js are very different in both spanish and germanic/nordic langauges

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Chipshajen, janus

slim summit
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I always thought that was kind of a funny dichotomy in esports

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because these people pick ridiculous names that I'm sure many of them don't really necessarily want to hang on to

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but they're stuck with them for branding purposes

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because they made them 10+ years ago and got good then

silk linden
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I mean many asian players just change them on a whim

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I mean what's worse, a name you picked for yourself at 10, or one you didn't pick at all

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Arturo Vidal from FC Bayern uses his mothers last name because he fell out with his father

slim summit
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that is a good point

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who has the worst names in OWL

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coolmatt69 is pretty rough but shortening it to coolmatt and it isn't that bad

silk linden
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he owns it

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makes it legit

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Mendokusaii is pretty unabashedly weeby

slim summit
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lol

silk linden
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Fleta sounds so weird

slim summit
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You know, I think I've changed my mind

pearl stratus
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Libero.

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"I liked a volleyball Anime."

slim summit
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and now I think I like the gamertag setup

silk linden
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Libero is honestly one fo the best ones

slim summit
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they have so much personality

pearl stratus
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He literally watched the anime that my avatar is from.

silk linden
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it means "free" in Italian

pearl stratus
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And picked one of the positions.

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Lol no.

slim summit
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I really like TviQ

pearl stratus
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He got it from the anime, it was in his video 😛

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Libero just happened to work out.

silk linden
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yeah I know, but that's where the role name comes from

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in football too, a "Libero" is a player free to cover many parts of the pitch

pearl stratus
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Logixx. Because two x's make it sound more dangerous.

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He should rebrand to two.

slim summit
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I don't really know about the casters having gamertags though

pearl stratus
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I think it makes sense for continuity.

silk linden
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the casters are old figures

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they've been in it for very long

slim summit
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which OWL player will be the first to use the xX_Format_Xx

visual venture
pearl stratus
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It's also good continuity for the game - you don't want to be throwing out all these random weird names.

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Cool a stream no one cares about.

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Thanks.

slim summit
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lol

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I love the In-N-Out memes

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I adore Profit

silk linden
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they've been drawn out too much by now

slim summit
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I don't want it to ever stop

silk linden
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I feel like the meme is really close to dead

slim summit
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the more dead it is, the better

pearl stratus
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I mean, I'm down with Susie Kim taking basically a picture of her chest and showing off her new jersey.

slim summit
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The hoodies are pretty cool

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not sure if I could pull one off

silk linden
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depends on how much you care

pearl stratus
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Oh.

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Logix is having a depression episode.

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Thats why he didn't play.

silk linden
#

poor lad

pearl stratus
#

Eh not super surprising having uprooted and moved. I don't blame any of the kids for having off weeks.

cerulean plume
#

Sayaplayer has been playing pretty well

grizzled trout
#

Predicitons?

cerulean plume
#

So I guess there's that

torpid charm
#

poor Logix :~(

pearl stratus
#

Saya just needs to be a bit more in sync I think.

#

Like he pulled off that crazy Widow 3K when his whole team was like a year behind him on the map.

#

So it didn't even matter.

torpid charm
#

true, time will fix that for sure

pearl stratus
#

Yeah, either way I almost feel bad for the people entertaining at this point.

#

The difference between OWL and Contenders is gigantic.

#

They got catching up to do.

torpid charm
#

I miss out on the gamer tag discussion, am sad.

#

I remember when I first heard about FCTFCNT and I was extremely confused

jagged bolt
#

soo who is best in owl

pearl stratus
#

Eh.

torpid charm
#

the best what

pearl stratus
#

Mad Effect maybe breaks top 5.

grizzled trout
#

...

pearl stratus
#

Regular Effect struggles to be top 10.

#

Because his team can't support him properly.

#

He can't.

