So if you get London, Munich, Barcelona, etc etc.
#esports-discussion
pearl stratus
magic zinc
They already try to push London to be at EU times (sometimes)
limpid estuary
THen you can have Asia vs Asia in Asia at Asia times
fallow raven
The times will change I future
pearl stratus
You can do an entire Stage in the EU.
fallow raven
When there are more games
pearl stratus
If theres just one team the EU can eat shit and die.
Because they'll never matter.
fallow raven
More EU teams = EU focused broadcast in EU prime time
scarlet spear
whut
theres like no investment from german companies for this kind of stuff
schalke probably being the only one
fallow raven
That's what people say about Toronto
pearl stratus
T-Mobile usually does some weird as shit investments in these things.
magic zinc
In the Netherlands we have a legit FIFA league with every pro-team, its pretty nice
But I cant think of a Dutch company that'd buy into it
fallow raven
If season 1 is profitable (which it already is on track to be) then companies will conform and follow
pearl stratus
But regionally more EU areas need teams so that they can do an EU stage.
Which means viewers can have an entire stage at their proper view times.
magic zinc
I think EU orgs will only start buying in more when they're promised good view times
fallow raven
EU is happening for sure and so is Asia, I've heard people say there will be up to 12 new teams next year
pearl stratus
They won't get good view times if they're not in the org though.
fallow raven
Bruh u don't get it 150k viewers is 150k doesn't matter where they're from right now
Sponsors pay for viewers, not regional only viewers
You can build a local fan base over time and obviously view times will improve
Companies are smarter than that
magic zinc
I'd rally behind lets say a German team but not if their matches are at like 4am my time
fallow raven
R u not understanding
scarlet spear
not really, that depends on the company their assets and in what range they want to work
scarlet spear
that remains to be a wet dream for europeans
magic zinc
No assurances of that just yet
fallow raven
Lmao
scarlet spear
for now we're just shafted
limpid estuary
It is a reasonable idea that
fallow raven
I assure you
fallow raven
Insane logic
pearl stratus
They want it to be a travelling show.
magic zinc
They want to expand to stadiums all over the world in Season 2 but there is nothing in place yet officially
fallow raven
Can't be possible
pearl stratus
They're only staying in the US for the first season or two because logistically to do anything else would be just really stupid.
It's abundantly clear they're still scrambling at what they're doing, to compound being a globe travelling system at the start as well would just be a failure magnet.
summer tangle
overwatch esports is a mess tbh
limber pine
eh
fallow raven
It seems very out of reach to be regional
pearl stratus
For its what.. four months? OWL is doing pretty well so far.
magic zinc
I think if they'd really want to be global for Season 2 it would be announced by now(?)
fallow raven
It's doing very well
pearl stratus
IT was never season 2, btw.
fallow raven
It's rivaling NHL viewership numbers
pearl stratus
First two years was always US.
limber pine
They've still got things to work out, but to say it's a "mess" is a bit overdramatic
pearl stratus
Its why the initial contracts are 2 years.
scarlet spear
we dont even know when season 2 will start
magic zinc
Only talk we've heard about stadiums is Spitfire talking with Spurs about a partnership for their stadium
magic zinc
Really? I thought the contracts where just for 1 season
pearl stratus
They're two year contracts.
Flame mentioned it outright, so did Jake.
When they were talking about a players union.
No current players would be eligible for a union till 2020, basically.
magic zinc
Oof
fallow raven
The average NHL game in the US is approx. 250k viewers on television to put things into perspective..
pearl stratus
I think two seasons is enough to hammer out enough bugs to worry about international stuff as a primary focus.
Which is a logical timeline.
magic zinc
I think OWL is doing pretty well in that perspective
Its obviously not completely mainstream yet
pearl stratus
Realistically yeah, they're live viewer numbers are pretty solid on Twitch alone. Then bloated further by TV broadcasts.
magic zinc
Only way is up I reckon
pearl stratus
There's a few bars in my area that broadcast games pretty regularly.
Since MLG is on DirecTV.
fallow raven
That doesn't count the 15k in attendance but 100k is enough to attract large sponsorships
pearl stratus
And most bars have DirecTV.
fallow raven
Which is what matters
pearl stratus
Plus unique live viewers is also boosted by the vod views.
Which they still count unique viewers on.
Because of timezone stuff.
pearl stratus
So you may only get 100-150k live, then another few hundred thousand in just vod views.
Hell China alone is probably half a million vod views, easily.
scarlet spear
is china even getting OWL on twitch ?
fallow raven
Oh I see what you're saying
scarlet spear
their numbers on their streaming pages are really really skewed
magic zinc
I think they have their own service?
magic zinc
Yeah lol
scarlet spear
they said they had 100 million viewers for last worlds on LoL
pearl stratus
China has to watch from overwatchleague website.
