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pearl stratus
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Context and confirmation matters.

nova pelican
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he's 21 afaik

hazy arrow
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Or he looked at her FB profile

pearl stratus
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Is it likely? Nah.

hazy arrow
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And honestly, I know a lot of pple who put there incorrect date

pearl stratus
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But without confirmation we're getting screenshots of a conversation without the surrounded context.

hazy arrow
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Correct

paper crag
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Do people even still put their dob publicly on facebook

supple crow
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ouch he received her pics

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i wonder if it was nude

paper crag
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I mean, i’m sure people do

twin dove
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i put my job on social media all the time

pearl stratus
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A lot do, but a lot of stupid young people lie.

paper crag
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But young people to a significant degree lol

twin dove
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"Bum"

pearl stratus
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Tinder had a huge issue with it.

twin dove
pearl stratus
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"I'm really 16 but the thing made me put 18"

limber pine
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@nova pelican you're not going to get very far with comments like that

paper crag
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By the way i wonder what happens if someone over 18 claimed she was underage, the guy falls for it, and has sexual relations with her

pearl stratus
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He ends up fine and she gets in trouble for impersonating a minor, afaik.

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Since legally, technically, he did nothing wrong.

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Though he thought he was.

paper crag
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Huh, impersonating a minor is a thing?

supple crow
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no

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Chris Hansen's jailbait was over 20

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It's intent that matters

hazy arrow
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In USA, he would be okay only if she was 18+?

nova pelican
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some states age of consent is 16 but if she sent pics that's cp and illegal no matter what

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so he's fucked

hazy arrow
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Oh

twin dove
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Florida still has a law that u can marry underage doesnt it?

pearl stratus
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With parental consent.

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Most states do.

twin dove
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or think it got repealed recently

hazy arrow
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In my country, he would only need to wait a little longer as once you are 15, you are okay

nova pelican
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he should have played for mayhem damn

supple crow
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they are all in LA right now

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so it wont matter

whole mulch
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Did he ask the girl for nudes? And did she send any?

nova pelican
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joke

pearl stratus
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Not directly @whole mulch

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Without context it can be argued both ways.

supple crow
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“He was messaging/facetiming/etc with me. He told me he liked me and even bought me a plane ticket to go and see him, pressured me to send him nudes, etc…”

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definitely asked

pearl stratus
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Not in the screenshot.

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In the screen shot he just wanted eye popping pictures.

supple crow
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yeah but it is alleged

pearl stratus
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Alleged doesn't mean shit though.

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Literally worth less than garbage.

twin dove
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"definintely" lul

pearl stratus
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You have to prove it beyond reasonable doubt.

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Do we all know what he meant? Sure.

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But can you prove it is the question.

supple crow
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uh they probably have more dms since 4 screenshots are reallly few

nova pelican
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"probably"

supple crow
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i hope they leak everything

twin dove
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there's like 20ish screenshots

pearl stratus
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They probably do, but probably doesn't mean shit.

supple crow
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oh ?

pearl stratus
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Until any of its confirmed its all just hearsay and speculation.

supple crow
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he's definitely out

twin dove
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plus some more from supposedly a 16yr old this time

hazy arrow
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Gotta say shes really pretty

whole mulch
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I haven't seen her, but it's still a shame he put his urges before his professional career

nova pelican
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the 14 yo?

supple crow
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This is still developing, and we’re still getting more information from the source, and will update accordingly. We’re told she has been in contact with Sanchez since February, and as recent as just two days ago.

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yikes

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the 16 years old this time

hazy arrow
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yep

hazy arrow
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Rly looks older

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I will note that the age of consent in Atlanta (where the girl is from) is 16 years old. However, the AOC in California is 18 years old.

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Sooooo....whats superior?

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Any US lawyer here?

twin dove
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anyone else kind've annoyed that her twitter handle is linkzr?

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lol

supple crow
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and any pics under 18 = child pornography

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despite AOC

whole mulch
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No matter what state, under 18 is child pornography

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it's a federal law

nova pelican
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i brought that up in my theory

whole mulch
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not state law

pearl stratus
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She's an OW groupie.

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The handle makes sense.

whole mulch
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She does look older btw johnny

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but doesn't look 18 to me

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maybe 16

twin dove
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i know, just that there's an actual linkzr who has to use linkzrOW, kind've annoys me

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rofl

hexed jay
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it's an i instead of an l

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same with his actual gf's twitter

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lol

nova pelican
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Houston outlaws fan bleh

pearl stratus
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I mean no one in the league is going to acknowledge she exists.

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Ever again.

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So it's harmless.

warm quartz
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Let them do the investigation, until then, these screenshots and such are merely speculation. Not solid proof until the investigation is complete.

whole mulch
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She is the biggest OWL fan I've ever seen

hexed jay
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must be hard being a kid these days, all the good usernames are taken

whole mulch
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reading her twitter

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wow

pearl stratus
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@whole mulch You should see her Hoeston Outsluts discord.

whole mulch
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Outsluts?

nova pelican
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such a big fan she ruined a player's career

pearl stratus
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Yeah she's part of a group of slutty groupies apparently?

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Who knows.

whole mulch
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welp

pearl stratus
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We'll find out more when they drag her shit through the mud lol

warm quartz
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Welp that explains like half of it

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As i said, let them do the investigation

hazy arrow
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Yeah, 16 seems right

whole mulch
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Did dream respond btw

warm quartz
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I dont stand behind her, and im an assault victim. I dont at all until the investigation is complete.

pearl stratus
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No, Kraft organization is smart.

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They silenced him, put up a statement and said nothing.

warm quartz
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If all of this is true, then touche.

