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It'll just be a dive with a little less tracer.
I mostly see more poke-style comps in low SR
And a little more soldier.
She charges in and shield bash for a pick?
That's literally it.
i think she'll push in a very boring tank lockdown meta
It'll still be dive.
Mm
I won't. Tanks are garbage and easily countered by reaper.
It'll just be a non-tracer dive.
JJONAK
Rip closer
it will rain frogs
rein/zarya/brig/moira/tracer/soldier
with just a little team help
a sandwich will be voted president
If you go when she's alive.
watch the world burn
But you're not talking about Silver and Golds.
I hate playing against brigitte
land a stun and reaper is dead
Pros will just burn her shield and death blossom.
Her shield goes down faster than a date at prom.
Lul
not if you know how to use it well
Yeah no, you're right. No way Orissa shields get destroyed so fast right now currently.
Brigittes will totally last longer.
My bad.
I say this as a silver player but i really hate brigitte’s shield bash
her cc should be a slightly higher cooldown
Just get a Junkrat and blow up her shield.
and i think its kinda bs that she can 1 shot a tracer
She's not going to -not- put it up if you're pilling her in the face.
another ult jjonak
TF
she shouldn't have 2 fucking stuns
Or just out range her with someone like soldier
Just noticed, they swapped Pine off the Widow.
Pine's on Junkrat now
Minus maybe a Pharah barrage.
whip is lucio boop on steroids
yeah it only does knockback
lmao gg
Gg
Shield bash needs slightly higher cooldown imo
damn that full hold
Like 7 seconds
I don't think it needs a higher cooldown.
Instead of 5
It needs a smaller cone.
i'm gonna go to bed and cry about London losing again
It has like a console cone right now.
night lads
You just have to be in the general direction.
pine doing great at junkrat
@balmy ibex 8 seconds would bring it in line with flashbang and hook
Night
gn
Yeah 8 Secs
that's so fun
FUN FUN FUN
zarya bubbles as well
but hey its balanced cuz molten core has more hp than dva
@pearl stratus 😠
so there's counter play with her projected barrier
Torb is fun
Molten Core = Lets just stand here for 8 seconds while they get mad they have a Torb.
Then Molten Core ends
And you go back to your 5v6.
MOLTEN WHOOOOOOOOOORE
i got told by a genji that my turret was in a bad position recently
Real question- why wouldnt you have a torb every match? Kappa
london losing is my fault. the teams i root for always lose
flying about acting like an enforcer
cunt had 30 minutes on Torb
blocking burst damage
didn't understand the first thing about him
but still had better knowledge of turret placement than a 50 hour torb main
i love torb mains
Torb mains are people too
yeah ok like orisa's shield gets destroyed quick
i should be a torb 1 trick for the few days i have before the avoid feature
the ones that know what they're doing can snowball like fuck
they are throwers
torb on koth is a throw
Have... you ever played with people who know how to focus fire?
damn it
@spring lintel a thrower is a thrower, but someone who knows their hero isn't
Brigitte doesn't live without her shield.
WAKE UP LONDON
Torb is actually one of the better heroes on Koth
Koth torb is better than 2CP torb
She's a fat little girl who takes hits like her boyfriend is Ray Rice.
nyxl are NOT BETTER THAN YOU LONDON
set torb up on koth and you own the point
They are tho 
^
torb advice right here for all you young men and women
guess we'll just have to wait and see
put a level 1 turret down in a teamfight and ignore it
but if u dont have point?
why was that on my clipboard
She's going to stop some Tracers, don't get me wrong.
But she's not enough to remove dive, or anything close to it.
Just adjust dive.
COME GETCHYUR ARRRMURRR
@spring lintel Every Koth map has a really good torb setup point if your team pushes to distract, or you put down a level 1 for small area denial in a taemfiht
TORBJORN, READY TO WORK
that's how you play torb
ARMOR OVER HERE
torbjorn, ready to fuck
I DONT LIKE THIS STANDING AROUND
Also she's a hard spot for support because you'll be hard pressed to run her + Zenyatta.
AARDVARK PAYS OFF
denial with 10 dps
Because for her to perform well she can't really be babysitting the Zen.
