esports-discussion

[idle beacon]

did ANYONE saw a pic of that 14 yo kid ?

[cerulean ridge]

We don't know if she was some kind of porn addict then, not that it matters either

[balmy wolf]

What is that equation supposed to be @slim summit lol

[supple crow]

yeah me

[cerulean ridge]

Yeah, she looked underage

[supple crow]

she looked younger than 14

[idle beacon]

@supple crow u sure?

[slim summit]

that's the formula for determining who is age appropriate to have sex with

[forest jackal]

theres ZERO justifiable excuse for someone that is 20+ with the power and influence of an OWL player to be talking in this way to a 14 year old girl

[supple crow]

yeah her pics was still up 15 hours ago

[forest jackal]

100 percent fucked up

[cerulean ridge]

She looked anywhere from 13-18 IMO

[rain pewter]

i think all of us can agree on that

[forest jackal]

yes but he knew

[cerulean ridge]

But that's irrelevant

[forest jackal]

yeah

[rain pewter]

i am just saying

[twilit forum]

age of consent laws are maybe allowing intercourse between 16 years olds but that does NOT mean

[idle beacon]

she sayin she's 14 yo on that lily acc, being 15 on that other acc .. lookin like 12 .. i dont know man .. this seems all cocky to me

[twilit forum]

you can produce illegal content

[rain pewter]

when you say something like it's ok for 14 yos to have sex with each other

[twilit forum]

like nudes or pornography

[rain pewter]

it just goes downhill from there

even if the discussion is in good faith

[forest jackal]

also age of consent laws dont apply when you are in a position of power or authority

IE

in NJ age of consent is 16

[slim summit]

@balmy wolf https://xkcd.com/314/

xkcd: Dating Pools

The full analysis is of course much more complicated, but I can't stay to talk about it because I have a date.

[magic zinc]

In other news

[pearl stratus]

Yeah but NJ is a garbage state.

[forest jackal]

but if you are a teacher or a coach or something, then yeaaah that doesnt apply

[pearl stratus]

We don't look to NJ for anything.

[magic zinc]

More countries get tokens now :D

[clever trout]

well i say i'm 28 but my birthday is in october so sometimes i say i'm 29....

[pearl stratus]

Except making other states not look like ass.

[balmy wolf]

So by that logic @slim summit no one under 20 should have sex ever lmao

[forest jackal]

@pearl stratus People shit on NJ for no reason

[cerulean ridge]

They aren't breaking laws, it's a slippery slope but it's one of those "What can you do type of situations", when two 14 year olds want to have sex?

[magic zinc]

Cant watch live anyway though lmaooo

[balmy wolf]

Smh

[forest jackal]

It's a decent state

[pearl stratus]

Because its the asshole of america?

[twilit forum]

14 year olds having sex is nothing new

[slim summit]

no, that would make 20's lower bound 17

[forest jackal]

with some silly laws

[twilit forum]

but this isnt the point

[slim summit]

because 20 / 2 = 10 + 7 = 17

[cerulean ridge]

Just educate them and make sure they don't fuck themselves up

[slim summit]

math

[balmy wolf]

Smh

[pearl stratus]

But then 20 and 17 is okay.

YOUR MATH IS FLAWED AND ILLEGAL.

[forest jackal]

20 and 17 is ok in most states

tho

[fresh turret]

in my country it's pretty much "at 16 you can bang anyone but I guess you can bang with other less than 16 yos as long as you're not olderthan 16 wtf is this law"

[slim summit]

lol

[clever trout]

well there is also psychological development

[twilit forum]

pretty sure theres a 4 year diff law

[slim summit]

depends on the states

[forest jackal]

yeah

[balmy wolf]

14 is legal to marry in some countries

[pearl stratus]

Also depends on the parents.

[forest jackal]

14 is 100% not okay anywhere tho

[twilit forum]

14 to marry

[forest jackal]

if ur over 18

[twilit forum]

is a big yoioioioikes

from me dog

[pearl stratus]

Since 17 isn't legally even a person, a parent can still push for statutory charges if they want to.

[clever trout]

and vatican had the age of 12 as consent until like 2 months ago. what's the point

or was it 14 idk

[forest jackal]

my point is that, what he did was like 100% not okay

[cerulean ridge]

Appe, I think that law is more of a "don't diddle kids, but it's also a little ridiculous that a 16 y/o can get in trouble for having a sex with a 15y/o but we're not going to define every situation in which we think this is ok so just figure it out"

[forest jackal]

he should've just waited until 16

then it'd be creepy

[pearl stratus]

No one is arguing it is okay.

[idle beacon]

x:\Ogg's\Soundtracks\Blizzard\World of Warcraft - Cataclysm17 Blizzard - Nightsong.ogg ❤ ❤ ❤

[forest jackal]

but not illegal

imo

[clever trout]

so is mine but people always go for the "lol dat's legal in SOME countries"

[pearl stratus]

I think at most we're arguing how fucked he is, and how fucked she is.

[forest jackal]

I mean

[balmy wolf]

This is quickly becoming a morality arguement tbh

[forest jackal]

I dont rly think she did anything wrong here

She seemed like a HUGE fan of OWL

[idle beacon]

can we talk about upcoming matches?

[forest jackal]

no

[balmy wolf]

Did Dream ask for nudes

[pearl stratus]

Well most people are white knighting her pretty badly.

[idle beacon]

this OWL reality show crap is getting fuckin BORING

[forest jackal]

this is philosophy general now

[pearl stratus]

All her shit is going to get dragged into the mud anyway.

It's going to be interesting af.

[cerulean ridge]

IDC if she's some kind of puritan or a porn addict, she's not a public figure so her personality is irrelevant

[rain pewter]

i mean, if you're living in some really impoverished place in africa and people are fucking and having kids at 15? it's a lot different than 2 kids marrying each other in america

[clever trout]

go nyxl ?

[rain pewter]

so i don't think the "it's legal in some countries" is a good take

[forest jackal]

go CG

[slim summit]

there's not really any interesting matches coming up on wednesday

[forest jackal]

fuck TSM

[torpid charm]

[forest jackal]

wait

fuck

wrong esport

[slim summit]

0-4 0-4 0-4

[idle beacon]

@rain pewter dumb statement

[pearl stratus]

LoL has better drama.

[cerulean ridge]

I like everything about NYXL except the fact that they're NYXL

[pearl stratus]

Didn't a LoL player just have his brother murder his parents?

Just wait till OW gets that.

[balmy wolf]

Lmao

[twilit forum]

its legal in other countries as an excuse is horrid

[slim summit]

If Fuel beats Seoul can we finally stop pretending Seoul is a good team?

[twilit forum]

look at the middle east

thats an omegalul

[idle beacon]

@pearl stratus lol what?

