esports-discussion

[ruby pendant]

This is their A team

[warm quartz]

WEAAK

PUSSY HAND CHEER

WEAAAK

[paper crag]

huddling up like they were gonna do something 🔥

whooo RYUJEHOG

[ruby pendant]

They replace 1 player

[warm quartz]

TAKE MY ENERGY SEOUL

[paper crag]

is wekeed > munchkin?

i thought munchkin was the starter

[warm quartz]

IS THAT THE BEAN LEADING

[paper crag]

is wekeed gonna be tracer?

[grizzled trout]

They use weeked sometimes depending on what they tryna do

[paper crag]

isn't wekeed more of a junkrat guy

[grizzled trout]

Hes good at genji too I think

[warm quartz]

Sleepy is so cute, i love his hair

[paper crag]

lol sinatraa is like seoul spilling over to san francisco

he just had to sit in that seat closest to seoul huh

[warm quartz]

Im sorry what is that shirt

Its from the 1970s

[strong crescent]

Sinatraa just looks so huggable

[warm quartz]

So many players are so huggable

[paper crag]

why is everyone huggable to you

[warm quartz]

Sinatraa, sleepy, geguri, muma

[tawny sigil]

sinatraa look like a bully

[paper crag]

go give mr logix a hug

and good tracer aim will come to you

[warm quartz]

Sinatraa looks like peter parker's archnemesis

[strong crescent]

Hey I've only said like 2 players are huggable

[paper crag]

so far

[strong crescent]

So far

[paper crag]

how long until everyone has been covered

[warm quartz]

I give it an hour

[strong crescent]

When dallas fuel gets their shit together

[balmy wolf]

Sinatraa makes me want to slap him tbh

[strong crescent]

Until then I'm not hugging any of them

[warm quartz]

@strong crescent soooo never

[paper crag]

but effect needs that hug

or he'll never win

[strong crescent]

Effect I'll consider

But that's it

[paper crag]

he'll prob get his hugs from his gf tho

[balmy wolf]

Effect is married

well getting married

[paper crag]

nah it's just a couples ring

[warm quartz]

Promise ring not engagement

[paper crag]

nothing as serious as an engagement or wedding band

[brisk roost]

DANTEH

[tawny sigil]

TEAMMUUU KIRU

[warm quartz]

DANTEH

STOP

[paper crag]

DANTEH is anagram for N DEATH

[strong crescent]

Danteh!!!!

[brisk roost]

DANTEH AND HIS DIAMOND SWORD

AKA DRAGONBLADE

[paper crag]

as in, Seoul pushes in! N DEATH

[warm quartz]

Aka "fuck you"-Danteh

[strong crescent]

Sinatraa is at the same time that one annoying kid from my middle school and extremely hugfable

Huggable

And I'm super conflicted

[paper crag]

wouldn't it be hilarious if dragonblade damage charged ult gauge

lol

[strong crescent]

Yeah

[warm quartz]

He looks like that one guy from The maze runner. The eyebrows guy

[strong crescent]

TRUE

[warm quartz]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

Rest in peace lunatic hai

you will not be missed

[rain pewter]

seoul kinda reminds me of dallas at this point

just better

[warm quartz]

DANTEH

[brisk roost]

LETS GO SHOCK

[warm quartz]

That kill on tobi

[balmy wolf]

Nvm

[brisk roost]

CMON DANTEH

[strong crescent]

T-T-T-Team Kill

[paper crag]

CMON TEAM

[balmy wolf]

Seoul Fuel is my favorite team

[paper crag]

BEAT THE OTHER TEAM AND WIN

[grizzled trout]

Ppl are harsh on seoul

[paper crag]

YEAAAAAAHHHH

E-SPORTS

[balmy wolf]

I like seoul

but stupid coaches

[warm quartz]

Sportsball!

[raven badger]

Seoul never made stage playoffs

[strong crescent]

I mean excelsior is the one I root for because I live in NY

[paper crag]

dude nyxl coach is the best

[balmy wolf]

"Ryujehong did bad in a scrim let's make gido play owl"

[paper crag]

he always looks like he's so done with this shit

[balmy wolf]

wtf?

[strong crescent]

But shock is probably my favorite team

[grizzled trout]

I understand cause ppl overrated them

[balmy wolf]

Half of seoul's losses

are bc bad rosters

[warm quartz]

Can we watch danteh

[balmy wolf]

fuk danteh

[warm quartz]

Thanks spectators

[brisk roost]

YEAH SAY IT

MINECRAFT PRO

[warm quartz]

LOL

HE SAID IT

HE SAID THE MEME

[strong crescent]

Danteh with his sharpness 5 diamond sword

[paper crag]

i feel like seoul's reason for not making it into playoffs is the map score leaks

when they use their B squad against "weak" teams

[balmy wolf]

Seoul should have made 2 playoffs

[paper crag]

that, and never really beating spitfire and nyxl lol

[balmy wolf]

but they troll with B team

..

[strong crescent]

Tracer needs a nerd tbh

Nerf

Whatever

[balmy wolf]

same with symmetra

[paper crag]

yeah. i understand wanting to give experience to your B squad guys, but maybe mix in like 2 at a time

not an entire team

[balmy wolf]

Turn the B squad into a separate roster, have them scrim against other teams

[paper crag]

i mean, it's cool to have two squads with completely different styles or something

[balmy wolf]

so they have experience

[brisk roost]

CMON SHOCK

[paper crag]

but winning the matches with as many map wins should be the priority

[balmy wolf]

do whatlondon does

[paper crag]

yeah

it's kinda funny how many teams have 11 players this stage

[brisk roost]

NICE!!