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Otherwise i dont stand by her.

hazy arrow
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She said she had a poll asking ppl how old they think she is (14-17 options), most said 17

pearl stratus
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None of that matters Johnny.

twin dove
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I like the tweet of "LMAO He's still following me, funny"

whole mulch
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She said she was 14 though didn't she

pearl stratus
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Ignorance doesn't count, ever.

twin dove
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what a snarky bitch

warm quartz
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Which means she would've been well aware if she was 17 LOL

whole mulch
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to dream

silk linden
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kids be stupid

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only they be stupid to the entire internet

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fucking 21st century

pearl stratus
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It's basically just this:

supple crow
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she said she was 14 to dream, he has no excuse

hazy arrow
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Endoken, I didnt say anything like that 😃

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It was a reaction to Salty

nova pelican
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his gf is prettier than herwhat a shame

pearl stratus
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But yeah, like Temp said.

whole mulch
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Random question but if a girl looks barely legal and she says she is ~21 what exactly would happen if you had relations with them

silk linden
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I wonder how often this sort of shit happens with irl sports, and how much money and management goes into preventing it from going public

twin dove
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tell that to Disrespect and Kephrii

whole mulch
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Like, she looks ~19

pearl stratus
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@whole mulch Registry.

twin dove
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men with status like to cheat

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😏

pearl stratus
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Even if you're lied to, you're still at fault.

whole mulch
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I see

pearl stratus
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Check ID's boys.

hazy arrow
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Salty who? the 16yo one?

whole mulch
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so if the girl has a fake id

silk linden
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like, I know famous football players get blackmailed into having sextapes releases very often, and they just pay without batting an eye

whole mulch
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does it change anything

pearl stratus
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I'm not sure, honestly.

whole mulch
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(I'm just really curious)

pearl stratus
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YOu'd have to look that up.

whole mulch
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Alrighty

pearl stratus
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Registry laws and rules are really oblique and random.

twin dove
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u'd probably need evidence u saw a fake ID honestly

pearl stratus
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I have a friend who's on the registry because he peed.

whole mulch
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.

hazy arrow
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Anyway, that "hes still following me" and the OG tweet with "this piece of shit", that seems for some reason strange

pearl stratus
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Public urination became public indecency, level 1 sex offense.

hazy arrow
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I cant help

pearl stratus
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It's already been discussed, at length though.

hazy arrow
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Like, you are friends, you are okay and then suddenly you hate him so much?

pearl stratus
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None of our conjecture matters till somethings proved.

whole mulch
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I do wonder what led to her leaking dms and such

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going from friends to exposing him

hazy arrow
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Parents maybe

nova pelican
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she had malicious intent in a screen

whole mulch
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perhaps

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her parents know

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about the situation

twin dove
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"kaz is gonna get what he deserves"

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holy shit spiteful

hazy arrow
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That would make sense

pearl stratus
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Eh one of them also says "I'll just hold onto this stuff and ruin his career in one tweet"

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She's not going to have a good time through this.

twin dove
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aye

pearl stratus
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But it doesn't matter till its proven.

hazy arrow
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@pearl stratus do you have link to it?

solar trout
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isn't that faked endo

warm quartz
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Its too perfect. I dont and wont believe it until the investigation is complete. I'd advise you do the same

pearl stratus
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Any of it could be faked.

manic thunder
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imagine if the screenshots are staged

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I would die of laughther

pearl stratus
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DMs, text messages, etc.

nova pelican
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could be

pearl stratus
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They're so easy to be faked.

nova pelican
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i hope

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aren't those screens from kik

pearl stratus
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I mean you'd be hoping for nothing.

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He's still done with OWL.

hazy arrow
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@warm quartz Correct

pearl stratus
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You're just hoping he doesn't get charged for a crime at this point.

nova pelican
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yeah but i don't want him in jail

pearl stratus
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He won't go to jail either way most likely.

whole mulch
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sorry for using you as an example xD

pearl stratus
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No its fine Salty.

manic thunder
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pro edits

pearl stratus
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I was using the internet to tell people what discord channels they were in earlier 😛

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Just to show them how easy it is to figure stuff out.

whole mulch
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lol

nova pelican
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is it true you like turtles

pearl stratus
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I don't hate em.

whole mulch
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Turtles can be fun

hazy arrow
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Wtf is wrong with you you creep

nova pelican
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disgusting

whole mulch
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I want to see the reaction of someone just coming into the convo

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and seeing this

limber pine
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I too like turtles 🐢

fleet wren
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...

nova pelican
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blocked

whole mulch
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...I was expecting Sprite to come in and punish us/tell us to stay on topic

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was scared for a moment

limber pine
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Eh

twin dove
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Turtles are Turtly

limber pine
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Everything’s fucked

pearl stratus
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He's given up on reigning in retards.

hazy arrow
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Earlier today the Overwatch League was made aware of the allegations against Endoken. He is suspended indefinitely while the league investigates this matter.

pearl stratus
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Too full time a mod job.

warm quartz
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Regardless of the outcome i dont defend the girl one bit. I also dont defend kasper. Both of them are at fault.

whole mulch
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I agree, both made mistakes

pearl stratus
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One is definitely worse than the other, but no ones not at fault.

manic thunder
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They are both idiots

hazy arrow
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@warm quartz 👆

warm quartz
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The girl, even at 14, should have known better. I knew better at 14 when i was assaulted, and i kept quiet about it because i knew it wasnt worth the fight

nova pelican
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but his liking turtles are just allegations we must wait

paper crag
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Lol that the office episode

warm quartz
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She should have said something, and didnt. Kasper also shouldnt have done it

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Plain and simple, both are at fault

twin dove
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is she 14 or 15 I swear to god like every other article says something different

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lol

paper crag
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I literally watched that yesterday before the whole dk thing broke out

pearl stratus
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There's other back story issues we're missing.

whole mulch
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Pretty sure it's 14

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I haven't seen an article that said 15

manic thunder
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14 I believe

twin dove
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alright, guess im delusional, we'll go with that

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haha

pearl stratus
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Half of them say 15 now.

whole mulch
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Maybe you did see one that said 15

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I'm just saying I haven't seen one

pearl stratus
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Also due to the nature of reporting.

nova pelican
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anyone saw that screen where dream said put it in my ass daddy to her

twin dove
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idk i've been sick for days, i could be hallucinating, ya'll could be figments of my imagination for all i know at this point

hazy arrow
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@warm quartz Yeah... the problem is that often you have no way to prove it

whole mulch
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Reporting news is basically "quick! Post what we know fast so our story comes out first!"

solar trout
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<---was never here

pearl stratus
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I mean he also said Choke Me Daddy, btu thats basically just a meme now.

nova pelican
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what a guy

twin dove
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i think he's just an exhibitionist looking to put on a show for someone

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😏

pearl stratus
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All of the daddy stuff is memes, its a stupid way to desensitize and let people get away with shit.

manic thunder
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Not going to lie it doesn't matter what age she is after all she is still underage

pearl stratus
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No ones saiyng that though.