#

So it doesn't matter what he wants.

slim summit
#

xQc is the best player in the league

pearl stratus
#

Deadlines over.

torpid charm
#

I'm sure anyone would wanna leave Dallas

#

xQc #1 player in the whole league no matter what position

grizzled trout
#

is fissure still sick?

torpid charm
#

Dallas is ass lmao

slim summit
#

shanghai isnt bad the other teams is just better

grizzled trout
#

im not bad at overwatch sbb is just better

#

lol

slim summit
#

lol

jagged bolt
#

would*

torpid charm
grizzled trout
#

so zunba and fissure probally won't be playing today, interesting

silk linden
#

the old retarded Dynasty swaps, love it

cerulean plume
grizzled trout
#

no veex

#

zunba wrist injury

silk linden
#

oh right

torpid charm
#

poor Zunba :~(

humble moth
#

Houston lost again it seems

#

sigh

supple prism
#

hmm?

jagged bolt
#

waii did uprising win agants nyxl

vital saddle
#

yes

jagged bolt
#

wow

vital saddle
#

yup big upset

#

with the mistakestrain

jagged bolt
#

fuck dreamkazper

vital saddle
#

mhm

jagged bolt
#

thats why they won

silk linden
#

not really, but whatevs

torpid charm
#

time to bang out this essay before I lose my focus to OWL

#

I wonder how many tokens I've gotten

silk linden
#

more than me

#

feelsItalyMan

jagged bolt
#

i live in swe so the matches is on the nights thats a feelsbadman

silk linden
#

yeah that too. But at least you can leave the stream on and get tokens

jagged bolt
#

yah

#

but im gonna watch the dallas la valiant match LETS GOO DALLAS

torpid charm
#

FeelsUSAMan except my stupid ass keeps forgetting to log into Battle Net so I'm sure I've missed a lot of tokens

vital saddle
#

i dont think dallas winning a stage anytime soon

torpid charm
#

Val finna catch that W, but I'm sure Dallas will try to put up a good fight

silk linden
#

just autolog

vital saddle
#

lol tru

torpid charm
#

my shit 🅱roken

#

I remembered last night and thank goodness I fell asleep while watching the game so I didn't miss out on tokens

hazy arrow
supple prism
#

no

#

Boston Retribution!

silk linden
#

boston archives

jagged bolt
brisk roost
#

@torpid charm Heya good game from last night xD!

torpid charm
#

I was waiting for you to pop up, lol. good game indeed! I literally passed out as soon as Houston took the point on Well, so like I mis half of the game zaryalol

brisk roost
#

I didn't get to see the rest of the game since I needed to go to sleep

#

So I just woke up and check the scores and oh Philly won again xD!

torpid charm
#

it's lit PhiliFusion

brisk roost
#

Noice

slim summit
#

I thought Philly was going to be beaten in a totally disappointing way

#

I don't like the current situation with Valiant and Uprising on top

#

I wanna see our orange boys pdomjnate again

brisk roost
#

I like Valiant being on the top right now

#

I can smell them defeating the Glads eventually

slim summit
#

Glads hasn't looked so hot this stage

#

I don't know what they changed but the impeccable chemistry & precision of stage 2 is lost

torpid charm
#

I had my doubts too but they did it

#

I'm wondering what happened too

#

maybe they're in a funk after missing stage 2 playoffs

slim summit
#

Guess we'll find out tonight. They've got another chance to prove themselves a top 3 team

#

by destroying Seoul and further damaging their chances at ever winning anything

warped axle
#

Boston Uprising

#

Boston Retribution

#

Boston Archives

#

Boston Anniversery

#

Boston Summer Games

brisk roost
#

Hahaha

warped axle
#

Boston Chinese New Year

silk linden
#

k

vagrant niche
#

yo bois

#

who's hyped?

