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well
mannaten is one of the best roadhogs in the league
but zappis is very good zarya/dva
and also can flex to tracer really well
Wow, Fissure died and LAG was like "ROLL OUT. ROLL OUT."
Poor rawk. That's why you don't spam jump
"fuck our carry died"
welp
who knew all outlaws had to do was let the tracer player play tracer
Double C9
dbl bomb dbl blade
Pretty insane, i was almost sure that FL was gonna get 4-0'd, definitely gonna have to watch that game whenever it gets put up
if only dallas would let their genji players play genji
It's more than just Clockwork, Linkzr is on his game today too and he's been really weird lately.
Rascal when Fuel
And Muma and Coolmatt seem much more in sync than the last two weeks.
#wheresrascal
YO GLADS ARE NEAR THE SPAWN
That ambush.
Aggressive af

WHAT IS DIS
LAG watched the Seoul vs. NYXL game.
mhm
SHIELDS UP!
And learned from the SBB+Libero.

SHIELDS fucking upp
DESTROY THE SHIELDS BOIS
holyy
channeling their inner NYXL
rip
that was nice
They weren't expecting that shit!!!!
Muma was waiting for him
If you saw on Surefours screen
damnn
He got detected.
if boink didnt see that, gg
s4 owned
rip surefour lmao
he was detected yea
Jebaited
LETS GO OUTLAWS ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
Yeah but the way Boink turned around and booped.
Blinkzr

DESTROY THE SHIELDS BOIS
Makes me think he knew he was coming over there.
boink turned around because s4 invis ended like .5 secs before he got to the door
and boink prob heard it

FISSURE

CANT BLADE THROUGH THIS SHIE:D
poggers
Bischu Poggers
EMP
that nuke
hot damn
i want that replay
"no emp" - gets to full charge in like 15 seconds
casters are bronze af for missing it
damn
this is like a twitch that i can actually see what people say
very nice
winston lmao
Linkzr with the smart swap
FUCKING 2CP AAAH
bischu had a seizure on dva lol
noooooooooooooooo
YEEES
r.i.p houston
LETS FKING GOOOO
gg

FUCK YEAH!!!
M LUL MA
jeez

Reaper is the Sombra counter, basically.
that reaper pick won them that
wtf is that mei switch
He shot through all them shields
yep that was very smart, that reaper saved the game
SHIELDS AINT SHIT BOY
Shaz shoulda stayed on hog imo

if shaz stays on roadhog he could stop the blossom


Its okay I got faith in the glads โค
yo why does last minute reaper always work?
I hope houstons back
close as fuck
Damn!!! That was intense!!!

