fake tweet in the title
#esports-discussion
twin dove
whole narwhal
it's a fake screenshot
worthy vale
aw
whole narwhal
jsyk but still
civic marsh
profit fined for flipping the bird, blizzard gonna send a hit squad after daddy dream
worthy vale
so close ;-;
brisk roost
LOL
balmy wolf
it's a meme guys chill
whole narwhal
Didn't someone get warned for drinking alcohol on their personal stream? That strict.
civic marsh
consequences will never be the same
balmy wolf
xQc got banned for an emote this dude gonna get killed
whole narwhal
Hahahahaha
fading wasp
Wait, something happen with DreamKazper?
civic marsh
...
whole narwhal
Hot New Drama in Overwatch Every Month
forest wharf
pretty sure blizzard is gonna "dissapear" dreamkazper
forest wharf
he never existed
whole narwhal
They're going to mcfreakin kill him
civic marsh
owl stage 4, turns out chips is a serial killer
twin dove
OWL is now an Educational Show - Learning the Justice System Through ESports.
worthy vale
Well If lily can frame my sexy ass boi kazper, it's time to try and frame her then¨
whole narwhal
Ultimate Boss: OWL itself was a coverup for a crack cocaine trafficking ring
civic marsh
hahaha
idle beacon
yea
civic marsh
esports league exposed as money laundering front
idle beacon
srsly
fading wasp
Someone pls fill me in. Someone mentioned Chris Benoit, but I'm assuming he didn't murder anyone.
twin dove
its a tech company @whole narwhal they are trafficing in Cheap Chinese Car Parts!
idle beacon
i can't wait for the first doping / cheating bust xD
torpid charm
y'all wildin out
paper crag
@fading wasp DreamKazper allegedly sexted with a minor
civic marsh
naughty stuff with a 14 year old, like texting facetime etc @fading wasp
fading wasp
welp
forest wharf
@fading wasp https://www.reddit.com/r/OverwatchTMZ/comments/8as0kl/dreamkazper_leaks_original_submission_got_deleted/
tacit tartan
HE TESTED POSITIVE FOR THE ROIDS AND YET HE BARELY HAS A BICEP 
worthy vale
Overwatch league exposed as way to trafiic illegal amounts of maple syrup around the U.S
tacit tartan
hexed jay
i like how the superbowl is like nonstop beer ads
onyx shore
@fading wasp the chris benoit mean that the org will not consider him existed at all
twin dove
lol
brisk roost
@fading wasp I made a joke where OWL will forget Dreamkazper like what WWE did to Chris Benoit so that's why I said Kazper = Chris Benoit of OWL
worthy vale
People in media forget stuff in a good solid 1-2 weeks
he will be clean at that time
and can live on
torpid charm
a lie
whole narwhal
OWL turns out to be a ploy specifically designed to engineer drama and little else
fading wasp
WELL MOVING SWIFTLY ON
twin dove
gotta change that 0 to a 1
civic marsh
this isn't getting forgotten
twin dove
paper crag
LOL i was like okayy 14% so what...?
hexed jay
better to go out on a high
paper crag
then i got it lol
brisk roost
FACKIN 
brisk roost
Coincidence? I think not 
paper crag
real talk though, so if your crit accuracy is 14%, does that mean 14% of ALL shots are crit, or 14% of shots that HIT are crits?
lilac atlas
But it is kind of weird how this just came out after they 4-0 outlaws
worthy vale
Fair enough
limber pine
torpid charm
Sprite I was finna summon you
worthy vale
Mb
paper crag
can someone please answer my crit question
civic marsh
https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/DreamKazper look at his role lmao
twin dove
fking LUL
hexed jay
shield hits don't count i believe
fading wasp
That's a good question @paper crag. Not sure.
whole narwhal
No idea how any of the accuracy stats work
Like I'll spray and pray as Tracer and yet it'll be something like
Okay I forgot what% but a lot more than I'd expect
paper crag
so let's just say we exclude hits that don't count as hero damage
just shots that miss, or hit a hero and do damage
whole narwhal
Probably counts the shots that connect, and calculates how many are crits
That's just my assumption dont quote me on that
paper crag
regular accuracy is definitely all shots that connect and do hero damage
whole narwhal
But if your crit% is ever higher than your accuracy%, yuou'll know the answer
paper crag
i always thought crit was % of crit shots out of hits that connected
but never got an answer
fading wasp
I'm curious, what do the the referees actually do? They just seem to stand in the back looking slightly depressed.
fading wasp
Are the headsets noise cancelling or something?
fading wasp
And did Muma legit get his glasses confiscated?
paper crag
can we have someone tilt, walk over to the opponents' side and take a swing at someone?
fading wasp
^ shd bouta pop off
paper crag
and it won't hit the guy, but he'll act like he's been hit and fall on the ground
onyx shore
i wonder if there are some pro players who underperformed bcos they are not comfortable playing with long pants
paper crag
and wait for the ref to make a call
fading wasp
This isn't the WWE
paper crag
no this is soccer
got scraped on the knee? grab your face and go into fetal position
writhe around a bit to add some flair
slim summit
we do need some proper rivalries
fading wasp
Soccer fans in the US don't take that shit. I remember I saw one guy flop and the entire stadium started chanting "Shoot him like a horse" until he got up. Guess the hockey mentality carried over a bit.
paper crag
lol shoot him like a horse
slim summit
xQc vs Jake was just dumb
paper crag
yeah i want an actual rivalry that's not childish feud
tacit tartan
I love Jake
torpid charm
that was my least fav drama
paper crag
i think london vs nyxl is kind of a thing
forest wharf
also, just saw this spam on twitch....TeenGrazper
brisk roost
xQc vs Jake just doesn't even make sense lol
paper crag
although this past match was a bit....
