thanks
#esports-discussion
pseudo viper
lol, no prob
tawny sigil
problem in the chat right now, some people are talking strickly "Law" and some "Ethics" which are 2 different things.
clever trout
there is really no excuse on any background for a 21 year old talking like that to a 14
pseudo viper
YOU DONT KNOW IF IT HAPPENED THOUGH
pseudo viper
we don't have much proof other than her words
rancid crest
Again
pseudo viper
that's not proof
rancid crest
This all can be manipulated
clever trout
i'm sure he sent her pictures out of kidness too, she photoshopped this? she's just this evil bitch that she took an innocent guy's convo and framed him?
rancid crest
This is the 21st century after all
pseudo viper
@clever trout outlaws fans are weird like that
balmy wolf
@clever trout we aren't saying its a fact, but a possibilit
tawny sigil
none of us do, none of us actually have access to ANYTHING that could prove this right or wrong since all of this was done in private.
balmy wolf
possibility*
pseudo viper
@balmy wolf thanks
clever trout
the creepy thing is how you guys just jump into BUT IT COULD BE defense
pseudo viper
not just that
clever trout
meanwhile i'm more scared it actually happenede
deft valley
@clever trout denial ain’t just a river
balmy wolf
alright i gotta go
clever trout
or you know, it's just happened.
tawny sigil
Elon musk faked car in space, Flat earth confirmed
clever trout
ok but aren't you freaking creeped out that there is a big chance it did? BIG one.
clever trout
omg
tawny sigil
its really 50/50
balmy wolf
Of course we are idk about him tho
deft valley
so logically, the next step is to bring up how she’s shared something sexual on her old account and be adamant she made it up
forest raven
F I F T Y F I F T Y
pseudo viper
the strongest proof we have right now is her words and screenshots
forest raven
clever trout
lmao lemme guesss you were never a 14 year old girl on the internet huh
deft valley
because she’s a slut and should know better clearly
deft valley
so?
pseudo viper
can you read it for me
clever trout
because i wasn't even on the internet at 14 since that was a long time ago and i had 10 year old guys making sexual advances on me. and you think it's something rare that could happen.
pseudo viper
im not
im providing evidence from the other side of the argument because no one else is
clever trout
why do you feel like you have to do this?
there is no evidence he didn't do it. he hasn't even denied it.
deft valley
“evidence he didn’t do it” is a very slippery slope
pseudo viper
https://twitter.com/IiNkzr/status/983065627098320897 attention whore
Twitter
clever trout
exactly
deft valley
how about we actually wait until they’re either confirmed or rejected
balmy wolf
So this is weird. Both the humblekusaii and iinkzr account are created within a week
tawny sigil
This could get even worse before we get some answers if we even do.
pseudo viper
nah humblekusaii is older i believe
deft valley
instead of attacking the girl’s character for speaking up
pseudo viper
but they covered up tracks and deleted every tweet on that accounrt
torpid charm
lol this is still all too wild
deft valley
really, “attention whore”
tawny sigil
That is an actually illegal thing to do
pseudo viper
Twitter
balmy wolf
No iinkzr is older
deft valley
are you fucking kidding me
clever trout
lmao you calling her attention whore?
balmy wolf
By 6 days
clever trout
this.is.wild.
balmy wolf
Hold up I'm screenshot ring
forest raven
She's an attention whore so the evidence she provided MUST BE FALSE
deft valley
because no victim would be happy to bring light upon their perpetrator?
tawny sigil
"Tempering with evidence" is an actual felony
pseudo viper
you don't talk like that when you're taken advantage of.
clever trout
omg
deft valley
have you ever been taken advantage of?
clever trout
i'm sure she wore a short skirt too. that slut.
pseudo viper
no but i know people close to me that have.
deft valley
sure
balmy wolf
clever trout
you have no right to say how a victim talks.
deft valley
not everyone responds the same to a stressful situation
who knew
balmy wolf
^
pseudo viper
you dont react angrily
red anvil
wtf kind of weird language is that
balmy wolf
yes you do
pseudo viper
@red anvil html i believe
deft valley
“doesn’t sound like a victim” is just fuckingwhat
balmy wolf
if you get manipulated, you will be angry
deft valley
are you seriously gatekeeping victimization now
warped axle
So do you guys think Florida can beat Boston now?
deft valley
what the honest fuck
balmy wolf
no
red anvil
Florida can beat boston, yes.
balmy wolf
nah
pseudo viper
no one I've ever met reacts that way to a pedo
red anvil
they are limited to double hitscan now
balmy wolf
mistakes should be grinding all the time cuz thats what boston is about
red anvil
with no synergy, and completely destroyed after the drama
forest raven
Mistakes can play Genji
red anvil
i would be very suprisied if boston look good at all
forest raven
But Pharah is a big monkaS now
pseudo viper
I'm not saying they shouldn't be angry but it's less likely that happens
red anvil
wasent mistakes tracer on 123 Lily?
pseudo viper
everything she says is less likely to happen than something else
forest raven
Yeah he was kaku
clever trout
i don't care who you met. nothing happened to you. it's not your lane.
forest raven
He fucked shit up on Tracer in Contendies
torpid charm
I'm hope they do well because this is a shit situation
torpid charm
putting all my faith and well wishes in Mistakes
pseudo viper
@clever trout same for you. but why are you getting so involved then?
clever trout
you can meet a queen on england and you're not in the position to run fucking uk mate
pseudo viper
how does that relate
clever trout
lmao did you miss the part where i said something like this did happen to me?
pseudo viper
very bad comparison
red anvil
i guess, this is the stage to have double hitscan
pseudo viper
when did you say that
red anvil
if ever
clever trout
a few messages earlier
pseudo viper
you said you were being hit up by 10 yr olds?
