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im hoping for that in all star weekend
nopls
Brigette is gonna be lit tho
Meta's fine - it's just not for Cocco
I'm gonna be a fuel fan until Japan or Michigan, USA gets an OWL team for themselves
all star weekene yes
I think the meta right now is fine and we see lots of variety. I feel like people forget that top tier teams will always min/max which means the hero pools will always be lopsided
then you see real skill
All Star Weekend = Lucioball
@balmy wolf why did you send me a friend request
damn
all of yall want teams for such and such city, BUT WHAT ABOUT FUCKING CANADA?
who cares
effect looks like he wants to jump from the balcony
its canada
toronto esports
Isn't that the national motto? What about Canada?
oh canada
at least AKM isn't on the Genji this time...
I'd rather mexico have a team before canada
Wonder if Taimou could shut down Kazper?
effect genji
@regal parcel no
I'd rather greece have a team than anywhere else in the world but I doubt that's gonna happen because of the shitty economy
OMG the Twitch chat 
Yeah but the Fuel aren't hot rb
what is effect doing
nothing
a bunch of sweaty greeks playing oW
give it until the end of the Season.... at Kazper's rate of improvement he might just give the Fleta's and Linkzer's a run for their money
That pulse sucked
dallas are playing so bad
Dont care because i want a cleveland team. (Too bad chi-town most likely gonna get one first)
its like they gave up after map 1
i dont know a single greek overwatch pro
wtf?
it's like on comp in platinum when you see a 100 hour winston decide that tonight he's playing hanzo
lol
yesterday i had a game in the ladder where we had 2 leavers that never came back
๐ฆ
๐ 4Head HEY XQC IT'S DALLAS ๐ 4Head TURNS OUT YOU WASN'T THE PROBLEM ๐ 4Head CAN WE HAVE YOU BACK? ๐ 4Head
to be fair chips has never been an excellent mercy, but he's got more LAN experience on it than Custa...
:trihard: 7
Dallas is like that squad that always goes Tilted Towers
it's a mess
LOL DAT BM
thats what it always looks like
RIP DALLAS
tf is tilted towers
nanomaker
look at those map scores
this is not fortnite chat
holy shit
NanoMaker lmfaooo
Fuel only scored one point that whole match
so is the big match gonna start 30 minutes in advance?
series*
YEAH THEY SUCK
Boston Stage 2 deals in absolutes
Nanomaker is the greatest nickname ๐
had more fun in this chat than watching the game, thanks chaps
sf shock is about to get their koreans next stage or something
I mean, it was end of game so it was just for fun, but if you have a widow that can hit shots nano makes her scary.... one shot squishies with body shots again. It's like she was never nerfed lol
And now it is time for the big game
your mom?
So guys who do you predict wins
NYX
Dynasty in a 3-2
NYX
I hope Seoul wins because NY are just a Korean team in disguise
I gotta go with Dynasty 
nyxl bout to beat the shit out of dinnesty
NYXL wins first two and gets reverse swept
just becanse i dont want to hype my team and see them lose
unless they choke
NYXL all the way
again
3-1 
seoul can win,unless they decided to field gido and xepher
cautious optimism, this could go either way