slim summit
oh no
tacit tartan
Spitfire vs NYXL is definitely a rivalry
paper crag
disappointing
twin dove
lol u want drama, u try shit talking another team and u'll get suspended.
paper crag
i thought houston vs dallas was gonna be a thing, as well as the two LA teams
the LA derby could be a thing
brisk roost
I wanna see Valiant beat Glads this time
paper crag
houston vs dallas, not so much at the moment
slim summit
as long as you don't call them retards and "accidentally" post racist memes you should be ok
brisk roost
I'm liking Valiant now tbh
torpid charm
if Dallas wasn't so shit then it would be more of a Texas rivalry
brisk roost
^
slim summit
just gotta use your head
brisk roost
I could see my bois beating Dallas again
torpid charm
Glad always has my heart because of Bischu
slim summit
Dallas is bad but also Houston is getting worse
onyx shore
valiant lul
paper crag
i liked valiant very early stage 1, then stopped caring about them for some unknown reason
onyx shore
that in n out meme will never die
paper crag
i just missed a lot of their games i guess
slim summit
Dallas doesn't need to improve that much for the rivalry to be on again
paper crag
well, i guess dallas has an unwilling rivalry with SHD
not really a rivalry
but OMG PLEASE GET AWAY with SHD
fading wasp
More like a race to rock bottom
paper crag
yeah
brisk roost
Lol
brisk roost
Fav teams right now are Outlaws, Valiant, NYXL, Fusion, Shock and Dragons
paper crag
so literally half the OWL
torpid charm
LOL I'm watching Dayfly's stream and the guys he's playing with are talking about Dreamkazper
torpid charm
Fusion bois best bois
paper crag
it's hard for me to follow more than 2 teams
so i'm dallas and nyxl
dallas is really testing my patience though
brisk roost
Outlaws are my #1
torpid charm
I'm mainly Philly while keeping tabs on Shanghai
paper crag
depending on architect or valiant's performance, i could go SFS or LAV
brisk roost
I tend to watch all games if I don't get busy tbh
torpid charm
other than that I just like a lot of individual players
fading wasp
This is like the one fucking city-based sport where NY doesn't have two teams.
paper crag
yeah i'm also a very player-centric fan
torpid charm
honestly
paper crag
i feel like it's much easier to be a fan of a player than an organization in esports
torpid charm
LA got that good shmoney so they're always gonna have two teams for something usually
paper crag
OWL is trying to go against that by doing city based teams
fading wasp
NYXL is my #1, Houston is my #2, and SHD is my #allofthem
torpid charm
deadass
fading wasp
SHD is like the special stepcousin of the Overwatch League
torpid charm
Diya is back and I'm hype af
fading wasp
If you don't I refuse to speak to you
paper crag
i also think it's funny that LAG is picking up rejects from other teams
and doing well with them
torpid charm
Philly boys come to visit in May, I'm so goddamn excited
Silkthread being moved to Glad made me love him even more idk why
paper crag
because people love rooting for underdogs
and silkthread, in a sense, is an underdog because he was benched for so long
and left LAV to get more playtime
torpid charm
he's such a good player and I was sad to see him benched
paper crag
dude i can't get over the fact that asher sounds like a name for bratty 10 year old blonde boy with a bowl cut with a "let me talk to your manager" mom in her 30s
twin dove
lol
clear shale
Hey guys I know I live under a shell, but what is the whole thing around DreamKazper
paper crag
"Yeah well maybe you should have told me that my coupon expired when I walked into the store, not when I'm trying to pay for my purchase. You know what? You're really rude. Can I talk to - Asher? Asher! GET OVER HERE! - I need to talk to your manager right - ASHER! I'M NOT GONNA SAY IT AGAIN, GET OVER HERE! -sigh just let me talk to your manager."
see how naturally Asher fits in there?
fading wasp
He allegedly tried to e-diddle a 14 year old @clear shale
torpid charm
paper crag
oh no... chat's gonna get nuked
slim summit
Sugar Daddy Dream has another victim confirmed
paper crag
TAKE COVER
fading wasp
wot
stuck meadow
He had 1 job, and that was not to be a damn pedophile
torpid charm
no more DK 
stuck meadow
Really hope the allegations are fake
fading wasp
Me too, for the sake of the kid @stuck meadow
stuck meadow
If the allegations are fake
torpid charm
even if the allegations are fake, you can't come back from that which is sad
stuck meadow
The kid is gonna look like a shit head
and DK's career is ruined for good from this tbh
So it sucks
slim summit
true
fading wasp
Regardless, a shitty situation.
torpid charm
yes
stuck meadow
Indeed
slim summit
i don't wanna start a convo about this but ... i do have an issue with how accusations of pedophilia are weaponized in our society
people can & do ruin others' lives over nothing with just this convenient allegation
fading wasp
Yeah let's not get into that. That is a flame war waiting to happen.
stuck meadow
Yep
Thats why if it's fake at least Kazper doesn't get jail time
But damn
Hes just over
paper crag
yeah. lets get back to how asher sounds like a bratty boy's name
slim summit
IDK if he will get jail time anyway
fading wasp
This is depressing, let's get to something else.
stuck meadow
Has that lion maker dude gone to jail tbh?
hexed jay
I love the alt-right rabbit hole of pedophilia pizza parlors
stuck meadow
Whatever
paper crag
it took me a great effort to type up that "let me talk to your manager" mom thing
stuck meadow
Different topic
fading wasp
How about we talk about the fact that SNILLO IS CLEARLY 12 YEARS OLD AND WE HAVE ALL BEEN LIED TO!
torpid charm
YO LEAVE BABY FACE SNILLO ALONE
fading wasp
SNILLO. IS. TWELVE.
torpid charm
HE IS 18.