I don't think they were willing to sell copyright to Chinese streaming sites right off the bat.
That'll probably change in S2.
Also Twitch has exclusivity
Which mucks it up a bit.
fallow raven
LoL had more people watching the finals than the MLB world series on average, so, it's safe to say esport viewership is more than sustainable .. Asia is just ahead of NA in terms of it being mainstream
fallow raven
NA is soon to follow
scarlet spear
100 million viewers
fallow raven
And we're already seeing that nowb
scarlet spear
the chinese streaming sites are known to be inflated
pearl stratus
Yeah, they do some weird shit.
But I don't forsee Blizzard turning down giving streaming rights to some of them for the right amount of money.
fallow raven
Investors are aware of that inflation though just as much as we are
They know how many of those are real views to advertise to
scarlet spear
i know, was just about those fucked up numbers they come up with
fallow raven
Yeah it is fucky
scarlet spear
i mean
worlds numbers woudl have almost 1/10th of china watching
league is popular sure, but thats just plain out a lie
fallow raven
Yep lol
fallow raven
Maybe they're trying to get the updated map in?
torpid charm
I hate Blizzard World
magic zinc
We can have Anubis, Blizzard World and Junkertown in the same set 
fallow raven
And I tell my team how OP it is
torpid charm
that 3rd point on Blizzard World is what really pisses me off
fallow raven
I like to think I am a blizzworld specialist
Everyone else hates it
So if you just pretend you love it
Easy wins
scarlet spear
i actually look forward to seeing blizzard world 
just because of the shit show its going to be
torpid charm
they should play Symm on that map
solid spear
Nah
pearl stratus
It's going to be interesting.
If you get Anubis, Blizzworld and Junkertown.
And you're playing Houston.
You've legitimately got to be worried.
scarlet spear
blizzworld remains to be seen imo, but anubis junkertown they could be strong again
pearl stratus
Blizzworld is a solid Junkrat map though, in almost all situations.
Which is more what I'm inferring.
Stage 3 has a LOT of good Junkrat maps.
scarlet spear
tfw EU so it doesnt even matter for me
pearl stratus
But thats actually really nice.
scarlet spear
pearl stratus
This is the big one, imo
Exclusive Command Center Livestream(Free until May)
Overhead Map
Alternate camera angles
Live stats
Facecams
pearl stratus
I might grab it for $20.
scarlet spear
you can just watch mickies beautiful face the whole game KappaPride
its only 20$ if you have twitch prime tho
but who doesnt nowadays
pearl stratus
Yeah $30 without
scarlet spear
also apparently says its valid till the start of next season worded with "Until the 2019 season" so i guess season 2 will probably have the same timings as season 1
pearl stratus
Nanzer mentioned S2 would start first quarter of 2019
So it'll be similar, pretty much
scarlet spear
hmm only 19€ after VAT
pearl stratus
My big question is if its going to stay at this price for next season, or increase
scarlet spear
pretty good tbh
pearl stratus
I could see it increasing because we're only getting half of Season 1 realistically.
scarlet spear
probably depends on the feedback they get from it
time to check out the command center shit later tonight
thats so cool tho
i wish they would include the option to watch certain players
pearl stratus
I think it was something they said they were still working on.
scarlet spear
gonna be interesting watch tonigh
pearl stratus
lmao so many people "THIS SHOULD ALL BE FREE"
Fucking poor people, ruin everything.
pearl stratus
I'm interested in the alternate camera angles though definitely. I wonder if its more just the spectator cams or what.
But hey, that parts free till May.
The Match Analysis could be really cool too depending on who does it.
scarlet spear
people already begging for the access in chat
hidden vault
I wish you could see the perspective of all cameras
limber pine
pearl stratus
I want to punch Soon in the face now.
For spelling it boyz.
Apparently France is stuck in 1998 with dial up AOL internet.
torpid charm
ugly ass green and yellow
scarlet spear
who could the 4th support be tho
pearl stratus
KSF is the first american player actually picked up during this, right?
Oh wait no.
FCTFCTN
limber pine
ends in AKI i think
pearl stratus
Still, nice to see a non-Korean picked up lol
pearl stratus
Could be ARI too
limber pine
looks more K-ish to me
limber pine
unless it's a giant jebait
pearl stratus
Well it doesn't fit anyone in KR or US.
pearl stratus
Last letter could also be a Y, just realized.
pearl stratus
There's also a white spot underneath the 3rd ?
Indicating more than four letters.
C'mon gumshoe.
scarlet spear
nah tracer pharah
hidden vault
when is the signing cut off date?
pearl stratus
She's a coach so no 😛
pearl stratus
Formerly known as though. Why put the old name.
limber pine
¯_(ツ)_/¯
scarlet spear
would make sense then
limber pine
maybe LAV is using the name to jebait us
scarlet spear
maybe he renamed
and didnt like the new name
so he went back ?
or its just a jebait
pearl stratus
I think personally they're still a little too stuck in the second team mindset.
