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#esports-discussion
blazing parrot
pearl stratus
There ends up being a billion and a half things without it constantly.
Makes /r/cow more of an abortion than it normally is.
silk linden
the question threads are allowed to stay?
blazing parrot
nay, theyll get answered ( maybe) then locked
silk linden
tbh I'm with the mods on this
pearl stratus
It's for a no witch hunting rule, if you're being completely honest.
blazing parrot
once its verified they allow threads afaik
pearl stratus
Once everythings verified, then they'll do something.
Especially something like this - which would require police involvement.
silk linden
and would potentially ruin a career, nay, a life
pearl stratus
Though in its own funny way the girl can get in trouble too, it makes it really interesting.
silk linden
how so?
slim summit
Kephrii is like
pearl stratus
Distribution of child pornography.
slim summit
"Finally! I'm not the nastiest dude in OW anymore!"
pearl stratus
It's a scumbag lawyer tactic.
But its a valid one
And has worked multiple times.
Usually when someone is being uncooperative.
scarlet spear
yeah she could legit be fucked aswell
the inven article has this in it Very quickly things escalated between us and I was given his phone number and Snapchat. On Snapchat things disappear quickly, so we would engage in sexual conversations that lead to me sending him a total of two explicit images
if thats legit from the girl, she kind of says she sent nudes herself to him
pearl stratus
Doesn't matter that its her own pictures/etc, she distributed them to someone else. So she willingly engaged in the distribution of child pornography.
It's fucked.
torpid charm
Sundays in the OWL are always wild days
pearl stratus
Gotta find new games to play on Sunday.
blazing parrot
kephrii didnt do pedophilia at least
pearl stratus
I mean that we know publically.
blazing parrot
pearl stratus
If you told me one of the girls he fucked around with was 16, I wouldn't be at all shocked.
And he doesn't look like the person to check ID's.
balmy wolf
I thought kephrii did ask for underaged girls
pearl stratus
lol
blazing parrot
you think that if any of the girls were actually underage that drama would have blown over this easily?
pearl stratus
Only if they were some of the ones who joined in the bandwagon at the time.
plain sand
He's fucked lol
torpid charm
Taimou's dramatic reading of Kephrii's messages 
blazing parrot
forest wharf
@torpid charm that was glorious
blazing parrot
🕯
limber pine
pearl stratus
I mean if its real they shouldn't let it go.
torpid charm
@forest wharf when I'm sad, I watch it so I can have a good laugh
pearl stratus
He'll get released, most likely.
plain sand
He's going to jail
pearl stratus
Police involvement, depends what they can prove.
pearl stratus
He probably won't go to jail since they seem to have used Snapchat etc.
Which deletes shit.
scarlet spear
if theres legit been nudes in the trade, theres definitely going to be police involved if the girl wishes for it
altho as said she might get fucked for it herself
slim summit
Minors being charged for sexting is exceptionally rare in the US
silk linden
"Dreamkazper announces he’s running for Senate in Alabama" lmao
balmy wolf
Snapchat has a databank what are you talking anout
plain sand
DreamKasper? More like DreamCapturedByTheAuthorities
pearl stratus
I still don't trust how vindictive she is about this, tbh.
slim summit
like, I can't actually find evidence it's happened without aggravating circumstances (e.g. a minor is charged for sharing someone else's pictures without consent)
pearl stratus
I don't think its fake.
forest wharf
SugarDaddyDream
plain sand
The way she's acting isn't very reliable
scarlet spear
NotLikeThis
blazing parrot
DreamDaddy
torpid charm
DreamKazper = cancelled
pearl stratus
@slim summit It's usually used as leverage for uncooperative things, its a scare tactic more than anything.
balmy wolf
You can't check the person's tone of voice by text
balmy wolf
coarse heath
Stupid fucking mistakes man
slim summit
I doubt the police will get involved anyway
torpid charm
I'm excited to see Mistakes play
slim summit
but it's more fun this way when everything is purely speculative
pearl stratus
So if it does go to court his lawyer would most likely try to leverage the distribution of child pornography to see if she cracks and recants anything.
plain sand
Hopefully Mistakes is good
coarse heath
What a fucking waste though. One of the best DPS in the League
pearl stratus
She hints heavily at it.
blazing parrot
torpid charm
last time Mistakes played, he showed out in a good way
blazing parrot
scarlet spear
plain sand
torpid charm
not sure who it was against but he played on Hollywood during stage 2 and did pretty damn well
vagrant niche
yo what happened with DK?
forest wharf
inb4 effect traded to boston
pearl stratus
Just wouldn't be Kazper.
plain sand
cerulean plume
I know about the messages, but nudes not confirmed yet, so as long as those don't pop up he'll be okay I think
pearl stratus
Boston doesn't need Effect, they've got Striker.
vagrant niche
i'm so out of the loops can someone explain to me?
ashen flax
RIP Kazper
pearl stratus
Trade Rascal to Boston.
forest wharf
true
vagrant niche
i like his pharah a lot
ashen flax
@vagrant niche https://www.reddit.com/r/OverwatchTMZ/comments/8as0kl/dreamkazper_leaks_original_submission_got_deleted/
pearl stratus
@cerulean plume We're more talking about how nudes would fuck both of them up.
plain sand
@vagrant niche basically Kasper got accused of being a child pedo
cerulean plume
Gotcha
pearl stratus
Because she can be arrested for distribution of child pornography.
and him for having them
torpid charm
Trade Rascal to Boston 
plain sand
Yes
vagrant niche
wow
plain sand
Lots of Twitter DMs
pearl stratus
There's proof, but its DM's with awkward context mostly.
vagrant niche
godam DK so freaking stupid man,
plain sand
^
pearl stratus
And a very angry young girl spitting it all out.