#

it's going to start soon

brisk roost
#

Me

torpid charm
#

LAValiant ftw

brisk roost
#

^^^

#

I like Valiant after Outlaws

hazy arrow
balmy wolf
#

woah
there's a new feature thing now

deft valley
#

?

balmy wolf
#

it shows the schedule and teams in the stream

deft valley
#

oh if you click on the notification? yea it's nice

ruby pendant
#

Nice

vagrant niche
#

anybody knows a clip

#

of jhong sleeping effect the other day?

nova pelican
#

let's go fuel

vagrant niche
#

BURN BLUE DallasFuel

silk linden
#

omg why don't they fucking burn the "let [hero] [do thing]" signs at the entrance

#

they fucking suck

nova pelican
vagrant niche
#

yeee boiiiii

nova pelican
#

idk they're kinda funny sometimes

vagrant niche
#

ye they funny

deft valley
#

@silk linden because marketing

silk linden
#

"let symmetra wall ride" what's funny about that

deft valley
#

did you see Give Zen Lore yesterday?

vagrant niche
#

yes i sw that

#

saw

silk linden
#

now give zen lore is funny

#

"let zen walk" super funny

#

"let symmetra wall ride" go fucking home kid

deft valley
#

let zen walk was one of the first ones when it wasn't outplayed yet

rustic perch
#

95% of those signs are just fucking tryhards

hollow current
#

!tmobilemvp xQc

balmy wolf
#

cure symmetra's autism

tawny sigil
#

!tmobile xqc

brisk roost
#

Lmao

#

xQc is playing Welcome To The Game II

deft valley
#

"Let lucio tank" ahahauhauhauhauhauhauha

#

lmao

hollow current
#

HE KNOWS

deft valley
#

that xqc shoutout

silk linden
#

not even one westerner

#

bullshit

#

Linkzr > Fleta

vagrant niche
#

hell no, FLETA IS META

deft valley
#

don't underestimate korean fangirls

rustic perch
#

i just waited for the dreamkazper mentions in twitch chat

hollow current
#

TeenGrazper is poggers

balmy wolf
#

I'm still Dream's fan. I'd be a 14 y/o girl for him

silk linden
#

I didn't watch the matches yesterday, did they even mention the kazper thing at all

deft valley
#

not directly

hollow current
#

they did

#

they just say he got released

silk linden
#

like imagine not being in the know

#

you tune in and see the best western dps being released

#

like what

rustic perch
#

i think they are told to not talk about what happened

vagrant niche
#

they talked a lot about him yesterday

silk linden
#

I'm sure they are

nova pelican
#

coosta

vagrant niche
#

just didn't said why he got released

silk linden
#

I just find it funny from a casual's perspective

hollow current
#

i mean they can't just say "yeah turns out dream was a pedo so he got banned"

deft valley
#

the best western dps
Mistakes wasn't released KaplanThink

winter sage
#

Kazper was a real true weeb

rustic perch
#

they also didn't talk about what xqc did for his suspensions

#

or other players that got suspended

nova pelican
#

last chance for kariv

rustic perch
#

it just got mentioned and nothing else

solar trout
#

I lovee Linkzr, but Fissure is the OWLMVP.

deft valley
#

a casual would likely not know individual players' names though

rustic perch
#

wait who's space

nova pelican
#

him

silk linden
#

new val off tank

#

good dude

hollow current
#

18 yo off tank

deft valley
#

damn

hollow current
#

hit rank 1 on ladder a bit ago

deft valley
#

custa is dreamy

rustic perch
#

yea ik but i never heard about him

silk linden
#

yeah was with them but underage

rustic perch
#

usually i at least heard the name somewhere

#

but space tells me nothing

silk linden
#

he was one of the underage wonderkids

#

space, snillo, super, sinatraa

rustic perch
#

(is that a english phrase as well, my german might come through there)

hollow current
#

i mean i didnt know NY had anamo or w/e before he played for the first time yesterday

