esports-discussion

[onyx shore]

i think kyky can afford to say

[red anvil]

Cocco is a professional OW streamer now

[onyx shore]

"we didnt play cocco because bla3"

[warped axle]

😦 Cocco

[hidden osprey]

I know, I was just making a comment in jest

[onyx shore]

at least there's an update

like seagull's condition

[hidden osprey]

Seagull is apparently being shoehorned into an off-tank role

[onyx shore]

what we know about cocco not playing is bcos taimou shotcall

[hidden osprey]

which, as we know worked so well for Taimou

[onyx shore]

that's it

and that's also ridiculous reason

[warped axle]

What's wrong with Mickie

[hidden osprey]

Effect said in his AMA that DF had no shotcaller

which raises even more question marks

[warped axle]

He's not great but he does his job

[red anvil]

you want a backup offtank in case Mickie gets sick

[onyx shore]

like

[red anvil]

you dont need 5 DPSes

[onyx shore]

who shotcall back then on envyus days?

[red anvil]

Timo

[warped axle]

xQc WAS the shotcaller

[hidden osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/84lbkw/translation_of_effects_ama_on_inven/

Wouldn't surprise me if it was true that xQc was the shotcaller

[red anvil]

xqc shotcalled in the matches he was in yes

but he dident play very many games

[hidden osprey]

the only reason why they looked so bad when they had xQc was because they were forcing the "pocket AKM" strat which just doesn't fucking work when you use the same strat every set

[red anvil]

he was also not a leader in those games he did play

[hidden osprey]

main tank usually leads the shots

hence why MT is so important

[red anvil]

yeah but he have talked about how he felt he had no authority in the team, and you need that as a leader

[hidden osprey]

true, but then again it seems like no one in DF seems to be a leader

which all falls back to Kyky

[red anvil]

Timo is

[hidden osprey]

Timo isn't a shotcaller

Effect said DF doesn't have one

[red anvil]

Shotcaller and leader aint the same thing

A leader creates gameplan, a shotcaller executes it

[hidden osprey]

they kind of go hand in hand, but it doesn't seem like they have a leader

[warped axle]

Who is Timo

[red anvil]

Taimou

[hidden osprey]

Timo = Taimou

Or as Effect says, Hentaimou

[warped axle]

Oh that's weird

Calling him not by his tag

[red anvil]

Timo is his real name

[warped axle]

That's like calling him George instead of ShadowBurn

[red anvil]

Does George sound anything like ShadowBurn?

[hidden osprey]

Taimou and Timo do sound similar

[onyx shore]

i've seen tviq using doomfist to defend point B in hanamura (desperation attempt)

what's the strat behind this? knocking people out from the capture zone?

[worldly acorn]

DF thrives on smaller enclosed spaces like Hanamura

lotsa walls for rocket punch to proc

[onyx shore]

ah i see

[pearl stratus]

Still intrigued that Houston took LAG to more games than London. I can't tell if thats good for Houston, or bad for LAG.

[onyx shore]

man,i just saw the vod of mayhem vs valiant

it's awesome,espcially tviq and logix

[pearl stratus]

Loqix ran away with the game.

Good job for the fat man.

[warped axle]

I feel bad that Zapp was only out for their terrible game on Hollywood

[pearl stratus]

Side note. I'm actually surprised that Logixx is really the only "out of shape" person in the league.

[warped axle]

Pine's not much better

[worldly acorn]

I mean there are a few

[pearl stratus]

Pine wears it better, if that makes sense.

[torpid charm]

there are a few thickies in the league

[worldly acorn]

Thiccmou

[warped axle]

Cwoosh is big

[torpid charm]

some bigger than others then some wear it better

[pearl stratus]

Also wears it better, due to his height.

[torpid charm]

yeah but Cwoosh is hella tall

[worldly acorn]

Seag has had sleep apnea due to his current weight

[pearl stratus]

Like its nothing negative against Logixx.

It's more the general state of the league is more fit than I expected.

[warped axle]

They're not fit they're skinny

[worldly acorn]

but If social media is to believed Dallas Fuel has been on a workout/diet kick

[pearl stratus]

Depends on the team. Houston doesn't really have any skinny people.

[warped axle]

Look at Fissure's arms

[pearl stratus]

Houston + Dallas both have gym days and stuff

Minus Linkzr.

[glacial sleet]

Merica.

[pearl stratus]

But thats regional.

[worldly acorn]

Mickie is fucking built

[pearl stratus]

Also Linkzr already scored the hot girlfriend.

He doesn't have to try anymore

[torpid charm]

Mickie low-key buff ashell

[pearl stratus]

Effect is getting there too.

[worldly acorn]

all those muscles are impacting on his speed

[pearl stratus]

He + Mickie + Custa hit the gym a lot apparently.

Then you get Seoul which hired their team a nutritionist, yoga instructor, and personal trainer.

[worldly acorn]

Effect says there isn't any "good" food in the team house

only healthy stuff

[pearl stratus]

Yeah I saw that during his interview.

I mean it makes sense, even if you play video games.

Take care of yourself and you do better.

[warped axle]

Have you guys seen the food they serve at the Fusion house

[pearl stratus]

Have you seen the old Gamsu cooking videos?

I'd want to be on Gamsu's team.

[worldly acorn]

It's why they have AKM start all the time, Rascal and Seag are training in the hyperbolic time chamber

[pearl stratus]

Gamsu somewhere between professional LoL playing time apparently learned how to cook really well.

[onyx shore]

so we gonna see blond spiky hair seagull soon

[worldly acorn]

a dragon blade that has surpassed a normal dragon blade

[onyx shore]

you're going to love this, trust me. what you're seeing now is my normal state. this is a super seagull. and this. this is what is known as a super seagull that has ascended above a super seagull. or, you could just call this a super seagull two.

[worldly acorn]

I call it dragon blade 2

[onyx shore]

AND THIS IS TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND

stop seagull,you gonna destroy the arena

[warped axle]

It's time to th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-throw

[pearl stratus]

You mean D'vagull?

Since he'll never be on Genji again?

[onyx shore]

at the end of stage 1 i thought seagull will get more playtime on stage 2

[pearl stratus]

Watching SBB make shadow puppets during halftime is my new happy place for the day

"I know I'm the best tracer. But here's a doggy."

[onyx shore]

i like his interaction with kephrii

[pearl stratus]

I still can't tell if he's serious, because he's so good at delivering shade with a perfectly straight face.

Also I'm kind of in love with the stupidity of people last night for the Game 5 match calling LA:Glad as Mystery Heroes when the comp (in my mind) makes perfect sense.

[indigo barn]

Let the support players have some fun too you know

[warped axle]

They're DPS players at heart

[molten skiff]

SHD missing Undead now?