Her behavior is what confuses me.
She doesn't seem upset or embarassed, or anything.
plain sand
^^^
pearl stratus
She just seems mad.
torpid charm
I laughed at the DMs when I read them because I could not take the conversations seriously but it's still hella bad
pearl stratus
And my honest guess is they did cross a line somewhere.
And Kazper probably backed the fuck off.
And she went postal.
forest wharf
oh yea, they were super cringy
pearl stratus
Which doesn't matter since Kazper still crucified himself.
But its the only thing that explains her anger over everything.
torpid charm
I wonder what Ark thinks about all this
vagrant niche
😦 Ark rip
scarlet spear
ark is a saint, dont taint him
vagrant niche
friendship ended
forest wharf
im guessing its the part where she said she found out that he was talking to other girls too that fucked her up
pearl stratus
Or when he went 'Oh shit we should not have done any of that. Lets just be friends'
So the girl remade her twitter about Linkzr, trying to bring down another pure one 😛
But Juri is pure.
plain sand
Lpl
pearl stratus
And has his of age girlfriend lol
scarlet spear
nah she seemed more of a outlaws fangirl the whole time
but dreamDaddy went into the DMs to quench his thirst i guess
pearl stratus
What the hell is their discord name though?
I know its not Houston Whores.
But its basicaly Houston Whores.
torpid charm
there are other girls that aren't Houston fangirls that are apart or know about this though
scarlet spear
something like horeston outsluts or something
vagrant niche
bro who freaking cares about some stupid under aged girl? seriously why even go there?
scarlet spear
i read that shit earlier
vagrant niche
DK is stupid
silk linden
thanks to megyn kelly he now probably also has horny twlight moms too
pearl stratus
That's fine.
torpid charm
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT LOL
torpid charm
pearl stratus
Always go over not under.
silk linden
well, over is legal at least
vagrant niche
man, what is Boston is going to do now?
silk linden
unless they're married
silk linden
DK was the best western dps
scarlet spear
can't be criminally charged if shes older at least
torpid charm
need the meme made where it's like "friendship ended with..., now... is my best friend" but with Dreamkazper and Mistakes
scarlet spear
¯_(ツ)_/¯
slim summit
I would be shocked if DreamKazper wasn't dropped
vagrant niche
no plz not Mistakes
pearl stratus
Look there's some rules okay. I didn't make the rules but they exist:
1.) Chubby people give the best oral sex. I dont know if its because they ran out of weight watcher points or what. But its true.
2.) The ugly ones do the things that pretty ones won't.
3.) Older women are just better. Find between 30 and 40. Don't go low on age, go high.
scarlet spear
yeh dreamkazper is pretty much done
slim summit
related: do you think any OWL players read the nonsense we post?
cerulean plume
pearl stratus
I mean he still could.
torpid charm
Fusion players peek in the discord a lot so they know about all the stupid shit we say, it's low-key embarrassing
forest wharf
any owl player streaming right now definitely knows about it
scarlet spear
i'm guessing they stick around more to their personal/team discords and the OW discord probably
no clue if they look into big ones like this one
plain sand
Mistakes is good
torpid charm
Fusion staff partakes in our dumb banter though, I love them
pearl stratus
If I was in the OWL I'd literally destroy all of my social media.
Just all of it.
I would be like Seagull.
Seagull is the smartest one.
Stopped streaming, stopped tweating, just kept his head down and did his thing.
torpid charm
Seagull is basically like best dad
scarlet spear
he really is smart
and im glad about that, hes fun when hes streaming in his downtime
torpid charm
glad I learned early on to chill with the social media shit and to watch what I do because it'll bite you in the ass, like this situation and many other situations
pearl stratus
I'm also sad because this is really putting a damper on the Griffin posting.
torpid charm
it's always some social media shit like pls relax everyone
pearl stratus
Which I wanted to be more drama.
Griffin leaves OW, finally gets to tweet "One tricks aren't people, fuck you, and fuck everything you stand for and you should be banned."
scarlet spear
but muh symmetra
vagrant niche
yeah i was reading that on the competitive reddit
hopefully they have role que, is long overdue
slim summit
IMO what Jeff said about 6 stacking is the real truth
pearl stratus
Role queue won't fix anything unless you end up banning for people not picking the roles they queue for.
slim summit
he just needs to make it easier to 6 stack
pearl stratus
Yeah the best solution is honestly guilds/communities.
slim summit
right now the game actively discourages 6 stacking by reducing SR gains
pearl stratus
Also they need to stop trying to make the game only put you against other stacks.