[tawny sigil]

Fleta is Beta

[paper crag]

just 1 short from being able to scrim within the team

[strong crescent]

Welp this is a fairly easy win for shock

[limber pine]

jinx

[strong crescent]

When did moira come out?

I forgot

[paper crag]

seoul really loves that little mei boost orisa trick on anubis

[tawny sigil]

november?

[brisk roost]

I've never seen Danteh as Widow yet

So I gotta see this

Nvm

He plays Sombra lol

[strong crescent]

Danteh as sombra 🤔

[brisk roost]

Don't even think

He always play Sombra

[tawny sigil]

they're playing diamond cancer

[strong crescent]

I think that sinatraa should still be on tracer

[balmy wolf]

MINECRAFT PRO BOIS

[paper crag]

RJH Ana return when 😭

[balmy wolf]

They should add sombra to minecraft

to pay homage to danteh

[brisk roost]

Lmfao

[balmy wolf]

DANTEH TAKE MY DIAMONDS

[strong crescent]

Yeah we haven't seen really any ana recently

Which kinda sucks

[balmy wolf]

I feel like sfs might lose

[strong crescent]

Maybe

[balmy wolf]

this emp is

all they got

no shit

[strong crescent]

But they have blade

[balmy wolf]

jehong waiting for the emp

he's playing back

rjh is back bois

[strong crescent]

And sd

[brisk roost]

SHOCK I SWEAR IF YOU DONT GET THIS AFTER THAT GREAT HOLD

[strong crescent]

Wow

[paper crag]

aaaand now this is literally the only attack they got

[warm quartz]

Rip

[strong crescent]

SHOCK PLEASE

[paper crag]

unless insane overtime stall

[limber pine]

SFS throwing

[brisk roost]

CMON SHOCK

[balmy wolf]

DANTEH TAKE MY DIAMONDS

[brisk roost]

YEAH!

[tawny sigil]

damn... that was close

[balmy wolf]

finally

[paper crag]

i reeeeeeeeeally wish the interface showed who is hacked

[brisk roost]

LETS GO SHOCK

[paper crag]

with hack and EMP

[strong crescent]

Yeah first point in overtime

Nothing out of the ordinary

[paper crag]

wow i didn't realize how little seoul took of point B

[strong crescent]

They need to stop over-extendinf

[balmy wolf]

lez go SEOUL

[strong crescent]

If they want to win the set

[brisk roost]

CMON SHOCK

NOOOOOOOOOO

[balmy wolf]

CMON DYNASTY

[warm quartz]

FUCK

ME

[rain pewter]

god damn

junkrats

[balmy wolf]

Jake playing on wekeed's account

[strong crescent]

Whatever

[balmy wolf]

report

WEKEED BOIS

[brisk roost]

Nah that's not Wekeed

That was Jake

[strong crescent]

They have trance and sd for next fight

[balmy wolf]

it's jake

[brisk roost]

@balmy wolf No

[balmy wolf]

W LUL KEED

Seoul Outlaws Jake

[brisk roost]

Lol

[balmy wolf]

Jakeed

[raven badger]

dafuq

wekeed got his tire in like 30 seconds

[brisk roost]

LETS GO SEOUL FUEL

[strong crescent]

Oh my god if they lose this

[brisk roost]

SEOUL DRAGONS

[balmy wolf]

LEZ SEOUL SPITFIRE

[strong crescent]

I'll be super pissed

[balmy wolf]

oh wait that is 50% of spitfire

[strong crescent]

This is their last push

[paper crag]

Austin In-Laws Lake

[strong crescent]

LETS GO SHOCK

[paper crag]

playing garbage hamster

[balmy wolf]

Wtf is super doing

i watched him jump in alone like 4x now

[raven badger]

suiciding

[brisk roost]

AH

[rain pewter]

that riptire

[balmy wolf]

i thought super was a dva main the whole time

[rain pewter]

fuck

[balmy wolf]

didnt know he played winston

[strong crescent]

Yeah they were being too aggessive

[balmy wolf]

ggs shock

[brisk roost]

Eh

1-3

[grizzled trout]

Weeked ily

[brisk roost]

Watch

[strong crescent]

They didn't adapt to the junkrat

[tawny sigil]

MAP 5

[strong crescent]

And just let him get tires off

[grizzled trout]

Shock gets a map > YAYAYYYYA

Seoul > eh they will get beat still

[paper crag]

RJH STAHP

[grizzled trout]

:(

[strong crescent]

I still think 3-2

[paper crag]

wait wtf? why am i seeing ad?

[strong crescent]

Not sure what team

[paper crag]

lol hardcoded ad

[tawny sigil]

no idea why they chose that clip for that commercial... so random

[strong crescent]

Holy shit fleta

[grizzled trout]

We still can lose tho I've learn not to put all hope in my team, kinda sad

[strong crescent]

Tracer really needs a nerd

Nerf

[grizzled trout]

Fleta building his tracer up

[balmy wolf]

Yes she does need a nerd

[warm quartz]

Nooooo no she doesnt PPPPPFFFFFF

[paper crag]

twice, you've made that typo so far

[strong crescent]

9 KDA is insane

[balmy wolf]

Tracer's into nerds

[warm quartz]

SHE CLEARLY DOESNT NEED A NERF

[strong crescent]

Yeah i know vividhalf

[paper crag]

is there something subliminal going on?

[warm quartz]

ACCORDING TO BLIZZ

[strong crescent]

Mobile typing is hard

[paper crag]

dude Seoul Mercy looks like she's going to a funeral

[strong crescent]

True

[warm quartz]

"Heroes never die! My enemies do."