Or she'll do no healing at all.
GO AND DO WHAT YOU WERE BUILT TO DO
I HAVE BIG PLONS FOR YOU
@spring lintel it's 28 actually, and it does the job even at the highest level of play
@pearl stratus you could say the same thing about lucio
TORBJORN THINGS
it depends on how cautious you're playing
MOLTEN CORE
people ignore it over heroes and it's a solid 28 damage
He can do it much easier because his healing isn't reliant on making physical contact.
Torb is also amazing in teamfights if he has a full clip
So you either need to burn your whip shot to maintain your healing aura.
Or run up to hit something.
Torbs rivet gun 😫😫😫😫😫😫
Is orisa reload time the longest
but he has next to no falloff with his primary fire and his secondary fire can oneshot Tracer/Baby D.Va and everyone up to Mei with a headshot
yes
my favourite thing to do as Torb on Dorado point one is drop from the balcony onto their healer and oneshot them
Brigittes E is huge, but its not enough to not maintain the Aura when paired with a Zen.
That's Brig's biggest limitation, imo.
baguette
Brigitte, what does the scouter say about his power level
Baguette livestock
is it bri-get or brig-et
@balmy wolf Bregita
brig-ee-tuh
Its brig-eet-uh
like Vegeta
Torb Jr
brig as in the brig of a ship
brigtitities
that's why real men call Brigitte "YOU COCKY BASTARD"
Brigeetuh, ready to vark
tee-r-and-eh
AARDVARK PAYS OFF
reminder that Vegeta only got Super Saiyan by being sad
Papa Jeff said its pronounced To-rb Jr.
oh wow spitfire got full held?
I love this video tbh
@vast kraken torb is one syllable tho
Yeah I tried to make it look like a pronunciation by putting the hyphen 😂
bring-it-UH
dive is just busted, all that verticality and they still have an awesome kit 😂
?
the union jack thing?
the photoshop hurts me
only if you're a graphic designer
I took off my headphones for a moment so I had no context
no one else would give a shit lol
I just looked up and saw... that
a few cameras and some shitty stats
will london reverse sweep 
^
can see kings row and hollywood being the hybrid maps when brig enters owl
no london will lose this
NYXL Strat: Play Pine on Blizz World, a hybrid map, then not play him on Nepal, a control map and Pine specialty
👌
probably will still win
so pharah into junkrat/tracer and you lose the fight?
yeah no way london wins this
shows how much the ground game is worth
LOL
JJONAK
also what the fuck are those new nyxl skins
JJONAK PLZ
i'm guessing it's an ult dump and switch?
fucking beautiful
wow
no? he's still pharah?
what happened to the nice blue skins
JJONAK BRUH
away skins
^
it's a pharah point
what do you mean
but wth is this?
how the fuck do you be "away"
London is also blue
there's away skins and home skins
there's one stadium
teams have a homa and away skins
lmao trap on zen
so he literally dumped barrage on solo zen and still died?
it makes no sense yes
but they have them still to have more difference in colours
They can't have two blue skins at the same time, it'd be confusing.
@strong crescent esports = real sports so they must copy real sports to the letter
cuz if mayhem went against shanghai, both would have yellow and red skins
not that two completely different color teams both play on home skins...
gonna have the fans chucking beers at each other in a minute
this team is insane
then we'll call it a real sport
Jjonak and SBB carry
only 1 death
1 wtf
what the fuck has happened to london
@stone creek this isn't millwall
and profit
london getting d e s t r o y e d
1 KILL WTF
lmao
last 2 stages they were so good
JJonaK most elims and final blows holy shit
@fading wasp it's actually newcastle
this stage they're literally trash
1 kill on libero throwing
They do the aways it the same way they do in soccer/football. The alternates are only used if the main ones are similar in color, to avoid confusion.