I understand why.
But it increases the wait sometimes for so long it discourages you from doing it.
vagrant niche
they need to remove golden guns too
slim summit
i've been participating in some low-masters scrims lately and it's actually fun
torpid charm
why remove golden guns
pearl stratus
Golden Guns are fine, I think you mean how tog et them.
Which I agree with
Tying comp to golden guns was a horrible idea.
vagrant niche
well that is what i'm saying, do not make them a reward for competitive
balmy wolf
Hey man, I have waited 15 minutes in other team games I don't care about the time it takes to get one
pearl stratus
Yeah you just said it super badly lol
pearl stratus
But I do agree with you.
torpid charm
I've deadass been playing the game since it came out, grinding on comp since season 2, still don't have golden guns yet. very pissed
pearl stratus
Golden Guns should be able to be a reward from any activity.
balmy wolf
Dang
torpid charm
but then again I'm shit so like it's whatever
pearl stratus
Especially since, low key, all of them but like..
3
Are ugly as fuck.
And look bad.
balmy wolf
^
pearl stratus
It makes so much different.
torpid charm
the golden nails, pure beauty
torpid charm
pearl stratus
For my 3 hours of Torb play.
deft valley
please no golden backpack though
vagrant niche
i'm considering getting the golden mace for Brigitta for my mayhem skin with her
deft valley
I've got 4
deft valley
isn't it already on the ptr?
torpid charm
I think
pearl stratus
The only other one I like is the Reinhardt axe.
deft valley
they definitely said they would
deft valley
I like Sombra's for the same reason as moira's
vagrant niche
what is that?
pearl stratus
She's 14, she still needs her parents to log into Disney Channel.
plain sand
It's not illegal for underage kids to see overage stuff
It is the other way around
But not that way
deft valley
it's illegal to show them yours
deft valley
especially unsolicited
pearl stratus
That being said - its also impossible for proof.
deft valley
↑
plain sand
Yeah
pearl stratus
He just has to say he didn't.
And it goes nowhere.
Unless she screen capped his dick.
vagrant niche
yeah there needs to be proof but at this point is not hard to believe her
cause the guy dug his own grave
plain sand
pearl stratus
Right now our only proof is that Dreamkazper is creepy.
plain sand
That's when
coarse heath
DreamKazper is done for
vagrant niche
shame, truly a shame, one of my most hyped pharah players to watch
coarse heath
He was NAs shining star
pearl stratus
Yeah but even thats not proof Poket.
torpid charm
goodbye Dreamkazper
pearl stratus
When my girlfriend went abroad for a semester we had a skype call for 7 hours.
My dick didn't get whipped out.
vagrant niche
i thought the shinning star is Mr. 150k
pearl stratus
He's gone, either way.
But its all just speculation right now, which is more damaging than facts.
coarse heath
@vagrant niche No. he’s overhyped
scarlet spear
yeah its definitely a goodbye
pearl stratus
Unless they find out that none of its true, and can get her to recant.
Then he stays.
coarse heath
He’s gonna have a tough time outside OWL as well. When they look up Jonathan Sanchez that’s what they’ll see
pearl stratus
And if that happens the next person who's actually a victim will be ignored.
coarse heath
I’m clinging on to one last desperate strand that this is somehow faked
I really want to believe that this is faked.
vagrant niche
ripperoni striker + DK synergy
i thought they guy was popular too
it's truly a shame he is stupid enough
forest wharf
either way his career is over, hes fucked
torpid charm
that's what I was about to say
you literally cannot redeem yourself from a situation like this
pearl stratus
Even if its faked it won't really save him.
It just really hurts future victims.
Because no one will ever believe them.
pearl stratus
They'd be stupid to talk about it
coarse heath
I even said that he would be an amazing OWL face in the past
God how things have changed
That was like a week ago
forest wharf
yea, even if its somehow confirmed fake its already out there, hes never playing pro again
pearl stratus
Well it depends how quickly its confirmed.
balmy wolf
1K fine /s
pearl stratus
If they confirm it like..
Tomorrow.
He'll be fine.
It'd still be fresh, people remember it etc.
But if they confirm it six months from now.