I don't think having 4:4:4 on a roster is necessarily ideal.
Best for internal scrimming though.
So hard call.
scarlet spear
pls no rascal, dont make aKm play genji again
cocco on tankrole and seagull back on genji would be a wet dream for tonight, but i'm guessing i will be disappointed
scarlet spear
mickie MT seagull OT and let cocco whip out his genji
i'm fine with that
yeah same
also KSF is actually getting paid now 
pearl stratus
Rascal just doesn't come back.
"Fuck Fuel, fuck their lazy culture. I'm living in Korea now."
Effect moves back to Korea. Lives with Rascal. Cosplays with his girlfriend.
torpid charm
aKm = best Genji
vestal mortar
balmy wolf
multipass lol
dusk garden
its free until may 15th
boi
its gonna be meme-y af until its only available to paid members
pearl stratus
The command center is free until the 15th.
Not the other stuff.
The peasants chat will be the only meme place.
Twitch Section 8 Chat.
limber pine
it's an ARG
pearl stratus
As long as I don't have to integrate with the peasants its okay that those things are free.
dusk garden
oh god not another ARG
pearl stratus
Was Taimou ever really in?
magic zinc
Fucking love stats
dusk garden
As long as it's still 30 bucks next season I'll pay for it
magic zinc
Can't wait for completely pointless sheit stats
pearl stratus
It'll probably be higher next season.
dusk garden
fuck
pearl stratus
Best to prep for that.
You're only buying half a season right now
Is the best way to think about it.
I doubt it'll go up much though.
magic zinc
"xQc still has the more map wins than Coco despite not having played since Stage 2"
That'd be a proper stat
dusk garden
I'm not buying if its more than 50 bucks
pearl stratus
It might not go up at all, just my conjecture on how businesses tend to run.
solar trout
The command center, spray, and skins are cool, but the price is kinda dumb due to it only being for half a season. If this is the discounted price then I really have an issue with it
limber pine
maybe 30 is the discounted price
dusk garden
i hope not
limber pine
2 + 2 = 4
pearl stratus
Even if it bumps up to 50 thats still decent enough compared to most sports packages.
dusk garden
^
pearl stratus
And by giving away the command center for free till May, you're fucked if you don't get it.
dusk garden
for example the NHL one is 300 per season lol
pearl stratus
Because you'll get so used to the rest of this season with it.
solar trout
I'd love access to the live stats and player POVs, but $30 is a high price for it. I certainly wouldn't buy it if it was even higher
pearl stratus
That when you lose it, you'll be broken.
Once command center is gone for free you'll have that view
Then you'll have like.
Welfare Watch.
Without it.
dusk garden
Man, people these days expect everything to be $5 or less
solar trout
This is why I've never been a sports fan lol
pearl stratus
It's why them giving it away for free is super smart.
dusk garden
Yeah
pearl stratus
Because you're creating your clientele for free, then basically saying "You don't need this. But now live without it."
dusk garden
basically
pearl stratus
Plus even if its 50, it'd be 40 with Prime, assuming they do the $10 discount still.
But its all conjecture till Season 2.
So who cares!
solar trout
But also free until may 15th is also through all of stage 3
dusk garden
As long as its not 300$ like all the other sports packages next season I might buy it
solar trout
So for $30 you are only getting it for stage 4, playoffs, and all star weekend
pearl stratus
Depends how good it is, honestly.
Having the top down views and PoV is pretty huge to a viewer experience.
solar trout
Ikr
dusk garden
yeah
pearl stratus
And $20 (since Twitch) is really a matter of breakdown.
pearl stratus
So I mean break it down like this:
dusk garden
when i first read the article
pearl stratus
How many of the games do you watch? I watch all of them, personally. Or at least have them playing.
dusk garden
all
solar trout
I watch most of them
dusk garden
except for the weeknight 11pm ones
pearl stratus
So Stage 4 - on rough estimate is 4 hours per night (roughly), 4 days a week.
So 16 hours per week, 5 weeks of the stage.
limber pine
6
pearl stratus
I'm doing low end, just in case of blow outs.
dusk garden
6 hours per day
pearl stratus
16x5 is 90 hours for Stage 4 alone, no play offs. If we bump it to 6 its 6x4, x5 weeks, 120 hours.
At 4 hours per night $20 is about what.. 40 cents per hour of entertainment price?
solar trout
Another question is tho, this package gives live stats...but what about stats that aren't live? If you don't pay how outdated will the website's stats be (Once they make them public)? A week? A month? A season? Never released publicly at all?
limber pine
@solar trout that's probably a "wait for tonight and see" thing
solar trout
I've been wanting the stats for weeks heh
pearl stratus
Actually I'm shit at math.