I mean London was being exposed early on in the pervious stages but this is something else
yeah
easiest game of their life
Profit is not the same
Maybe too much split playing time between the different rosters 🤔
He just isn't getting those insane kills he used to
literally 1 fucking death
Putting on hooreg was a mistake
1 elim is gold
They should have stuck with birdring and have tried to make it work
at least 3 of the players had gold elims
that was close
what is profit doing tho
The real question is what the spectator is doing
PROFIT WOA
WELL I TAKE IT BACK THEN
pleeeeeze pull this back
ok how do you see the elims and deaths of each player
like I'm on the command center thing
paying 30 bucks to see stats OMEGALUL
they're doing a free trial thing
ark lol
probably because nobody bought it LUL
who would pay for this
30 to see stats nah mate
that would be way too hard to implement though
no?
If they let you swap between anyone's perspective, that'd be good.
i wouldn't spend 30 to feed myself let alone see some stats
bastion
bastion?
bastion hype
Yeah go jjonak
BEEP BOOP BEEP
BASTION BOIS
BEEP BOOP 😦
boop
YO BASTION
no more doo wop 😦
i don't care about stuff like spectator povs tbh
as long as they gave stats like damage, healing, etc.
Mano with the save
then i'd buy
thats not worth 30 bucks
well
20
thats basic info we should have anyways
and if they're not gonna give it out for free
totally worth the 20 kappa
i'm gonna buy it
Definitely not worth $30
mano amazng
just because I like stats
i think THE most crucial information we could get is the top-down view with hero icons
second most important thing would be releasing replays atleast where we can spectate anyone
same thing as cs go
and then individual player POV i guess, as far as twitch goes
It couldn't be too difficult to program a website where you can swap between feeds.
its not
and i still can't believe a game designed with esports in mind from its conception doesn't have a replay mode
with player pov
^
the thing is that cs:go already had replays programmed in
owl is so rushed tbh
from its origins
ow has been out for almost 2 years+beta
@strong crescent exactly. why did OW, a game that came out years after CSGO and with esports in mind, not have it?
fuck sake
gg
literally fs
WOOT
destroyed no competition
cs:go already had a replay feature from quake
that's what baffles me
N
Y
X
L 
it would take a lot of programming
Wish i could spectate anyone i wanted so i can stop spectating fucking tracers all the time
literally how
im so angereyyyy
and I guess blizzard is just pushing it off

to make more event skins
also, i'm pretty convinced that nerfing zen will only make jjonak more op
nyxl decided to stop throwing
london vs NY going on right now?>
Jjonak will never not be op
like I know that's not how game design works
He finds a way
cuz jjonak said so
Gg
but it's the only guess I have
hows the match going?
yeah, the nerf will affect everyone else so much more than it does jjonak
why am i wearing this london shit rn
Definitely, @paper crag. The nerf is such that the skill dichotomy will just be larger between him and other zens.
Can we make this 2-2 please
nyxl just won
Ny 3-0 london
which will make jjonak so much more op
not really
Ehhhhhh
Annnnd here's your stats @strong crescent
damn
nope nyxl ez clapped them
Ny is op
london look mad shook rn
so i'm not 100% sure on what the zen right click nerf is. is it the firing rate or projectile speed that's getting nerfed? or both?
Ny isn't op, london have become slushed shit
there was a round when london had only 1 kill
Fire rate
Stage 3: Everyone is washed up except New York
London is NYXL's counter.. or was
ah okay
aww
that's not tooooo bad...
I think their loss on thursday's killed london's oompf
it'll still be faster than left click 5 times right? lol
oh is it already on PTR?
i don't play PTR so i didn't know lol
actually I probably wouldn't buy the all access pass thing
because some site like winston's lab will
I don't either
and I'll just pull my stats off of there
Access pass is shit
But it's not a big nerf. It wasn't necessary, but it's not a big deal.
if they did publish stats like damage and the like
to make up for that nerf, zen should become hitscan
ahahahaha no
👌
jjonak would be unstoppable
and let him attack while in ult
dear god wtf
give slow on discord
and discord is automatically applied to everyone
Do you want NYXL to be a guaranteed loss? Because that's how you make NYXL a guaranteed loss.
through walls
every enemy around zen during ult gets discorded
That and I"m actually better at aiming projectiles than I am hitscan
zen ignored terrain while in ult
every enemy everywhere gets discorded
make the discord poison
no matter what
10 hp per second
Discord is just instakill
Zen ult immediately wipes other team
Is Birdring sick
New Zen ult effect: When Zen ults, Jjonak wins. Even if he's not in your game.