silk linden
#

the s team

deft valley
#

sinatraa
well that worked out

hollow current
#

sinatraa LUL

nova pelican
#

burn blue

hollow current
#

custa is a double agent

rustic perch
#

val vs dallas could actually be pretty interesting

hollow current
#

leaks all valiants strats to fuel

#

ez win

balmy wolf
#

Sinatraa is the 2nd best tracer in the league

hollow current
#

LUL

balmy wolf
#

only jake tops him

deft valley
#

as if fuel would win even with the strats

nova pelican
#

no

silk linden
#

as if knowing the enemy strats would help Dallas

#

they just wing it

deft valley
#

@silk linden stop psychically copying me

silk linden
#

my keyboard is so shit it takes me time to type

rustic perch
#

who's copying who

deft valley
#

okay no

solar trout
#

Rascal, unkoe, and OGE taking leadership? what

rustic perch
#

okay 😦

deft valley
#

lmao i'm just memeing
love it that we both posted it

nova pelican
#

i wanna see more goofy entrances

paper crag
#

oooh shit boi the support switch teams

rustic perch
#

yea true, where are those entrances

#

i fucking BET the teams got told they shouldnt do that anymore

rapid bobcat
#

Custa still has no number on his shirt

deft valley
#

is valiant the second team to have ads on their jerseys after the Dallas Jackingtheboxes

silk linden
#

goofy entrance = lose

rapid bobcat
#

Seriously

rustic perch
#

i'm sure blizzard was annoyed that the OWL kinda turned into a meme

hollow current
#

they need to hire someone to come up with entrances

nova pelican
#

nothing will top mayhems team naruto run onto stage

deft valley
#

or was there someone else

silk linden
#

see old mayhem, Snillo Rocky

solar trout
#

CHAIR

rustic perch
hollow current
#

LUL

paper crag
#

jfc how long does it take for them to get actual jerseys?

deft valley
#

399?

rapid bobcat
#

HAHAHAHA SOOON

nova pelican
#

sooooooooooooooooooon

hollow current
#

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

rapid bobcat
#

Okay that was quite funny

paper crag
#

and they couldn't even get him an "authentic" one but the cheaper printed one?

silk linden
#

suprised nobody did this gag yet

deft valley
#

those things legit take a while

#

even for big orgs

paper crag
#

no they do not lol

nova pelican
#

akm lookin kinda chubby

paper crag
#

if you want to rush one off for the player

rapid bobcat
#

Effect looks angry

paper crag
#

it takes literally less than an hour

ruby pendant
#

What if Fuel beat Valiant?

silk linden
#

nah

ruby pendant
#

Will you all switch sides?

#

@silk linden you sure?

deft valley
#

why would we

hollow current
#

i'm already on fuels side

silk linden
#

never sure

#

don't think so though

#

we'll see

hollow current
#

it's hard being a dallas fan :(

solar trout
#

AKM is a great soldier, but they gotta get rascal in more

pearl stratus
#

After the Boston NYXL thing nothings ever certain.

paper crag
#

of course setting up mass production would take a while, but if i were OWL, i would rush a one off for the player at a private embroidery shop

pearl stratus
#

But when it comes to Dallas.

silk linden
#

Rascal can't play at the moment

deft valley
#

like wdym switch sides

pearl stratus
#

IT's just Shanghai with people you know more.

paper crag
#

would cost like less than $50

tawny sigil
#

AKM doesnt want to be there
Oge doesnt want to deal with that shit
Effect just wants to win

solar trout
#

:c

nova pelican
#

no rascal no win\

hollow current
#

noooooooooooooo

rapid bobcat
#

Semmler ANGERY

deft valley
#

they can't run it at a random embroidery shop

hollow current
#

sigh

deft valley
#

they have contracts with the manufacturers

rapid bobcat
#

Semhex DansGame

hollow current
#

Sexler ResidentSleeper

nova pelican
#

why do people not like semmler

deft valley
#

still better than doacristo

rustic perch
#

TriHard7

rapid bobcat
#

They're terrible

feral oyster
#

is Volskaya - Numbani - Nepal - Route 66 always the lineup?

deft valley
#

no

vagrant fossil
#

BASED SEMMLER

deft valley
#

there's two maps of each type in rotation

pearl stratus
#

That was honestly a perfect summation of Bunny

hollow current
#

semmler is the worst caster in owl

#

thats why

rustic perch
#

the last 3 matches i saw all began with volskaya

pearl stratus
#

Bunny is this weird little bulldog of a Tracer. He's insanely fun to watch.

