without getting punished
#esports-discussion
left spoke
pearl stratus
I really hope Dallas gets their shit together.
Because I like their current line up.
left spoke
^
pearl stratus
Fissure also gives no fucks calling out the Boosters.
pearl stratus
I mean yeah, but basically I think the biggest thing we know.
whole mulch
he will blame his team just like everyone in comp
left spoke
i think kyky was way out of line saying that the players shouldn't play like koreans
whole mulch
Custa?
pearl stratus
Alright, Custa does.
left spoke
cuz those are the people that are winning
pearl stratus
But Custa seems legit 100% done and wants to punch someone in the face sometimes.
whole mulch
they're trading custa
left spoke
k
whole mulch
or considering it
left spoke
ya that's so dumb
pearl stratus
I really doubt that Slasher rumor.
left spoke
me too
pearl stratus
Because no one wants Unkunt right now.
pearl stratus
The Inside Valiant fucked up Unkoes trade value.
left spoke
i haven't watched that
pearl stratus
Because all it showed was that Unkoe is toxic af towards his teammates.
pearl stratus
Basically it makes Kyky look good.
left spoke
welp
pearl stratus
With how bad the Valiant management is bad.
left spoke
it was super dumb how they sad down at in and out or whatever with agilities like that
pearl stratus
And Unkoe legit is toxic af to the team, which is why I believe they wouldn't mind trading him.
left spoke
sat down*
whole mulch
Unkoe is easily one of the most toxic players in OWL
pearl stratus
I think a lot of teams are finding out this season that you can get away with slightly worse players if they have better attitudes.
For this type of e-sport.
left spoke
who else even contends with unkoe toxicity wise
pearl stratus
I mean most pros are/were toxic to a point.
left spoke
true
pearl stratus
A lot of them have done a good job cleaning up their image because of OWL.
left spoke
but shutting down when your losing is the fastest way to lose mroe
whole mulch
Danteh was super toxic
pearl stratus
It's rusty.
whole mulch
Sinatraa still is toxic
pearl stratus
He played it decently in Stage 2.
left spoke
was danteh toxic?
pearl stratus
But not to what we saw in Worlds.
whole mulch
Yes.
pearl stratus
Yeah, Danteh was immature toxic more than angry toxic imo though
left spoke
i didn't know that
pearl stratus
Like he was of that age/stupidity where he thought it was legit funny to be that toxic.
Versus him just actually being mad.
If that makes sense.
left spoke
ya makes sense
pearl stratus
Sinatraa will go back to being toxic af since his fan base already turned on him.
left spoke
that isn't a fan base you want
pearl stratus
Mr 150k didn't go so well for his maps in Staeg 2.
left spoke
and hasn't he stopped streaming
whole mulch
Sin is like 0-2 now right
left spoke
for at least a little bit
pearl stratus
Since Danteh is, legitimately, the better Tracer imo.
whole mulch
For now it seems like it
pearl stratus
A few stages of playing against the other OWL pros really upped Dantehs game.
Sinatraa will recover if he can break his ladder play habits.
But yeah.
left spoke
lol
pearl stratus
And he's the best tracer.
whole mulch
lol
pearl stratus
So maybe Tracer + Minecraft = Good.
whole mulch
Sinatraa should play minecraft
left spoke
but not in the league
whole mulch
maybe he will learn
pearl stratus
Jake tree.
pearl stratus
No, he's not used to LAN I'm sure.
whole mulch
at best
pearl stratus
He's going to have growing pains for a bit.
Realistically he's what.. 8 weeks behind the others in terms of LAN player/tracer battle practice?
Minecraft.
whole mulch
Why did he name it after Jake
whole mulch
He should have a junkrat skin
pearl stratus
I wonder if Jakes convinced SBB to help him with his Tracer.
magic zinc
Jake tree <3
Saebyeolbe is so wholesome dear lord
Hawelka contender
Dont think he'd win it
pearl stratus
He's going to get a $4000 fine though
pearl stratus
Throwing his first game soon.
pearl stratus
Did you see the Homefront battle that Houston and NYXL are having?
silk linden
hawelka has to go to mickie
I mean, it's easy to be wholeseome when you're in NYXL
not so much in Fuel
also he's literally the guy who replaced hulk in envyus
would be super fitting for him to be the first winner
the hulk legacy
torpid charm
SBB #1 married man
sour breach
ruby pendant
@sour breach Lol, who is that?
paper crag
Itâs 40 mil now?
I thought it was 20 mil
Is it 40 for the next season or something
pearl stratus
20 Mill was season 1.
Right now Season 2 has been sitting at 35-40.
