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pearl stratus
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Four games.

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They extended it to cover the last two.

vestal mortar
orchid herald
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Oh yeah

pearl stratus
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Which lets be fair.

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He probably wasn't going to play those last two games anyway.

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After missing four weeks of practice time and play.

orchid herald
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That’s why they extended it

pearl stratus
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So it was an easy concession that makes it look like they side with the league.

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While not giving up much.

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Pure PR, most likely.

orchid herald
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But then dallas was like “we’re gonna help him practice and give him help during the ban”

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That never happened

pearl stratus
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I actually bet it did.

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Look at xQc's stream.

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Look at that personality.

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Imagine offering him help.

solid spear
pearl stratus
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How seriously do you think he'd take it?

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Unless he thought he needed it.

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xQc's mentality is to be emotionally raw, all the time. It's the only way to be honest. To himself I doubt he thinks what he does is wrong because he's speaking from the heart.

orchid herald
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Xqc acts for his streams entertainment

pearl stratus
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xQc doesn't run his stream, that's your biggest issue. His stream runs him.

orchid herald
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While he still is energetic he isn’t insane like on stream

pearl stratus
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I think Dallas could have offered all the help in the world.

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And I don't think he would have attempted any of it.

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Because his stream validates how he acts, and encourages it more while stroking his ego.

orchid herald
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Idk

pearl stratus
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His stream is literally cancer to his non-streaming career.

orchid herald
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I just think the whole situation is stupid in itself

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First punishment was fine

pearl stratus
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I'm not saying its not. I think Blizzard didn't do themselves justice by attacking both sides of the issue in terms of the casters.

orchid herald
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Second was stupid

pearl stratus
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But this second punishment wasn't wrong.

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Even if you take the emote thing entirely out of it, he still said a bunch of stupid shit.

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And then got riled up by his stream, and said some more stupid shit.

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And because he doesn't filter his emotions he got himself in more trouble for it.

orchid herald
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He was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the emote
He cursed at the casters because they literally called him a tumor

pearl stratus
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Here's the biggest issue with that.

orchid herald
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And nothing happened to the casters

pearl stratus
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They weren't wrong. But they said it wrong as hell.

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And yes, people should be mad nothing happened to the casters.

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That's what you get upset with Blizzard about.

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But not the ban, because the ban was warranted.

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Behavior A will never excuse Behavior B.

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At most it mitigates, but doesn't excuse.

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And when its your second offense, even mitigated you're screwed.

orchid herald
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Fair enough

pearl stratus
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People should be requesting that Casters/Analysts are held to the same behavior levels as the players, and they should be requesting Blizzard be more transparent with their fines.

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If xQc's situation taught us nothing - it should at least have that come out of it.

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My guess with the fines is that its their first season. They have a general outline of how they want fines to work.

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But actions rarely fall into a neat little line on the outline.

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And they're flailing as they try and figure it out.

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But even so - you'd get more respect by saying "Honestly this is our first season, we're trying to do the best we can and make sure the fines fit the magnitude of the situation. But for many of us this is the first time trying to judge these situations and we are doing the best we can."

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Than saying nothing.

vestal mortar
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Nesh sniping Vallutaja pogchimp

pearl stratus
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Eh.

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It's from Slasher.

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I'd literally trust a semi-truck full of bricks driving over a popsicle stick bridge more than him lately.

magic zinc
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Architect 👀

pearl stratus
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It'd be a great pick up if its true, but I'd need Trumps twitter to confirm.

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It's more reliable.

limber pine
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Architect has confirmed he's been signed

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just not by what team

pearl stratus
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Slasher just kind of reminds me of a Fox Journalist.

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He throws so much shit at the wall to see what sticks

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Then points to the stuff that stayed up to be like "SEE I CALLED IT"

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While ignoring the giant pile on the floor.

limber pine
magic zinc
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Would that mean 12 players for Shock?

limber pine
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yes

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with super and sinatraa underage

pearl stratus
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Sinatraa is only underage till next week.

tight vault
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sinatraa

magic zinc
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Can underage people still scrim?

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Or is that considered work

tight vault
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isn't sinatraa like one of the best OW players worstherointhegame

pearl stratus
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Unsure, probably.

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Also I think it would have been better if Sinatraa turned 18 right when SFS played NYXL.

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He got saved by two weeks.

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Literally two weeks.

magic zinc
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I have rarely ever seen someone got dominated so hard as SBB dominated Sinatraa

pearl stratus
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It wasn't right.

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I wanted to call Child Protective Services.

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That kid got abused.

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Though don't forget Saebyolbe cheated.

magic zinc
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But it was tooootally because of the Harmony Orb, right? zaryalol

pearl stratus
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By playing an annoying style. And getting a harmony orb.

magic zinc
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And he plays an annoying style!

tight vault
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tatDerp harmony orb

balmy wolf
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To be fair SBB did have the better teammates by far

molten skiff
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want to see Kruise in OWL

pearl stratus
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SBB is also just by far a better tracer in terms of game sense/thought.

limber pine
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remember when harmony orb didn't have a time-out

balmy wolf
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yeah

limber pine
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good times

balmy wolf
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overpowered af

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SBB is known as the anti-tracer

pearl stratus
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SBB is a monster with Kpop hair and his wifes picture, pretending he's innocent.

balmy wolf
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well him and soon

pearl stratus
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Not fooling anyone you murderer.

balmy wolf
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you know I read an interesting statistic

tight vault
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lets sue

balmy wolf
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did you know soon's most killed hero is tracer?

pearl stratus
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Imo: Soon has to focus on Tracers more due to a weaker tank line not creating the space needed for dps/supports.

balmy wolf
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Soon's focus is

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killing enemy tracer

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I can't really say if SBB is a better tracer than soon

pearl stratus
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Also when you have Jjonak you don't have to worry about a lot of Tracers.

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Jjonak gets mad if you take away ult charge.

balmy wolf
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because his supports are far better than anyone in the league

pearl stratus
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As he murders your dps.

balmy wolf
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maybe seoul

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have better supports

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but that's it

pearl stratus
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I would say Jjonak + Ark is better than RHJ+Tobi right now.

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But not by a large maging.

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....

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Words. Are. Hard.

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Margin.

balmy wolf
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Tobi > Ark imo

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on lucio at least

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but jehong

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his zen is bad

pearl stratus
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His Zen is better than most, but not up to par with Jjo or Bdo.

balmy wolf
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Eh

pearl stratus
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JJo and Bdosin are on a very different level from most Zenyattas.

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And Bdosin is so quiet about it.

balmy wolf
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I'd say Jehong is like

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5th best in league

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never really been impressed by his zen

pearl stratus
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Jjonak, Bdosin, Arguably Biggoose now with Fissure.