People have already forgotten by then.
vagrant niche
confirm what?
coarse heath
If it’s faked
pearl stratus
If it was faked, in reference to Anomanders thing.
vagrant niche
didn't he already admitted?
coarse heath
Yeah
pearl stratus
He hasn't admitted anything really.
balmy wolf
All of the admitting were through dms
balmy wolf
^
scarlet spear
it is pretty easy, the video of her scrolling through her DMs with him on the other hand is pretty good evidence
at least not as easy to fake as your everyday DMs
balmy wolf
I want a slower version of that convo to get the juice
torpid charm
I feel bad for his girlfriend
pearl stratus
You just need to change user names and portrait
vagrant niche
the evidence will be there through the phone service providers when the authorities will go and investigate
vagrant niche
there's no escape from that
balmy wolf
slim summit
both are true
vagrant niche
i don't know,
coarse heath
Yeah
torpid charm
8 inches
balmy wolf
He's poking fun of it too since he has a size matters mug 
coarse heath
Kephrii made some stupid fucking mistakes man
forest wharf
pause it?
vagrant niche
i aint even going to google that, i don't care about seeing a guy's private parts
slim summit
ha ha ha ha ha ha
balmy wolf
That's why getting headshots is also called getting 8inched
vagrant niche
kephrii is not that good anyways, i thought he was good
then OWL started
.... changed my view about him that's for sure
Mr. Logix is da boi
and Fleta and Birdring
torpid charm
where's the Taimou reading, I need it
scarlet spear
the taimou reading was hilarious
vagrant niche
reading what?
balmy wolf
scarlet spear
reading kephriis sexting DMs
torpid charm
@balmy wolf thank yoooooou
balmy wolf
Wait you think he's gonna have a last shot 
vagrant niche
MonkaS
balmy wolf
His career is over
vagrant niche
yeah same here, i was never disappointed with his pharah
he was probably the only Boston player i liked the most
pseudo nimbus
well now you have something to be disappointed in lul
vagrant niche
dafranFeelsBadMan
vivid mesa
scarlet spear
ruby pendant
so is dream in trouble?
torpid charm
first comment under the post: "no fucking shit"
short vault
slim summit
always with the breaking news, that Slasher
stone creek
deft valley
suspended, not dropped yet: https://twitter.com/BostonUprising/status/983109753059663872
presumably during the investigation
forest wharf
oof
scarlet spear
he allegedly showed his shlong to her multiple times on facetime/snapchat at least
worn falcon
Wew
forest wharf
yea theres allegedly been a few nudes passed between them
gentle jetty
o m e g a l u l
forest wharf
also lol'd that the last tweet from uprising is dreamkazper answering a q&a about outlaws game
torpid charm
goodbye Dreamkazper
torpid charm
poor Uprising boys
forest wharf
deft valley
no shitposting please, especially on this topic
cerulean plume
short vault
fervent perch
What did he do
short vault
scroll
golden tundra
didn't he have a GF as well?
vagrant niche
can't see anything, is protected
pseudo nimbus
this kind shit is what hurts esports from becoming big
forest wharf
lol obviously bigger than xqc...he just said dumb shit, at least hes not a pedo
deft valley
"real" sports stars have actually murdered people
golden tundra
^
floral wasp
I just feel bad for the girl he was harassing
vagrant niche
well, i have heard that sexual assault etc is worse than murder, but i aint getting into that
either way
bad is bad
no matter how you look at it
covert oracle
Lemme guess dreamkazper?
cobalt brook
S U S PE NDED
deft valley
@vagrant niche There's sports stars who've done that too
point is, it's not any different here than in "serious" sports
unfortunately
worn falcon
This is gonna put some sponsors turning back
floral wasp
Like,,, I don’t even wanna think of the years of therapy that this would induce for that girl and his gf
deft valley
I'm expanding upon the point
vagrant niche
Boston is just going to probably be taken out of sponsors that's for sure
vagrant niche
they are all going to drawback
forest wharf
oh god loool
floral wasp
The best thing the league can do right now is drop him quickly
vagrant niche
do you think a sponsor wants to be associated with a group that had that scandal?
i think not
it's their image on their brand
floral wasp
maybe just Boston will receive a cutback?
deft valley
if no sponsors wanted to be associated with that
golden tundra
FINED
deft valley
then none of the American big four leagues would exist
floral wasp
no I mean like Boston receives less ad revenue not a fine
covert oracle
When the xqc shit started thats when the league started falling appart
deft valley
it's not remotely falling apart lmao
floral wasp
Okay but nothing xqc did could put him in jail
This is a different level than just # drama
vagrant niche
to me, personally, in my honest opinion, this is the very first offence i see as serious
short vault
same
covert oracle
Same here.
torpid charm
DK =
covert oracle
This Kinda reminds me of this guy named Jinbop. He's been deported back to china and is probs executed by now.
But what I'm saying is. Don't judge a book by it's cover
worn falcon
All those jerseys bought by the fans = 🔥
forest wharf
oof silkthread ama just started on r/cow...worst possible time
tacit tartan
Okay, some of these aren't that bad. And then some of these are just outright fucking creepy.