Though they do work with people who can't put it up, so always negotiate.
ruby pendant
Wonder who will buy in at that price?
silk linden
that's the same question people asked with the initial asking price
orgs will buy in
y'all keep underestimating OWL
esports is a young, growing market
big companies like comcast are investing in it
it's a long term investment too
and in today's economy, 40mil is peanuts
for big corporations
paper crag
Do you guys think more organizations will bid than there are slots?
What happens if there arenât enough bidders? Does blizz just take a couple fewer teams to meet the next biggest number of teams to make the league work
?
silk linden
I assume they have decided the number of expasion slots based on offers they've already received
pearl stratus
That's the standard inflation for things like that. Typically if you dont' buy in quickly/early enough you lose out on that starting price because early on its more of a gamble with your money.
silk linden
it's not like they're gonna set a date for eveyone to start bidding
they're likely already negotiating
pearl stratus
So $20,000,000 was actually overall pretty cheap, because OWL could have failed horrifically and people would be out money.
The longer OWL runs the higher the price goes because the risk diminishes.
silk linden
people just look at 20mil and think, that's a lot of money
it's not, for such a big investment in media
the world is about content
have your brand on everything, everywhere
pearl stratus
It's also perspective based o owners.
Like for Robert Kraft thats what he uses to wipe his ass.
silk linden
yeah
pearl stratus
For the guy who owns Shanghai $20,000,000 is what he spends on lunch.
The dudes worth like 38 billion.
silk linden
yep
pearl stratus
And that's just him, not hte entire organization.
Also typically it doesn't come just from the organizations.
Part of the money can come from the place the team will be located.
paper crag
Yeah chinese esports money is insane
pearl stratus
If a city/state finds it beneficial to host an OWL team (since stadiums etc will be needed) they'll chip in too.
silk linden
also, again, people are underestimating the success of OWL and esports in general
pearl stratus
It's a matter of if they think the economic return on investment will exist when such a point comes.
silk linden
esports is only gonna get bigger in the future
pearl stratus
I'm sure there's numbers for LA already on the increase in tourism with the OWL.
And other states/cities/countries will be looking at that.
paper crag
I donât follow LoL but a lot of korean players jumped ship to chinese teams for like 3-5x the salary or something
A few years back
silk linden
same thing with football, yeah
pearl stratus
People tend to think really narrowly when it comes to this stuff.
Having a team in a popular sport is huge for a city.
silk linden
like real talk, SBB is pitching at the Mets game
paper crag
I hope we donât get any more LA teams though lol
silk linden
that's insane
pearl stratus
Well NYXL is owned by the Mets.
So its a bit of nepotism.
But its also smart cross commercialism.
paper crag
But i do want a yankees ow team
paper crag
I dont care about baseball lol
pearl stratus
Eh if you want to be owned by a team you want to be owned by the Yankees.
Because $$$$$$$.
left spoke
that's true tho
paper crag
I just want there to be one so mets and yankees would both have one lol
left spoke
dolla dolla bills yall
paper crag
And be at each otherâs throats
paper crag
Yeah i want a paris team
left spoke
or dubai or something
paper crag
That paris vs london
silk linden
I gotta check how much european football clubs have invested in esports so far, probably not ebough to justify a sudden interest in OWL. It's a shame, it would have been a good way to bring in more EU OWL teams
pearl stratus
Blizzard specifically mentioned they were going after more Asian and EU places.
left spoke
im sure at least four teams will be added for season 2
pearl stratus
Actually there's a lot of talks of Football clubs picking up OWL.
Because Fifa is becoming a huge E-sport in the EU.
silk linden
Manchester teams maybe
paper crag
I also think beijing could be a thing
silk linden
PSG
left spoke
i wish shanghai could get their act together
silk linden
Taipei maybe
pearl stratus
I can't remember the amount Blizzard said they wanted the teams to be.
left spoke
i want good games not blowouts
paper crag
Weâll see about shd
pearl stratus
But I think it was something like 24 total teams.
paper crag
First game is vs fuel, so itâs not the worst team to open your season against
pearl stratus
I think they're trying to grow it out geographically by region so its easier to to do the international travel if they want to do it.
paper crag
Although fuel does have that ânew stage, weâre gonna look like weâre getting our shit togetherâ phase
pearl stratus
So if you go to say... London for a stage.
You have 6-7 teams in that area.
So travel is kept to a minimum.
ruby pendant
@silk linden This could be $a 1 billion or greater business, but I'm not sure how companies will value the investment.
pearl stratus
Then they do the next stage in Korea, and have 6-7 teams around Korea.
At least thats what I infered from it.
left spoke
the more companies that invest the more it will be worth
pearl stratus
As it stands from Q1 so far they've still made money off of OWL.
left spoke
next season right @pearl stratus
paper crag
6-7 teams from korea would be pretty funny lol
pearl stratus
Uh I think thats season 3.
paper crag
All so close to each other
pearl stratus
From around Korea, not just Korea itself đ
But geographically within a few hours to keep travel time down.
