twitter would have to do that
#esports-discussion
pseudo viper
tacit tartan
...
stuck meadow
he could have a power outage
twin dove
look em in a padded room lol
tacit tartan
Your ISP could fucking cut your service
twin dove
lock*
tacit tartan
Your electronics could die
pseudo viper
@stuck meadow well, i doubt that though
balmy wolf
Why would he have a power outage at this specific time?
tacit tartan
You could be sick
stuck meadow
Aldrixx mainly a joke
balmy wolf
ah ok
twin dove
idk why would i have a power outrage in the middle of a raid going terribly? 
pseudo viper
@tacit tartan because someone emailed the company saying that this person is a pedo? u sure?
stuck meadow
But who knows
tacit tartan
...
pearl stratus
You could also not respond because it creates a bigger shitstorm.
tacit tartan
^
stuck meadow
^
paper crag
is this still DK?
pseudo viper
HE HASNT BEEN ON TWITTER TODAY
pearl stratus
Why would he.
paper crag
OK, it's still DK
tacit tartan
...
pearl stratus
Tinythot makes an accusation.
tacit tartan
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ISNT ON TWITTER DOES NOT MEAN THEY'RE NOT ONLINE
pearl stratus
The worst thing he could do would be to respond to any of it.
pseudo viper
the thing is
pseudo viper
this drama came up today though
floral wasp
Being silent is the best thing he can do for himself right now
twin dove
especially by urself, u say stupid shit in drama when ur by urself
grizzled trout
I just want to see what happens in the end and see the wrong ppl wrong and right ppl right
tacit tartan
pearl stratus
If its something you can get ahead of, sure. This isn't something you try and get ahead of.
If you honestly think DK should have said anything on twitter today you're like.
The biggest of monster tards.
floral wasp
This isn’t just # drama tho lmao
pearl stratus
You're the guy from the Green Mile Monster Tard.
floral wasp
It’s illegal and morally reprehensible activity
balmy wolf
monster sized retard?
pearl stratus
It's illegal on both ends if alll accusations are true.
stuck meadow
sounds like monster shit
pearl stratus
Thats what makes it such good drama.
floral wasp
Ew
pseudo viper
@tacit tartan do you not comprehend a thing im saying
tacit tartan
I do
stuck meadow
The OWL is such a fucking shitshow man
pseudo viper
blizzard cant cut out his power god damn
tacit tartan
WHO SAID IT HAD TO BE BLIZZARD
pearl stratus
It's not the OWL, this is honestly just real life.
pseudo viper
ONLY THE CABLE COMPANY CAN CUT OUT HIS POWER
stuck meadow
No I mean
pearl stratus
You think this shit doesn't happen on the internet like... every hour?
stuck meadow
Too much drama has been associated with them
twin dove
he's in the teamhouse, they are 100% controlling the situation guys
be realistic
lol
floral wasp
^^
pearl stratus
Eh none of its real drama that matters.
balmy wolf
@pseudo viper what are you guys talking about?
stuck meadow
xQc drama is whatever
pearl stratus
To anyone outside of the league he just sounds like an idiot and they ignore it.
tacit tartan
xQc is fucking... xQc
pseudo viper
@balmy wolf mirai says that people can simply just cut out dk's power
pearl stratus
Tairong meme drama? Same thing
Eqo drama? Not even drama, just a situation that was well handled.
balmy wolf
I think that was a joke
tacit tartan
Power =/= Internet access
pearl stratus
Depends on the outcome.
stuck meadow
There have been some juicy dallas leaks that were funny tho
pseudo viper
@balmy wolf if so, they should try and make it a bit more obvious that it's a joke
pearl stratus
Right now its just drama.
pseudo viper
@tacit tartan READ WHAT YOU JUST SAID YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT POWER LINES
pearl stratus
We could find out in two days she made up half of it with the Houston Whores discord.
We could find out the other way.
torpid charm
ah he said, she said. noooo
pearl stratus
So for right now, its just drama.
tacit tartan
I just said something different from power lines
balmy wolf
@pearl stratus Houston Whores?
pseudo viper
ok sorry
floral wasp
If we find out it’s fake, the damage is still done to his career
stuck meadow
Yeah wtf is the Houston whores
tacit tartan
Nebby be nice
floral wasp
That’s why it’s serious
stuck meadow
some kind of joke?
pseudo viper
you said isp and internet service
pearl stratus
Yeah its a bunch of 14 year old girls discord.
pseudo viper
still though
stuck meadow
Oh hell no
pearl stratus
They literally call themselves something like "Hoeston Outsluts"
balmy wolf
so the 14 year old girls have a private discord...?
pseudo viper
blizz cant cut out people's internet service lmao
pearl stratus
Thats their actual name
balmy wolf
that sounds very fucked
pearl stratus
I am not making that up
floral wasp
I don’t understand why the name is a point of contention
balmy wolf
and odd for 15 year olds to call themselvres
grizzled trout
Teens always name chats wierd shit
tacit tartan
WHO SAID IT WOULD BE BLIZZARD
pearl stratus
It's weird psuedo groupies.
tacit tartan
ITS THE TEAM THAT WOULD DO IT
floral wasp
Have y’all MET a 15 year old?????