nohomobtw
I hope Uprising took Fuel to dinner before tonights game... because they just got fucked
You don't just do that without some wine and dine
I hope they were wearing protection
the supreme court of usa just award dallas fuel with a custody of a child
Where's the Dallas Fuel of the end of stage 1.
Someone upload that game to pornhub
at the end of stage 1
@finite cedar you mean start of 1
I SEE SEOUL
more like ratgull
After Week 3, they were interesting to watch and did push Boston to map 5.
honestly I'm pissed at dallas
This is just nothing.
I personally don't think seagull can find another team atm
maybe as a substitute when they need a pharah
Honestly they got rid of xqc too quickly. they needed another tank main before getting rid of him
uhhhhhhhhhh shanghai?
how can you not give Gamsu the MVP of t hat game
this analysts
Gamsu got robbed
Shanghai won't take him most likely
because tanks are discriminated against
communication issues
I mean, Striker was in fact great
Dallas had problem with Mercy, and they just keep going with her because AKM is on Soldier and Widow.
just like supports
but that game was all Gamsu
"X is playing great against a bad team"
"X gonna be the number 1 tracer in this league"
yeah
logix plays like SBB when plays againt SHD
danteh is underrated
no shit
"Where were you when Shanghai won their first match ๐ "
btw
btw
SHD 1st match on stage 3
Probably in bed.
I'm nearing the point where I just will always cheer for the Dragons because it's just sad at this point and I want them to win at least one
will be against Dallas
so
they will probably debut geguri in the match against dallas
I'm rooting for shanghai, because unlike dallas, it isn't their fault
ex-coach for shanghai f'd up
they removed him
U4 treated the players like they are sweatshop workers
I'm not sure if Geguri will be a huge help to shanghai honestly
well now that shanghai has bought their koreans theyre gonna be good
her zarya is amazing but her dva is a bit less impressive
Not striker???
Gamsu deserved that
Shanghai's head coach are now Korean too
I guess
Shanghai is more a failure of the organisation, but you could clearly point at these. With Dallas, you can look at all aspect and find issues.
What is it about Koreans that makes them so good at e-sports?
esports is their culture
dedication and environment
it's a big sport for them and there are tons of people training for it
not all esport btw
Gamsu and Striker were the killer duo for today
they sucked at dota2 and csgo
Yeah some games koreans just aren't good at
Let's go NYXL
or don't care enough to pick it up
Koreans are a product of culture. Like the Finnish and rally driving.
When a culture supports something it's amazing how much better that thing can be.
blizzard's games are actually their national sport
dude fuel looked depressed ever since the start it seems
Well, the scene is just smaller for CS and Dota. Jehong played CS professionally there, but they had another FPS that was the top spot.
Yeah, if say, the United States started supporting e-sports and making it more socially acceptable, the US would have better players spring up
nah
Yes
yes
NA is the saltiest region on earth
so is cocco so bad that they wont run him for a single map?
lol
But tbh it's happening in OW now
I don't think Cocco is bad
is that why EU is the most toxic region?
his playstyle is different
@dusk garden KR is way more toxic than EU
but I was watching his winston a couple days ago and it's better than taimou's
but they just won't scrim with him
Idk why
eu? toxic? try playing in south east asia dude
sure
KyKy isn't playing Cocco because apparently they're scared to
i dont get it tbh
It also helps they can easily have local tournament and close competitions. Contenders Korea is a Lan, because they can without a lot of issue bring everyone to Seoul.
their pcbang model also supports the esport scene
fuelsbadman
Even if they're scared to run cocco, he has tons of main tank experience
I don't see why not try
they're losing anyways
Fuelsbadman
And why Custa on Lucio? Why Akm on Genji?
Taimou could perform well, but he needs to be allowed to rest. He's always been streaky, and currently it's not going well.
they're not gonna win season 1 might aswell start building a roster for season 2+
Unless you want him to stop playing.
i love taimou but he just doesnt have a place on DF anymore
rest akm for 1 match
put harryhook on dps tbh
Koreans view online video gaming more of a sport. They tend to have more of a focus competitively than other nationalities. Not that other geographical areas can't compete. It's like American football, American tend to excel in football since they focus on it much more than other nationalities.
korea vs korea next
I'm almost convinced part of AKM's contract is that he has to play 90% of their games
cuz nothing else makes sense
Part of Akm's deal is he would see playtime
i miss the days of old envyus
and I think KyKy was against that
and selfless
It's funny because before Fuel I thought Harryhook was a Soldier also... lol
and c9
t-1 minute until the big game! #hypetrain
harryhook is a soldier player
in season 3 when envyus was the best team in the world he played soldier for them
I know, I was being facetious
so apparently OWL asked Dallas to bench xQc before he got suspended.
"the big game"
Rascal on Genji, Taimou on Widow, Haryhook on Soldier, AKM on Pharah, Seagull on Junkrat and Chip on Zen. Let's do this !
why
ah my bad
OWL is gonna be dead
i want to see them field the original envyus roster
RASCALLE
I've been losing reasons to watch OWL
there's no mercy to play anyway
Yeah Fuel has an issue where they're running a full DPS roster and trying to flex them
NY gonna win!!
:trihard: 7
also why dont they put taimou on off tank instead of main tank
NY better win
i hate Seoul so much
fucking rascalle
@lethal plank lol why?
god I hate malik so much
Question; did we ever get confirmation on whether or not geguri is in the states yet?
dont think so
I just hate them. Ever since game 1 stage 1 /fuel fan
Or any of the new players
they said 31/3 latest
k
Thanks, i was curious if they were in and playing yet
ill gladly be stuck with pucket all day
I'M SO FUCKIN HYPED FOR THIS SHIT
lol Kalik was hitting on some viewers that are girls
this is the championship match
fleta is daddy
just a few stages early
H
Y P
E
LETS GO NYXL
LETS GO DYNASTY
LETS GO NYXL AND DYNASTY
I'M FROM NEW YORK SO I GUESS I HAVE TO ROOT FOR THEM BUT I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS FUN
Kappa
LETS GO DRAGONS
Are both teams full korean or just starters?
Full Korean
Full
well duh, they're the top teams
korean AF
kek
London, NY and Seoul are all full KR
y'all got Seoul or NY for this?
the white balloon things look like dicks