[paper crag]

Seoul Reaper skin best value

👌

[tawny sigil]

Brigitte is tracer's nerf according to blizzard

[warm quartz]

Brig is a fucking bandaid

[paper crag]

she has the personality of a bandaid too

[molten skiff]

i shouldnt ask this

[tawny sigil]

brigitte is an attempt at turning the game into rock paper siscor

[raven badger]

dudes... I can't kill brig with roadhog, well we can't kill each other....

[molten skiff]

but is seoul 0-2 now

[paper crag]

orange and black? is this a halloween matchup?

[strong crescent]

Yeah but we're gonna have to wait 2 months at least to see her in the league

[raven badger]

I hook and shoot her, it does like no damage for some reason

[paper crag]

after the LAV vs SHD christmas matchup?

[grizzled trout]

Is it bad that I don't like xepher and he's part of my team

[tawny sigil]

roadhog v brigitte, you're an idiot if you cant kill roadhog

[paper crag]

no xepher is a horrible human being

and should be off the team

[balmy wolf]

Xepher is a POS

[paper crag]

and off the scene

[balmy wolf]

kick him from OWL

[molten skiff]

good

[strong crescent]

Brigitte vs anything as a winning matchup

[molten skiff]

more people here now understand xepher is pos

[grizzled trout]

Ok thanks

[balmy wolf]

he's the bitch that got rekt by geguri isnt he

[paper crag]

he said he was going to leave the scene forever if geguri wasn't hacking

[balmy wolf]

and called her a hacker

[molten skiff]

is seoul playing today?

[paper crag]

then changed his IGN and came back

[grizzled trout]

He is also trash compared to zunba

[strong crescent]

Except for extreme sustain heroes/blast damage heroes

[paper crag]

yeah

[molten skiff]

how did they lose

[paper crag]

yo there are so many OWL pros who are like "i first played OW because my friend played it, and i was like hey that looks fun"

[strong crescent]

Over-aggressiveness and failure to adapt to junkrat

[paper crag]

and then they're in OWL while their friends are probably in gold or some shit

[strong crescent]

On shock's part

[paper crag]

like munchkin was known to be kind of an asshole

[balmy wolf]

welp gamesense is very important

some ppl just never reach high elo

[grizzled trout]

Munchkin kay

[paper crag]

but he cleaned up his act once he bcame a pro, and just being an asshole is different from being a POS like xepher

[lethal plank]

Munchkin caught cheating

[warm quartz]

Wut

[strong crescent]

They're really trying to push blizzworld on us

[paper crag]

was he?

[grizzled trout]

Oh no blizz

[zinc schooner]

Is it just me or is Semmler just plain annoying?

[paper crag]

i've never heard of him being caught cheating

[strong crescent]

In all 3 matches today

[balmy wolf]

fuck semmler

[paper crag]

semmler feels like he's trying too hard

[balmy wolf]

bring in erin to cast

[humble moth]

^

[strong crescent]

Blizzworld is such a boring map

[paper crag]

to be the cool guy

[balmy wolf]

the fuel vs. dallas

[zinc schooner]

Welp I'm not alone, thanks.

[warm quartz]

"ENJOY BLIZZWORLD"

[lethal plank]

Ti hate blizzworld

[paper crag]

blizz world should have stayed as an April Fools joke

[balmy wolf]

they should just play 4 games of blizzworld

[humble moth]

I like the first point

[balmy wolf]

for owl

[warm quartz]

No, blizzworld says "ENJOY IT"

[humble moth]

second point is gay

[paper crag]

second point as in the first section of payload segment?

or the entire payload segment

[zinc schooner]

Map looks like a 12 year old school girls notebook. bllech

[strong crescent]

Blizz world is the most boring new map and maybe just straight up the most boring map

Second maybe only to hanamura

[paper crag]

at least hanamura is pretty

[zinc schooner]

true

[strong crescent]

They're both pretty

[warm quartz]

Beautiful map,shit design

[paper crag]

eh blizz world still feels like an april fool's joke to me

[raven badger]

Moira's ult charge is broken

I mean I can even feel it when I play her

charges way too fast

[zinc schooner]

suppose it depend on how many tanks ur healing

same as old Ana

[warm quartz]

Old ana+moira

My god

Imagine that

[zinc schooner]

gawd that would be so opressive, esp with old nano.

[balmy wolf]

shock has 0 elims so far

wtf

[raven badger]

super's playing like shit

[warm quartz]

QUAD TANK FU KERS

[balmy wolf]

seoul has no deaths lul

[grizzled trout]

I barley played ow in the past info on old Anna pls

[warm quartz]

H U G E

[balmy wolf]

watch ryujehong videos for info on old ana

[grizzled trout]

Ok

[balmy wolf]

she a dps

[paper crag]

i'm gonna bitch about this every day:
why do we have a fly cam instead of a bird's eye view with the hero icons?

[balmy wolf]

because na productions lul

[warm quartz]

^

[paper crag]

the fly cam that's scared to get into the fights

[warm quartz]

Truth

[zinc schooner]

@grizzled trout old Ana Nade had larger AoE, her primary could easily 3 shot Pharah or flankers, Nano added a speed boost.

[paper crag]

see even now, the other side would have been a clearly better angle to view the fight from

[grizzled trout]

Oh shi

[paper crag]

wtf is this back and forth over the wall lol

[raven badger]

well her shots did 80 damage, they nerfed it to 60 then rebuffed to 70

[paper crag]

i think 70 is pretty fair

[warm quartz]

Old ana enabled triple tank

Moira enables triple tank

BOTH COMBINED

WOULD ENABLE QUAD TANK

[paper crag]

quad tank best strat

[grizzled trout]

Wow

No

Ur wrong

[paper crag]

in early 2017, i ran a 5 tank with lucio

steamrolled dorado with 0 death

was hilarious

[zinc schooner]

It was World Of Tanks for sure. A methodical slog to points and no one died.