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I'd put him 4th.

balmy wolf
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doesn't biggoose main lucio

pearl stratus
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Whichever purple boi plays Zen then.

balmy wolf
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Shaz

pearl stratus
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I confuse him and Shaz constantly for some reason.

balmy wolf
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who is actually

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one of the better players in the league

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his zen is statistically one of the best

pearl stratus
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Most of Glad are really good players, they just needed a tank to give them the space to perform.

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Asher pre and post Fissure is like an entirely different player.

balmy wolf
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You can't do shit as tracer if you don't have a frontline

magic zinc
balmy wolf
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against owl players, if you push the enemy as tracer you die in ~1 second

pearl stratus
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Watching Asher basically harass London with no retribution was insane.

magic zinc
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"Releasing" being thrown around that like doesn't sound very good tbh

pearl stratus
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It's Slasher.

balmy wolf
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NOO

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DON'T SELL COCCO

pearl stratus
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Cocco is interesting either way, because his style doesn't fit the current meta.

balmy wolf
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I watched cocco's stream last night

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his rein was top tier

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and he is a very charming person to watch

pearl stratus
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It's hard to adjust to an aggro meta if you're normally a more passive player.

balmy wolf
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Cocco's shotcalling

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looks better than xqc's

pearl stratus
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It does, but his pace isn't great.

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Look at Houston, they have great shotcalling but because they play this passive style against the Dive they lose the pace of the game.

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And get stomped.

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It worked fine in Stage 1.

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But we're not in Stage 1 anymore.

balmy wolf
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Houston's dps lineup is whack

tight vault
balmy wolf
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I like clockwork but you can't just swap him in when you "think" you need a tracer then be stuck with it for the whole game

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the other tracers play other heroes

pearl stratus
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They're in a weird transition.

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Because I fully believe the team can't play to full potential without Jake on both shot calling/strategy.

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Which means you get stuck with his Tier 3 Tracer when you need a T1.

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And it'll get there eventually, but that's time they don't have.

balmy wolf
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They need a tank that can shotcall tbh

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that way you can sub jake out comfortably

pearl stratus
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Muma can, I think they just rely on Jakes Gamesense.

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He's probably one of the smartest players in the league.

balmy wolf
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I haven't been seeing it

pearl stratus
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Mechanically pretty weak.

balmy wolf
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Maybe in the world cup

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and stage 1

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but recently he's been looking pretty clueless

pearl stratus
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Well prior to Florida teams realized that breaking up Muma + Coolmatt broke up Houston.

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And I think they're trying to fix that first.

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Houston is crazy reliant on the synergy between those two.

balmy wolf
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KILL COOLMATT

pearl stratus
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And teams were just focusing down Muma because it works.

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Mechanically Muma is probably the best player on Houston

balmy wolf
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what game did the kill coolmatt meme come from anyways

pearl stratus
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One of the Dallas ones, iirc.

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I think Effect was yelling it

magic zinc
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Yeah it was Effect

balmy wolf
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Lmao

pearl stratus
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Because Coolmatt basically moved into Effects room for the duration of that game.

slim summit
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Not a ton of good looking matches this week -- I'm excited for Houston vs Glads on Thursday though!

pearl stratus
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There's a match per day I'm excited for.

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That's about it.

balmy wolf
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Huh

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This week is NYXL vs Dynasty

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Fuel vs Uprising is also a pretty fair game

magic zinc
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^

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AT EU TIMES AS WELL

balmy wolf
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then there's outlaws vs glads the next day

pearl stratus
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NYXL vs. Seoul on Wednesday, Houston vs. LAG on Thursday, Valiant vs. Boston on Friday, and Seoul vs. London on Saturday.

magic zinc
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I can watch Dynasty vs London live <3

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as like one of 2 matches the entire week lol

pearl stratus
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Seoul playing both other Korean teams this week.

balmy wolf
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Is no one else excited for Fuel vs. Uprising? GWgoaSadness

pearl stratus
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I think if Boston wins against Dallas they'll have a good shot against LAV.

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Because they need the confidence boost.

shy wind
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I think Boston can probably run through fuel zaryalol

pearl stratus
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Honestly watching Fuel is just a mess, so I'm not really excited for their games.

balmy wolf
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Okay so

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with xqc gone

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the only tank player they have is cocco and potentially taimou right?

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the OGE guy isn't here yet?

pearl stratus
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Cocco, Taimou for Main tank.

magic zinc
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Sounds about right yep

pearl stratus
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Mickie/Seagull for Offtank.

balmy wolf
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So

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I guess we're going to see taimou winston

pearl stratus
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Since they've been scrimming Seagull on OT for two weeks now.

magic zinc
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Is there an eta on OGE? I assume Stage 3

pearl stratus
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If he doesn't have his visa stuff, yeah probably stage 3.

shy wind
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I can't wait for stage 3

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at this point

slim summit
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I thought I heard Stage 3

shy wind
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stage 2 has been a mess

slim summit
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lol

whole mulch
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Seagull used to play off-tank professionally

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but I wonder how well he will do in OWL

slim summit
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finally get out of Mercy meta

pearl stratus
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But they're very visual teams for the league.

slim summit
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OWL implodes

whole mulch
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I was waiting for mercy meta to die for so long

slim summit
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finally get out of Mercy meta

pearl stratus
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Stage 2 has only been a mess for like 3 teams

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I think his Zarya is good enough, his D'va is going to be the biggest issue.

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They need to do something about Mickie.

shy wind
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more like 6 teams zaryalol

pearl stratus
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Eh Florida/Shock aren't changed from Stage 1.

whole mulch
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Mickie's dva is in a weird spot

pearl stratus
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The biggest changes are Houston down, Dallas somehow further down.

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LAG up.

magic zinc
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I hope Dallas sign a dedicated off-tank

pearl stratus
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LAV down.

slim summit
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London down 😦

shy wind
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Well they're forming seagull

magic zinc
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Idk if Seagull is gonna cut it, would rather have someone with experience on the role

shy wind
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into that tank

balmy wolf
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Have there been any rumors for new teams yet?

shy wind
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but idk

magic zinc
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Sure they can try him for a bit but I wouldn't dwell on it

whole mulch
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New teams are rumored to come next season

slim summit
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People are still talking about the Chicago rumor

shy wind
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We still have a long while till we see new teams

whole mulch
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I think OWL Themselves said it

shy wind
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though

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it's very possible

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orgs may lose spots.