stuck meadow
Snillo is hot
paper crag
uh oh
twin dove
more important topic is, whats really in those bags they hold in their hands?
probably coke!
torpid charm
he's so beautiful
fading wasp
torpid charm
I'm so proud of his walk out
pseudo viper
are there no pictures allowed in here? because i found a suspicious tweet from linxr's profile on twitter
wtf sorry
stuck meadow
what about it?
pseudo viper
worded wrong
fading wasp
Walk out @torpid charm?
paper crag
walking onto the staage
fading wasp
I missed it
torpid charm
from when Philly played Boston last Thursday
pseudo viper
guys
fading wasp
ahahahaha
torpid charm
I love Rocky
fading wasp
@pseudo viper post an imgur link
pseudo viper
ok
stuck meadow
Do ya think the OWL is a safe space
torpid charm
wdym
stuck meadow
Like after the EQO situation
Suspended for 3 games
Cant stream
Fined
All over pulling his eyes?
onyx shore
EQO suspension is too much tbh
torpid charm
the org did that, not OWL
hexed jay
OWL is not safe from guns
onyx shore
the fine is okay
fading wasp
Overwatch League is closely managed because PR. Blizzard is paranoid about getting a bad image.
idle beacon
haha
stuck meadow
Yeah
idle beacon
blizz has a bad image already
balmy wolf
stuck meadow
I can already see that
onyx shore
but the suspension is a bit too much
stuck meadow
Cough cough Tracer booty
brisk roost
What's an "LFG"?
onyx shore
and banning him from streaming is also too far
idle beacon
that pic is surely bullshit!
bleak gyro
looking for group
stuck meadow
Looking for game
fading wasp
Looking For Group
paper crag
looking for group
torpid charm
I'm not gonna comment on the Eqo situation because like been there done that, punishment was issued, it's whatever now so I'm not worried about it
pseudo viper
https://imgur.com/a/rYwp3 ok so im not sure if this was made before lily sort of started using that account but here it is
brisk roost
Oh lmao
idle beacon
Lookin For Group
fading wasp
@onyx shore that was his org, not bliz
brisk roost
Fukin tellem xD!
stuck meadow
Well then they wouldnt have a league lmao
twin dove
psssh details
onyx shore
@fading wasp agreed,and still too far
stuck meadow
@fading wasp Ok but what about the xQc situation
onyx shore
dude
fading wasp
Blizzard clearly had a hard-on for xQc and wanted him out of the league @stuck meadow
onyx shore
he's talking about koreans while doing asian eyes
i refuse to believe he dont know the meaning
stuck meadow
I wonder why 
fading wasp
@onyx shore he's talking about xQc
stuck meadow
I still dont get why the league hated xQc so much
twin dove
its more like assume everything is racist until otherwise noted lol
pseudo viper
https://imgur.com/a/rYwp3 anyone see this
idle beacon
he got suspended fro 3 days just because usin asian eyes?
twin dove
im 27 and I would've done asian eyes for jokes if we werent in this modern society of Keyboard warriors
torpid charm
idle beacon
so what has eQo done wrong?
stuck meadow
@Magus#0001 No one can take a simple joke nowadays
Thats why the internet is in a dark age of SJW's
We are all doomed
onyx shore
@idle beacon making slanted eye gesture
stuck meadow
Not really
fading wasp
He did the "pull your eyes to make them look slanted and Asian" thing on-stream
onyx shore
while talking about koreans
twin dove
I mean, u can bitch about it all u want, going after ppls jobs when u will probably never see them in RL seems kinda douchey to me
lol
idle beacon
if that is being racists, then how come the tv conpany isn't sueing macfarlane for using asian eyes on american dad ?? 😄
torpid charm
he didn't do it with malice, I can understand he did it out of admiration but that's not something you do out of admiration
fading wasp
^
stuck meadow
Didnt he say he was complimenting them tho lmao
torpid charm
yes that's why I said that
stuck meadow
Pretty sure no malicious intent
onyx shore
@idle beacon this is PG
stuck meadow
yeah ik
fading wasp
He apparently spent a large amount of the stream complimenting Koreans
stuck meadow
for 2 year olds
onyx shore
family friendly
twin dove
it was an extreme reaction for a poor joke to be fair thou
idle beacon
oh
idle beacon
pegi stuff
onyx shore
eh
fading wasp
Are you from the US? @idle beacon
idle beacon
no
stuck meadow
doesnt even need a fine
fading wasp
ah
supple prism
what about that f-bomb?
fading wasp
It's a movie rating
onyx shore
1000$ + 1 match suspension is enough imo
stuck meadow
just tell him not to do that shit again
twin dove
sadly have to do the fine because ppl are so whiny lol
onyx shore
more than that is too much
idle beacon
ye pegi 18 .. i remember 😄
pseudo viper
@idle beacon this kind of dumb shit has happened in the league before though, so its probably because their rulebook and rules and shit arent even complete nor are they good.
torpid charm
that doesn't always work, just telling someone not to do some shit again
onyx shore
i disagree with eqo can't stream though
stuck meadow
Well if they do some dumb shit again then punish them
onyx shore
kinda bullshit
stuck meadow
I think everyone disagrees with that one
twin dove
seems kind've like....u truly sold ur soul if they have control over ur streams
onyx shore
OWL's contract should not include streaming rights like that
idle beacon
yea but 3 days and gettin fined .. for those asian eyes? .. that's harsh
supple prism
perhaps they should have looked more closely at these contracts
torpid charm
in the long run, they're trying to set an example and trying to prevent it from happening again.
onyx shore
not 3 days dude
fading wasp
No, not pegi 18. PG means "Parental Guidance Advised." Anyone can see it, but it might have some questionable content for young viewers.