tacit tartan
Fuck this I'm going to bed
balmy wolf
im a 15 year old
pseudo viper
@pearl stratus are they the ones that exposed dk
twin dove
@pseudo viper he lives in the teamhouse, they can cut w/e they want
balmy wolf
ouch
floral wasp
alright well I’m done
pearl stratus
His contract allows it to be cut too.
floral wasp
because clearly you don’t take this seriously
pseudo viper
@twin dove oh now that makes sense
pearl stratus
Streaming rights etc are all in the org contracts.
onyx shore
dude,if you're dreamkazper and you're 100% sure you're innocent,you should speak
onyx shore
staying silent wont help a bit
pseudo viper
they said isp?
pearl stratus
This isn't a situation where speaking out is a good idea in any situation.
onyx shore
if you're innocent
pearl stratus
Because it just causes issues.
onyx shore
and that's a big IF
pearl stratus
Nope, still wrong.
balmy wolf
You don't know how contracts work then ark
twin dove
Turns into a He Said She Said war on twitter
onyx shore
do you know how his contract work wolfy?
twin dove
no one wins that shit
pearl stratus
You sit there and do whatever your org and your lawyers say and just that.
grizzled trout
AnYonE bOrn After 1995 Is FuCkIng UsEless, hey look I'm edgy I hate everyone
pearl stratus
If they say make a statement, you make a statement.
balmy wolf
^^^
pearl stratus
Beyond that you sit down, shut up and let people do what they need to do.
onyx shore
if dream is innocent,then boston has been doing a pretty crappy job on defending him
if he's innocent
pearl stratus
Boston is doing their job properly.
You don't speak up until you have everything you need.
pseudo viper
@onyx shore boston doesnt know if he is innocent or not tho
onyx shore
if we assume dream is guilty,yes
pearl stratus
So you do your research then you talk.
Even if you assume he's innocent.
Because at the end of it you dont' want to find out you're wrong.
Makes the org look bad.
They suspended him indefinitely, they'll do an investigation.
Then they'll release a statement;
Thats the smartest way to do it.
onyx shore
damn,his career is kinda over either way,right?
pearl stratus
Depends how fast the investigation concludes, basically.
If its still fresh news and they find out she was lying, he's fine.
If its 8 months later, he's fucked.
If she's not lying, he's fucked.
onyx shore
stuck meadow
His booty gonna be fucked.. lmao
pearl stratus
He won't go to jail unless they can recover any photographic evidence of anything.
pseudo viper
talking in here has made me believe that dk is innocent a bit... everyone who argues against him doesnt have good proof.
pearl stratus
Beyond that is just contribution to the delinquency of a minor.
Registry and probation.
stuck meadow
bue
pearl stratus
Maybe an ISP probation, etc.
torpid charm
bue
onyx shore
can they subpoena(?) snapchat for photo proof
balmy wolf
I don't understand why the girl didn't give evidence that he "sexually manipulated", asked for nudes, or sent nudes to her
pearl stratus
If they want to, yes.
But that can hurt her too.
Because if she gave him them back, she gets to go on the registry too
balmy wolf
she just kinda said it
pearl stratus
If his lawyer is any good.
Photographs are double edged for all parties involved when underage.
You have to remember this is a subject in which a boyfriend and girlfriend... god this was like 6 years ago?
Both got charged for distribution and creation of child porn.
Because they videod themselves having sex.
torpid charm
ion really have an opinion on it. from personal experience, this shit is so messy. but for right now, I can't really be on either side and I can't bash either side so I'm just waiting to hear about what will be done
pearl stratus
In a consentual relationship.
But they were both like 15-16.
So its a touchy subject for all parties.
torpid charm
it is
ember jewel
14 is below consent age pretty much anywhere, right?
onyx shore
not everywhere
here you can marry 14 yo if her parents give consent,sounds fucked up but true
ember jewel
That's what I mean by "pretty much", there's always some random state
pearl stratus
Bad shit have come out after the fact from both parties.
torpid charm
hella messy
pearl stratus
So its still 50-50.
Her DM's to other people about wanting the free shit and wanting to date an OWL so badly don't help etc.
balmy wolf
Someone please give me links so i can get more context
pearl stratus
I mean yes, for all intents and purposes he's fucked.
But how fucked is now whats in question.
ember jewel
He'll just be registered as a sex offender and let go tho
torpid charm
there's a lot of things to be taken into account in this situation
pearl stratus
He might not even have that Boss.
It's all circumstantial at the moment.
Is it creepy texts? Sure, but nothing inherently bad about them at the moment.
ember jewel
No physical contact, and no pics found on his hardware(unless he's dumb AF)
torpid charm
I'm sure they're looking for pictures and such now
pearl stratus
Because there's no proof on her end either except for her word.
And her word will get all her shit dragged in too.
bitter nebula
YIKES
pearl stratus
Because the best defense is character assassination.
ember jewel
She said she possess the nudes, but didn't share to not expose it to the whole internet
So yeah, should her really have that
pearl stratus
That's achange because earlier she said she didn't have anything.
pseudo viper
Not only that
pearl stratus
And if she only has her own nudes, that will screw her over worse than him.