Mei is technically one of the better picks for that last point, but he swapped before Reaper showed up.
So I think he was already Mei when Linkzr returned with Reaper.
yo gimme dat sht
And probably went "Shit. Should have stayed hog."
yep
Fissure was the start of that though.
By jumping off the map.
When he actually probably could have gotten away from CLockwork.
But thats hindsight.
@indigo barn Just copy the gyazo link I sent
He trader didn't he?
he was pretty damn low
traded*
@brisk roost thanksm an
Yeah np
Use that everytime we beat the Glads
hell yeah baby
And jumped off rather than die to the Tracer.
But Clockwork had used all three dashes.
dont let ur ego get in the weay amirite
So he probably could have lived.
Yep
oh right
fissure is using aimbot
ikr
his tracking with winston is insane
Did you see the post about Fissure/Miro/Mano?
The three Winstons who can do more damage per jump ult than any other winston?
ye
Because theres this tiny ass window where you can melee.
the winston tech?
And they're the only ones who can do it, lmao
I've been stuck on 30 bits for the past four days
I tried to recreate it
only need 20 more for my next team icon ;-;
it's so fucking hard
ive done it once but i havent mastered the timing
I was getting it maybe.. 40% of the time, at most.
set up a macro
If they were against a wall I was a lot more successful than if it was in the open.
no one will know
I have no clue how they do it all the time.
I love Fissures smack talk.
Because its so innoncent, but so much shade.
lol
That's how you shit talk, btw.
cocky fissure
I wouldn't even say Fissure is cocky.
taimoue gonna show him up
He's really that good.
lol
His god damn stream after the LAG London game though
jake ๐ฐ
Jake gunna ruin everything
๐ HELLO LOS ANGELES
๐ THIS IS LONDON
๐ CAN WE HAVE FISSURE BACK?
hydration hell yeah
Oh no jake in
time to watch hydration wreck jake
jake of all trades 
if fissure is the best tank
Nah I'm okay with them showing some shade at Jake.
lets see if hydration pulls out doomfist
who is main tank for london?
gesture i think
muma sym when
gesture yea
stop teasing me muma
yikes Linkzr
Gesture is more because of his sync with his off-tank. Even the better tank is worse when you're not on point with your off tank.
Godzr
J LUL KE
hes a meme
fissure wat
I'm losing faith in Jake
He was about to be de'meched so he lobbed it to try and make space and get remeched.
a lot of ults thrown out
It wasn't a bad play for Bischu
he still had 300hp
J
K E
he wasnt about to get demeched
and the enemy team was on the other side of the middle barrier
he was fine
fissure was still insanely close to making it out alive lol
asher popping hard
that was close
FIssure respawned 5 seconds too early, lol
lol asher
idk how korean tracers can hit lucios so well
when i aim at lucios
i do like 25% dmg per clip
@paper crag Yeah felt bad for him
If Fissure was delayed at all that was a different fight
What an insane round
J
KE
lucio might as well have just stood still
damn bruh u are str8 on fissures dick @pearl stratus
hes good but so are all of the rest of the gladiators
give credit where credits due
lol fear
Are you not watching the same game? He made it back to the point at the right time.
Haha
asher got like 4 picks when they were down 2 people bro
lol
thats why they won the last engage
that they should have lost
jake lul
lul
lol cocky
a fan of jake or an xqc bitchboy
jake lmao
i used to hate his cockiness but its grown on me
Its the best way to shit talk.
These commentators suck, they always seem to get contradicted by what happens in the game
rip fissure
rip fisher
5 ults on glads tho
almost 6
FISSURE 
ouch
These Soldier plays keep happening!!
how highly regarded is muma?
Very
Muma is considered to be a top tank
okay
But he's not making plays today at all
his rein isnt as good as some others tho
he's also gay
Junkrat still broken as ever
jakerat back lol
What is fissure doing
i wish surefour was in to play zarya on control center
what's the origin of this "jake in your house" meme
assuming outlaws win this
@paper crag https://clips.twitch.tv/IcyJoyousBeefM4xHeh
yoo lets go hydration on doomfist
DOOMFIST
wew
love that man
thanks @hidden osprey
np
my favorite one to watch
this is so aggressive
THE BOOP
damn that boop
THE CLUTCH BOOP
this is nutty
Pls lose glads
what a boop
too bad Houston had the point this whole time
like one team may have an individually better tank but a weaker duo right?
god damn
asher amazing
they should play Junkrat too
those are some insane flicks
This is entertaining af
hes lookin like the OG taimou
Fissure good too
DINK DINK DINK
WE GOTTA REAL JAM GOIN NOW
Doomfist!!
i love hydration
bischu needs more energy
oh well
Fatty shatty
thats the 3rd tire that bischu has saved shaz from
or biggoose
really good bubble management
rip shatter
lol
SPACE JAM almost ready
jeez
Fissure is a god tier Tank
gg
damn
this match is crazy

doomfist was nutty
โค
fissure honestly just dunked on muma
It's decent, not as crazy as yesterday's NYXL match
lets be real
Fissure fucked muma
hydration is always nutty on df
out rein;d.
I guess you could say he gave him a... fissure
if jake had better tires they probably could have won
out main tank'd
Muma needs to step it up, usually the star player
i wish i could follow individual players' screens
Hydration
Shaz
Goose
each of these guys makes a play in the round
to keep their team in it
so goood
all 6 of them are super consistent
Fissure went from playing very poor on the second map of lijang to blocking all ults on the third one 
linkzr zarya not even 4000 dmg. trash confirmed
and its very difficult to play rein into a hard dive
he got to pull out his godly rein
Not hard to block them whenmuma shatters when his shield is up
Every time I see the gladiators play my love for them grows more than I love the NYXL...