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People argue the dumbest points.

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People are just saying she's not without culpability as well.

warm quartz
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All i say is the lowest age ive seen listed is 14.

pearl stratus
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She's not magically a victim, she just is underage.

warm quartz
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And even at 14, she should know better. Thats a freshman in high school.

whole mulch
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Anyways, regardless of what proof comes out I still think dream's career is over

nova pelican
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bad parenting

whole mulch
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either by his choice or by org defending their reputation

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I don't think he will stay in OWL

pearl stratus
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He won't.

warm quartz
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Most sex ed in school is in like 7-8th grade in the states

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So she really had no excuse.

whole mulch
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Sex ed I first took in the 8th grade

warm quartz
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Not to mention SHES IN THE FUCKING OWL FANDOM

whole mulch
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(13/14 years old)

warm quartz
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IN A GODDAMN DISCORD NAMED HOUSTON SLUTS ORWHATEVER

nova pelican
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she wanted attention obv

warm quartz
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I don't disagree.

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Most assault victims who were assaulted at 17 or younger are not coming to her side

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We're staying in the middle

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14-17 is not total innocence

nova pelican
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yeah I'm not excusing kazper

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gotta look both sides

warm quartz
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I'm more sick of seeing people say "SHE WAS 14 SHE DIDNT KNOW BETTER"

pearl stratus
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He fucked his career, there's a decent chance she fucked her life.

nova pelican
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same tbh

pearl stratus
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But it doesn't matter till anything is confirmed.

warm quartz
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Either way, both of them are fucked.

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You had your fifteen minutes of fame honey

whole mulch
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I found a video of me playing against dreamkazper a year ago o.O

warm quartz
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LOL

nova pelican
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chances of meeting or talking to an outlaw less than 0 now

warm quartz
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LOL

whole mulch
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dreamkazper is there

warm quartz
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NO WAY IS THAT PAPA SALT?

whole mulch
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also seagull and gale were on my team

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but eh

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at the time I had no idea who dream was

pearl stratus
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I'd want to play with Seagull.

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I feel like he'd be fun to play with overall.

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He always seems way chill on his streams.

whole mulch
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I used to run into him all the time

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this was back when he streamed and was super nice/fun in voice chat

nova pelican
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i watch kazper streams he talks extremely low to the chat

whole mulch
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When I watched Kazper's stream he seemed really friendly and helpful

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he was explaining to chat why he was doing what he was doing, explaining positioning, his ability usage etc.

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was the last person I'd expect to get into this kind of drama

nova pelican
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he was my 2nd favorite player so sad

whole mulch
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I didn't know who he was until OWL

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so he's not one of my favorites but

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he was getting there

nova pelican
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dude had the game of his life against outlaws

civic marsh
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yeah well

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don't diddle kids

pearl stratus
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mfw.

twin dove
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maybe thats what made him good at the game.

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😬

pearl stratus
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We find out Clockwork told her to leak it so they could be together.

nova pelican
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technically he didn't diddle

whole mulch
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LOL

nova pelican
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fucking clockwork

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sray on the bench smh

pearl stratus
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At least he's on the bench.

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Mendo doesn't even leave his room 😛

twin dove
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oh is clockwork a player? i saw him on the oversights thing last night

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thought he was like a commentator or some shit

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lol

whole mulch
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Clockwork is houston's tracer specialist

pearl stratus
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Nah he's one of the benchers for Houston with Mendo.

whole mulch
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or ex, rather

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Mendo is eh...

pearl stratus
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Mendo is hard to work with and doesn't want to play.

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Long story short.

twin dove
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oh ya i saw ppl mentioning him the other day

pearl stratus
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Monte flat out roasted him last night.

twin dove
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not showing up to team meetings or w/e

civic marsh
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he has mental health problems

whole mulch
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Didn't Mendo have problems with his wisdom teeth in stage 1

pearl stratus
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He's had them for what.. two years now?

whole mulch
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and didn't play for that

pearl stratus
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@whole mulch He's barely played for any teams he's been on .

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Historically.

nova pelican
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this is pretty juicy can't wait to find out a player killed his parents in stage 4

whole mulch
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Ah I thought he had playtime for C9

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as a main player

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or am I wrong

nova pelican
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he did I think with surefour

pearl stratus
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He had play time till they got a korean tracer.

hazy arrow
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During Stage 2, Dream had an amazing play as Genji while defending second point on Volskaya

pearl stratus
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And he was benched indefinitely after.

whole mulch
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I remember looking at mendo and thinking "wow he's unbeatable" or something
but now so many people have reached that level that Mendo isn't super impressive anymore

hazy arrow
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And generally he was always standing out when I watched Boston

nova pelican
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he had a sick mccree back in the day

pearl stratus
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Mendo got replaced by Selly.

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Who is basically still a no name.

silk linden
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We need new phrases to replace "let mendo fuck" and "let seagull out of jail", since we've now had a player getting in trouble for fucking and another seriously risking jail time

whole mulch
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Dream is insane for boston, johnny

nova pelican
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free iddqd

whole mulch
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Poor IDDQD and Mendo

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:(

civic marsh
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poor numlocked

whole mulch
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What happened to numlocked

hazy arrow
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I wonder if there is any other OWL player who did omething like this

whole mulch
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he's in contenders isn't he

civic marsh
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he's rotting in the valiant dungeon

hazy arrow
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If so, he must be scared as hell

whole mulch
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o

pearl stratus
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Silkthread has gotten more playtime than I expected going over to LAG.

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but he's got a better pool than Hydration for this stage.