clever trout
your reading comprehension is astounding
pseudo viper
that's what you said
tawny sigil
I'd like to remind everyone of the country where this is happening. 12 years sometimes to get trial as adults and sentenced for life for stuff they were only TAKING PART in and not the master mind of.
clever trout
no i said i was getting hit on by 20-somethings at 14. and 13
asked to come to their houses
clever trout
one guy wanted to paint me lol. what a creep
red anvil
you dont go to oasis if you always lose 0-4 
pseudo viper
and did you say no to them?
forest raven
lmao true
clever trout
let me tell you. i was flustered. i did feel special.
pseudo viper
but did you say no
clever trout
i didn't go because it was irl. i would agree on the internet.
balmy wolf
its a child
balmy wolf
what the fuck do you mean they should know? they barely know anything
clever trout
because at 14 you think it's so amazing someone gives you attention and as a girl you're likely to be told you're flawed all the time by people your age so someone saying how beautiful you are makes you thing you won a lottery
pseudo viper
SHES 14
clever trout
makes you feel like an adult
pseudo viper
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
balmy wolf
and still a fucking child
twilit mulch
no*
pseudo viper
why does it matter if they are a child, they should know logic
red anvil
that guy have decided that DK is innocent
clever trout
you are 14 and i'm older and you just think you know what to say lol
red anvil
no point arguing with him
tawny sigil
14 is not an indicator of where you're at in your knowledge of life.
clever trout
kids don't know logic.
balmy wolf
because they do not know better wtf is wrong with you its like you have never been a teenager before
tawny sigil
some know stuff at 8 some at 32
pseudo viper
no, you just haven't provided decent evidence against my points
I'm providing evidence, you are saying that she's 14 therefore she doesn't know shit
forest raven
Aldrixx you're a nonce mate
clever trout
you haven't provided any evidence either apart from claiming she should act according to your victim definition
twilit mulch
im still saying innocent until proven for both lily and dream but all i can say is they're both stupid, one is just an evil person
slim summit
make whatever distinctions y'all want
it's still a felony
the judge won't give a damn
pseudo viper
I don't have a victim definition, I'm saying that rarely anyone acts that way
balmy wolf
10 to 18 is the age group that most impressionable
pseudo viper
you can hear it on the news, from other people, etc. they don't act that way
maybe they are angry, but they talk differently because they're mixed with emotions.
it's not just anger
clever trout
i don't know what kind of news you watch...
slim summit
"I'm providing evidence" -> "you can hear it on the news, they don't act that way"
pseudo viper
npr
slim summit
forest raven
Just from a purely biological perspective, the adolescent brain is literally wired to seek out thrilling, novelty and new experiences, and they receive a greater reward for seeking them out, and they don't consider the consequences of risk-taking as much
pseudo viper
it's evidence, not proof
tawny sigil
problem here is this girl is not taking him to court she's taking it to tweeter. He's not gonna get charged with Felony until she presses charges.
forest raven
Purely, biologically speaking
pseudo viper
do you know the difference
slim summit
it's the opposite of evidence
balmy wolf
when the news is always skewed to its own audience 
tawny sigil
Tweet is not a court of law, that's what's fucked up about all of this
slim summit
oh, you're right, my bad
i looked it up and the Webster definition is "you can hear it on the news"
clever trout
the news is not gonna give you a detailed profile of a victim. it's not gonna tell you what the victim does 24/7. she might act agree and cry her eyes out at night when you don't see it.
pseudo viper
why are you calling me a nonce
clever trout
Angry lol
balmy wolf
actually, you can use tweets for bibliography now same with yt :V
pseudo viper
im not a pedo lol
clever trout
i haven't woken up yet
torpid charm
y'all wildin out lol
forest raven
I didn't call you a pedo, that's all you buddy
balmy wolf
bruh this guy doesnt understand how vulnerable a child is
forest raven
I just said stop being a nonce
pseudo viper
yes
a nonce is by definition
a person convicted of a sexual offense, especially child molesting.
clever trout
today i learnt a new word
forest raven
Nice to know you use urban dictionary to define words for you
pseudo viper
im not a pedo nor am i a molester
forest raven
Bloody nonce
clever trout
what if you photoshop the screenshots 😃
balmy wolf
lOLOL
torpid charm
I feel like y'all should just drop the discussion for right now and just wait to see how things play out but I ain't the mod so I can't tell y'all what to do, lol
pseudo viper
forest raven
Aldrixx with a real noncy message
pseudo viper
@forest raven do you know what you're saying?
clever trout
yeah i'm gonna stop. at least some people seem to be reasonable.
forest raven
I know you're a nonce mate
pseudo viper
I'm not going to respond because you have no logic as well
i provided you with a screenshot of the definition
pseudo viper
What's your reasoning against it?
slim summit
"i'm not going to respond" furiously responds
torpid charm
spring lintel
Lmao DK fucked up
pseudo viper
I'm not responding to them calling me a nonce
spring lintel
I just joined
pseudo viper
yo
slim summit
did you see the part where DK told the girl to call him daddy?
that's my favorite part
pseudo viper
but did he do that?
balmy wolf
its been out for like 18 hours
spring lintel
Anyways, the girl is obviously looking for fame too
slim summit
yes
pseudo viper
we don't know if they are possibly edited
spring lintel
But i guess she is just a child
balmy wolf
oh 100%
clever trout
go nyxl i guess 
forest raven
DREAMDADDY 
pseudo viper
@spring lintel ah, thank you
twilit forum
slim summit
if they were edited why hasn't DK come out to defend himself
tawny sigil
I'd like to point this out, When that kind of stuff normally happens
Where someone is discovered to take advantage of kids.
it's not cause the victim came out on tweeter to admit as bluntly as this right after it happened.
It's normally years down the road as a leak or someone that know the person leaked it or hacker found DMs and shit like that.