[verbal roost]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/84s1n2/shd_undead_to_return_home_and_will_not_compete/

[solar trout]

My head hurts

[hidden osprey]

Does anyone know the quote that OWL used from xQc about not having an identity? Can’t seem to find it

I remember reinforce talking about it

[solar trout]

What does that even mean? He is a very good winston and reinhardt in game, and in person he is a high energy toxic spaz

[hidden osprey]

No no

It’s not about xqc

It’s about Dallas fuel not having an identity

[solar trout]

oh from

heh

[hidden osprey]

He said it on stream and then OWL quoted it on the desk

[solar trout]

https://www.dexerto.com/news/xqc-explains-dallas-fuel-need-improve/45593
“It’s very simple. We need to create for ourselves an identity, and see it through, push it, and make strats around it, and just embrace it. Because right now we don’t have an identity.”
“We play three different styles at the same time. Defensive, passive, aggressive, at the same time, and it’s simply not working for us”

[hidden osprey]

That’s the one, thanks!

[solar trout]

Also his twitch clip in the article https://clips.twitch.tv/PlayfulWimpyAntelopeHumbleLife

[hidden osprey]

I wonder which match set they quoted it in OWL

“I want to add on Custa's channel his bot says "Please do not ask about where Seagull, Rascal, or Cocco are. Custa is not allowed to discuss about it. Sorry Reddit reporters." They apparently aren't allowed to say shit either. It's kind of hilarious at this point.”
As if it couldn’t get worse

[twilit mulch]

i gave up on dallas

[glacial sleet]

geguri is streaming

[spring lintel]

I am thankful for undead giving us app this juicy drama

@glacial sleet she streams a lot and gets like 400 viewers

[glacial sleet]

ah didnt know that

[verbal roost]

have a link of the stream?

[warped axle]

I think it's twitch.tv/froguri86

Whoops that's her Overwatch name

https://www.twitch.tv/frog135

[verbal roost]

@warped axle thanks

[warped axle]

Np

Warning if you don't know Korean you may be confused

[silk linden]

so, remember when I said Shangai were gonna get their first win with geguri on the team and that articles would be written about the event and its importance for women

geguri debuts against Dallas Fuel

[whole narwhal]

Now I hope more than ever that Dragons lose

[deft valley]

lmao

[magic zinc]

On the other hand both their DPS are gone atm and thats obviously gonna influence scrims

And the new signings have to scrim for synergy too

[deft valley]

now no matter what happens we'll have some cancer from one side at least

[magic zinc]

It might be sliiiightly too soon

[deft valley]

either "omg girl player brings shanghai their first win" or "she was so hyped but they didn't even beat dallas with her kek"

but then it's the internet i'm talking about, when's the last time it didn't have any shit

[whole narwhal]

Geguri is the most overrated player though. If a guy was falsely accused of cheating no one would give a shit.

[deft valley]

some people aren't even waiting for them to lose I see

[silk linden]

Geguri's cheating accusations did have something to do with the fact that she's a woman though, that's kinda the point

Let's not pretend that female players don't get massive amounts of shit, especially in Korea

[warped axle]

I don't watch and follow Geguri because she's a woman

I watch her because she's a top tier off tank

[magic zinc]

https://twitter.com/kyky/status/974698527245811713?s=21

Kyle Souder (@KyKy)

How did a simple tweet with a clear topic get twisted into something entirely different on reddit? I love it lol

Likes

123

Twitter

Kyky please stop tweeting

[torpid charm]

Kyky, the Donald Trump of OWL when it comes to Twitter

[whole narwhal]

haha, being accused of cheating soooooooo makes it hard to play a game
Grow up

[magic zinc]

I'm sure the death threats didn't help her

Take the attention seeking somewhere else please JJJJJJJ you're just trying to get a reaction

[whole narwhal]

As if girls are the only type of people who get death threats? Lol

[silk linden]

are you dense

[rain pewter]

i thought the cheating accusations happened before the accusers found out she's a woman

or at least that's what i remember reading

[pearl stratus]

Either way everyones mostly going to care about if she's a woman. It's a shit spot to be in for her.

Shanghai wins their first game of Stage 3 against Dallas? It's because OW needs more female players, obviously!

Too many people focus on the fact she's a woman, not on the fact she plays well. It's amazingly stupid.

[rain pewter]

it happens everywhere though, not just overwatch

the inherent focus on these people because they're furthering women in e-sports, depending on how you look at it

could be inherently sexism, even though it's in good faith

[silk linden]

it's impossible not to focus on the fact that she's a woman, and it would be asinine to not even consider it. But sure it shouldn't be the only angle she's looked from

[rain pewter]

i agree

[silk linden]

but you can't just say "eh she's just another player"

[rain pewter]

you definitely have to balance those issues out, but the issues, they're staying because the current environment is the way it is

[whole narwhal]

She’s a player that got stupid news coverage that’s what

[silk linden]

I agree that she needs to be evaluated for her skills just like any other player, but she is also a key figure in esports' image to the outside world

she could be an inspiration

[whole narwhal]

Why does Overwatch “need” more female players? The reason they aren’t in OWL is because there are not many who are on that level.

[silk linden]

maybe there's a lot of wasted talent out there wasted because women see esports as such a boy's club

just like any other male dominated field

I didn't say OWL needs more female players

I'm saying the fact that they have a female player now is cool

[rain pewter]

yeah

it's "outside the norm" basically

and that gets people's interest

[silk linden]

and to pretend it's just another player pickup like any other is disingenuous

[whole narwhal]

It’s just fact that more boys play FPSs than girls

Naturally, the talent pool for male gamers is larger than the pool of female gamers

[silk linden]

yes, and that fact can change

if more women are encouraged to play fps

[grizzled mulch]

nah it is not going to change soon if people are keep harping on Geguri as if she is a unicorn from outer space.

[silk linden]

and aren't made to run away from it

[whole narwhal]

It doesn’t have to if girls just aren’t interested. We don’t have a campaign to get more women into football.

We don’t have a campaign to get more men into sewing.

[silk linden]

that's a stupid comparison my guy

football is divided by gender

[grizzled mulch]

the more people are using Geguri to beat people over the head with this topic the worst it is going to get for both sides.

[silk linden]

esports could potentially unite players of different genders

so it's like any other field or career

[whole narwhal]

Fine. There isn’t a campaign to get more women into MTG or chess.

[rain pewter]

i think people actually tried but nobody really cares because it's not popular culture for the most part

[silk linden]

but not many women decide to get into esports and fps in general because it's such a bad experience for them

[rain pewter]

in regards to the women in chess thing

[silk linden]

it's all small steps to change this unfortunate situation

[grizzled mulch]

it wont change anything unfortunately

[whole narwhal]

Little bitches can’t handle being called a bitch over a mic shouldn’t go pro

[grizzled mulch]

not until another decades or so

[whole narwhal]

grow thicker skin

[grizzled mulch]

well that went off the rail fast.