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So it makes sense.

nova pelican
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how is his genji

whole mulch
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When did Numlocked join Valiant

silk linden
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But can he play DOOMFIST

pearl stratus
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Silkthreads? Decent.

whole mulch
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and wtf, KSF is on valiant?

nova pelican
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yup

whole mulch
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when did this happen

nova pelican
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like last day of signings

civic marsh
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they signed ksf and finnsi a few days ago

whole mulch
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I didn't hear about it D:

indigo barn
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But silk thread can’t play doomfist

pearl stratus
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Numlocked is in jail because Fates really good.

indigo barn
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Is envy going to jail too

silk linden
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Don't say jail

indigo barn
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Prison

nova pelican
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envy will be back in season 2

hazy arrow
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Well guys, I gotta go do a project which is due tomorrow and I havent started yet

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Wish me luck and see ya later

silk linden
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Now there are owl players actually risking jail

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So it's misleading

pearl stratus
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I could see a new OWL team picking Envy.

civic marsh
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misleading to who

pearl stratus
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None of the current teams though

indigo barn
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Rip unkoe tho

silk linden
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misleading to anyone

indigo barn
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At least custa is having a good time

pearl stratus
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Unkoe is a toxic baguette

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Fuck unkoe.

whole mulch
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Unkoe is super toxic

nova pelican
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is soon toxic

silk linden
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don't act like you haven't seen clueless fuckers in here

pearl stratus
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Soon is a little toxic, but not nearly close to Unkoe level.

civic marsh
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that winston guy posts here so good point

indigo barn
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So inkoe is where he belongs now?

whole mulch
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he's the type that would yell "KILL YOURSELVES" into mic when he's mad

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poor mickie stuck w/ him

nova pelican
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free seagull

silk linden
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people might legit read "let numlock out of jail" and actually believe he's in jail

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forreal don't underestimate people's cluelessness

pearl stratus
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Rascal is staying in Korea to avoid Unkoe.

indigo barn
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Has silk thread really been carrying his ass as of late tho

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Because hydration man

pearl stratus
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Silkthread has been playing really well.

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And has a better hero pool for this stage than Hydration.

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Hydration is only genji pharah, really.

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Silkthread also has Sombra, soldier, etc.

indigo barn
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And doomfist

pearl stratus
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SIlkthread bridges the gap between hit scan and projectile well.

nova pelican
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i wish they would stop putting surefour on tracer

whole mulch
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Jakefour

pearl stratus
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He's got a passable Tracer if they're not playing Asher.

whole mulch
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sorry had to

indigo barn
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Dream does hitscan and projectile too it’s crazy

whole mulch
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hm

pearl stratus
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We're only talking about OWL players Shadder.

nova pelican
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isn't silkthread a really good tracer

silk linden
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lots of dps do both hitscan and projectile

indigo barn
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Oh right skrry

silk linden
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the projectile/hitscan divide is a thing of the past

pearl stratus
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Silkthread started out as a tracer.

whole mulch
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dream's hero pool was pretty big

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surefour has a big pool

nova pelican
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surefour doesnt play genji though

civic marsh
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i hope the real flex god gets to play in OWL soon

whole mulch
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actually, surefour has one of the biggest I can think of

indigo barn
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Liberos pool tho and the level he plays each hero at

silk linden
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DK had the biggest hero pool behind Libero

whole mulch
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who tricky

civic marsh
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gods

pearl stratus
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Libero is the largest.

whole mulch
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oh right

pearl stratus
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Then probably Fleta.

indigo barn
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Surefour can play everything

whole mulch
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gods hasn't played

civic marsh
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he's in contenders i think

pearl stratus
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Surefour plays everything, but not always well.

civic marsh
#

or an academy team

whole mulch
#

I have not heard from him in so long

indigo barn
#

But as well but he can if he has to

pearl stratus
#

Libero has a really large hero pool that he plays all of them kind of insanely well.

fresh turret
#

you talking architecht?

#

or however you spell that

indigo barn
#

People saying that libero will be benched by flower are talking nonsense

nova pelican
#

libero is way too underrated

pearl stratus
#

He's not underrate.

#

*underrated.

#

Not anymore at least.

silk linden
#

Libero used to be a jack of all trades, master of none, but now he's also becoming a master which is scary as fuck

nova pelican
#

the rest of his team is just so hyped

indigo barn
#

Libero outplays everyone on everything except shadowburn on genji 3-2 nyxl gg

fresh turret
#

he's becoming a master of all trades

pearl stratus
#

Libero pulling out the Widow Stage 2 Finals.

#

When we'd never seen him on Widow before.

nova pelican
#

has he played mccree in the league yet

indigo barn
#

Watch him play tracer next and be better than sbb

pearl stratus
#

Libero?

nova pelican
#

yeah

pearl stratus
#

Libero has played McCree, yeah.

fresh turret
#

what exactly makes shadowburn's genji better than EQO's?

pearl stratus
#

He's played everything but Tracer.

indigo barn
#

He’s smarter

fresh turret
#

elaborate

pearl stratus
#

@fresh turret Mechanical ability and big brain.

indigo barn
#

Yeah that

fresh turret
#

big brain-brain

pearl stratus
#

Eqo is a genji entirely about aggression and setting the pace of the match.

fresh turret
#

ooga booga

pearl stratus
#

Shadowburn is more about location and play, and using less blades for bigger effect.

fresh turret
#

I feel that EQO is better for Philly than SB

forest wharf
#

Oof second victim article out

pearl stratus
#

He's patient, will wait out the trans etc.

indigo barn
#

Shadowburn is still god of genji

pearl stratus
#

And thats not the type of Genji you need right now.

indigo barn
#

Imo

pearl stratus
#

Since the meta is still about controlling the pace of the match.

fresh turret
#

yeah

pearl stratus
#

Which Eqo does better.

#

But in terms of 1:1 skill. SDB is the better Genji.

fresh turret
#

Also Philly is stupidly aggressive sometimes although they have been getting better

#

so that too

pearl stratus
#

But like the coaches are all starting to learn.

#

The best player isn't always the best teammate.

fresh turret
#

yepp

pearl stratus
#

Philly's style is to be aggressive.

civic marsh
#

cough akm cough

indigo barn
#

Boston was pretty damn aggressive vs Houston

#

They fought in Houston’s face

fresh turret
#

yeah

pearl stratus
#

Boston changed their entire style for that match.