[grizzled trout]

6 tank with moria anna

[zinc schooner]

lel

[grizzled trout]

Blizz allow 8v8

[paper crag]

but.... 8 tanks with moira ana

Blizz allow 10v10

[grizzled trout]

Actually nvm balance ur heros first

[raven badger]

there's not even 8 tanks in the game

[zinc schooner]

Mind you old Ana was also Old Hog and Old D.Va so it was pretty crazy.

[warm quartz]

Hold up

[grizzled trout]

Jk

[warm quartz]

Tobi tracer wtf

[paper crag]

i miss old dva

not the old old dva

[grizzled trout]

Woah tooi

[paper crag]

but the broken as fuck 4 second matrix dva

[zinc schooner]

Matrix forever D.va?

[grizzled trout]

tobi*

[warm quartz]

I still want an option in Custom Games to enable old mercy

For mercy paintball

[balmy wolf]

with valk?

[paper crag]

this one game, i literally ate every single mei ult that the enemy mei threw out

[warm quartz]

No with rez as ult

[balmy wolf]

ah

[paper crag]

and at the end of the game, he was like "is my game bugged? why is my ult not working"

[balmy wolf]

poor guy

[zinc schooner]

Ol DM was rage inducing. I played a lot of 76 then and wanted to gouge my eye out, lol

[paper crag]

yeah i told him i ate it all lol

[balmy wolf]

but he kinda deservers it for playing mei

[paper crag]

he was cool about it though

was like "touche. gj"

[warm quartz]

@paper crag om nom bitch.

[raven badger]

super dead again lmao

[jagged crater]

tobi curveball tracer, i love this

[tawny sigil]

rip shock

[zinc schooner]

Super dying almost as much as Fearless.

ok not THAT bad...

[balmy wolf]

goddamn
only 7 deaths total for seoul

[hidden vault]

Did seoul even sign kox????

[quasi stump]

nice emp

[paper crag]

no

no kox

[jagged crater]

emp wins fights so easily

it's a fight win button

[raven badger]

not at low ELO when no one follows up lol

[balmy wolf]

if you get the important people in it

[zinc schooner]

ya same as Grave or a good Tire I guess.

*grav

[paper crag]

ummm in gold, EMP is the "WHERE THE FUCK IS MY TEAM?" button

[zinc schooner]

lol

[paper crag]

Q, die, enter, "where the fuck is the team," enter

is the sombra combo

[warm quartz]

Cheap nachos

Yeee

[zinc schooner]

Luv does cheap nachos.

[paper crag]

you know what i hate? dying and trying to take a sip of water

and mercy rezzes me

[zinc schooner]

^

[paper crag]

when it's not even a good rez

[balmy wolf]

or trying to switch to a different hero

but mercy rezzes anyways

[paper crag]

it's especially bad in mystery heroes because mercy is such an asset

and you're wasting it on my trash genji

and possibly dying

[balmy wolf]

lol

[idle beacon]

haha

[raven badger]

I had a mystery hero game with 3 mercies, reinhardt, orisa, and bastion

[idle beacon]

how super is playin xD

[balmy wolf]

but at the same time, ive had mercys that never rez a single time in game

[paper crag]

seriously, multiple mercies with bastions is cancer

[zinc schooner]

God I want something in the Spec UI to show how many are EMPd or Grav'd, etc

[paper crag]

^

[balmy wolf]

shit that would be cool

[paper crag]

grav is at least kind of easy to see since you just look at the grav

but EMP?

please

[zinc schooner]

true dat

[paper crag]

i also want a top-down view with the hero icons

[balmy wolf]

yeah
the hacked symbol thing is hard to see when heros are just running around

[paper crag]

at all times

like a channel for it, or as a screen on command center

that fly cam is stupid

[balmy wolf]

yeah

not like i can focus on two screens at the same time

[paper crag]

the top down view would add so much to the command center

and ironically, the top down view is NEVER featured on command center

while it's shown on the regular feed

[zinc schooner]

Top down was the only reason I was slightly interested in the Twitch All-Access. but it's not even shown there apparently? WTF Blizz such a missed opportunity.

[paper crag]

yeah

[zinc schooner]

THey, like, never effing show it. Why?

[paper crag]

i wish command center was a group of multiple standalone channels for OWL

[zinc schooner]

^

[paper crag]

a dedicated channel for top down, dedicated channel for stats, etc

[zinc schooner]

yeah pls

[paper crag]

it's not like setting that up is hard at all

they already have all the different channels

[balmy wolf]

damn seoul not giving up

[tawny sigil]

dayum

[paper crag]

just make twitch channels for them

[idle beacon]

SF!!!!!!!!!

[zinc schooner]

IKR?

[balmy wolf]

SF can't win this map tho

[idle beacon]

FUCK YOU DUMBASTY!!!!!!!!!!

[balmy wolf]

draw at best

so

[tawny sigil]

no idea why this map is being finished so much, i guess it just prooves that teams have no idea what to do on this map

[paper crag]

if twitch made up the whole new "all access" shit, they could have made a new access to host the multiple channels idea

[grizzled trout]

I'm scared

[ruby pendant]

@tawny sigil The map needs a nerf

[balmy wolf]

but wont it be hard to switch between each channel

[paper crag]

eh not really

[tawny sigil]

the nerf they ahve for it will make it easier to complet

[grizzled trout]

Wait 1 tick?