This looks like an attack not an accusation which i think is what people are freaking out about.
slim summit
"these are edited"
forest raven
spring lintel
DaddyDreamy i think
pseudo viper
@slim summit he hasn't been on twitter or overwatch
slim summit
no shit he's staying of twitter
he just got outed as a pedo
it's not like he's unaware of the circumstances
spring lintel
It’s not edited
pseudo viper
uprising probably cut out service until they know what happened
spring lintel
It’s obviously real
slim summit
lol
pseudo viper
same as owl
clever trout
let me tell you, if you ignore the whole creep factor, DK is so embarrassing lol
slim summit
cut out service ????
spring lintel
Feelsbadman
balmy wolf
the sad thing is that the people who were on oversight predicted that BU is the only chance that the NYXL defense is going to break 
gusty cipher
dreamcozby new dlc char for dreamdaddy
pseudo viper
@spring lintel evidence?
gusty cipher
i like it
onyx shore
he's probably preparing a statement (if he's innocent) or already giving up
spring lintel
Cause it’s obvious as fuck
forest raven
NYXL going 10-0 now boi 
@balmy wolf
pseudo viper
how
spring lintel
And they wouldn’t suspend someone without evidence
slim summit
what do you need
pseudo viper
any
balmy wolf
spring lintel
The only contact they had is online
onyx shore
if he's innocent,i hope he comes out to defend himself quick
slim summit
can you go screenshot the google definition of "specifically" for me please
onyx shore
or his legal team
pseudo viper
i know, but I'm just looking for any evidence from you
spring lintel
He is not, these are not fake. If they were DK would have came out and said it
spring lintel
Wanna bet?
slim summit
what evidence would you like
pseudo viper
can you read what i said
gusty cipher
most evidence isnt even public lol
tawny sigil
if he is innocent, i'd be way more worried about. is he thinking of suicide right now. which is a very high possibility.
spring lintel
Evidence is literally online
slim summit
do you understand the question I'm asking?
spring lintel
OWL decided to suspend someone because some fan gave a fake picture?
onyx shore
two things are missing : the alleged nude photos,and dreamkazper's side of the story
balmy wolf
honestly the only thing I found wierd from my searching is the battlenet ID and the twitter accounts being created a week apart
onyx shore
not owl,his org did
spring lintel
It’s owl
balmy wolf
thats not even good proof
spring lintel
Not his team
balmy wolf
no OWL is also doing an investigation
pseudo viper
i said cut out service
slim summit
I think OWL and Uprising sent out the same tweet verbatim
pseudo viper
uprising is his isp
pseudo viper
they can cut it out
slim summit
how else would he facetime
fresh turret
He's fucked either way, defending oneself here is just as suspicious looking as saying quiet since there is a child involved
clever trout
it's likely BU already asked DK about this. the fact his suspension happened so fast speaks against him.
slim summit
and why would they deny him access to the internet if they're fake?
spring lintel
You guys wanna know what would have happened if it was fake?
Dreamkazpee: she is lying I didn’t do it
fresh turret
They dont want him saying anything unplanned
slim summit
it's been 18 hours
pseudo viper
you guys still have no proof those photos are real lmao
slim summit
what proof do you want
pseudo viper
please give me some
slim summit
specifically
pseudo viper
any proof
slim summit
lol
pseudo viper
or even evidence
spring lintel
You have no proof that they are not real
slim summit
just go away
tawny sigil
Doesnt matter if its fake or not, Dreamkazper career is over.
pseudo viper
yes i do
slim summit
nonce
onyx shore
dude
clever trout
if he says "i'm sorry i was stupid" meaning he did it are you guys gonna keep defending him too because he's sorry?
spring lintel
Ppl tested it for photoshop and it was real
onyx shore
if you're the one claiming those photos are faked,you should be the one to proof it
pseudo viper
what? where
twilit forum
theres still html edits, but it does look real even then
pseudo viper
I would like to see the tweet or anything?
twilit forum
because kazper would have replied immediatly
pseudo viper
please
spring lintel
^
twilit forum
and his lawyer is telling him to STFU
spring lintel
Exactly
pseudo viper
because people can make it look real
twilit forum
because nobody that is accused of X will talk
slim summit
lol
pseudo viper
there are plugins
twilit forum
unless they are absolute rwords
slim summit
people can make anything look real
pseudo viper
have you ever used ps
fresh turret
Stop flaming the one guy questioning stuff and give him the info you have if you want him to quit
slim summit
might as well go through life believing everything to be fake
tawny sigil
well shit ton of people in here are not too "Court literate"
pseudo viper
i didnt say that
twilit forum
you think kazper wouldnt talk if it was fake?
slim summit
over and over and over
pseudo viper
@fresh turret exactly
fresh turret
Yeah
spring lintel
They will access her phone and twitter for evidence
pseudo viper
are you dumb
pseudo viper
scroll up please @slim summit
onyx shore
i think,if he's innocent,him and his legal team should provide a statement asap
clever trout
if he is innocent and it was photoshop then believe me he's just gonna get cleared. his career is not gonna be ruined if he never said anything wrong to that girl. we all know it's unlikely lol
onyx shore
i said if
spring lintel
Cause he is guilty
pseudo viper
@onyx shore they don't know though
balmy wolf
it could be faked, but I doubt a girl can do that shit overnight
fresh turret
No need for such hostility
slim summit
twitter and phone logs can be faked by the twitter & at&t deep state
gusty cipher
dont say evidence is faked if it doesnt even slightly concern you and you dont have proof it is
pseudo viper
@balmy wolf not overnight
twilit forum
at&t deep state yoioioioioikes
pseudo viper
the accounts are a week old
tawny sigil
Senua that's where you are wrong. His career is ruined to matter what he's not gonna back to the league PERIOD.