If his lawyers at all competent.
balmy wolf
Did she send stuff too?
tacit tartan
twin dove
kind've unfortunate regardless of who is right and who is wrong, if she's lying....whelp....shes in for a ride.
bitter nebula
endo what are you arguing
balmy wolf
If she did then she could get herself into trouble
tacit tartan
That's how I feel about people who don't try to put themselves in her place
bitter nebula
whats endo arguing
pearl stratus
I'm arguing that right now all there is is a creepy as fuck conversation.
And nothing else.
bitter nebula
YIKES
tacit tartan
Endo that's not true
grizzled trout
sugarcoating
tacit tartan
Dream looks like he's attempting to mask an attempt at getting sexually explicit messages from her
pseudo viper
We don't even know that she sent nudes other than her word
balmy wolf
Baiting her?
pearl stratus
And in some of the messages you can argue she is baiting him back.
Which makes it moot.
Yes, he's still creepy as fuck.
twin dove
honestly like i've said before, his texts make him look like an exhibitionist to me
lol
pearl stratus
But it doesn't prove anything beyond him being creepy as fuck.
tacit tartan
Him baiting her is not
stuck meadow
Thats fine?
tacit tartan
Legally that's the way it goes
pearl stratus
No its not. That still makes her fucked up.
stuck meadow
Since when?
pearl stratus
Being a 14 year old sociopath is not fine.
balmy wolf
yeah the 14 year old is fucked up
pearl stratus
You don't get free pass on being a whore because you're 14.
grizzled trout
Legally she said
ember jewel
There's also the problem that she said "she found out he was talking to other girls", and by the context, they were minors too, should any of those girls come to light, we're seeing jail time for sure
tacit tartan
Legally, Dream still is at a disadvantage even if she baits
It's a simple matter of fact.
pearl stratus
Yes, but legally right now all there is is a creepy conversation.
tacit tartan
...
balmy wolf
I know it doesn't mean that what DK did (assuming it is true) was okay
pearl stratus
With no pictures or anything nothing is legally wrong yet.
tacit tartan
You people... are so fucking hard to logically reason with...
balmy wolf
how mirai?
twin dove
lol
pearl stratus
Because you're playing the victim card on her behalf.
And not being logical at all.
onyx shore
damnit,dream's pfp of that female mc cree cracks me up everytime i look at the pict
balmy wolf
there wasnt anything wrong last tiem I checked
tacit tartan
I'm not saying what she did was right
balmy wolf
it was just DK being cringy as fuck
stuck meadow
@tacit tartan At this point it just seems like you're blindly siding with the kid
pearl stratus
There's literally no physical proof of any wrong doing except for her word that it happened.
balmy wolf
unless im being retarded and im forgetting something
pearl stratus
That's not good enough for anything.
tacit tartan
But what I'm more concerned about is Dream, and adult's, behavior. He knew she was underage. He knew she was 14. And yet he does this?
pearl stratus
And no one is defending that part.
stuck meadow
No one said he isnt a creep lol
pearl stratus
But -legally- there's not wrong with being a creep.
bitter nebula
hes just creepy tho
tacit tartan
I don't count him as just creepy.
bitter nebula
if someone threatens to murder some in depth its just him being, agressive
thats all
pearl stratus
A person can walk into a police station and say "I like fucking 9 year olds"
And they can't do anything.
tacit tartan
Not with that many messages going as 'creepy' as he gets
bitter nebula
C R E E P Y
tacit tartan
So you're saying he belongs in OWL then?
pearl stratus
No, and no one else is arguing that.
stuck meadow
When did he say that
pearl stratus
Stop being a victim.
tacit tartan
Because if this shit flies with OWL, then I'm not hanging around lol
pearl stratus
Literally no one said that.
supple prism
i dont know nearly enough about the law to say anything is or isnt illegal
stuck meadow
Are you blind?
twin dove
he's probably inhouse grounded by the Team too
tacit tartan
He can still end up unsuspended and nothing can result from this
stuck meadow
"nothing"
twin dove
ya, if hes not guilty, unless we're going into conspiracy theories
stuck meadow
His whole career has negative repuation surrounding it now
pearl stratus
In all fairness that won't happen, he's most likely going to be released whether physical evidence is found or not.
stuck meadow
That doesnt sound like nothing to me
bitter nebula
twin dove
stop fking linking that
bitter nebula
creepy
twin dove
christ
tacit tartan
Congrats, your career is fucked for the next 40 years.
stuck meadow
Well I mean hes forever gonna be known like that one creepy dude in the dms
so whatever
pearl stratus
I mean it worked for Kephrii, so he can make a big career streaming.
But people are just automatically making this girl into a victim, and she doesn't have to be one for the situation to be wrong.
stuck meadow
Kephrii what?
pearl stratus
You don't get a free pass for being underage.
stuck meadow
what happened with him
pearl stratus
Kephrii cheated on his wife in dms etc, rumors some were 16 etc.
Still has tons of subs.
stuck meadow
Rip
pearl stratus
Eh rumors were for underage too
But no one followed up on it.
This won't be a "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE" situation.
Because its a he said she said both are going to have their character examined.