Since the downtime between weeks in stages is so small.
left spoke
i can't imagine them moving location every single stage
pearl stratus
Per stage I could see, not per week
silk linden
I work for a company who sometimes does work for Juventus, maybe they'll pick up an OWL team and I'll be doing the esport section of their database management
silk linden
We'll be building them the crazy analytic software that NYXL use
left spoke
okay super off topic but i am fourteen and i want to get a job for better gear, is mcdonalds a good first job.
NYXL has analytic software?
paper crag
I just find it pretty hilarious that china EXCELS at some international competition but completely flop at others
Like they murder everyone in ping pong
left spoke
china is dominant in ping pong ya
paper crag
But canât play soccer to save their lives
left spoke
they lost last world championship tho right?
paper crag
But their owl is... yeah
left spoke
their owl sucks
left spoke
ya their old head coach
paper crag
But still, youâd think weâd have seen a decent chinese team in apex like there were envyus and rogue
paper crag
Database of games and players?
pearl stratus
Eh McDonalds isn't a good job. But its not a bad one either.
Customer service in any retail environment is a useful learning experience.
Even if its just to learn how all people are bastards.
paper crag
The downside is that you now know how inefficiently most retails work, and will be even more frustrated when there are delays
As a customer
pearl stratus
On that same side though - you'll also be sympathetic towards almost every retail worker you meet going forward unless its the one you can tell is doing his job badly on purpose.
I wish the bubble hadn't popped with millenials for the retail job I had worked at.
Or I would have kept it.
paper crag
Thatâs what i thought at first too, but it progressed to âokay. I know iâm being screwed because of these guys not doing things right, not because of the systemâ
I do sympathize, but it doesnât stop me from being pissed lol
Also, you get to see how nasty some people are in food preparation
ruby pendant
Amazon would give you 10% discount, if you work there
paper crag
Huh, cool
pearl stratus
Amazon also had an employee try to jump off the building and kill himself đ
So be careful where at Amazon you work.
I worked for AT&T for a while, and while it was soul crushing the pay was obscene.
Then it just kept going down, down, down, down as younger kids would take the job for less money.
pearl stratus
Pretty sure he was on a desk.
Warehouse is just demanding and tough,but most people seem to enjoy it
paper crag
i heard the seasonal warehouse jobs pay pretty nicely, although i doubt there's much "going up" from there
i heard they also WORK you lol
indigo barn
i find a desk job to be more painful
i'd rather be up and moving around
so yeah the amazon dude probably had a desk job
paper crag
probably
i feel like part time warehouse jobs wouldn't be in papers as "amazon employee"
probably more like "florida man"
and then a little sentence about how he worked at an amazon waraehouse or whatever
so the escort map in the current contenders match is "to be decided"
are maps decided during the match by teams or something?
like banning/picking maps similar to other FPS esports?
or so i've heard. i don't watch other fps
ruby pendant
@indigo barn Both office and warehouse jobs can be challenging. You should expect to be working there 12 hours, and perhaps overtime.
indigo barn
man amazon needs to be audited big time before it becomes nike 2.0
ruby pendant
The turnover rate I believe is high. The same with ups, and etc. This is how these companies get by. They don't expect people to last long. Your Nike comment made me laugh though.
pearl stratus
Also Amazon has fun ways around taxes remember. They haven't had to pay any yet.
left spoke
Ya @pearl stratus i might get a job at mcdonalds cuz i want new headphones
my headphones suck
the disconnect all the time
as a zen main i have to listen for flanking tracers
left spoke
what if the tracer isn't in your line of sight
pearl stratus
McDonalds isn't bad, supermarkets are also a good spot for young people because there's lots of departments.
paper crag
@left spoke you see with the Iris
Zen main who can't even be one within the Iris, pffft
torpid charm
next week needs to come faster so I can get back to watching OWL
indigo barn
Yes so we can watch shanghai rise to #1
torpid charm
yeeeeeeees 
ruby pendant
Nope, some people want to enjoy their break
torpid charm
the Philly boys went to 6 Flags the other day, Houston boys are actually in Texas, a lot of the Koreans went back home. Pine got a hair cute. very cute overall
paper crag
man i have to work during the first game of stage 3
and that's one of my most anticipated games
of the entire stage
torpid charm
I'm going to the watch party for Fusion's first game, gonna get my SDB and Nerf Poko shirt. very excited
ruby pendant
Would laugh if Fusion get reverse swept again.
left spoke
what are the games for the first day?
indigo barn
Fusion are basically getting paid to go on vacation and play video games
What better job can you ask for XD
torpid charm
Shanghai vs. Dallas
LAV vs. Seoul
San Fran vs. LAG @left spoke
wet oyster
and live in a super nice house and get food from heidi @indigo barn
torpid charm
I love Fusion sm
left spoke
ty
dusk garden
mfw KyKy was #1 tank NA
jagged crater
do OWL teams get the unique tools like top down VOD replays?
the casters mention having them
pearl stratus
Some teams have hired groups to make them their own tools and stuff, and I believe they get some of the vod replays too
pearl stratus
Left may be a strong word.