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and new orgs come in

slim summit
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Dallas Fuel should sign Emongg

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they tried the toxic meme streamer ... now they should try the opposite

shy wind
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Dallas fuel needs to stop looking for streamers

magic zinc
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I dont think they lose spots, they paid for them presumably for more than 1 season

balmy wolf
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But. But... Seagull

whole mulch
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Is Emongg looking?

balmy wolf
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Yes

shy wind
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period.

magic zinc
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I wonder if any EU orgs are interested in OWL anymore

pearl stratus
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I don't think looking for streamers is bad.

whole mulch
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I think Emongg has very little pro experience

shy wind
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maybe if xqc drama hasn't drawn them away

pearl stratus
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But they need people who will be more dedicated to the team than their stream.

whole mulch
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he has like some T2 experience with selfless

shy wind
whole mulch
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that's it right?

balmy wolf
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Emongg was in the good old selfless spawn camp days

whole mulch
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Btw

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I've played a lot with the ana from Selfless, and he isn't on par with any of the old selfless players

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I feel like they could have gone further with better supports

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he only recently became consistently GM level

balmy wolf
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Or you know, kept dafran happy

whole mulch
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Ah yeah

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I'd imagine sinatraa and dafran blamed him a lot

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Emongg Sinatraa and Dafran were pretty top tier

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who was their main tank again?

balmy wolf
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Uh...

whole mulch
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Was it just some random

balmy wolf
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Kresnik

whole mulch
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oh no

balmy wolf
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Idk who he is anymore

whole mulch
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Kresnik yeah

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And apparently

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Carpe trialed for Selfless

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I don't remember that o.O

balmy wolf
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Yeah I remember that

whole mulch
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Did he not pass lol

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It says he trial'd but never joined

balmy wolf
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He did I think

whole mulch
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then moved to FaZe

balmy wolf
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They just broke up

whole mulch
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Oh

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Oh they had dhaK too

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Forgot that

balmy wolf
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I remember dhak

whole mulch
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Yeah tbh

pearl stratus
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Dhak is kind of forgettable despite being the biggest guy on the team.

whole mulch
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lol

pearl stratus
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He's this weird like.. mid-quality support.

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He's not bad, but he's not great. So you just kind of forget he's there.

whole mulch
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dhaK is a DPS lucio

balmy wolf
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Eh I liked his agro lucio

pearl stratus
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The problem is now he's in a sea of better aggro lucios, in my book at least.

balmy wolf
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Yeah ofc

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Aggro Lucio is the best way to farm ult

pearl stratus
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Watching like.. Tobi do FFA DM on his stream.

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It's just gross.

balmy wolf
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Since healing is kinda weak

whole mulch
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Damage and healing amps

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are how lucio's get ult

balmy wolf
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Btw I do not like how contenders is being done atm. I feel like the league orgs should get them when. They finished the season

whole mulch
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Well

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League is allowed to sign anyone

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whenever

pearl stratus
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I think the dislike comes from the fact they're not even being coy about it.

balmy wolf
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Yeah but like what's the point of contenders other than a player farm for the teams

pearl stratus
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If OWL had nothing to do with Contenders it'd still be the same way.

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But OWL is investing in contenders for its player pool.

whole mulch
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That's the way blizzard intended

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in their "Path to Pro"

tight vault
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lets sign timthetatman

pearl stratus
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What I mean is though it gets bad publicity because they're upfront about it.

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They could have ignored contenders and still just signed people during their own signing periods.

balmy wolf
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As what off tank road hog specialist zaryalol

pearl stratus
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And it'd be the same end result.

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I don't inherently disagree, but this is how the minors system in pretty much every sport works.

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You can get called up from the Minors in baseball to literally play one game.

tight vault
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road hog specialist are the best

pearl stratus
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Then get sent back down.

whole mulch
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Season 1 roadhog specialists

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best

pearl stratus
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Oh Taimou.

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If only you could still play a widowmaker.

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Dallas needs a sniper.

whole mulch
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Effect is currently their sniper

pearl stratus
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Yeah its just doesn't go well when your Sniper is your Tracer.

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AKM tried. Kind of.

balmy wolf
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How good is akm sniper

pearl stratus
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Uh.

balmy wolf
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Or rascal

pearl stratus
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His keyboard is only half in braille?

whole mulch
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Akm's widow is meh

balmy wolf
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Actually has rascal played widow before?

pearl stratus
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Rascals was better than AKM's.

whole mulch
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Rascal can widow

pearl stratus
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But thats not saying much.

balmy wolf
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Well since they are back to having 5tanks and there is a dps slot...

pearl stratus
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Philly, NYXL, and Seoul probably have the overall best widow lineups.

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Not overall best widows, but in terms of most people who can play it a high level.

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Eqo and Carpe being almost interchangeable was an interesting development for Philly.

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I had -no- idea that Eqo's Tracer was that good.

whole mulch
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Eqo plays pretty much everything

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it's why they run him

pearl stratus
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Yeah it was more the level.

whole mulch
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he can widow too

pearl stratus
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His Widow was competitive to Fleta, which was fun to watch.

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Genji and Tracer are different enough you don't get a LOT of people who play them both at that high a level.

whole mulch
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Usually people specialize in one or the other

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but not both

hybrid helm
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But vs very highly skilled players you need as highly skilled dps as you can even if with 3 hero pool

whole mulch
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genji is for projectile players, tracer is hitscan

hybrid helm
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Eqo plays more heroes but nothing like SDB

pearl stratus
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Eh SDB really -only- plays the Genji better than Eqo.

whole mulch
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I'm a bit confused why SDB doesn't get more playtime

pearl stratus
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Pace.

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I'm not even joking.

hybrid helm
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There are super flexible dps like Fleta but they have to be top tier at several

pearl stratus
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SDB is too patient a Genji, his play style isn't of a fast pace.

molten skiff
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is eqo better than SDB when it comes to pharah?

pearl stratus
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You pair Carpe and Eqo you get a really aggressive front line.

hybrid helm
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@pearl stratus pharah too

pearl stratus
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That can set the pace of the game if they're allowed to.

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Eqo and SDB have very similar Pharahs.

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It's not drastically different.

hybrid helm
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But super aggressive genji is good vs less coordinated teams but not vs defensive teams and highly coordinated teams

pearl stratus
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SDB is probably the best genji in the league, but his play style and Eqo's playstyle are very much night and day.

hybrid helm
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When I watch SDB I see very very smart plays

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Of course mechanics too but he is a genius

pearl stratus
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Right now in Stage 2 the current meta, regardless of comp, is to be aggressive and set the game to your current pace and have the enemy team trying to adjust to you.

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Which is why I think we're seeing more Eqo than SDB.

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When they play a team that doesn't have that aggro style, they slot in SDB.

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So he can mechanically dismantle a defense.

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And then they play London.

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And London just destroys them.

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Poor guys.

hybrid helm
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My point is SDB playstyle is more calculated and safe which is important vs top level teams

pearl stratus
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It is and isn't.

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It really is about game pace.

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Because some teams dont' give SDB the window he wants for his blade.

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So he holds it for 18 years, sends it to college, goes to its graduation and helps it move into Grad school

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Before he uses it.

hybrid helm
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Dive is always and was always about aggression and about countering it

pearl stratus
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London and Houston would be the type of team I'd run Shadowburn against.