So just gotta get ready for it.
stuck meadow
Dead chat
pearl stratus
Logic does that sometimes 😛
balmy wolf
Theres nothing else really to say
grizzled trout
U can't say alot
twin dove
A Lot.
hexed jay
how did kephrii get wraxu banned?
twin dove
Boom said it.
balmy wolf
We cant confirm anything
grizzled trout
Other than say he's not that bad but with lots of words
twin dove
drops mic
grizzled trout
Or he is bad
pearl stratus
It'll get juicier in the days to come as we know more. But both of them are going to have their shit torn apart.
Both him and her.
grizzled trout
Lul
ember jewel
Endo is playing Dream's lawyer, so not a lot to be said
pearl stratus
Nah I think he's fucked either way.
I just don't automatically side with her either.
stuck meadow
Didnt you say earlier that if its proven that hes innocent in like a few days hes good?
Why is he fucked either way now?
balmy wolf
thats scary
bitter nebula
can someone link the dms. need to see if there is proof
balmy wolf
you can fuck up someones career this easy?
balmy wolf
Sexual registry? He wouldn't have to register if he's innocent regardless his career is ruined from accusations alone
onyx shore
don't stick your dick in crazy chic
grizzled trout
lol
pearl stratus
Minor doesn't exclude it, depends on what happened.
bitter nebula
anyone got the tweets and dms link?
pearl stratus
There are 14 year old boys and girls on the registry now from over-reaching lawyers that charged them for distributing child porn.
grizzled trout
jetto ur just gonna resend it 100 times
pearl stratus
It's stupid, but its happened. Quite a bit actually.
forest wharf
surefour's stream title lol https://www.twitch.tv/surefour
twin dove
reddit has them somewhere as usual, traverse around reddit
balmy wolf
@bitter nebula https://postimg.org/gallery/3jb6etf4g/
grizzled trout
hehe ur trolling now
bitter nebula
yikes
grizzled trout
YoInkS
twin dove
ya he's done that like 5 times now, and its the most tame of all the DMs
what a twat
lol
onyx shore
don't let your dream be memes
pearl stratus
I mean the rest of them don't even get that much worse. The only one thats YIKES is the weird as shit handjob message.
The rest are just a social awkward person being creepy af.
stuck meadow
Yeah thats the weirdest shit
twin dove
pretty sure he mentioned a dick in his butt a few times
bitter nebula
i think the yikes part is the part he msgs and responds to a 15yr old
but maybe thats me
grizzled trout
Doesnt dream go to like every team signing
pearl stratus
Welcome to the internet.
stuck meadow
But the "cold makes my nipples hard as diamonds" I couldnt help but laugh tbh
pearl stratus
Assume everyone has a dick, and is a child.
And never send pictures.
Rules #1 and #2 right off the bat.
stuck meadow
lmao yep
pearl stratus
Yeah, its weird. But in context not the weirdest of them
stuck meadow
oh man
onyx shore
14% accuracy
twin dove
Can your 8inches beat my diamond nipples!?!?!?
pearl stratus
I remember my friends and I basically saying that kind of dumb shit when we were young.
stuck meadow
the twitch chat on wednsday and thursday is gonna be insane
pearl stratus
"It's a tit bit nippley" outside, etc.
twin dove
hardcore Moderating here we come!
stuck meadow
LOL
torpid charm
tbt to Cwoosh's nipple problems
tranquil verge
diamond nipples will be my team name for the overwatch contenders
stuck meadow
they gonna have to blacklist the word pedo
twin dove
ha
tranquil verge
taking applications now
forest wharf
best part is undoubtably "call me sugar daddy dream"
stuck meadow
sign me up
twin dove
one of the streamers needs a diamond nipples emote
tranquil verge
DDK
onyx shore
the part that cringes me up is the "choke me daddy" part
twin dove
did he call her master at some point?
pearl stratus
See the problem with the choke me daddy thing
balmy wolf
"Choke me daddy"?
pearl stratus
Is thats become a meme all on its own.
twin dove
or can i just not read DMs worth shit?
balmy wolf
Did she say that?
forest wharf
yea he did
bitter phoenix
Never send nudes if you are a guy.
pearl stratus
But there's a ton of random choke me daddy memes now.
bitter phoenix
No point
balmy wolf
Ok that's super wierd
torpid charm
keepy your pee pee
bitter nebula
its all bad, you cant defend him talking to a 15yr old and having these msgs prolonged
forest wharf
i just want the taimou reading
balmy wolf
Not the "choke me daddy" but the fact that he said that to her lol
bitter nebula
he shoudnt have exchanged more than 3 texts
balmy wolf
"Choke me daddy" has been a thing for a while tbh
torpid charm
I love Obama lol
pearl stratus
It's a meme.
balmy wolf
It really isn't though lol
pearl stratus
It really is though.
balmy wolf
It's an actual fetish
pearl stratus
Do you know HOW many choke me daddy memes exist?
balmy wolf
Wasn't the handjob thing in response to the 14 year old girl texting him a picture of Edward Scissorhands?
pearl stratus
Regardless of the fetish?
stuck meadow
its also a meme though
torpid charm
people say that all the time, lol
onyx shore
@balmy wolf any proof of that?
bitter nebula
my gf says that to me
pearl stratus
Not detracting from the creepy factor.
bitter nebula
but shes 21
pearl stratus
But it is a meme.
balmy wolf
It's been a thing for waay longer than just today obviously...
onyx shore
i havent been able to find the edward scissorhand post
balmy wolf
hold on someone sent me a photo @formal vaporediaz#5606 ill try and find it
forest wharf
guys, guys. dreamkazper has a discord
stuck meadow
This Arkades person is gonna have so many pings for no reason
pearl stratus
Good job millenials 😛
bitter nebula
i bet his discord has a bunch of white knights like endo saying its creepy but fine
supple prism
how long was this going on for?
balmy wolf
Don't tell me that 76 i'm being sarcastic at this point
how is endo being a white knight?
stuck meadow
@balmy wolf Oh
pearl stratus
I dont think he's fine.