Orb of harmony heals like trance
since when does zen's ult discords the enemy?
And trance kills the team
since never @idle beacon
Y
JJoNak is literally god
^
jjonak can literally suck my balls
Oof
No, you suck JJoNak's balls. After he throws them at your head in a volley.
cuz hes god
yea.. than non-hetero lookin uglo
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
ooo, just saw the Boston vs Houston score
😂
he mad cuz he aint got jjoneck's buff neck
how's Spitfire doing? missed most of it
@fading wasp jjonak would do nothing if i'd stood infront of him .. he'd shit his pants .. i ain't no shit thin nerd like you
I see the score is 3-0 but how's their performance been?
Londons been pretty shit
heh
nyxl simply ez
london have been trash in s3
Meko nearly really fucked that up
seems really weird how London have just gotten so much weaker all of a sudden
and btw .. boombox > jjonak
wish the bastion thing worked out better on nepal
its really weird
We need some sym
literally from top team to Shanghai level shitness
Same vivid
I don't think it's meta changes either
could have worked it was unlucky i think
nope
since it hasn't changed that much
RIP Closer
i hate roadhogs trying to get a hook without seeing any enemy
You know when sometimes you just have a week or two of just not doing as well?
I think London are there
though London have always struggled against Houston so I don't know s;
maybe. we will never know though since he switched after the first death though 😦
Yeah winston agreed
NY is just going through so far on junkertown
but dat 360 noscope hook
london still don't seem to learn since stage1
Noice
they have so much potential and still ain't usin it
maybe they haven't been scrimming in the break?
what is going on/????
victory
🚂
The spawncamping
tank are getting fuced
ez clap
london just not trying
You really dislike Roadhogs, don't you?
since eve, yes
oof
what queen?
Pirate ship is common on this map
we have seen this a lot
Oof the dirty scatter
😮
why do teams run it
i feel like it doesnt work that well
it is working lmao
A fair one
he's not a healer, he's a dps
mercy always pockets zen
WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING
I’d pocket JjoNak
JJoNak really should be spectated more.
yup
Agreed
lmao they are fucked
Perseneshabbamoyaaa
if the mercy didnt die they would have been fine
what's going on with the sound
audio anyone?
same
yeah
na production lol
shat the bed
No audio problems for me
chat's going F too
I had issues as well
think they goofed the audio for a sec there
It froze for like 4 seconds
Oh nvm audios going bad now
"technical difficulties"
Something in-game. Doesn't sound like a mixing issue.
man
Did he just say Tire had 50HP?
did he?
Yoo quick question my d00ds. Does Zens orb of discord only effect his damage to the enemy or is damage up 30% in general??
All sources
@fading wasp thankies
This is esports discussion btw
Yeah he did
the discorded person gets 30% extra damage from anything
Im asking cause im watching Jonak kick ass and im wondering if his orbs affect all damage :3 @fading wasp
so .. the queen
like literally why are you like this
when is she playable?

Profits tires man
lmao\

damn
0-4watch
Damn
a clean win
GGBOYZ
gg
NY wit da swee
damn, fkn rekt
nyxl best team no doubt confirmed
^

they're so consistent
It was already confirmed
extremely
Ez clap
sbb such a fuckin arrogant shitface
salt
i am honest. i really only like ark of nyxl
E z c l a p
jjonak is just insane
I don't dislike any players just unit lost 
ark seems to be a nice fellah
edgy
yes
Fined and banned
He is freaking out internally
gotta be jjonak
he doesn't have the freedom that puckett does clearly lol
who sweared?