Released for publicity since he was the next bigger scandal is probably better.
pearl stratus
I think there's a chance they'll do better without him, he overcompensated too much a lot of the time and put himself in bad positions. Though his McCree was great
pearl stratus
Plus, Diya is close to being back in the states.
brisk roost
Yeah at least Diya is coming back
gaunt acorn
pearl stratus
I want Shanghai to do well so we can start using the chinese words for meta things.
Dive sounds stupid.
In China its "Release the dog"
Which sounds badass.
Also Shanghai has what.. like 3-4 MY people on their Contenders team nwo?
They'll be a'ight.
Also.
LA Valiant did a puppy day.
To try and get good publicity.
Two puppies shit on the carpet and were taken to in and out.
hidden vault
Undead leaving SHD?
Lmao he was from LDG
Anyways no point staying cause U4 left too
ember jewel
If only Undead could keep a specific part of his body inside a specific part of his clothes
ember jewel
but that wasnt the only problem
along with getting the girl pregnant, he cheated on her
hidden vault
Technically it's just the pregnancy and him leaving both the child and the girl
Cheating would not be that much of a sensation
supple prism
wait what
torpid charm
Undad better be getting his shit together
who would've guessed 2 player releases, woooow
supple prism
i dont like all this soap opera drama in my videogames
silk linden
No same girl, which is why she couldn't have a third one and he became Undad
What, but the soap opera drama is what's good about it
Without the drama Dallas and Shanghai would just be bad teams
This way there's at least some spice
hidden vault
Double abortion for the the girl is bad af
Plus I thought he would have learnt his lesson the 1st time
hidden vault
Veex says is the same girl but R8 says it is a different one đ¤ˇ
pearl stratus
Meanwhile you have Effect going for Saebyolbe cheats.
And getting a ring with his girlfriend, either wedding or promise ring.
Because having a woman makes you a better tracer, Saebyolbe approved.
torpid charm
that's like before you get into Contenders basically I think
tawny sigil
OWL (gone pregnancy) (gone sexual)
paper crag
@torpid charm is shd releasing two players? Or was it a reference to the two abortions related to undead
torpid charm
HAHAHA NO
I was referencing the release of Undead and xQc, two player releases in one season
tawny sigil
there was 2 abortion story regarding undead's girlfriend
torpid charm
oh yeah I know
I can't believe Undead really did all of that, like that's hella bad an hella crazy
mans needs to get it together
tawny sigil
i didn't follow the story so not sure what happened, but intercourse requires 2 people
pearl stratus
Also - flat out. One of those girls is a crazy bitch.
And Undead broke the cardinal rule.
Don't stick your dick in crazy.
fickle fog
pretty sure its dont stay with crazy tbh đ¤
torpid charm
nah it's also don't stick your dick in crazy
pearl stratus
No, its sticking your dick. Because crazy has a higher pregnancy rate.
fickle fog
xD
magic zinc
Damn never knew
pearl stratus
One of my ex' was a crazy. Redhead crazy too. Which is like the best and worst crazy altogether.
magic zinc
But its on the internet so it must be true
pearl stratus
She had a friend get mad at her at summer camp.
torpid charm
pearl stratus
So she poked holes in the girls entire condom stash.
torpid charm
I love OWL drama
magic zinc
Lmao is she a mother of 12 now?
pearl stratus
Then I realized I was dating that girl.
magic zinc
oh
fickle fog
O.o
magic zinc
Oh no
torpid charm
btw are Effect and his girlfriend engaged?
pearl stratus
Doubtful.
magic zinc
But thats okay right
torpid charm
okay
torpid charm
I can't tell the difference
pearl stratus
Most engagement rings are one sided.
Man to woman, woman to woman, etc.
It's rare you exchange engagement rings.
torpid charm
I'm too young to know, I'm like 12
pearl stratus
The exchange is more around the wedding band.
torpid charm
pls hope for a Shanghai win next week
pearl stratus
Though Effect should lock that shit down.
