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do they actually get all the channels to manipulate on their own?
overwatch league is trash
Mom Soe. Disappointed not angry
i think they just send out whatever they get from the main channel
I want soon to stick me with his pulse bomb
is soon short or soe tall?
soon is a short french dwarf
He's short
soon looks like he could be tall from his profile pic
very handsome
prob because he's got a nice face, yeah
Inb4 seoul plays xepher
play xepher vs SHD pls
player of the match is bunny
soe and soon gonna fuck after this interview
he did so much
let him get rekt by the frog
I think coaches won't do that because usually Dallas and seoul have good matches
well
soe has wide hips fellas
dallas does oddly okay every time they play seoul lol
Where's that reddit copypasta? Where Dallas barely loses at the start of a stage
despite seoul usually not going full B squad on them iirc
that's a big bye
Dallas does ok vs all the big shots but they choke
and with the meh teams, they get destroyed
I'm ready for dissapointment not gonna get my hopes up
I do it with all sports
I'm ready for an exciting match. Last two DF vs Seoul have been fun to watch
i just want some DF wins 😦
rascal pls carry
If it's possible for the other team to win I get myself ready to not get to mad if it happens
rascal mei pls
Is rascal in?
Yea
yeah hes back
Nice
Rascal and OGE will be in
boooo oge
oh shit oge lol
Hey, DF will actually have leadership again. Maybe
i don't even know that guy other than he's DF and was suspended for boosting
is he good?
probably
We barely know iirc. Haven't seen him much
They were just talking about who Valiant isn't going to play this stage. Here's a table of who isn't playing who for Stage 3
https://i.imgur.com/x7C0Bzt.png
No Fusion vs Glads 
ooh DF avoids London lol
it's pretty hilarious that missing out on SHD is a guaranteed disadvantage

If you didn't notice, the teams that don't match up in a stage are always in opposite divisions
Don't dragons play Mayhem in a week or two? Might be ready to take them on by then
Which means the divisions with worse teams are at an advantage
(which is Pacific)
unfortunately it's only a teeny tiny advantage 😄
so there are 8 teams who will play SHD every stage, and 4 teams who will only play them 3 times, right?
lol but that opportunity to run experimental comps
and free morale boost
Right! I have that table, too! standby
dragons take my energy
SHD is much more than just a W and map scores
It's a philosophy of throwing by not picking up MY?
weren't most of them too young to be picked up though?
Maybe? Wouldn't surprise me
they should lower the age limit overwatch is a kiddie kids game for kids
kids are gonna be the best at it
I'll watch till 12
Seoul Dynasty is the team that doesn't get to skip London or NYXL in any stage 
Man, Valiant really lucked out
gtfo malik
Lol that basically negates Seouls advantage of being pacific division
I mean, at this point none of the geolocation makes sense
hump day
i hope they are not going with traveling for home away match
that would be a big waste of money and time
And I feel like you'd lose the cross-team friendships
No longer all living in the same area
yeah
dallas fuel is hardly envyus anymore
holy shit
Harry and Chips XD
OGE coming in
rip seagull
that is a sexy jeans
PLEASE KILL GENJIIIIIIIIIIII
lmao XD yes
Lol, still showing Cocco on the roster =/
Cocco is basically out
Custa basically said Cocco will never play for DF

based rascal
LETS GO FUEL!!!
ffs m8
He injured

"From Texas"
Wrist
No more sasuke effect
effect looks confident
Fuck.
so i guess DF's main tank must be blonde
Angry Effect performed better
natural or dyed
fleta is the meta
We most likely will lose
No seagull 
this isn't envyus
lol mickie
Mickie lol
that
rest in piece seagull
Mickie on dva LOL
thsat's how mickie doing on fuel now
Welp
@onyx shore lol
He is just being positive to get the starting roster
is the juggling a symbolism for his performance
Give him a shot guys. New main tank who might actually be good
OGE actually has his name on his jersey. So many new players don't have that.
no cococ,no chips,no taimou
Maybe it depends on team budget
rip envyus
xepher lul
OGE was delayed bro
why akm in over rascal
cause of the boosting
for 4 games tho
maybe they need his soldier
not a long time
That’s a gg bois 4-0

What's the map?
jehong <3
Yup
dynasty wants to lose really badly
They keep losing when jehong isn't in
ah damnit
They can't help zunbas wrist being hurt tho
I am still rooting for fuel
xepher off tank then?