#

Thats what was scary about Boston.

indigo barn
#

Houston didn’t know at to do

pearl stratus
#

They went from standard dive to a completely different team.

#

Striker on a random Junkrat, etc.

#

They basically played Houston as Houston.

fresh turret
#

it felt liike they cranked the volume of their dive from 1 to 1000

pearl stratus
#

No way you can prepare for that.

indigo barn
#

Jake keeps meeting junkrats

#

Who rek him

pearl stratus
#

Striker never actually wrecked Jake.

#

They basically sat on opposite sides.

indigo barn
#

Does Jake even get kills with his tire anymore

pearl stratus
#

Ask London.

#

XD

indigo barn
#

Profit will mentor jake

#

Or libero even

pearl stratus
#

Tires haven't been getting kills in OWL this stage in general.

#

The teams have gotten better at scattering.

indigo barn
#

Show him the true ways of the nunkrat

pearl stratus
#

And none of the maps are super clustered.

indigo barn
#

Yeah bdosin doesn’t really like tires

fresh turret
#

yeah but he also gets fucked by tires every now and then

#

we all do tho

#

also uhh

#

Jakefour might be my new favorite thing

#

also also

#

I want to see Lucio

#

he isn't getting enough play imoi

#

well he is

pearl stratus
#

Sombra meta.

fresh turret
#

yeah....

pearl stratus
#

Lucio goes from amping it up

#

To Stephen Hawking

#

Real quick when Sombra is around

fresh turret
#

you said it better

pearl stratus
#

I'm actually interested in seeing Jakes Sombra develo.

#

*develop

#

Because its not bad right now.

fresh turret
#

but fucking hell Lucio's so fun to watch I just mhmhh

#

yeah Jake Somrba

#

might be cool

#

I like Outlaws a lot

pearl stratus
#

He's a smart enough player for it.

fresh turret
#

so definitely interested in that

#

but but

#

he's mad

#

becaue

#

he

#

is

pearl stratus
#

All I'm saying is.

fresh turret
#

ba

pearl stratus
#

If you make fun of jake.

#

Or beat jake.

#

You're not in the OWL.

#

2/2 so far.

#

Just throwing that out there.

fresh turret
#

okay well

#

I don't actually think Jake's bad

#

or even below average

pearl stratus
#

I do.

fresh turret
#

I just love the meme

indigo barn
#

Jake has to do good bc he has to defend his name

pearl stratus
#

He's mechanically one of the worse player in the league.

indigo barn
#

Yuo

#

Yup

pearl stratus
#

But he's smart, and makes it work for him.

#

Similar to Seagull, tbf.

fresh turret
#

how exactly can bad mechanical skill from him be seen?

indigo barn
#

I followed Jake since the World Cup

#

That’s y I’m outlaws fan baby

pearl stratus
#

It's mostly seen in his understanding of Tracer.

#

And his blinking/recalling habits.

fresh turret
#

I got into OW esports at around week 2 stage 1 OWL, so not much background

indigo barn
#

Jakes tracer at first was

#

SPAM BLINKS

#

TECALL NOW

fresh turret
#

A GARBAGE DISPOSAL

pearl stratus
#

Not even damaged? Better use recall.

indigo barn
#

yup

pearl stratus
#

Might as well recall onto my pulse bomb now!

fresh turret
#

HE IS A LUMPSTER DUMPSTER BUMPSTER

#

okay I'll stop with the spam

#

from someone brand new I can tell you that Fleta, Libero and Jjonak have impressed me out of the flex DPS'

civic marsh
#

jjonak flex dps 🤔

fresh turret
#

what else do you call that mad fool

#

fool in the nicest way possible

civic marsh
#

a support who does lots of damage

pearl stratus
#

Or is it a DPS who does a little support.

fresh turret
#

24% team damage done is a stat I'll never forget

pearl stratus
#

I'd argue the latter since he got Zen nerfed.

fresh turret
#

pretty much yeah

pearl stratus
#

Though Bdosin is low key just about as good as Jjonak.

#

It's just rarely mentioned.

fresh turret
#

he did 24% team dmg over a whole match

#

I think Bdosin gets less room to work with

#

he isn't pocketed as much and he tends to get dove

#

London just hasn't overall been looking good

#

lately

pearl stratus
#

I always laugh when Ark is out and just damage boosting Jjonak.

fresh turret
#

yeah it's rly funny

#

the nano boost too

#

happens rarely but

#

it's a treat when it happens

#

are there any OWL players in this server actually?

silk linden
#

nah

limber pine
#

we scare them

fresh turret
#

not surprising

forest jackal
#

tbh the biggest thing that surprises me about the whole kazper drama is the fact that people actually give that much of a shit about OWL

silk linden
#

at most they might turn up in their team's servers from time to time

forest jackal
#

or that anyone treats OWL players like celebs

fresh turret
#

why wouldn't they?

silk linden
#

it's not people "treating them like celebs". They are celebs

pearl stratus
#

"None of that dampened the ardor of Ben Mascioli, 26, who took the concept of fusion literally and popped the question to his longtime girlfriend and fellow gamer, Caitlin Jaworski, 24.

“Will you be the Mercy to my Genji?” he asked, referring to two popular Overwatch​ characters."

#

This is why I judge women.

#

I wouldn't say yes to that proposal.

#

Thats a horrible proposal.

silk linden
#

I mean, if she accepted, she's into it

pearl stratus
#

Yeah, and he's a Genji.

silk linden
#

they're on the same shitty wavelength

pearl stratus
#

Obviously her standards are low.

#

But these two will probably have kids.

silk linden
#

anyway, not the place for that

pearl stratus
#

And it'll be some useless shit torbjorn.

fresh turret
#

lmao

pearl stratus
#

Actually its from the article on pro egaming and the growth of the league from Philly 😛

#

So it is in line.