Glads mann
waiting for fissure's cardd
lol
9 ult kills from jake
the potg theme is pretty hype
hes tryin
i should put it in my running music list
and listen to it when i'm tired
or ana's nano boost voiceline
not that it'll do anything ๐ฆ
busteddd
#LetMcCreeRideOrisa
Let McCree ride Orisa
i saw that lmao
The strat is to bait Rawkus out for Fissure
fissure can't resist a tasty zen
throwing shade at jake and clockwork
watch muma vs Fissure is so fun
hey atleast he gets a nice pre warmth
They should have kept asher in, he made a couple of game saving plays.
muma with the symmetra
muma is a sym main
jakehog ๐
ugh this is bad
they need to switch some stuff up

uuuuuuh
spree
uuuuuuuh
heey uuuuh
Oh wow I walk away to take care of a few errands and come back to a 1-1 hhmmmm
OUch
trapped lol
wow that was close to a FULL hold
not even just full hold lol
fissure looks like an evil bischu
shields fucking upp

so happy to see how far the glads have come
even if they lose this set, id be proud of the performance
hydration playing hero 29
aww he switched to genji
shimada bros
nope just sonic arrow
torbjorn is the name of the turret though
@pearl cedar true that. Fissure was a huge contribution to the favorable results that we're seeing.
Haha the caster...
hydration pls
"Sorry , not going to happen.."
LOL
rofl..classic
Sheilds Up Baby
Nice job LA

how did he charge up emp that fast
because sombra was broken
Hydration melted them lol..poor Rein
with health pack healing
yeah but i didnt see anyone from glad going back and taking it
That was destruction
obv they had someone if she gained it that quick
i wonder if houston even saw sombra before she emped?
houston dun fked up
houston best poke team worlds ever seen
doesnt get sht done
most stupid grav
It's funny because LAG used the Outlaws strat that they used in Stage 1 to full hold KR
oh right they did wtf
Freefeel
FiveKing
uNdeAD
mg
Roshan
Xushu
Altering
937 7 29 18
874 5 22 14
828 20 30 15
774 14 22 9
714 3 18 7
688 9 24 4
666 1 11 4
Mano
JJoNak
Saebyeolbe
MekO
janus
ArK
Libero
1495 31 7 7
1490 22 7 20
1372 36 8 25
1291 28 8 0
1176 6 5 5
1146 2 10 16
1031 29 14 14
JJoNak/Zenyatta: 1516 Rating
S โค E
Sheilds up 

"fissure has done really well coming into gladiators"
"yeah I'm glad he's come"
was that a pun
JAKE
lmao they just fucking let him back cap
C9
is jake a junkrat one trick
not really
Logix
Zebbosai
Zuppeh
TviQ
CWoosH
zappis
Manneten
1228 49 15 26
1099 7 22 23
1066 19 26 16
913 36 34 18
900 15 28 18
835 2 4 0
734 19 24 1
Agilities
SoOn
Kariv
Envy
Verbo
uNKOE
FaTe
1197 42 16 14
1085 38 21 31
1017 12 14 12
955 26 19 0
912 1 16 10
880 9 31 19
792 21 32 16
Logix/Tracer: 1368 Rating
TviQ as Genji on Route 66: 4 Kills
haha melt them ...
YEEA'
darn..
THE HORNS ARE OUT
๐ค
insane how much a good widow does to stall a game
holy moley, I was just looking at pro overwatch player gear/settings - Geguri does a full 360 turn with 3.6 inches(9.1cm) of movement
the quality looks kinda garb to me rn
Hydration being Jakecist
OUTLAWS! SHIELDS UP!
ah ty frozen
LOL yea..mystery heros haha
fissure softly tickling linkzr to death
Outlaws are gonna turn into a fucking meme
Fuck me
what is this fucking qp match
Just hold LA..come on...
this is gonna be the meme of the season for OWL
what is going on
This match i swear lmao
"I get it now"
niicee Fiissuureee
It's not too bad of a comp
^
Shaz mains dps on ladder pretty sure
What is this game what the fuckkk
he plays loads of genji
That stick tho
MUMA POGGERS
muma so good
Muma bully good 
And Fissure comes to save the day?
HYDRATION?
damn

man this sucks
AUGUGHGHG
OMG
GG
Great stuff
I think hydration hopped onto point because overtime was gonna burn down fast at that point btw rectio
GG's
Wow very nice series
Mystery heroes comp > actual comp
holy fuckkk
FUCKME
gg
Total Meme