covert oracle
Because we don't see what these guys are really like. We only see how they act on stream and in the leauge. Not behind the scenes
tacit tartan
I mean, I think we can all agree Profit has a 99.99999% chance of being a really cool dude even in private 👀
Or that's just me
xD
forest wharf
inb4 hes actually a serial killer
willow shore
ok i just joined in what happened with dreamkazper
tacit tartan
Oh god please no
covert oracle
I think effect is a chill dude too regardless. Or in my sister's case he could secretly be a north korean spy
torpid charm
wild cause this is most likely going on with other players but isn't under wraps
Effect is an angry boy
vagrant niche
Bischu is the one that strikes to me as the cool guy to chill with
worn falcon
@willow shore scroll up there are some links
willow shore
@worn falcon ight thanks
forest wharf
sbb is 100% pure tho
torpid charm
I wanna hug Bischu, he's such a sweet boy. his dad came to watch him play and they were both so smiley
worn falcon
SBB is my hope
torpid charm
SBB #1 married man
covert oracle
My sister thinks all koreans are north koreans... Even in overwatch wtf is wrong with her.
torpid charm
he is angry ashell right now at this whole situation I bet
@covert oracle ya sister wild
scarlet spear
the whole NYXL is great tbh, they all seem so wholesome and likeable
vagrant niche
they are the my most likeable korean team ye
scarlet spear
vagrant niche
jjonakStrong
torpid charm
I'm buying a Supreme hoodie because Jjonak has one
covert oracle
Exactly. @torpid charm not my fault she had a grandfather who fought in the imperial army. Lol.
But i do want to meet effect and his girlfriend
torpid charm
Effect is getting toward that committed man power like SBB
her cosplays are always so nice
tacit tartan
TBH I think the two teams I'd be surprised to see someone violating OWL's rules from would be Spitfire and NYXL
Both have really good sets of players
scarlet spear
except for birdflipping profit, hes a real bad boy
torpid charm
Profit, the cutest bad boi in the league
covert oracle
I wouldn't be surprised if shanghai did something
tacit tartan
Profit is great though xD
torpid charm
Undad did something LOL
paper crag
^
covert oracle
I say that cause me and my sis support shanghai but they always lose
paper crag
so what kinds of actual evidences are there for this dreamkazper fiasco
paper crag
other than people saying "it happened yo"
covert oracle
Inb4 keemstar
civic marsh
how can u be so stupid lol
tacit tartan
Good question 
covert oracle
He needs to learn how to keep that rein hammer in his pants
scarlet spear
what he needs to learn now is how to keep that rein hammer away from him in the shower 
covert oracle
I'm glad you agree mirai. Lol you're nice.
torpid charm
@tacit tartan that Bdosin emote is adorable
covert oracle
Geguri?
tacit tartan
1 sec... my copy and paste is needing a restart apparently 🔨
bitter phoenix
Geguri is that girl on SD?
tacit tartan
covert oracle
I saw a frog so i said geguri
bitter phoenix
I didn't even realize that was a girl until someone pointed it out lol
balmy wolf
Well rip
covert oracle
Oh?
deft valley
what the hell is /r/competow
torpid charm
woooow
slim summit
lol
balmy wolf
Sub par version of tmz 
deft valley
the subreddit sidebar links are tmz and cj 
balmy wolf
scarlet spear
i saw that before
i think its some sub made by some dude salty that he got banned from r/cow
balmy wolf
Lolol
paper crag
i wonder what all those colors on xqc's schedule is supposed to mean
deft valley
sure looks like that
forest wharf
just take note of dk's twitter profile pic right now...https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/875181567689216000/FYSZw7w5_400x400.jpg
does not help at all
balmy wolf
It's been like that for a while now
balmy wolf
Is it Loli? I thought it was just rule 63
paper crag
yeah idk if you can call that loli
paper crag
but the pic still adds to the humor of the situation nonetheless
am i a bad person for thinking this is a humorous situation
balmy wolf
Fueling the fire I see /s
slim summit
this is hilarious
- playing with fire and ending up burned
- hilarious comparisons to previous scandals
- just about the worst damn thing our society has decided a person can do
forest wharf
its fucked up, but also ..."call me super daddy dream"
balmy wolf
When's taimou gonna read the dms
slim summit
lol
balmy wolf
Welp with this done time to reexamine and re organize my fantasy owl picks
tfw go to #esports-discussion to see if you guys are talking about dk
slim summit
of course we are
balmy wolf
cerulean plume
Gonna need a drama tab mods
slim summit
overwatch league is 75% drama
deft valley
it's almost like people talk about news that happen
slim summit
20% matches
deft valley
wew
sullen berry
that is a misleading title, no?
slim summit
5% actual esports analysis
wet oyster
tbh idk why esports isn't it's own category
cerulean plume
Because I'm willing to bet this shit will go non stop, with more players and orgs
wet oyster
boston is rekt
balmy wolf
@sullen berry yeah just a bit
wet oyster
of course it is @sullen berry it's a drama channel
balmy wolf
Definitely gives the impression he's already been banned
wet oyster
he was suspended
sullen berry
I watch one video of these, they're quality filler for time
wet oyster
indefinetely
cerulean plume
Stylosa 20 min vid when 
wet oyster
truth
balmy wolf
Ngl I was expecting to hear Ryan central and or mysca on the video
wet oyster
mykl's video is going to be 25 minutes of rambling about how when he was a pro, he did this all the time, he understands exactly where dk is coming from
balmy wolf
Don't forget about the 7 ads
cerulean plume
With a 9 min upcomer add
paper crag
huh so apparently Toronto E-sports is Boston's academy team?