"they're the most korean teams"

i wasnt talking shit, just curious
jehong vs kkonak monkaS
are my team, idc about koreans
Lol
those fucking zen stats
jfc
are my boys too but at this point that feels more like a confession than something to be proud of
Tfw NY loses 4-0 and never wins again
Nope
AY LET'S GO NEW YAHHHK FUXA MATTAH WITH YOU AYYYY
Seoul is going to be stronger than ever right now
most damage I've done with zen is 10k
ResidentSleeper
had to look it up
SBB with the picture of his wife before games, my heart
is that a picture of his girlfriend or something?
yes
wife i think
his wife
ONE person on that lineup doesn't have died hair
lol Ark
he loves his wife so much
NY
His wife
he's married
Ark go zzzz
theyre all different shades
ark is lowkey daddy af
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

no matter who won,there will be riot in koreatown
^

party like 1992
hope NYX stops their streak
#1 vs #2
imma be the first western player to join a korean team Kappa
this will be fun
fans will be 
NY gonna win, so obvious!!!
If seoul wins, I'm gonna put a Japanese curse on them so they can't win any more games for 30 days
hope fleta chokes
is munchkin better than bunny?
Only Fleta would do anything here seems like
Oh my god, will they just fricken play already?!
Munchkin is considered better than bunny yes ark
gotta hype
PINE NO?
puckett's dum for choosing seoul
PUCKETT WHY
pine is for control map
good casters PogChamp
Where's Monte and DoA
UBER AND X LETS GO
"the meta flavors them"
monte and doa casted first and third game
literally right after you said that lol
Korea teams fight in China town
isnt this japan
Can no sport escape the evil that is commentators?
/s
No Eugenus
P I N E
korea town china town japan town
except maybe table tennis
you need commentators
AKTUALLY THIS MAP IS STAGED IN MEDIEVAL TIBET
uber is the worst
semmler is the worst
if i may ask
ooo the prettier team has their colors active
by far
nice
Don't talk about my rap god that way
is semmler the hipster dude?
yeah
Semmler is tall
implying they aren't all hipsters
the guy who doesnt know anything about ow
That's the only nice thing I have to say