I just try not to wear my colon as a hat.
I find shoving my head up my ass very uncomfortable for the spine.
twin dove
@balmy wolf that image u were sent
its different from this one https://postimg.org/image/bpdjl5hmn/
torpid charm
what is a "white knight"
stuck meadow
someone who defends egirls at any cost
balmy wolf
Kek
bitter nebula
im not clickign that
stuck meadow
typically a dude
bitter nebula
i feel disrty
hexed jay
ARE YOU DEAD?
bitter nebula
just reading it
hexed jay
I want it to be a meme
onyx shore
@pearl stratus i;m gonna steal that
pearl stratus
It's a good one. There's another one Ark. Hold on I'll find it for you
balmy wolf
torpid charm
never heard that term before, well ya learn something knew everyday 
forest wharf
ok dk's discord is pretty hilarious right now
hexed jay
The ads on that site lol
stuck meadow
invite?
forest wharf
pretty sure the bot will remove invite links, just google it
torpid charm
@hexed jay the ads are so funny lol
balmy wolf
"I wonder what it would feel like if you were to choke the fucking life out of me with those hands" uwu
pearl stratus
Honestly until DM's/Discord stuff gets investigated by the proper channels.
IT's relatively useless.
twin dove
i know, just weird that there's 2 images with same text, but slightly different
kinda helps a certain narrative
haha
onyx shore
@forest wharf can you DM me the link?
pearl stratus
DMs, Texts, etc, are super easy to fake.
forest wharf
just google "dreamkazper discord"
bitter nebula
doesnt come up
balmy wolf
nothing comes up
stuck meadow
only thing i got is BU discord
bitter nebula
maybe it got nuked
stuck meadow
send it in dms
forest wharf
lol auto deleted
bitter nebula
rip
forest wharf
https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/DreamKazper remove the "|DreamKazper's" from their broken link
bitter nebula
NUKED
stuck meadow
hella expired
forest wharf
because you didnt remove the from |DreamKazper's the end of the link
stuck meadow
i did
bitter nebula
link
balmy wolf
F
supple prism
its called daddy dream?
balmy wolf
on the link I got theres no line in front
twin dove
ah apparently they locked down the BU discord
balmy wolf
jetto can u just dm me?
supple prism
and this is an official one? doesnt look like it
bitter nebula
im pretty sure his discord might be locked by now tho
supple prism
im on his discord
bitter nebula
oh
supple prism
doubt this is it though
forest wharf
thats whats on his profile idk
forest wharf
also in his stream's command list
https://beta.nightbot.tv/t/dreamkazper/commands if you search for discord
supple prism
ok
pearl stratus
On a tangent. Clockwork accidently bussed the shit out of Mendo on the Oversight stream with Monte.
grizzled trout
I saw that
forest wharf
yea idk if one of the admins fucked with it or what lol
pearl stratus
Custa also confirmed that Cocco will basically never be back in OWL 😦
onyx shore
yikes,why?
bitter nebula
do you guys like monte?
onyx shore
attitude problem?
onyx shore
as a caster or as a person?
pearl stratus
Just that he's done, really. As a player it sounded like.
bitter nebula
or both
onyx shore
good caster
pearl stratus
There was legit reasons he didn't show up at all stage 2, and the fact they went forward with Mickie basically means hes done.
balmy wolf
LOL
supple prism
whos cocco?
onyx shore
i like him better than mr X
pearl stratus
The organization is looking for what to do for his future.
bitter nebula
is he the best?
balmy wolf
I JUST GOT KICKED FROM THEIR DISCORD
onyx shore
well
pearl stratus
And Clockwork bussed Mendo.
pearl stratus
And said that Mendo basically never shows up to vod reviews, etc, etc.
bitter nebula
im tryign to find th name of the one guy I cant stand
pearl stratus
He doesn't actually show up the studio anymore. Monte casually mentioned he's never even seen him at the studio.
balmy wolf
i just got kicked from the dream guys discord as soon as I mentioned him being accused
bitter nebula
lol
twin dove
lol
balmy wolf
I didnt say it in an accusing tone
bitter nebula
what are they saying
balmy wolf
I was on there for a total of like 2 minutes
all I said is "Is this the discord of the guy that was accused?"
supple prism
hmm
balmy wolf
ill pm you and anyone else who wants the link
bitter nebula
what are they talking about
pearl stratus
I mean you said that in the most retarded way possible lol
Of course they kicked you.
balmy wolf
how should i have worded it?
supple prism
well they didnt kick me
pearl stratus
"Is this Dreamkazpers discord?