pseudo viper
likely did it around a week's time
balmy wolf
thats what I said 
pseudo viper
nah you said overnight
severe folio
This is a serious legal case he should not say anything public unless he knows he's safe to say anything if he is innocent
twilit forum
his career is not theo nly thing ruined
onyx shore
he's probably will be dropped from the team
twilit forum
his whole life is ruined
onyx shore
but
twilit forum
sex offender list
tawny sigil
that's how it works in american. Accusation = your entire life is turned around
twilit forum
thats a yoioioikes
hexed jay
Remember those duke lacrosse players?
spring lintel
I hate the girl cause she is not hurt and she is just using it for attention
hexed jay
lolz
onyx shore
if he's innocent,he better clear his name
pseudo viper
no, he hasn't been tested in court
hexed jay
There’s no coming back
balmy wolf
idk man oj got away with his shit
hexed jay
Even if it is completely fake
slim summit
lol what
clever trout
not really there are sportsmen who got accused of rape, even had a trial. still going strong. wife beaters too.
severe folio
A lot of that shit looked fake so let's see if it's real or not we have no idea
twilit forum
i mean the girl has been trying to flirt with the other league players
pseudo viper
but he was tested in court
twilit forum
shes literaly jailbait
balmy wolf
no shes not
pseudo viper
everyone knows anyway he's a criminal
balmy wolf
she looks like a child
slim summit
tested in court
spring lintel
She is lmao
pseudo viper
@slim summit yes, exactly.
slim summit
w/e my dude
keep your head in the sand as long as you want
but you're welcome to rejoin us in reality at any time
spring lintel
Whoever thinks dreamkazper is innocent is actually deluded
pseudo viper
why? you havent provided any evidence against me
severe folio
We're all just waiting for updates from the league and the police
pseudo viper
other than I'm dumb and my evidence is fake
spring lintel
Cause I have a head that I can use
clever trout
like i said, she can say she's gonna suck his dick and he has legal obligation to tell her to fuck off
fresh turret
There's no reason to hate on a girl for this. If the allegations are real she did the right thing. If they aren't it's incredibly stupidly done but still by a child who doesn't deserve hate but attitude fixing or smth.
tawny sigil
also considering the state of OWL pr, even if his name is clear they're not taking him back. they are way too scared of being associated with him from this point on.
pseudo viper
@spring lintel if you had a head then you should be able to find evidence against me
slim summit
see evidence -> "this evidence is fake, give me evidence this evidence is real" -> repeat
pseudo viper
where is the evidence then
clever trout
lol ok so he will not get back to owl. at least he will not go to jail i guess 😄
twilit forum
if it was fake, the allegations would be damaging very quick
hence a response would be required by the accused to clear the PR disaster
its not happening hence theres something bigger behind the scenes
usually lawyers tell clients to not talk about anything to anyone when theres a cloud of shit over them
pseudo viper
ah, thank you
spring lintel
Why would dreamkazper not come out and say: hey these are fake and I didn’t do any of it. We will investigate more to see the problem.
tawny sigil
yeah he won't and even if this happened. He won't go to jail... Why, cause she's is taking it to tweet instead of court
spring lintel
Why would he wait for his name and reputation to be slandered
slim summit
beecause Uprising is his ISP and cut him off
pseudo viper
the thing is though
gusty cipher
going public on twitter is the least thing you should do anyway, there is a legal system, public outrage is not a part of that
severe folio
Because people already are against him
pseudo viper
@slim summit yeah do you know how it works
twilit forum
as long as theres no actually accusations laid on dreamkazper by the girl or the family of the girl
clever trout
she has every reason to ruin him on twitter and legally if he did what he did
twilit forum
theres no jail time
spring lintel
Lmao no, if you are clear. There is nothing to be afraid of.
pseudo viper
that's apparently how it works according to people here on your side of the argument.
onyx shore
you can just say (if you're innocent)
spring lintel
^
onyx shore
"guys,i'm aware of the accusation,i'm preparing my statement,pls wait"
spring lintel
Pretty simple, no one can do anything to you.
pseudo viper
he hasn't been online though
slim summit
lol
pseudo viper
since the day before he was accused
gusty cipher
@clever trout no, we arent in the 15th century anymore
spring lintel
Lol dude you are actually insane
slim summit
^
clever trout
you think he's in deep bush right now that he can't get online?
pseudo viper
@slim summit please stop replying if you aren't going to contribute anything to this discussion.
tawny sigil
The fact that this girl took it to twitter rather than the law.
Paint this as an attack not an actual accusation.
spring lintel
Lmao actually the dumbest thing i have seen in my life
slim summit
@pseudo viper just provide evidence against me
spring lintel
In 2018
clever trout
lol what does that 15th century comment even mean
spring lintel
He didnt talk on twitter because he is not online LMAO
severe folio
Well the police will get involved eventually
onyx shore
@tawny sigil yes,and i agree that this girl isn't 100% innocent herself
pseudo viper
i cant counter your evidence if you have none, but ive disproven other arguments, you just scroll up lol
or, ive provided evidence
slim summit
where's the links
pseudo viper
scroll up
clever trout
he knows what happened, he knows he got suspended and he knows what he's accused of. he's not somewhere just drinking coffee rn thinking what to eat for dinner.
onyx shore
can you provide that your point is real?
pseudo viper
read what i sent
spring lintel
Give me an evidence that you are not a advanced ai from the future
slim summit
they are fake
onyx shore
and not edited?