[rain pewter]

another decade is too fast i think

several, at least IMO

[grizzled mulch]

these things are generational changes

[silk linden]

seeing geguri in OWL will inspire more women to play OW and will push male players away from the mentality that all women are bad at the game, even if slightly

[rain pewter]

could even be a century or more

[grizzled mulch]

it is not going to happen now

[silk linden]

change doesn't happen overnight

so you can't call every small step meaningless

small steps are small steps

[grizzled mulch]

@silk linden it will only inspires kotaku and the likes to beat people over the head with these topics.

the fact that Geguri just want to be treat as another player

and you stressing her gender

is already undoing it

[rain pewter]

and geguri's not the first

many women who tried to go pro in esports, not just in OW but in others as well

just kept saying "pls i am just a player"

but nope

[whole narwhal]

people needing validation to share a gender with a top level player in order to feel like they can compete in a video game contest
how weak ARE people

[silk linden]

I really don't get what you guys' point is. We should just ignore that geguri is a woman? Pretend she's just like any other player?

[whole narwhal]

Yes

[silk linden]

We literally can't

[whole narwhal]

You can

[silk linden]

impossible

[grizzled mulch]

that's what she wanted

so....

[whole narwhal]

It’s possible

[limber pine]

it's not

it should be

but it's not

[silk linden]

it's not only impossible but straight up stupid to try and do

[grizzled mulch]

@limber pine unfortunately

[rain pewter]

how do i explain it?

[limber pine]

correct

[whole narwhal]

It is possible and the most reasonable course of action

[rain pewter]

it's like people consciously try to do so

but subconsciously it doesn't happen

[silk linden]

you don't make problems go away by refusing to acknowledge them

[grizzled mulch]

If Geguri wants to be treat as another player, i'll treat her as another player. I'm just simply adhering to what she wants. If you want to harp over her gender as if it is an important milestone, then you are really just going against her wish. You don't normalize something but putting 10 different lights on top of it

[hollow current]

im a bit late but @silk linden men and women are seperated in traditional sports because men are on average much stronger/bigger

size doesnt matter in esports

[silk linden]

yeah i'm not arguing against that

I agree with that

[grizzled mulch]

eh esports is still new

[hollow current]

i didnt read the whole thing so sorry if i missed something

[silk linden]

it's why I say esports are different

[grizzled mulch]

to say that esports doesn't involves physical quality is kind of ignorant

[whole narwhal]

God, Geguri might as well just disguise herself as a man since people won’t shut the fuck up about her being a woman.

[hollow current]

i barely hear anything about "OMG GEGURI IS GRILL"

[silk linden]

it doesn't involve physical prowess to the extent that would justify a division by gender

[hollow current]

i just hear people being exited about her joining

[silk linden]

let's not split hair here

[grizzled mulch]

ironically, to say that esports does not involves physical difference, is kind of playing into the old trope that people often said about video games, that it is not "a sport"

[silk linden]

bro

[whole narwhal]

Esports isnt a sport

[hollow current]

if chess is considered being a sport then i think esports should be too

[grizzled mulch]

true

but it is a bit different

at the same time

[silk linden]

do I have to retype the same thing again

[hollow current]

it really isnt

[pearl stratus]

E-sports are on the same level just about at this point, maybe a half generation behind.

[rain pewter]

@hollow current well no people aren't really pointing it out directly but i really don't think you can dismiss heightened interest precisely because of her gender

[silk linden]

"it doesn't involve physical prowess to the extent that would justify a division by gender"

[grizzled mulch]

depends, does chess requires hand eye coordination?

[silk linden]

don't be petulant

[pearl stratus]

Chess requires you to not be a moron.

Thats about it.

[hollow current]

@rain pewter ofc people are more interested since she will be the first female ever to join.

[pearl stratus]

Which is why there's so few masters.

[grizzled mulch]

@silk linden does hand eye coordination, reaction etc etc is not physical prowess then?

[whole narwhal]

However males have been tested to have an average reaction time a few milliseconds or or two faster than women. That’s pretty big.

[silk linden]

can you fucking read

[pearl stratus]

There's no determinable difference between genders for hand eye coordination.

Is his point.

There's no defensive lineman in OW.

[whole narwhal]

But you can still train your reflexes to get better and better so it isn’ta death sentence

[grizzled mulch]

which explained why CSGO females players are play at the highest level oh wait

[pearl stratus]

You don't need someone who's 6'2" runs a 40 in a few seconds and weighs 300lbs.

CSGO is mostly played by virgins.

That's why you don't get women.

[rain pewter]

uh

[pearl stratus]

😛

[hollow current]

yeah because men have more on either side, a lot of really dumb guys and a lot of really smart guys. Women are way more centered so less really talented females and less really "dumb" females

[rain pewter]

can we not go off the rail like that?

[pearl stratus]

Honestly the gender divide in CSGO mostly comes from the age of the game.

Its old as shit.

[grizzled mulch]

personally i'm just trolling at this point but considering we don't have much research on this let's hold off on the "esports does not involves enough physical prowess to justify gender division".

that's just talking points

[pearl stratus]

12 years ago the dynamics of the gaming industry was different.

[hollow current]

pretty sure theres a gender divide because the top male teams would just shit all over the top female teams

[pearl stratus]

And people coming into the industry aren't often looking to go back to an old as shit game.

[whole narwhal]

CSGO doesnt have flashy lights and girl characters so girls arent interested

[grizzled mulch]

CSGO majors actually are gender neutral btw

[pearl stratus]

CSGO is just old as shit and pays like shit.

[grizzled mulch]

none of their major competitions are close

[rain pewter]

i don't think it's just CSGO majors

[pearl stratus]

It's a poor people game.

[rain pewter]

all the major esports are gender neutral i think

[pearl stratus]

Why do you think Brazil is so good at it.

[whole narwhal]

CSGO has a stupid female only tournament for girls who are too much of cowards to go to a real tournament

[hollow current]

from what i've heard is that female cs just has shit communication

[grizzled mulch]

it is simple in CSGO really. If you good, and get qualified, then you are in. But the problem is that well, most female teams that belonged in T1 orgs get shitstomped by T4 teams

like teams that nobody knows

or cares

[whole narwhal]

But aside from that, all tournaments are open to everyone

[grizzled mulch]

so it is a vicious cycle

[silk linden]

yeah, I think Endoken pretty much ended the CSGO discussion though

[pearl stratus]

What that its old as shit and for poor people?