rustic perch
#

the first both matches yesterday and this one

rapid bobcat
#

There is Temple of Anubis as well @rustic perch

paper crag
#

i feel like the maps usually get clustered for some reason though

#

like we have a long patch of predominantly volskaya

#

then a patch of anubis

rapid bobcat
#

@rustic perch Next match will start with anubis actually

rustic perch
#

ah okay

nova pelican
#

oge and effect putting in work

paper crag
#

with an odd anubis/volskaya here and there within those patches

hollow current
#

PogChamp GE

rustic perch
#

volskaya still seems to be the majority currently tho

paper crag
#

so how do you guys like OGE?

nova pelican
#

bunny got them long flanks

hollow current
#

whiff

#

wtf

rustic perch
paper crag
#

LOL

brisk roost
#

BUNNY!!

nova pelican
#

holy shit

rapid bobcat
#

Next 3 matches actually @rustic perch

hollow current
#

not like this

hidden osprey
#

that was HUGE

rustic perch
#

i thought they were swapping the mapsets after each match

silk linden
#

the one time the camera wasn't on tracer

pearl stratus
#

I think OGE is a solid tank, I still think he's a shitbag for boosting though

rapid bobcat
#

"Why is nobody dying" - Bronze Caster

rustic perch
#

at least that was what i recognize

nova pelican
#

oh baby a triple

brisk roost
#

TRIPLE BABY

ruby pendant
#

lol

paper crag
#

of course he's a shitbag. i mean as a player though

rapid bobcat
#

Hex also like to say "TAKES DOWN 3"

paper crag
#

is oge a better fit for fuel than xqc?

rapid bobcat
#

Here on bunny and SBB

hollow current
#

anyone is better for fuel than xqc

deft valley
#

the only appropriate call for 3k is "ooh baby a tripple"

hollow current
#

lol

paper crag
#

that's map

rapid bobcat
#

Bye Dallas

brisk roost
#

LETS GO VALIANT

nova pelican
#

nooooooo

rustic perch
#

i didnt know bunny got transfered from seoul to valiant

pearl stratus
#

What was somoene saying about Dallas maybe winning? lmao

ruby pendant
#

only game 1

paper crag
#

so have you guys seen any player using anything other than korean/chinese/english?

pearl stratus
#

@rustic perch His play style doesn't fit Seoul, basically. That's what they said.

#

Seoul is very methodical, Bunny is very aggressive.

paper crag
#

i don't think i've seen anyone run the client on french or german

pearl stratus
#

Not very methodical.

paper crag
#

etc

rustic perch
#

yea true

pearl stratus
#

He's like a dog you let off a leash.

paper crag
#

sounds like he should be on a chinese team

rustic sphinx
#

so

paper crag
#

running a dive comp

#

😛

rustic sphinx
#

why is seagull not opening

nova pelican
#

personal issues or something

hollow current
#

^

rustic perch
#

because he's the best gengu in the world he's busy doing weaboo things Thanking

rustic sphinx
#

whats the source?

rustic perch
#

ketchup

tawny sigil
#

They keep forgeting to predict

nova pelican
#

some shit i looked at earlier

rustic sphinx
#

aight

#

thanks

paper crag
#

did soon kill akm then land a headshot on oge right after lol

#

you w0t dallas?

nova pelican
#

effect is free to go wild with a good main tank

rustic perch
silk linden
#

effect has run out of fucks to give in stage 2

hollow current
#

if effect keeps this up i feel like he's the best tracer in the league

ruby pendant
#

Lol, who said Fuel don't stand a chance?

paper crag
#

i mean, his nickname at one point WAS "world's best tracer"

hollow current
#

exactly

#

WAS

nova pelican
#

wow

paper crag
#

so is there a limit to how many observers can be in a match?