D:
$10,000 donation to The no swearing Foundation
reinforce said fucking maverick
Reinforce I think his name is
jesus
see .. jjonak would suck alone
What did he say
"pissed monkey" or something like that
pissed cannot be counted as a swear word pls xD
and reinforce said "fucking maverick"
Say that all the time
they will both be fined
rip reinforce
i think during the stage 2 playoffs puckett said "shit just got real" when philly defeated london
yeah but he apologised before he even said it
yeah that's true
this seemed like a big Freudian slip
yeah....
houston playin twice? OO
Fuckit said feels bad man that's a fine also
it's fucc-it
woo i got him clipped too
not fuckit .. lioran
I like Puckett's shirt
nah, friday then saturday
I love how Sideshow smiles so much when he swears
srsly
The thousand bits fine
i can't find the chart they just showed
oh sorry, it's actually thursday and friday
@willow basalt where are you lookin at?
not mitch lol
i got it wrong a bit because timezones
puckett
am only i seeing the AMA ark stuff?
Thank you OverWatch league for the memes ...amen
i really like this fellah
Cos of the all-access pass preview thing
All access pass is free for now
ark is such a nice guy
especially when you compare him to jjonak who comes off as an evil genius
well we ain't gettin the skins, farfarfo
@willow basalt exactly .. fuck jjonak .. lil shitface .. my fist > his face ... but ark .. he'd be my buddy 😄
this AMA with Ark just cured my depression
You guys realize that they were asking for a million dollar donation for f****** skin
Ended the week with a bomb, and I'm not talking about the 4-0 sweep! My apologies! #OWL2018
Shake Shack
Thought he said Shrek Shack for a moment though
Which would be even better
whats shake shack ?
A chain of restaurants in the Northeast US
what do they sell?
Burgers, shakes, etc.
eu
ah
where the most american army was stationed
Dunno any comparisons there
huh. There is a shake shack an hour away from me. Never been there
Shake Shack is so fucking good
@fading wasp you dont know where the us army has been stationed alot? 😃
Hm?
can't relate, lines in Philly are pretty good
What does the military have to do with hamburgers?
no .. you were askin where i am from
y'all know who else speaks English well? Gesture
in-n-out is 1 hr 40 mis away
Fissure speaking English is really funny
he's not old enough legally
haha i like that skinny guy
yeah he's 20 i think
he's a sweetie
what age is allowed for boozage? Oo
21
fuck the us
yeah it sucks
@torpid charm https://youtu.be/te2b9DykRv8
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Don't you be bashing the US >:/
@warped axle thank you for blessing me with that vid
@solar trout dude ... the us voting trump as president .. come on .. are you being serious to me?
I voted for him, so yeah
oop
you're dumb .. and blocked
lul
LMAO
true
and you can drink at home if you're 5+ iirc
you're allowed to booze here with 18 .. and go to clubs with 16 .. with parental proof
5+ ? 5+ people?
5+ age
bullshit
ok nvm topic change
boston playin vs nyxl next week
i hope boston is doin their homework very damn well until then
same
maybe go for map 5
yup
At this point, you've got to question if London are even the second best team in the league. Philadelphia and Boston are both above them in my eyes right now, big lack of structure.
there's still dumbasty
Sideshow shows his loyalty to Philly because they let him stay in the treehouse
Philly bois best bois
ok .. see ya'll next week, fellahs
but fragi didnt let him use the bathroom 🤔
What happened in nyxl vs spitfire
How’d they 4-0? Lineup issues or was it just performance?
Performance I believe
1st map was close, but SBB got triple with pulse
Blizzard don't remember, believe it was one-sided
Nepal was pretty one-sided
yeah, it was very up and down for London. I didn't get to watch the whole match too closely
gr8
now nobody can stop NYXL
they finally figured out how to beat London
It's still just London and Fusion who have beaten them, isn't it?
yes, London and Philly are the only two teams that have taken them down in the regular season
for blizzard, it was a full hold from nyxl
so apparently Sombra is used more than Genji in Stage 3 OWL
according to Winston's lab
well yes because a hacked genji is only slightly more useful than a steaming pile of sht
with the Sombra changes and map pool, it's good to have her around
i enjoy playing sombra actually
wanted that talon skin too along with moira's blackwatch skin
'esports discusssion'
May not be able to farm ult charge from health packs any more but she's still hella useful
I love seeing a good Sombra in matches
i prefer the new sombra
didn't like the ult farm which seems broken in coordinated environment
and those other two
no
nope
Danteh best sombra in league ?