At 90 hours you're looking at the All Access Pass costing you .22$/hr. (.33$/hour without Prime)
At 120 hours (6 hours per night average) its .17$/hour (.25$/hour without Prime)
solar trout
So at this point I am not buying the pass until at least stage 4, and I may not repurchase for season 2 depending on the price.
I am most likely going to purchase it for this season though because I want the skins, spray, etc
pearl stratus
Yeah if you have Twitch prime it's $20, not $30.
dusk garden
man all the prime people get alot of free shit
balmy wolf
Yo ok this looks like a big sellout thing happen Bing
Since they realized that they aren't going to get 50mil bita
pearl stratus
Welcome to Amazon Prime 😛 There's a reason its in over 60% of Households even at the lower median income levels.
solar trout
I feel like using a family member's amazon prime for twitch benefits since they don't use twitch, but I may subscribe myself
I still haven't convinced myself I need twitch/amazon prime
pearl stratus
I'd definitely use someone elses Prime if they don't use twitch.
It's free.
Hell just sharing primes is free.
People tend to forget you can put like.. 4-5 unique Users on Amazon Prime.
With separate payment methods and shit
I have 3 coworkers on my Amazon Prime, lol
dusk garden
well shit
too bad i dont have coworkers and none of my family gives a shit about amazon
pearl stratus
Yeah once a year they throw me $20 when I have to repay it. It's just easier.
dusk garden
So this command center thing, is it on twitch or will it be on the website only?
dusk garden
I'm seeing a similarity between All-Access Pass and BlizzCon virtual ticket
apart from the all access is many months and blizzcon is a couple of days
limber pine
i don't buy the virtual ticket
granted, I've been to Blizzcon the past two years
but I wouldn't have bought it anyway
scarlet spear
virtual ticket is pretty useless if you dont want the goodies imo
dusk garden
oh and btw we dont have a all western team anymore
houston and florida both have korean players
tight vault
hey is the league on today
pallid cargo
if they play unkoe tonight they're gonna be playing themselves
effect is also really shaken
fallow raven
7pm est right
pallid cargo
I believe so
limber pine
yes
gusty cipher
at this point fuel vs dallas is a valid matchup
indigo barn
Always gotta love a good dallas vs fuel game
indigo barn
Kill me now
tight vault
we want jake on tracer
pearl stratus
Rascal is poisoning family members now
To keep him in Korea longer.
So he doesn't have to go back to Dallas.
indigo barn
Jakes tracer isn’t 100% trash anymore ok
tight vault
we want jake on bastion
pearl stratus
Stage 3 is also basically 80% Junkrat maps.
indigo barn
Oh right hell yeah
tight vault
what are stage 3 maps
indigo barn
Blizzard world baby
tight vault
indigo barn
Profits and Liberos junkrat s are better than Jakes tho
But it’s jake who gets the memez
pearl stratus
Yes and no. It's interesting.
In terms of just direct kills sometimes? Yeah.
But Jakes Junkrat is more disruptive.
pearl stratus
Well like his Tracer but played well.
Seoul talked about it back at the start of OWL.
He messes up with their flow of the game, because he covers so much space and separates the teams a lot.
indigo barn
So Jake is not the man to get the kills
pearl stratus
So for a mechanical team that plays really cohesively it fucks with them a bunch
I don't think he's ever been
indigo barn
Yeah no
pearl stratus
His job is more to destabilize the other team so Linkzr can get kills without pressure.
indigo barn
Jake plays his own version of dos
tight vault
when jake picks junkrat were fucked
indigo barn
When muma picks symmetra ur fucked
tight vault
has sym been played yet
indigo barn
Yes..... in spawn
tight vault
seoul dynasty to go only the best characters
indigo barn
The real question is, has TORB been played yet????
indigo barn
We’ve seen some doomfist from effect, fleta, and of course hydration
tight vault
every character but sym has been played
indigo barn
Because symmetra is too strong
tight vault
and bridgette
tight vault
bridgette in OWl 😛
indigo barn
Jake on Bridgette
balmy wolf
Doom fist can still body her in mayhem
tight vault
Jake on torb
indigo barn
Unless she body’s you first
scarlet spear
wait for North korean dominance to start
indigo barn
Dva only
tight vault
we need meh russian mates to coem in
dusk garden
how many people from the mythical land of canada?
tight vault
-1
indigo barn
*-2
tight vault
o
oak schooner
i think bischu was living in canada too not sure if he counts
tight vault
when do we get North Koreans in the OWL
scarlet spear
it seems weird to everyone, fuel players included
but we'll see if OGE can be their saviour to pick up coms like they said
maybe it'll work out then
tight vault
jake to go to shanghai dragons
scarlet spear
we'll see how he turns out, but yeah there were better names available when they signed him imo
maybe he was actually amazing in scrims
who knows
solar trout
Custa came across as kindof arrogant to me before, but he still also seemed to hold the team together. Fuel looked strong vs NYXL. I'd hate to see unkoe and oge mess it up.