I liked the seagull dva
Fuel 
where is Tobi
yeah
no tobi no win
where is tobi

Gambler is great. Still seems weird not to play tobi tho
I need Tobi
Seems like everyone says gambler is better than tobi
ouch that harsh transition
that shirt hella tacky
I guess they use gambler for mercy
literally unwatchable
omfg Uber's shirt is so damn ugly
Cause he's better
wth is uber wearign
Apparently they dress him
bro Uber is sleek
uber's shirt is a petri dish
nigga got his mom to pick out his clothes
did you see how abruptly they switched cameras? literally unwatchable guys
I think the designers have a side bet going on the ugliest thing they can convince him to wear
they have stylists in the arena that pick out their clothes
@nova pelican LMAO I THOUGHT THE SAME THING
no joke
Semmler had on an ugly ass shirt like that last week
The first fight is gonna decide whether i watch this or not
why not just use suit
LETS GO FUEL 
semlmler always has some freaky shit on
mickie pls
boosting activated
OGE with the stage 1 Jjonak hair
Zumba I pray u passed ur soul to xepher
akm on widow i sleep
fuck xepher though
My heart
@spring lintel so... you watching?
they got a tick at least
Gambler res was kinda ballsy
WOW
LETS GO BOIIISSS
so Zunba has a wrist injury?
"wire frame" that is not wire frame
Yes
sad, I love Zunba
Ults pretty even going into this
Same
aKm on Soldier oh booooy
what happened to zunba's wrist? just from overuse or did he actually get hurt from something?
Guess Dynasty not too concerned about current playoffs
most likely overuse
Rather test their rosters
i feel like i don't even see zunba that often though
@spring lintel lol
He's on alot
EFFECT WOW
And jehong kept his
Gave up too early
EFFECT
Zunba is usually always in
hmm, okay. i don't watch that many seoul games lol
sad
The only reason to watch dallas is effect
Damn. Munchkin and Fleta deleting supports
bad res i think
I got a paper to write but I can't keep myself from watching OWL
gambler with sneaky rez
most of the seoul games i watched had someone else instead, but i guess it's reasonable since they were usually against weaker teams
clutch
meanwhile custa is living the life
gobble gobble
No, unkoe is good. Upgrade from chips on zen
I am so happy that custa knew what’s good for him
Definitely, felt like Fuel got better with him.
Custa right now: "people win multiple matches in a row?????"
Effect the same
damn akm deleted
Anything is an upgrade from chips lmao
throwback to the game where Chips got targeted every 5 seconds and no one would help him, twas a sad sight
effect's bombs
Effect just using pulse bombs left and right wtf
dat 2cp though
His team is so trash
Weird time to toss it in there
effect is turning heel
angry Effect = easy win
OGE isn't bad
angry effect
unless you win a fight by landslide, the defending team will just slowly build up again
He doesnt give a fuck, he knows they are not winning
the rest though
Effect dead
They literally lost a 6v4
rip carry dead
Fight lost
anything was better than taimou winston
Wait for effect to kill everything
almost c9
Harry dead
gotem
Perfect tracking
"perfect tracking"
Lmao
save the game for fuel
jehong lucio lol
lol
oge is pretty good
Sigh
perfect tracking
it was OT though, right?
PERFECT
OGE proving his worth
oge is an upgrade from taimou and mickie on main tank
Effect is just dead ass carrying and the support dying 24/7
It's an old meme but it checks out
OGE bright head
lol i remembered that it was deep into OT as i asked that lol
holy shit does someone have a surgeon on speed dial
i thought oge was a big nigga but hes looking slim
because Effect is gonna need back surgery from all that carrying ASAP
they were so long into OT that i forgot it was OT
I low-key forget it's OT
Sucks to lose the point like that
they should absolutely be playing Seagull instead of Mickie and I don't know why they aren't
Too stressful
they said Seagull is out for personal issues
idk. i can see seoul getting point B with like 4 minutes left on the clock
"personal issues"?