[rain pewter]

@twilit forum yeah

[pearl stratus]

https://compete.kotaku.com/league-of-legends-stars-brother-charged-with-stabbing-t-1824256090

LoL has better drama.

They have murder.

[cerulean ridge]

Seoul is a good team still, but they're just not as good as most expected.

OWL will have murder guys

[clever trout]

rooting for that married man

[supple crow]

what the fuck

[forest jackal]

thats crazy as fuck

😦

poor DL

[balmy wolf]

Legality and morality aren't one in the same

[cerulean ridge]

Bren is going to go full Brenji IRL

[idle beacon]

now what the fuck is that?

[twilit forum]

doublelift then went to win the finals later

[fresh turret]

@cerulean ridge yeah it's p much like that, up to the fucccpeople what they do

[twilit forum]

can you imagine

[balmy wolf]

OWL is an international thing right?

[twilit forum]

your mom got murdered

then you win the finals

and he popped off too

[pearl stratus]

Well you dedicate it to her.

[twilit forum]

what a madlad

[pearl stratus]

And play super well.

Duh.

[clever trout]

omg i can't

[rain pewter]

OWL is international to anywhere that's within the reach of blizzard

[pearl stratus]

This is why when people say this is horrible for OWL, its really not.

[cerulean ridge]

Props to doublelift for staying strong through this

[pearl stratus]

Since almost all of you hadn't even heard of a MURDER from LoL.

This will be big internally.

[cerulean ridge]

Dude has a strong mind on his shoulders

[pearl stratus]

And then forgotten about in a month or two.

[cerulean ridge]

Hope he gets through this fine

[forest jackal]

tbh its not like an actual esports persona is involved as the perpetrator

[supple crow]

it will only be forgotten if DK is kciked out

[balmy wolf]

So with that logic if say someones from germany where 16 is legal aoc and they get caught doing so in OWL is that grounds for a bann?

[pearl stratus]

DK is going to be kicked out.

[supple crow]

if he isnt then the media will keep repeating it over and over

[pearl stratus]

Indefinite suspension is saying released really nicely.

[rain pewter]

if you say germany that's one thing

that's what i am saying

[cerulean ridge]

Dream just got suspended indefinitely when the allegations arose

[rain pewter]

because germany is a developed country

[twilit forum]

in germany nudes of 16 years old are still illegal content

[pearl stratus]

They're just following due process and performing an investigation.

Because they have to.

[rain pewter]

if you're saying a place like guinea or whatever

that's a totally different situation

[pearl stratus]

But he's going to be released the second they're done.

Boston is handling this in A+ process.

[cerulean ridge]

If there's even a bit of truth to this case OWL is gonna ditch dream in a heartbeat

[pearl stratus]

Even if there's not.

He's done either way.

We could find out absolutely everything was faked.

He's stilldone.

[fresh turret]

sad really

[idle beacon]

he'll convert to another game

[twilit forum]

if its still done

[idle beacon]

np

[twilit forum]

then he will just press massive charges

[cerulean ridge]

Nah, I think he can definitely recover if it turns out to be 100% fake

[twilit forum]

on that girl

[pearl stratus]

He will, against her.

[twilit forum]

for libel

he will win

[pearl stratus]

Which is fine, and should happen.

But thats a big IF.

[balmy wolf]

Ofc pounding under 18 nudes is illegal everywhere but afaik none of this even true

[idle beacon]

@cerulean ridge how can it be 100% fake?

[fresh turret]

it's not about winning it's about finding the truth and reaching a conclusion

[pearl stratus]

You can fake DMs etc crazy easily.

[fresh turret]

that's some Ace Attorney shit

[pearl stratus]

You can fake text message logs, etc.

[cerulean ridge]

Basically it turns out either they found some way to fake all the DMs, pics, etc.

[twilit forum]

html edit is one hell of a drug

[pearl stratus]

It's why none of this matters without any validation.

[rain pewter]

there's a gif of her scrolling up DMs

that part is hard to fake

[pearl stratus]

You can precreate a conversation.

[clever trout]

eh i still think that if didn't happen he could return to esports in like a year or two

[pearl stratus]

And just scroll through it.

[rain pewter]

but that didn't include the "14 years old" thing

[pearl stratus]

I could do it in about 30 minutes.

[cerulean ridge]

And it turns out Dream never actually did anything inappropriate with a fan, especially an underage one

If that's the case, he can definitely recover

[pearl stratus]

Not in the league.

He'd be done in the league either way.

Think of rapists who get exonerated after the fact.

They don't recover.

[cerulean ridge]

But that's a big uncertainty

[idle beacon]

@rain pewter how are you recording that? recording a clip of you scrolling through screens? .. i wanna know how to do that with my phone, pls

[clever trout]

ok but he's not exactly a rapist

[pearl stratus]

It doesn't matter.

[cerulean ridge]

Most of those falsely accused rapists are low profile

[rain pewter]

if they actually precreated that conversation and even getting the timestamps right that's something else

[pearl stratus]

Charges like this stick to the person.

[balmy wolf]

I mean to be clear i in no way am saying what he did was alright, he did say some pretty creepy things to her and made unwanted advancements

[clever trout]

he would be knows as the guy who got slandered if he was a case for deflamation

[pearl stratus]

And either way what he said was creepy.

So the doubt will always be there.

[clever trout]

wtf is my typing

*known and *won

[balmy wolf]

But if she let it happen and even tried to encourage the behavior it would seem more like entrapment to me

But that's my opinion

[pearl stratus]

That part just fucks her life more, he still fell for it.

So he's still in the wrong.

[cerulean ridge]

They're guys who were basically nobodies before, so when the allegations come out everyone can get the scoop and ditch him, and when he's exonorated there's just no way to bury the media attention that was once there cause they have no media presence.

[slim summit]

all you have to do to record the screen is open the control center and hit the record button

[fresh turret]

I remember when in a smaller esport a top player sexually harassed a female community member at EVO, the player was suspended from all tournaments for a year. There is of course the fact of this harassment target not being underage, but this was physical so it's a comparison if not a good one

[slim summit]

it's super easy

[pearl stratus]

I'm not joking, I expect a huge rant from her in a week or two when she gets ostracized by all the communities.

And is confused on why.

[cerulean ridge]

But Dreamkazper has a league, team and fanbase behind him if he's innocent

[fresh turret]

all of those are weakened in faith for him

[pearl stratus]

I appreciate that, but it still won't help honestly.

[rain pewter]

i kinda remember that one too but i forgot the names @fresh turret

[pearl stratus]

Because the base comments are creepy in themselves.

[fresh turret]

Smash 4

[balmy wolf]

Tbf they have been friends for at least a month now

[pearl stratus]

There will always be a 'Maybe' in peoples minds.