Zuppeh
Logix
Zebbosai
sayaplayer
Manneten
CWoosH
TviQ
1018 7 24 20
973 30 19 14
853 3 30 18
849 28 19 14
838 29 24 0
788 14 25 16
772 10 16 12
Poko
Boombox
neptuNo
snillo
Carpe
Fragi
1200 30 16 0
1194 21 23 19
1111 4 16 20
970 39 14 29
926 38 30 21
912 22 28 19
Poko/D.Va: 1200 Rating
Bani
Muma
LiNkzr
Boink
Rawkus
coolmatt
JAKE
880 1 17 12
837 19 25 16
751 27 48 20
736 0 14 6
722 12 34 16
719 26 31 0
583 24 43 20
NotE
Neko
DreamKazper
Striker
Gamsu
Kellex
1358 36 14 0
1234 23 21 20
1212 56 16 26
1204 59 18 27
1186 31 20 15
1070 6 20 14
Gamsu/Winston: 1400 Rating
NotE as D.Va on Numbani: 5 Kills
ryujehong
zunba
tobi
Wekeed
munchkin
Fleta
Miro
1261 29 30 31
1144 44 27 6
1109 6 24 24
1092 22 12 13
1063 21 11 19
966 48 28 28
959 27 31 22
Sleepy
sinatraa
Danteh
Moth
Nevix
super
babybay
1041 15 34 24
1035 35 20 27
900 28 30 32
882 4 34 21
776 40 35 5
661 11 44 20
630 5 15 7
Miro/Reinhardt: 1366 Rating
Wekeed as Junkrat on Junkertown: 4 Kills
4-0s happen more often than you'd think even between strong teams. If you've been figured out early on, it's hard to turn it around
Boston v Houston felt like it could have gone on for 10 maps more and Boston would have won them all, they were inside their heads
Even though they lost to outlaws every other time
JJoNak
ArK
Mano
MekO
Pine
Saebyeolbe
Libero
janus
1258 25 23 17
1251 1 12 19
1117 8 5 7
1086 27 15 2
973 11 8 4
958 31 16 22
925 40 16 14
751 11 11 9
Closer
HagoPeun
Gesture
Nus
Hooreg
Fury
Bdosin
Profit
Woohyal
Birdring
1241 0 10 22
1155 4 8 12
1024 16 28 33
1006 1 8 6
996 19 15 17
972 10 12 0
850 6 18 11
840 31 28 23
789 8 10 0
706 11 20 12
Closer/Mercy: 1334 Rating
Hooreg as Widowmaker on Junkertown: 5 Kills
Noah's biggest regret is actually something most of us should respect. Nobody can say his choices were easy by keeping the team as it was and playing it safe led to the problems on the surface didn't look like an issue before stage 2 dropped
Hey guys,
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What does the bot's "rating" thing show/take into account?
Not enough to actually be worth it.
It's another bad context thing, grain of salt the ratings on it most of the time.
Also in regards to the six hour Boston vs. Houston thing, Boston just played brilliantly and finally gave up their standard dive. It looks like Houston had prepared for Bostons dive and then when it wasn't run nearly at all faltered a bit. It was a high risk thing by Boston to change their styles for the maps, but it paid off huge.
what six hour thing?
that game felt long and sad
houston didn't really get to do anything
Philly vs Houston and Philly vs London are going to be pretty interesting this week
Philly is still missing EQO but Houston and London are both in slumps
I hope Snillo steps up
i hope sdb is in
Eqo has never played against Houston so I feel a fair amount of confidence in them for that game.
Boston just outplayed them, it was a purely mental game.
Boston played beautifully last night
Philly sports in a nutshell
We might not always win, but we sure do keep things fun to watch
Is it expected that brig will be used in pro play?