You literally poked a wasp nest.
Then got confused you got stung.
balmy wolf
fair enough
limber pine
go to taimou's discord and tell him he hacks next
pearl stratus
It's their discord, they can do whatever they want. Coming in and poking it in a term that basically says you kind of want to start something (when its probably been happening all day)
You're going to get banned.
supple prism
you said test again
limber pine
well yeah
pearl stratus
So they kicked you for it.
limber pine
getting kicked does that
pearl stratus
Didn't ban you.
bitter nebula
they are about to ban me nebby
supple prism
eh, i left it. i got enough discords to keep up with
limber pine
please don't go running to other discords and be ass hats
bitter nebula
im not
supple prism
running? please
bitter nebula
i just asked about thoughts
limber pine
in their discord?
forest wharf
staying idle there for extra drama when more news hits
supple prism
its not like they have any more info than you
bitter nebula
they should shut it down for while for new entries
lethal plank
i love reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/8aton8/owl_dreamkazper_suspended_indefinitely_while_the/dx1ktbc/
lethal plank
the biggest drama bomb has yet to come
bitter nebula
can someeon explain when this spring season or "split" actual finals are
y u say that music
lethal plank
there's always a more interesting drama in the future
something like Muma not being gay
i mean that would be a huge shock wouldn't it
forest wharf
idk, this will be pretty hard to beat for a while
pearl stratus
God I forgot about this video. Use this to make you feel better about every OW game you play. This things old af but still a riot.
bitter nebula
the drama will come to an end
lethal plank
drama never ends
torpid charm
there will always be drama, big or small
glass orbit
Can anyone explain to me exactly what's happened with Dreamkazper?
onyx shore
@glass orbit accused of sexting with minors,allegedly also including sending nudes
twilit mulch
one person is gonna come out of that drama looking like a horrible person, and whatever happens, dreamkazpers career is dead
the damage has already been done
even if he stays in the owl, he is gonna be known as the guy who "speaks" to children
ember jewel
although it's not like it's anyone else's fault
glacial sleet
welp
looks like ow going downhill for good
dreamkazper sext allegations
wraxu getting banned for a week
fresh turret
Does anyone have like a somewhat okay tl:dr for the dreamkazper situation because I do not feel like running through a fuckton of posts to see if I find anything that's true about one of my fav players being a perv or something
forest wharf
silk linden
lethal plank
OmegaLUL
slim summit
gusty cipher
presenting the ow tmobile mvp drama lineup:
8inches
undad
trihard7
dreamcozby
tawny sigil
Well boston is done
young sonnet
xqc about to announce his come back with replacing kasper in boston.
forest wharf
teengrazpr
tawny sigil
This will give the owl some perspective about all the petty shit they have been fining and suspending
Now they got a real problem... not some stupid interpretation
young sonnet
I mean all the league has to do is just get rid of him and hand this over to the authorities.
twilit forum
you can definitely go full PR
and save the league
im sure the OWL will know how to do this
if the investigation reveals truth, they will just release a long statement saying it has been handed to the authorities and dreamkazper is being released
i mean what else can they do
the rest can be done by bought shills
on reddit/twitter etc
tawny sigil
Owl is fine... this just make the other stuff completly meaningless
tawny sigil
Fucking stupid you mean
twilit forum
apparently racist for saying hes korean while slanting his eye
racist btw
who got offended?
white ppl
xddddddddddddddddddd
only a few asians got offended
but most really dont give a single flying fuck
tawny sigil
That's what I mean by interpretation
twilit forum
because they really dont care and move on to better things
but since xqc got suspended for trihard + r word
everyone wants everyone suspended
for tiny things
its 100% their mistake for starting it
tawny sigil
Someone thought that might be offensive ...not, this is offensive
onyx shore
dude
try doing asian eye gesture in front of asian people
ask them if it's offensive or not
i still think eqo's total punishment is ridiculous though,he should still be allowed to stream
but him claiming not knowing that asian eye gesture is offensive,while talking about koreans is just load of bull
slim summit
"only white people got offended about [thing]" - people that only talk to white people
twilit forum
xd
gusty cipher
white people like to get offended for others
twilit forum
the ones on the left yes
im white and i really find it funny when ppl call me a cracker
like srsly how to get offended by words
gusty cipher
nah, its pretty even on the whole political spectrum
balmy wolf
This didn't age well https://imgur.com/a/kBrwo
gaunt acorn
tawny sigil
Look at time stamps... then you see 10h and under and its all bout this
balmy wolf
memes and dreams my dude
tawny sigil
it was bound to happen, didn't expect it so soon
balmy wolf
we real sports now
tawny sigil
we missing a wife beater
oh that's right... no one in the league is american and married
deft valley
how about no
tawny sigil
yeah didnt think so, that would be mean
wonder how they're gonna explain that dream kasper is not in the league anymore, i can't imagine them even mentionning anything about the allegations
balmy wolf
them literally saying what he is
tawny sigil
that's not really possible thought i don't think
tawny sigil
that's not gonna happen i don't think
balmy wolf
or you know the casual kraft money
tawny sigil
i'd see them ignoring the subject 100% over them hjust saying what it is
they want to avoid any association with any scandal of this magnitude
OWL already looks terrible right now in therm of PR.