but idk if we can't trust anything fuel says rn
but at the same time, i can see DF actually winning it
gambler's res was pretty vital
Yeah gambler is doing well
They can
without Seagull in I don't have faith
what's Dallas's record right now
Yeah i am not watching this lmao
isnt it like 6-16 or something
oh okay
Making it look easy
so ass
wow
once this map is done, I'm turning this game off
Just 6.5 minutes
nearly 7 minutes tot ake
Here we go
Same
Fleta really practing on widow
yup, DF is 6-16 with -26 on map differential
wait nvm I want tokens, I'll just mute it
Seoul is 15-7 with +18
Effect with the bomb AGAIN
REKT
casual headshot
he just dove into that crosshair lol
How they make it look this easy
miraculous defense pls
;)
nope
5:06
Effect can't 1v11 

called it, Seoul probably winning with like 4 min on the clock
Yeah I am turning off the stream, I am not gonna watch dallas wait for effect to carry
oh wait they didn't win yet
effect getting angry
i'm really waiting for effect to snap,turn heel,and leave DF
5:06
effect should play winston to channel the primal rage
ZOINKS
he'es wasted
Mickie voiceline spam
Heppy Halloween!
love that voice line
He was flash lux right?
Yea yea yea
spams happy New Year
well past new year
dude dva's accent is so weird though
i know koreans of varying fluency in english/korean
and nobody sounds like that
am korean myself too
gg ez
Munch 👏
See gambler wait to res until after they delete akm
wtf is up with miro lol
clutchkin
you should redo all her voicelines, Vivid
was he spinning so fast that it looked like he was standing still?
Y'all think it's safe to go to sleep
Dallas should really get a korean support
is it better to play winston on high sens?
I'll see one more map to be sure
watch 2nd map then go snooze
Yea
I miss that first Anubis with these teams... I had hopes 2cp would be exciting
dallas just needs a korean support duo, and tank duo, and then start using rascal/effect duo more
Maybe a French Tank if they wanma keep aKm and Unkoe
@paper crag so... a korean team? 🤔
@rain pewter shhhhhh
effect is furious
well
Xepher not doing complete shit
#BringTobiBack
i feel like widow is one of the heroes that looks pretty bad in almost all team skins
unkoe lookin like a meanie
On a scale of 1-Unkoe how tilted is the team right now
it's because of her blue skin
yeah
effect is about to go ultra instinct
it also needs that pearlish glow of her original skin
without that, her suit looks really weird
like play doh
I fuck with that vision
Ka ka ka kachi daze
Tobi 😍
Effect blanco when?
sooooooooooooon
What do you guys think, rascal in? Or DF keeps throwing?
why not both
nah, angry effect does better this round
what is up with Uber's hair
then seoul switches in some A squadders
then DF puts in rascal
and rascal mei destroys the tiebreaker
It just keeps escalating. I like it
👌
Top 10 anime battles
wasn't there some beef between rascal and kyky?
dude if it actually works out that way, this would be a pretty hype match
that was like two weeks ago
Sorta. But it's old enough that hell still play
11 petty
out of 10?
Out of 5
nice
Ryujehong on ana? 
Rascal was trynna stay in KR for as long as he could
NO
Nades incoming
yeah lol pharah is not gonna be fun vs widow and ana lol
lol
aKm throwing
gengu lmao
Time to see if aKm* can bypass the jehong shutdown 🤔
akm genji rip dallas
quick switch
hey, don't make fun of AKM genji, he said he's as good as, if not better than, rascal on most heroes
yo real quick did valiant win
LAV 4-0'd
oh damn aight thnx
zzzz
npnp
Noice
AKM Genji tho
I know that Effect and Unkoe are pissed rn
cant believe rascal not on this map
wow mercy got deleted
:)
wow
They were probably betting on Pharah. Which is stupid because rascal can Ana
na blade
Oof
Wow. Impressive
nice zoning blade
nice
hey akm thinks it's as good as rascal
Why do teams tend to lose the point in the last 30 seconds?
In ladder? Everyone actually pushes together and uses ults
Sucks to lose the point like that
In pro games? They've finally built an ult advantage
Fleta clicking on everyone's head
Maybe it's the ult resources or psychology like you all said
surprisingly
c9
Effect dang
c9
Unkoes face
Mickie still looks :)
lol stress
Watching dallas lose is my favorite past time
;-;
Why
Unkoes blink was like "I used to be on a decent team"
pass time?
akm getting roasted
Yea lol
yeah, pass time
Yeah why
oh
or their teams
That's fair
so i dont like fuel by default
Dallas big mad
Full hold incoming :((((
At least be fair to the players who may or may not have ever stepped foot in Dallas
lol full hold
no.