he was great at csgo
You know what
yeah

i wonder what happen
@night notch hes the worst of them so he stands out

UNDERDOG KOREANS

hanzo poggers
Is Seoul gonna dive
KOREA NUMBAH WON
taiwan numbah wan
DAMM
ez
LETS GO SBB
Holy fuck
LOL, NY wins!!!
did they get a single pick??
only the first poitn and theyre getting torn apart
jfc
SBB 
I don't expect us to win
Remember last time when Seoul was about to lose map 2 and pulled it back
JJONAK 
They still lost but
But still rooting for my team
literally instant ult pops
miro is so good
Seoul just needs to focus Jjonak
KKonak
Miro is literally a legend
OOO
I hate the constant spraying
It's a habit tbh
i'm sorry but jehong aint sht agaisnt jjonak
switch weapons real fast like a normal person
i love the spraying
yeah it's like muscle memory for them
gotta do something during downtime
I assume they had spray assigned to the same key as move forward
^
wasted nano
So they literally don't even do it on purpose
on the overwatch website, they talk about an Open Division tournament, but it seems like that was in January and there's no new one on the site. Any ideas when the next one will be/if there will be a next one?
Seoul can still hold
holy shit two of them held the point alone
that hold
KKonak PogChamp
sbb's a fkin monster
15 KS
THAT FUCKING ZEN
I love SBB
killed the soldier ult instantly
SBB IS WREKING BRO
jjonak does more damage than both of seoul's dps combined
Crap this is intense
seoul tracer c9?
OMG
fuck jonak
dink dink
i'm cheering for fleta jehong and miro
Why do people get so suprised bout dps zen
Lmao
What I'm wondering is
How many AKM fanboys still haven't gotten clinically depressed
4-0 this sht
has effect started tweeting yet?
My #1 wonder is when the Dragons will win a game lol ;;
YEAH SEOUL 4-0 THEM

Doa is always right
that when they play fuel next?
ye
Yeah lmao
Tankmou activated
makes me so sad ๐ฆ
why waste that ult
mano e mano
he was like 2 shots from death
woof
wow
he'll have another in like 20 seconds
had less than 15% health
is ok
he had to reload and zen was getting healed
The "go after jjonak" strategy seems to be working
this is high quality overwatch play
jehong got a snipe tho
unlike last match
The Zen is too good
feelsbad when jehong isnt the one playing ana
Koreans are so brutally effiecient it's insane
that dva stagger
sbb is a thorn in every opponents side
Zen is soldier, dps with heal, but more healing
the only thing i don't like about these top teams matches is it's ALWAYS gonna be dive comp
without fail
teams like houston go for off-meta picks sometimes
brigitte might change it up
nyxl 4-0's seoul calling it rn
by stage 4 or so
๐
houston go for off meta cuz they dont have a good tracer player
and tracer is a must
those kind of womanly scream didnt exist on the previous match between fuel and boston
but they've got jake! /s
yikes
fuck me bro
2 ticks
god damn
H o l y f u c k
o
bro seoul aint SHT
nice
Libero POTG
nutty play
NANO BLADE POTG
THAT IS PURE ART
gg seoul dynasty
those flicks and turns were so clean
kyky just came seeing that genji play
maybe i'll start rooting for NYXL
This is why I stay in AI bot matches
I wish I could pull off even half the value these high level teams can out of Dragonblade
instead of lolFuel
NYXL is my second fave
munkcin just runs
close as it gets
gg man gg
This is fucking close
TEN SECONDS
man
JFC
holy cow
holyshit
i dont understand how fleta can have that kind of tracking with 33cm/360
Come on seoul
take my energy
this is going to be a fucking 3 hour match
This is just as crazy as it was hyped to be
like i get 30% accuracy with that sens
nyxl still taking this
well guys

zen will solo Dynasty team
just accept that the stage final will be korea vs korea again

I mean I don't care what the race of the players are if it means we see some quality overwatch
pharah???!!!!
and korean teams were decidedly second tier
ThAts NoT mEtA
i thought that would last forever
If London wins stage 2 playoffs then I'll be a London fan
how foolish i was
Though I do like london (because stylosa is part of the staff =x)
being a fan of london just because they're the best isnt a very good imo
fkin autocorrect
ladies and gentlemen
neko
how did rjh not die
styl LUL sa
that was a fuckin jake tier pulse bomb
Tracer best tank 2018
and i cost the united kingdom their best chance at overwatch world cup
fuck you,byeeeeeee

lul
and dont forget
Scene from Strawinsky and the Mysterious House http://strawinsky.net/ Reupload after original poster took it down.
rank doesnt matter
that asian chick cumming in the background
This is close
this ny vs seoul game is goooood
literally NO TIME

did he just fucking say mom's spaghetti
GG
teamwork
yikers
35HP!
wow
.....how
holy shit
holyfuck
29 seconds is that fkin sexy or what
I'mma kms
HOLY CRAP
thats unfortunate