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Dallas and LAV too.

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Everyone else, Eqo right now.

hybrid helm
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I’d run SDB especially vs Seoul NYXL and Houston since they seem to counter dive the best

pearl stratus
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NYXL has the highest rate in the league of winning teamfights when they're behind.

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And with how fast Jjonak charges Trans I wouldn't want any blades held.

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I'd want them shoved out as soon as possible.

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Otherwise your Genji will never get a good blade.

hybrid helm
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But I believe that if SDB practices some more heroes he can be top tier on many heroes

pearl stratus
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Because you'll assume Jjonak has a transc EVERY time you go to ult.

hybrid helm
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Because his game sense and positioning is insane

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His decision making

pearl stratus
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Yeah, but changing your style from passive to aggressive while staying alive is really hard.

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I actually prefer them having two distinct Genji styles.

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It keeps teams guessing.

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I'd even consider running Eqo+Shadowburn one game.

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Especially since Eqo's Tracer isn't bad.

molten skiff
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but why

pearl stratus
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Because your comp could literally change its pace mid game on the Genji if you wanted to.

hybrid helm
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I actually think SDB is much better than EQO outside of blade and EQO is just effective with frequent use of blades so I’d count on SDB when enemy charges trans fast

molten skiff
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how many comps nowadays dont work with tracer

tight vault
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0

molten skiff
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even if it doesnt

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carpe can just play other hitscan

shy wind
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I feel like in stage 3 if sombra does come out alot

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it can really hurt seoul

pearl stratus
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I actually don't think she'll come out a lot at all.

hybrid helm
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You know what I thought can be good? New buffed sombra with a genji
She just flanks and jacks zen and tells on mic so genji knows to ult

pearl stratus
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So far in contenders any team that's run a lot of Sombra

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Has lost.

shy wind
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yeah but that's contenders

pearl stratus
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Even without contenders, I feel her biggest use was in the EMP.

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And that's been pretty much destroyed with the health pack change.

hybrid helm
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@shy wind maybe but I hope they have someone else practicing sombra other than Fleta

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They could run Fleta+wekeed anyway

pearl stratus
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Also there's already Blizzard rumors of them nerfing hack so it doesn't feel like Hook 1.0

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So we'll see if she's even the same come Stage 3.

hybrid helm
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@pearl stratus Yes but Seoul is known to pull out hard strats that require insane communication

shy wind
#

zz

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I've started my dinner now i'm not hungry anymore fml brb.

hybrid helm
#

Lol I went to buy a sandwich to open my appetite

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And then eat a proper meal

tight vault
#

is it me or is florida mayhem improving

shy wind
#

I mean it's natural for teams to improve

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it's just can they keep it up

#

and is the improvement enough

#

Dragons improve every match yet are still 0-16

hybrid helm
#

Maybe a bit but I think Dallas Fuel is throwing hard

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Not intentionally I mean their coaches seem super bad I guess..

tight vault
#

dragons are the best

hybrid helm
#

Their coaches literally go like “nice let’s hire AKM he is so good he will carry us.. wait his best hero is soldier? EVERYONE PLAY AROUND HIM!”

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And protect him lol

pearl stratus
#

Actually.

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Only one of the coaches wanted AKM.

hybrid helm
#

Why are they all playing around him?? I think he is good at mccree too which is better to play around..
And they were getting rekt by SoOn from valiants he sooo carried his team

pearl stratus
#

Because its how EnvyUS trained to play before becoming Dallas Fuel.

#

They were 5 units supporting a DPS.

hybrid helm
#

Just put AKM on mccree... or put taimou on mccree he might not be best but taimou is still pretty good in mccree

pearl stratus
#

Blame Hastr0.

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He wanted AKM that badly.

hybrid helm
#

It was so irritating to watch

#

Imo biggest problem with Dallas is coaching

#

It’s like they are being told to meme and throw matches

#

They players individually are ALL good. Even taimou ppl say he isn’t good enough as dps.. he is still better than many other dps players on the weaker teams

amber pine
#

Mosaic vs Bazooka Puppiez

#

Just watch the rerun if you can

#

More intense than OWL

hybrid helm
#

OverReactLeague you mean

molten skiff
#

idk taimou

#

most weaker teams still seem to have good dps

#

at least one

hybrid helm
#

I think it’s better to keep Taimou on a role he prefers and make him practice on that he already proved himself in the past

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But idk it’s the coaches imo

lethal plank
#

just heard the news. xqc is finally gone. ooooooh boy this week's games will be cancer in chat and i bet someone's gonna smuggle a trihard emote poster into the building

ruby pendant
#

@lethal plank You sure? I thought people said suspended.

tight vault
#

we've known that

lethal plank
#

I live in Japan so news travels slow for me

strong parrotBOT
#
New York Excelsior

JJoNak
ArK
Mano
Saebyeolbe
Libero
MekO
janus

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

1453 39 20 19
1245 5 11 21
1228 18 15 14
1193 58 11 29
1138 54 27 19
1133 34 21 0
1011 7 4 5

San Francisco Shock

Danteh
babybay
Sleepy
dhaK
Nevix
nomy

Rating | Kills | Deaths | Ults

883 28 29 32
837 28 39 25
722 12 43 18
623 5 34 15
559 16 35 1
510 14 41 16

MVP

JJoNak/Zenyatta: 1453 Rating

Play of the game

Libero as Genji on Hollywood: 4 Kills

hybrid helm
#

@lethal plank yea nothing is wrong with TriHard emote tho

tight vault
#

Trihard7

ruby pendant
#

@lethal plank Thanks for the info!

lethal plank
#

Kinda bullshit when xQc got 2k fine for his first anti-gay comment when taimou gets 1k for his. And someone got a warning for a racist meme just because they donated before the penalty was given. OWL isn't gonna last 2 years like this

tight vault
#

no one likes xQc

balmy wolf
#

Just wait for sinatraa

#

I like xqc

potent tangle
#

Ya think xQc is going to move back to Canada? Plus I like xqc he is entertaining and has good intentions

balmy wolf
#

He is the guy I watched to learn how to main tank

#

Nah he said he's staying in la

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At least for now

lethal plank
#

I'm neutral on xQc. Just unfair when other players get a lighter fine

echo vault
#

still waiting for sinatra's fine/bans

balmy wolf
#

Ikr

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That's what I said

#

Him and sinatraa are basically the same

#

Also I can't wait for people to talk about how Jake called Dallas fans D: oh wait nobody talks about it

echo vault
#

Just wait, someone will steal jake's thesaurus and everyone will realize he's a an idiot

balmy wolf
#

Jlulke

lethal plank
#

I'm debating on making a complaining post on Reddit sometime this week on the disgust from the bullshit and unfairness Blizzard is doing.

echo vault
#

I'm thinking about selling my shares of ATVI

#

Took a nice dip today that Im going to blame on their fuckups

lethal plank
#

I regret spending money on a jersey (seagull) and buying some owl tokens.