ember jewel
There are at least 3 main tanks better than OGE on Contenders NA alone
solar trout
I wanna see more seagull/mickie
At least OGE won't able to play today
Wasn't it unkoe who just randomly started dominating with widow instead of playing support? Or was that the other LAV support?
limber pine
kariv
solar trout
Ah
pearl stratus
That was Kariv cause he was told to play DPS when they benched three dps.
limber pine
^
pearl stratus
Chips was basically left alone like a ginger kid.
Teen moms have more support than Chips ever got from his team.
solar trout
Chips has never stood out as an amazing zen tho, unlike shaz, bdosin, and most importantly jjonak
pearl stratus
I mean yeah but you just named three teams with an insane tank line.
solar trout
heh
pearl stratus
Almost as if the tank line can make space and protect supports. 😛
Also having Saebyolbe must be super comforting as a Zen, because that dude bounces all over the map to take people out.
solar trout
If you saw me here during the fuel vs nyxl game it was a rip chips every 30 seconds
pearl stratus
Rip really every Zen in the league against SBB.
scarlet spear
that too
pearl stratus
SBB's kill on Zen stats are always hilariously high.
scarlet spear
2hrs till OWL and cocco playing on the other team, guess no OWL for him again FeelsBadMan
other team on xQcs stream that is
solar trout
I'm bad enough in gold/plat, I just don't understand high level gameplay well enough. I enjoy watching it and every once in a while I can notice a mistake, but I have a lot to learn
molten skiff
@rapid grailEEEEEEE#2056 bischu has permanent residency in canada, but he's still korean citizen
limber pine
@oak schooner
solar trout
So quick question. The prize for first place in the playoffs is $1mil. Does that just get split evenly between the players? Does the coach get a bigger cut than the rest? Does it get shared depending on your role? Larger teams can get kinda screwed on the prize money it seems.
limber pine
he's offline
scarlet spear
pinging is iffy on big servers if they are offline
better to use developer mode and get the ID
limber pine
@solar trout I think half goes to the players and half goes to the org
but I'm not 100% certain
solar trout
. . . what
scarlet spear
at least 50% goes to the team
solar trout
So $500k goes right back into OWL
scarlet spear
thats the OWL ruling
solar trout
wtf
scarlet spear
the org decides what to do with the other 50%
molten skiff
org as in the league
solar trout
or by org do you mean team owner
molten skiff
or the team
scarlet spear
their organization then decides what to do with the other 50%
molten skiff
lol
scarlet spear
wether they give it all to players, split it with staff
who knows
keep it in their own pockets
molten skiff
they cant evenhire a first year rookie in MLB with 500k
solar trout
50% to players. Are coaches/managers players?
molten skiff
no they are front office
solar trout
Cool
molten skiff
what's this twitch all-access
molten skiff
is it basically OWL observers saying "fuck you, if you cant be THANKFUL for what we do, do it yourself"
scarlet spear
we'll see
pearl stratus
It's something that poor people will cry about, and most people will think is fine.
scarlet spear
if they have PoV tho 
solar trout
So $500k/~10 players is like $50k bonus per person, if split evenly.
pearl stratus
They do have PoV, they mentioned it in the official release.
scarlet spear
pearl stratus
@scarlet spear "To allow super fans to dive deeper into the league they love, the All-Access Pass grants access to the Overwatch League Command Center: a second-screen match-day livestream, featuring alternate in-game camera angles, backstage cameras, player POVs, and real-time stats. "
molten skiff
i dig the map thing and live stats
molten skiff
that's gonna help amateur VOD reviewers on twitch
pearl stratus
Literally just going to only watch SBB on NYXL when he's playing.
pearl stratus
Just to try and figure out how the fuck he tracers.
scarlet spear
JJonak pov is spicy aswell i imagine
solar trout
I wanna be a good zen
pearl stratus
Also lets be fair
Subscriber only twitch chat is huge.
Not that I even use Twitch chat.
pearl stratus
"Conversation with Unkoe - wanted to build back to a 12-man roster. Wanted to give Kariv starting time in flex support. Means Unkoe wouldn't have as much opportunity to play all the time - he asked to be traded so he would get more starting time, so we took the request seriously."
btw.
north tendon
like a real spectate
ok that makes sense
still a weird trade I feel
lets hope custa doesnt get summoned to in n out burgers lul
pearl stratus
Unkoe was probably getting the next summon there.
north tendon
😦
pearl stratus
Tl;dr of Valiants video:
We got rid of people who didn't fit the team culture we wanted anymore and were problematic and/or burnt out.