30 seconds
holyshit
beautiful
O O F
one shot one opportunity
talk about dive meta man
that was seriously fantastic
They almost didn't need the overtime
mom spaghetti
14 seconds once they got to the point
PRESS F TO PAY YOUR O O F ' S
<

@coral bloom It's insane
z
Now this is some real Overwatch
what happen if dynasty finish this map?
psh this is your average 3000 sr comp game
draw
they play again
they attack again for the win
each get 1 minute?
no NY is out of time
@ruby pendant honestly that will easily make top 5 plays of stage 2. that might b #1
oh right you need to get 1 tick on the point
if Seoul finishes with time remaining they get to attack again
i think they both get 1 min and if they draw that then its a draw
if they finish with no time I think it's a draw
miro goin ham
damn that was WAY quicker
Stage 2 Miro is so nice to see.
Fl
ta
his Stage 1 was shaky at best.
SBB just got whipped
Mano is really aggressive
too many orgasm inthe building
P
gChamp
somebody get this asian chick a wet towel
@coral bloom Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case! Unless there's better plays to come from this match!!!
yeah seoul is looking better than ny in this round but anything can happen
neither team can defend here well ๐
i think someone brought a tentacle inside the arena
first point is super hard to def
wow
holy shit
libero is so good wtf
ark just won them the fight
That was a decent trade with their time though
and the game
That genji is too good, like watching a movie
Because they got a tick at least.
AKM take notes
Tfw they tie
Absolutely beautiful play from NYXL
damn ark and libero making quick work of seoul
this game feels like another level
Libero on support stage one

yeah this is top level overwatch
this game doesnt belong in OWL
Is this Overwatch or an Overwatch-themed action movie?
doesn't get better than this
30 seconds
should have just reset
libero has his blade gg
Come on NYXL!
nVM
oh shit
HOLY FUCK
NO FUCKING WAY
HOW
even the Casters are struggling to keep up on this one
HOW THE FUCK YOU BLOW 4 ULT ADVANTAGE
NYXL can't win now, they can only draw
FUCKING
oh
WHAT
this is the FIRST GAME WTF
HELL
never mind
OMG
what the fuck
HOLY CRAP
same time
this match is going to end in a draw
@onyx shore Miro. Long story short.
WOW
SARE YOU SERIOUS
WHAT DID WE JUST WITNESS
DAMN this is good
Yesss
jesuuuus
this god damn game
Miro took out Libero, so they lost the Nano blade.
wow
Which put them down to 2 ults.

Good game right now holy fuck
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD GAME
CMON NYXL
sooooo it's a tie??
yeah
they each get another minute to attack
oof
Whoohoo
IS THIS APEX FINALS
Goes to round 6
Best game
this match is like the peak of overwatch
I'm so glad Uber is casting this match
Seoul let's gooo
yo someone said "draw"???
highest quality ever
YOU CANT draw this sht
Uber def the best caster
They've got a trans every fight for each of them
so hype
@silk linden is your profile pic asami vomiting
it's RHJ vs JJ featuring the rest of their teams
spitting soup
close enough

realistically they can both cap both points again lul
does this ever end in a tie?
yes
it could Bacchus
if both teams draw this now, its a tie
round 8: both teams start the game in overtime
like, if neither team caps point A on this round, it's a draw
If no one gets anything, or they both only get A, its a tie.
LETS GO NY
sbb's a fkin monster
wooowwwww
NEW YORK NEW YORK NEW YORK
Look at how animated SBB is on comms.
sucks, just came back
6 - 6 lets go
sbb is in the freakin zone
I JUST WANTED TO WATCH MAP 1 THEN SLEEP
Everyones hype.