K
blizzard has such a hard on for dreads/tentacle/nerve bundle hair
Lucio's dreads look like brown noodles but then I remember they're supposed to look like wires
damn what a juggle
Fleta just assassinates him
I know how scary gamsu+striker are
Should effect try to synergize with OGE?
Effect has fully proven how good he is. Fuel just needs a bit more teamwork it seems
I miss rjh ana
Effect stop god damnit
That was intense
We all do
would it not have been worth it for mickie to boost in, or was his boost already on cooldown
I miss when Ana was meta
ana was fair because she was hard
i feel like mickie keeps missing the contest by a hair :\
zen is much easier than ana
Testing roster
80 damage Ana shots were really what made it interesting. Jehong could deal dps like no other Ana
what if they buffed scoped dmg but kept everything the same?
okay, if ana did 80 dmg. RJH ana or jjonak zen?
Ana would be too op
Jjonak Zen probably
what was that stick 
stick it to the ground!
get effect off this team
oh snap
he could be so much better
Wut
Nooooo
WUT
holy shit
:D
1-1
LH were always the stall kings
:D :D
LOLWUT
good hold
wow
Bro wtf I'm honestly done
Weird place to put up a hold too
BURN BLUEEEEEEE 
characteristic defensive dominance of Dallas?
Munchkin wtf were those sticks
that kid is crying
that kid is a bandwagoner
i mean
!
Those OW headphones are cool looking.
it's gonna be a 3-1 anyway
I love watching the slow mo sleep darts
it's just a matter of when that Dallas 1 happens
Why is my ad muted
Probably Beats or some other garbage.
Why am I complaining
what's the control map gonna be?
this is the best song
ilios?
Nepal
i wonder if rascal will play
Nepal can Pharah. If they still think AKM is the better Pharah then maybe not
I don't kno if I can sleep on 1-1
apparently he just got back from Korea so I'm not sure if Rascal will play
oh yeah that's true
They'd be deciding as of mid map
evenly matched
I don't care enough about Seoul or Dallas to finish watching but if Tobi comes in, pls let me know
DUDE THEY'RE COMPLETELY EVEN ON TIME PLAYED ON DVA! WHAT A RIVALRY!
lol nyxl has the lowest playercount in the league. 9 people in their team. Yet their are #1 by a large margin.
Shanghai Dragons has the most with 12. They're in last.
I mean, london was at 12 for stage 1 and won it
there are so many teams at 11 players right now
4
i feel like it'd make sense to go for 12 so you can scrim internally
Puckett no. Don't hope for 5 maps. I have to sleep
unless internal scrims aren't worth much
Internal scrims, and in case people are sick/injured.
3 with 12
4 with 11
3 with 10
2 with 9
screaming internally
Internal scrims are good for when you're testing something you don't want to shoiw.
Valiant seemed to think it isnt
like 10 player roster, i can get it. i feel like 11 is kind of that area where you might as well just get another one
i wonder if they're just keeping a slot open for a good snag from contenders
Honestly just play against your contenders team
Some Rosters are also just inflated with extra trash they're not releasing though.
Contenders teams are useless.
With a few of these teams it feels like there is so much talent on the bench that a whole new good team can be built off it
They're not on Lan.
And you're not going to practice not on lan.
Thats like telling a football team to practice on their knees.
Some of the talent is useless talent though Heumann.
aww sweet i got the 100 bonus
Like Mendo, for instance, who everyone is like "I LOVE HIS STREAM PLAY HIM"
He's literally useless and should be released.
He doesn't want to play, he rarely goes to scrims, doesn't show up to vod reviews.
fair enough
fleta not meta
why did he even join
I think its easy to think you want to do OWL.
Then you realize you're moving internationally.
And it catches up to you.
Then he got sick too.
Internationally, without his family etc.
It's probably mentally very straining for someone his age.
what do you think about iddqd is he not good enough
I think IDDQD had a bad hero pool for the first stages.
So he made himself redundant by not having a pool.
poor guy he really hates the bench
lol sideshow cast
Look at SDB. He rides the bench, do we think he's not good enough?
he's gonna change it in a week or something though probably
Still though, several players are known for zarya and never play her.