[paper crag]

there are multiple twitch channel viewers online

a lot of people use multiple monitors

[grizzled trout]

Ok ok

[balmy wolf]

most have two
maybe three

[tawny sigil]

other hybrid maps RARELY make it past point 2. and this is happening everytime and the spawn point is straight on point 2

[paper crag]

yeah it's because SFS finished during OT i guess

i think two monitors is good enough to run like 3 channels

one for the main feed

another monitor half and half for the secondary channels

[tawny sigil]

wtf

[ruby pendant]

wow

They had it

really sucks

[paper crag]

what do you guys think would happen if a bug was found mid-match?

like a player got stuck and can't get out

[ruby pendant]

pause

[paper crag]

yeah but would they just restart the game somehow?

[ruby pendant]

Sometimes they would change the map

[paper crag]

how do they get the ult gauges back up to where they were

[ruby pendant]

at best

[balmy wolf]

they probably cant

[paper crag]

i wonder if they have a real-time backup or something

[balmy wolf]

they'll just have to restart the entire map

[ruby pendant]

Not that I've seen

[tawny sigil]

awww

so close

[idle beacon]

wow

[balmy wolf]

gg

[idle beacon]

more luck

dumbasty

[jagged crater]

LOL doomfist pinned twice

[balmy wolf]

is this the last match of the day

[grizzled trout]

Miro ily

[hidden vault]

No kox? Kox is fake news??

[ruby pendant]

@balmy wolf yea

[twin yacht]

Holy fuck

[balmy wolf]

o shit
i missed out on the other two

[twin yacht]

That may have been goty

[balmy wolf]

what was the final score for the first two match

[paper crag]

lol so it's pretty hilarious how Seoul will probably get to the Season 1 playoffs

and go as the division champ

[strong crescent]

What's the score now?

[paper crag]

because they're the only pacific division in current top 6

[strong crescent]

Had to tune out

[grizzled trout]

DumBaSty OmG I HaTe TheSe NiCe PlayeErs Seoul hater for no reason btw (all jokes don't hurt me)(pls)

[twin yacht]

2-0 seoul

[balmy wolf]

@grizzled trout kys

[grizzled kayak]

healing boost

[paper crag]

and unless LAV or LAG step up big time, seoul will be the only pacific in top 6

[balmy wolf]

jk

[twin yacht]

San Fran won every checkpoint in OT

[strong crescent]

Valiant is getting there

[grizzled trout]

It hurts @balmy wolf

[twin yacht]

And sinatraa nearly solo held Seoul on first point to force a draw

[balmy wolf]

@grizzled trout I'm sorry ily

[strong crescent]

Gonna have to hope for a reverse sweep from the Shock

[balmy wolf]

I don't think they can reverse sweep

[paper crag]

wow shanghai won 9 maps so far

[balmy wolf]

their tank play is pretty potato rn

not very likely

[paper crag]

that's more than i thought

[twin yacht]

Don't think they will, but this team is much improved

[grizzled trout]

Let's find out

[grizzled kayak]

seoul dynasty can sometimes destroy western teams

but then they get destroyed by the other koreans

[twin yacht]

If they played in a week or two it'd probably be a 4-0 for the shock

[balmy wolf]

Seoul started out as the best team in the league

[strong crescent]

Yeah like nyxl

[balmy wolf]

or london

(gc busan)

[paper crag]

seoul is probably the weakest all korean team

[strong crescent]

Destroying

[balmy wolf]

they were once the strongestt

[grizzled kayak]

gc busan had never won a map against lunatic hai

[balmy wolf]

nyxl and spitfire

[twin yacht]

SF might make the playoffs. It's gonna be close

[paper crag]

i feel like seoul started as the most hyped team in the league, rather than the best

[balmy wolf]

passed them

you got it the wrong way ninjaaaas

[strong crescent]

I said hope for a reverse sweep

[grizzled kayak]

what?

[balmy wolf]

gc busan never LOST a map to lunatic hai

probably because their a roster hasnt seen as much playtime?

[grizzled kayak]

WHAT

[strong crescent]

I know it's not likely

[grizzled kayak]

oh shit

[paper crag]

WHAT

YEAYA

[balmy wolf]

https://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/tournaments/15794-ogn-overwatch-apex-season-4/4668-group-stage-2/15800-group-b/matches/199520-gc-busan-vs-lunatic-hai

[grizzled trout]

Seoul can either win, lose against Koreans, or do the worst team swaps.

[balmy wolf]

Look at this

[paper crag]

is this 2006 all over again

[balmy wolf]

GC Busan win

they beat lunatic hai every time

[grizzled kayak]

oh damn

[balmy wolf]

even in OWL

[grizzled kayak]

so even in OWL

lmao

[balmy wolf]

never lost to seoul

[strong crescent]

Yeah if shock makes playoffs it's gonna be by a hair

[grizzled trout]

Yea gc busan is lh/sd's kryptonite

[paper crag]

lol that Lunatic Hai rollercoaster

while GC Busan is just going up steadily

[balmy wolf]

Lunatic Hai was the first team to be a superstar

but other teams catching up

[grizzled trout]

And nyxl just rolls fast as hell

Forever uphill speeding

[balmy wolf]

NYXL has almost no weakness

london is their biggest rival

[strong crescent]

I'm super dissapointed shock lost anubis

[grizzled trout]

Nyxl new old lunatic hai

[strong crescent]

Especially with how free it seemed

[balmy wolf]

London = Korean counter

[paper crag]

yeah i feel like nyxl is the closest to perfection at this moment

[balmy wolf]

but loses to western teams

it's funny

[paper crag]

the team doesn't feel like it's lacking in any specific position

[balmy wolf]

IF there is anything I would say is lacking from NY it's Meko

[paper crag]

i guess their tanks are the least flashy?