#

Boom.

forest jackal
#

@fresh turret because like 5 people watch the OWL

limber pine
#

you're joking right?

deft valley
#

e-gamers

#

well I guess some people play tabletop

silk linden
#

sports are games

#

so technically footballers are gamers

deft valley
#

no one calls traditional athletes gamers though

silk linden
#

(also most of them actually are gamers)

deft valley
#

i think someone just messed up in editing

limber pine
#

e-gamers play e-games

forest wharf
silk linden
#

or someone just is unfamiliar with the terms

limber pine
#

that aged well

deft valley
#

which is why they messed up
an editor's job is to check the terms

silk linden
#

Boston was legit the most drama free org up until that point

vagrant jacinth
#

well

pearl stratus
#

Dreamkazpers women didn't @limber pine

limber pine
#

oof

pearl stratus
#

YOU CAN'T LEAVE THAT OPEN AND NOT EXPECT THE RESPONSE.

limber pine
#

ik what was i thinking

forest wharf
#

Lol

pearl stratus
#

You were thinking like you were a perfect setter for my spike.

#

And I appreciate your support.

silk linden
#

yeah I've responded to the "aged well" comment the same way before, it's standard

deft valley
#

the fuck does that even mean

#

like outside of the recent context even

#

that doesn't make any sense

#

is that "captured"?

silk linden
#

I can't rewatch the video of him complimenting geguri now. Will make me want to travel to LA to keep her safe personally

vagrant jacinth
#

i guess they meant it like "you captured my heart"?

deft valley
#

that's not even close though

#

i mean
geguri is an adult at least

silk linden
#

barely

fresh turret
#

cmon man

forest wharf
#

Yea that video is even more cringy now

balmy wolf
#

Lol

pearl stratus
#

Also I'm going to be the mean guy to say this.

#

But Geguri is probably safe

#

Because she looks like a beanbag chair with glasses.

#

Just kind of lumpy.

balmy wolf
#

No shit

vestal kettle
#

DreamKozby

balmy wolf
#

Wait what

silk linden
#

yeah but she's hardly the least attractive person in the OWL

balmy wolf
#

Bruh she's cute

#

I prefer her old hairstyle tho

fresh turret
#

what does Geguri sound like actually? I haven't heard her since well chinese/korean comms aren't exactly gonna be played on OWL

balmy wolf
#

Just go to her stream

deft valley
#

she's probably safe because she's too old tbh

balmy wolf
#

^

oak schooner
#

🤔

balmy wolf
fresh turret
#

aight

pearl stratus
#

I mean yeah, there's uh.

#

Logixx

#

And Taimou.

#

Taimou looks like the bad guy on Criminal Minds.

#

If they found bodies in his apartment I wouldn't be surprised.

fresh turret
#

Taimou is sexy don't you dare disrespect my fellow finn

silk linden
#

HoustonOutlaws hogging all the Chads

forest wharf
#

I just want a taimou dramatic reading

deft valley
#

implying Philly isn't Chad Central

fresh turret
#

Philly has some good chads but

silk linden
#

Is there any player literally named Chad?

fresh turret
#

I gotta go with NYXL

silk linden
#

lemme check

fresh turret
#

it's koreans and chads

balmy wolf
#

Sanfran has chads

fresh turret
#

what else do you need

silk linden
#

prob not, not many US players in general

fresh turret
#

Sanfran also has some fuckin chads

balmy wolf
#

I don't think so

pearl stratus
#

NYXL is a K-Pop band

#

That refuses to drop their new album.

silk linden
#

Bunny's last name is Chae, close enough

pearl stratus
#

I mean Shadowburn has benched himself.

#

It's good enough.

balmy wolf
halcyon chasm
#

ngl?

#

???????????????

deft valley
#

??????????

balmy wolf
#

NOt gonna lie

deft valley
#

not gonna lie

silk linden
#

see, it's not about physical appearance. If you play a mean Genji ladies will fancy you even if you look like a dead fish

pearl stratus
#

He was the one who leaked the Eqo video to get some playtime.

fresh turret
#

How'd he bench himself exactly?

forest wharf
#

Oohhh xqc gonna talk about dk on stream

pearl stratus
#

By having a two hero pool.

#

This is 2018.

#

You need at least 5!

nova pelican
#

kazper not aesthetically hot but his genji and pharah and widow very hot

halcyon chasm
#

never heard ngl lol

forest wharf
#

🍿

deft valley
#

here comes the intellectual argument

balmy wolf
fresh turret
#

idk I feel wrong talking about kazper in this situation but uhh

pearl stratus
#

Kazper looks stereotypical. Like you'd touch his hair and scrape it in a pan.

#

And you could cook chicken.

deft valley
#

@pearl stratus unless you play tracer KaplanThink

pearl stratus
#

Cause that dude is straight greasy.

nova pelican
#

true it looks like he legit greases his hair

pearl stratus
#

Or just never washes it.

fresh turret
#

I like myself a bit of that sweden charm from FL

pearl stratus
#

That looks like the 13 day no shower.

nova pelican
#

you like that meaty cwoosh

halcyon chasm
#

FL?

pearl stratus
#

Cwoosh is prepping for that bench life.

nova pelican
#

yeah he's probs worst tank second only to ones in shanghai

forest wharf
#

Fragi 2thicc5me

fresh turret
#

Cwoosh isn't good but he has personality

#

like the rest of FL tho they have been stepping yp

#

u

balmy wolf
#

HA GAAY!

fresh turret
#

p

#

stahp

pearl stratus
#

FL is getting Awesomeguy.

nova pelican
#

sayaplayer is a pretty good widow

pearl stratus
#

No reason to ever play Cwoosh again.

nova pelican
#

wonder if all these benched players will leave to join new teams in season 2

deft valley
#

well there will be an expansion

#

which means more roster spaces
so possibly

#

but they may well get edged out there too

forest wharf
deft valley
#

less shitposting plskthx

stuck meadow
#

Rip Dream Kazper

halcyon chasm
#

why not just link to twitter?

balmy wolf
#

Well then

#

That was fast

deft valley
#

yep

stuck meadow
#

@halcyon chasm Cause I used gyazo

deft valley
#

that's not a reason

balmy wolf
#

But it's just twitter

#

Literally easier with a link

halcyon chasm
nova pelican
#

rip

stuck meadow
#

Pressing ctrl + shift is not hard

#

but ok

balmy wolf
#

Well then

deft valley
#

pressing ctrl-c is easier and more useful

forest wharf
#

annnndddd hes out

deft valley
#

yep

nova pelican
#

wonder if I can snag a kazper jersey

#

they're gonna be rare

stuck meadow
#

Yeah

#

you dont want anyone to see you with it tho

warm quartz
#

He was terminated?