Several players are known for ana and hardly ever play her.
lol his reaction
AKM is known for soldier, but soldier is hard to use vs dive
Zarya doesn't fit in on any of these maps really.
IDDQD could probably do decent on another hero, but I think his team has failed him.
I think you're insanely underrating how useless someone is with a small hero pool.
In terms of a DPS slot.
every time i see seoul mercy, i feel like she's about to go to a funeral
Then again they have danteh, babybay, sinatraa, etc who are also all super good
They also have good pools.
Danteh grinded out a much larger pool that he entered with.
whos to say iddqd couldn't do the same?
I haven't heard anything from the man himself
And when it comes to hitscan, Babybay is arguably better than IDDQD anyway.
And can flex to other things like Widow.
Also, you don't need much of a pool if you play the best Tracer on your team usually
While thats true, most Tracers do have a pool.
They just don't need to use them.
Look at Soon, Saebyolbe, Carpe, etc.
SBB probably least of all
Liquipedia says iddqd has a hero pool of mccree first and foremost
Tracer, soldier, and widow
He isn't a one trick
Yeah but we've seen him Widow, and McCree.
nah sbb plays a lot
He just doesn't need to.
He can, but rarely does. Libero or pine covers it
Especially since Libero picked up Widow in Stage 2.
Which was completely new, btw.
malik either needs to dress more hypebeast or more formally
Like I said, all you need is to be the best Tracer
Libero had never been on Widow other than the finals.
Iddqd is either underperforming in internal scrims(If he is ever present) or the coach sucks
he looks like he literally just came from the streets after a burger
He's probably not in the scrims.
rascal
Stop showing me uber
we gonna see some rascal mei?
They're probably using IDDQD for vod review stuff.
I love the guy but the hair and shirt are killing me
the gold and blue is a pretty nice contrast
they forgot xqc lol
rip
i just hate watching nyxl vs dallas and their shades are so close to each other on the map score page
dallas... speed dating of main tank lol
After looking at the new merch I just want Shanghai to petition the league for new colors.
I want the red + blakc.
Not sure I've seen effect mei. At least outside of 2cp second
Mei's Effect is decent.
huh?
Dallas uses the most unusual strats, they'll be interesting.
Too bad it's not me from this patch
you mean Effect's Mei right
Mei*
Yeah I decided to be dyslexic.
he was waiting to say that one so hard
lol rascal's tire was funny to watch
No
yeah didn't think so
They just swapped
And effect had to switch to deal with pharah
i think she's kind of usable in sanctum though
probably not in village though
Welp
:OOOOOOO
channel your inner jardio
I think she'd be fine in Village if Fleta hadn't had been on Pharah.
dallas fuel reformed??
too early to call anime
we don't know yet
call me anime one more time
control has been DF's strong suit too
c:
Fleta Pharah into a Mei Junkrat =/ yeah not the best matchup for those dps
Worked out tho
effect is so smiley, feelsgoodman
Bye Harry.
rip effect
what a hook
HaRrYhOoK gEtS hOoKeD
3 DF dead
I kind of wonder where Zunba went that Xepher is playing though.
wrist injury
wow
fleta is nuts lol
fleta is using a fletabot
It's like he knows where they are without radar
Rofl
Effect really tried grinding Widow but it's honestly just not his hero. Definitely not up against Fleta at least
Effect is a really good Widow.
lol what do you even do here
man
Felta Is just destroying, daaamn
playing against a good widow has got to be the most frustrating thing
And that's interesting because Fleta normally isn't the best Widow v. Widow.
That's more Linkzr/Birdring.
whod that be
Classic Fuel, capping at 99
wow jehong was flying
didn't soon wreck fleta that other day?
ikr flying jehong
lol
idk, he's deleting effect here lol
Soon did really well against him, yeah.
so funny
No. No high fives here.
he left him hanging wow
lol
Straight dive
I like the Jersey + Hoodie look so much more than straight jersey.
wekeeds eyes look dead
Fleta continuing to just delete Effect.
Fingers crossed he gets angry
Side Tangent. These random company BBQ Tikka Masala chips I found are delicious and make watching e-sports more enjoyable.
lol that's great
Beautiful from rascal
Playing around cover and deleting supports while Fleta can't see him
Finally ana back
Fuel need to embrace that. Feels like they trust AKM Pharah too much
I think overall they prefer Rascal over AKM.