onyx shore
3 matches
fading wasp
I think the US version of pegi 18 would be R
idle beacon
@fading wasp ah ok thanks
onyx shore
well,asian eye gesture are racist gesture
pseudo viper
@onyx shore also known as more than 3 days
onyx shore
you try doing that in front of asian people
idle beacon
r rated ye .. i just remember this dude saying it .. pegi 13 or whatever
pseudo viper
nah
twin dove
seems like it'd would suck to be an OWL Pro, the panic and anxiety u'd have to deal with when it comes to rules must be the most intense i'
pseudo viper
im asian dude
twin dove
i've ever seen
pseudo viper
we dont give half a shit honestly
torpid charm
and like I know you can't cater to everyone but he received a fair amount of backlash about it, people were upset, which wasn't his intent, so either way something had to be done
onyx shore
well you probably dont give a shit,me neither
but really
do it publicly,and see what happens
stuck meadow
I dont really ever remember someone getting offended over slanted eyes
if you get offended over that you honestly need to grow thicker skin
supple prism
its mainly about the sponsers
idle beacon
what happenes if an afro uses an afro emoticon?
onyx shore
^
idle beacon
will he be in trouble? 😄
twin dove
kinda what comedians do all the time, some jokes are a hit some are a miss, some will make u laugh some will piss u off
just gotta deal with it
lol
onyx shore
we're comparing emoticon with gesture now
supple prism
yea but thats their job
torpid charm
I can't speak on how it made me feel because I'm obviously not Asian but like a lot of people I know we're offefeneded by it. but then again you can't cater to everyone so ya know it's iffy
supple prism
and even comedians can get punished for tasteless jokes
onyx shore
one thing that i didnt buy is
twin dove
didnt say they wouldnt get punished
onyx shore
he used that gesture when talking about the koreans
twin dove
just that its shit u gotta deal with
idle beacon
lol
pseudo viper
i mean honestly the "non asian person doing the asian eyes" thing is like a 10 yr old saying "fuck you", but most people online dont give a shit if that happens
pseudo viper
yeah
stuck meadow
he was complimenting them so obviously he didnt think it was racist
paper crag
see i think the problem is that such jokes are being made as "a simple joke" without a second thought
onyx shore
as blizzard already make a stand where it doesnt matter if you're not really racist
pseudo viper
@paper crag thats because no one cares
twin dove
just a joke that missed its mark in unfortunately a time where those jokes just send everything into a downward spiral
lol
onyx shore
if it looks racist,you got punished
pseudo viper
its a dumb rule though
paper crag
how can you say no one cares though? obviously there are people who care
pseudo viper
like i said about the rulebook thing
paper crag
are you now going to say "no one that matters?"
supple prism
money cares
stuck meadow
yes
pseudo viper
@paper crag because i and most of my friends are korean or chinese and we dont care
onyx shore
as asian,i personally don't care about asian eyes gesture,but come on....claiming not knowing the meaning while talking about koreans are just weak defense
torpid charm
gotta take into account that also this is the first year of OWL and rules are odd because they don't know what to expect so eh
twin dove
its more of, how many ppl are those that "Care and watch him" vs. "I saw this shit on reddit and Im outraged"
paper crag
and i'm korean and most of my friends are asian who care
twin dove
lol
supple prism
no
paper crag
see how easy it is to make anecdotes sound like it's universal?
pseudo viper
@torpid charm thats my point i was making earlier
torpid charm
yeah I get that
supple prism
they might leave if anything hurts their profits
twin dove
kinda why youtube is in the shitter
stuck meadow
yeah but i doubt that 1 thing is going to do anything
twin dove
all the adverts leaving cause of PC SJW stuff
pseudo viper
@paper crag how do you care though, its just a joke, can't you accept that?
paper crag
see that's the problem though, saying a racially charged gesture is "just a joke"
onyx shore
and then do slanted eye gesture to the people there
some of them probably dont care
but is it racist? yes
stuck meadow
@formal vaporediaz#5606 you know what if I did do that I bet most of them would just walk by tbh
paper crag
sure, he could have done it without racist intent
twin dove
intention is important, wasnt racially charged until outsiders gave that intention imo
pseudo viper
you have a point, but doing it directly at them in front of them to show that is different
twin dove
was just a poor joke till it hit the full force of the internet
pseudo viper
idk, thats my opinion
twin dove
lol
stuck meadow
People who are adults and aren't a snowflake aren't going to let something like that make them cry
like tf
I get it, it's racist
but
@balmy wolf LMFAO
onyx shore
yeah,it's racist,then what more to discuss?
supple prism
its not that they would or wouldnt do then and there, its what they feel about later when money becomes involved
balmy wolf
torpid charm
wiiiiiiiiiiild
pseudo viper
not just that he was complimenting them during that stream so i dont think he meant it as racist
stuck meadow
@formal vaporediaz#5606 It's racist but, people shouldn't snowflakes about it
Basically what im saying is people need to grow up
onyx shore
@stuck meadow agreed
stuck meadow
And I tagged the wrong person like 5 times in a row now
stuck meadow
I agree
pseudo viper
@stuck meadow exactly
paper crag
i don't know if he was actually maliciously racist about it, but i do think it was more insensitive
stuck meadow
Though they should let him stream
twin dove
i feel like this whole arguement ya'll had was meaningless lol
ya'll agree on everything
lol
paper crag
probably not realizing what it could mean to others
stuck meadow
it was tbh
supple prism
yea i dont know how they got away with preventing him from streaming
torpid charm
he's taking the punishment like a champ from what the CFO told me when I asked about it so it's whatever
idle beacon
@pseudo viper how often r u gonna post that pic? 😄
pseudo viper
many times
torpid charm
wow what a wild day in OWL
twin dove
ya thats whats interesting to me, u really have to sell ur soul to let them control ur streams
maybe its a "Team computers our rules" type of thing
idle beacon
other question .. have fines and bans ever happen in other esport leagues / games? like LoL or cs:go ??