[balmy wolf]

but he's still so good

[paper crag]

yeah

not flashy != not good

it's just that sbb libero and jjonak are so flashy

[grizzled trout]

Is seoul best anything anymore

[paper crag]

not really

[balmy wolf]

Seoul was best tanks and supports

[paper crag]

imo

[strong crescent]

No

[balmy wolf]

but nyxl looks better at supp

now

[grizzled trout]

Yea

[paper crag]

i guess seoul does have a better tank lineup

but zunba is to off tanks and jjonak is to supports imo

it's cheating

[balmy wolf]

Seoul in LH days was carried by supports and tanks

and they had pretty bad dps

now that they have good dps

other tanks/supps got better

[zinc schooner]

yup

[strong crescent]

Basically

[paper crag]

can't wait til whoru is in fusion and goes against seoul lol

[grizzled trout]

So seoul is like the elderly

[zinc schooner]

THe LH Supports were the older players too, so they were trying to elevate the team as much as possible.

[balmy wolf]

The thing is whoro is on fusion university, not fusion

he's not actually on fusion

any team can sign him right now

[paper crag]

yeah but he's most likely to go to fusion, right?

[balmy wolf]

Depends

[grizzled trout]

He's too young

[strong crescent]

I'll be mightily dissapointed if shock doesn't take map 3

[grizzled trout]

Oh wait

[paper crag]

does fusion have literally no rights

[grizzled trout]

U right u right

[strong crescent]

And give themselves a chance

[balmy wolf]

unless they have some sort of contract with him to not join another team

[paper crag]

like can whoru just be like "yo i'm going to Dallas. peace out"

[balmy wolf]

then no, they have no rights

[grizzled trout]

Whoru come back to lh pls

[balmy wolf]

yes

any team can offer him a contract

that's how the academy teams work right now

[paper crag]

i feel like they would have their own contract though

outside of OWL or something

[balmy wolf]

It's possible

[grizzled trout]

What is his pool again?

[balmy wolf]

Genji.

[paper crag]

uhhhh

genji

[balmy wolf]

Umm...Genji.

Some...Genji

[grizzled trout]

Ik genji

[balmy wolf]

He was agenji one trick

for lunatic hai

he plays some tracer now

[grizzled trout]

Yeah

[paper crag]

but that was good enough to get the team to win apex

[grizzled trout]

I was seeing if he added anything

[balmy wolf]

but he won't be good enough at tracer in time

Fusion has snillo and carpe already

[grizzled trout]

Oh wait is the match back?

[balmy wolf]

so idk if they want whoru

[grizzled trout]

Lemme see

[paper crag]

i'd assume OWL teams have some kinds of clauses that would earn themselves some money when their academy players sign other organizations

[tawny sigil]

all money twitch pass

[balmy wolf]

Some teams that were going to join OWL can't anymore

[paper crag]

i honestly can't imagine teams just supporting those players on the academy teams all that much

[balmy wolf]

bc of the price hikes

toronto esports is one of them

[paper crag]

and then being like "k have a good life byee"

[balmy wolf]

can't get 40 million to join OWL

:(

[paper crag]

orgs should merge

toronto and vancouver merge

to make Canada Esports

Florida did it with Orlando and Miami

still triggers me to this day that Mayhem uses a whole state

[grizzled trout]

I was supposed to stop watching owl after that valaint sweep. But I can't help but watch owl.

[balmy wolf]

owl is so fun

[grizzled trout]

I can't english

[paper crag]

you good englando

worry dont

[grizzled trout]

True u

[paper crag]

yes

[balmy wolf]

Your French is good enough

don't worry

lol sinatraa

[paper crag]

i need to incorporate melees into my habit

that would secure me so many more kills

[balmy wolf]

Melee every time you recall as tracer

the animation cancels

adds 0 time

[paper crag]

am i meleeing before recall, or right after?

[balmy wolf]

Almost same time

the melee first

then recall

[paper crag]

interesting

[balmy wolf]

the melee will do 30 dmg during the recall

watch sbb

he does it every recall

[paper crag]

i was gonna watch if munchkin did it

but i dont think he did

[balmy wolf]

blink into enemy with melee then recall

[paper crag]

okkay

[balmy wolf]

Munchkin just did it

[paper crag]

oh he did?

[balmy wolf]

in the last like 10 secs

watch clip

on the winston

[zinc schooner]

WTF FLeta never dies

[balmy wolf]

its an animation cancel

so its rly fast

hard to see

[paper crag]

what's that arm crossing with fingers up

gesture

is that like the new dab

kids these days

i'll never understand them

[balmy wolf]

lol

[grizzled trout]

I just got back on and saw fleta raising hell

[balmy wolf]

Somehow Seoul won that

fleta popping off

[zinc schooner]

Fleta was immortal.

[strong crescent]

Welp sad to say but shock has lost this set

[paper crag]

if you could be the second best player in OWL on a single hero, what would it be?

[grizzled trout]

Torb

[strong crescent]

Zen

[zinc schooner]

Brigitte /s

[strong crescent]

Or ana I guess because that would make me the best

Or sym

[balmy wolf]

tracer

[paper crag]

if you're second best in symm, that would mean someone else would be playing symm

[strong crescent]

Although unironically zen

[balmy wolf]

i'd be houston's tracer

[paper crag]

wouldn't you play symm so there are two symm players in OWL?

[zinc schooner]

In this meta? I'd like to be the second best player running Rein... 😄

[paper crag]

but yeah, seriously, i'd go zen or dva

[grizzled trout]

fr tho umm....