[grizzled mulch]

to say CSGO is old as shit and for poor people when it is still one of the T1 esport is lol

[pearl stratus]

I mean you don't have to be profitable to be popular.

[grizzled mulch]

just because Valve pretend to be an absentee dad doesn't mean that they are not raking profit from it

[silk linden]

CSGO is old. A while ago games didn't cater to women. Only men got into the game: Now games cater to women as well but CSGO is old as shit and has a core of veteran players and any woman trying to get into it now is way behind in experience. End.

[grizzled mulch]

all the license deals and such

[rain pewter]

honestly if valve wanted to multiply the prize pool by 5x they could do just that

i mean, look at dota

[grizzled mulch]

@silk linden ever heard of Team Venus?

[pearl stratus]

There's no point to.

[whole narwhal]

Ever heard of Team Siren

[pearl stratus]

DoTA makes them more money with less tournmanets.

[hollow current]

I'm a Siren

[rain pewter]

but doesn't CSGO bring them more revenue?

[whole narwhal]

I don’t see the point in female-only teams

[pearl stratus]

CSGO brings them some, not more

[whole narwhal]

I bait them out and attack them

[grizzled mulch]

@rain pewter CSGO is still a cash cow for Valve. THey just chose to focus on DOTA2

[pearl stratus]

CSGO also has a ton of stigma and bullshit attached to it.

[grizzled mulch]

not really

[pearl stratus]

Like getting people and teams banned mid tournament because their software was coded by a high school senior.

And they've never updated it.

[grizzled mulch]

that's kind of on the TO

not Valve

Valve is just raking in money from all the fees and such

and then use it toward DOTA2

[hollow current]

VAC is a perfect system

[whole narwhal]

CSGO overwatch banned for being really good at the worst sniper rifle in the game

[grizzled mulch]

maybe OWL success will make them think twice

[pearl stratus]

I doubt it.

[grizzled mulch]

right now Valve does not really need to do anything anyway

since third party ladders are a thing

just need to rake money in from crate

[pearl stratus]

Valve is huge, don't get me wrong. But not in the same public sense that Blizzard is.

[grizzled mulch]

and license

[pearl stratus]

Which is why I think Blizzard had any success with OWL at all.

[grizzled mulch]

Valve is huge in money but small in scale. They are an anomaly

[rain pewter]

it's just not possible to compete with a public entity when you're private

[pearl stratus]

I could see Valve asking the Patriots owner to come in and he'd be like "Who the fuck is Valve."

[rain pewter]

but yet valve's at their position where they are

[grizzled mulch]

I can guarantee you CSGO would be bigger if Valve did a tenth of what Blizzard did to OWL

but nah

gotta help DOTA2

[whole narwhal]

Steam revenue baybay

[rain pewter]

only one thing's certain at this point

[pearl stratus]

I think CSGO has a more defined boundary of how big it could grow though.

[rain pewter]

CSGO brings more viewers during tourneys than just about every other game

even LoL i think

nowadays anyway

[hollow current]

concurrent viewers yes but not overall

apparently LoL had 100 million viewers last major

[whole narwhal]

I doubt that it brings more views thN OVW but still
Massive viewers

[hollow current]

since it was in china

[pearl stratus]

The VoD system for OWL kills its concurrent viewers.

[rain pewter]

oh right

[pearl stratus]

OWL still wins on total views.

[hollow current]

like 90% of the viewers were chinese tho

[pearl stratus]

But people in the UK aren't staying up till 4am to watch a match.

If they have to work

[rain pewter]

only thinking about twitch, so forgot about that

[pearl stratus]

They just watch the vods later.

[grizzled mulch]

OWL can grow

because they really just started out

and already got that much number

[pearl stratus]

OWL has a bigger growth capacity than CSGO as well.

I don't see CSGO hitting a mainstream and pulling in -any- non-gamers.

[grizzled mulch]

inb4 Valve release CSGO 2

of course before Half Life 3

[whole narwhal]

God, I hate OWL but I love comp CSGO
Well, it’s what it’s. CSGO’s still big so I’ll enjoy it while I can.

[pearl stratus]

Also CSGO would end up having to change shit to even try and be public.

Terrorist and Counter Terrorist would hit the social media shitstorm in like 12 seconds.

[grizzled mulch]

change CSGO back to WW2. EZ

[whole narwhal]

And they cant change shit because then it wouldnt be csgo

people see T vs CT in the middle east
shitstorm over islamophobia

or whatever

[pearl stratus]

Personally from a viewing perspective I find CSGO boring as fuck to watch, and while OWL isn't always the hype of the world it has a better product for a general viewership.

As dumb as it sounds the bright colors etc are smart.

Way easier to market.

[whole narwhal]

Duh

80% of esports is marketing

[pearl stratus]

80% of anything is marketing.

[whole narwhal]

I like CSGO’s atmosphere though. PRO GAMER MLG HURRRRRR BUY OUR GAMER SOCKS X

[pearl stratus]

Eh I don't, honestly. Because for some reason, and this isn't on the game itself, the two Valve products bring in such a weird garbage elitism to them.

[torpid charm]

what are y'all predictions for today's games

[pearl stratus]

Like "We play DoTA2. It's so much better than all Mobas"

Yeah well "This is a Trojan. Your parents should have used it. You're a mistake."

[tight vault]

what are todays games lul

[rain pewter]

i don't think it's the products

that's just valve

[whole narwhal]

I love the elitist attitude so I have no place here lol

[pearl stratus]

I think its their community, like I said, not on the game itself.

I mean you can have an elitist attitude if its justifiable.

Neither of those two games are justified.

[torpid charm]

Glad vs. Florida, Val vs. Boston, London vs. SF? I think I'm right @tight vault

[rain pewter]

yeah i guess it's the community but how do i put this

[pearl stratus]

Florida 3-2, Boston 3-1, London 4-0.

[rain pewter]

maybe it's the brand loyalty and all that

but just bring up the word valve and that's what you get

[torpid charm]

@pearl stratus putting faith in Florida I see

[pearl stratus]

Wait.

I did not read Glad.

[tight vault]

Florida Val London

[pearl stratus]

Jesus.

Glad 3-1.

[torpid charm]

[pearl stratus]

I read Valiant for both, lmao.

I do have faith in Florida right now though.

[torpid charm]

you're good, lol

[pearl stratus]

Their DPS are playing like crazy.

Logixx earning his moob sweat with those carriers.

[rain pewter]

florida's really turned it around since the beginning of last week

probably even started before

[pearl stratus]

They've looked good since Stage 2 started.

[torpid charm]

honestly

[pearl stratus]

But the new coach put it into play.

[torpid charm]

I'm so proud

[pearl stratus]

Gladiators are good, I'm glad they woke up Houston last night. I think it actually broke the Houston funk a bit.