onyx shore
they probably will update the situation on owl website
deft valley
not really
onyx shore
let's say it's true
they will just do the same announcement like it was in xqc
and then be done with it
no mention on broadcast or anything
tawny sigil
i can see them aknowledging it on the website, but not live when boston plays or on watchpoint
balmy wolf
ok saying that someone in the league is a racist is different from someone trying to diddle a kid
of course not on watchpoint
they might actually have to do an official statement shit idk
tawny sigil
they did aknowledge XQC suspension live, and they did mention it heavily on watchpoint
tawny sigil
very curious how they're gonna take this one on. Cause this one actually makes them and the entire owl roster bad
balmy wolf
yeah but one, you dont want to talk about that kind of shit on comedic news skits
two it makes a bad taste on any ground unless they make an actual speech
deft valley
I don’t think they’re publicizing it until the investigation is complete
balmy wolf
^
tawny sigil
yeah at this point that would just be liable
i mean its internet shit, like how many of us actually saw proof that weren't from a freaking random youtube video.
red anvil
thet arent gone talk about it no, they will just say he is suspended pending an investigation
same as twitter
bitter phoenix
How old is he? Like 18?
red anvil
21
pseudo viper
21
bitter phoenix
He looks 12
tawny sigil
considering the state america is in these past few years, i could easily imagine a 40 Years old SJW that just hate dreamkazper doing everything they can to ruin his career AS MUCH as all of this being all true.
balmy wolf
Welp if they can contact snapshot and ask them about their databanks
Cuz they do store that shit
bitter phoenix
Based in the screen caps he hasn't done anything illegal. I'm assuming the rest is just the girl claims he sent nudes right?
red anvil
trough court prbably
pseudo viper
tbh if you actually investigate the situation you can find some decent evidence against the supposed "victim"
tawny sigil
unless a court statement comes out, i don't care for that kind of stuff
balmy wolf
According to the girl she sent nudes to him and this one time he jacked off on facetime
pseudo viper
but we dont know if thats true
deft valley
it doesn’t have to be illegal for Blizzard to fire him for it
That said it should have to be confirmed
bitter phoenix
From what I've read so far nothing they have actual screen caps of is illegal just a bit creepy
red anvil
take everything she says with a grain of salt
tawny sigil
to me the fact that you post that shit on the internet rather than report it to the police is a bit messed up and show clear sign of ill intent.
balmy wolf
Of course I take it with a grain of salt
red anvil
like reason those pictures were publisised was because of revenge
bitter phoenix
She probably wanted something and he didn't give it
tawny sigil
well that's always what it is
balmy wolf
She literally posted this stuff the day after her favorite team got humiliated by his team
red anvil
well this is a new type of revenge
tawny sigil
welcome to america 2018
balmy wolf
More like stupid kids
red anvil
houston fans are a special type of fans
pseudo viper
Twitter
tawny sigil
worst part is if this is all fake. we all know dreamkazper is still not coming back no matter what
red anvil
he would come back but i dont see this being fake
balmy wolf
Hold on
tawny sigil
as i said welcome to america 2018... fuck due process
balmy wolf
I can actually find some shit via Twitter api
and the girl has not given any proof of him asking for or sending nudes
pseudo viper
@balmy wolf ayy u back
balmy wolf
ya
pseudo viper
if you look on lily's twitter account you can find evidence against the person
here's an example
deft valley
i don’t see how what you posted is proof “against” her in any way
red anvil
^
pseudo viper
the way they talk on the twitter doesnt really sound like someone who has been taken advantage of if you look
red anvil
shes 14
left fog
I'm definitely just gonna wait for the official investigation results...
pseudo viper
but where's the proof that she's 14?
deft valley
the fuck does it matter how she sounds
tawny sigil
If this is fake(obvious DK would know all of this is fake) I'd fucking sue and subpoena the shit out of everything she claims.
pseudo viper
she sounds like someone who wants vengeance for something or is trying to get dreamkazper humiliated for something, they sound more angry in the tweets.
deft valley
Because there’s no reason to be angry at the person who took advantage of you, clearly
red anvil
he sent messages that were not appropriate to a 14 year girl
forest raven
Dream tried to get in the pants of a 14 year old who he knew was 14 omegalul
rancid crest
The drama still on ?
pseudo viper
why are you assuming that everything she says is the truth?
balmy wolf
excuse me if im incorrect
deft valley
And her motivations don’t matter at this point
tawny sigil
yeah vengence is not illegal (depending how its done)
asking nude from a 14 is
rancid crest
What if she photoshopped those ?
balmy wolf
but isnt the only thing the text confirmed is that he said some creepy stuff
deft valley
She has actual evidence
All you have is attacks on her character
pseudo viper
@rancid crest thats my point
rancid crest
And framed dreamkazper
balmy wolf
theres no evidence that he asked or send nudes
rancid crest
That's a possibility
pseudo viper
an example is that with the white background that you see in her "text" screenshots
forest raven
He talked about what it would feel like to get a handjob from her
pseudo viper
that white bg helps to cover up pixel editing
forest raven
He was grooming her
deft valley
oh jesus christ the reddit detectives are here
forest raven
Terribly, but he was doing it and that shit is not okay
pseudo viper
also, why did that 14 year old let him do that?