cerulean plume
wet oyster
they are?
balmy wolf
Yes
high tiger
paper crag
i wonder if that makes them more or less likely to be an OWL team one day lol
cerulean plume
It's the sister company etc
deft valley
neither
wet oyster
they probably weren't planning on being one to be fair
deft valley
they were
cerulean plume
I see
wet oyster
oh
paper crag
too expensive now, i think
deft valley
the company will have to take on a new roster either way
paper crag
it's $40M now
deft valley
it will be more than that for s2
wet oyster
are they discounting for teams from season 1?
deft valley
yes, early bird special
paper crag
yeah, i suppose it's like founders pricing lol
deft valley
believing in a new unproven product etc etc
wet oyster
do you think they'll charge twitch more now?
cerulean plume
Founders edition
wet oyster
or they'll try to get on tv
deft valley
they might
paper crag
(lab rats)
wet oyster
i bet they'll try to partner w/ one of the espn channels or smth
if they're not with twitch exclusively
but if they do that, i doubt twitch would keep letting them do all-access pass
i hope they open a stadium in Philly but i doubt they will
the real question is which teams will drop out for next season?
sullen berry
I'm actually seeing shanghai drop out of season 2 if they aren't seeing any benefit in the OWL for them by the time season 2 is over - that would be a massive upset seeing any of the 12 teams leave
wet oyster
probably shanghai
deft valley
they're not dropping out
wet oyster
maybe dallas if they can't restaff and get shit together
maybe for next season they might though
sullen berry
their actual image itself will be a reason not to drop
paper crag
chinese esports money goes a long way
sullen berry
obviously they still HAVE fans
paper crag
and even if they don't win much, as long as they make money, the org will stay in the team
wet oyster
pity fans
paper crag
although winning certainly helps in making money
sullen berry
not even pity ones - patriotism is pretty frickin powerful tool they have going for them
deft valley
and since a lot of the revenue is shared, they still make money even if they're bad
paper crag
the thing is that SHD is now almost always going to be 3-4 koreans out of 6
deft valley
at the very least enough money to not be a drain
paper crag
so the patriotism part might be a little weaker
wet oyster
maybe 5 @paper crag
sullen berry
if they make money, they don't have any additional incentives to play a full chinese starting lineup that represents them like the Dragons does by brand power alone for support
paper crag
the chinese would rather see a 6 chinese squad based in LA than 3 chinese 3 korean squad based in china
wet oyster
i think recently they played a roster with only altering as a chinese player
if Miraculous Youngsters can get someone to buy in they'd be fairly successful
wet oyster
sky, ado, fearless, geguri, daemin
forest wharf
sky is chinese
wet oyster
oh nvm
deft valley
Shd's academy has signed some ex-MY players
sullen berry
@paper crag at least they've worked on their PR game a little - nothing that's game changing but at least they've made a start since their very first announcement
paper crag
i'm really eager to see who becomes SHD's first win
sullen berry
one would like to believe they aren't doing minimum 80Hrs
paper crag
i hope it's one of the stronger teams
not a team where everyone focuses on the fact that "k this team is finally worse than SHD"
but more like "wow SHD can beat THIS team?"
paper crag
if you guys know what i mean
torpid charm
paper crag
so a map loss is actually -1 on your score, right?
wet oyster
on the map differential
wet oyster
yeah
sullen berry
@wet oyster zunba rarely gets time on Zarya, only a matter of Shanghai Triple tank working consistently will we ever get those moments where the frog will pop
balmy wolf
yo have yall heard about the dreamkazper situation?
slim summit
who's dreamkazper
vagrant niche
ye boi, he's suspended
warped axle
The most quiet team just had the biggest controversy so far
balmy wolf
and i was starting to like dreamkazper....:(
slim summit
which team has had the least controversy
torpid charm
DreamKazper who
slim summit
houston?
torpid charm
more like cancelled man
warped axle
Glads
slim summit
glads coach literally assaulted jake + muma during a match
and nothing came of it somehow
balmy wolf
wait seriously?
scarlet spear
he bumped shoulders
torpid charm
didn't he just bump into them by accident
slim summit
oh, he was valiant at the time
torpid charm
nah he got fined
balmy wolf
the dreamkazper's situation is different though
tbh i could see him getting arrested or probation
slim summit
his own press release said that it was an accident
vital saddle
Who dreamkazper?
scarlet spear
only team without drama is NYXL i think ?
warped axle
Do your research before you start spreading info
balmy wolf
probably
vital saddle
Oh
slim summit
but there were a lot of rumors floating around that it was an "accident"
and that was his excuse
deft valley
Philly had the OG drama, but it's kinda forgotten about by now
warped axle
EQO drama just happened
slim summit
because the guy "bumped into" two players hard enough that he felt he had to apologize himself in public?
deft valley
althoguh there's eqo now nvm
vital saddle
Man I'm a Boston fan and we gonna get crushed now
torpid charm
right, lol
vagrant niche
EQO stuff was just dumb
deft valley
i was talking Sado
vagrant niche
what about Sado?