Glad's 5th Stage swaps were SO smart though, that was a crazy trick play that very few people were expecitng.

And it worked like a charm.

[tight vault]

[pearl stratus]

Also I don't think people realize Hydration has a T500 Lucio alt. So he's actually as qualified as Shaz/Goose for support flex.

[torpid charm]

my boys play Glad next Wednesday, I'm really hoping they can get the win

[pearl stratus]

They won't.

[torpid charm]

they could but I'm iffy about it, feelsbadman

[pearl stratus]

Fragi won't know what to do with Fissure.

If they get some of the Rein maps that's where they'll be able to hold their own more.

Because Fragi Rein > Fissure Rein.

[torpid charm]

if Eqo plays, I feel like it would help Fragi.

[pearl stratus]

But if they get better Winston maps, just rip.

I don't, for one reason. Asher and Eqo are very similar.

Their hero pools are pretty similar.

[torpid charm]

basically yeah

[pearl stratus]

But Fissure will be able to create more space for Asher than Fragi will for Eqo.

Ashers play in the last three weeks has gotten exponentially better every week that Fissure was around for him.

Phillys biggest hope is that Hydration is having an off day.

Because Asher + S4 is less scary than Asher + Hydration.

[torpid charm]

it's battle of the DPS & tank duos that day

[pearl stratus]

I think we'll see a LOT of weird flexing from the DPS.

And I'm expecting to see more Eqo tracer

To try and throw Asher off.

Since he's gone up against Carpe already

[torpid charm]

he's a pretty decent Tracer so yeah

no Carpe but it works

[pearl stratus]

His Tracer and Widow were both of a level I wasn't expecting.

It makes me sad because he benches Shadowburn with his versatility.

But thats the dangers of basically being a one/two trick in OWL.

[torpid charm]

it sucks but it's just like that

[pearl stratus]

Look at Dallas and the wall they hit because of Stinky Cheese AKM.

[unborn portal]

if you want to one/two trick go be a main tank

[pearl stratus]

If he could play -anything- other than Soldier he'd be worthwhile.

[unborn portal]

dps need to have every hero in their category on point

[pearl stratus]

Not every.

But I would say a solid 4.

[unborn portal]

hitscan or projectile

not every, but a lot

[pearl stratus]

Then you get freaks like Libero, Fleta and Birdring.

[torpid charm]

aKm's Genji makes me want to die

[pearl stratus]

Who have like...

8-9.

Libero trending more towards like.. 12.

[torpid charm]

like ya I understand y'all wanna give the man time to practice Genji but it hurt everybody

[pearl stratus]

I just want to know why.

[unborn portal]

they sign a genji player and put him on soldier

[pearl stratus]

And I get that Kyky won't tell anyone.

[unborn portal]

and the soldier player on genji

[pearl stratus]

But you're not helping all the rumors about AKM signing his contract with a minutes played/starter clause.

[unborn portal]

XD

[pearl stratus]

Because it just looks more and more like thats true.

[torpid charm]

since Shanghai is missing players left and right then they've been flexing everyone, it's like a game of mystery heroes

[pearl stratus]

Especially when you factor in that Kyky didn't want to sign him, but Hastr0 forced it.

I like that out of Shanghai though.

Its what they need to do.

[torpid charm]

same

[pearl stratus]

They need to just try shit till something works.

Like MG on Tracer.

Was actually not horrible.

MG on Roadhog? Actually super good.

[torpid charm]

when MG's Tracer is better than his D.va even thought he's tank boi

[pearl stratus]

Undead has all his baby mama drama going on now, like wtf.

[magic zinc]

No DPS for Shanghai rip

[torpid charm]

nah he's Undad now

[pearl stratus]

That was confusing as hell to read.

Undead making xQc look normal, balancing out the league.

[torpid charm]

it was too wild

and tbh in the Fusion discord, someone has been mentioning the whole woman drama with Undead for a minute and now here it is

[pearl stratus]

Yeah, though he's not a real sports star till there's domestic violence.

Gotta step up to those NFL big leagues.

[torpid charm]

OH BOY

that would be too wild

but honestly I love for OWL drama, well sports drama in general

[warped axle]

[rain pewter]

wait, domestic violence?

undead actually hit the girls?

[torpid charm]

noooo

they were just saying, no domestic violence

@warped axle

[pearl stratus]

No he didn't.

[rain pewter]

oh right

i can't read

[pearl stratus]

I'm saying if he wants to be a real professional, like in the NFL, he's got to though.

[warped axle]

Philly going to sack Dallas tomorrow

[pearl stratus]

Honestly Undead just reads as a really shitty person in the story, and she reads as dumb as rocks.

So its a very Jerry Springer sort of situation.

[torpid charm]

honestly

Maury of the OWL

[rain pewter]

i am actually interested in finding out just how many more girls undead has on the side

could be more than 3? at least if i counted right from the stories

[pearl stratus]

Eh I don't even care. I thought it'd be better drama.

But all in all its kind of boring.

Also the girls story reads like she's in one of those teen movies like Swimfan where she was a crazy ass stalker.

Doesn't mean she deserved to get cheated on, but still.

[tight vault]

shanghai #1

[torpid charm]

China #1

[idle beacon]

lol whats going on? 😄

what happeend?

[tight vault]

idk

[torpid charm]

I can't wait till Shanghai wins so I can buy a skin for them

[idle beacon]

so what did undead do?

and who's the new tank for fuel ?

i haven't followed OWL this week

[tight vault]

um

have you seen the results of matches yet or

[idle beacon]

no

[tight vault]

you want me to tell you them?

[idle beacon]

i only remember fissure and crew eatin up spitfire

and mayhem gotten better

but that's it

[tight vault]

Boston Uprising 4-0 against Dallas Fuel

[idle beacon]

and?

[tight vault]

New York 3-2 Seoul Dynasty

[idle beacon]

nothing spectacular so far

[tight vault]

Philly 4-0 Shanghai

[idle beacon]

lol

[tight vault]

New York 4-0 Shanghai

Florida 3-1 LA val

LA Gladiators 3-2 Houston

[idle beacon]

mayhem beaten val? not bad, eh

[tight vault]

and thats it

la gladiators vs florida today 😛

[silk linden]

ok are people in the OWL literally afraid of breathing at this point https://gladiators.overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/statement-head-coach-david-dpei-pei

it's become like a dystopian catholic school

[solar trout]

lol

Sorry for walking into you. Thought I'd make it formal

[silk linden]

1k$ fine 3 months ban washington post article

wait r/OverwatchTMZ is an actual subreddit

why the hell am I not subbed to it yet

why didn't anyone tell me

[idle beacon]

LOOOOOOOOOOL

[dusk garden]

hey where can i find the stage standings?