It's scientifically proven that being married ups your Tracer play by an easy 25%.
fickle fog
SBB proves that bois
torpid charm
I wanna be like SBB, good at Overwatch and loving my wife
hidden vault
Any article on undead's scandal?
torpid charm
if you go on the Overwatch TMZ Reddit, it's there. you might have to search a little
I'm too lazy to pull it up
hidden vault
I found this too
But WHAT THE FLYING FUCK
This can be turned into a freakin china drama
gray thorn
pearl stratus
Note her crazy ass too though. "I found he had a new girlfriend so I IMMEDIATELY TOLD HIS TEAMMATE AND HER EX BOYFRIEND I LOVED THEM TO TRY AND HURT THEM."
torpid charm
give me all the drama
pearl stratus
"I really lost my mind in those days. I don't know if it's a revenge to me or Undead, I tell 2M that I love him(Because Undead is always oddly jealous about him), I tell Naicha that I love him(Because I know he is a good friend of XiaoKe). I thought if I dated a pro player, treat him well, he performs better than Undead in game, it'll will be the victory of me."
See kids.
Don't stick your dick in crazy.
Learn from Papa Undad.
silk linden
at least use protection when you do
molten skiff
well tho isnt that after she found out undead was cheating?
whole mulch
But whyyy
ember jewel
Mendo is the IDDQD of Outlaws
pearl stratus
Mendo put himself on the bench last he was talking about.
Being a big chunk emo.
And just not integrating with the team well.
Basically the same story that happened to him last time.
silk linden
Mendo is more comparable to Pine than iddqd now
though he's not just out of it mentally, he also believes he wouldn't be a positive addition to the team
pearl stratus
Convince him to learn enough heroes he's worth playing again
fallow raven
My baseball coach would let our bench players play in less impact games
To give them exposure and playtime and experience in a game environment
silk linden
I mean it's SDB he hardly needs exposure
fallow raven
Overwatch coaches will experiment more too, you'll see, but this early they are afraid to make mistakes that other teams aren't making
silk linden
the only risk is getting rusty if you don't scrim and play with the team
fallow raven
Right now it's cookie cutter
Exposure doesn't mean to gain fans
BTW
Exposure to the professional environment and setting
silk linden
I know what you mean
fallow raven
Nothing to do with popularity
silk linden
but he's still Shadowburn
fallow raven
Yeah true
fallow raven
You're right I'm speaking I'm speaking more generally at this point I guess
Give it a few years before you see coaches try anything different
silk linden
hell look at Philly and Boston's pickup. The orgs went 1000IQ there
fallow raven
My 2 fav teams
pearl stratus
The problem is even the exposure is dangerous when its a really limited.
Teams are learning that having those crazy flex players are way more important at this level that someone who can only bring 1-2 heroes.
So unless you're a Tracer, you need to bring a big pool.
deft valley
or zen
silk linden
or Dva
patch changes is when you see the true OW god shine
I can assure you that if they nerfed Zen to the ground Jjonak would still be the best player in the league
fallow raven
Dva always relevant
cerulean plume
Lol did you guys see the slasher tweets and fate responses
Rip valiant
These pros are too weak minded, its literally the first season and they're all over reacting for doing poorly one week or making bad decisions
And yes there's pressure and negative feedback from fans but comon
cerulean plume
Well its both but yeah orgs have done so poorly in their management
grizzled kayak
cerulean plume
Im whatevs about it
Hope dragons do good
Or rather better
Since they probs wont do good
torpid charm
hoping for a Shanghai win in stage 3
pearl stratus
The orgs need to realize reddit isn't worth wiping your ass with the paper it could be printed on.
Stop worrying about reaching out to those type of people and just handle your business.
idle beacon
who is mendo?
paper crag
Whoâs the nobody that boston picked up and turned out to be a monster? Iâm guessing phillyâs is snillo
torpid charm
Snillo wasn't a nobody
silk linden
boston weren't nobodies but weren't big names either
for philly it was definitely eqo
torpid charm
Eqo wasn't really a nobody either, lol
Boston's core purpose was basically to put together a team of hidden gems
silk linden
eqo was basically a nobody cmon
torpid charm
he wasn't well known but he was known enough
paper crag
oh yeah forgot about eqo
pearl stratus
Known to players not public, is how I'd describe it.
Because lets be real, if you didn't make it super high in competitions most people don't know you.
Kind of like how Fleta 'popped' out of nowhere when he'd been 1v11'ing for a year.
viral escarp
@pearl stratus thats extremely true
@pearl stratus either that or no one made crazy compilations of them on youtube lmfao...why do u think people know wraxu and seaugull it was either youtube or twitch
limber pine
torpid charm
whaaaaaat
brisk roost
Woah another one
limber pine
anamo and NYXL has been rumored for a long time
brisk roost
New teams having their new players wew
Jk lol
Just new players I mean
But yeah holy crap
Stage 3 is gonna be nuts
pearl stratus
Ever since Ark and his wrist, you know of knew it was happening.