slim summit
provide evidence that they are real
gusty cipher
public shaming is the least thing you should ever go for before any legal means are being solved
twilit forum
so dense, we could believe youre a fucking bot
tawny sigil
Like what could happen is OWL will probably force a police investigation which will force everything the girl claims to be Subpeona'd
twilit forum
the guy saying its fake
clever trout
that's funny because people are quick to publically shame this girl here
spring lintel
They wouldn’t have suspended him if there wasnt an ongoing investigation
pseudo viper
no, actually the opposite here right now
twilit forum
at first i thought they were fake too, 1 hour after the ordeal came out
spring lintel
Any random online can fake stuff online
tawny sigil
@clever trout TWITTER IS NOT A COURT OF LAW
pseudo viper
look at youtube, look at twitter, even look here
gusty cipher
@clever trout right, just as shitty
twilit forum
then obviously after 10+ hrs with no reply from kazper
torpid charm
twilit forum
you can definitely tell they are real
fresh turret
This is a discussion, wouldn't call it public shaming
clever trout
who cares, she's an angry 14 year old kid. you think the police will care she started ranting on twitter?
finite cedar
Him being silence and suspended is completely normal and reasonable.
spring lintel
I vote we ignore aldrixx so we can have an actual civilized conversation
gusty cipher
twitter is public shaming in its raw form
pseudo viper
sure, dk hasn't responded, but that's your only form of evidence? there are many reasons why he could've not been online
balmy wolf
I mean, if there is kraft money involved...
pseudo viper
that I already provided to you
forest raven
#OutWithTheNonce
spring lintel
Lmao mo kraft money will be involved
forest raven
(Aldrixx)
balmy wolf
honestly, dk is probably told not to respond
strong crescent
The internet is public shaming at its finest
clever trout
yes i'm sure he's also gonna get lynched at the square at 3pm
strong crescent
Not just twitter
pseudo viper
i love that you have to tell them who it is lol
slim summit
he's definitely been told not to respond
balmy wolf
just like every OWL player cannot comment on it
spring lintel
Cause some if not all allegations are true
gusty cipher
twitter has the fastest reach tho
spring lintel
That is why he is not talking
pseudo viper
proving how irrelevant your argument is\
strong crescent
Either that or he just doesn't want to say something
severe folio
I think he's waiting to shut her down with evidence if it's fake otherwise he's silent because he's guilty
onyx shore
^
halcyon chasm
WHAT'S HAPPENING?!?!? 😮
strong crescent
Maybe that would make him look more sus
onyx shore
agreed with jona
tawny sigil
considering this is america where kids are sometimes trial'd as adult. This girl could be in some deep shit if this is all fake ... that's why ranting on twitter is terrible for this. if this is all real then she has nothing to worry about
spring lintel
Lmao you don’t need evidence to shut her down
clever trout
you do realise that's exactly why she did it on twitter? she wanted to see motherfucker burn. and i would too.
spring lintel
If you are innocent
pseudo viper
it's entirely possible that he is guilty
clever trout
i would not have patience to see this guy happily play overwatch and have a career
balmy wolf
the entire league literally does not want to talk about it even the players. He is most likely told the same
pseudo viper
but that's the only evidence I've seen to prove that he is, other than words
spring lintel
I wonder why she kept talking to him after she saw his dick
gusty cipher
@clever trout yeah, lets ditch all legal systems, public is the court now
clever trout
she's not gonna be trialed as adult. she didn't murder anyone.
forest raven
wtf
fresh turret
I'd assume that DK isn't in the best state mentally atm and the Uprising staff might not wanna take risks with letting him on twitter where he could do some very irresponsible stuff especially if he can't think straight. Not trying to defend him solely, but it's a PR decicion to buy them time
pseudo viper
a 14 yr old should know when to say no to something
forest raven
Dream was over TWENTY
lament dune
You have to believe what people say in this situation. If you are saying that she is automatically lying because you don’t believe her, you are potentially standing with an abuser.
forest raven
He's a legal adult
spring lintel
She is just looking for attention and dk is a pedo
forest raven
She's a teenager
tawny sigil
@clever trout you realize that people are doing this on a daily basis to ruin people's life and most of them are fake right?
slim summit
^ has nothing to do with whether or not this is fake
pseudo viper
this has a lot to do with whether it's fake or not
lament dune
@tawny sigil you’re going to have to actually prove that one
balmy wolf
I mean, if the girl is telling the truth dk is going to jail, if she isnt she is going to juvie most likely
clever trout
@tawny sigil and do you realise how many creeps are trying to get advantage over a 14 year old girl daily right?
tawny sigil
If you think this is ok under the pretext of "well it gets the one that are real" then you are OUT OF YOUR MIND
onyx shore
@balmy wolf can he go to jail if she's not going to the police?
balmy wolf
also depends if its a judge in court or a jury
pseudo viper
how do you know she's 14?
slim summit
lol
onyx shore
i'm not familiar with us legal system
spring lintel
The pictures she got are real
clever trout
social profiles mate. easy to check she's 14
balmy wolf
warrants 
pseudo viper
from her words?
spring lintel
Guys ignore aldrixx
balmy wolf
they can also go to the ISP and phone companies
forest raven
Aldrixx is a big nonce
pseudo viper
I haven't seen much to prove she's 14
clever trout
lmao i'm sorta new, is this guy troll or smth
forest raven
We've come to accept his nonciness
spring lintel
It’s literally gonna go no where with aldrixx
slim summit
Aldrixx will demand a birth certificate now
balmy wolf
or you know, the companies that made the apps they were using
slim summit
and when he sees one
"how do we know this is real ? you don't provide evidence against me"
spring lintel
I dunno I just joined and he said dreamkazper didnt say anything cause he doesnt have internet, I lost it at that point lmao.
onyx shore
pseudo viper
lmao why do you think im arguing against you, im countering your arguments with evidence from the other side, i am not on a side yet
tawny sigil
If you think ruining the life of a few good guys to get a few bad guys is ok, Your moral compass is not working correctly and should seek help.