[fresh turret]

Hyuga and V1kkikitty

@rain pewter

[pearl stratus]

And from a PR perspective, its not worth keeping him.

[cerulean ridge]

If it somehow turns out he was innocent, OWL will do everything in their power to tout that the player associated with them was indeed innocent, and therefore there is nothing they can be stuck with.

[clever trout]

well even if the base comments aren't fake then i don't feel bad for him

[fresh turret]

If we are talking about the same thing

[balmy wolf]

She obviously waited so long for the express purpose of incriminating him and ruining his career

[hexed jay]

Entrapment is only illegal if the government does it

[pearl stratus]

Oh yeah, they'll tell the whole world he was innocent.

But he'll still be out of the league, lol

[rain pewter]

...i might have been thinking about someone else as i don't really find those names familiar

but again, i didn't remember the names so

[clever trout]

lol she didn't wait THAT long

[hexed jay]

Only like 4 months

[balmy wolf]

It's been over a month

[fresh turret]

aight then

[cerulean ridge]

If he's innocent and he still gets kicked he'd be able to sue for wrongful termination though, right?

[clever trout]

it's not 4 months

[fresh turret]

I don't think he would sue

[pearl stratus]

No, the messages themselves probably still violate a PR clause.

[twilit forum]

suing a multi billion company

[balmy wolf]

Or 4 if tummy is more informed thab mr

[hexed jay]

Probs not those owl player contracts are terrible

[pearl stratus]

They have a social media clause in their contracts.

[twilit forum]

thats an omegalul

[fresh turret]

He probably feels bad for the PR damage and doesn't want more trouble

[rain pewter]

where's that OWL rulebook

[pearl stratus]

The rulebook has crazy social media rules.

[cerulean ridge]

True, I guess it does depend a lot on how all the parties involved respond to this stuff afterwards

[pearl stratus]

They can release him just on that.

[twin dove]

people joke about people selling their souls.....they've never seen that OWL contract

lol

[cerulean ridge]

https://rlewisreports.com/release-of-owl-rulebook/

[pearl stratus]

His career is fucked whether he is legally or not.

[cerulean ridge]

https://rlewisreports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/OWLRulebook.pdf

More specifically this

[clever trout]

she realised something was wrong only in the middle of february

judging by the screenshots

[fresh turret]

I don't think he'll want to play anyways if he was able to

[pearl stratus]

Also the people who are confused why Dreamkazper hasn't released a statement obviously don't remember who DK works for.

[hexed jay]

He works for the man

[balmy wolf]

Nope his new name is peenkazter after sending nudes to an underage

[limber pine]

DK staying silent is the best thing for him

[hexed jay]

How much of our $45m bit cheers went to the players?

[pearl stratus]

He works for the Kraft organization - the patriots have dealt with scandal/murderers etc.

[hexed jay]

The man always wins

[pearl stratus]

They know what they're doing at this point.

[twin dove]

shit Eqo got banned from streaming, Teams and OWL have control over ur life, u aint allowed to say shit till they let u haha

[pearl stratus]

Aaron Hernandez didn't make a statement for a while.

And he murdered a dude.

[hexed jay]

More like 3 dudes

4 including himself

[fresh turret]

it would be lovely if the rulebook didn't have a goddamn lens flare making it difficult to look at

[clever trout]

jj abrams works for owl

[cerulean ridge]

Ok, wait I'm reading the OWL CoC right now

[pearl stratus]

@clever trout Release wise it also looks like he realized a line got crosssed (judging by DM's) and he backed out and said they needed to just be friends.

Then she tweaked.

And leaked everything.

[cerulean ridge]

I don't see anything about not talking to fans

[pearl stratus]

Talking to fans is fine.

Sending them dick picks, not so much.

[cerulean ridge]

Obviously sexting them is off the table

[rain pewter]

owl rulebook, 6.3(b)

[pearl stratus]

Though burden of proof is still on her for that one.

[rain pewter]

that's enough

[clever trout]

well yeah but that's not 4 months. obviously she was not gonna do anything when she was into him.

[cerulean ridge]

Yeah, but what clause would he have violated in the unlikely event that all of this turns out to be fake?

[hexed jay]

What would you do if you found out your kid was sexting?

[pearl stratus]

Beat them.

[clever trout]

have a talk?

[cerulean ridge]

Tell them what is ok and what's not?

[pearl stratus]

I side with John Mulaney on this.

[white ingot]

not give a fuck lol

tbh

[pearl stratus]

Whenever a kids like "My moms my best friend" I just naturally assume she's a super bad mom.

[slim summit]

There couldn't be a least relevant problem to this group

[rain pewter]

first, gotta find out the context

and situation

[clever trout]

well i would give a fuck if it was a 21 year old dude

[slim summit]

You have to have sex to have children

[rain pewter]

12 yos sexting each other vs 21 yos sexting each other

bla bla bla

[cerulean ridge]

Easymac, miss me with that lewd shit

[white ingot]

or 12 sexting 21

[rain pewter]

yeah either way

[balmy wolf]

Omg my post pubescent child is sexting sends them to boarding school

[rain pewter]

context first

[white ingot]

^

[balmy wolf]

no just talk to them about the dangers of talking to people they dont know online lmao

[hexed jay]

Well 12 is pretty common age for sex Ed

[balmy wolf]

Inform them on how to be safe

[hexed jay]

12 is a kid. 13 starts the teens

[pearl stratus]

Depends on the state you're from.

[limber pine]

okay guys

[balmy wolf]

This is whats wrong with parents

[rain pewter]

i mean there's that but

[pearl stratus]

If you're from a garbage state they don't teach sex ed anymore.

[rain pewter]

my reaction on 12 yos and 21 yos doing that's completely different

[pearl stratus]

Just abstinence.

[limber pine]

we're veering off course

[white ingot]

#esports-discussion lol

[rain pewter]

oh

here's the lid

[balmy wolf]

Kek

[pearl stratus]

I say we go back to the LoL murders.

It's better drama anywa.

*anyway.

[cerulean ridge]

Also, about 6.3b from the CoC. If this all turns out to be fake, it would mean Dream has done nothing that brought the league/team into disrepute

[balmy wolf]

LoL murders?

[cerulean ridge]

That's not drama though

[pearl stratus]

Would you consider the brother an AD Carry at that point?

[cerulean ridge]

That's just sad

[fresh turret]

oh

too soon?

[cerulean ridge]

MONKAS

[hexed jay]

The lol thing is tangentially related at best

[pearl stratus]

I mean I'm just saying they have better drama.

[rain pewter]

i guess it depends on just how much is fake @cerulean ridge

if it's 100% fake DK is safe

[pearl stratus]

None of our drama is verified, so its really pretty boring.