You can't put Mano in on a support if Ark is hurt, because it hurts the other side of things.
whole mulch
Did Kabaji join Fusion?..
Or is he trolling
Oh he joined them as a streamer...what
slim summit
Didn't NYXL already have 12?
I guess not
I should probably have done a Google search instead of asking an easy to answer question
whole mulch
NYXL had a small roster I'm pretty sure
Their main 6 and janus and pine on bench i think
slim summit
I was kinda hoping they would have to sell someone
whole mulch
yeah they only have 9 people
slim summit
that perhaps might end up going to LAG
whole mulch
they still have room
slim summit
LAGLA
whole mulch
Sell pine
ember jewel
Gladiators got Void, so they're really fine now
Just need better synergy and comms
And they'll be a play offs team for sure
It's kinda sad FCTFCTN ended up going to Houston, to be a bench boy, when he could be the tank Dallas needed
So they wouldn't hire a booster, y know
torpid charm
how is that sad
onyx shore
man,the meme of j arhan lul ke is great
hidden vault
https://kakuchopurei.com/2018/03/31/overwatch-league-transfers-seoul-dynasty-dps-set-for-lav-switch/
fallow raven
F U S I O N for S T A G E 3
torpid charm
I'm not even surprised cause Fusion discord has been talking about this for hours now but it's still like wooooooooooooooow
paper crag
lol kinda funny how "The Valiant were looking for a Korean tracer" is a sentence
paper crag
it's like "he wanted a corvette"
i thought it was hilarious that non-koreans referred to non-korean SC2 players as "foreigners" too
torpid charm
so this will keep Kariv on Support since you got a solid DPS right there
mans moving from bench to bench low-key
paper crag
so is soon still on LAV?
paper crag
i wonder if soon and bunny will be subs for each other or if they'll be run alongside each other
and just pass tracer back and forth as needed
torpid charm
April 3rd is when the window closes
paper crag
who got booted from LAV?
torpid charm
tbh I feel like Bunny is better than Soon but that's my opinion
torpid charm
broken fog
Monte tweeted about a rumour
Based on currently rumors, the trade of Bunny to Valiant makes sense if Soon is leaving as part of a three-way trade.
Bunny -> Valiant
Soon and/or Unkoe -> Fuel
Effect -> Dynasty
I donât have any other explanation for Bunnyâs trade other than Soon changing teams.
hm...
so Bunny -> Valiant is comfirmed
paper crag
does dynasty need another tracer?
broken fog
nah
paper crag
they have munchkin
broken fog
I don't thinks so
paper crag
i don't think effect to seoul is very realistic
paper crag
unkoe to fuel might happen...? idk
broken fog
seagull can play right?
paper crag
fuel already has enough supports too, unless they're letting theirs go
broken fog
hm
paper crag
custa harryhook chips
but i did see effect unkoe duo quite a few times
not that it means anything
but between Soon/Unkoe to Fuel vs Effect to Seoul
Unkoe to Fuel seems most realistic
torpid charm
don't Soon and Unkoe travel in a pair anyways?
gaunt acorn
that remains to be seen
torpid charm
more
paper crag
fuel gearing up for that 6 DPS meta
gaunt acorn
well if fuel is trading EFFECT to seoul...
paper crag
but would seoul even want effect?
gaunt acorn
effect might be better in their eyes
torpid charm
Seoul would have Effect, Fleta, Munchkin, and who else
gaunt acorn
and munchkin would be the b team
torpid charm
I swear they have another
paper crag
you think effect can bench munchkin?
gaunt acorn
gido
broken fog
can fleta play tracer?
torpid charm
oh yeah
paper crag
OH YEAH
paper crag
sorry. i had to do that lol
gaunt acorn
with fleta
torpid charm
not that he can't play Tracer, that's just not his thing
broken fog
but gido's momentum is pretty low right now.
torpid charm
that's why he's bench boi
paper crag
man, seoul is just so boring for me for some reason
but i have to support them if effect goes
torpid charm
ya
gaunt acorn
i think effect will play a lot better too
when hes not depressed from dallas drama
just needs to regain his confidence
paper crag
so how big is this "effect to seoul" speculation?
gaunt acorn
and reliable tanks + supports will help
gaunt acorn
its pretty credible now that the bunny trade is confirmed
seoul will likely want to have a 12 man roster again
for internal scrimming
paper crag
so you think seoul is just trying to change their tracer pool, not drop a tracer and pick up some other role
gaunt acorn
and the signing window closes soon
broken fog
Fuel need effect
broken fog
because expect for him
paper crag
i guess what matters is does effect need fuel
gaunt acorn
no
broken fog
no one can play tracer in fuel
gaunt acorn
fuel has ruined his self confidence
paper crag
lol i know
gaunt acorn
hes constantly depressed
paper crag
the "does effect need fuel" was kind of rhetorical
gaunt acorn
moving to seoul would be the best outcome for effect
broken fog
Well agree
paper crag
i mean it would be great for him
torpid charm
he's literally sad ashell I know y'all see how he acts, it def would be a lot better
better team + better environment
paper crag
i'm just curious how likely the trade is, and how likely is it that he'll be the A squad
torpid charm
if it is true why wouldn't he be on the A team?