torpid charm
yeah
pseudo viper
i find it weird that after claiming that they have been treated like that, they would say something like that about dreamkazper
onyx shore
yeah
paper crag
i wonder if NFL players also need team approval to appear on TV other than games
or commercials
supple prism
yes
paper crag
i could see that happening
paper crag
and in a way, streaming is kind of similar?
pseudo viper
you can say that they can be a bad person, but joking about them and laughing about calling them pathetic? is this happening?\
twin dove
press teams so would assume so
onyx shore
a dota pro said that this/that caster is retarded/gave him cancer
the orgs or valve wont do a thing
paper crag
your players' images will definitely extend upon your team's image
supple prism
i believe actors also have to get permission
idle beacon
@formal vaporediaz#5606 rly?
twin dove
usually have agents that control media engagements
paper crag
so you could be entitled to control possibly damaging actions
torpid charm
I feel like it's that basically, xQc could do whatever he wanted because it's his stuff. Eqo is using the Fusion house stuff there's that
twin dove
to keep u always looking positive
paper crag
lol
stuck meadow
L0L
paper crag
322
idle beacon
haha
pseudo viper
https://twitter.com/Carter_OW/status/983136511863406592 i also dont know if you guys saw this
paper crag
actually, this guy named Solo on the Dota scene wasn't banned because it was apparently the first time it got caught in the dota scene
idle beacon
you can call someome a retard and ain't being in trouble. but betting against ur team get ya banned? .. xDDD wow what a fuckup
paper crag
because it didn't have a precedent
torpid charm
sorry for the spam, my connection is wonky
onyx shore
@idle beacon dude,are you serious
balmy wolf
stuck meadow
ok bro
paper crag
which i think is kind of bullshit because esports as a whole had big scandals with match fixing that resulted in players being banned
balmy wolf
fuck this kid
stuck meadow
it was funny at first
onyx shore
betting against your own team is match fixing
balmy wolf
im really confused guys
pseudo viper
sup
paper crag
yeah, Solo bet against his team and actively threw
balmy wolf
i asked on the overwatch reddit if there was any evidence that the texts were fake
paper crag
he got $322 out of it
idle beacon
that pic
paper crag
which is why 322 became a meme for throwing in Dota
idle beacon
@pseudo viper
balmy wolf
and a ton of people downvoted it, am i in the wrong?
idle beacon
who is who?
stuck meadow
not at all
idle beacon
so i get it right
twin dove
internet tends to believe the accuser outright and if u disagree u'll get flamed
paper crag
they could be fake, but suggesting the possibility kills the vibes of the meme train
pseudo viper
@idle beacon person who has black text is apparently the girl
stuck meadow
but right now the odds are stacking against dream and as much as I wish they arent true. they are most likely real
but
idle beacon
if that pic is a real screenshot, then yea that kid did it on purpose
stuck meadow
Innocent until proven guilty in my book
balmy wolf
apparently asking for proof is forbidden and it is impossible for 14 year old TEENAGERS to lie
twin dove
on the internet yes
stuck meadow
Anyone can lie
twin dove
thats how it works
pseudo viper
exactly
tacit tartan
I mean
stuck meadow
Anyone who thinks those convos are 100% real automatically is a fool
pseudo viper
the thing is; its just drama
twin dove
regardless of if u believe it or not, that is how the internet works lol
especially with underage things
floral wasp
This seems way too serious and complex to be a lie :/
pseudo viper
people are automatically going to assume the worse without thinking the situation through.
stuck meadow
Who knows
paper crag
the internet always moves from a state of low drama to high drama
balmy wolf
I was arguing that they didnt even give proof that he coerced her into sending nudes
stuck meadow
Someone may have a genuine grudge on the dude
paper crag
basic thermodynamics guys
stuck meadow
and actually want to ruin him
tacit tartan
This is pretty fucking complex though
stuck meadow
Which they practically already did
balmy wolf
and some guy said that 14 year olds shouldnt need proof
torpid charm
we don't know for right now, whole situation is messy
pseudo viper
not necessarily though
twin dove
ya i didnt see the coercion either, it more looked like he's an exhibitionist who wanted to put on a show for her. lol
stuck meadow
Am I filthy for watching kingmykl?
pseudo viper
ive seen people fake texts, photoshop things, etc. just to get other people exposed
balmy wolf
^
torpid charm
same
stuck meadow
yep
pseudo viper
the "victim" just doesnt act the right way about what happened
floral wasp
I can see a girl having a grudge for being coerced into an inappropriate relationship lol
stuck meadow
the person who intially wrote that with the proof is most likely a lawyer
and not the kid herself
floral wasp
like, what do you want her to do? Cry on Twitter?
torpid charm
I've been in a situation like this before so I'm trynna look at everything with an open mind, plus at this point it's a lot of allegations, nothing is exactly set in stone if you would say
floral wasp
This is def a lawyer type situation
torpid charm
yes
floral wasp
because this is ILLEGAL
pseudo viper
@stuck meadow i watched kingmykl as well, and just like everyone else here, he's jumping to conclusions without thinking the situation over.
and usually with drama, they assume the worst
twin dove
can never be sure ur getting all the DMs, let alone if they are edited or not, crazy world we live in lol
pseudo viper
just as what is happening here
pseudo viper
of course.
tacit tartan
Who ya gonna call? 
stuck meadow
But trust me Im wishing its fake just like everyone else
twin dove
i mean if ur a utuber drama sells, clickbait baby
pseudo viper
my point is just to thinkk about it both ways.