PLEASE STOP THIS

WHAT THE FUCK
oh noes
WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT IS THIS SHIT

OH MY
These commentators are hilarious
TOBI PLS
liberoooo
LIBERO ULTRA INSTINCT
WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT THE HELL
TAKE POINT B
was that a c9?
unreal
NOW THIS IS OVERWATCH
TOBI PLEASE
LOOK AT THE FACES ON NYXL
WHAT IS THIS SHIT
that looked like a c9
borderline c9
nah
this is the first game...
he just didn't make it in time
this is the first game with Dallas all over again
COME ON 6-6 LETS FUCKING GO
No, that wasn't a C9. Because it wasn't due to aggression.
LETS GO NY
holy fuck
LOl nyxl
THIS GAME WENT TO OVERTIME LIKE TWO ROUNDS AGO
c9 you gotta be winning the point
They were trying to loop back to the spawn point ot heal to get back to the point.
seriously call the whole match after this game. this is insane
if you have to ask "is that a c9?" it almost always isn't
12:12 incoming
c9s are obvious af
and they've still got 3 maps left
That was smart attempts at rotation to keep contesting the point
you mean four right
maybe even 4
true but i thought i saw 4 seoul players near the point but not on it
This is like Goku vs Jiren here
Miro leapt on point, barrier, had all that shit broken so he leapt out toward spawn.
this match might just come down to a test of endurance
Because the spawn will heal him faster than anything else in the game
So he can get back on.
bro if this goes 6-6 waht even man
It's a draw
LIBERO
Munchkin just needs to train in the hyperbolic time chamber during half time so he can go further beyond
Wow
ok it won it
ASSASSINATION
Fortnite strats
that's actually a great strat
wtf is going on
That was an insane strat.

6-4 LOL
jehong getting bullied hard
LOL
Because they just need to get one or two people
To screw up everything.
that was rude
that was fucking hillarious
one attempt. CAN THEY DO IT
Thats the "We just need to delay a minute" strat.
BIG BOSS PINE
No supports
wtf is this game
GG
GG
GGGGGGGGGG

But holy actual shit
LETS GO NY
GG NYXL
holy shit
GG
Tobi just getting eaten in every fight

NYES!!!!!!!!!!!!
that was a really fucking good game
Man

Tfw dallas is under shock in standings now 
That was some supreme assassination strategy.

GG 4-0 THIS SHIT
this is actually gonna be a 3h series...
It's over
Pine is a monster
Sbb wtf
How long was that map?
1 MILLION DOLLAS BABY
Pine is literally their worst DPS.
First win higher momentum
But okay.
half an hour for 1st map
๐
jeez
Even if they 4-0 it was still close af
do we get extra Tokens if one map lasts the length of two+
tells you a lot when pine is your worst dps LOL
lol
no
Am I imagining stuff or did sbb improve?
sbb is in the zone
Most of the Korean teams, in my opinion, play better or worse depending on who they're playing.
So its not that he improved.
I can feel adrenaline pumping just from watching this
He's just stepping up to play against a better team.
At least they didn't do bad
bro munckin just runs from the 1v1 every time
sbb has been enabled super hard this stage
Where SBB could play against Dallas using his feet.
munchkin is scared
pine would'nt have been able to do sht
Sbb has always been super dank
nah. hes smart
Pine's very much a glass cannon though
pines coming
he knows sbb will win in a head to head
Neither Tracer have really been engaging in duels.
pine keeps the seat warm for flower
They both need the support kills.
They can't play him every match
So they take some shots at each other.
But its not the end game.
If they subbed in Pine right now.
tbh I want dynasty to win, but I really don't care if each map is as close and as interesting as that
how to shut down libero's blades
You don't
rip
@indigo barn Get the supports
I love this match up.
I've only got 1 token from today ๐ฆ
just shoot him in the head lol
anybody else having problems?
4Head
SBB with 55 elims 
The supports are the core of NY's stability
55-6 wtf
sbb is on virtual steroids
55 in one match yo SBB is a hype beast
It's really interesting to see how different they are in number of final blows/elims even though they had nearly identical damage
of course he's a hypebeast, he plays for New York
sbb confirmed killstealer
everything
some good fuckin overwatch thats what
it's crazy to me that this performance out of Seoul is really close to NYXL but it wasn't quite good enough
top 3 are you kidding me
It was better strategy on the last point, that was it.
i'm really excited for the rest of the match
Is that pine with the blonde hair? I'm used to looking for the pink to spot him.
yeah they both could/ve get fked
Libero has definitely shown up today