#

Super regret

pearl stratus
#

Reddit is the land of tears and stupidity.

#

So I'd say make the post.

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It'll fit in.

lethal plank
#

I don't think I've ever witnessed a proper conversation or debate on Reddit

pearl stratus
#

It's the internet, people dont' tend to let things like facts or evidence assuage the fact they must be correct and that everything is horrible.

lethal plank
#

And I've been using it for like 5 or 6 years

echo vault
#

help help help

#

i can't see

#

my eyes rolled too far back

balmy wolf
#

Well that's what happens when a forum puts stuff out based on upvotes

lethal plank
#

Like global warming, it doesn't really exist yet everyone believes it Kappa

pearl stratus
#

It's more just people read to the point they want to read to then instantly drop the IQ of a block of wood.

balmy wolf
#

Hive mind mentality

acoustic grail
#

BYE BYE XQC

pearl stratus
#

He'll be happier, Dallas will do better, hopefully Blizzard will get enough shit they start keeping their casters/analysts on a shorter leash.

#

It's win win win.

#

Of course Dallas won't do better till like Stage 3.

#

But eh.

balmy wolf
#

They still have an identity crisis

#

They need to figure that out before getting Wins

lethal plank
#

Dallas needs timthetatman

pearl stratus
#

Yeah but having a consistent main tank incoming, even if he's mechanically worse than xQc, will be huge for helping to redefine.

balmy wolf
#

No

pearl stratus
#

Actually being able to practice and play with a main tank apparently is pretty good for teams.

balmy wolf
#

I don't even think Tim would do it since he will have a baby sometime next year

pearl stratus
#

He's also not good enough.

#

To be fair.

balmy wolf
#

Well yeah

#

He's just a streamer

pearl stratus
#

I'm surprised SBB balances it all so well.

lethal plank
#

Dallas needs me. I'm a gold tank main on PS4. I can do way better than xQc

pearl stratus
#

His wife apparently lives in Malaysia, and now is in the US with him.

magic zinc
#

He put a picture of her on his on-stage keyboard the other day

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So adorable

echo vault
#

ref should have removed it as a prop..

lethal plank
#

I'm waiting for people to realize these players use enhaning drugs

#

Like Adderall

echo vault
#

good for them i haven't been sober since i was in highschool

shy wind
balmy wolf
echo vault
#

im scared

lethal plank
#

I like stylosa

grizzled mulch
lethal plank
#

Random question: what are the advantages of seeing owl in person at the arena when you can just stay home and farm tokens?

keen warren
#

Cool environment, possibility to get signatures for RL swag and jerseys. You'll be on the stream if you got a funny sign or Cosplay, and like It's just awesome to be in an arena watching an Esport

#

Like, 10 years ago, people would still be laughing at us bout watching "Vidya Games" on tv, now we got multi million dollar tournaments and Players are now considered famous

balmy wolf
#

Hype is different when watching live

keen warren
#

Yeah plus cheering for your favourite team is awesome when you got hundreds of other fans chanting as well

hearty prawn
#

being in the arena during insane plays is an awesome feeling

#

people are all legitamtely enjoying the game together

#

i remember when houston beat london in stage one, the place nearly exploded with cheering

#

was fun 😃

foggy quail
#

i feel you man, the place gets crazy and loud when someone makes a yuge play, or when fleta does anything. ps fleta best player ever

#

profit might be second

pearl stratus
#

Yeah. I've set my computer on with Twitch, then gone to the bars to watch Boston play a few times.

#

It's a very different energy.

#

Plus, sitting at home with just a friend or two is not the same. Or if you're alone it's pretty lame after a while.

fading wasp
#

I heard about xQc's release and decided to check out his stream. First thing I see is him on the floor, chugging a gallon of water, with rotten food strewn all around him and donations constantly popping up on the screen. I think the Fuel made a good choice.

lethal plank
#

Yeah, xQc is more of a streamer than a pro player

echo vault
#

classic felix dude

balmy wolf
#

Yo I just realized that since xqc is not in owl anymore there will be less leaks as he was the most reliable source for what happens inside the orgs due to him not being able to shut the fuck up

#

And the many times he accidentally showed his discord convos

echo vault
#

idk slasher seems to do ok

onyx shore
#

other players will be on high alert now

#

one wrong word on the stream,and the witch hunt will start

hidden osprey
#

looks like most of the original EnVyUs roster is a rip

#

Cocco/Taimou supposedly going to be released

#

can't wait to see JAKE banned then zaryalol

molten skiff
#

taimou going to be released?

onyx shore
#

releasing/selling

lethal plank
#

Not selling but trading. He's not a slave

onyx shore
#

who said about slavery?

#

buying and selling players is everyday stuff on sports

lethal plank
#

I like to make myself think of it as trading instead of buying or selling. I don't want to think about legal slaves

onyx shore
#

direct your complain to slahser

pearl stratus
#

Slasher. Making Donald Trump look like a reliable source of information since OWL began.

lethal plank
#

These comments are funny. Also I wish they would play seagull more.

pearl stratus
#

He's migrating to a new role, so he's just been in scrim mode I think

onyx shore
#

yeah,there's no point for seagull to play on dps,other alternatives are better

pearl stratus
#

He was, way back in the days, an off tank. So we'll see if he can recover any of it.

#

I know his Zarya isn't bad, but its the D'va thats the proving grounds since he needs to be better than Mickie.

onyx shore
#

is this what they call NRG curse?

pearl stratus
#

Eh its not confusing that a team that refused to modernize with the meta has trouble succeeding in it.

#

I'd say its more the moneyball curse.

#

Money can buy you talent, can't buy you teamwork all the time.

lethal plank
#

Sigh. It sucks being a fuel fan right now

onyx shore
#

you can always change team

#

maybe the owner thinks that the current roster wont succeed

lethal plank
#

The owner needs to fire KyKy

onyx shore
#

kinda agreed

#

in soccer,after streak of bad results,they fire the coach first,not releasing the players first

#

maybe the owner wants to go full korean

lethal plank
#

I hope not.

#

Nothing against Koreans but I like diversity

onyx shore
#

i prefer great matches

#

and result

#

diversity dont mean shit if your team keeps losing

lethal plank
#

Wonderful matches+ diversity would be really nice. Sadly it's hard finding that in esports

hidden osprey
#

yeah, I'm surprised KyKy hasn't gotten more flack

onyx shore
#

he has,at least from reddit

hidden osprey
#

but "we DoNt KnOw WhAt GoES oN BeHInD ThE ScEnEs"

lethal plank
#

Maybe he's sucking <user has been banned for this post>

hidden osprey
#

wat

balmy wolf
#

So uh I just watched the video of Dante asking of xqc joined them yet...

onyx shore
#

i think xqc said

balmy wolf
#

If it is a jebait it's a pretty funny wone

onyx shore
#

that your application needs to be approved by the league

#

i dont think blizzard would approve

hidden osprey
#

someone in blizzard wanted him out

lethal plank
#

Yeah even if xQc joins the shock, I'm sure his antics won't stop

onyx shore
#

do you think xqc gonna starts streaming when the league is live?