stuck meadow
For the greater good of everyone
pseudo viper
no one has come out with any possible evidence that dreamkazper is not a pedo
because no one ever looked at it in another perspective
hexed jay
lol you can’t prove that you aren’t something
stuck meadow
Not always ^
hexed jay
“Prove that you aren’t gay”
stuck meadow
but most of the time you cant lol
supple crow
it doesn't matter Blizzard will never allow him in the league
they don't want the bad press
tacit tartan
Meanwhile at Dallas 
balmy wolf
yeah it sucks
balmy wolf
even if its confirmed fake the damage has been done
idle beacon
all this crap going on .. might scare other pro players away .. if owl's stupid rulebook is so strict
idle beacon
asian eyes .. 3 day ban
stuck meadow
I feel bad for the people who bought a DK jersey tho lmao
idle beacon
lol
floral wasp
Idk if “no pedophilia” is strict lol
twin dove
Refunds INC.
stuck meadow
Imagine going to a OW convention with a DK jersey
idle beacon
@ancient dagger＿天使#9246 i ain't talkin of pedkazper
stuck meadow
You have me DEAD
tacit tartan
LOL
pseudo viper
@stuck meadow heres an example
paper crag
i feel like teams will usually find some kind of breach of contract to kick players without compensation
balmy wolf
im not sure about you guys but things like this give me the spooks
floral wasp
Same smh
stuck meadow
its just fucking sad
balmy wolf
the fact that we have no confirmation is actually terrifiying
paper crag
so if DK can be kicked out for a breach of contract, he prob won't get any compensation
pseudo viper
notice in how in her screenshots of texts with dreamkazper, they are taken with a white bg instead of a dark one
stuck meadow
yes?
pseudo viper
this reduces distortion if you edit the pixels
while of course, its possible its preference, this is one example
idle beacon
@pseudo viper oh, ur an investigating sherlock now? 😄
supple prism
there is SS?
supple crow
The fact that DK isn't denying it, and his girlfriend somewhat confirmed it is enough evidence that he talked to this girl
balmy wolf
didnt she have the blue background for another person?
pseudo viper
@idle beacon what do you mean
balmy wolf
wait im confused
pseudo viper
im just trying to think the situation over
stuck meadow
The reason why DK isn't denying it is just cause he doesnt want to be in public rn
paper crag
@balmy wolf different apps, i think
stuck meadow
Probably doing shit behind the scenes
balmy wolf
couldnt she of had a friend pose as him (ie have the same profile pic and name) and just set it up?
isnt that possible?
please tell me if im wrong cause idk about twitter
idle beacon
@pseudo viper just jokin 😃 .. real pro's can fake anything
balmy wolf
i dont use social media that much
pseudo viper
while there is a lot of evidence against dk, no one has really investigated evidence for anything supporting him.
stuck meadow
just ps the @ and the verify and boom
supple crow
Twitter
pseudo viper
im not siding with him, but im trying to show both sides of the argument
paper crag
i think the real point of contention is how unique are the pictures that DK sent to the girl
stuck meadow
you have some convicing proof
balmy wolf
last time i tried to do that I was downvoted to hell lol
fading wasp
That's because, in court, pretty much nothing aside from a good alibi can do that.
paper crag
are those pictures only in possession of the accuser, and the metadata match the time frame of their encounters?
balmy wolf
@supple crow couldn't that girl just be her friend?
stuck meadow
all i know is https://gyazo.com/77ac948e1a4412cb7fa119615e582a9e
supple crow
who knows, we'll know when the article is done
balmy wolf
i mean they remained anonymous
paper crag
or do other people also own those pictures and could have supplied it to the girl
that would be the big point
floral wasp
I mean right now, it’s his word versus all of these screenshots, videos, and call logs
pseudo viper
not just that, she doesnt even show her own twitter accounts even though she likely knows that people will come there to support her.
balmy wolf
wasn't it confirmed that the girl was part of a discord that pulls pranks on people?
pseudo viper
i also saw a thing
idle beacon
well if this would go to court .. there'd be a huge pro evidence checking goin on .. for exsample, checking your cellphone provider for calls / sms .. asking twitter for a chatlog backup. . etc pp
pseudo viper
ill send it to you rn
floral wasp
Snapchat could get involved too
balmy wolf
and what if he was hacked?
floral wasp
And confirm
balmy wolf
?
floral wasp
Hacked for months? Lol
stuck meadow
no ones just gonna hack some random OWL player
balmy wolf
oh yeah duh
idle beacon
@stuck meadow whynot?
balmy wolf
i didnt realize that the texts went on for months
stuck meadow
whyyes?
idle beacon
why would noone hack an OWL player?
floral wasp
Unfortunately yes :c
stuck meadow
hack him
supple prism
people will hack anything for any reason
stuck meadow
if someone hacks someone big they're gonna plug in their twitter and make sure they get rep
paper crag
like i said, i think the bathroom/bedroom pictures that DK allegedly sent to the girl are gonna important in fact-checking.
if the girl is the only person who has these images besides DK, it strengthens her claim that she's connected to DK
pseudo viper
https://twitter.com/IiNkzr/status/983147074299580416 ok guys, look at the reply on this tweet
Twitter
balmy wolf
oh alright
supple prism
not everyone wants recognition
pseudo viper
this is hella suspicious ok
paper crag
the pictures would have metadata with when they were taken, so you match it with their chats/texts and see if the timeframe fits
paper crag
yeah the humblekusaii thing was kind of confusing for me because it only led to actual mendo twitter when i googled it
balmy wolf
theres a lot of things wrong with her actions
paper crag
idk two shits about twitter though
pseudo viper
not only that
floral wasp
I dunno how that changes the situation though
floral wasp
Like, that’s a different bag altogether
pearl stratus
It's a different bag but it doesn't excuse what DK did in the long run.