#

i mean, i would assume so, but how many is it

#

is it like 4 or is it like 24

rustic perch
#

definitely more than 4, given the fact that everyone in a custom game queue is pretty much a spectator

deft valley
#

tourney client has separate setting i'm sure

rustic perch
#

should be about 15

deft valley
#

on the normal one I think you can set it in the game setup

#

with a max of, iirc, 12

brisk roost
#

SPACE BRUH

paper crag
#

hmmmm that's a little bit tight to run dedicated camera for each player

nova pelican
#

another double

paper crag
#

but lik eyou said, maybe tourney client is special

nova pelican
#

this nigga

paper crag
#

i wish fuel hadn't lose point B so quickly

#

lost*

rustic perch
#

even if they finish with 1 second they're still able to win

deft valley
#

I would be surprised if the system for OWL matches isn't just the game sending all the position/shooting/whatever data to a "director" client

#

in which case the number of available angles is irrelevant

grizzled trout
#

Emp 😴

hollow current
#

plat chat

nova pelican
#

why did he self destruct there

deft valley
#

remech

feral oyster
#

??????????????????????

rustic perch
#

avocado las luces KappaPride

hollow current
#

to get mech back

feral oyster
#

oh

hollow current
#

lol

feral oyster
#

oh, because sombra

pearl stratus
#

Fucking Bunny.

brisk roost
#

AKM SLAMMED BY OGE WHAT

pearl stratus
#

On anyone else you'd be a retard to try and 1v1 a McCree

nova pelican
#

na casters

brisk roost
#

Lol

hollow current
#

tracer vs mccree is tracer favoured lol

brisk roost
#

AKM just got killed

hollow current
#

atleast in higher elo

brisk roost
#

By Bunny

nova pelican
#

bunny is shitting on akm and akm just has his mouth open

hidden osprey
#

whoa

rustic perch
hidden osprey
#

that was a big samsung bomb

paper crag
#

wtf fuel don't play with my heart like this

feral oyster
#

WOW

deft valley
#

just cut this out lol

silk linden
#

self destructs are so random

pearl stratus
#

I mean they lost 4 minutes of that fight.

hollow current
#

@rustic perch they're losing rn lol

pearl stratus
#

They're still massively losing.

rustic perch
#

still winnable, i could care less about both teams but still

deft valley
#

hot takes before match are stupid anyway

#

in either direction

paper crag
#

i feel like fuel's defended against worse situations though

hollow current
#

valiant has 5 mins

#

dallas has 1 min

#

it will require a miracle to dallas to win

#

lel

paper crag
#

they just need to make the most out of this minute

#

yeah

rustic perch
#

if they manage to cap A it's definitely doable

hollow current
#

they gotta win 2 fights in a row

paper crag
#

draw is probably the most realistic best case scenario

#

but still i'm ready do beleev

hollow current
#

oof

#

looking good

nova pelican
#

nice

rustic perch
#

DIDSOMEONESAYTHEYLOST

silk linden
#

so clean

hollow current
#

they still gotta get point b to have a good chance

nova pelican
#

they still have to take b in 30 sec so

paper crag
#

point B tho

hollow current
#

lel

hidden osprey
#

keep it up

#

pls

rustic perch
#

they dont have to get B if they manage to hold A

paper crag
#

yeah but it's 5 minutes

hollow current
#

?