nova pelican
#

it'll be a somber reminder to everyone

stuck meadow
#

Yes

errant kayak
#

Yep

warm quartz
#

Huzzah fuckers.

deft valley
#

he was terminator'd

warm quartz
#

Is it in esports announce

silk linden
#

that was fast

deft valley
#

not yet

nova pelican
#

i hope mistakes can play widow

stuck meadow
#

Mistakes be searchin up how to get good at widow in 3 days

civic marsh
#

🚓 🚓 🚓

deft valley
#

he played widow for russia

#

he wasn't great though

balmy wolf
#

Nice try

silk linden
#

3rd player to get terminated, and it was for increasingly bad reasons

balmy wolf
#

He's known to have played widow decently

silk linden
#

I quiver thinking what's next

deft valley
#

wait who's #2

nova pelican
#

they might put striker on widow and mistakes on tracer

balmy wolf
#

What he should focus on is pharah

silk linden
#

actually no I guess there was envy too

torpid charm
#

drama keeps escalating

silk linden
#

@deft valley undad

stuck meadow
#

@balmy wolf yeah no lol

deft valley
#

ah

#

right

civic marsh
#

stage 4: turns out chips is a serial killer

torpid charm
#

Undad zaryalol

stuck meadow
#

His widow looks like AKM's bruh 🤢

warm quartz
#

No jjonak is a serial killer

#

But we already knew that

torpid charm
#

Effect is gonna murder somebody by stage 4

silk linden
#

please anyone but Jjonak

#

please

#

fucking please

stuck meadow
#

He already murdered SHD

#

lmao

warm quartz
#

thats why

pearl stratus
#

For the Mistake question.

#

He has an acceptable Widow.

#

But not a great one.

hazy arrow
#

Wonder how much Boston know

ornate fossil
#

yoikes

pearl stratus
#

You'll wonder forever.

silk linden
#

everyone will turn out to be a scumbag until the only players left in the league will be Mickie and Seagull

nova pelican
#

im fine with this

forest wharf
#

sbb is 100% pure

warm quartz
#

Just dont defend the girl and kasper, one or the other only. Both are at fault. Thanks

nova pelican
#

if anything happens with surefour imma have to stop watching overwatch league

warm quartz
#

She had to have been semi-Involved. Wonderful. Good acting honey!

pearl stratus
#

Also its a Kraft organization.

#

This wasn't going to take a long time for them to come to a decision.

#

But most e-people wouldn't know that.

south quest
#

@warm quartz ...

stuck meadow
#

Tf r u even saying temp

deft valley
#

jesus what lol

stuck meadow
#

Like I agree with you but like tf u sayin bro

pearl stratus
#

What Temp is saying, angrily, is that people are still white knighting her when both parties were clearly wrong.

#

14 isn't a victim, just an underaged thot.

warm quartz
#

I’m not defending her ass lol. She’s also at fault and not the innocent little girl the media and community are making her out to be

stuck meadow
#

No I mean the last thing he said

#

It sounded so weird lol

#

But yeah I agree man

deft valley
#

there is "being annoying" wrong and there is "being a fucking pedo" wrong though

south quest
#

guys...he's an adult. The burden is on him to make sure that nothing inappropriate happens. Regardless of what she did or said.

pearl stratus
#

I just hope the rest of the OWL is smart enough to realize that she's basically herpes.

deft valley
#

yes she absolutely is a victim lmao

pearl stratus
#

And not to touch her.

warm quartz
#

She’s was well aware of what she was doing. That’s been proven based on her other behaviors. She’s just as at fault as he is.

pearl stratus
#

And by touch I mean communicate in any way.

nova pelican
#

certainly not innocent the bitch went our of her way to sabotage

stuck meadow
#

Trust me

deft valley
#

her character has nothing to do with that

stuck meadow
#

No one is gonna want to be associated with THAT

nova pelican
#

please someone just get her dumb ass off of Twitter

warm quartz
#

I’m just sick of her getting all this defense and that she’s innocent when she clearly isnt.

stuck meadow
#

Im still so disappoint in DK tho

deft valley
#

yes, clearly what we should do is call her a thot and a whore

warm quartz
#

I’m not a fool. I’ve been assaulted 3 times without say in it.

stuck meadow
#

let one thot ruin his career

#

how fucking sad

deft valley
#

that's much better

hazy arrow
#

Outlaws players may not block her on Tw, but surely shes not meeting them ever

forest wharf
#

doesnt matter if she jailbaited him or whatever, hes the adult fucking with a minor still

stuck meadow
#

no shit

deft valley
#

oh hey the first smart thing you've said today

civic marsh
#

shes a thot now? lolll

stuck meadow
#

but shes still a baiting thot

warm quartz
#

She’s not totally innocent though.

south quest
#

@AnomanderBaked#1049 absolutely

deft valley
#

who cares

#

she's the victim in this situation

warm quartz
#

She’s not suffering the massive consequences but she’s also not innocent

pearl stratus
#

I said she was one yesterday too. Both parties are at fault, she's not some magical princess victim.

deft valley
#

her character is irrelevant

nova pelican
#

she's not a victim

pearl stratus
#

I get that people want to be white knight creepy pedos.

stuck meadow
#

Of course shes the victim

#

Shes still at fault

deft valley
#

jesus fucking christ

warm quartz
#

RAPE CULTURE AT PLAY EVERYONE!

deft valley
#

i'm done with y'all peace

stuck meadow
#

Cool

nova pelican
#

she's old enough to know not to send nudes to old men

civic marsh
#

shes 14 and was exploited by someone in a position of power over her. of course she was a victim u strange people

warm quartz
#

14 is old enough to know better than to send nudes. She’s a freshman in high school. (If not older)

stuck meadow
#

Im sorry but if you're 14 and dont have common sense not to send nudes to someone whos obviously an adult

warm quartz
#

Its inexcusable.

stuck meadow
#

Plain and simple fam

limber pine
#

👀

civic marsh
#

he exploited her

stuck meadow
#

Yeah

#

and thats why hes gone

civic marsh
#

classic predator shit like making her feel indebted to him

#

she was a victim nuff said

warm quartz
#

And she should have known better IN THE FIRST PLACE

pearl stratus
#

Not every victim is innocent. You'll figure it out as you grow up.

nova pelican
#

she could have stopped talking to him at any time they're both at fault she's not a poor little girl

civic marsh
#

never said she was innocent

forest wharf
#

tried to DENNIS system the other girl too

pearl stratus
#

What he did was reprehensible and wrong.

stuck meadow
#

Then stop acting like she is bro

pearl stratus
#

But her character is completely in question too.