#

just to spite on them

hidden osprey
#

no doubt

#

he's not contractually bound anymore

lethal plank
#

Why not, he doesn't have anything to do with owl now

onyx shore
#

can he streams his reaction watching owl matches?

#

like live

lethal plank
#

Good question..

onyx shore
#

i mean,if he's showing the match on his stream,that would warrant dmca takedown

hidden osprey
#

he can't do that no

#

that would be a rebroadcast

#

but he can do the reactions

#

he used to cast the games in his discord

lucid skiff
#

NYExcelsior or SeoulDynasty winning?

onyx shore
#

i think nyxl can win

#

probably 3-2

rapid tiger
#

Always keen for feedback if you have any 😃

viral bronze
#

TriHard 7

fading wasp
#

@lethal plank they're selling the contract to the other team, not the person

worldly acorn
#

I have Dynasty winning 3-2 actually against NYXL

#

if they don't split the team this week and field their A-team on both matches both of this weeks games will be close imo

#

as a fan I'm hopeful for two wins, but more realistically I bet we'll win one and lose one

spring lintel
#

Contenders Australia is so weak

#

They look like masters

sullen berry
#

but... wait AU Contenders exists?

#

from open divisions and then regional contenders I see\

serene tendon
#

watching the spitfire v gladiators match

#

fucking asher is a god with these pulse bombs

silk linden
#

Can Linkzr play Tracer?

#

I mean obviously he could, but I wonder if Houston would even consider it

balmy wolf
#

to a point

#

but I think clockwork would be better if he had play time

silk linden
balmy wolf
#

well stats are pretty against clockwork since he only play 2cp this xstage

silk linden
#

You might still be right, but I'm just spitballing here

#

Also I don't see why only playing 2cp would skewer his stats so much

balmy wolf
#

this is just me looking back at him being a god in tf2 that is well known for scout

silk linden
#

It's not like those maps are particularly unfavorable to tracer

balmy wolf
#

its not that its just I think tracer would be better being measured in koth

silk linden
#

Sure I would love for CW to succeed too, I loved his scout play, but I'm just looking at facts here

balmy wolf
#

and overall if he only plays for one map, and if they lose the map chances are he will have worse stats

#

but I still think that he is mid or upper mid tier

silk linden
#

Anyway yeah if we only looked at Tracer stats for every tracer main only for 2cp then he maybe wouldn't be dead last, but still

#

It's more about the fact that Jake is second to last as well

#

And this is a problem for Houston

balmy wolf
#

hopefully their secret weapon mendo will show up since he was also known as a tracer player

silk linden
#

That's what everyone keeps saying

balmy wolf
#

I mean he still has wisdom teeth problems rn making him not able to scrim/play

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

onyx shore
#

dynasty have a chance of winning unless they got drunk and proceed to field gido and xepher against nyxl

finite cedar
#

I quite like the position of X in the Watchpoint debate about Jack. Yes Jack is bad on Tracer, but he's still OWL calibre.

onyx shore
#

well,bad compared to?

#

SBB / Birdring are clearly better

#

logix maybe a little bit better

fresh arrow
#

jake is a decent tracer but not OWL level

red anvil
#

He's sorta been forced on to it, due to clockwork not preforming - and mendo is probably not preforming in scrims either

silk linden
#

I feel like he's forced into it by him being a team leader as the same time as tracer being a must for every team

#

That's why I wondered if linkzr could play her

red anvil
#

Thing is, Linkzr is too good not to play flex

silk linden
#

Who knows, maybe he'd be just as impactful on tracer

#

After all it's the alternative to having a god flex + a tracer that feeds

#

Might as well have a solid flex + a solid tracer

red anvil
#

From what i've seen on his tracer its not much better then Jakes

#

He would need a lot more practice on it

silk linden
#

All right

#

Do you think Houston would be against picking up Korean players? They're one of the few teams without one

red anvil
#

its hard to say really, on one side you got korean talent like Nenne and Stitch, where as Stitch Flame tried to pick up before
On the other hand you still have Davin which could be close to as impactful, and you already have a connection and synergy with linkzr and no need for a translator

#

So if they were to pick up a good tracer player, which i'm not actually not sure it will happen, i would go with Davin rather then koreans

neat wedge
#

was anybody else not aware that Saebolbye is married?

#

i thought he was like 17 but hes actually 22 wadduhek

torpid charm
#

he's so public about his wife so I feel like everyone knew

#

him pulling the picture of her outta his pocket putting it on the monitor before the game took the cake for me, he loves her so much

deft valley
#

ayyyy welcome to the club dallas

silk linden
#

Fuckin hell dallas

#

I feel bad for them

deft valley
#

I don't it's hilarious

slim summit
#

xQc released, Cocco and Taimou getting booted, OGE suspended for boosting

deft valley
#

"best Western team, can take down the koreans"

slim summit
#

they went from having 4 main tanks to having none zaryalol

silk linden
#

Seagull main tank

magic zinc
#

Man... they might actually have to play Coco now

#

Truly Kyky's darkest timeline

silk linden
#

I'll be surprised if they win one match in the remainder of stage 2

#

If things stay like this, they might legit be worse than Shanghai come stage 3

slim summit
#

Shanghai's on the way up, Fuel is on the way down

#

Remember when we all felt bad for Effect because he was struggling in early stage 1 with a team that hadn't quite come together?

#

Imagine how the poor guy must feel now

#

I like to imagine he felt some moment of relief when he found out they were bringing on OGE to replace xQc

balmy wolf
#

Philadhelphia for the win

#

Go shadowburn

torpid charm
blazing parrot
#

📞4Head Hello, SoWhat 📞4Head Dallas Fuel here📞 4Head Do you still want to play for us📞4Head

magic zinc
#

Oh rip the reddit post got removed it seems

limber pine
#

not surprising

warped axle
torpid charm
#

PhiliFusion Philly 4ever

deft valley
#

#PhillyUntilTheresASeattleTeam

#

but probably even then

warped axle
#

🦅 = 🥇 PhiliFusion = 🥇

balmy wolf
deft valley
#

do a lot of teams do outreach stuff in their "designated" cities? Fusion did a thing in Philly where they invited the best player in an area tournament to their Uni team