paper crag
would def be fun to watch him play with top tier tanks and supports though
isn't munchkin already a pretty good tracer who's been doing a lot for seoul
gaunt acorn
effect would likely be on the A team
paper crag
not that effect "wont" be on the A team
paper crag
i'm just curious if it's pretty much guaranteed
paper crag
what will happen to mendo lol
gaunt acorn
keep in mind seoul would have fleta, wekeed, gido, munchkin, and effect
as dps
gido is technically flex, but
torpid charm
#FreeMendo
paper crag
are rjh and tobi the only dedicated supports?
i feel like i've seen gido support more than other roles
torpid charm
I deadass forgot Wekeed existed omfg
gaunt acorn
paper crag
lol wekeed played a lot of junkrat in stage 1 i think
broken fog
I just realized
torpid charm
shout out to the B Teams and the Bench Bois
paper crag
kuki and xephyr are the ones who went invisible on me
torpid charm
YO
paper crag
i want xephyr vs geguri on that seoul vs SHD game
torpid charm
I keep forgetting about all these players omg
gaunt acorn
its hard to be kuki and xephyr when your main tank roster is some of the most famous players in overwatch
paper crag
not that it'll probably happen lol
yeah
miro and zunba lol
i want to see xephyr vs geguri for the drama, but zunba vs geguri for the zarya
although i don't think KR is in next stage
so rip zarya i guess
maybe when we get some triple/quad tank comps
ew. fusion is owned by comcast?
torpid charm
funny you say that because I was just talking to the owners son
the senior analyst of the team
that's why they balling so big, it's that good Comcast shmoney
fallow raven
F U S I O N stage 3 CHAMPS
gaunt acorn
@paper crag yeah
at first i didn't root for them because of it
plus the sado boosting stuff
but.. they're just so lovable
cunning cove
What is esports?
gaunt acorn
there's no way to really define "the top"
hidden vault
Wouldn't seoul get someone from LaV since this is a trade?
gaunt acorn
some stand-out players right now are saebyeolbe, gesture, fleta, carpe..
cunning cove
Oh
hidden vault
But why effect ftom Dallas?
gaunt acorn
there's no ranking system for overwatch league so it's anyone's guess
cunning cove
Do the guys actually move from Seoul to L.A.
cunning cove
A year?
gaunt acorn
january to july
gaunt acorn
it's pretty cool indeed
if you haven't already, pick a team to root for
then abandon all hope when they lose a match
cunning cove
Dang
gaunt acorn
so they can afford salaries for professional players
they also earn money from the league, obviously
if they win
cunning cove
What would the salary be of a top player
gaunt acorn
the highest salary we know of was $180,000
for one season
that was 'carpe', i believe
cunning cove
Dang
gaunt acorn
the average salary is closer to 60,000 - 70,000
but star players like carpe earn a lot more
cunning cove
Oh
gaunt acorn
sinatraa, a 17 yr old (at the time) got signed for $150,000
cunning cove
Isn't he supposed to be 18+
gaunt acorn
he's 18 now
cunning cove
Oh
gaunt acorn
he just couldn't play when they signed him
cunning cove
Overwatch is miles ahead of fortnite
gaunt acorn
yeah, a game like fortnite can't really have a big esports scene
because it's too random
due to loot drops, spawn location, etc
cunning cove
Oh
gaunt acorn
an ideal competitive game makes the playing field level
so individual skill can shine through more
fortnite is fun as a casual game though
because the randomness makes it exciting and unpredictable
but that doesn't translate well to pro gaming
cunning cove
Is there like academy's
gaunt acorn
you mean like a subdivision?
cunning cove
Yh
gaunt acorn
yup
contenders is the "minor league" for owl
that's where all the up-and-coming talent play
and people looking for teams
cunning cove
Who do you support
gaunt acorn
i cheer for seoul dynasty, new york excelsior, and philadelphia fusion
but i like a lot of the teams
i also root for the los angeles gladiators a lot
my main team has always been seoul dynasty, though
cunning cove
Is there an Irish team
gaunt acorn
nope, closest would be london spitfire
cunning cove
What's that
gaunt acorn
each season is broken into 4 miniature "stages"
cunning cove
Oh
cunning cove
So London Spitfire are a top tier team
gaunt acorn
yup, definitely
here's the final stage 2 (just finished last sunday) standings
Overwatch League Season 1
https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague
Match days are every Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday!