warped axle
Florida hasn't had any drama
rare sonnet
What if DK is actually innocent, it would be crazy and that girl would never recover
slim summit
has anyone on Shock been suspended?
deft valley
he boosted accounts in korea
warped axle
They just aren't great
torpid charm
coming into the league is was like "omg, someone on Philly team can't play till stage 4." and that was the biggest thing
vagrant niche
like OGE?
slim summit
Good thing Florida didn't have any drama in stage 1, they would have had to forfeit matches
deft valley
like ran a full on boosting business too
balmy wolf
dont think shock has anyone suspended
rare sonnet
This whole drama will end with one party getting their life ruined
deft valley
OGE did it on the side iirc
Sado's punishment was 3 stages so they judged it a bigger deal
rare sonnet
Sado said he didn't own a boosting business which is a straight lie, idk why
covert oracle
The girl has alot of inconsistencies. And contradictions
slim summit
IMHO the difference in punishment between OGE and Sado is too big
deft valley
maybe
slim summit
OGE = booster
covert oracle
With some saying and noticing she flirted first
rare sonnet
yeah but apparently OGE didn't do anything when he was 'employed'
scarlet spear
who cares if she flirted first
deft valley
it's the scale
scarlet spear
hes 22 years old and knew shes underage
deft valley
and the fact that KR community raised up a storm about it
vital saddle
ACTUALLY
scarlet spear
thats a big fat no in every single book
vital saddle
I HEARD HE WAS 21
covert oracle
But i'm not gonna get involved in something that i don't know all the facts about
vital saddle
Which makes you wrong I am so smart
warped axle
I'm still not 100% convinced that this allegation wasn't just faked by a salty Houston fan who took it way too far
deft valley
oh jesus fucking christ
vital saddle
Well isn't this centered around a bunch of outlaw fans that are like 14?
slim summit
yeahhhhhhhh this isn't the US presidential election
where you can just dismiss everything as being totally fabricated from scratch
scarlet spear
she has his phone number, evidence of facetime calls, theres him in DMs overlapping with scrim times on xQcs accidental calendar leak, his girlfriend had a breakdown on twitter, its looking pretty grim for him
deft valley
not remotely just outlaw fans
covert oracle
I'm just not gonna get involved. Back to the comp chats i go
drowsy fulcrum
well Boston's fucked
deft valley
and the fact that she's 14 is pretty much the issue
slim summit
also nobody yet has come forward to deny it
rare sonnet
@slim summit everything is like that nowadays, nobody believes anything
vital saddle
Hmm
slim summit
also someone else took screenshots of a convo with him
balmy wolf
@deft valley well duh
covert oracle
I'm a Dallas Shanghai and seoul and valiant fan
vagrant niche
0-23 on Wend.
rare sonnet
DK on suicide watch
balmy wolf
Also why the fuck does someone have a pic of the xqc scrim schedule from a month ago
vital saddle
I feel like salty fans would do something like this BUT NOT ON THIS LEVEL. Tbh I'm convinced that Kaz actually did it
oak schooner
dk is in my house and he has dva hentai monkaS
slim summit
it's easy AF to vindicate yourself in this position
balmy wolf
Yeah but how does someone remember that shit
slim summit
just open up your twitter to your bosses and the OWL IMMEDIATELY
give them your phone
rare sonnet
@balmy wolf i remember it very easy, i don't get ur point
deft valley
not giving up your phone is a time honored boston sports tradition
rare sonnet
maybe im an elephant
drowsy fulcrum
yeah I'm probably not gonna buy those Boston skins I promised until he's officially off the team, and honestly if there's a chance of the cash going to DK neither should you
deft valley
laughs in brady
warped axle
Fuck New England
rare sonnet
Boston skins are off limits permanently for me lol
slim summit
it's not random, the scrims were mentioned
balmy wolf
same
slim summit
someone was investigating
vital saddle
So who are they gonna replace dreamkazper with?
slim summit
i thought that was pretty clever
deft valley
the scrims were mentioned in the messages
warped axle
Mistakes
vagrant niche
Mistakes
torpid charm
Mistakes atm
vital saddle
Ok thanks
torpid charm
put y'all faith in Mistakes
warped axle
I don't even remember seeing him play in Stage 2
deft valley
he's russian so i will
rare sonnet
@balmy wolf its literally the only evidence of a scrim schedule that has ever been leaked so its the first piece of evidence to go to
balmy wolf
He was p good when he played
deft valley
he's mah boi
slim summit
no matter how good Mistakes is
deft valley
the otehr mah boi
balmy wolf
🤔
slim summit
he's not gonna be one of the best DPS in the league like Kazper
warped axle
Can you play a lot of heroes
deft valley
the first one's benched :(
balmy wolf
Well that nails the coffin ¯_(ツ)_/¯
slim summit
less than a week after trade window closes you lose your star player
rare sonnet
who will replace DK/
vital saddle
I'm not super fan for the owl rn but is mistakes any good? Haven't seen him play really or am I just blind?