Well played..
Hydration4bestBoops
THIS IS THE OWL MEME OF THE SEASON
GET THE JAKE OUT.... PG/G version.
i am so sorry houston
Shaz can play tracer...better than jake?
That is gonna be such a meme
Very exciting match...
a support?
FUK dude
coach givin out hugs like "You fuckin memed them good"
Shaz got to show some of his dps potential
thats gonna fukin sting
Iโm so proud
Shaz is incredibly flexible
Shaz just added to his portfolio
Fissure tho... man what a saving grace for LAGlads
"I shit on jake in owl as a support player"
^
-better tracer player than jake as a support
๐ g ๐ l ๐ a ๐ d ๐ i ๐ a ๐ t ๐ o ๐ r ๐ s
LA Glads = Ego diffusing task force team ... well done
even glads support does better dps than j lul ke 
Fuck off tho shaz jfc
wOW
HOW AMAZINGLY ASTONISHING
WOW
facepalm i feel bad for houston right now
That's gotta sting
houston ain't going playoffs
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
It's justice well served... they need the ego's popped a bit...
I will admit
brutal.savage.rekt
?
Asher did play well..
?
Well deserved.
Houston has some good entertainers, thats why i root for them. But they're not amazing players like akm on hitscans, jjonak, ect.
akm 
akm vs akm
Houston #7.. nice
I personally prefer houston as a meme team over dallas
never forget
Dallas lost a lot of respect from me due to xqc and taimou being xqc and taimou
So i went to houston and ny instead
Rank 8 beat the rank 1 and 3 teams from stage 1
NYXL, Seoul, London.... nice... 1, 2, 3...
Top three at the end of week 4, day 2 https://i.imgur.com/KwtFjoN.png
w00t
@worldly acorn great point...crazy eh
ha ha i was right
tbh I like london and all but I don't wanna see them in stage 2 playoffs
current top 3 would make things the most interesting
I can't wait to see Philly vs Gladiators
London is current top 3
The chokers vs the snubbed vs the rising superstars
I mean top 3 in this stage @whole mulch
Ah
Nvm
Yeah I have lots of love for glads right now
Misread it
already got it
holy shit
They traded the wrong tank
lul
Tomorrow opens with Gladiators vs mayhem
gladiators vs mayhem match tmr will get like 200k viewers
im actually hyped for that match
Idk Gesture is really good
who isnt
idk who is better
cause Logix finally playing like he's on misfits
shanghai dragons is better
london seemed to think gesture
nutty
London also thinks they have better players than NYXL
my guess for tommarows games are the teams that are higher ranked will win 4-0
every single game
unless LA valiant doesn't stabalize and loses another game in this streak
Both aren't doing so hot this stage
Boston had a slump for sure but Valiant is randomly bad for no reason
Next week they play Philly
I don't mind seeing Valiant lose
I think they will drop in standings especially after losing to FLA today
today was bad
Gadiator Barbarian Horde Battle Scene HD, ridley scott, maximus,
gladiators now
fissure maximus
What the fricking frick
Boston wont beat philadelphia unless we see the shitty version of fusion instead of the good one.
Or unless there are some roster changes.
its possible for boston to win
their support duo just needs to live
gamsu being back is a huge boost to boston
gamsu striker is basically like fissure + asher, they got that korean synergy and the mechanics to finish kills so
if their supports can stay alive i think boston can beat fusion, but if kellex dies more often then fusion will roll em over
Someone said that fuel would be tied and eventually pass gladiators by week 4. Lul
i mean if you wanna go for "stupid Fuel predictions" there are bigger ones out there
like saying they'd be the western team to compete with all-korea squads
That worked out
Are the Stage 2 title matches based on overall standings or just standings for Stage 2 matches?
s2
๐ฆ There's no leaderboard for those anywhere
there's one in the app
i'll post 1 sec
thanks! ๐
oh wow
apparently undead left because he has a baby in china he deserted
I always get the news late
oh lol there's stage standings in pins
reading pins
Man, Glads are high up and have a relatively easy path
or a relatively doable path rather
London has an easier path
yeah they've been on a roll
Seoul has a hard path ๐
Standings for stage 2 not updated
If they played like they did yesterday they might have it
missing Seoul's L
here's the current ones from app https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/403021440309526541/424101287005650945/image.png
Looks like GLA has a chance
I'm worried for London ๐ฆ
We'll have to beat Seoul
Done it before
but we've also lost to Boston
so
I can't believe Mayhem beat the Valiant
that is incredible
Good thing only two places are decided by division
because otherwise playoffs are looking massively unbalanced rn
Atlantic is stacked, their second-to-last team has a better record than Pacific's 3rd
although that might change soon if LAG keeps their roll
No joke
It's pretty crazy that Valiant is 4th overall right now but will likely get a free trip to the quarters
oh, I guess that isn't true anymore
since Seoul won some maps
i think the end of stage 2 will be similar
new york 1st place
then either seoul or london will go to play off against a western team
at the final,new york will take the first two maps
before choking and got reverse swept by the playoff winner (either london again or seoul)
standings should be updated in pinned msgs @deft valley
neat
wtf wow
some guy griefed liquipedia
to say dallas won more games/maps than they really did
fixed standings.. sorry
gave them an extra 3-1 against no one 
its already fixed behind-the-scenes
but the edit that fixed is it pending
ironic