[rain pewter]

but i find that extremely unlikely

[hexed jay]

NBA players have family members killed all the time

[cerulean ridge]

Yeah, I'm not counting on it either Harrason

[severe folio]

https://postimg.org/gallery/3jb6etf4g/

[fresh turret]

it's boring but this channel has had like a billion msgs today so

it's something

[rain pewter]

i am just feeding my attention span tbh

[severe folio]

Full collection of their conversations

[rain pewter]

even playing a game would've been better use of my time but

i chose to do this instead so

[cerulean ridge]

But what I'm kind of trying to find out is what they could do to him if it turns out to all be fake

[pearl stratus]

The best thing to come out of this was the Mistakes meme.

[cerulean ridge]

Eh, you do what you do

[pearl stratus]

Which is:

Mistakes Right Now:

https://i.redd.it/wyhlz5xs3tq01.png

[cerulean ridge]

Oh god

I loved that one

[fresh turret]

lmao

[rain pewter]

lmao

[torpid charm]

poor Mistakes

[pearl stratus]

Mistakes will be fine.

[torpid charm]

poor other Uprising bois

[pearl stratus]

He's a strong Sombra

[rain pewter]

i didn't get to see mistakes play much

[cerulean ridge]

TBH it should be mystery heroes instead of widow

[pearl stratus]

In a Sombra Meta

[fresh turret]

Mistakes will be fuck'd

[pearl stratus]

And his Widow actually isn't horrible.

[rain pewter]

oh

[cerulean ridge]

Dreams hero pool is massive

[torpid charm]

well he's training hard af rn I'm sure

[pearl stratus]

It is, but he primarily played Widow/Pharah/Genji.

[rain pewter]

he better count on that lol

[pearl stratus]

Mistakes has an "okay" Genji (we've seen it on Rt. 66), a really really good Sombra.

And a decent Widow.

[rain pewter]

if he's not training real hard rn he's probably going to get replaced very quickly

[pearl stratus]

They're going to lose out on the Pharah mostly.

[torpid charm]

sign me to Boston Uprising pls

[pearl stratus]

They can't replace him Harrason.

League signing period is over.

[rain pewter]

oh yeah

GG

[pearl stratus]

But we've seen Mistakes play 3-4 times now.

[rain pewter]

was that last week?

[pearl stratus]

And he always did well.

Yeah.

Look at what Danteh is doing atm.

That's going to be Mistakes basically.

[rain pewter]

then they're good

[cerulean ridge]

I've got a wild prediction that no one's buying

[pearl stratus]

They won't be as good as they are now.

[torpid charm]

jk nvm I'm not 18 yet

[cerulean ridge]

But I'l say it anyway

[pearl stratus]

But they're not going to be instantly dumpster.

[fresh turret]

say it

[pearl stratus]

They'll probably lose the next two matches.

[cerulean ridge]

Neko or Kalios will also start flexing to DPS

[rain pewter]

good like

they're okay

[torpid charm]

what does Snow play

[cerulean ridge]

Flex support

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, they'll still be better than Dallas, etc.

[fresh turret]

Neko could start flexing yeah

[pearl stratus]

Neko is too strong on support atm.

I think they'll just run Mistakes.

And hope he grows.

[cerulean ridge]

Boston's core is good enough that they could probably make a 5v6 competitive against Dallas and Shanghai

[pearl stratus]

Sombra + Tracer is a solid combo.

[fresh turret]

Running strictly sombra + tracer won't be enough

[cerulean ridge]

Neko on Zen is definiitely great value

He plays it so damn well

[torpid charm]

Striker's Tracer is really good so if Mistakes underperforms a bit it'll probably be fine as long as everyone else is playing well with their roles

[pearl stratus]

No, but like I said Mistakes can also play Genji and Widow.

[cerulean ridge]

Yeah, I know

[pearl stratus]

He won't play them to the same level as DK.

But he can play them.

His Widow did decent on Route 66 when he brought it out.

He also has a decent McCree, iirc.

[fresh turret]

I'll root for boston vs XL but otherwise I'll stick to my outlaws

[cerulean ridge]

Mistakes was mostly known for his Tracer/hitscan

[pearl stratus]

Yeah but Soldier is kind of whatever. Thats a gimme for everyone 😛

[steep dragon]

Guys did you read that 14 year old post

[cerulean ridge]

I'm just going to stick by Boston through it all, short of them saying "Yeah, we knew and we were cool with it"

[steep dragon]

That had me in tears lol

[pearl stratus]

I mean its Boston, next signing period they can fix whatever they need to.

Throw some Kraft money at it.

[steep dragon]

"I was in my most vulnerable "

[fresh turret]

get dose marketable players

[pearl stratus]

I'm waiting for Shanghai to wait for contracts to be up and just buy NYXL.

[fresh turret]

lmaoo

[pearl stratus]

Wing Dings has enough money he could do it easily.

[cerulean ridge]

What I appreciate the most about Boston was their ability to actually build a roster

[torpid charm]

[steep dragon]

Watch next year a 7 year old will say the same thing

[torpid charm]

[fresh turret]

where is flow3r atm?

[pearl stratus]

Contenders.

[slim summit]

Pine => Boston season 2

[torpid charm]

contenders

[cerulean ridge]

Only Philly and Boston really built teams from scratch, right?

[pearl stratus]

Actually I could see Pine doing REALLY well at Boston.

I think he'd get along with their Korean core.

[fresh turret]

meh

[pearl stratus]

And lets be honest.

[steep dragon]

Now the question is was flirting with a 14 year old worth it

[cerulean ridge]

PIne'd be nice, but IDK

[hexed jay]

SHD did too

[torpid charm]

no, a fair amount of players from Philly were with Faze and Giganti

[pearl stratus]

Once Flow3r is 18, Pine's never playing again.

[hexed jay]

If you consider that a team

[torpid charm]

idk how you spell it

[fresh turret]

Pine could do well but I don't think he's going anywhere

[cerulean ridge]

It's the mental issue that I'm worried about with Pine

[pearl stratus]

I mean Pine is a type of wood.

[cerulean ridge]

Pine can still get playtime over Fl0w3r

[pearl stratus]

And you use wood to make benches.

So it comes full circle.

[hexed jay]

Also rascal mental health too

[pearl stratus]

No, he can't.

SBB + Libero + Flower will be your DPS.

[cerulean ridge]

Having him OTP Ilios was worth it for NYXL

[pearl stratus]

You won't even want him to OTP at that point.

[torpid charm]

Rascal and Effect need to get off Dallas, those poor boys

[steep dragon]

I really dont think that guy who is suspended for thr 14 year old was justify

[cerulean ridge]

I think Libero's getting the boot from NYXL if flower comes in

[slim summit]

they stopped running Pine on Ilios when he got rekt by Birdring

[pearl stratus]

No he won't.