Unkoe being toxic af probably let them take that request super seriously and easy.
They even mentioned they tried to keep Unkoe and Soon together.
But no one wanted/needed both.
north tendon
strange, unkoe never striked me as toxic
north tendon
ah wow
well I used to watch streams
and he was pretty chill in VC or just laughing
guess theres more
pearl stratus
Solo chill is always a lot easier than team environments for a lot of people
scarlet spear
hmmm
pearl stratus
He does not do a good job in voicing his concern/crticism.
north tendon
lmao
scarlet spear
the only times i ever saw unkoe on comp games was when i watched sinatraa stack with him pre-OWL and he seemed pretty toxic to me personally
pearl stratus
Bad Baguette.
tawny sigil
french people are very opiniated
north tendon
I think EU people have short temper
but not like NA is heaven
just different toxicity
tawny sigil
NA is more about talking behind people"s back
north tendon
ahaha
scarlet spear
really depends on the countires tbh
imo in competitive games, eastern european or french people tended to be toxic as fuck usually
spanish decently toxic
british/skandinavian were pretty chill most times
north tendon
my loudest rager was definitely french
tawny sigil
can imagine it
north tendon
my last toxic brit guy was being snidely toxic
pearl stratus
I feel like a toxic french player is weird. Why are you that mad you're losing.
Your country has a meme of that happening for the last 300 years.
This isn't 1640's France anymore.
Chill out.
north tendon
yeah I just wonder how some people are raised
large lack of empathy too in this game
idle beacon
oh he wanted to leave?
limber pine
idle beacon
who is daemin ?
scarlet spear
is that KR contenders daemin?
limber pine
yes
idle beacon
SHD will freakin ROLL this stage
limber pine
he's on SFS's academy team
pearl stratus
I think they'll get a few wins, I don't think they'll roll.
10 days isn't enough for cohesion.
pearl stratus
I thought he was on LW way back in the day.
scarlet spear
could be a good pickup tho
2017-01-13 – 2017-04-07ROX Orcas
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2018-02-26 – PresentNRG Esports```Its a good pick up either way, they needed another dps spot
ember jewel
@idle beacon as Val is hiring a new Korean support, and Kariv will be on the starting line up, he would be on bench, so he asked to be traded to have more chances at a starting line up.
Daemin is quite good
More of a tank shredder than a crazy flank playstyle tho
pearl stratus
I mean Diya is coming back too though.
And Diya has that flank/widow play.
Especially without the need to protect Undead.
Overall should work out much better than them.
I remember Diya originally (before all the shit storms hit) giving Fleta a run for his money on Widow.
scarlet spear
really lookin forward to SHD nowadays
ember jewel
Diya is a very good player
Probably the second best Chinese player
But the best one is still sub 18, so we won't be seeing him in a while
pearl stratus
The Contenders CC team isn't even that bad.
Picking up the MY tanks made the roster a lot smoother.
ember jewel
If only the whole MY roster was of age
pearl stratus
I mean both tanks are.
ember jewel
Shanghai could be a competitive all chinese team
pearl stratus
But I'd still pick Geguri and Fearless over them at the current moment.
Since they've been off playing PubG for a few months and are probably out of shape.
ember jewel
But their synergy with Leave was the standing stone of MY
idle beacon
why did custa leave fuel ?
pearl stratus
Leave is still retired though, which is dumb.
He'd do well in OWL, if he can keep his mouth shut this time 😛
scarlet spear
because he wanted to
hazy arrow
Custa gone, Rascal isn't playing, Kiky still a coach, OGE banned, Unkoe with basically no time spent with team... this will be surely fun
idle beacon
why is rascal refusin?
limber pine
he's still in Korea
pearl stratus
He's not refusing, he's still in Korea with some family issues.
ember jewel
Rascal is in Korea
idle beacon
oh ok
pearl stratus
I'm pretty sure the issues are "This team is fucking shit and I don't want to go back or I'll kill myself"
But they're still family issues.
ember jewel
And the whole "Rascal refused to play" turned out to be just Kyky putting the blame on someone else for being a shitty coach
warm quartz
Oh shit shanghai is getting some decent players
pearl stratus
I mean he did refuse to play, but not quite like that.