[paper crag]

tracer is good too but idk. it's such a boring answer

not that dva is any more exciting lol

ouch nevix

[zinc schooner]

DAT BOMB

[strong crescent]

Shock reverse sweep time

[balmy wolf]

LET'S GO DALLAS

[zinc schooner]

[paper crag]

lul quad tank

zarya neglected even on quad tank

😦

so much ult charge from those big bodies lol

[tawny sigil]

well they lost this one cause they have no widow

[grizzled trout]

im shakin

[zinc schooner]

I like the try tho

Super getting bullied

OH

[balmy wolf]

gg

[strong crescent]

Have the shock finally stopped being bad

[balmy wolf]

did he just miss a jump..

he didnt get booped did he...

[strong crescent]

I'll take that as a no

[balmy wolf]

super played so poorly tbh

[strong crescent]

Welp gg dynasty

[grizzled trout]

Yay

[ruby pendant]

lol

[strong crescent]

Yeah super was booty

[zinc schooner]

yup ggs sleepy get some sleep bro

[ruby pendant]

Where is the Dynasty suck comments?

[grizzled trout]

Ok get that last map

[ruby pendant]

A team!

hahaha

[grizzled trout]

Dynasty is known for needing maps at the end of stages

[strong crescent]

Hopefully shock at least takes a map

[balmy wolf]

Sinatraa gonna rage

[strong crescent]

[grizzled trout]

@ruby pendant yeah it's usually a flood I think they are sleep

[strong crescent]

Super going 15 and 13

[ruby pendant]

@grizzled trout Must be crying themselves to bed.

[strong crescent]

That sucks

[ruby pendant]

Feels good!

[balmy wolf]

I could've sworn super was an offtank main

[grizzled trout]

I agree of the super comment shock could of won at times but super...

[strong crescent]

Super with 13 deaths

That sucks

[grizzled trout]

That widow chase man

[strong crescent]

Yeah like I said shock is too over-aggressive in general

[grizzled trout]

Is ur pfp a Celeste character I'm curious

[strong crescent]

Yes

[grizzled trout]

👍

[strong crescent]

[balmy wolf]

wait

[grizzled trout]

Let me get back on esports topic before I get banned

[balmy wolf]

i thought architect would play

[grizzled trout]

No junkertown :(

I'm having flashbacks of stage 1

[rapid bobcat]

Omeigalul

[strong crescent]

Shock getting demolished

[balmy wolf]

RyuMeihong

[rapid bobcat]

Seoul has 1 healer

This is just so sad

How did the Valiants win 4-0

[grizzled trout]

Shock tilted

[rapid bobcat]

If I see this I haven't got a clue

[balmy wolf]

valiant is better than shock

seoul is still top 3

[rapid bobcat]

But not BETTER to beat seoul with 4-0?!

I guess they were

[balmy wolf]

valiant always does good vs seoul

[grizzled trout]

They only did bad last stage

[balmy wolf]

seoul is also using their a team right now

[rapid bobcat]

3:41 jesus fuck

[grizzled trout]

We are 2-1 with them

[strong crescent]

This is just sad to watch

[rapid bobcat]

Did shock even contest it

[balmy wolf]

no

[strong crescent]

They're not even trying

[grizzled trout]

Danteh :(

[strong crescent]

[rapid bobcat]

Also, when the overwatch league starts at 1 am for you, you can watch the final 2 maps after waking up for work

But man

Shock is dead today

[strong crescent]

Wait what

[grizzled trout]

Ha

[strong crescent]

Where the fuck do you live

[balmy wolf]

I mean shock lost to mayhem

[strong crescent]

Also super is dead right now

[rapid bobcat]

So did valiants

Wait did they

Yes they did

I was thinking about gladiators

Valiants also lost to mayhem

[strong crescent]

Oh yeah me too

[balmy wolf]

shock beat glads but

idk

super playing like shit

and seoul using their a team

[strong crescent]

Yeah super is just beat from his debut probably

[rapid bobcat]

Mayhem will beat some phillies up tonight I just hope

[balmy wolf]

they used b team vs valian

t

[rapid bobcat]

Fleta.

But I have to go to work byebye

[grizzled trout]

I don't wanna deal with my friend rubbing the Val loss in mah face at school

[strong crescent]

Babybay getting revenge

[grizzled trout]

Tire destorys hurt

[strong crescent]

Both teams are doing well on pushing

[balmy wolf]

fingers crossed gets this map

[strong crescent]

Yeah

[balmy wolf]

oh the OWL Widow skin has been unlocked

[strong crescent]

To who

[grizzled trout]

Everyone's laughing

That's makes me happy

[balmy wolf]

everyone who has cheered 200 bits and has the all access pass

[strong crescent]

So not me

Because I'm broke

[balmy wolf]

🙁

[strong crescent]

Well not broke

Just don't want to spend more money on overwatch

[balmy wolf]

I hear that

[grizzled trout]

Shock about to full hold the pay load rip

[strong crescent]

Shock has to hold for 4+ minutes

Not gonna happen

[grizzled trout]

I jk

[summer hill]

what you guys think on the matches tmr

[strong crescent]

What are they

Remind me

Please

[summer hill]

Mayhem vs Fusion, Outlaw vs Uprising, Excelsior vs Spitfire

[strong crescent]

Fusion, Outlaw, either

[balmy wolf]

Im going Fusion, Outlaws, NYXL

[strong crescent]

Although leaning on NYXL

[summer hill]

NY been too good

lately

[strong crescent]

Yeah they're on point

[balmy wolf]

My team is so I always go for them

[grizzled trout]

GeeGee Shock

[balmy wolf]

good try

[pearl stratus]

Philly won't have Eqo.

I think Florida has a decent shot, maybe 30-40% chance to win.