But Rascal did just get back from Korea like.. today.
ana play ❤
well who doesn't
nice anti
So I can understand them being worried about jet lag and stuff.
Miro with the full bait.
I wonder if jehong sees a Pharah and just thinks "finally! An excuse to play Ana"
Playing like old Miro.
damn
damn, outplayed on rein by miro
Ana be saving the game
Thank god
Haven't seen Miro play like Old Miro in a while.
but dallas reformed 😦
feel like oge should have seen the counter slam coming there
No map 5 pls
wasn't he in a seoul shirt?
No clue, honestly.
now he's hiding his team shirt because seoul was looking like they might lose
i think it's the same kid
The only Mistake we should see is on Boston.
lmao
Oge is super aggressivr
watch him back in seoul shirt next game cuz seoul is ahead
Holy crap
Also in memoram of a certain player they should probably avoid showing all children.
lol
Too much $$$.
seagull isnt good widow though
If Slasher is to be believed.
Seagull expensive
they need kazper level
Seagull wanted to be traded and was expensive,.
I think Mistakes will be fine tbh.
It'll take a while.
But he's got a decent widow, mccree, somba and tracer.
We've seen Striker swap to other things too now.
Which means they could rotate Tracers as situation demands.
Making them an interesting duo.
Mistakes played Genji against a team too.
I don't remember which team.
It was a passable Genji.
oge looks like a tank
Still feel like seagull is an improvement
mistakes must play it all
Kind of like Danteh level.
I forgot about oge
Oge is super yolo strats
OGE needs to slap whoever put the bowl on his head and went to town.
And Mickie doesn't know what to do yet
This isn't 1998. Bowl cuts are out.
Get that Pine nerd cut.
The Peri Peri are not as good as the BBQ Tikka Masala 
... Is Soe wearing mom jeans?
dinnasty
I was right
Those are totally mom jeans.
that's the style now
lookin thicker than a snicker in those jeans
mom jeans can be fashionable
That pattycake
How is Mr. X like... the best dressed one today.
Ubers shirt looks like a Jackson Pollock of semen stains.
no subs this round right?
Rosters look the same too
Munchkin has been... underwhelming lately.
Rawhide?
It's just munchkins sticks
I think in a straight 1:1 that Bunny was the better Tracer, honestly.
Hm
Munchkin has the aggression I think is good in a Tracer, but not the tracking/stick ability.
So its detrimental.
Yeah
Bodyblocked that pulse I think
Angry Effect has awakened.
that bomb ended up becoming a bait for the supports too
esketit map 5
I wish I could have that timing memorized.
To recall during a D'va bomb and not die.
This is pretty crazy. Like Fuel actually practiced just this map or something
Yeah apparently Route 66 is Dallas' secret weapon.
if Seagull plays instead of Mickie then this would actually be the ideal Fuel roster
with the players they have
scouting rip tire 200 IQ?
Who are you and what have you done with the entire team of Dallas??? Roll and smoked lul...
wow DF does not back down lol
Effect so aggro right now.
that crawl
super happy for dallas here
dat payload crawl lol
Insane delay
They stall so well
wow
Get Seagull in and they win....
I mean that's been their thing
dallas went primal rage on this one
Forever.
oh ouch i just saw the back of OGE's head
lmaoo
shit bro how much you pay for that?
2:30......
Nyxl does it better
Stall and reverse the match with less players
i hope this stage final is also a reverse sweep
jehong sweating
or that fusion wins it
Envys is back???
Nyxl loses 2 players early and still wins the fight
I mean Envy is back.
Because they got rid of all the trash that was on Envy.
It was a perfect plan.
so either "every stage final is a reverse sweep" or "2nd place last stage wins this stage" is a thing
Wonder how many kills Seoul got. Just before the stall the casters said only 1
EnVy is almost back
Fined
*almost
EffectVy.
lmao
Everyone else is garbage.
get Seagull in and EnVy is back
Sledgehammer to the face during plastic surgery
Their current roster is the best
Dallas has figured out the plan.
DIVE FLETA ALWAYS.
They just need to improve on this roster
Rascals corpse just went flying, lmao.