[scarlet spear]

in the pins

[dusk garden]

i meant online

[torpid charm]

Liquipedia

[magic zinc]

Thats some top-tier banter

[deft valley]

pins are online

[magic zinc]

Wait a second

...that apology isn't satire?

what the hell

[deft valley]

who knows anymore tbh

[magic zinc]

The fact that we cant tell for sure is kinda fucked

[slim summit]

Valiant vs Boston should be fun

[warped axle]

Will Valiant get upset again

Probably not Boston aren't looking too great

[pearl stratus]

Honestly the fact that its on their site and nowhere else makes me believe that he probably thought about it later and was like 'Oh shit, I hope they don't think I was being a dick' so he just posted it.

Like when you tell a story/joke then find out later someone had something similar happen, so you apologize just to make sure they knew you weren't being a dick.

[tawny sigil]

what shit happened now?

[pearl stratus]

Nothing real.

LAG coach was in his head after match walking to the back.

And walked into some Houston players.

So he apologized.

That's literally it.

The Muma shade towards Mendo was more drama.

[tawny sigil]

and he's getting expelled for it?

[ruby pendant]

no

[pearl stratus]

"Free Mendo? Maybe we'll free Mendo when he starts showing up for scrims. How about that?"

[scarlet spear]

mendo and muma explained that shit in comments

not really any drama either

[pearl stratus]

Yeah.

I just love his tone for it.

Such a YAAAAAAAAAS QUEEN Tone at people spamming like idiots.

[hidden osprey]

Lmao what the fuck is this

apologising for bumping into some players?

April Fool's day is a little while away yet

[ruby pendant]

Moh, it happens

[shy wind]

Jakes been pretty good with tracer

recently

[ruby pendant]

Don't want people to think negatively, and ruin your image.

[hidden osprey]

yeah, it does, you usually apologise to them there and then

not make a public statement saying, oh, I bumped into X Y Z

no need to make a mountain out of a molehill

[pearl stratus]

He didn't mention names, and its also a matter of how hard of a bump it is. The public apology is confusing, but better to be safe than sorry.

As you grow up you learn that CYA is the most important principle in life.

And if you don't do it, you're a fool.

Always remember CYA.

[hidden osprey]

what kind of safe space is OWL harbouring that you need to publically apologise for bumping into someone that probably happens to thouands of people everyday?

I bumped into someone in the supermarket today, I said sorry and went about my life

This is just sheer stupidity

[slim summit]

lol

[pearl stratus]

Okay, cool. From my aisle over I saw that you knocked down a pregnant woman and swore at her.

[hidden osprey]

that's libel though

[pearl stratus]

No its not. Burden of proof and cameras that don't show sound.

[slim summit]

that's why i never go within 12 feet of a pregnant woman

[ruby pendant]

lol

[hidden osprey]

That implies its a he said she said situation

[pearl stratus]

It's pure hyperbole but either way its a 15 second action of CYA for no reason.

Also he might have railed the kid.

We don't know.

I've bumped into people and floored them if I'm in a rush and not paying attention.

[hidden osprey]

again, happens to people all the time IRL if they're not paying attention

[pearl stratus]

So he spends 15 seconds, and covers his ass.

[warped axle]

I never pay attention to out of game affairs honestly.

[ruby pendant]

Moh, you want to eliminate negative word of mouth. There's not much reason to take a risk. You're correct, you can apologize then and there, but there's no harm in making a public statement.

[warped axle]

I think it's an echo chamber

[pearl stratus]

Also they're in e-sports.

[ruby pendant]

Especially if you're a coach in a new league. Don't want any negative publicity.

[hidden osprey]

sounds more and more like that OWL is a concentration camp if people are scared of being punished for bumping into someone

[pearl stratus]

So they probably know about the LoL controversy of the tournament about alleged pushing backstage.

Since they get access to media coaches.

[ruby pendant]

@hidden osprey LOL

[pearl stratus]

If no one remembers this stupidity: https://twitter.com/clerkie/status/848333011040952320

eU dangerboy (@clerkie)

Michael Artress pushed Gilius in the hallway after game 2

Riot said they will be looking at the tapes.

That's the TLDR

Likes

156

Twitter

[hidden osprey]

I really want to see that rule book even more now

someone pls leak

[ruby pendant]

@pearl stratus Wow

[pearl stratus]

Yeah turns out?

[slim summit]

lol

[pearl stratus]

He just bumped into him in the hallway.

[slim summit]

yeah OWL is a concentration camp

xQc is lucky to have escaped

[pearl stratus]

People are so used to be whiny anti-SJW they don't take their heads out of their asses.

Don't understand how half the world breathes.

[limber pine]

quick

give me your picks for tonight

[hidden osprey]

no

[limber pine]

pretty please

[hidden osprey]

if you give me a cherry ontop

sure

[slim summit]

Mayhem, Shock, Boston

[pearl stratus]

Glad, Boston, London.

[hidden osprey]

Gladiators, Spitfire, Valiant

[pearl stratus]

You think the Shock can beat london?

What alternate universe are you from. XD

[slim summit]

I'm from the universe where Mayhem just beat Valiant

[hidden osprey]

I say Valiant because their performance is so inconsistent but I feel like they'll win

[pearl stratus]

Valiant which has been all over the map Stage 2 in consistency

Versus the most consistent team in the league arguably.

[hidden osprey]

but they are also playing a team with the 3rd least wins

[magic zinc]

I'm with Moh on this one

[pearl stratus]

Sorry, my comments was more towards Easymac and the London vs. Shock thing.

Since he qouted Florida beating Valiant.

*quoted.

I think Boston / Valiant can go either way, personally. I just think Boston has been on an upswing while Valiant have been on a rollercoaster.

[slim summit]

London is always losing very winnable fights, maps, and series

[pearl stratus]

Though Shock is free to play Sinatraa the rest of the stage

Since they don't play NYXL.

I actually think the Glad Florida game is going to be 3-1 or 3-2. I don't think it'll be an 0-4.

But Fissure will out tank Cwoosh and just give his DPS more room to play.

[torpid charm]

Shock's new support will be playing today hopefully

[pearl stratus]

Moth? Yeah, it'll be an interesting change but I wonder who they'll replace.

Sleepy has actually been pretty solid lately, so maybe they'll rotate Dhak over to just a Lucio main when they need it.

On a complete tangent.

I want more streams of Effects cat.

He's officially the best member of Dallas Fuel.

[hidden osprey]

Moth

[pearl stratus]

If anyone hasn't seen: https://clips.twitch.tv/AnnoyingVibrantLasagnaTebowing

That's hilarious.

Cocco dies to a Tracer because of Effect's cat.