#

but I dunno if others do something similar

torpid charm
#

the way it works is that people pitch that team in that city. Fusion is owned by Comcast Specator which is the same organization who owns the Flyers

autumn gale
#

what do u think about xqc release from dallas

deft valley
#

yeah I know the franchise structure lmao

#

I'm saying that they play in LA and don't really have to do much with their cities yet except for owners

torpid charm
#

OH WAIT, nvm I understand your question now

deft valley
#

Fusion is making actual ties to Philly with Hometown Heroes

torpid charm
#

can't read, am sorry

deft valley
#

I'm wondering if others are doing the same

torpid charm
#

uuuuuh, maybe. it would make sense to and be cool

vague urchin
#

xQc just resigned from OWL

autumn gale
#

whaaaaatttt?

deft valley
#

yeah welcome to yesterday

vague urchin
#

i'd actually prefer xQc leaving the league

autumn gale
#

which team did e join

vague urchin
#

uh

#

he left the OWL

#

completely

autumn gale
#

im stupid bye

vague urchin
#

you're not

#

i usually ask stupid questions aswell

autumn gale
#

lulu

vague urchin
#

he got fined 6,000$ in total

#

and suspended for both stage 1 and 2

deft valley
#

5k, and the suspensions weren't full stage

#

they were 4 games both

vague urchin
#

huh

deft valley
#

The team benched him for stage 1

vague urchin
#

he doesn't seem like a nice guy

paper crag
#

Effect main tank incoming

#

Dallas fuel setting default strat to 4 tanks

torpid charm
#

I'm loving this OWL drama

pearl stratus
#

I more love it because its not the league.

#

It's just one team.

#

It's like that drunk aunt who's 45, single, and doesn't have her life together at the holidays. She's just a mess of a person.

#

Then there's this whole Monte/xQc lunch thing - which is funny. Monte upset about being stood up for lunch.

glacial sleet
#

SHANGHAI REVERSE SWEEP

river slate
#

GET THE JUICE

#

GIMME GIMME

silk linden
#

guys I made a shitty meme

cerulean plume
scarlet spear
#

how is houston kenobi ?

silk linden
#

it's the other team that's carrying the battle against korean domination

#

and they're texan brothers

whole narwhal
#

what would happen to teams in OWC that become OWL-qualified? Do they have to change their team names?

deft valley
#

They don't become OWL-qualified

#

There's no pro/rel, it's like minor leagues rather than a lower division

silk linden
#

OWC is just a place to showcase players not in OWL and raid the teams

#

hell if a team does too good early on they risk getting raided by the OWL and not making it to the final phase

whole narwhal
#

What is raiding?

silk linden
#

in this case I mean picking up their best players

#

like mongols raiding and pillaging through a village

whole narwhal
#

I know what the dictionary definition is. I was about to think raiding in this context meant having to fight an OWL team, lol

#

So OWC teams don’t actually move up into OWL, but the players do (sometimes)

magic zinc
#

Yeah

#

I wish there was more to it but thats really it

jagged crater
#

omg RIP XQC

#

late to the news

#

but fuck man

#

saw it a mile away but when it finally happens, it sunk in

silk linden
#

rip his esport dream, but he's gonna be more successful as a streamer anyway

whole narwhal
#

One day he’ll have to get a job though

#

You can’t live off streaming forever

silk linden
#

nor can you off esports

balmy wolf
#

protip: don't listen to twitch chat

torpid charm
#

"I'm literally a walking Twitch chat"

jagged crater
#

the bright side is now that xqc is free, he can meme all he wants

#

within twitch rules at least

#

which is a lot more lenient than OWL rules

#

he'll be more happy because of it

balmy wolf
#

Penis

silk linden
#

this was probably necessary, but it's probably worse for dallas than for xqc

jagged crater
#

he can prob just shout penis penis penis on stream and still maintain 5k viewers

balmy wolf
tight vault
vestal mortar
tight vault
silk linden
#

a moment of silence for iddqd

#

🕯

magic zinc
#

For a split second I thought it was gonna be xQc and my heart skipped a beat

indigo barn
#

when xqc joins shanghai dragons

#

10/10

tight vault
#

shanghai have signed xQc

magic zinc
#

Really excited for Architect

indigo barn
#

oh man game of the season tomorrow

#

boston uprising vs dallas fuel baby

magic zinc
#

All about Saturday for me tbh

#

Seoul v London

#

At EU times no less!

tight vault
#

whens floridas next match

hybrid helm
#

What do you guys think about the rumors that Dallas wants to release Taimou and cocco?

indigo barn
#

nah man the REAL game on saturday is Philadelphia Fusion vs Dallas Fuel

hybrid helm
#

@magic zinc EU times ftw!

magic zinc
#

Sounds incredibly harsh to me and I think that would only happen if they already have a replacement lined up

hybrid helm
#

They might pick Koreans

magic zinc
#

Especially now that OGE is in some trouble too

indigo barn
#

why is shanghai at the bottom one may ask?

#

they have 0 koreans

hybrid helm
#

I’m excited for Seoul vs NYXL (Seoul fan)

indigo barn
#

seoul is out for blood

#

they better not half-ass it this time

#

wasn't the score 3-1 last time

#

nvm it was 3-2

#

this time it'll be 4-0 ez clap

hybrid helm
#

Yea no more mercy meta to carry teams like Houston

#

Yea they better go full main roster

indigo barn
#

no i meant nyxl 4-0 seoul

tight vault
#

florida is gonna 4-0 every team they face from now on

hybrid helm
#

Nah no way

indigo barn
#

i'll bet you my balls nyxl 4-0's seoul

hybrid helm
#

Dude Seoul is looking goood now

indigo barn
#

and nyxl is looking even better

tight vault
#

florida is gon 4-0 nyxl

hybrid helm
#

NYXL look about the same as stage 1

indigo barn
#

the only team that could take down nyxl is florida buddy

#

or maybe shanghai

hybrid helm
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And weak Seoul of stage 1 gave them a hard match

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Looool haha

indigo barn
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so if they lose a game, they are "weak seoul"

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if they win a game, they are "strong seoul"

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ok

hybrid helm
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No

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Stage 1 = weak Seoul

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Stage 2 at least after first week = strong Seoul

indigo barn
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they look strong because they only went up against the bottom half teams in standings

tight vault
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the only team shanghai can win against is dallas

indigo barn
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now they go up against nyxl, london, houston, and FLORIDA and you will call them "weak seoul" again

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Florida will wipe the freakin floor with seoul

tight vault
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oh fuck philly vs shanghai

indigo barn
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oh shit

hybrid helm
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Nope the way they play. They look strong without mercy meta

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Philly is not a weak team

indigo barn
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philly is a highly inconsistent team

tight vault
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shanghai isn't either 😉

indigo barn
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even more inconsistent than valiant

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valiant will win 3-0 vs seoul

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but lose 0-4 to some blue and yellow bois??

hybrid helm
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Valiants won Seoul in mercy meta