warped axle
Because you need to let Striker stay on Tracer
rare sonnet
?
balmy wolf
Still weird that it's right after the houston loss
rare sonnet
Mistakes does not fill DK's spot at all
deft valley
he didn't really play on boston
slim summit
better luck next year, Boston
torpid charm
Mistakes played on a round of Hollywood but I don't remember who they were playing against, I could check
slim summit
Boston should pick up Pine
warped axle
@balmy wolf That's why I'm not totally convinced
deft valley
Transfer window's closed, no roster changes until next season @slim summit
vital saddle
There is no way they could get pine
rare sonnet
the fact that the transfer window literally just closed is peak for Boston
balmy wolf
Flower
slim summit
I don't think NYXL actually wants Pine that badly
balmy wolf
They can get him
deft valley
even if they could get him
torpid charm
Flow3r is with NY
slim summit
Pine is already b-string and Fl0w3r ages in next year
vagrant niche
I wish Pine would play more
vital saddle
Tru
balmy wolf
And since it's the patriots they have the money
warped axle
Who wouldn't want Pine wtf
slim summit
Pine's gonna be a permanent benchboy like IDDQD
rare sonnet
Boston should legitimately get Mangachu
vital saddle
Well what's the chance they get pine?
vagrant niche
Pine is the new Seagull
warped axle
His McCree is one of the best in the world
torpid charm
I don't think Pine is gonna go anywhere
rare sonnet
Or buy the seagull
slim summit
Pine could be a top 5 McCree but it wouldn't matter if you have the top 1 and 2 McCree's already on your team
Same reason Fissure got traded
definitely one of the best main tanks in the league but London already had a couple of those
vital saddle
So rn who is Boston gonna pick up when they can?
slim summit
Boston can't pick anyone up
strong crescent
so is dreamkazper completely fucked or not
slim summit
their roster is locked for the rest of the season
warped axle
NYXL need a top tier DPS sub
slim summit
DK is 100% fucked
warped axle
Pine is their choice
vital saddle
I know when they can
slim summit
he would be very very very very very lucky to ever be allowed in the league again
probably he won't be
strong crescent
either that or the allegations aren't as bad as they seem at first glance
but that's unlikely
very very unlikely
vagrant niche
they look pretty bad from what i saw
vital saddle
When there roster is unlocked who they gonna pickup?
vagrant niche
he dun goofed
balmy wolf
Well if we get a slowed down version of that leaked DM video we can tell
torpid charm
DK fucked either way so it don't matter
warped axle
By the time they can add new players 16 new teams will exist
vagrant niche
also there's new contenders
vital saddle
Dang
vagrant niche
anybody seen that crazy tank Panker?
warped axle
So yeah season 2 is going to be insane
vital saddle
Nope
balmy wolf
Idk
vital saddle
Who yall got for stage 3
warped axle
28 total
vagrant niche
I want Mayhem to do better
torpid charm
I thought they said 24 total
warped axle
It's just a rumor
balmy wolf
The new teams might get buttfucked by the current teams if they have only new owl players
slim summit
🤷 i'm not up to date
NYXL is gonna win stage 3, look at how they just destroyed London
nobody can come close to stopping them
torpid charm
OWL making big movies in the future, we know that for sure
vital saddle
Pretty much
vagrant niche
Fuel played very well vs them, same with Mayhem on the last of stage 2
torpid charm
Philly may not have won last stage playoffs but still proud cause they got that far
vital saddle
Boston is pretty much rip without dream
slim summit
the gap between NYXL and the rest of the teams is bigger than the gap between Shanghai and the rest of the teams
torpid charm
put me in OWL, I'll take DK's spot
vital saddle
Lmao
warped axle
As much I hate Valiant they look like they can threaten NYXL atm
vagrant niche
people on the main reddit are overhyping Geguri, i said many times she aint going to do much for that team
she actually feed a couple of times
vital saddle
Think anyone will stop NYXL next season or stage
warped axle
Geguri is a Dva main
balmy wolf
not realy
torpid charm
I was just really excited around the fact that she's the first female playing in OWL
warped axle
Dvas are hard to judge
balmy wolf
same
balmy wolf
more diversity
warped axle
A bad Dva main is obvious, but a good one not so much
vagrant niche
are hard to judge as good
warped axle
No she's been playing Dva for ages
balmy wolf
^
warped axle
Her Zarya is more famous
torpid charm
oh okay I understand that then
balmy wolf
She's been streaming dva for most of dive
vagrant niche
ADO is the only good thing i have seen from shangai from the remains of the bursts Undead left
strong crescent
there's no anything in the entire league that could save shanghai
torpid charm
Xushu was a good D.va when he had to come in and flex for them but obviously that's not enough
I'm trynna save Shanghai
warped axle
Good supports could save SHD
strong crescent
not good supports
slim summit
give them some time to become a good team
they've only been playing with each other for a week
everyone else has been playing together for almost 6 months
strong crescent
but supports that can communicate with everyone else