Bani
coolmatt
Muma
Boink
clockwork
JAKE
LiNkzr
Rawkus
Spree
1262 0 2 5
1103 39 25 0
1080 34 25 26
976 13 32 15
918 11 9 9
900 34 30 22
893 50 43 26
770 10 31 25
NED 2 4 1
Fissure
Shaz
BigG00se
Bischu
Hydration
Asher
Surefour
1267 38 31 21
1194 26 30 28
1104 12 33 27
1096 34 26 3
1086 27 20 14
970 43 38 30
911 16 23 17
Fissure/Winston: 1326 Rating
Fissure as Winston on Lijiang Tower: 5 Kills
mayhem actually won vs valiant? 
nerf mayhem
can't look down on mayhem anymore
It was a really fun watch to watch
but yeah i agree @onyx shore with the playoffs, however London are definetley struggling with the new meta
london may seem inconsistent but they're still the only team to hand NYXL their only loss of stage 2
also yeah i agree it was a really fun watch to watch
true true
i think overall London are being beaten by teams who can play the meta well but London are beating the teams that just purely aren't as skilled as London's players (i.e. spitfire are relying on skill not the meta)
which might work, but its risky
also i almost cried watching nyxl vs shaghai i was so sad
yeah they shouldn't have lost to GLA but houston are really strong
i don't remember when the exact date was for the balance patch but i wouldn't call houston strong right now
outlaws are on a 3-4 record after their loss to gladiators today
gladiators on the other hand are 5-2
outlaws have been struggling since stage 2
didn't know about that match
(when they had xqc)
dallas is a bit weird, but at that point of time they still had xqc yeah
NYXL is understandable
both of them are 1-3
yeah
ah
but yeah NYXL are on another level to most teams
also i don't know if this is how other people feel but i think Fleta is over hyped he did well early on in stage 1 and he created a lot of hype, but he ain't no Saybeolbe or birdring
i didn't get to see the NYXL vs seoul match, how did the both of them look?
i only saw a few maps it went to map 5 but even so NYXL are still OW kings
it was close but definitely in NY's favor
@rain pewter https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/match/10315
thats the match details
hard to go off scores when there's no other stats provided
for all i know the 2-0 ilios could have been 100-99 both times
and OT went on for like 5 mins
true true
this has better stats
nepal seems close
seoul flat out wins hollywood
NYXL has worse stats on gibraltar but moved the payload so much more than seoul
ilios is a slaughter, apparently
i wish they displayed the capture percentage for both teams in control
but otherwise very good site
they even have a timeline
maybe that means that seoul are better at assault/escort but nyxl are better at everything else??
yeah the timeline is really useful
y'all heard about that Undead drama?
well he's gonna miss the rest of the stage soooooooo ๐
oh
i only know this
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what a anus!
well shanghai are gonna fail bad
especially without him
also if that's true that is messed up
Among those fan groups I joined, only Undead's fan group strongly demanded picture of myself, Undead said I'm good looking after I posted that. The following time, private conversation and add friend goes so natually.
wew
gladiators played well
he's getting the play time he wanted and he's killing it, I'm proud
look at xqc and the games dallas had with him
yeah
thats i think why rascal left London
not enough play time
i feel bad for rascal though
kinda chose the wrong team to play for
if fuel didnt sign AKM,rascal surely will get more playtime
yeah
also i feel like akm and pine suffer from the same problem
they are very 'one trick pony' esque
i.e. akm (only good at soldier) Pine(only good as Mcree)
not to say they are bad at other characters
but they aren't the same level at other characters as these
but then again watching them play there mains is amazing
Anyone know where to find stage 2 results with map differential so far?
@warped axle pinned messages here
Glads did some wacky shit like have Hydration on Lucio
Biggoose making big plays on Sombra
liquipedia has standings with the map diff, the OWL site has it too
Thank you jenn