[spring lintel]

Wow tonights matches are residentsleeper

[limber pine]

----------------------------------------------------
Stage 2 - Week 4 of the Overwatch League live in 10 minutes!

DAY 3 MATCHES:
4 PM PST: Los Angeles Gladiators vs Florida Mayhem
6 PM PST: London Spitfire vs San Francisco Shock
8 PM PST: Los Angeles Valiant vs Boston Uprising

Join #esports-discussion for live chat of the games!

Watch live at:
🇬🇧 https://www.twitch.tv/overwatchleague

Full schedule:
🗓 https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule

[hidden osprey]

we're already here

are you ok bot

[magic zinc]

BotGuy

[pearl stratus]

Spritebot

[ruby pendant]

Gladiators take it

[magic zinc]

Its okay he'a a mod that means he has no feelings 4Head

Jk Spriteguy ily no ban

pls no 1k fine

I'll release a statement if I must

[ruby pendant]

???

[pearl stratus]

Time to stab thousands of rat people while watching OW.

[tawny sigil]

taze em, more topical

[torpid charm]

I can't even watch most of tonight's matches, very mad

[ruby pendant]

@torpid charm too scared?

[rustic perch]

busted

[worn falcon]

betting for mayhem

[torpid charm]

uuuh, no I'm babysitting most of the night so I'll only be able to watch the last match @ruby pendant

[slim summit]

these signs are so dumb

where do they get them? the dumb sign store?

[rustic perch]

it was funny

now its just a dead thing

trying too hard to get into a video

"your profile picture is a dab dude" wait i can explain

[worn falcon]

No, you can't >: (

[rustic perch]

fight me, right here

[tawny sigil]

this is gonna gonne be a mind fuck if mayhem wins

[young sonnet]

👋 my dudes

[slim summit]

i detest these obligatory high fives

[rustic perch]

my nibba

[worn falcon]

I kinda miss their meme entrances

[torpid charm]

I'll see y'all during Val and Boston

[slim summit]

what are you supposed to do

not high five people

and look like a dick

[tawny sigil]

they're just spreading germs

[fallow raven]

g l a d i a t o r s

[rustic perch]

wait wrong match

[tawny sigil]

and they wonder why there is always someone that's sick

[fallow raven]

h u ge g a m e

[slim summit]

How to beat the Los Angeles Gladiators:

1. Kill Fissure

that's it, that's all the steps

[serene tendon]

this is going really well for florida

[torpid charm]

m u r d e r F i s s u r e

[fallow raven]

good start for FLA

killing fissure is easier said than done

unless he misplays like that last push

they're killing asher though

[young sonnet]

TVIQ

[ruby pendant]

Mayhem got a lot better

[silk linden]

Imagine being iRemix. You get replaced by a korean and suddenly your team goes from bottom 4 to top tier

[slim summit]

lol

[pearl cedar]

Mccree is so good on point 2

[undone wigeon]

SHIELDS UP BOIZ

[dusk garden]

do you guys think mayhem is a stage playoff contender for stage 3?

[young sonnet]

could be

[ruby pendant]

yeah

They been playing a lot better, #5 best team

[dusk garden]

so basically if we dont want the stage 2 playoffs to be a korean fight we need spitfire to lose tomorrow and glads to win a 2 or all of their upcoming games

i might be wrong

but i think its right

[rustic perch]

just for the sake of entertainment, korean matches are fine

but it's sad to see the same 3 (korean) teams on top, again, and again

[dusk garden]

thats true

no pls

no

mayhem

i luv u pls let glads win

[young sonnet]

Can't blame the players for being good though?

[slim summit]

what a hold

[dusk garden]

O THANK GOD

[undone wigeon]

GOD DAMN

Glads are just scrappy

[dusk garden]

OH

WOW

YES

[undone wigeon]

jesus

thats twice

[young sonnet]

My mans mayhem choking over here

[undone wigeon]

two times I could have SWORN they had second point

[dusk garden]

OH

YES

PLS

weait

NO

fuck

[undone wigeon]

wow

[brisk roost]

LETS GO MAYHEM

[undone wigeon]

what a match

[young sonnet]

3rd time lucky

[dusk garden]

i love mayhem but i really dont want spitfire to make it into the playoffs

so im cheering for glads

[drowsy fulcrum]

@dusk garden what do you have against Spitfire lmao

[dusk garden]

i mean

3 korean teams in the playoffs

its a bit boring

[muted fox]

I just want to see the best teams play

[drowsy fulcrum]

^^

NYXL, Seoul and London are the best teams

[young sonnet]

other teams should get better then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silk linden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/84znlq/slasher_dpei_initiated_enough_physical_contact/

[drowsy fulcrum]

they deserve the playoff spots

[muted fox]

Nationality means exactly 0

[dusk garden]

koreans are op pls nerf

[slim summit]

Seoul is gonna fall out of the playoffs

just like last stage

[lethal plank]

I hope so

[slim summit]

and then Glads will lose to London in round 1 again

[muted fox]

feels bad cause I love seoul

[lethal plank]

i hate Seoul

[slim summit]

like Houston did last stage

[dusk garden]

nah man

seoul is good in this meta

i dont think theyll choke

[rustic perch]

seoul is love

[slim summit]

it's not choking

[dusk garden]

it all went downhill for houston when mercy got nerfed

[young sonnet]

nutty widow plays

[slim summit]

they just haven't played any good teams this stage

[brisk roost]

If Mayhem wins this then they're the best team

[slim summit]

they have to play Houston, NYXL, and London yet

[dusk garden]

uh

[slim summit]

how many will they win

1?

probably not 2

[dusk garden]

they played nyxl yesterday

[slim summit]

Seoul?

oh yeah

[dusk garden]

theyre playing london tomorrow

yes

[slim summit]

and lost

[brisk roost]

At this point Houston vs Seoul could be one sided asf

Unlike last time where it was really close

[drowsy fulcrum]

Florida is probably my favourite team apart from my home team

[serene tendon]

asher got fucking BOPPED

[brisk roost]

Lmao seems like Glads are sucking at Volskaya lately

[undone wigeon]

Glads suck at volskaya first point

[drowsy fulcrum]

Lmao seems like Glads are sucking at Volskaya lately

[undone wigeon]

They’re much better at second point

[drowsy fulcrum]

I feel like they busted a nut too hard at beating London

and now they have no more nut

[brisk roost]

True

[dusk garden]

anyways im just gonna cheer on for glads cuz theyre an actual good western team out of the mercy meta

[brisk roost]

Hence why they lost to Houston last night on Volskaya lmfao

[molten skiff]

lol

[undone wigeon]