[cerulean ridge]

And Boston'd be perfect for him then

[pearl stratus]

Libero has a bigger hero pool at this point.

[cerulean ridge]

Really?

[pearl stratus]

And he's Lan tested.

[cerulean ridge]

IDK

[pearl stratus]

Libero's not going anywhere.

[cerulean ridge]

So is Flower though

[hexed jay]

Boston and NY best coaches IMO

[clever trout]

poor pine, i hope he's gonne get better mentally

[pearl stratus]

Tested on a few competitions != A full season.

[cerulean ridge]

3 seasons of APEX + OWWC + IEM Gyeonggi

[pearl stratus]

Remember Flower can't even play till Season 2.

He missed the cut off.

[cerulean ridge]

Yeah, I know

[steep dragon]

Read her statement about the situation comes across that she willingly did it

[pearl stratus]

Also Flow3r has looked basic as shit in contenders so far

Not to be mean to him.

But he has not really blown up at all.

Mangachu at least got a hammer kill on some kids with Torb.

[cerulean ridge]

But my secret hope now is NYXL get flower and then Boston gets Libero :)

[pearl stratus]

NYXL already has Flower.

[cerulean ridge]

Kind of a pipe dream

[hexed jay]

Nero and dalton are crazy

[pearl stratus]

And Boston is more likely to get Pine.

[cerulean ridge]

Yeah, I know

[pearl stratus]

Pine is their most useless player atm.

[cerulean ridge]

Yeah, but Dalton's like 16 now

[pearl stratus]

And even more redundant come Flower.

[steep dragon]

Honestly they should let the dream guy play

[cerulean ridge]

Flower on contenders isn't playing on LAN though

[pearl stratus]

Yeah but he's also not playing from Korea

He's in the states.

[cerulean ridge]

That reminds me

Nenne is 21

[slim summit]

Dream guy?

you mean sugar daddy dream?

[cerulean ridge]

And he's shitting on Tracers stateside in NA Contenders

[slim summit]

[pearl stratus]

The gap between contenders players and OWL players right now.

Is surprisingly larger than I expected.

[cerulean ridge]

Dude is a 100% no brainer for OWL

[clever trout]

please we were doing so well on the "ignore"

[pearl stratus]

Someone had to go tard.

And acknowledge him

[steep dragon]

[OWL] DreamKazper suspended indefinitely while the league investigates this matter

[pearl stratus]

It was only a matter of time.

[cerulean ridge]

Contenders is kind of a whole different ballpark though

[pearl stratus]

On the biggest plus side.

Diya is back.

[cerulean ridge]

Teams don't have the infrastructure to level up their game the way OWL does

[pearl stratus]

And with no undead

We can see Diya play Widow.

[cerulean ridge]

They're definitely going to look a lot weaker

[hexed jay]

Daemon looked incredibly bad

[cerulean ridge]

Diya deserves this :)

[hexed jay]

How come nobody else is taking about it

[pearl stratus]

I'm giving all of shanghai the benefit of the doubt till week 3.

Mostly because Daemin was announced 3 hours before that first game.

[cerulean ridge]

Daemin hasn't looked OWL tier at all

[hexed jay]

Daemin is gonna be benched for diya

[pearl stratus]

And had like 2 days to practice.

[cerulean ridge]

Even then

[steep dragon]

I really hope blizzard reconsiders his suspension

[pearl stratus]

So we knew he was going to look like shit.

[slim summit]

I'm beginning to lose faith in my ability to judge player performance

[pearl stratus]

And last weeks game everyone looked like shit.

Even Ado.

[cerulean ridge]

For Daemin it wasn't just his teamplay though

[torpid charm]

so happy Diya's back

[pearl stratus]

Ado fed like crazy.

[torpid charm]

isn't Mayhem waiting for one more person to come in

[hexed jay]

Daemin got picked first

[cerulean ridge]

Rly often it was just his mechanical stuff that underwhelmed me

[hexed jay]

Couldn’t finish off any kills without his ult

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, I'm not saying Daemin is amazing by any means.

[slim summit]

Shanghai was running 4 new players that don't share a language with the other 2 and have only been playing together for max 1 week

[hexed jay]

Like the other players could do better

[pearl stratus]

But I don't expect to see any actual improvement till week 3.

[cerulean ridge]

I can understand Daemin looking weak in teamplay

[pearl stratus]

They needed to get rid of freefeel

And bring in a korean support.

That would have been the smartest move.

[clever trout]

shanghai is just solo-queueing at this point

[cerulean ridge]

Sky is rly good though

[sweet jewel]

Shanghai is a Chinese team

[pearl stratus]

He is.

[cerulean ridge]

He's legit OWL tier

[sweet jewel]

Like, they want to represent China

[pearl stratus]

But you can't have a language barrier between front and back line.

@sweet jewel I only said one korean support, not two.

[hexed jay]

Sky got dove pretty hard

[pearl stratus]

Keep Sky and Diya.

The rest can be Korean.

[hexed jay]

Hard to judge his performance because he didn’t play much lol

[sweet jewel]

bring back undad

[pearl stratus]

Sky, historically, is a strong support.

But their support line is fucked.

Till the front line speaks more chinese.

[sullen berry]

Diya & Sky

[clever trout]

he's too busy not being dad

[slim summit]

undad

hah

i just got that one

[clever trout]

yup

[sullen berry]

I want to see the hero movepool between Daemin and Diya

it's not wide by a longshot

[pearl stratus]

Diya has a decent pool actually.

[hexed jay]

Dps is going to be ado and diya

[sullen berry]

but one I hope they can utilize combined

^^

[hexed jay]

There’s no question really

[pearl stratus]

He just got screwed by trying to rotate around Undead.

Diya will be on Tracer/Widow/McCree.

Ado will be on projectiles/tracer when Diya widows.

Diya has kind of a nutty widow. It sucks we never got to see it except that one game against Seoul.

If anyone forgot:

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/938645862338588672?lang=en

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Diya with the absolutely insane Widowmaker plays.😲😲😲 #OWL2018 https://t.co/a74ZRVuZhy

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[hazy arrow]

"well if the league keeps going like this maybe all the good players will be suspended soon and i can finally become a pro player" - u/xSnade

and one more

"OWL has more lore than Overwatch at this point" - u/AriesRohkell

[slim summit]

we're all OWL players now

what was that OWL controversy generator?

needs an update

[hazy arrow]

I was thinking about it earlier today

Needs more weird stuff

[cerulean ridge]

I've gotten farmed by OWL Tracer players in FFA, so why am I not playing flex support in OWL?

[slim summit]

I played Yeti Hunt with Rawkus' girlfriend

I'm basically Houston's assistant coach

[pearl stratus]

I'd work for Houston if I could.

They look like they have too much fun.

Watching all the idiots eat entire lemons was entertaining.