if that undead scandal is true,do you think he'll get in trouble with OWL ?
it has nothing to do with other players, so whatever OWL will do, they're going to pull it out of their asses
but also if they do that, it sets a precedence for punishing players who just generally bring the league into disrepute
which creates even more grey areas in terms of what's okay and what isn't
well "damaging the league's image" will be enoughi think
what exactly is "damaging the league's image" though
like obvs this is on the extreme end
but,imo
would jake calling another player's fans count?
bcos the scandal is written in chinese
and looks like it wont get picked up by western "gaming >journalist<"
he's probably safe
yeah
people who don't read reddit will also hear about it just in OWL
and then they'll investigate
it'll surface one way or another
tbh it mostly brings SHD into disrepute more than OWL
it was crossposted to /r/OW and was linked in a thread in /r/cow
i saw it on /r/cow about 7 hours ago
might have been deleted
yeah
if the news of that comes out on shitaku or pooplygon,i think he'll be in trouble quickly
Anyone read Kykyโs latest tweets?
Would not be surprised if majority of players start completely closing themselves off from social media. OWL players have tried to make themselves so publically available only for fans to use it as an opportunity to shit on them. #blamekyky #f...
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I donโt get it, no one is blaming the players, but when your players are the ones doing the talking about the team, then as a coach/management youโve royally fucked up
Phili gave answers about Eqo/SDB
Is it really that hard to say why you donโt run a certain lineup? Makes no sense at all
Only reason i can agree with is Hastr0 have been pushing some non optimal lineups
We donโt know if thatโs true for sure
we dont no, but it's the only one that makes sense to me at this point
From hastr0โs tweets earlier itโs a possibility
But it also seems like heโs deflecting blame
fire kyky thanks
Me too thanks
well,sports player gets a lot of hate from social media
it's the price of fame
dont want get a lot of hate? close it
or use fake accounts
the hate is wrong, however he wants to shut out all critisism that fuel gets
The players absolutely don't deserve the hate
the fact that they're going onto social media in what I can only describe as tears is pathetic
i kinda agree with monte here
I am amazed that many players still have their DMs open. That is madness. As for your tweet, one does learn to deal with the bullshit in time. It is a learning process, but one eventually becomes desensitized to the ludicrous screaming masses.
pathetic in that Fuel aren't doing anything to improve the situation, not that the players are pathetic for being upset
exactly
and if you can't handle it, either stop using social media altogether, or face the criticism you are getting and truthfully answer it
at least not getting wrecked completely though
Like i dont really care if its kyky or hastr0 that makes stupid decisions, they are a team - and deserves to be treated as such
only player I've seen criticized was mickie for undeperforming
and somewhat AKM if you consider the talks of his one-trick being countered I guess
Mickie is probably the one to least likely offended as well
well,it's not his fault
not that it justifies the hate, but you get the idea
if you're a one trick,sooner or later you gonna get countered
now it's up to you and your team to counter that counter
AKM has not impressed me
Like Xqc pickup was a huge questionmark, everyone knew what personality that guy had, he was a risk.
They dont get any sympathy when he got suspended twice by me at least
all the real "hate" has been 90% towards kyky and hastr0
They took the risk, they got burned
and rightfully so, imo
it pretty much say everything rests on kykys shoulder now
the sad part is, with xQc playing, Dallas had a number of moments where the team really shined, its a shame that they don't have an "actual" main tank anymore
coco
either 1. He is tired of kykys excuses or 2. He forced kyky to run certain players
Cocco? who's that 
where the hell is cocco