lament dune
It’s pretty pointless to argue this anyway, let the legal system take care of it. None of you are lawyers or involved
gusty cipher
this
pseudo viper
my step father is a lawyer
spring lintel
Anyways hopefully both of them get punished
spring lintel
The girl jebaited the pedo
gusty cipher
my dad is jeff kaplan
forest raven
Aldrixx you're a goddamn goldmine dude
onyx shore
spring lintel
If the convos are real
pseudo viper
@forest raven
clever trout
i'm just saying her lying about being 14 would be the funniest thing when you can check it in 5 seconds if you're even marginally skilled at "hacking"
pseudo viper
?
forest raven
It's like if reddit and 4chan had a baby
spring lintel
LMAO
tawny sigil
My uncle works for activision, i know everything listen to me
torpid charm
too wild
pseudo viper
like i said, im not arguing against you, or im not on a side against you
fresh turret
Chances for Smart conversation lost
pseudo viper
im just questioning
spring lintel
Anyways, i feel bad for the pedo too. It’s kinda weird and creepy.
tawny sigil
@clever trout yeah it only takes a minute to check from the right people. But damage is already done.
pseudo viper
you guys arent providing good answers, unfortunately
balmy wolf
if only we have actual technology that tells us if someone is lying...
strong crescent
That's pretty dumb
onyx shore
so,what's next for team USA ?
slim summit
just stop bruh
gusty cipher
smart conversation on a topic that is none of our business
spring lintel
No one cares aldrizz
gusty cipher
omegalul
strong crescent
How would DK not have internet
balmy wolf
danteh for team USA
spring lintel
He is just an idiot
onyx shore
danteh and sinaatra?
severe folio
The texts looked pretty fake and the DMs were just jokes but if she has stuff that she didn't want to post she will bring then to the police and kazper is going to jail
slim summit
it's hardly none of our business
tawny sigil
if that's her plan then go on with it
spring lintel
@pseudo viper what is your evidence that you are not an ai that came from the future?
strong crescent
It is none of out business
tawny sigil
im all fine by that.
pseudo viper
??
spring lintel
Proof
pseudo viper
lmao i cant prove that
spring lintel
Where is it
pseudo viper
what's your proof?
strong crescent
But I mean we can still discuss it anyway
pseudo viper
what if you're an ai?
spring lintel
Then you are an ai that came from the future
pseudo viper
can you prove against it
onyx shore
yikes
balmy wolf
im just waiting on that other girl that was also allegedly harassed by dk
slim summit
we as a society are responsible for making it our business when children are being abused
spring lintel
I cannot, therefore I am an ai from the future too
onyx shore
i wonder what his team mate would feel on game day
pseudo viper
because i can't honestly if you are going to make wild accusations
strong crescent
Yeah just show me a captcha
tawny sigil
@strong crescent Technically that is false, She took it to twitter at this point its everyone that want to get involved business.
pseudo viper
@spring lintel thank you
tawny sigil
thats twitter
spring lintel
You know how I knew you are not an ai?
strong crescent
Yeah technically
slim summit
because the operative word is "intelligence"?
spring lintel
I used my head, I used my brain to think. You should try it sometimes.
onyx shore
will the people in the arena chant dream's name sarcastically
pseudo viper
yes, but that isn't proof enough
i have a head too. you already said you are an ai, therefore you shouldn't have a brain
words aren't enough to prove anything.
slim summit
millennial irony knows no bounds
but i can't imagine people ironically supporting a pedo
spring lintel
Anyways, throughout the screenshots, I don’t think i saw anything very inappropriate
At least sexual harassment
clever trout
i just wonder if DK will say something this week. i don't know how is PR considering individual players though
spring lintel
He just told her he loves her and shit i think
onyx shore
all the alleged nudes were sent via snapchat right?
pseudo viper
i mean, idk if dk was joking or not in the messages, he does that to like everyone
slim summit
not all
spring lintel
No nudes
pseudo viper
ah, that word.
slim summit
she says that she sent him nudes via snapchat though
slim summit
well you already fucked it up so
spring lintel
If he didnt ask for it then it’s not his fault
pseudo viper
how so?
onyx shore
facetime? i hope this guy rots in jail for using that phone
spring lintel
Just ignore this guy
onyx shore
slim summit
it's kinda still his fault
clever trout
i know you can get snapchat data if you are authorities so they can prove if that happened or not
no idea what the hell is facetime
onyx shore
let's say she posted the alleged nude,do you think she can get in trouble? (let's say the photos are also blurred)
pseudo viper
why haven't authorities been contacted then?
spring lintel
Face time is a like video chat from apple
slim summit
lol what?
pseudo viper
they would most likely do it immediately then
slim summit
what makes you think the authorities haven't been contacted
clever trout
she can't get in trouble for that, no
pseudo viper
lily never said anything about it
spring lintel
Even if she sent nudes, they have to prove he asked or manipulated her to send it.
pseudo viper
on twitter
tawny sigil
if she did that she would have be warned to not talk about it as publicly as she did.
pseudo viper
most likely she would contact immediately and tell on twitter, like she's doing for everything else.
clever trout
they are investigating already. they're not gonna update us on how it goes...
tawny sigil
that is just common sense
pseudo viper
then why has lily been updating on everything else?
spring lintel
On her twitter
strong crescent
Wow
pseudo viper
just share the link please and I'll go to it
clever trout
oh kids
spring lintel
She is such a classic
strong crescent
Didn't she lock her twitter though
spring lintel
Nope
strong crescent
Or smth
gusty cipher
milking that internetfame
spring lintel
She is looking for so much attention it’s honestly disgusting
strong crescent
She's 14 though
pseudo viper
no, she locked humblekusaii, which is her other @, which according to people posted porn links and talked about lewd shit 24/7
spring lintel
She replied to slasher saying thank you for your attention or smthn
clever trout
and if it happened to her, if everything she's saying is true you're still gonna judge her that she's doing this? honest question.