[cerulean ridge]

Most teams that aren't Dallas/Valiant seem pretty fun

English speaking ones at least

[slim summit]

London seems fun too

[pearl stratus]

They did the lemons for leukemia thing.

[slim summit]

Profit knows how to have a good time 🖕

[pearl stratus]

And it turned into "Who can eat the entire lemon, including the peel, and fastest."

[cerulean ridge]

I feel bad for Profit

[hazy arrow]

I have heard doesnt have a main tank player. Well, I'm currently in high gold but thats obviously only because of my team mates. Im pretty certain that with me we could think about winning everything, stages, seasons, World Cups, English Premier League, Wimledon,..

[cerulean ridge]

Maybe that's just cause he looks so adorable

I'd be a better winston than Cocco tbh

[pearl stratus]

Profit so far I think has only learned english curse words.

So I'm on Team Profit.

[slim summit]

lol

[cerulean ridge]

I'd feed in the enemy backline rather than in mine

[pearl stratus]

They were doing a Q&A thing on their youtube.

And he read one question.

And his answer was "This is dumb. Fuck you.

[cerulean ridge]

Haha

[pearl stratus]

God bless.

I think being on a team with Ark would be the most fun though.

[cerulean ridge]

Effects English pronounciation is pretty good too IMO

[pearl stratus]

Ark's AMA was actually really funny.

[cerulean ridge]

His vocabulary is a limited though

[pearl stratus]

Who is your funniest teammate? "It would be between Jjonak and Meko. The coach calls them... uh... dumb and dumber."

[hazy arrow]

@mörkenbörken#8549 sooo see you next Season at Dallas? looking forward to working with you

[cerulean ridge]

So when he angry and starts swearing Effect sounds almost completely fluent in English

[pearl stratus]

Dude.

Dallas needs to find a way to piss off Effect.

[cerulean ridge]

#BurnBlue

[pearl stratus]

I'm not sure if its like.. random cup checks when they're walking out or something.

But Hulk Effect is one of the best tracers in the league.

[cerulean ridge]

I promise I'll spam Trihard for my doggie

[hazy arrow]

POGCHAMP

[pearl stratus]

Not Angry Effect plays like the garbage that Dallas is.

[hazy arrow]

So I guess i will be dva then. Sorry Seagull

[cerulean ridge]

It's ok, Seagull's going back to DPS

They have a slot for you too

Angry Effect is awesome

He's just fueled by NMA

Like the hulk, but if he were Tracer

[hazy arrow]

So you on Winston, me as DVA, Effect and Rascal as DPS with Seagull being ready to help and Harry and Unkoe as healers

[pearl stratus]

Eh Seagull should stay on D'va.

He's better than Mickie.

[hazy arrow]

Alright, then we are running triple-tank i guess

[pearl stratus]

Mickie is there for PMA so no one kills themsleves.

[torpid charm]

Angry Effect = best Effect

[supple crow]

i hope they get a better coach

they have no resemblance of strategy

[silk linden]

You know this DK thing is actually making me kinda depressed. The OWL drama so far had been pretty popcorn worthy, but it's getting sad now. Why must gamers be trash

We'll get there eventually, but we have decades of toxic sad gaming culture to override

These are truly the times when we realize the jocks are the real good guys and the nerds need to get their shit together

[indigo barn]

DK was framed

Boston is doing so good, someone’s tryna bring them down

[silk linden]

If he's been framed it's just as sad

Maybe more

[limber pine]

I'm glad I didn't grow up in the age of social media

for once I'm glad i'm as old as I am

[indigo barn]

It kinda sucks

[fresh turret]

like why exactly?

[limber pine]

yes we get it

you can stop posting that now

[next hill]

sorry, didnt see it before.

[limber pine]

@fresh turret who me?

[pearl stratus]

Social Media stays with you forever, gets looked at by employers, and will always be something that can be sequestered.

Also lacking social media we actually had to develop some modicum of social skills.

[limber pine]

so true story

I once removed a post and the OP of that post didn't like it

he DMed me the only picture I've ever tweeted off my twitter of snow in front of my house

[hazy arrow]

"Why must some people be trash" FTFY

[limber pine]

and then deleted the account

TLDR Social media, even used "correctly", can lead to unsavory interactions

[pearl stratus]

People make fun of me for how little I use my facebook.

Guess who's laughing now 😄

[limber pine]

Haha

ha

ha

sigh

[nova pelican]

hate facebook

[pearl stratus]

Never forget that congress owns your twitter messages too.

[nova pelican]

instagram is the new Facebook now though

[pearl stratus]

Instragram is owned by facebook.

Tricks on you.

You're still giving them everything.

[nova pelican]

😓

[hazy arrow]

I cant help but social media are dangerous only if you are idiot I think

[nova pelican]

i dont have either

[hazy arrow]

Kinda like fire

[nova pelican]

only a twitter

[cerulean ridge]

I think especially with social media the way they are now we have to give people a chance to prove they've changed

[hazy arrow]

It keeps you warm, makes you finish foot, but if you are idiot, you can set yourself on fire

[pearl stratus]

It's forever. Thats the biggest thing.

I've had coworkers get fired over their social media stuff.

[cerulean ridge]

Like, if you can be held accountable for something terrible you said or believed a while back, you should be willing to accept people have changed

[nova pelican]

what if you only use social media under pseudonyms

[cerulean ridge]

Was it current or old stuff though?

[pearl stratus]

Especially back when I worked retail, and it was younger people.

[nova pelican]

i only ever text message irl friends from phone not anything else

[steep dragon]

Never share your online ID kids

[pearl stratus]

Young people, no offense, are dumb af when it comes to thinking their social media is untouchable/not something they can be held accountable for.

I remember having to fire a 19 year old and he was threatening to sue because him saying "Fuck customers. Our customers are dumb as fuck" with a picutre OF THE CUSTOMER was legally within his rights of free speech.

So we denied his unemployment.

Fuck that kid.

[nova pelican]

what an idiot

[pearl stratus]

I also used to routinely check applicants facebook/etc during the hiring process.

[nova pelican]

did you ever get someone with no social media at all

[pearl stratus]

Yes.

I hired him.

[unborn portal]

Good god kazper is the actual dumbest person ever wtf

[nova pelican]

nice

[pearl stratus]

He had no social media that I could find that had his name at least.

He probably still had one.

But it was all psuedonym based, which is good enough for me.

[nova pelican]

im so sad he was my legit favorite player next to surefour

yeah i stray away from using real name at all times

[pearl stratus]

Like a Finstagram, etc.

I remember I got a final written warning because I made a sign for our door at the time.

and it went viral on reddit/imgur.

And people decided to play detective of which store it was and complain.

Oh hey, I can still find it

https://tinyurl.com/ycs26379

[limber pine]

lol that's funny

[pearl stratus]

Our entranceway was redone and it was ALL glass windows. And they got cleaned constantly.