#

Because she should be a cautionary tale for anyone.

deft valley
#

Her character is irrelevant

civic marsh
#

it's just not correct to say she wasn't a victim

deft valley
#

to her being a victim

stuck meadow
#

@deft valley how exactly?

#

oh

warm quartz
#

She was a “victim” but she clearly had a hand in it also

stuck meadow
#

^

oak schooner
#

they are both garbage

stuck meadow
#

At the end of the day they were both retarded

pearl stratus
#

The reason why her character still matters is because, if we're going on face value (which we obviously are) she also said things like "Lol I'll save all this and destroy his career with one tweet"

stuck meadow
#

DK just being even more stupid

pearl stratus
#

That's a pre-planned sociopathic tendency.

forest wharf
#

you shouldnt need a caution to know not to fuck with minors lol

deft valley
#

stuck meadow
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When she said that Endo?

pearl stratus
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It does not, at any point, excuse what DK said.

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And did.

nova pelican
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she gets no sympathy from me should have been raised better

pearl stratus
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But no one should think that she's okay.

deft valley
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This should be the end of conversation

warm quartz
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And thats why the girl gets no defense from me besides “Yes she’s the victim. But she is no where near innocent.”

civic marsh
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in the immortal words of frank reynolds. don't diddle kids. it's no good diddling kids

limber pine
stuck meadow
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thanks we know ^

limber pine
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

balmy wolf
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When xqc says that you shouldn't meme about it monkaKasper

pearl stratus
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And honestly the first thing any current OWL player should do.

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Is block her.

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Just for their own sake.

balmy wolf
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^

pearl stratus
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That'd just be a smart move.

civic marsh
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operation begone thot activated

stuck meadow
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Or you know

balmy wolf
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KEK

stuck meadow
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Just dont talk to any kids

pearl stratus
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It's the internet.

stuck meadow
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Or you'll get that muta in prison

pearl stratus
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Everyone is a thirteen year old boy.

nova pelican
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most of their fans are kids you know

balmy wolf
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Or you don't diddle kids

warm quartz
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From one abuse victim to another. She was a fool and could have stopped at any time. She chose not to. That’s on her. Kasper should have stopped, and he didn’t.

stuck meadow
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@nova pelican Ok : Dont slide in the kids dm's

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That sound good?

nova pelican
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there you go

balmy wolf
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Where is senua

pearl stratus
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No ones arguing that. But from a player perspective I'd probably preemptively block anyone from a discord titled Hoeston Outsluts.

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Just because I'm not dumb about PR.

civic marsh
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did these guys not learn from all the korean e girl drama

hazy arrow
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Both are idiots, although only one will pay for it

nova pelican
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beware of egirls

stuck meadow
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Sorry im not into korean drama

pearl stratus
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You don't learn until someone you know fucks up their life most of the time, I've found.

warm quartz
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She ruined her reputation in the ow community

pearl stratus
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Then it kind of hits home.

civic marsh
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she didn't have a reputation in the ow community, she's just a random fangirl

warm quartz
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I’d say her being discredited everywhere in ow is punishment enough.

pearl stratus
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Most of these kids are riding a huge high of the world is amazing since they're all signed to teams playing OW professionally.

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Then reality hits.

warm quartz
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Any reputation she had

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Is wiped away

pearl stratus
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I mean her reputation was a second twitter where she linked porn.

deft valley
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what reputation

pearl stratus
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The reputation wasn't great to begin with 😛

stuck meadow
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Wtf

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How ya found that lol

warm quartz
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As i said, any reputation she had whatsoever.

pearl stratus
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It got leaked right away Suicide, lol

stuck meadow
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The internet is great

pearl stratus
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And then she deleted all the content on the other twitter.

warm quartz
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It’s now discredited and i HOPE she gets denied from college because of this foolishness

hazy arrow
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what reputation? you mean "the brave girl who stood up against that monster? YOU GO GIRLLL, IM SO PROUD OF YOU!!!"

pearl stratus
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She won't get denied from college, it'll fade in three years.

warm quartz
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That would be an excellent punishment

pearl stratus
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But someone will google her and find it eventually.

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And she'll get shamed again at some point, etc.

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It's a cycle.

nova pelican
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so brave we need more little girls like her to send nudes to old guys to expose them

stuck meadow
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I mean

deft valley
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for.. exposing someone being a creep?

warm quartz
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This will follow her forever

stuck meadow
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She can completely leave her twitter

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And create a new one

deft valley
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that's what the punishment is for?

warm quartz
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For her not stopping it

stuck meadow
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And just start off new

unborn portal
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He is a creeper no doubt but I don’t know how she could possibly go from “this is ok” to “not it’s not ok”

hazy arrow
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her: Im going to be off twitter for a week

pearl stratus
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My guess is he dumped her.

unborn portal
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But she doesn’t deserved to get barred from college.

hazy arrow
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also her: lol just kidding

nova pelican
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she couldn't stay away from all the attention

pearl stratus
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My honest guess is that DK did something really stupid and tried to backtrack.

stuck meadow
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Common E-whore

warm quartz
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She deserves to have it follow her for the rest of her life. Even if in short spurts

pearl stratus
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And it pissed her off.

unborn portal
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Girls don’t want that kind of attention wtf are you talking about

forest jackal
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I mean

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tbh

nova pelican
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yes they do buddy

warm quartz
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Thats punishment enough in my opinion.