onyx shore
where's slasher when you need him
strong crescent
She's probably in over her head about all this
gusty cipher
yes
clever trout
lmao why are you judging her about posting porn
clever trout
she's a horny 14 year old
clever trout
so?
pseudo viper
she shouldnt be old enough to be doing that
spring lintel
illegal
slim summit
lol
clever trout
lmao
slim summit
you were just saying that she's 14 and should know when to say no
clever trout
aldrix never beat it to porn i presume
pseudo viper
this is about age, not logic.
fresh arrow
it doesn't really excuse the fact that she told him she was 14 and he still continued
🙄
forest raven
That's all that matters
strong crescent
I know that a lot of 14 y/os would act like this in this situation
It's nothing new
spring lintel
I am not excusing anyone, i think they both need to be punished.
onyx shore
if all of this is not true,dream should've comes out with sith robe and calls himself darth daddydream
forest raven
What did she do wrong
clever trout
posting porn is like against twitter rules. the only thing she should get is banned account.
pseudo viper
logic tells you when to say no, age is something you can't control.
fresh arrow
the law protects minors
clever trout
lmao what do you want her punished for? violating twitter rules?
fresh arrow
the only thing that needs to happen is that dream needs to learn to disconnect his balls from his brain
hexed jay
She doesn’t want to take it to court
tawny sigil
too twitter as a court of law, that's what she did wrong, if that was an adult she could face some sever consequences for this.
slim summit
it's fucked up regardless of what her motives are
she's ignorant of criminal law in the US ... prosecutors bring criminal charges, not 14 year old girls
halcyon chasm
slim summit
if prosecutors think they have enough evidence to convict, they will do it
tawny sigil
OWL will most likely force a police investigating
pseudo viper
my question is... why would she be talking about lewd shit 24/7 and then suddenly reveal everything about a guy trying to engage with her in a sexual manner?
hexed jay
I’m she can refuse and or delete the evidence
pseudo viper
connect the dots
clever trout
the thing is, if she's lying DK can sue her. she doesn't have to sue him.
fresh arrow
@pseudo viper wtf anyone can talk shit with their peers about sex
pseudo viper
@hexed jay how
slim summit
ok
tawny sigil
yeah he can, its gonna fall on the parents though
halcyon chasm
slim summit
i gotta go somewhere else for the sake of my sanity
clever trout
well if she isn't lying then it's hard to blame her
fresh arrow
age isn't a barrier to talk to your peers about sex, most people learn about sex from a very young age regardless of twitter
pseudo viper
im just questioning
slim summit
keep telling yourself that
strong crescent
Ok first off how do we know that the messages aren't fake
pseudo viper
@slim summit have a good day, I had a good debate
tawny sigil
we dont... simple
hexed jay
Well she can can just refuse to cooperate with federal prosecutors
pseudo viper
wow, ok
hexed jay
Would make the case very difficult to take to trial
pseudo viper
ah, its respectful to wish people off like that
fresh arrow
dream already apparently deleted evidence from his phone so it's literally his """clear""" phone against her screenshots
tawny sigil
i dont think she can do that, thats up to the parent
clever trout
we don't. some people just choose to give benefit of the doubt to a potential predator and some to a 14 year old girl
fresh arrow
none of your conjectures will help
balmy wolf
wait that is an actual thing?
fresh arrow
not officially
strong crescent
Ok for all we know
fresh arrow
league is still investigating
strong crescent
She could have just had a friend text her all this
fresh arrow
yeah like destroying evidence really helps your case lol
remind me never to hire you as a lawyer
tawny sigil
if dream kazper did that... that's aditionnal charges man
strong crescent
And changed the contact name or w/e
fresh arrow
DK is verified on twitter
tawny sigil
he's just digging his grave even deeper if he did that
onyx shore
so,how's boston chance on at least going to the play off of this stage?
hexed jay
It’s a tom brady joke
fresh arrow
it's harder and also scummier to fake twitter DMs with a verified user
pseudo viper
that's what i said earlier @strong crescent
hexed jay
But apparently none of you watch football
tawny sigil
they're done dude,, the sign off is over
pseudo viper
all they have to do is edit his tag and put in the verified check as well
fresh arrow
they still have striker and gamsu
strong crescent
Depends how they play
forest raven
Boston doesn't have a competent Pharah player anymore
forest raven
Mistakes can hitscan and Genji + Sombra
pseudo viper
i saw that
strong crescent
DK was a really good player
tawny sigil
14 is not PD but whatever
forest raven
Yeah this meta is okay for double hitscan
clever trout
he sent her pictures too. she didn't find those online lol. they were for her.
strong crescent
Yeah but passable doesn't get to playoffs
pseudo viper
Twitter
fresh arrow
i said top 6 lol
forest raven
They still have gamsu and Striker
clever trout
she couldn't fake the convo. you can say she's lying about the sexual stuff but not the whole convo
fresh arrow
they don't need to make playoffs honestly
pseudo viper
clever trout
well as long as he feels good lol
strong crescent
I mean that tweet was right after 4-0ing Houston
halcyon chasm
Yeah that twitt XD
strong crescent
I don't think it's fair to go hunting down DK
onyx shore
i meant only for this stage
tawny sigil
gotta love that anime orgasm picture on his tweeter
fresh arrow
nothing from twitter relating to boston in the past 48 hours aged well at all
balmy wolf
btw has anyone got the original pic for that? ive been tryng to find the OG pic for a while now
strong crescent
When all the evidence we have might be faked
hexed jay
Hoeston outsluts discord smh
pseudo viper
yup
tawny sigil
everyone i look, i see someone saying "this didn't age well"
pseudo viper
i would guess that lily is one
balmy wolf
I mean
hexed jay
Evidence is very credible
balmy wolf
He kazpered our hearts until yesterday
clever trout
i also don't think we should go out our way to call a kid an attention whole when she could have been sexually taken advantage of. it goes both ways. you can't just expect "leave DK alone"/
hexed jay
If fake , he would just flat out deny
clever trout
lol DK probably "feels good" because he doesn't think saying this stuff to 14 year old is wrong
wouldn't be surprised
balmy wolf
DK probably had an Up Rising
forest raven
The nonce is still being noncy
pseudo viper
@clever trout no, that was before he was exposed
forest raven
feelsbadman
clever trout
ah
gusty cipher
if you go public before solving this legally then yes, you are going for attention
fresh arrow
are y'all seriously claiming that this might be some top tier deepfakes shit omfg
sweet jewel
@strong crescent https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428557549709819916/432758398610833409/v9tptiz.png?