It was more like "I haven't scrimmed at all because you told me not to, it would be bad for me to play."
warm quartz
Rascal did refuse but it wasnt how kyky implied
hazy arrow
So... tank duo Mickie-Seagull probably
pearl stratus
Both Koreans have basically gone so far as to say Dallas is lazy af though.
hazy arrow
I mean, Cocco is in jail and OGE cant play
pearl stratus
So hey.
hazy arrow
And Taimou is DPS again
warm quartz
OH SHIT GEGURI MIGHT BE PLAYING TODAY
pearl stratus
I'm pretty sure the starting roster is going to be:
Fearless, Geguri, Ado, Yushu/MG, Sky, Altering/Fivekings.
warm quartz
I just want to see her play for once
pearl stratus
Yushu for Projectile, MG for Tracer and shit.
warm quartz
And i get to root her on
brisk roost
Same yo!!
warm quartz
FIRST WON GAME MAYBE?
pearl stratus
My favorite is all these people thinking she'll play Zarya.
warm quartz
They’re vs fuel
brisk roost
First SHD W
hazy arrow
I wish Seagull could clone himself so he could play both tank and DPS
brisk roost
Yes
ember jewel
Is Diya back?
ember jewel
sad
warm quartz
If shanghai wins everyone will cry
brisk roost
It's a tears of joy man
warm quartz
GEGURI CARRY will be a meme
pearl stratus
It's more pressure for them though.
brisk roost
I want Uber and Mr X to commentate this shit
pearl stratus
Because if they lose to the shitshow of Fuel as it is right now?
brisk roost
They both gonna lose it
pearl stratus
That's basically saying they'll never win.
warm quartz
Fuel’s a mess
brisk roost
I think Unkoe is playing today lol.
ember jewel
Only upwards
warm quartz
Fuel has always been a mess, they fuckin signed xQc of all people
pearl stratus
It's unnecessary pressure, and people are hyping it up too much.
brisk roost
He's their new main Widow now IIRC
ember jewel
tru
hazy arrow
God, I want Fuel to win this just for Reddit to get super salty
warm quartz
Who is the flaming trash can
pearl stratus
They've had their Koreans for ten days. Its not like they'll come out of the gate with this insane teamwork.
And Dallas has a whole new team.
It's going to be weird af.
idle beacon
anyone watched Ready Player One yet ?
pearl stratus
It was okay.
warm quartz
PLEASE SO WE DONT CLUTTER
brisk roost
Nah
idle beacon
how much tracer is in that movie?
pearl stratus
So win win.
warm quartz
Like
brisk roost
Not watching any movie until Infinity War.
fresh turret
3 seconds I hear?
pearl stratus
2 seconds, and its an OWL commercial.
idle beacon
really only 2 ?
fresh turret
Ye ok
idle beacon
hahaha wtf
idle beacon
when is infinity war part 1 hittin the cinemas?
fresh turret
I'm pumped to see Geguri and people play today, plus the event announcement hypeee
brisk roost
I'm def watching it
warm quartz
There were murlocs and other warcraft/starcraft stuff running around too
brisk roost
No way I'm gonna skip that
idle beacon
ok.. too bad vision is gonna die
fresh turret
I hope today is hype
idle beacon
did you ever read the comic books, r8 ?
warm quartz
Shit vs shit today, players proving themselves, event info, new package and skins
fresh turret
And I hope the patch will change the meta nicely
warm quartz
Shock vs gladiators should be interest-OH FUCK
idle beacon
gladiators aren't shit
brisk roost
Only a little bit of comics tbh but because I grew up watching MCU
fresh turret
Lmao
brisk roost
I think Glads are taking this tbh
ember jewel
Same meta tho
fresh turret
Gladiators are fuckin good tho
fresh turret
What are you guys thinking of SHD versus fuel?
brisk roost
Close but SHD taking the ultimate W
ember jewel
Fuel's players are better
brisk roost
Could be a 3-1 too
ember jewel
but SHD is a team, Fuel is a shit show
fresh turret
That's gonna be the real surprise match, since both teams are p much new
scarlet spear
anything can happen with current fuel
fresh turret
In terms of skill
brisk roost
Yeah Fuel has the top dog players but the way Kyky is managing them it's not helping
fresh turret
I hope someone makes an easy-ish to understand documentation of what exactly is happening bts with fuel
cobalt fossil
when do the games start today?
scarlet spear
forgot about time change inbetween the stages
cobalt fossil
people always be messing with time. bastards.
hazy arrow
The game starts at 1am for me. Blizzard really hates Europe
scarlet spear
it was nice when NA had daylight saving times already but i didnt
cobalt fossil
hope dallas plays seagull as dva out of the gate
hazy arrow
If Seagull doesn't play today, then I don't know. But I personally believe he will
cobalt fossil
felt like dallas was playing well for once when he did
hazy arrow
That match against NYXL was super close
And they also played pretty good against Spitfire
cobalt fossil
the nyxl match was weirdly close...didn't expect them to have such a good showing
brisk roost
Indeed
I thought it was an easy 4-0 for NYXL
But holy crap
Ngl Fuel almost had it
hazy arrow
My fav moment against Spitfire https://twitter.com/tomy698/status/977659282001932288
brisk roost
That's why I can't underestimate their strength from now
Lol
They all screamed "SEEEENINE"
So memorable man xD!