nova pelican
#

theyre not gonna defend a for 5 min

hollow current
#

esca LUL

brisk roost
#

Dafuq was that pulse Effect

nova pelican
#

oh shit

paper crag
#

oh shit

rustic perch
#

OGE POGGERS

visual glen
#

wew

hidden osprey
#

OGE GWfroggyPoggers

paper crag
#

NO C9 NO C9 NO C9 PLS

nova pelican
#

ohhhhhhhhhhh shiiiiiiiiitttttttttt

hollow current
#

naisuuuh

#

they're doing it

balmy wolf
#

damn dallas

hollow current
#

the stall tho

#

yikes

rustic perch
#

DIDSOMEONESAY

#

DALLASHASLOST

hollow current
#

monkaS

grizzled trout
#

Omg

paper crag
#

WHOO

nova pelican
#

dallas take my energy

brisk roost
#

WOW

silk linden
#

nicely done

paper crag
#

now it's doable as long as they don't get steamrolled

vagrant niche
#

WINNABLEEEEEEEE

grizzled trout
#

Woah

ruby monolith
#

2 CAP BOIS!!

rustic perch
#

nobody believed in me, now you need to, i'm your oracle now

#

ask me anything

vagrant niche
#

BURN BLUEEE DallasFuel DallasFuel DallasFuel

paper crag
#

WHEN WILL SHD BEAT NYXL

nova pelican
#

soon

rustic perch
#

next matchup Kappa

hollow current
#

they havent won yet calm ur tits lol

ruby monolith
#

still a great feat

hollow current
#

yes

rapid bobcat
#

I want Dragons to beat Shock

hollow current
#

i wanna see diya clap sinatraa

nova pelican
#

we need the 6 tank strat

silk linden
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Hex, that OGE transcendence knock was easy what are you even saying

paper crag
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so i just realized that SHD can win every remaining match as 4-0's and they'll still be in the negatives

rapid bobcat
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I would want to watch that match but I need to wake up for work at 5:30 am and its 1:30 am now. European life

silk linden
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"OMG OGE knocking off Zen" yeah with winston ult, how is that hard

hollow current
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Just don't sleep LOOOOOOOOOOOOL 4Head

rapid bobcat
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@hollow current I need it

hollow current
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:(

rustic perch
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who needs sleep

rapid bobcat
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I do

rustic perch
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sleep is a myth

rapid bobcat
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Sleel is god-like

mortal cloak
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Already falling apart

hollow current
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soon is poppin

brisk roost
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YEAAH!!!

pearl stratus
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He's not popping though

hollow current
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horrible rez from harry tho

pearl stratus
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His Widows really mediocre today.

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Thats the thing

rustic perch
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sleep is disgusting if you sleep for a short amount of time only

hollow current
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he got a 3k right there?

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LOL

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wtf are u saying he's not poppoin

pearl stratus
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Think of his last few maps on Soon.

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As Widow.

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He's been insane.

hollow current
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okay

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so

pearl stratus
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Literally insane, he's losing duels to AKM right now.

hollow current
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how is getting a 3k not popping off

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?

vagrant niche
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What happened?????

pearl stratus
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I'm more saying if Soon was on A game this would be really different.

nova pelican
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technically that was just clean up

vagrant niche
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why did he reset?

hollow current
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2 headshots

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"cleanup"

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?

paper crag
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i guess endoken is focusing more on a longer term game performance?

rustic perch
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what did akm do there lol

hollow current
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feed

paper crag
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and you're focusing more on individual super plays

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idk tho

nova pelican
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dallas pls

ruby pendant
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just came back, lol

rustic perch
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that play from akm probably lost them the match if they are unlucky now

paper crag
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lol mickie

ruby pendant
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Who said Fuel stand no chance?

paper crag
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2 minutes pls

hollow current
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statistically they barely have any chance

rapid bobcat
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I have no fav for this match

hollow current
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but you never know what dallas will do

rustic perch
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both teams have new players

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you cant just take "statistics"

hollow current
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sometimes they're worse than dragons and sometimes they're almmost as good as seoul

silk linden
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grind your Sombra akm

ruby pendant
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Sande, you're forgiven

nova pelican
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akm bro...

rustic perch
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yea akms sombra is extremely bad right now

ruby pendant
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Endoken, where are you??!

hollow current
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rip

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oof

pearl stratus
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I'm still here

silk linden
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if you're not gonna get good followup kills might as well play soldier

pearl stratus
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This is more the Soon performance I mean, btw.

ruby pendant
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we'll see

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wow

hollow current
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soon poppin again

nova pelican
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oh no

hidden osprey
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20 seconds... oof

pearl stratus
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That was legitimately long term solid McCree performance.

paper crag
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what happens if valiant were to take this in OT? both teams just get 1 min each?

pearl stratus
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His Point A Widow has been eh

rustic perch
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they both got time now

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1:20 - 1:00

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both OT = 1:00 - 1:00

silk linden
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u sure?

rustic perch
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yep

silk linden
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isn't OT = you get no more tries

rustic perch
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no

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if the other team drops below 1:00

silk linden
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ok

rustic perch
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you get back up to 1:00