balmy wolf
I know pedophilia is never justified but the girl has been sending the guy a ton of odd things
pearl stratus
Just means she's a little stupid thot too.
balmy wolf
like her first message
floral wasp
Her having a different account doesn’t negate the fact that dk was doing all of that stuff
balmy wolf
her first message was her expressing her love iirc
forest wharf
from r/cow discord https://i.imgur.com/V5en9i9.jpg
balmy wolf
i know that doesnt excuse anything if its true
stuck meadow
Bro even if DK is a pedo, that 14 year old still has like 0 common sense lol
balmy wolf
yeah
floral wasp
she’s 14 lmao
paper crag
so who is the person telling DK that the girl is underage? is that DK's GF?
balmy wolf
I don't know why she didn't report it earlier?
paper crag
the one where DK is like "yeah i know she's underage"
pearl stratus
Oh no, she's dumb as fuck and her parents should probably beat the shit out of her
And not praise her.
But yeah.
pseudo viper
the thing is that she says that dk is trying to engage with her sexually, when the only thing she talked about on her humblekusaii account is lewd shit
stuck meadow
@ancient dagger＿天使#9246 a 14 year old should have some fucking common sense to know not to send nudes to people
floral wasp
you’re right
twin dove
or however the fk u spell his name
floral wasp
But that doesn’t change anything lol
stuck meadow
if a 14 year old is sending nudes to people who are obviously an adult. I fear for their future
pearl stratus
@stuck meadow What'll happen is if everything goes south really quickly
stuck meadow
Of course it doesnt
balmy wolf
people were arguing with me about how 14 year olds don't have the sense to say no
pseudo viper
you're acting like 14 yr olds dont know shit lol
floral wasp
So why say it?
pearl stratus
Any decent lawyer will counter sue her
balmy wolf
i was like the fuck
floral wasp
It looks gross
balmy wolf
and im 15
pearl stratus
For distribution of child pornography.
stuck meadow
Cause im just saying their both fools tbh
pearl stratus
So she fucks her own life too.
pseudo viper
im fucking 14 and i wouldnt send my shit to anyone
balmy wolf
and I know damn well when i was 14 I knew when to say "no"
pseudo viper
exactly
pearl stratus
She'll get probation and put on a sexual registry.
idle beacon
did anyone read the comment on that pic? the dude saying about her old acc she was talkin about lewd and porn 24/7 .. dunno man .. what 14 year old girl is into porn and all that crap?
twin dove
ya as a child u can get in trouble for distributing ur own nudes cant u?
pearl stratus
Yeah
pseudo viper
@idle beacon thats what i was trying to tell u
pearl stratus
Its child porn
stuck meadow
idk if yall know this but
twin dove
accurate law, but still weird when u think about it
stuck meadow
like every kid watches NSFW shit nowadays
floral wasp
Yep, she can get into trouble too
stuck meadow
just lettin yall know
pseudo viper
why would she be doing that, then try to expose dk for being a pedo or trying to sexually engage with her
idle beacon
nsfw ?
balmy wolf
wait the girl can get into trouble?
idle beacon
ffs
pearl stratus
Whether it was DK stopping things with her, etc.
stuck meadow
Bro she a thot lmao
idle beacon
all these acronyms
stuck meadow
But the girl cant get into trouble
floral wasp
um?
stuck meadow
Shes a kid
pearl stratus
@balmy wolf Yes. In this situation if she sent him nudes she distributed child pornography.
pseudo viper
@idle beacon nsfw: not safe for work
pearl stratus
It has been used before multiple times
idle beacon
oh
twin dove
at that age, if they stop getting attention, they lash out.
idle beacon
lol
paper crag
@idle beacon ATA = All These Acronyms
balmy wolf
this is really fucking spooky
twin dove
Teenage Angst is a bitch.
floral wasp
I’d be pretty pissed off if I was 14 and realized I’d been taken advantage of by an adult
pearl stratus
It's normally used as a scare tactic, but it has numerous precedence.
pseudo viper
usually porn and shit is nsfw
idle beacon
people gettin darn lazy nowadays .. when it comes to writin 😄
pearl stratus
I wouldn't Suicide.
It happens a LOT.
Normally just a scare tactic in most cases.
floral wasp
I’d be pissed now bc honestly high school is a vulnerable time
idle beacon
so .. kids are into nsfw stuff?
pearl stratus
But the lawyer can push it, and its valid.
fading wasp
In the end, we have to wait for a criminal investigation to get any answers. The lack of one would also mean something.
pseudo viper
@idle beacon sadly, yes, but not like that
pearl stratus
If she sent out naked pictures of herself whether by consent or not, she willfully distributed naked pictures of a minor.
pearl stratus
Doesn't matter that she's the minor.
floral wasp
Yes It does 🙄
pearl stratus
No it doesn't.
twin dove
not it doesnt
pearl stratus
She won't.
stuck meadow
Come on bro
pearl stratus
She'll get put on a registry though.
pseudo viper
another thing
floral wasp
dude, in the law,,, y e s I t d o e s
stuck meadow
Oh
pearl stratus
I appreciate you think you're right.
stuck meadow
Maybe yeah
pearl stratus
But you're not.
pseudo viper
we dont even know if her nude pics are real
stuck meadow
@pearl stratus Im thinking your talking about jail time bro
twin dove
in the law its still distribution of child pornography even though its of herself and she's a child
there have been cases with this
pearl stratus
No, not at that age. She'd get probation till she was 18.
pseudo viper
of course you cant show them, but even if you blurred out the pics or whatever it would be proof enough
floral wasp
depends on the state but being a minor changes things
pearl stratus
And she'd stay on the registry.
twin dove
only one i remember I think was juvenile detention thou
pearl stratus
It still fucks the rest of her life.