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Uhh so what do I put in for my team
Yo what is this shit I'm hearing about dreamkazper?
what do you mean
There are people accusing him for being a bad person
It's on the tmz subreddit
People are accusing him of sexual harassment
it's butthurt houston fans making up stuff seems like
houston players have already called them out on it
Wow
read the comments in the OWtmz thread, it's all there
Kk
YOOOO ALL THOSE SCREENSHOTS
mmm
So I searched the battle tags and it's the fakest shit ive seen
like bots or somth
None of the OverwatchTMZ content is remotely accurate, and here I was starting to think it was based off real sources just to make noise
It's tmz what do you expect
But the claims were real
Also just by looking at the kaizen battleid is enough proof that it was faked
Fanaticism is scary
^
tis wild
y e s
I'd say by season 3/end of season 2
season 1 is too early
it's where you see the problems and point them out
the later seasons is where you expect them to fix them
but we can't be a real league if we don't
honestly depening on how the kazper situation is handled it may be soon enough
its looking more legit but idk, even his gf is posting tweets about it
y i k e s
yea...
well that's fucked
its a pretty big yikes
guess mistakes is gonna see a lot more playtime... 
guess Danteh will make it to the US WC team
guess "stupid fuckin mistakes" has 2 meanings now for dreamkazper
I guess don't beat Houston is the real motto of the story.
Their mean girls club throws a mean punch.
Dream was threatening Jake's position as the face of western OW
The most juicy part of this was finding out there's basically a discord called Houston Whores.
rip SugarDaddyDream https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/4784/dreamkazper-accused-of-inappropriate-sexual-interaction-with-an-underage-owl-fan
It's a lot of stupid innuendo, most of which revolves a no context handjob thing basically. Cringey, and gross.
But its also a little grain of salt because the stuff that would be really damning isnt' able to be produced. Which makes it inherently just one person being really creepy.
But not necessarily wrong, just really fucking creepy.
either way, it does not look good for him or owl in general
Oh no, definitely not. Not defending him. Just saying people shouldn't grab the super huge pitchforks just yet.
too crazy
And perhaps I'm cynical in the current age but I'm always very hesitant when someone gets this much joy out of attacking the person they're accusing.
not sure either, I'm all for some juicy drama being leaked but I'm not all for this.
Working in a college it's a fine line - usually a victim isn't this invested in talking so much shit about their attacker.
time for Mistakes to step up, sad it had to be like this
Not that it inherently means her story is wrong, or that she should be ignored.
But it usually means there's a lot more to it.
there is
Because she's getting angsty af on her twitter and talking a ton of shit. Which means something happened to make her that mad.
this other girl in another Discord that I'm active in said that she's had first hand experience with this, didn't wanna ask more about it because it's a touchy subject
it's odd the way everything was put out there, no doubt, but either way this was something that needed to be brought into the light
those screenshots tho
how does a 22 year old think its a good idea to call himself daddy
yikes
I mean cringey af people say cringy af things. You can tell during his interviews that Kazper has awkard/no social skills.
The language he uses doesn't even surprise me.
I like how xQc keeps losing ground in the list of controversial OWL figures
He speaks like someone whos interactions with the other sex are 95% online.
yo Endoken, I peeped that too
lol
Yeah I'm not a fan of the bait and trap there - thats wanting the nail in the coffin.
Because she's accusing him of all this shit and still talking to him.
yeah
I just want to know what she's so vindictive about.
And his paragraph could be it.
They did some shit they shouldn't have.
And he reality checked.
And now she's going nuclear.
he's still massively at fault.
But it would explain how she's doing it.
However.
I found a true gem in the twitter posts
Birdring: A month ago, I lost my dear friend Rascal.
Rascal: Quit telling everyone I'm dead!
Birdring: Sometimes I can still hear his voice...
507
r.i.p. the Ark & DK friendship
is rascal alive though. He's M.I.A.
He went to Korea for a "wedding"
Certainly not because he hates being on Dallas.
And fled the country.
ohhh noooooo
I just hope it ends up all being true.
Because if it turns out it isn't.
It literally fucks over the next person it happens to really really hard.

idk man, its looking a bit too legit to be faked
yeah the video of her twitter convos looks pretty legit
Yeah thats why I'm hoping it is, as gross as that sounds.
is this not on /r/cow
probably not
between that, his supposed reply to her, and his gf's tweets it isnt looking too good
They tend to prune this shit crazy quick after the undead thing.
mods tend to delete drama until its verified
smh