deft valley
the background is always white in imessage what
pseudo viper
a 14 yr old should have at least some common sense about it
forest raven
She's 14
clever trout
lmao just logged in to see what this subreddit would say about the issue and i'm not surprised
pseudo viper
she knew that he was above 18
forest raven
She's barely a goddamn teenager
deft valley
and we’re straight into victim blaming
nice
balmy wolf
iirc the handjob thing was in response to a picture of edward scissorhands @forest raven
rancid crest
14 is a teen
clever trout
yes let's punish a 14 year old instead of a grown ass man
pseudo viper
@forest raven IM 14 GODDAMMIT
rancid crest
Till 18
pseudo viper
you dont even know if they are 14
clever trout
you do realise it's very to easy to check if she's 14?
forest raven
What is relevant, is that Dream was making sexually explicit advances on a 14 year old who he knew was 14
pseudo viper
they shouldnt have let them if they had any common sense at all
balmy wolf
It doesnt seem he was trying to advance onto her iirc
rancid crest
I thought the Undead drama was huge until this came along
deft valley
@pseudo viper Can you stop with the actual fucking victim blaming
pseudo viper
you're acting like someone being 14 means that they have no logic at all or know what a pedophile is, for an example
deft valley
this is on par with “what did you wear”
clever trout
he made her feel special, bought her a game, said he wonders how it would be to get a handjob form her and that's not making advances?
deft valley
^
pseudo viper
I'm not victim-blaming. I'm not jumping to conclusions
forest raven
He was fucking grooming her
tawny sigil
yeah this is always how it happens
pseudo viper
yes it is
tawny sigil
heard that 1000 times from minecraft players
balmy wolf
@deft valley what do you mean by aldrixx victim blaming?
pseudo viper
if you are 14 and have any logic you should know not to send nudes.
red anvil
there is a difference on not jumping to conclusion, and denying everything that is in front of you
pseudo viper
or even let someone treat you that way.
deft valley
@balmy wolf this is what i mean ^
clever trout
lmao common sense is not giving a benefit of the doubt to a 20 year old dude making sexual advances on a girl that can't legally consent ffs
balmy wolf
I still don't understand
pseudo viper
@red anvil I'm proving your arguments wrong
red anvil
not really
balmy wolf
all he is claiming is that 14 year olds should know to say no
deft valley
well then i suggest you reread it
balmy wolf
atleast right now he is
deft valley
which is exactly what victim blaming is
balmy wolf
whats wrong with that?
red anvil
what you have presented have been nowhere near proving anything wrong
balmy wolf
14 year olds should know when to say no
Oh we are not giving the benefit, we are trying to figure out how bad it is
pseudo viper
you guys just trust all that you see on the internet. Things this person say might not be true?
balmy wolf
Like if we get proof
deft valley
@pseudo viper whereas you just trust what you already agree with
pseudo viper
what do you mean
deft valley
like “white background = faked screenshot”
clever trout
that's your personal opinion on what 14 year olds should and should not know. the law disagrees with you.
pseudo viper
no, i said it's possible
balmy wolf
what do you mean the law?
pseudo viper
people can use things like this strategically
deft valley
jesus christ
clever trout
14 year old can't consent and you guys claim she should "not let him"
pseudo viper
you're just assuming i mean it's a faked screenshot without even seeing my proof of it
balmy wolf
thats not my point
red anvil
do you think they would just suspend him if this was all photoshopped?
balmy wolf
I mean ngl someone leaked their dms with the girl and the girl is bad by herself. And if dk actually did it he is worse
clever trout
she can say she's gonna suck his dick all night and he has to absolutely refuse that because it's fucking illegal, not just creepy
pseudo viper
having lighter colors when editing photos reduced distortion in the pixels
forest raven
Are you people seriously arguing that a 14 year old should have a greater ability to reason than someone who is over 20?
Do you understand what you're saying?
balmy wolf
im just saying that a 14 year old should know how to say no and call the police as soon as she started seeing the signs
pseudo viper
@forest raven jake paul
tawny sigil
lets put that out there
A SCREENSHOT IS NOT AN EVIDENCE THAT WILL HOLD IN COURT.
that's just fact.
pseudo viper
no, there's an option to set it dark
balmy wolf
Wait we can get non white twitter?
pallid dirge
in this chat: people not understanding how 14 year old girls function
deft valley
hence default thanks for reading
pseudo viper
yes
balmy wolf
How?
clever trout
yeah ok and the police can check easily if the snapchat thing happened so the joke is on you
pseudo viper
Night mode
forest raven
In this chat: people using anecdotal evidence to apply generalisations to an entire population
pseudo viper
@balmy wolf
deft valley
@balmy wolf her character has nothing to do with what he did though
I’m not a fan of her behavior either but it’s irrelevant
tawny sigil
only way to proove a screenshot is to Subpeona the website where it originate from or access it depending on the website.
balmy wolf
I know
pseudo viper
click ur profile picture in the top right corner and night mode should be in that toolbar,
clever trout
she's obviously a slut don't you know
pseudo viper
not really a toolbar
pallid dirge
the whole thing looks a lot like grooming, anyway. Which is a real problem related to sexual abuse.