[strong crescent]

Yeah I always have to go with them because i live in ny

RIP Shock 0-4'd

[grizzled trout]

God damn ow fix these times

[pearl stratus]

What times?

[grizzled trout]

I'm sleepy AF now

[pearl stratus]

For the games? They're in LA. They're going to play based on LA times.

[grizzled trout]

Yeah ik the reasoning

I'm just bitching don't mind me

[strong crescent]

What about the other 2 matches endoken

Predictions?

[pearl stratus]

Houston, but hard fought. 3-2 maybe.

Then NYXL.

Linkzr plays more of the direct counters to Dreamkazper, which is huge.

And he's a better Widow than Dreamkazper most days, which takes away Kazpers biggest weapon.

[strong crescent]

You'd think the matches would start at like 1 pm PST though

[pearl stratus]

Then you lose your PST audience.

Because they're working/at school.

[strong crescent]

True

[pearl stratus]

You're better off missing a few people off your last match but getting bigger numbers on #1 and #2.

Also if people pass out in Match #3 they don't care, you're still streaming it live 😛

You're just knocked tf out

I think Jake will actually be impactful in this game too, which will be nice.

[strong crescent]

Although that begs the question "why not just prerecord all this"

[pearl stratus]

People know, and its pretty disliked.

Also the people who watch it could spoil it real fast.

You'd lose out on being able to have an audience.

[strong crescent]

Fair enough

I just don't want to feel the need to stay up till 1 in the morning just to get my OWL fix

[pearl stratus]

I think as it makes it into later seasons we'll start seeing different times, especially as they start explaining their want for global presence.

Yeah but you could always watch the vod tomorrow 😛 You just don't want the score spoiled.

[strong crescent]

Yeah true

Plus my sleep schedule could use a little un-fucking before school starts up again

[pearl stratus]

Just be one of the sleep elite.

It makes my life so much easier.

[strong crescent]

I just can't though

[pearl stratus]

It's genetic, oddly enough.

They did a bunch of tests on it, some people just don't need much sleep.

I typically only need 4ish hours of sleep a night to be fine.

More than 7 and I feel groggy.

[balmy wolf]

sleep havent had a good sleep in years

[pearl stratus]

Did you ruin your life?

I mean.

Do you have kids?

[balmy wolf]

LOL

[strong crescent]

Usually i can barely function on just about any amount of sleep

But in order to be an actual human being I need like 6 hours

[pearl stratus]

Oh no Drag. I mean that I function really well on four hours. 4-5 hours is like my ideal amount of sleep

[strong crescent]

Although my body tends to want more sleep no matter what I do

Maybe I'm just a lazy fuck

Who knows

[pearl stratus]

Everyone likes Kings Row Nomy, weak answer.

They could put Kings Row in every stage and I'd be happy

[strong crescent]

Anyway back on esports topics

There hasn't been much eichenwalde as of late I've noticed

[pearl stratus]

Houston. Amazing.

https://outlawsgear.gg/

They made the Arhan/Jake LUL t-shirt

And put it up for sale.

[strong crescent]

Or watchpoint

Strange

Thinking about it like half the maps have been getting shafted recently

And the other half are being played to death

[pearl stratus]

Gibraltar? That was in Stage 2, Eichenwalde was Stage 1 iirc.

[strong crescent]

Yeah but like stage 3 so far

I guess we'll see as the week goes on

[balmy wolf]

nomy ❤ hanzo

[hidden vault]

Why... is... Arhan.... in... Houston.....

Player Misfit!

[slim summit]

these questions are such a cop out

they do a user contest & approve questions

they need soe to ask hard questions

"you just got whooped by Seoul, whose fault is it?"

[grizzled trout]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ow_fleta/status/982486738802114562

[hidden vault]

LMAO they probably took it out

[grizzled trout]

If shanghai doesn't win this season I will.. Idk I'd just be sad

[hidden vault]

maybe if they have 2 more Korean supports

[balmy wolf]

take my energy ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

I really want them to win more

shanghai needs a break

[hidden vault]

Tbh I feel that SHD's supports aren't doing so well

but could be beacuse of communication

when you have both your 2 dps and tanks from korea

It feels like the supports are cut off

[slim summit]

nobody is doing well

and they lost their widow

they don't have players who are comfortable on necessary roles

[pearl stratus]

It's 100% communication, especially in a problematic meta.

[slim summit]

the house is on fire

[pearl stratus]

You have a front line that works best when its entirely Korean, your back line is entirely Chinese. The two language share almost nothing.

And right now you have a Sombra meta. The hero that probably needs the most communication to effectively counter.

I'm telling you I don't think we'll see a decent showing from Shanghai till Week 3 at the earlier.

Diya coming back will help, because he's a very good Tracer and Widow. And it will take pressure off of Damien to let him relax and get some confidence.

Its also, in my opinion, 100% of why they tried to field MG again tonight. So that the supports could have a tank they could communicate with.

[balmy ibex]

Tldr shanghai sucks

Cuz bad comms

[torpid charm]

tbh I thought Shock had a shot at winning tonight

[grizzled trout]

They did have a shot

[torpid charm]

a bigger shot

they didn't play bad, they did pretty well. I just didn't see it being a 4-0 but it be like that

[hidden vault]

4-0 close fights tbh

All of them

[onyx shore]

seoul just played better

i think they have found the formula for winning

"don't field the B team"

[slim summit]

Seoul's LEAKED strat for winning:

play shit-tier teams

[hidden vault]

Seoul should get a better B team

If not remove players and sub a few like NYXL

[vast idol]

for the win

[summer tangle]

dallas is shit

[vast idol]

unkoe + oge = win

[summer tangle]

no lol

theyre bad