Stage 2 Standings: (W-D-L)
New York Excelsior: 9-1 [34-0-9] đĽ
London Spitfire: 8-2 [31-0-11] đĽ
Philadelphia Fusion: 7-3 [27-0-15] đĽ
Seoul Dynasty: 7-3 [25-0-16]
Los Angeles Gladiators: 6-4 [25-1-16]
Boston Uprising: 6-4 [21-0-22]
Houston Outlaws: 5-5 [22-0-22]
Los Angeles Valiant: 4-6 [18-1-23]
San Francisco Shock: 3-7 [17-1-24]
Florida Mayhem: 3-7 [15-1-27]
Dallas Fuel: 2-8 [13-1-28]
Shanghai Dragons: 0-10 [2-1-37]
Full schedule:
https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule
you can see london placed 2nd in the regular play
but came 3rd in the playoffs (bronze medal)
gaunt acorn
haha yup
cunning cove
Or chairman
cunning cove
LOL
hidden vault
Nah don't be
cunning cove
Why
hidden vault
He chose Nepotism
cunning cove
Oh
cunning cove
Nyxl are good
cunning cove
Yh
gaunt acorn
yeah, that's a fair analogy haha
cunning cove
Alright I gtg now thanks dude
hidden vault
I dunno about you guys if Dallas is going take Unkoe it seems to my Dallas is a dumping ground for toxic players
Unkoe is pretty toxic in LAV
Sad Mickie
red anvil
Effect is not going to seoul
Thats just monte being monte, he tries to find connectiond that arent there
We'll see what the final roster changes are
gaunt acorn
don't be so sure
scarlet spear
yeah that makes a lot of sense at least, that was more of a reply to NiceToEat
still would like him to remain on fuel personally
hidden vault
oh right hero pools
then who should play tracer in Dallas
also there was a rumor that custa was moving to LA Valiant?
scarlet spear
its rumored that unkoe leaves valiant and custa will replace him... really hope thats not going to be true
hidden vault
then they can't fulfill the three way trade
KariV going over to Seoul in changing for Bunny? thoughts
could match it with Gido
since they are opposites
vestal mortar
No way VAL are trading KariV
hidden vault
Support/Flex and Flex/support
No way Dallas is trading Custa then
then it fufills the 3 ways trade
scarlet spear
you know it doesnt have to be a 3 way trade
seoul still has munchkin for their tracer starter, could potentially sign some korean talent aswell
hidden vault
Gido could tracer too
scarlet spear
Valiant confirmed that they are getting more players tho
hidden vault
Do players have a say in where they go?
scarlet spear
dont think so
hidden vault
or is just swap here and there
scarlet spear
at least in fissures case he was told 3 hours before he had to move
hidden vault
oh wtf
vestal mortar
And Effect said he didn't know that Rascal was joining Fuel until the public announcement đ
There doesn't seem to be much communication about these things within the teams but maybe that depends a lot on the management/trying to avoid leaks.
Like who was the tank Fuel were gonna pick up a while ago but then Slasher leaked it and xqc threw a fit and then the deal fell through?
scarlet spear
SoWhat
hidden vault
Slasher? Fuel was supposed to pick Slasher?
onyx shore
bunny is officialy valiant player now
silk linden
So Soon is leaving
onyx shore
wow
silk linden
Unless, whose their other tracer?
onyx shore
is rogue gonna rise from the ashes of dallas fuel
scarlet spear
pls no ._.
scarlet spear
all that fat from in n out clouded their mind
spring lintel
I am out of the loop
vestal mortar
Twitter
spring lintel
Soon is better lmao
vestal mortar
Coach Moon is making some changes
vestal mortar
Have you watched the VAL team videos?
vestal mortar
We haven't seen their performance with their completed pickups/trades yet so I think it is a bit early to be asking what's wrong with them.
Noah said that there is more to come
magic zinc
Guess that tweet means Soon stays?
torpid charm
Noah need to uuuuuuh be traded or just thrown away as a whole
green gate
Shanghai dragons actually would have to win ALL of their matches for the rest of Owl while nyxl would need to lose all of their remaining matches in order for dragons to win đ
i find that very funny
but they are probably just going to go 0-40 anyways
torpid charm
if they go 0-40 then that's really fucking sad
I know that literally everyone would be so happy if they got at least 1 win
tight vault
1-39
torpid charm
that's better than 0-40 so I'm Gucci
hidden vault
0-40is great for Shanghai
silk linden
Imagine being the only team that lost to SHD once
inb4 NYXL go 9-1 next stage and that's their one loss
wouldn't even be mad
balmy wolf
Quick question, what is Seoul Dynasty getting in return for giving Valiant Bunny?