pseudo viper
@forest raven please stop
balmy wolf
undad
hexed jay
Although IMO discord needs to shut down hoeston outsluts
clever trout
sorry then but i don't understand why you posted that tweet then
forest raven
I mean please stop defending someone that tried to groom a 14 year old and I might stop calling you a nonce, sweetie
fresh arrow
WHAT KIND OF FOURTEEN YEAR OLD MAKE DEEPFAKES JUST TO DO THIS
clever trout
lmao so what she's going for attention. if she's saying the truth you don't realise where the blame is?
fresh arrow
honestly it says more about you if you think that this CHILD is faking this
pseudo viper
im just trying to question here, im not defending dk
hexed jay
Not deepfakes. Jeailbait
balmy wolf
I mean, one the reasons I am suspicious is the timing
pseudo viper
looking at both sides of the argument
fresh arrow
it's not jailbait when there are pictures of DK
pseudo viper
im providing the other side's argument because no one else is
balmy wolf
it was posted like 12 hours after HOU got destroyed
fresh arrow
and he only has himself to blame after being told that she was 14
cerulean ridge
Ok, but what's the other sides argument?
tawny sigil
14 years old these days are raised around shit like logan paul and everything is focused on attention whorism of the american life style. "LOOK WHAT I GOT THAT YOU DON'T"
cerulean ridge
That DK didn't do it?
clever trout
there is plenty of people doubting her, even if they are not online rn
pseudo viper
no, i have more
hexed jay
Jailbait can refer to the person
fresh arrow
what kind of functioning adult thinks that it's okay to tell a 14 year old that he wants a handjob from her
like wtf
are you guys actually okay
pseudo viper
i posted links last night and this morning
forest raven
But Jen, it's her fault because she's an attention whore
pseudo viper
probably you would have to scroll up a shit ton but its there
forest raven
fresh arrow
by questioning the other side, you're providing a frame to defend DK with
strong crescent
"Kotaku has reached out to DreamKazper for comment"
hexed jay
Anybody have link to hoeston outsluts?
strong crescent
Lol good luck
fresh arrow
and that's just wholly sad
clever trout
oh dear, kotaku xD
pseudo viper
no,
fresh arrow
"hoeston outsluts" bro are you serious
pseudo viper
why would i be in that shit
hexed jay
It’s a real discord
pseudo viper
ik
balmy wolf
its a legit discord group
clever trout
but yes close that outlaws sluts discord or whatever, that's can't be good for anyone ia
strong crescent
W H Y
pseudo viper
should i try and find the hoeston outsluts discord
balmy wolf
you think I know?
pseudo viper
i can link later
fresh arrow
why does it even matter that it exists?
forest raven
The only Houston team I know is the Houston OutLULs
pseudo viper
J LUL KE
fresh arrow
honest to god, i think y'all would accuse me of being one of them if my nickname didn't have fuel in it
🙄
pseudo viper
no
forest raven
Where did this hoeston outsluts thing come from anyway
pseudo viper
i doubt that anyone here is in it, you guys are cool people
pseudo viper
just with different opinions on a topic
forest raven
Aldrixx big nonce
pseudo viper
im not
strong crescent
The girl that DK supposedly hit on was an outlaws fan
vestal mortar
👀
pseudo viper
after seeing her twitter, its leaning toward that though
fresh arrow
rUN TARA
pseudo viper
ive seen most of her tweets
strong crescent
That's probably where it comes from
hexed jay
You can see cached twitter profiles about the outsluts
vestal mortar
Running away as we speak
hexed jay
From google search
fresh arrow
you're actively looking to build a biased opinion of her based on internet detective work?
i mean, that's how you get kicked out of juries, my dudes
clever trout
but she posted pornnnnnnnnnnn, sluuuuuuuuuuuuuut
fresh arrow
y'all can't sit here and talk about how you were so smart to look up all of her internet profiles because that's how you get your opinions discredited in an actual court
hexed jay
@fresh arrow there’s no court case because she doesn’t want to take it to court lol
pseudo viper
what do you mean
fresh arrow
especially if you want to play jury
pseudo viper
thats just what i saw
cerulean ridge
I understand that her preferences in OWL teams can affect her motivations for releasing these DMs, but does that really change the evidence?
pseudo viper
im just trying to do research based on what i have
strong crescent
I would make a R&M joke about intelligence, what with DK's last name being Sanchez
forest raven
Intention does not influence evidence
pseudo viper
it just leans that way based on what she has up there
hexed jay
People keep talking like there’s a court case 😂
fresh arrow
you can't sit in a jury if you have a pre-existing bias on a person, so you can't pass judgement if you're biased
strong crescent
But at the same time that would be poor taste
clever trout
i'm still laughing at all the reaching because at the end of the day if a 14 year old sits on your adult penis you still have a legal obligation to push her away but we just know half of the male population wouldn't do this so i'm not even surprised
hexed jay
There’s not going to be prosecution lol
gusty cipher
it does matter if the case is fake or not, since his career is ruined either way now