And people kept walking/running into them

So I made the sign as a joke.

And it backfired 😛

[limber pine]

it's not a BoA is it?

[torpid charm]

finst culture is crazy

[pearl stratus]

No, AT&T.

[limber pine]

ah

similar store hour font

[pearl stratus]

In the original picture you could see the reflection of the iPhone display.

And thats how people tracked us down.

[limber pine]

yup that'll do it

[pearl stratus]

Lesson learned. No social media, and nothing that can end up there.

Keeps Jack a happy and employedboy.

[torpid charm]

if you do have social media, be smart about it

[pearl stratus]

Even if you're smart about it remember.

It's forever.

I requested my facebook information.

It literally has EVERY message I sent on it in the last 6 years.

Every single one.

[torpid charm]

I'm still young but I've learned to get better even though stuff doesn't go away

[pearl stratus]

And it just got sold off to a company.

It also has timestamps and location geo-stamps for the messages.

Your google data is worse.

[torpid charm]

ya

[nova pelican]

discord does the same thing right

[torpid charm]

your name

[pearl stratus]

I'm sure it does.

Assume if it has messaging capability, and saves a chat history.

They keep it forever.

Space is cheap.

[nova pelican]

shit ive said some shady things here...

good thing its all under a pseudonym

[silk linden]

A friend of mine changed his last name on Facebook for good after the very first employer he interviewed with revealed they had been checking his profile. He got legit traumatized

And he hadn't even ever posted anything compromising, but still

I'm an older internet user myself too, so seeing minors doxxing themselves without a care to strangers really weirds me out

[pearl stratus]

I'm always confused why people are confused it gets checked. I'm not looking for anything malicious.

But if your front page is like.. you taking bong rips and getting blasted out of your mind on a sunday night I'm not trusting you to show up to work on monday morning.

[hazy arrow]

Fortunately I deleted my original FB account last year which I had had since I was 12

[solar trout]

Daddy zuckerberg still has all your data tho =/

[pearl stratus]

You can request a full purge.

[solar trout]

lol

[pearl stratus]

@nova pelican It's pretty much all fine if its under a psuedonym

Unless you join some weird like.

Digital man cave or something.

[hazy arrow]

Yeah but a) my future boss wont see that b) why would anyone want deleted profile? you cant show them anything, no ads, nothing. maybe only for statistics

[nova pelican]

normies use their real names on Twitter its weird, i only expect famous people to do it

[pearl stratus]

Digital Man Cave, Hell or Blob Emoji, basically.

[nova pelican]

not in any of those though I used to be in blob emoji when it was free blobs

[hazy arrow]

a lot people use their real names on Twitter

anyway

[pearl stratus]

I know. Your channels are tracked via your discord handle 😛

[hazy arrow]

I just wanted to say one thing

mainly for girls

Never send your nudes. NEVER

[torpid charm]

^^

[nova pelican]

especially if you're 14

[torpid charm]

^^^^

[vestal mortar]

👀

[pearl stratus]

Like Heuman is also in the Witcher and Skyrim discords.

[hazy arrow]

Like really, in my experience it always got leaked

[solar trout]

:/

[nova pelican]

i dont like how the guys always take the brunt of the blame when it comes to do that, the girls might be underage but i think 14 is old enough to know better

[pearl stratus]

❤

[hazy arrow]

My friend send her nudes to her boyfriend, then a hacker hacked her account and wanted to send it to her friends

[pearl stratus]

I mean in this situation the age is the bias creation, but I do agree that in most situations it is a female favored scenario.

[hazy arrow]

And trust me, this is where the things get ugly

Seriously, dont do that. Please

[pearl stratus]

But that is more a societal argument in which men are typically not allowed/mocked for being victims.

And goes way beyond what this channel should discuss, lol

[nova pelican]

yeah

[cerulean ridge]

Well, obviously you can't learn at a young enough age to be wary of people.

[pearl stratus]

Uh.

You can.

[nova pelican]

just don't call a girl who sent nudes brave or a hero for coming out

[pearl stratus]

Just most parents are shit now.

[nova pelican]

it's disgusting

[cerulean ridge]

But this just isn't the kind of thing someone should be wary of.

It cuts both ways

[pearl stratus]

The internet is literally the primary thing people should be wary of.

What are you talking about.

[cerulean ridge]

You should be able to trust that this kind of shit can stay private.

[nova pelican]

nah

we live in a different age now

[hazy arrow]

If there was a gold on Discord, I would give it to you @pearl stratus

[pearl stratus]

The last what.. 5 years?

Has been every leak under the sun.

Snowden leaks government secrets, we see all the celebrities naked, etc, etc.

Unless you can't read, or you're just functionally a moron.

You should know better.

[cerulean ridge]

Realistically you obviously can't be too safe, but that shouldn't really be the case.

[nova pelican]

exactly

[hazy arrow]

@nova pelican I wonder what would happen if you had this nickname in r/Overwatch or r/CompetitiveOverwatch

[nova pelican]

dude

[cerulean ridge]

B&

[pearl stratus]

While ignorance is not an excuse, it isn't for both sides of all these arguments.

[nova pelican]

I had this name in the overwatch tmz discoed and they banned me

[severe dune]

y i k e s

[supple crow]

yikes

[hazy arrow]

xD

[torpid charm]

y i k e s

[nova pelican]

i dont care ill defend my daddy to the death

[supple crow]

yikes

[torpid charm]

boooooooooooooi

but uh you do you I guess

[forest jackal]

has it been confirmed that he sent nudes

or she sent nudes

because nothing in the chat

suggests so

[pearl stratus]

Nothing has been confirmed.

[forest jackal]

from what I read

[pearl stratus]

Literally none of it.

[hazy arrow]

Thats the thing

[nova pelican]

still looking into it

[hazy arrow]

We know he knows her

[nova pelican]

my mans is facing some serious jailtime

[hazy arrow]

We know(?) he knew she was 14

[pearl stratus]

Even that we don't know know. Just infer.

[hazy arrow]

We know about handjob comment

And about "daddy ass" comment

[pearl stratus]

Literally nothing has been confirmed, so its all pointless speculation.

[nova pelican]

i got kicked for saying this in the other discord but ..

[hazy arrow]

But apart from that

Nothing

Although I think even that handjob comment may be enough to get him out of OWL

[nova pelican]

the girl is a Houston outlaws fan, she has a linkzr profile on Twitter, the uprising 4-0 outlaws recently, she exposes kazper

this can't be mere coincidence fellas

[supple crow]

yikes

[pearl stratus]

It can be.

[hazy arrow]

Well, there is still the second girl

[nova pelican]

not saying anyone was in the right, just an observation

[pearl stratus]

OWL is going to attract awkward groupies as well.