@drowsy fulcrum know what the solution to that is?? hydration

[molten skiff]

teleporters used to exist

[rustic perch]

outta here

[undone wigeon]

self five

[dusk garden]

houstons problem is kinda like boston, where they were really good last stage but they kinda went downhill this stage

[drowsy fulcrum]

mayhem's logo is unironically the best btw

[dusk garden]

its mcdonalds

is best

[drowsy fulcrum]

did they unironically use the term bumrush

nice

[undone wigeon]

Im lovin it

[dusk garden]

wtf

suredad

[ruby pendant]

lol mercy

[dusk garden]

WOO

[undone wigeon]

SUREFORE

[serene tendon]

damn that was nutty

[brisk roost]

SUREFOUR BRUH

[fallow raven]

sureefourrr

[undone wigeon]

BRUH

[slim summit]

oops

[fallow raven]

s4

[young sonnet]

👀

[dusk garden]

DAD IS BEST

[pearl cedar]

lets FUCKING gooo

[wide basin]

What the fuck is Surefour

Lordy

[fallow raven]

S U R E F O U R

[pearl cedar]

Nastyyyyy

[wide basin]

Come on Mayhem

[pearl cedar]

what a time to go off

[brisk roost]

He's the damn Surefour

[dusk garden]

S U R E D A D

[slim summit]

no fissure = draw guaranteed

[dusk garden]

gg

draw

[rustic perch]

2cp

[wide basin]

Thank fuck

[young sonnet]

[drowsy fulcrum]

how is that a draw tho

[brisk roost]

WOW WHAT A DRAW

[dusk garden]

2cp

[pearl cedar]

Draw, but what an insane widow performance

[fallow raven]

damnnnn

[drowsy fulcrum]

30% for Florida

[pearl cedar]

from both Logix AND surefour

[drowsy fulcrum]

0% for Gladiators

still draw

[pearl cedar]

just shows how close

[young sonnet]

👏 2CP

[pearl cedar]

the best widows are

[fallow raven]

draw is going to hurt Glad if it comes down to map differential for stage 2 playoffs

[ruby pendant]

Nice, games should be this way

[drowsy fulcrum]

that Slow-Mo BAP

[sweet hamlet]

FLORIDA POGGERS

[lethal plank]

florida shoulda won that ;;

[wide basin]

That Logix hit on Asher was ridiculous

[pearl cedar]

That Flick on Asher was pretty sexy

not gonna lie

Melee instant reaction

pro widows are fucking insane LOL

[rustic perch]

he just got lucky there, no way you can have SUCH a reaction

[pearl cedar]

Naw he knew asher was hunting him

[muted fox]

happy to see that more and more teams are giving us good games

[pearl cedar]

asher tried twice and almost killed him both times

[rustic perch]

yea he knew the direction

but still, lucky

[pearl cedar]

so he had some awarenesss of where he'd be

[lethal plank]

florida looks really good today

[paper crag]

florida just looking good this whole week lol

[young sonnet]

40-9 oof

[pearl cedar]

Florida lookin like MISFITS once again

[wide basin]

We've been looking good this week

[ruby pendant]

Mayhem tanks and support have stepped up big

[muted fox]

Something has clicked for them since stage 2

[pearl cedar]

im a gladiators fan

[wide basin]

And last week we gave the Spitfire some trouble too

[pearl cedar]

but im happy to see their players do so well

[slim summit]

"what if we try to win guys? nobody has ever prepared to play against us, maybe we'll surprise them"

[pearl cedar]

26% crit acc

get the FUCK out

LOL

[slim summit]

"nah we're the meme team let's keep nailing our walk out game boiiii"

[grizzled kayak]

did cwoosh actually go 40-9?

[drowsy fulcrum]

I love Mayhem so fucking much ng

[grizzled kayak]

holy fricc

[drowsy fulcrum]

best US team

London obviously the best

[paper crag]

mayhem actually being mayhem for teams that didn't take them seriously

[drowsy fulcrum]

England is my city and all that guff

[paper crag]

but weren't good enough to take them as a joke

i mean, ny and seoul can probably stiill beat mayhem handily even on their best day

that wasn't a sour moment though

[rustic perch]

now THAT's a sellout

[foggy quail]

the biggest decision nyxl or souel ana skin

soeul

[drowsy fulcrum]

he attacc

he protecc

but most importantly

no respecc

[dusk garden]

HYDRATION P O P P I N G O F F

fuck

wait

is my discord broken

either that or im talking to myself

[tawny sigil]

funny thing about draw is it almost count like a win to the team with a win

still no double draw in the entire season

[brisk roost]

My Discord got broken too

[dusk garden]

we back?

[brisk roost]

Yeah

[dusk garden]

coo

[brisk roost]

I thought I got kicked out

[grizzled kayak]

wait what

[dusk garden]

same lol

b a n n e d

[wide basin]

Thought it was just me. Perfect

[brisk roost]

Yeah I think everyone got threw out for a bit

[hidden osprey]

wut happened

[dusk garden]

discord had a power outage apparently

[hidden osprey]

o

[drowsy fulcrum]

"Hydration has had a miserable existance so far" - life of a Gladiators player

[tawny sigil]

was wondering why it was so silent, didn't happen to me

[grizzled kayak]

"Miserable existence"

NA Brazilian

[dusk garden]

mayhem op pls nerf

[hidden osprey]

was first map 0-0?

[brisk roost]

Ye

[drowsy fulcrum]

THATS A LOTTA DAMAGE

[hidden osprey]

o

[drowsy fulcrum]

@hidden osprey 3-3

[hidden osprey]

o

[wide basin]

YES

[grizzled kayak]

1-0

[hidden osprey]

did I miss much

[brisk roost]

LETS GO MAYHEM

[undone wigeon]

fuuuuuuu

[indigo barn]

GLAD AINT SHIT

[dusk garden]

cmon glads pls reverse sweep

[grizzled kayak]

1-0 for mayhem

[young sonnet]

FeelsGood

[indigo barn]

UNDERDOGS RISE

[muted fox]

1-0 mayhem and first map was a draw

[brisk roost]

Nah Florida is risin

[drowsy fulcrum]

@hidden osprey the entirety of mayhem will return with black eyes

[undone wigeon]

Hydration is just getting worked.

[drowsy fulcrum]

Zuppeh will be crying

[limber pine]

MAYHEM RISE AGAIN

[wide basin]

Wtf was that Halt

[lethal plank]

WOO MAYHEM

[drowsy fulcrum]

the anger of dpei has arrived

[brisk roost]

Mayhem actually defeated Valiant lmao

[hidden osprey]

🇲🇨

[paper crag]

DRUG TEST FLORIDA

[grizzled kayak]

that halt lmao

[dusk garden]

y'all want an all korean stage 2 playoffs ok

[indigo barn]

hell no