tacit tartan
You couldn't share her nudes to begin with
pseudo viper
we have absolutely no proof if her sharing nudes is real or not
idle beacon
i'll fetch some sleep and catch up about this pedokazper tomorrow 😃
pseudo viper
in the first place
paper crag
i miss when this chat was all about WHEN WILL SHD WIN A MATCH?
floral wasp
If she has them my guess is the police have the evidence
pearl stratus
We don't. But we also don't have proof that DK did too
pearl stratus
And people are jumping all over him.
floral wasp
No reason to spread that on Twitter
pearl stratus
You have to look at both sides of something like this.
twin dove
thats also a problem, as sick as it sounds, if u dont see the proof of the nudes, u dont know what else have been hidden in these DM "leaks"
pseudo viper
@pearl stratus thats the point im trying to make
pearl stratus
This is a very angry young woman, and the tone of her tweets comes off as someone seeking vengeance more than someone who was taken advantage of.
pearl stratus
My honest guess is that DK and her did something stupid, and DK said "We can't do this. This is bad. Lets just be friends."
floral wasp
So if she cried she’d be more believeable? Lmao
pearl stratus
And now she's pissed.
tacit tartan
I'd be enraged
pseudo viper
I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY THAT THE ENTIRE TIME
tacit tartan
NOT ALL OF US WOMEN ARE THE SAME
balmy wolf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/8aton8/owl_dreamkazper_suspended_indefinitely_while_the/dx1nlk3/ Am I in the wrong here? I am CodeDonutz
tacit tartan
SOME OF US HAVE BALLS
floral wasp
That kind of reasoning is kind of messed up
tacit tartan
=w=
grizzled trout
We'll see stop speculating everyone just wait
floral wasp
I’d be mad too lol
stuck meadow
@balmy wolf SJW's
pearl stratus
Balls and being vindictive aren't the same thing - what DK did is wrong no matter what the outcome is.
But at the same time if she's exacerbating the issue and making even a LITTLE bit of it up
twin dove
aye
stuck meadow
Dont worry about them
pearl stratus
She just fucked EVERY OTHER WOMAN who has something happen.
pseudo viper
is it true that dk did this though?
pearl stratus
Thats what you need to be worried about.
stuck meadow
SJW's aren't counted as actual functioning people
floral wasp
for now, I’m gonna withhold fully condemning him until there’s an investigation
pearl stratus
Not about having balls.
floral wasp
But it looks bad
pearl stratus
But the fact if she fucks this up by trying to be vindictive no one will ever trust someone who has another accusation.
pseudo viper
she doesnt sound like someone who has been taken advantage of
twin dove
at the very least, the messages show a VERY creepy interaction a supposed minor
tacit tartan
FOR FUCKS SAKE
twin dove
that alrdy looks bad on its own
balmy wolf
I don't think we even have proof that anything is legit
tacit tartan
THATS NOT PROOF YOU IDIOT
floral wasp
What does someone who’s been taken advantage of sound like????
tacit tartan
JFC
floral wasp
That’s literally so dumb
pseudo viper
also
grizzled trout
Haha ppl already heated
pearl stratus
Taken advantage of or not isn't the argument that matters either way.
floral wasp
“She doesn’t sound like someone who’s been taken advantage of”
pseudo viper
not just that, but i think that people being against dk because he hasnt posted anything on twitter about it is wrong as well
because
pseudo viper
if you look on overbuff at his account
pearl stratus
She's 14 almost 15.
pseudo viper
he hasnt been online since yesterday
floral wasp
For fucks sake this is why people don’t come out about this stuff
tacit tartan
Aldrixx the smartest thing he can do is not to post to twitter
pseudo viper
so him not posting anything on twitter today means nothing
tacit tartan
That's the SMARTEST thing to do
twin dove
if u say nothing ppl complain, if u say something ppl complain, its a no win situation, better to just stay quiet till shit is figured out in his case
pearl stratus
Him not posting anything means his lawyer told him what to do properly.
balmy wolf
@ancient dagger＿天使#9246 why?
pseudo viper
@tacit tartan did u read what i just said
tacit tartan
If he were to post on twitter odds are something would go wrong
pseudo viper
READ WHAT I JUST SAID PLEASE
stuck meadow
Yeah no shit because people will twist what he says
twin dove
1 post would require him to keep posting or ppl would speculate even worse
and it'd snowball into a shit show
pseudo viper
PLEASE PEOPLE READ WHAT I SAID
stuck meadow
what u said tho
tacit tartan
Aldrixx post it again
twin dove
not to mention if i was dream, i sure as fk would not want to look at the internet right now
pseudo viper
ah, ok
floral wasp
Because in a lot of cases, when victims come forward, they’re immediately put up on public trial by self indoctrinated lawyers on the internet lmao
tacit tartan
Because quite literally you're point is not getting across
twin dove
be horrifying
pseudo viper
he hasnt even been on bnet since yesterday either
stuck meadow
Yes
pearl stratus
I mean the problem is the way she came forward is in a public forum.
tacit tartan
And?
tacit tartan
What does being online have to do with anything?
stuck meadow
But yeah I see what u mean Magus
floral wasp
Thanks for proving my point lol
twin dove
aye
pseudo viper
he hasnt really been on anything since yesterday, so he doesnt even have a chance to reply on twitter
pearl stratus
Being in a discord called "Houston Whores" or something like that that took all this evidence to try and gather it
Doesn't look good either.
tacit tartan
Probably because once that post went live and was noticed, they've been keeping him offline
floral wasp
lmao I’m 17 and I have gc named stupid shit like that
And so does literally any other teenager
pseudo viper
you cant keep someone offline twitter
floral wasp
That’s not proof
stuck meadow
I mean