It happens.

[hoary wind]

Honestly I’m not trying to justify what Dream did but that girl is to blame, even if just somewhat. Idk if you all have seen some on the tweets and texts about it but she is not innocent.

[nova pelican]

i seen em she's an idiot just like dream

[pearl stratus]

Her innocence doesn't change anything

[supple crow]

it literally doesn't matter because minors are stupid. Adults lshould've known better

[pearl stratus]

It matters because it'll fuck her life too.

You think anyone will let her live this down?

[hoary wind]

She isn’t innocent at all. People acted like she was taken advantage of but that is hardly the case.

[pearl stratus]

She's going to get shamed to shit and back.

But it doesn't absolve what he did.

[hoary wind]

I’d shame her

[nova pelican]

people are calling her a hero on Twitter dude

for coming out

[pearl stratus]

She's also gotten DM death threats too.

For coming out.

It goes both ways.

[nova pelican]

good I mean damn it is what it is

[pearl stratus]

But until a legal agency says what happened, I'm kind of done caring.

[supple crow]

it'll follow her for a month or two

then everyone wil lforget her

no one will forget what DK did

[pearl stratus]

Nothing thats come out couldn't have been faked if you wanted it to be.

[nova pelican]

poor uprising he seemed like a good guy really close with his team

[pearl stratus]

Good people still make stupid mistakes.

[torpid charm]

honestly

[hazy arrow]

If they dont prove the nudes and masturbation thing, then DK could be declared clear

[supple crow]

What he did wasn't a stupid mistake though, he knew.

[hazy arrow]

Although his reputation is already destroyed I think

Many people will ignore it

[supple crow]

eh he can still be charged for grooming a minor

[torpid charm]

must hurry with my path to pro so I can take DK's spot

[hazy arrow]

What does grooming mean?

[pearl stratus]

Can's are always a slippery slope.

[nova pelican]

i believe in you bro

[pearl stratus]

Because if she sent him nudes

[nova pelican]

it means he combed her hair

[pearl stratus]

She can be charged for child porn distribution.

Can and wills don't matter.

[hazy arrow]

I am not sure it works like this

[pearl stratus]

None of it matters till its validated.

[hazy arrow]

It makes sense

[nova pelican]

minors can be charged wirh rhat?

[pearl stratus]

Yep.

[supple crow]

Child grooming is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child, and sometimes the family, to lower the child's inhibitions with the objective of sexual abuse.

[pearl stratus]

It's usually only done as a scare tactic to get people to plea out.

But children have been charged with creation and distribution of child pornography in consentual relationships before.

It wouldn't be the first time.

Welcome to the law. It's fucked up.

[hazy arrow]

Hmmm

I am not a lawyer/attorney

[nova pelican]

he was an amazing pharah and widow...

[hazy arrow]

But this really is interesting

[river birch]

Whats up with streamers/pros getting mixed up with minors and e-girls

[pearl stratus]

But again, until any of this gets verified nothing is concrete or matters.

It's just people picking a side and defending it.

[hazy arrow]

I mean, in most cases its an idiot blackmailing a girl. In this case its not

[nova pelican]

i hope none of it is true but it looks likely

[hazy arrow]

We will see

I hope hes innocent

[pearl stratus]

His careers over whether he's innocent or not.

[hazy arrow]

Hes a really good player and I enjoy watching him

[pearl stratus]

That's not really up for debate.

[supple crow]

He's never gonna play in OWL again

[pearl stratus]

Allegations like this don't go away, even if they're found to be wrong.

It's why you have to be skeptical of all sides and all people.

[supple crow]

Blizzard will take A GIGANTIC PR hit if they allow him back

it will be the downfall of OWL

[pearl stratus]

I mean it won't be the downfall, it's not public enough for that yet.

But it would be unnecessarily bad pr.

Outside of the current OW community most likely no one will actually hear of anything, and in two months it'll be forgotten.

[supple crow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/8atmqm/statement_from_the_boston_uprising/dx2obz1/

it already started

[nova pelican]

he's gonna get the kephrii 8 inch treatment of he so much as even plays overwatch in comp

[pearl stratus]

I know. I live in Boston.

LIterally no one is talking abou tit.

It's being reported, and no ones actually talking about it.

[supple crow]

no one needs to talk about it

they will hear about it

[balmy wolf]

If this proves to be a false allegation I hope DK can continue to play

[supple crow]

and hearing about it = turning off potential viewers

[strong crescent]

Not happening

[balmy wolf]

If he is innocent

[supple crow]

and sponsors will start to hesitate and back out

[strong crescent]

Definitely not happening

[nova pelican]

at least mistakes can play more now

[strong crescent]

Potential for bad PR means that OWL won't touch him with a 10 foot pole

No matter the outcome

[supple crow]

If they allow him to play all conversations about OWL will be all about him in the news

they wont take that risk

[balmy wolf]

Shit man

Rip career

Btw what does PR stand for?

[pearl stratus]

Public Relations.

[supple crow]

public relations

[balmy wolf]

Ah

[pearl stratus]

Like Ray Rice, when he beat the shit out of his girlfriend in the elevator.

The team suspended him indefinitely right away.

And he faded away.

And never played again.

Even after the league overrode his suspension.

[hazy arrow]

https://twitter.com/Vexua_ow/status/983147946584825856 😆

Vexua (@Vexua_ow)

@Carter_OW https://t.co/LbLDqCyGMa

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This is gold

[nova pelican]

that's bronze at best

[hazy arrow]

Im pretty sure going to the hell after I die

[supple crow]

https://heavy.com/games/2018/04/dreamkazper-has-a-second-alleged-victim-16-years-old-exclusive/

ouchhh

[hazy arrow]

Well, its worth it i guess

[supple crow]

Y I K E S

[nova pelican]

hey at least this ones 2 years older

[pearl stratus]

I think people need to recheck dictionary for the definitions of words.

[oak schooner]

bum head 😉

[supple crow]

he even lied about his age

claimed to be 18

[nova pelican]

he looks 18 ill let it slide just this once

[supple crow]

yikes

[paper crag]

Dk claimed he was 18?

[supple crow]

yeah

[paper crag]

Lol wtf

[hazy arrow]

Not exactly

[supple crow]

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/talking-airline-tickets.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

[pearl stratus]

He claimed he was two years older than her.

[hazy arrow]

He claimed he was 2 years older

[supple crow]

he claimed to be 2 years older

[paper crag]

Doesnt 3 seconds on google give you his actual age?

[pearl stratus]

But no where does it start her age.

[twin dove]

do we know he's actually 20/21?

cause i cant find his dam age

[pearl stratus]

Even the article says the girl is claiming to be 16

Reading comprehension.

The previous message to that could be her saying "I'm 18"