limber pine
Twitter
hazy arrow
Mickie is truly adorable 😄
I absolutely loved conversation between him and xQc when Felix wanted to know what he should give Mickie for Christmas 😄
Hopefully one day they will reunite
brisk roost
I'm pretty sure they still have contacts to each other tbh
Since he plays with the players in OWL sometimes in his streams
olive edge
time to lose df. shanghai activated
slim summit
torpid charm
brisk roost
olive edge
just heads up
slasher said daemin will play this game
rascal will not. he is still in korea
olive edge
hopefully it wont turn into shd apologizing again 
mortal fractal
@slow cloak tupu
inner coyote
hey for the all-access pass, would it expire once season 1 is over?
olive edge
no untill season 2 starts
mild drum
tawny sigil
well it takes time to get a victory
verbal roost
ruby pendant
Dragons!!!
balmy wolf
they haven’t won a single game
silk linden
Dallas are a mess but c'mon don't overreact
scarlet spear
dallas also looked pretty good in their last game
balmy wolf
Eqo fined?
silk linden
It is the best chance have had so far though
balmy wolf
For racially insensitive gesture on his personal stream
silk linden
No suspension, though I assume he is being punished internally
It's just weird that xQc got more for less
Though xQc also had the the "retard" thing and most importantly was a repeat offender
silk linden
Sure, it is possible
torpid charm
WAIT BUT THERE'S MORE
silk linden
No justice for xQc
torpid charm
silk linden
Yep just as I said
tawny sigil
wtf racially insensitive gesture did he go?
silk linden
Where have you been
tawny sigil
i can't even think of a single gesture i could make that would be racially incensitive
silk linden
The steaming privileges seems a bit much
torpid charm
I knew Tucker and everyone wasn't gonna let this pass lightly
torpid charm
good news is that SDB will rise from the bench
tawny sigil
fucking grate
dusk garden
they did something they should have done with xQc tho
scarlet spear
take it as you will, its still offensive to some people
silk linden
I agree with the internal punishment, though no streaming until June is brutal
dusk garden
revoked streaming priviliges
scarlet spear
yeah till june is pretty fuckin long
dusk garden
but until June?
torpid charm
isn't that the end of stage 4?
scarlet spear
then again, streaming isnt really a big part of eQo is it?
dusk garden
id say max 3 weeks or something
silk linden
Though I can understand a team controlling their player's public image
scarlet spear
never seen his stream
limber pine
Fusion bringing down the hammer
dusk garden
what did he do to get banned anyway?
torpid charm
read up
dusk garden
more precisely tho
i dont know what "insensitive gesture" means
could mean many things
solar trout
wtf.
indigo barn
Boombox not standing up to shake hands is more offensive to me than some squinty eyed action
dense jasper
Did anyone else get a Jeff Kaplan live announcement notification on their phone from the Overwatch League App?
dense jasper
That looks like how I destress
tawny sigil
god forbid we point out reality
dense jasper
I guess it's all about context...
silk linden
He didn't have malicious intent, but it was still something he shouldn't have done
indigo barn
He might just be rubbing his temples bc of a migraine
silk linden
No he wasn't
scarlet spear
its still offensive, he didnt mean it in an offensive way
tawny sigil
NEVER POINT OUT REALITY, EVERYONE HATES REALITY.
indigo barn
That’s a compliment
silk linden
Lioran stfu
solar trout
$4000 fine, 3 game suspension, and revoked streaming privileges? Wtf streaming isn't even a privilege. That's like saying "You can't talk for 3 months"
tawny sigil
racially incencitive
pearl stratus
Your mother should have gone to planned parenthood is a reality too.
dense jasper
I mean, it's not even hilarious tho?
pearl stratus
But pointing it out is rude.
dense jasper
Why do it
indigo barn
Isn’t steaming like a personal thing
pearl stratus
And the mods would yell at me.
solar trout
I mean its good he donated $3k more to ACLU and fusion donated $10k total to ACLU but that doesn't even do anything
solar trout
:/
balmy wolf
Good point
pearl stratus
Personal stream is after you're not in the league anymore.
pearl stratus
He'd be gone in a month.
indigo barn
He wants to be free
silk linden
"OMG I can't even pull back my eyes to mimic another race" like, stop, let it flow. You don't sound like the defender of freedom you think you are
scarlet spear
yeah
balmy wolf
In private with my friends iv made alot of insensitive jokes
scarlet spear
they're better off tbh
indigo barn
But not kephrii doe
pearl stratus
Calvin says everything is gay and retarded. It's adult of him to know that it's a bad fit for him.
scarlet spear
and make more money
balmy wolf
I wouldnt be able to handle owl watching me
silk linden
Bro in private you can even say the n word for all anyone cares
pearl stratus
And didn't come out borderline a moron.