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It looked like Seoul were just waiting for mercy nerf maybe practicing non-mercy comps

indigo barn
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and then they 4-0 valiant in non-mercy meta, i get it

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nyxl still crushes seoul tomorrow

jagged crater
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iddqd and mendo should start a new team soon

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ripperios

silk linden
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with numlocked and grimreality

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joemeister on support

indigo barn
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benchwarmers unite

jagged crater
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avast joemeister snow for support

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numlock main tank

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grim iddqd mendo dps

silk linden
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seagull off tank?

indigo barn
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ew no

hybrid helm
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@indigo barn we will see. I call a close match

indigo barn
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@hybrid helm i call 4-0 for nyxl

jagged crater
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not many other options

indigo barn
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may the best team win

jagged crater
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but seagull why not

indigo barn
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seagull should go back to streaming with xqc

jagged crater
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seagull rarely streams nowadays

tight vault
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seagull should become a literal bird

jagged crater
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he's more dedicated to pro scene than xqc

indigo barn
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my seagull didn't sprout his wings

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i guess my seagull didn't fly

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he just fell with style

jagged crater
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seagull still has a place as a coach at least

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maybe hopefully

hybrid helm
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Dallas started as Dallas memers and now they get rid of them lol

hidden osprey
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It's gonna become an all Korean team eventually

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sad times

jagged crater
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if that OGE thing is tru, ripppppppp

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dallas cant catch a break xD

hidden osprey
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yep, as a Fuel fan I'm not mad, just really disappointed

jagged crater
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too much fuel to fuel a fire

indigo barn
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Dallas was so freakin hyped at the start of stage 1 now all the people that they were hyped for are gone

hidden osprey
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exactly

jagged crater
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dallas had popular players that's why

hidden osprey
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plus Fuel had some of the best personalities in the league

indigo barn
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well i mean theres effect but

jagged crater
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xqc and seagull 2 huge streamers

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now wont even get play at all

indigo barn
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signs akm and rascal to save the team

jagged crater
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even OG envy might not get play soon

hidden osprey
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aKm, considered one of the better western DPS players too

jagged crater
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not much for taimou to fit in

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no cocco

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only chips and harry left

hidden osprey
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It's crazy to think Taimou went off from popping off heads to feeding as Winston as a main tank

indigo barn
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dallas still got their support tho.... but thats pretty much it

hidden osprey
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Cocco is apparently retiring

jagged crater
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:

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:[

whole narwhal
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Where all da Europeans at
Are they all away playing CS:GO?

indigo barn
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cocco needs to feed his family

jagged crater
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he's still getting salary as an OWL player, even if he's benched

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plenty of europeans

indigo barn
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SBB's gonna have enough dough to feed his family for sure

hidden osprey
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he's probably used for internal scrims

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I'm jealous of SBB

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he's so wholesome ;-;

jagged crater
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cute too

indigo barn
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nyxl donates all $1m to SBB if his wife gets pregnant

jagged crater
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xD

hidden osprey
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doesn't SBB still have to do time in the military?

indigo barn
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nyxl season champions btw, florida 2nd place calling it rn

hybrid helm
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Dallas releases xQc and might release Taimou and cocco now that’s tanks. That and their previous signings of dps players and their coaches’ stupid meme strats I think they might be going for a 6 dps comp coz who wants to play tank and support. Silver strats ftw

warped axle
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So theyre SFS now

jagged crater
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release the whole team

tight vault
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dallas should sign me

jagged crater
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add some randos fro matchmaking

oak schooner
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xqc for outlaws tracer plz

hidden osprey
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true that

oak schooner
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already better than jake and clockwork

magic zinc
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OGE being signed but allegidly in trouble for boosting uh oh

hidden osprey
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Clockwork's stats are a bit skewed because he's only played on 2CP

indigo barn
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dallas fuel 100% not a mess at all

tight vault
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i get 2% accuracy with hanzo every match

hidden osprey
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but Jake, holy shit, that's awful

whole narwhal
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IDK about OWL but a lot of OWC players got booted for boosting

warped axle
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Do you guys think SFS is going to drop Danteh when Sinatraa is 18

hybrid helm
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@vital basinE#2056 yea I think J LUL KE killed himself more than enemies using pulse bomb

warped axle
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And do you think they would trade Danteh to Houston

hidden osprey
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I don't think they will na

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He'll probably be subbed in and out depending on maps and stuff

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It's obvious Danteh's improved a lot

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I guess he finally found the Fortune V book from Minecraft

warped axle
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Danteh has one of the best Sombras tbh

jagged crater
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it would be awkward if sinatraa mr 150k turns out to be underwhelming

warped axle
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Was Danteh a MC streamer or something?

jagged crater
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performing even worse than danteh

tight vault
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oh lord shanghai are gon get squashed this week

hidden osprey
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Danteh used to be a pro Minecrafter

jagged crater
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i mean danteh's been doing good on tracer too

hidden osprey
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that's why you always see the diamond memes for him

warped axle
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Danteh was a big reason SFS beat Dallas

jagged crater
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how do you pro minecraft

warped axle
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And because Dallas sucks

whole narwhal
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Was that a joke? How do you pro minecraft. Minecraft Hunger Games?

hidden osprey
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you tell me

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PvP I guess

whole narwhal
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Amass the strongest faction?

hybrid helm
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I think sinatraa is overrated but idk

tight vault
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did uh anyone see shanghais matches their playing this week

indigo barn
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overwatch is minecraft 2.0

jagged crater
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i mean we havent seen sinatraa in a while so iunno

warped axle
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I've never seen him play

whole narwhal
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Never heard of Sinatraa til today haha

indigo barn
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he looks like a good trace in his streams

jagged crater
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he's a good ladder tracer, he was good on selfless 8+ months ago

indigo barn
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but of course streamers always transfer nicely into pro esports

hybrid helm
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I wish dafran played

indigo barn
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um ok

hybrid helm
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He seems good

indigo barn
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good at, streaming

hybrid helm
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No no his tracer mechanics

jagged crater
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dafran doesnt want to play pro, he prefers streaming

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but who knows he MIGHT go back

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not every player can adjust

hybrid helm
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Yea can’t blame him you tho with all the drama in OverReactLeague

hidden osprey
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Interview from yesterday

hybrid helm
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Can’t blame him tho *

jagged crater
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I'd like to think streaming is infinitely easier than going pro

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less stress for starters

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less rules to abide by

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that's why xqc couldnt do it

hidden osprey
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true

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he even said on stream "I don't have the stress anymore"

hybrid helm
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Yea also big streamers earn more and control their career independently so it’s even more secure

jagged crater
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and potentially even more money

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if you go big

indigo barn
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you can just blame your team when you're doing bad

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can't really do that in esports

jagged crater
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which xqc raking in 5k+ viewers, should

hidden osprey
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it's crazier when you think that xqc doesn't even have any sponsors